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Speaker 4 (00:36):
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Close enough? I think you know, I thought it was
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But he's he's here and Ryan, We're ready to go.
It's a big day. You got, We've got we have
to talk about. UK athletics made its biggest uh change
in what it is ever yesterday in my opinion, like
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like in terms of and I don't think it's gonna
have as massive an effect, but it is complete. I
think UK changed the way most colleges are going to
do athletics yesterday, and we have to talk about it.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Yeah, that day kind of set the pace now for
other schools to follow, right, they're kind of on there.
That's going to be the leader in that, Yeah, potentially.
But we're gonna get to that.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
But we have to start with the draft because I
find Drew the draft to be one of the more
entertaining things that I has nothing to do with football.
I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't ever know
any of these people like they can you know they
I start following the draft about a week before, and
then I learned things that are apparently very important, and
then I have strong opinions. So let me just go
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through a couple of things. First of all, I'll give
you an example of how I have a strong opinion
that I had no opinion about. A few days ago,
I had zero opinion about Will Johnson of LSU's arm length. Okay,
never thought. I didn't even know who the kid was.
I had no opinion about. And then I started listening
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to draft podcast and they kept saying, you know the
problem with Will Johnson there at number four for the Patriots.
His arms are really short, and his last name is
Campbell and they are so close. Then I will Campbell,
same thing. They still learn it still, but I was
focused on his arms. They just kept saying, there's no
way a guy can play left tackle in the NFL
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with arms that short. And I thought, well, why would
that be a big deal? And then I was like, well,
you know, you got a block and get him out.
So I decided when he was about to get picked,
I'm sitting there watching. I'm like, I'm watching for his arm. Yes,
there's no way his arms are as short as they
say they are, right, because they keep How short can
the man's arms be little t rex arms? Yeah? So
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he gets up. He has on a suit that respectfully,
white people should not wear that color. You should not
wear green. I wear green to the oaks sometimes as
a joke. Yes, but you should not wear a pin
striped green suit as a pale white guy. But he did.
He's having his moments. But when he gets up, all right, true,
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he gets up and he stands up, and I look,
and he's got whoop be arms. He's got woo be arms.
They barely get to his waist. So, like, right now,
wherever you are, if you're not driving, you can stand up,
put your arms down. You stand up there. You see,
you are supposed to have your arms like halfway down
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your pocket. Okay, okay, maybe a little towards the bottom
of your pocket. Yeah, assuming you're wearing your pants at
the right place. All right, So I have very long arms.
I go to the bottom of my pocket, go yesterday
and watch will Johnson his barely come to his pocket.
And I just decided, right then, bust bust with his
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will Be arms. They're not gonna work. Had no opinion
on the guy's arms until yesterday strong opinion after the
hardest part of the night was Roger Dale shaking his hand.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
I didn't think Will could even get his arm out
there to shake Roger's hand. I thought he was gonna
wear like the Secret Service fake arms in his suit
to you know, kind of extend those a little bit.
He thought he wasn't even gonna be able to reach you.
Goodell had to go ninety nine and Will just had
to go one for that hand.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So that's what I love about the draft. You just
have things that you never cared about that then you
decide to care. So I'm gonna go over. I went
through some notes. Are you ready ready? I thought it
was really dorky for Roger to get Goodell to come
out on that bicycle, all right. I know in Green
Bay people ride bikes, but he looks so awkward. Yes
it is, and it's actually very hard Drew to ride
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a bike slowly, and you know, he had to ride
a bike slowly. It's actually hard to do that because
you have to keep your balance.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
And I thought that was end at that age, Shannon,
you rode the Packers bike?
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Yeah? Are you a former Packers bike rider? I am?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
So did you like that he came out in the
in the bike.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I thought it was a cool nod to the Packers.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Okay, yeah, then they picked cam Ward. There's never been
a first pick Ryan, They've talked about less picked. And
then there was a trade and they were like, all right,
well the number one guy's quarterback next yep. So like
he was gone, Like, there's never been a number one
overall pick that was talked about less than cam Woard.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yeah, because you know all week they were talking about
he was probably gonna be the number one pick. So
I wasn't a surprise, but that trade was a little
bit of a surprise. So that's why they weren't to emphasize.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Travis Hunter goes number two. I just remember my number
one thing was is he still dating his girlfriend? Because
you remember that was a big thing on TikTok for
a His girlfriend would like yell at him, you know,
do you remember that she'd like come out on the
field and be like, stand up straight, sit down, don't
take pictures with her, Yeah, stop taking pictures. But she
was there so she's made it to the draft. Good
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for her getting married next month. There you go. Would
you like his pink suit?
Speaker 6 (06:18):
You know it was fine. I really like Travis Hunter.
I thought the Jags might have given up way too
much for him, but he just seems like a fun
guy that loved being there. When he's running through the tunnel,
bouncing off the walls, I was.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Poor Liam Cohen, Like all people do is make fun
of me, Like the moment they make that trade, everybody's
just posting that dude, like, you know, Shanna, do you
still have that drop?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Ever saved it?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Oh? Yeah, I should have it? So terrible. That's never
gonna leave him.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
It's never gonna him forever.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Gonna have that forever, isn't he? Yeah? I mean that's
all the internet was.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
I mean really, when I just see him, just a
photo of him in a JAG's outfit, I hear it
in my head.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
That's that's just associated with him, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I do have it here, it is, dude.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I mean, like it's gonna that's gonna stay with him forever,
because as soon as they show him, that's all anybody
knows about him outside of Kentucky.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
You know, we kind of thought he was a little
bit of a dork anyway, that emphasized he is king
of the dorks.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Uh, there was a baby that threw up. Did you
see that?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
They thought about you immediately, like that would have loved
to have been right there next to this.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Exactly what I was talking about when I played that
Judy Jimstone clip. Baby babies have bacteria. Babies are that
they're not classy. And so here it is night and
the baby just throws up. I know it's spit up,
but whatever, it's still gross. Just throws up on everybody.
Now to be fair to the baby, the mother was
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jumping up and down, jumping up and down, and that
baby was asleep, and all of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
It was like shaking that baby all over the place.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
There was a lot of baby shaking going on.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
It felt like there's always a secondary character at the draft,
you know, is Will Loves's girlfriend. A few it was
always someone that wasn't supposed to be the star and
I'm the star. And last night it was that baby
that now needs to be in concussion protocols for mom
just banging its head around.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Another thing I noticed for the people that were not
at the draft, it feels like the amount of people
getting invited into the rooms keeps growing, like there are
fifty to sixty people now in each room. I was
thinking if it were me, I don't wouldn't have this
many people. I think I would have a very small group.
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I don't even know if I know sixty people that
I would want to go. Would you have a big
group in yours.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
If I was a chance to be a first round
draft pick, I would have the whole city of Lexington
probably join me.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I actually believe that, yes, I wouldn't want all those
people in my house. Plus you're waiting and they're looking
at you like, oh, let's go happen here in a minute.
I just I don't think I would enjoy that.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
I think I would have a pretty big party if
I were going to the green Room, and it'd be
hard to get all those people to want to travel
to Green Bay. But other than that, I think i'd
like to have my squad there.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Would you want to be at the draft or would
you want to be at your house? Because it looked
like there were more people at their house than usually
are amongst the top picks a leen house.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Unless I was for sure tops with just the fear
of being one of the guys that sits there, cause
you get talked about forever as a even though you're
not a bust, you're considered one because you didn't get picked.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
On night one, Shannon Are, the Bears picked a guy
and he was a tight end, and he was the
second ranked tight end even though the first ranked tight
end was on the board. So I thought I was going.
I was a little disappointed. And then they showed his
house and he had two massive elk Did you see that? Yeah,
he had two just massive elk.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
You think he mounted those himself.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I don't know, but they think. I don't really know
elk size. I'm not an elk expert, but it felt
like to me those were really big elk, And so
I thought, Okay, I think I like this guy. Now
I think I need my tight end to have two
really big.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Elk enough though you don't really need two.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I need to because he's a tight end. That means
he can play on the left and the right side.
Big help, And so then I felt better about our pick.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Well, you want your tight end to be a little nasty,
So if he's out there hunting and maybe cleaning himself.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Yeah, male, hope he cleaned himself, clean the elk.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
You mean clean the elk? Yeah, I mean I think
for his teammates, they need to clean. He went on
a Vader situation ship that's right. Yeah, So I do
hope he cleans himself.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I've wondered, including him, if if these guys like stage
a house, like sometimes if you're doing a Netflix interview,
they take you to Airbnb so it looks nicer. I
wonder if they're like, all right, let's rent some elk
for the night, throw them on the wall. Let's really
get this place looking nice for draft night.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
So then another thing I noticed, It felt like this
year there were a lot more family members who had
airbrushed T shirts. Like of that, there was the family
where the kid had an airbrush T shirt of his parents,
and the parent had an airbrush T shirt of the kid.
I thought you could only get that done at gatlin Burg.
But some of these looked really nice, like really nice
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airbrush T shirts. Do you like that trend?
Speaker 7 (10:59):
I I didn't know that was a trend until last night.
Last I saw one of them.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know why why that came from?
Why that started, but you know you're trying to it's
a fashion statement.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
You know, it's a weird fashion statement because I feel
like the only people I see besides the draft wearing
airbrush t shirts of their face are either people at
Walmart or some funerals that they didn't have the service
at the park and everyone wears a shirt. Those are
the only times I ever.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
High school spring break.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Yeah one, it might have said that spring break two
thousand and one on the Ring Break two thousand Okay.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Maxwell Harriston was one of the stars of the draft
because he was so nice. First of all, he got
picked by the Bills. That's great. He's gonna be on
a good team with Ray Davis Ray Davis, so that's cool.
But he was one of the stars of the draft
because of how nice he was. First of all, great jacket,
that was a great jacket. That blue jant was that
like peacock print. I was trying to figure out. I
don't know. I thought, whoever got him his jacket salute?
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Then he was just hugging everybody or right. It kind
of reminded me of you. Even though all these people
were getting picked ahead of him, he seemed genuinely happy
for everybody else. CBS Sports has this video this morning
of them playing like a very sort of emotional song
and just showing him hugging everybody, and then when it
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was his turn, they hugged him. I felt like Maxwell
Harriston was the feel good story of the nine.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
It was I thought it was. It was a great moment.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
And even after he got drafted, when Laura re Ltd
interviewed his family, everybody's family was the same way.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
They're all so nice, so nice.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
That's one of the things UK Football's got to do
a better job of allowing us to know these kids.
Because I had no idea that Maxwell Harriston was that
big a personality. He should have been on this show
like all the time, because he showed that in the
last few days.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Yeah, he was the star. I mean I saw several
tweets from people there a Lissa Laye, Kay Adams. They
were saying Max Harrison is the star of the draft.
I mean, the guys would get their hat, hug Max Harriston,
and then they'd chack the commissioner's hand.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
It was all part of the process and it's a
great lesson. Like he seemed genuinely happy for everyone else,
and then it worked out for him. He wasn't sitting
there going that should have been me. He was expressing
joy to everybody else. That was very cool.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
You know how much he means to the guys in
the UK locker room because you saw how they all
reacted when he yes video of memory. Yeah, jumping up
and down and celebrating alongside of him.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
And then probably the biggest story was that Shador Sanders
dropped out of the first round. Now, I said on
this show, if they don't have a camera live on him,
that's a problem. They did have a room, but no
one was in the room, right. Remember when they showed
the room, there was nobody in it. I was like, oh.
And then when they would go to the house, he
was never on screen. It was just Dion and a
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dude in one of those big hats. Who was that guy,
the Philly guy, Gilly he does a lot with barstool.
That was that? Who that was? That was the guy
with the big hat? Okay, well, I guess maybe he'll
be at the thing that we might see him next Monday,
But but they just they would never show him. That's
when I knew it was going to be a long
fall for him.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah, you kind of, you know, tip us off to
that if there's no live camera on the family and
him sitting on the couch. He knew he's probably not
gonna be one of the top picks. But I was
surprised he fell out of the first completely fell out
of the first round.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
When the Giants traded up to get a quarterback, I thought, well,
there he is, he's going to New York. There was
a lot pre draft about him going to New York
and then they took Jackson Dart. That had to have
just been a knife in the heart. Jackson Dart, by
the way, guaranteed bust. Absolutely guarantee every year. I give
you my four star Lock of the Year bust. Anthony
Richardson was that two years ago. Jackson Dark guaranteed bust.
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There's no way that works out, just mark it down.
That made it much worse for him. And there was
one moment where ESPN went to his house and they
quickly cut it because they were watching the NFL network.
Did you see that it had the NFL network guy
on the screen and ESPN like cut right back out.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Huh Yeah. And there were so many feeds you could watch.
There was like the Emotional Feed, which was on ABC
that was like where they would tell you everybody and
that their dog had died and all that, And I
watched the Football Feed, which is es be in H
and mel Kuiper. Everyone needs one person in life as
happy as who loves them as much as mel Kuiper
loves Shador Sanders. When Jackson Dark got picked again, he
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didn't even talk about Jackson Dart. He just talked about
how Shadur Sanders was better. And I was like, I
think Jackson Dart's gonna be a bust, but at least
give the guys. Dude. He didn't even like all he
did was talking. You would think that he was married
to Shuder Sanders' mom.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
It was like after every pick and go to Kiper,
He's like, well, Sanders is still on the board. For
the next day, He's like, what about the guy that
just got drafted?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Do you any he's going down with the Sanders ship.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Yeah, we said that for the show Shadeers. He was
going down at Shader Sanders hill Man. He was gonna
hang with him the whole time, and you know, doesn't
make him lose a little credibility because that was his
number one court.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
We won't know until a few years from that, right, Like,
I mean, he did this same thing with Aaron Rodgers
where he was like, why are they letting Aaron Rodgers slip?
And that ended up Aaron Rodgers was was good. Now
He's also did it with like Blaine Gabbert, who ended
up terrible. So you never really know.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
I thought you were gonna lead with clay Man. That
was like a direct shot you where he pulled out
the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I mean he the combination of Trump and the bear suck.
Clay Matthews. He's low on my list. But you know what,
any time I see a professional football player with the ponytail,
I'm just assuming he's gonna say something about Trump. It's
it's all. It's a Bosa or it's aj Horn or
whatever his name is, or it's Matthews, like they all,
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they all do it.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
I liked, I'm not really caring about that rivalry. To
be on that stage and pull out the bear suck.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
That was nice. That was I have a question for
you about that. Who is it that goes to this event?
I need to have that conversation with you because I
think it has to be miserable, but we'll talk about that.
Let's take a break. We'll be right back. We're here
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Speaker 4 (17:02):
So thank you much for that. One person writes on
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two five four, Matt, one of the things that fascinates
me is how many jerseys must be backstage. They have
to have a jersey for every team, for every player.
Interesting you say that. I've thought about that for years.
I've always thought I'd love to get the jersey that
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they don't use of a player. So I'd love to
have like a Patrick Mahomes Bears jersey, because we considered
picking him, passed him over and then he went to
Kansas City. That'd be a cool collectible. That's not how
they do it. Yeah, I saw the video. Have you
seen this in the citiot. They have you saw it.
It was on it was on social media yesterday. They
have five jerseys of each team that are blank on
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the name. When the pick is in, you know how,
the thing will say pick is in and then there's
a long delay. Yeah. The reason is a delay is
they're making their jersey. They take that, they see it,
they get it, they give it. They have a press
in the back and they have all the names and
they take it and quickly press the name onto the jersey.
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That's that little delay from when they say the pick
is in and when they announce it they quickly. It
takes like ninety seconds they make the jersey and then
they have it right there. So there's act. They're literally
doing it backstage. Isn't that kind of interesting?
Speaker 7 (18:21):
It's kind of old school, but it's awesome that they
do it that way.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah. I like it. And they have to have the
name of every player in every team's font just in cases.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
So I remember the NFL COVID draft. Jedrick willis from
here in Lexington. He got sent a hat of every
single team.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
They do that with the hat. Yeah, so with the jersey.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Yeah, I was thinking as we watched that he has
to do it so quickly. There's a lot of pressure.
You gotta get that straight. I make sure the name
is right. But his neat just sell just ready to
go to Jersey.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
All right, Why would anyone Shannon go to this thing? Okay,
let me explain what is party? But you're just standing
there in a parking Okay. So when we watch it
on TV, we get to see all the production. The
guys talk about it, they show highlights. When they're just
standing there, they don't show anything. It's just Roger Goodell
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comes out. He tries to be cool with his stupid
bro hugs and all that, and then that's it. And
then for ten minutes you're just standing there. Do you
think that would be fun? Like? Would you want to
go to the NFL Draft?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I would not go to the NFL drafts. I didn't
go when it was in Nashville. But y'all, I'm with
you on this. It's always fascinating me. These people. They
dress up and like the Baltimore Ravens gear and everything,
and then they announced the Ravens draft Mario O.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Maitland and they go crazy and they have no idea
who they.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Just draft and it's not just people like from Wisconsin,
this people from all over the world.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
There were two hundred thousand people, massive crowd. I don't
I don't get it. I don't get and I especially
don't get the people that are going like tonight and
the next time, cause I know you don't know who
those people are, Like, why are you going? I'm your huckleberry.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
I had a group we considered going this year when
the Titans got the number one pick, And if not
for Romeo and Juliet, I might have been there last night.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
So if you had gone, what would you have done?
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Partied like Shannon so you could party here. But it's
the draft. My team's got the number one pick.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I don't mind.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Like I said, they picked cam you don't like standing around.
I don't mind standing around and hanging out.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
So they picked cam Ward.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Then what are you doing the rescue partyingoo other picks,
hang out with people, check out, check out the scene
in Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
So you would go? Yeah, I actually we considered it.
We had about four of us that we're gonna go. See.
I would go to the NBA Draft because you're sitting down, Yes,
you're indoors. Yes, seems like you can see everything. But
I looked at that big mass of humanity last night, Shannon,
and I was thinking that just looks.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Awful to me that that basically doubled the population of
green Bay.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, green Bay, it was like.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
One hundred thousand, you say, two hundred thousand was there,
so I can't imagine, like they probably didn't have enough
hotel rooms for everybody.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Of course, all the backyards, like where we went to Telgate,
that was pretty cool. I like seeing the scene around
there of people doing what they would do for a
normal pass.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
So when I went up there when we went to
that game, and then when I did the show for ESPN,
there's a house that's right there next to the stadium
that ESPN Milwaukee owns. That would I would go there.
You could, you could sit in the yard and watch,
like I would go there, But I don't think I
would go stand in that park.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
I'm kind with you.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
I would enjoy being at that house and just being
a part of it. But man, that they kept showing
those drone shots of that massive crowd of people that
was that was unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I'd really just go to boom own team probably being
a Titans fanly. I also like that they will find
in the in the lot. It'll be like the Arizona
Cardinals will be on the clock and there'll be a
camera with like six Arizona people and they're just looking
at the camera and there going. And then you go,
all right, did they go get those people and ask
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them to come here? Where did they find them? Because
they're always at the front, which means I think they
bring the people up and they go stand here. And
I was thinking last night, what would be the team
that would have the fewest people in that crowd? Oh,
the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
That's remember when they had the Zoom draft they couldn't
even get people on Zoom. The twenty twenty year they
had fans on that big uh they had like the
one Chargers woman. Remember, It's like they couldn't get more.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Than a very good point about the Chargers. I wondered,
did they shoot? Did they show fans for the Chargers?
I think you have to hire local actors for teams
like the Chargers, especially in Green bell I was gonna
say that Cardinals would have the fewest fans, but I
think you're right, Well, those are one A and one
B the Chargers because the people that were Chargers fans.
They moved so like, if you live in San Diego,
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do you even still like them anymore?
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Maybe if the draft's in a fun city. But at
Green Bay those had to have been paid actors.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Next year, you know where it is? Cleveland? Oh? Is
it really so? Get excited? I did like the one guy,
I think it was Travis Henry. They're like, what do
you think of being up here? And he was like,
there's nothing to do, I'm ready to leave. Well, there
you go. All right, we're gonna talk about the future
of how UK athletics is gonna do it, and the
phone will be right back to Chaos are TJ Smith?
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Here's Matt Jones.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Welcome back in Kentucky Sports Radio. Here at Chaos Bar
and Grill. Come on out and have lunch or see
us this weekend. We uh, you know, gonna have all
We'll have the draft on all weekend, all the various
NBA games. If you you your family's in town, are
there events in Lexington this weekend? Got the uh? I
think Avid Brothers tonight all the Avid Brothers.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Yeah, is Sheriff's bro Juliet Because I just saw Sheryl
Crow's tour bus go.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Through lexon this morning. Oh really, Scoop or scuttle Buth
do what legends?
Speaker 7 (23:42):
Opening Night, legends weekend.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
A lot of stuff. You could come to the bar
before or after, uh, any of those things. One person writes,
matt if you were in Europe and you saw the
NFL draft was there, I think you would go to
be part of the atmosphere, So why wouldn't you do
it in America? Okay, that's a fair point. But at
the same time, I watched the draft and I don't
think it feels like good atmosphere. Like the reason I
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wanted to go to the darts in soccer was it
looks like crazy atmosphere to me. Except for when the
packers were picking. It didn't look like a great atmosphere.
It looked like people just standing around.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I think it'll be something fun to maybe do for
an hour an hour?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Yeah, then, okay, that's fair. Let's quickly take a call.
Who's up first.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Let's go to Matthew.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Matthew, go ahead, Matthew.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Good morning, gentlemen, First time, longtime?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Who what's up.
Speaker 9 (24:34):
First?
Speaker 8 (24:34):
I would like to make a statement and say you're
welcome to the BBN. I work at Tyson Foods in
Clinton County, Kentucky. So I would like to imagine that
part of my contribution is to saving the university thirty
three million dollars.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Yes, well, you're to thank you to Arkansas for doing that.
What's your second thing?
Speaker 8 (24:54):
I would like to take a point from yesterday's show
about the NIL. It might be a unpopular opiece onion,
but I like to imagine about seventy five percent of
Kentucky fans are Kentucky fans primarily because of the basketball team. Yes,
and I believe that when it comes to NIL contributions
that they should divvy out and feed the program that
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has kept your school in relevancy.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Here's the problem with giving all the money to basketball,
which I did. Have a lot of people write me
yesterday and say we should give fifty percent or seventy
five percent to basketball. Here's a problem. As much as
Kentucky is a school where basketball has historically been not
only better, but the focus of the fan base, guess
where our money comes from, Sir, guess what funds the budget.
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Football Yep, So I mean football is what gets the revenue.
We are one of only like four basketball schools in
the country where basketball even makes a profit. But even
at this school where basketball makes a profit, football makes
a much larger profit. So if you just abandon the
thing that makes a profit, guess what's gonna happen. Your
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profit's gonna go down. And then once that profit goes down,
it's gonna be harder for you to pay that in
il money. And so all this get that, there's a
snowball effect. So if you just abandon football and like say,
well we just won't even try to be competitive, people
will stop going to the games, and then you have
a severe revenue problem.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
Well, sir, I understand that, And I'm not saying to
take away and just give all the money to basketball.
I was saying, take care of the program that keeps
you in national relevancy and then you know, focus on
the rest. I get that, you know, the football program
does give us more money, but I don't want to
go back to the Gillespie years whenever.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
You know, doing that, apparently we're spending more on nil
than any other basketball program. So I appreciate the call.
I don't think that. I don't think that's gonna be
a worry. All right, So let's talk about what happened
yesterday with you k cause this this is this is
very complicated, and I admit I can't say I have
one hundred percent grasp on it, but I think I
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have a decent grass. So what Kentucky has done basically
is they have moved UK Athletics, the entity of UK
Athletics into a private holding company. It is basically now
a private LLC. It is still run by and reports
to the university, but instead of UK Athletics being basically
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like the UK School of Science, it is now a
holding company outside of the university that the university owns
but is not a part of the university. They have
this same model already for UK healthcare when it comes
to hospitals. You know, they bought a couple of hospitals
in eastern Kentucky and they buy Land et cetera. So
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UK Athletics for all intents and purposes, and that is
now a private LLC holding company, private though, but it's
still owned by the university. Mitch Barnhardt, Mark Pope, Mark stoops.
They are now employees of this LLC. They are not
employees going forward of the university as a whole. Now,
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one of the red flags for me when I heard
this was, you know, there are laws about disclosure right
and like when you're a public university you have to
put out salaries and all that UK. I had a
conversation with someone at UK that to kind of try
to understand this. They say, UK is still going to
follow all those rules even though you could make an
argument in an LLC, they wouldn't have to. They are
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that's good. Yeah, so we'll still know, you know, whatever,
what the coaches make, et cetera. When the players are
getting rev share, they will now get it for this
from this private or from this LLC, not from the university.
So why did UK do this? This is just my take.
I think there's like three things. First of all, when
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you want to build property, if you want to build
a new thing on campus, or you want to go
buy houses around campus to tear them down to put dorms,
you have to go through the state legislature and it
is a long process. It is a very difficult process.
Now the university believes they don't have to do that.
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They can take this LLC and make decisions like a
business right. They can go buy a piece of property
in Lexington to create a new gymnastics facility or whatever,
and they can do it with out a lot of
the red tape of if they were with the university. Second,
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and no one at the university told me this, but
this is how I read it. If it ends up
being the case that we start treating these athletes as employees,
which I do think is going to happen one day,
be a lot better for them to be private employees
than to be university employees because when you're university employees,
you have do process rights, you have all of this
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stuff that comes into play a private employee, it's a
different set of things. I think if UK didn't tell
me this, it's just me. The idea that one day
these athletes might be employees is a big driver of this.
You'd rather have them be employees of a private company
than all the things that come with being a state employee.
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Does that make sense? Yes. The other thing is it's
a public private partnership, which means they can reach deals
with people and it not have to go through all
the tea the board of trustees, you know, all go
through all the processes you have to do make a
business deal. You can actually be nimble, to use a
business term, you can move quickly. Now the question becomes
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who runs this new thing? And this is where I
think UK is making a very brilliant decision. The athletic departments,
if we're all being real, now, are business entities. Yeah
they are, Okay, they are not just good old boys
hiring the coach and saying go team. They are running
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multi multi million dollar business. Yes, they have to pay coaches,
they have to raise revenue, ticket prices, endorsements, all of
this stuff, none of which really has anything to do
with athletics. They are businesses and all of these schools
have been using administrators from sports to try to run
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what amounts to one hundred million dollar businesses. UK, in
my opinion, is facing a reality of these are businesses.
Why don't we get some business people in here run it? Right?
No offense to Mitch Barnhart, he's great at what he does,
but Mitch Barnhart is not the CEO of a business.
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But now, running UK athletics is a business. So they're
gonna have this group of people, a couple of which
will probably have sports backgrounds, but honestly most of which
will have business backgrounds. You're gonna start to see people
in the Lexington community who have been successful business people.
They will now help make the decisions about the business
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and unlike now where a lot of these boosters have
already been doing this, now we'll know who they are
and their decisions. They'll be like some public accountability for
what they do. I actually think it's a great idea,
you know, in my opinion, for universities and for the governments,
public private partnerships are the way to go. I used
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to be a really big government guy and a lot
of times where conservatives are big private private guys. As
I get older, I actually think a combination is better.
When you have a public when you have the state
a public entity they think in theory about the greater
good and the private part makes money and when you
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combine those you can actually get a lot done. So
think about the dorms over here at UK. Remember the
dorms at UK. Some of you all went to UK.
They were stunk when a lot of us went. This
very outdated UK made a decision the University of Kentucky
does not inherently know how to run a dorm. Let's
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go get private companies that do know how to run
dor housing, and let's get a partnership where they make
the housing and we run it. And I think most
people will tell you one of the best things at
UK now is their dorms. Yes, would you agree with? Oh? Absolutely.
That's the example of a public private partnership. You take
two entities, the state in trying to house people and
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then the private in terms of people who build these,
combine them and it actually works. And I think Ryan,
that's what they now see for UK athletics. Let's take
the athletic people, let's have a business focus for this
new era, and let's combine it. Now. Will there be problems,
I'm sure they will at some point you'll probably hear
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me why about something they do. But as far as
a setup for the future, I actually think it's really
smart and I'm gonna bet you within the next six
months we're gonna see a bunch of other universities copy
this model. To Mitch Barnhardt and Eli Capeludo's credit, I've
been on those guys for many years for being behind
the times, not being forward thinking. This is the most
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forward thinking I've seen. And just and I'll finish with this.
Duke does this, all right, Northwestern does this, Vandy does this.
They were able to do it because they are private schools.
If you go to Duke, Duke Athletics is a private
LLC outside of the university. It's just no public schools
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ever done it before. We're just gonna be the first
public school to do you answer a lot of questions
I had. I didn't realize we were like one of
the first public schools to do it, because.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
It seems like we are the first to do it,
So it doesn't it seem like it's what's a platform?
All the other public schools are gonna try to follow
a mimic and follow now.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
I think a lot of public schools didn't want to
do it because they've held themselves under this notion of
our mission is academics. And that's true, but come on,
in twenty twenty five, when you're raising the revenue these
things are we got to stop acting like this is
not a business. And I think UK is becoming the
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first university to recognize this is a business and we
need to run it like a business instead of trying
to fix a business and kind of throw it into it.
Only a university where a lot of the things we
do for science teachers they don't make sense to do
for athletic department employees. And I think that's where we are.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
You know it about Mitch and Eli forever, they've been
reaction guys, I mean slowed in il. It felt like
Mitch was a hostage there at the beginning, even talking
about inn Al, I mean he was late to get beer.
He wanted to see it worked everywhere else. He's always
wanted to see how it works in other schools, and
then we'll get to it after taking all in the info.
I was surprised that he was the first to step
out and do this, and I think it's a great
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move and a great sign Mitch that he's not gonna
say changing, but he was willing to try something no
one else had done yet without sitting back and waiting
to see.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I spoke with a couple of people I had heard
something was coming. They asked to talk to me right
before it got released, and I sat there and I
put my lawyer hat on it. Okay, I peppered them
with every question I would ask if I was putting
them under oath in a court of law about this,
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and to be honest with you. They answered everyone with
things that kind of made sense to me, and I
came away not really seeing the downside. The only downside
to me could be the public release of information. Could
they hide everything? And they said to me, we are
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going to release everything just as we would before. If
they do that, then I don't see what the downside.
I really don't because it makes sense to me.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Yeah, you answered the other question I had about it.
I thought Mitch Barnet would just be bizarre of all this.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
So Mitch, but the way it works is this board
will make recommendations to Mitch, who still is accountable to
the board of trustees. Gotcha. So it's almost like, hey,
we need to no longer think that Mitch is, like
you know, Mark Zuckerberg running the company himself. He needs
business people to kind of help tell him what to do,
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which is smart, which should which to me is actually
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Tukey Sports Radio A five nine two eight oh twenty
two eighty seven on text machine. One person rites to Matt,
is what you talked about just a minute ago in
the change, the same thing as what you were talking
about with Louisville and the private equity. No, because our
problem is not money right now, it's management. What's gonna
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happen is the Louisvilles of the world are going to
run out of money here pretty soon because their TV
deals are not as big as the Big ten in
the SEC. So look at the draft last night, twenty
six of the thirty two players picked in the first round,
we're from the SEC or Big ten. Really, twenty six
of the thirty two there were thirteen from the SEC,
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thirteen from the Big Ten, and then the next highest
conference was the ACC with two. So if you're an
ACC or Big twelve team and you want to compete,
it's gonna be hard. Yeah, And I think that's where
you're gonna start to see some of these organizations looking
for private equity money.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
I should do the break be does this start going
to effect immediately?
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Think the board meeting is today and then when they'll
decide today when it goes into effect. But I think
it's gonna go into effect quick. It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
I just kind of not say out of nowhere, but
I don't think the news was very expected yesterdight, and
it's gonna drop to be such a major change.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
I got a text message in the morning said can
you talk at three o'clock? And I did, and then
all of a sudden, I was like, oh, I didn't
know any of that was happening. So fully changing the
landscape right there. Who's up next?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Hunter?
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Hunter? What's up? Hunter?
Speaker 9 (39:16):
How's it going? We're actually driving back from Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Okay, when you went to the draft, was it worth it?
Speaker 9 (39:24):
So we use the drafts We have a seven year old.
We use the draft like a small vacation. So where
they have the draft and other areas with all the stadiums.
So we went to Kansas City, we did Nashville, We've
done Green Bay and I'm a huge Packers fan. But
the actual draft, we didn't sit in the theater. You
could sit in the overflow in Lambou and watch it
on the jumpboats. Okay, so we sat in Lambo, which
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is a Packers fan. Was super cool to sit in
Lambo and watched it. There's a lot of stuff that
happens around noon, so there's a lot of businesses and
food and all the things like that. They have like
info play there, like my son got to play like
a flag football game.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Okay, I understand that that stuff makes then yeah, I
can get that.
Speaker 9 (40:07):
So so so all the priest stuff is fun. There's
like Hall of Fame museums and they have like little
ops and you can try on like you like locker
rooms they have set up and they have a whole
thing around like kids. Now, the actual draft we didn't
even try the theeaz that was not we're not doing that,
but we use it as a vacation we're heading back.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
That makes sense, actually, I you know what, and I
appreciate the call. I could see doing that using it
as a way to go to a city like we
do the NCAA tournament. We go to a city that
we would not otherwise go to, and then you like Milwaukee,
you would not otherwise go to Milwaukee. We went there
and had a good time, you know they did.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
I saw in the drone shot there were people in Lambo.
I didn't know what that was about, but now I understand.
It's an overflow city. That may be a better place
to go. You kids can play on lambeau Field or whatever.
You knew some watching on the jumble try. That may
be a better place to watch it than weigh in
the back of that massive crowd.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Uh. Can I mention something to you please? A Kentucky
restaurant was named one of the ten best fried chicken
holes in the Wall in the country. Yeah, okay, so
the the the name, I guess the category was fried
chicken Holes in the Wall. So it can't be a
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place like I don't know. I don't know how they
defied that, but you know what, everybody knows what all right?
I bet you, I bet you no one in here
has ever heard of this place, which by definition on
Joe's Drive in Icem, Kentucky in Lecher County. Oh my,
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the the article said, greasy fried chicken off the side
of the road that will make you melt and stay
in Letcher County and eat another meal. And I didn't
even know there was a place called icem Kentucky. Did
you know? I'd never heard of it, never heard of
ice in Kentucky. Joe's drive in in Lecher County. So
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we're going, right, we gotta we gotta check this in Whitesburg.
You gotta want it, you gotta want But if we're
in the area, we're going to ice. And if you
seven seven two seven seven four five two five four
five four on the text machine, if you've been there,
let me know. If it's what they say, it is
top ten in the country, run.
Speaker 7 (42:24):
It's worth going to make the trip. Then it sounds
like weekend getaway.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
I'm in. He'll Billy Days this weekend too. Cash wrestling,
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But he's he's here and Ryan, We're ready to go.
It's a big day. You got, We've got we have
to talk about. UK athletics made its biggest uh change
in what it is ever yesterday in my opinion, like
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like in terms of and I don't think it's gonna
have as massive an effect, but it is complete. I
think UK changed the way most colleges are going to
do athletics yesterday, and we have to talk about it.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Yeah, that day kind of set the pace now for
other schools to follow, right, they're kind of on there.
That's going to be the leader in that, Yeah, potentially.
But we're gonna get to that.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
But we have to start with the draft because I
find Drew the draft to be one of the more
entertaining things that I has nothing to do with football.
I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't ever know
any of these people like they can you know they
I start following the draft about a week before, and
then I learned things that are apparently very important, and
then I have strong opinions. So let me just go
(02:18):
through a couple of things. First of all, I'll give
you an example of how I have a strong opinion
that I had no opinion about. A few days ago,
I had zero opinion about Will Johnson of LSU's arm length. Okay,
never thought. I didn't even know who the kid was.
I had no opinion about. And then I started listening
(02:39):
to draft podcast and they kept saying, you know the
problem with Will Johnson there at number four for the Patriots.
His arms are really short, and his last name is
Campbell and they are so close. Then I will Campbell,
same thing. They still learn it still, but I was
focused on his arms. They just kept saying, there's no
way a guy can play left tackle in the NFL
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with arms that short. And I thought, well, why would
that be a big deal? And then I was like, well,
you know, you got a block and get him out.
So I decided when he was about to get picked,
I'm sitting there watching. I'm like, I'm watching for his arm. Yes,
there's no way his arms are as short as they
say they are, right, because they keep How short can
the man's arms be little t rex arms? Yeah? So
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he gets up. He has on a suit that respectfully,
white people should not wear that color. You should not
wear green. I wear green to the oaks sometimes as
a joke. Yes, but you should not wear a pin
striped green suit as a pale white guy. But he did.
He's having his moments. But when he gets up, all right, true,
(03:43):
he gets up and he stands up, and I look,
and he's got whoop be arms. He's got woo be arms.
They barely get to his waist. So, like, right now,
wherever you are, if you're not driving, you can stand up,
put your arms down. You stand up there. You see,
you are supposed to have your arms like halfway down
(04:03):
your pocket. Okay, okay, maybe a little towards the bottom
of your pocket. Yeah, assuming you're wearing your pants at
the right place. All right, So I have very long arms.
I go to the bottom of my pocket, go yesterday
and watch will Johnson his barely come to his pocket.
And I just decided, right then, bust bust with his
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will Be arms. They're not gonna work. Had no opinion
on the guy's arms until yesterday strong opinion after the
hardest part of the night was Roger Dale shaking his hand.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
I didn't think Will could even get his arm out
there to shake Roger's hand. I thought he was gonna
wear like the Secret Service fake arms in his suit
to you know, kind of extend those a little bit.
He thought he wasn't even gonna be able to reach you.
Goodell had to go ninety nine and Will just had
to go one for that hand.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So that's what I love about the draft. You just
have things that you never cared about that then you
decide to care. So I'm gonna go over. I went
through some notes. Are you ready ready? I thought it
was really dorky for Roger to get Goodell to come
out on that bicycle, all right. I know in Green
Bay people ride bikes, but he looks so awkward. Yes
it is, and it's actually very hard Drew to ride
(05:09):
a bike slowly, and you know, he had to ride
a bike slowly. It's actually hard to do that because
you have to keep your balance.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
And I thought that was end at that age, Shannon,
you rode the Packers bike?
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Yeah? Are you a former Packers bike rider? I am?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
So did you like that he came out in the
in the bike.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I thought it was a cool nod to the Packers.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Okay, yeah, then they picked cam Ward. There's never been
a first pick Ryan, They've talked about less picked. And
then there was a trade and they were like, all right,
well the number one guy's quarterback next yep. So like
he was gone, Like, there's never been a number one
overall pick that was talked about less than cam Woard.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yeah, because you know all week they were talking about
he was probably gonna be the number one pick. So
I wasn't a surprise, but that trade was a little
bit of a surprise. So that's why they weren't to emphasize.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Travis Hunter goes number two. I just remember my number
one thing was is he still dating his girlfriend? Because
you remember that was a big thing on TikTok for
a His girlfriend would like yell at him, you know,
do you remember that she'd like come out on the
field and be like, stand up straight, sit down, don't
take pictures with her, Yeah, stop taking pictures. But she
was there so she's made it to the draft. Good
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for her getting married next month. There you go. Would
you like his pink suit?
Speaker 6 (06:18):
You know it was fine. I really like Travis Hunter.
I thought the Jags might have given up way too
much for him, but he just seems like a fun
guy that loved being there. When he's running through the tunnel,
bouncing off the walls, I was.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Poor Liam Cohen, Like all people do is make fun
of me, Like the moment they make that trade, everybody's
just posting that dude, like, you know, Shanna, do you
still have that drop?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Ever saved it?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Oh? Yeah, I should have it? So terrible. That's never
gonna leave him.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
It's never gonna him forever.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Gonna have that forever, isn't he? Yeah? I mean that's
all the internet was.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
I mean really, when I just see him, just a
photo of him in a JAG's outfit, I hear it
in my head.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
That's that's just associated with him, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I do have it here, it is, dude.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I mean, like it's gonna that's gonna stay with him forever,
because as soon as they show him, that's all anybody
knows about him outside of Kentucky.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
You know, we kind of thought he was a little
bit of a dork anyway, that emphasized he is king
of the dorks.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Uh, there was a baby that threw up. Did you
see that?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
They thought about you immediately, like that would have loved
to have been right there next to this.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Exactly what I was talking about when I played that
Judy Jimstone clip. Baby babies have bacteria. Babies are that
they're not classy. And so here it is night and
the baby just throws up. I know it's spit up,
but whatever, it's still gross. Just throws up on everybody.
Now to be fair to the baby, the mother was
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jumping up and down, jumping up and down, and that
baby was asleep, and all of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
It was like shaking that baby all over the place.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
There was a lot of baby shaking going on.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
It felt like there's always a secondary character at the draft,
you know, is Will Loves's girlfriend. A few it was
always someone that wasn't supposed to be the star and
I'm the star. And last night it was that baby
that now needs to be in concussion protocols for mom
just banging its head around.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Another thing I noticed for the people that were not
at the draft, it feels like the amount of people
getting invited into the rooms keeps growing, like there are
fifty to sixty people now in each room. I was
thinking if it were me, I don't wouldn't have this
many people. I think I would have a very small group.
(08:28):
I don't even know if I know sixty people that
I would want to go. Would you have a big
group in yours.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
If I was a chance to be a first round
draft pick, I would have the whole city of Lexington
probably join me.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I actually believe that, yes, I wouldn't want all those
people in my house. Plus you're waiting and they're looking
at you like, oh, let's go happen here in a minute.
I just I don't think I would enjoy that.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
I think I would have a pretty big party if
I were going to the green Room, and it'd be
hard to get all those people to want to travel
to Green Bay. But other than that, I think i'd
like to have my squad there.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Would you want to be at the draft or would
you want to be at your house? Because it looked
like there were more people at their house than usually
are amongst the top picks a leen house.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Unless I was for sure tops with just the fear
of being one of the guys that sits there, cause
you get talked about forever as a even though you're
not a bust, you're considered one because you didn't get picked.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
On night one, Shannon Are, the Bears picked a guy
and he was a tight end, and he was the
second ranked tight end even though the first ranked tight
end was on the board. So I thought I was going.
I was a little disappointed. And then they showed his
house and he had two massive elk Did you see that? Yeah,
he had two just massive elk.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
You think he mounted those himself.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I don't know, but they think. I don't really know
elk size. I'm not an elk expert, but it felt
like to me those were really big elk, And so
I thought, Okay, I think I like this guy. Now
I think I need my tight end to have two
really big.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Elk enough though you don't really need two.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I need to because he's a tight end. That means
he can play on the left and the right side.
Big help, And so then I felt better about our pick.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Well, you want your tight end to be a little nasty,
So if he's out there hunting and maybe cleaning himself.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Yeah, male, hope he cleaned himself, clean the elk.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
You mean clean the elk? Yeah, I mean I think
for his teammates, they need to clean. He went on
a Vader situation ship that's right. Yeah, So I do
hope he cleans himself.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I've wondered, including him, if if these guys like stage
a house, like sometimes if you're doing a Netflix interview,
they take you to Airbnb so it looks nicer. I
wonder if they're like, all right, let's rent some elk
for the night, throw them on the wall. Let's really
get this place looking nice for draft night.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
So then another thing I noticed, It felt like this
year there were a lot more family members who had
airbrushed T shirts. Like of that, there was the family
where the kid had an airbrush T shirt of his parents,
and the parent had an airbrush T shirt of the kid.
I thought you could only get that done at gatlin Burg.
But some of these looked really nice, like really nice
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airbrush T shirts. Do you like that trend?
Speaker 7 (10:59):
I I didn't know that was a trend until last night.
Last I saw one of them.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know why why that came from?
Why that started, but you know you're trying to it's
a fashion statement.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
You know, it's a weird fashion statement because I feel
like the only people I see besides the draft wearing
airbrush t shirts of their face are either people at
Walmart or some funerals that they didn't have the service
at the park and everyone wears a shirt. Those are
the only times I ever.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
High school spring break.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Yeah one, it might have said that spring break two
thousand and one on the Ring Break two thousand Okay.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Maxwell Harriston was one of the stars of the draft
because he was so nice. First of all, he got
picked by the Bills. That's great. He's gonna be on
a good team with Ray Davis Ray Davis, so that's cool.
But he was one of the stars of the draft
because of how nice he was. First of all, great jacket,
that was a great jacket. That blue jant was that
like peacock print. I was trying to figure out. I
don't know. I thought, whoever got him his jacket salute?
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Then he was just hugging everybody or right. It kind
of reminded me of you. Even though all these people
were getting picked ahead of him, he seemed genuinely happy
for everybody else. CBS Sports has this video this morning
of them playing like a very sort of emotional song
and just showing him hugging everybody, and then when it
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was his turn, they hugged him. I felt like Maxwell
Harriston was the feel good story of the nine.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
It was I thought it was. It was a great moment.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
And even after he got drafted, when Laura re Ltd
interviewed his family, everybody's family was the same way.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
They're all so nice, so nice.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
That's one of the things UK Football's got to do
a better job of allowing us to know these kids.
Because I had no idea that Maxwell Harriston was that
big a personality. He should have been on this show
like all the time, because he showed that in the
last few days.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Yeah, he was the star. I mean I saw several
tweets from people there a Lissa Laye, Kay Adams. They
were saying Max Harrison is the star of the draft.
I mean, the guys would get their hat, hug Max Harriston,
and then they'd chack the commissioner's hand.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
It was all part of the process and it's a
great lesson. Like he seemed genuinely happy for everyone else,
and then it worked out for him. He wasn't sitting
there going that should have been me. He was expressing
joy to everybody else. That was very cool.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
You know how much he means to the guys in
the UK locker room because you saw how they all
reacted when he yes video of memory. Yeah, jumping up
and down and celebrating alongside of him.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
And then probably the biggest story was that Shador Sanders
dropped out of the first round. Now, I said on
this show, if they don't have a camera live on him,
that's a problem. They did have a room, but no
one was in the room, right. Remember when they showed
the room, there was nobody in it. I was like, oh.
And then when they would go to the house, he
was never on screen. It was just Dion and a
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dude in one of those big hats. Who was that guy,
the Philly guy, Gilly he does a lot with barstool.
That was that? Who that was? That was the guy
with the big hat? Okay, well, I guess maybe he'll
be at the thing that we might see him next Monday,
But but they just they would never show him. That's
when I knew it was going to be a long
fall for him.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah, you kind of, you know, tip us off to
that if there's no live camera on the family and
him sitting on the couch. He knew he's probably not
gonna be one of the top picks. But I was
surprised he fell out of the first completely fell out
of the first round.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
When the Giants traded up to get a quarterback, I thought, well,
there he is, he's going to New York. There was
a lot pre draft about him going to New York
and then they took Jackson Dart. That had to have
just been a knife in the heart. Jackson Dart, by
the way, guaranteed bust. Absolutely guarantee every year. I give
you my four star Lock of the Year bust. Anthony
Richardson was that two years ago. Jackson Dark guaranteed bust.
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There's no way that works out, just mark it down.
That made it much worse for him. And there was
one moment where ESPN went to his house and they
quickly cut it because they were watching the NFL network.
Did you see that it had the NFL network guy
on the screen and ESPN like cut right back out.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Huh Yeah. And there were so many feeds you could watch.
There was like the Emotional Feed, which was on ABC
that was like where they would tell you everybody and
that their dog had died and all that, And I
watched the Football Feed, which is es be in H
and mel Kuiper. Everyone needs one person in life as
happy as who loves them as much as mel Kuiper
loves Shador Sanders. When Jackson Dark got picked again, he
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didn't even talk about Jackson Dart. He just talked about
how Shadur Sanders was better. And I was like, I
think Jackson Dart's gonna be a bust, but at least
give the guys. Dude. He didn't even like all he
did was talking. You would think that he was married
to Shuder Sanders' mom.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
It was like after every pick and go to Kiper,
He's like, well, Sanders is still on the board. For
the next day, He's like, what about the guy that
just got drafted?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Do you any he's going down with the Sanders ship.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Yeah, we said that for the show Shadeers. He was
going down at Shader Sanders hill Man. He was gonna
hang with him the whole time, and you know, doesn't
make him lose a little credibility because that was his
number one court.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
We won't know until a few years from that, right, Like,
I mean, he did this same thing with Aaron Rodgers
where he was like, why are they letting Aaron Rodgers slip?
And that ended up Aaron Rodgers was was good. Now
He's also did it with like Blaine Gabbert, who ended
up terrible. So you never really know.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
I thought you were gonna lead with clay Man. That
was like a direct shot you where he pulled out
the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I mean he the combination of Trump and the bear suck.
Clay Matthews. He's low on my list. But you know what,
any time I see a professional football player with the ponytail,
I'm just assuming he's gonna say something about Trump. It's
it's all. It's a Bosa or it's aj Horn or
whatever his name is, or it's Matthews, like they all,
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they all do it.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
I liked, I'm not really caring about that rivalry. To
be on that stage and pull out the bear suck.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
That was nice. That was I have a question for
you about that. Who is it that goes to this event?
I need to have that conversation with you because I
think it has to be miserable, but we'll talk about that.
Let's take a break. We'll be right back. We're here
at KOs Bar's Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back in his
Kentucky Sports Radio. Thanks to one of our listeners who
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just brought us Jeff's Donuts. Who's next to here. I
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place right there is.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Good and when he hurls the box, he said, you
gotta try these blueberry donut holes.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
So thank you much for that. One person writes on
the text machine seven seven two seven seventy four five
two five four, Matt, one of the things that fascinates
me is how many jerseys must be backstage. They have
to have a jersey for every team, for every player.
Interesting you say that. I've thought about that for years.
I've always thought I'd love to get the jersey that
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they don't use of a player. So I'd love to
have like a Patrick Mahomes Bears jersey, because we considered
picking him, passed him over and then he went to
Kansas City. That'd be a cool collectible. That's not how
they do it. Yeah, I saw the video. Have you
seen this in the citiot. They have you saw it.
It was on it was on social media yesterday. They
have five jerseys of each team that are blank on
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the name. When the pick is in, you know how,
the thing will say pick is in and then there's
a long delay. Yeah. The reason is a delay is
they're making their jersey. They take that, they see it,
they get it, they give it. They have a press
in the back and they have all the names and
they take it and quickly press the name onto the jersey.
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That's that little delay from when they say the pick
is in and when they announce it they quickly. It
takes like ninety seconds they make the jersey and then
they have it right there. So there's act. They're literally
doing it backstage. Isn't that kind of interesting?
Speaker 7 (18:21):
It's kind of old school, but it's awesome that they
do it that way.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah. I like it. And they have to have the
name of every player in every team's font just in cases.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
So I remember the NFL COVID draft. Jedrick willis from
here in Lexington. He got sent a hat of every
single team.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
They do that with the hat. Yeah, so with the jersey.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Yeah, I was thinking as we watched that he has
to do it so quickly. There's a lot of pressure.
You gotta get that straight. I make sure the name
is right. But his neat just sell just ready to
go to Jersey.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
All right, Why would anyone Shannon go to this thing? Okay,
let me explain what is party? But you're just standing
there in a parking Okay. So when we watch it
on TV, we get to see all the production. The
guys talk about it, they show highlights. When they're just
standing there, they don't show anything. It's just Roger Goodell
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comes out. He tries to be cool with his stupid
bro hugs and all that, and then that's it. And
then for ten minutes you're just standing there. Do you
think that would be fun? Like? Would you want to
go to the NFL Draft?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I would not go to the NFL drafts. I didn't
go when it was in Nashville. But y'all, I'm with
you on this. It's always fascinating me. These people. They
dress up and like the Baltimore Ravens gear and everything,
and then they announced the Ravens draft Mario O.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Maitland and they go crazy and they have no idea
who they.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Just draft and it's not just people like from Wisconsin,
this people from all over the world.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
There were two hundred thousand people, massive crowd. I don't
I don't get it. I don't get and I especially
don't get the people that are going like tonight and
the next time, cause I know you don't know who
those people are, Like, why are you going? I'm your huckleberry.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
I had a group we considered going this year when
the Titans got the number one pick, And if not
for Romeo and Juliet, I might have been there last night.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
So if you had gone, what would you have done?
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Partied like Shannon so you could party here. But it's
the draft. My team's got the number one pick.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I don't mind.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Like I said, they picked cam you don't like standing around.
I don't mind standing around and hanging out.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
So they picked cam Ward.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Then what are you doing the rescue partyingoo other picks,
hang out with people, check out, check out the scene
in Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
So you would go? Yeah, I actually we considered it.
We had about four of us that we're gonna go. See.
I would go to the NBA Draft because you're sitting down, Yes,
you're indoors. Yes, seems like you can see everything. But
I looked at that big mass of humanity last night, Shannon,
and I was thinking that just looks.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Awful to me that that basically doubled the population of
green Bay.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, green Bay, it was like.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
One hundred thousand, you say, two hundred thousand was there,
so I can't imagine, like they probably didn't have enough
hotel rooms for everybody.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Of course, all the backyards, like where we went to Telgate,
that was pretty cool. I like seeing the scene around
there of people doing what they would do for a
normal pass.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
So when I went up there when we went to
that game, and then when I did the show for ESPN,
there's a house that's right there next to the stadium
that ESPN Milwaukee owns. That would I would go there.
You could, you could sit in the yard and watch,
like I would go there, But I don't think I
would go stand in that park.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
I'm kind with you.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
I would enjoy being at that house and just being
a part of it. But man, that they kept showing
those drone shots of that massive crowd of people that
was that was unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I'd really just go to boom own team probably being
a Titans fanly. I also like that they will find
in the in the lot. It'll be like the Arizona
Cardinals will be on the clock and there'll be a
camera with like six Arizona people and they're just looking
at the camera and there going. And then you go,
all right, did they go get those people and ask
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them to come here? Where did they find them? Because
they're always at the front, which means I think they
bring the people up and they go stand here. And
I was thinking last night, what would be the team
that would have the fewest people in that crowd? Oh,
the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
That's remember when they had the Zoom draft they couldn't
even get people on Zoom. The twenty twenty year they
had fans on that big uh they had like the
one Chargers woman. Remember, It's like they couldn't get more.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Than a very good point about the Chargers. I wondered,
did they shoot? Did they show fans for the Chargers?
I think you have to hire local actors for teams
like the Chargers, especially in Green bell I was gonna
say that Cardinals would have the fewest fans, but I
think you're right, Well, those are one A and one
B the Chargers because the people that were Chargers fans.
They moved so like, if you live in San Diego,
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do you even still like them anymore?
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Maybe if the draft's in a fun city. But at
Green Bay those had to have been paid actors.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Next year, you know where it is? Cleveland? Oh? Is
it really so? Get excited? I did like the one guy,
I think it was Travis Henry. They're like, what do
you think of being up here? And he was like,
there's nothing to do, I'm ready to leave. Well, there
you go. All right, we're gonna talk about the future
of how UK athletics is gonna do it, and the
phone will be right back to Chaos are TJ Smith?
(23:05):
Personal injury attorney called TJ? He'll make them.
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Speaker 3 (23:12):
Here's Matt Jones.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Welcome back in Kentucky Sports Radio. Here at Chaos Bar
and Grill. Come on out and have lunch or see
us this weekend. We uh, you know, gonna have all
We'll have the draft on all weekend, all the various
NBA games. If you you your family's in town, are
there events in Lexington this weekend? Got the uh? I
think Avid Brothers tonight all the Avid Brothers.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Yeah, is Sheriff's bro Juliet Because I just saw Sheryl
Crow's tour bus go.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Through lexon this morning. Oh really, Scoop or scuttle Buth
do what legends?
Speaker 7 (23:42):
Opening Night, legends weekend.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
A lot of stuff. You could come to the bar
before or after, uh, any of those things. One person writes,
matt if you were in Europe and you saw the
NFL draft was there, I think you would go to
be part of the atmosphere, So why wouldn't you do
it in America? Okay, that's a fair point. But at
the same time, I watched the draft and I don't
think it feels like good atmosphere. Like the reason I
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wanted to go to the darts in soccer was it
looks like crazy atmosphere to me. Except for when the
packers were picking. It didn't look like a great atmosphere.
It looked like people just standing around.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I think it'll be something fun to maybe do for
an hour an hour?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Yeah, then, okay, that's fair. Let's quickly take a call.
Who's up first.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Let's go to Matthew.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Matthew, go ahead, Matthew.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Good morning, gentlemen, First time, longtime?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Who what's up.
Speaker 9 (24:34):
First?
Speaker 8 (24:34):
I would like to make a statement and say you're
welcome to the BBN. I work at Tyson Foods in
Clinton County, Kentucky. So I would like to imagine that
part of my contribution is to saving the university thirty
three million dollars.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Yes, well, you're to thank you to Arkansas for doing that.
What's your second thing?
Speaker 8 (24:54):
I would like to take a point from yesterday's show
about the NIL. It might be a unpopular opiece onion,
but I like to imagine about seventy five percent of
Kentucky fans are Kentucky fans primarily because of the basketball team. Yes,
and I believe that when it comes to NIL contributions
that they should divvy out and feed the program that
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has kept your school in relevancy.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Here's the problem with giving all the money to basketball,
which I did. Have a lot of people write me
yesterday and say we should give fifty percent or seventy
five percent to basketball. Here's a problem. As much as
Kentucky is a school where basketball has historically been not
only better, but the focus of the fan base, guess
where our money comes from, Sir, guess what funds the budget.
(25:41):
Football Yep, So I mean football is what gets the revenue.
We are one of only like four basketball schools in
the country where basketball even makes a profit. But even
at this school where basketball makes a profit, football makes
a much larger profit. So if you just abandon the
thing that makes a profit, guess what's gonna happen. Your
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profit's gonna go down. And then once that profit goes down,
it's gonna be harder for you to pay that in
il money. And so all this get that, there's a
snowball effect. So if you just abandon football and like say,
well we just won't even try to be competitive, people
will stop going to the games, and then you have
a severe revenue problem.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
Well, sir, I understand that, And I'm not saying to
take away and just give all the money to basketball.
I was saying, take care of the program that keeps
you in national relevancy and then you know, focus on
the rest. I get that, you know, the football program
does give us more money, but I don't want to
go back to the Gillespie years whenever.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
You know, doing that, apparently we're spending more on nil
than any other basketball program. So I appreciate the call.
I don't think that. I don't think that's gonna be
a worry. All right, So let's talk about what happened
yesterday with you k cause this this is this is
very complicated, and I admit I can't say I have
one hundred percent grasp on it, but I think I
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have a decent grass. So what Kentucky has done basically
is they have moved UK Athletics, the entity of UK
Athletics into a private holding company. It is basically now
a private LLC. It is still run by and reports
to the university, but instead of UK Athletics being basically
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like the UK School of Science, it is now a
holding company outside of the university that the university owns
but is not a part of the university. They have
this same model already for UK healthcare when it comes
to hospitals. You know, they bought a couple of hospitals
in eastern Kentucky and they buy Land et cetera. So
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UK Athletics for all intents and purposes, and that is
now a private LLC holding company, private though, but it's
still owned by the university. Mitch Barnhardt, Mark Pope, Mark stoops.
They are now employees of this LLC. They are not
employees going forward of the university as a whole. Now,
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one of the red flags for me when I heard
this was, you know, there are laws about disclosure right
and like when you're a public university you have to
put out salaries and all that UK. I had a
conversation with someone at UK that to kind of try
to understand this. They say, UK is still going to
follow all those rules even though you could make an
argument in an LLC, they wouldn't have to. They are
(28:36):
that's good. Yeah, so we'll still know, you know, whatever,
what the coaches make, et cetera. When the players are
getting rev share, they will now get it for this
from this private or from this LLC, not from the university.
So why did UK do this? This is just my take.
I think there's like three things. First of all, when
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you want to build property, if you want to build
a new thing on campus, or you want to go
buy houses around campus to tear them down to put dorms,
you have to go through the state legislature and it
is a long process. It is a very difficult process.
Now the university believes they don't have to do that.
(29:19):
They can take this LLC and make decisions like a
business right. They can go buy a piece of property
in Lexington to create a new gymnastics facility or whatever,
and they can do it with out a lot of
the red tape of if they were with the university. Second,
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and no one at the university told me this, but
this is how I read it. If it ends up
being the case that we start treating these athletes as employees,
which I do think is going to happen one day,
be a lot better for them to be private employees
than to be university employees because when you're university employees,
you have do process rights, you have all of this
(30:02):
stuff that comes into play a private employee, it's a
different set of things. I think if UK didn't tell
me this, it's just me. The idea that one day
these athletes might be employees is a big driver of this.
You'd rather have them be employees of a private company
than all the things that come with being a state employee.
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Does that make sense? Yes. The other thing is it's
a public private partnership, which means they can reach deals
with people and it not have to go through all
the tea the board of trustees, you know, all go
through all the processes you have to do make a
business deal. You can actually be nimble, to use a
business term, you can move quickly. Now the question becomes
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who runs this new thing? And this is where I
think UK is making a very brilliant decision. The athletic departments,
if we're all being real, now, are business entities. Yeah
they are, Okay, they are not just good old boys
hiring the coach and saying go team. They are running
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multi multi million dollar business. Yes, they have to pay coaches,
they have to raise revenue, ticket prices, endorsements, all of
this stuff, none of which really has anything to do
with athletics. They are businesses and all of these schools
have been using administrators from sports to try to run
(31:28):
what amounts to one hundred million dollar businesses. UK, in
my opinion, is facing a reality of these are businesses.
Why don't we get some business people in here run it? Right?
No offense to Mitch Barnhart, he's great at what he does,
but Mitch Barnhart is not the CEO of a business.
(31:48):
But now, running UK athletics is a business. So they're
gonna have this group of people, a couple of which
will probably have sports backgrounds, but honestly most of which
will have business backgrounds. You're gonna start to see people
in the Lexington community who have been successful business people.
They will now help make the decisions about the business
(32:09):
and unlike now where a lot of these boosters have
already been doing this, now we'll know who they are
and their decisions. They'll be like some public accountability for
what they do. I actually think it's a great idea,
you know, in my opinion, for universities and for the governments,
public private partnerships are the way to go. I used
(32:31):
to be a really big government guy and a lot
of times where conservatives are big private private guys. As
I get older, I actually think a combination is better.
When you have a public when you have the state
a public entity they think in theory about the greater
good and the private part makes money and when you
(32:52):
combine those you can actually get a lot done. So
think about the dorms over here at UK. Remember the
dorms at UK. Some of you all went to UK.
They were stunk when a lot of us went. This
very outdated UK made a decision the University of Kentucky
does not inherently know how to run a dorm. Let's
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go get private companies that do know how to run
dor housing, and let's get a partnership where they make
the housing and we run it. And I think most
people will tell you one of the best things at
UK now is their dorms. Yes, would you agree with? Oh? Absolutely.
That's the example of a public private partnership. You take
two entities, the state in trying to house people and
(33:35):
then the private in terms of people who build these,
combine them and it actually works. And I think Ryan,
that's what they now see for UK athletics. Let's take
the athletic people, let's have a business focus for this
new era, and let's combine it. Now. Will there be problems,
I'm sure they will at some point you'll probably hear
(33:55):
me why about something they do. But as far as
a setup for the future, I actually think it's really
smart and I'm gonna bet you within the next six
months we're gonna see a bunch of other universities copy
this model. To Mitch Barnhardt and Eli Capeludo's credit, I've
been on those guys for many years for being behind
the times, not being forward thinking. This is the most
(34:19):
forward thinking I've seen. And just and I'll finish with this.
Duke does this, all right, Northwestern does this, Vandy does this.
They were able to do it because they are private schools.
If you go to Duke, Duke Athletics is a private
LLC outside of the university. It's just no public schools
(34:40):
ever done it before. We're just gonna be the first
public school to do you answer a lot of questions
I had. I didn't realize we were like one of
the first public schools to do it, because.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
It seems like we are the first to do it,
So it doesn't it seem like it's what's a platform?
All the other public schools are gonna try to follow
a mimic and follow now.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
I think a lot of public schools didn't want to
do it because they've held themselves under this notion of
our mission is academics. And that's true, but come on,
in twenty twenty five, when you're raising the revenue these
things are we got to stop acting like this is
not a business. And I think UK is becoming the
(35:17):
first university to recognize this is a business and we
need to run it like a business instead of trying
to fix a business and kind of throw it into it.
Only a university where a lot of the things we
do for science teachers they don't make sense to do
for athletic department employees. And I think that's where we are.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
You know it about Mitch and Eli forever, they've been
reaction guys, I mean slowed in il. It felt like
Mitch was a hostage there at the beginning, even talking
about inn Al, I mean he was late to get beer.
He wanted to see it worked everywhere else. He's always
wanted to see how it works in other schools, and
then we'll get to it after taking all in the info.
I was surprised that he was the first to step
out and do this, and I think it's a great
(35:58):
move and a great sign Mitch that he's not gonna
say changing, but he was willing to try something no
one else had done yet without sitting back and waiting
to see.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I spoke with a couple of people I had heard
something was coming. They asked to talk to me right
before it got released, and I sat there and I
put my lawyer hat on it. Okay, I peppered them
with every question I would ask if I was putting
them under oath in a court of law about this,
(36:26):
and to be honest with you. They answered everyone with
things that kind of made sense to me, and I
came away not really seeing the downside. The only downside
to me could be the public release of information. Could
they hide everything? And they said to me, we are
(36:47):
going to release everything just as we would before. If
they do that, then I don't see what the downside.
I really don't because it makes sense to me.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Yeah, you answered the other question I had about it.
I thought Mitch Barnet would just be bizarre of all this.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
So Mitch, but the way it works is this board
will make recommendations to Mitch, who still is accountable to
the board of trustees. Gotcha. So it's almost like, hey,
we need to no longer think that Mitch is, like
you know, Mark Zuckerberg running the company himself. He needs
business people to kind of help tell him what to do,
(37:21):
which is smart, which should which to me is actually
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(37:42):
you can ride them on the text machine or call.
I'll answer them as best as I can from what
I know. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back at
Tukey Sports Radio A five nine two eight oh twenty
two eighty seven on text machine. One person rites to Matt,
is what you talked about just a minute ago in
the change, the same thing as what you were talking
about with Louisville and the private equity. No, because our
problem is not money right now, it's management. What's gonna
(38:04):
happen is the Louisvilles of the world are going to
run out of money here pretty soon because their TV
deals are not as big as the Big ten in
the SEC. So look at the draft last night, twenty
six of the thirty two players picked in the first round,
we're from the SEC or Big ten. Really, twenty six
of the thirty two there were thirteen from the SEC,
(38:27):
thirteen from the Big Ten, and then the next highest
conference was the ACC with two. So if you're an
ACC or Big twelve team and you want to compete,
it's gonna be hard. Yeah, And I think that's where
you're gonna start to see some of these organizations looking
for private equity money.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
I should do the break be does this start going
to effect immediately?
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Think the board meeting is today and then when they'll
decide today when it goes into effect. But I think
it's gonna go into effect quick. It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
I just kind of not say out of nowhere, but
I don't think the news was very expected yesterdight, and
it's gonna drop to be such a major change.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
I got a text message in the morning said can
you talk at three o'clock? And I did, and then
all of a sudden, I was like, oh, I didn't
know any of that was happening. So fully changing the
landscape right there. Who's up next?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Hunter?
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Hunter? What's up? Hunter?
Speaker 9 (39:16):
How's it going? We're actually driving back from Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Okay, when you went to the draft, was it worth it?
Speaker 9 (39:24):
So we use the drafts We have a seven year old.
We use the draft like a small vacation. So where
they have the draft and other areas with all the stadiums.
So we went to Kansas City, we did Nashville, We've
done Green Bay and I'm a huge Packers fan. But
the actual draft, we didn't sit in the theater. You
could sit in the overflow in Lambou and watch it
on the jumpboats. Okay, so we sat in Lambo, which
(39:47):
is a Packers fan. Was super cool to sit in
Lambo and watched it. There's a lot of stuff that
happens around noon, so there's a lot of businesses and
food and all the things like that. They have like
info play there, like my son got to play like
a flag football game.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Okay, I understand that that stuff makes then yeah, I
can get that.
Speaker 9 (40:07):
So so so all the priest stuff is fun. There's
like Hall of Fame museums and they have like little
ops and you can try on like you like locker
rooms they have set up and they have a whole
thing around like kids. Now, the actual draft we didn't
even try the theeaz that was not we're not doing that,
but we use it as a vacation we're heading back.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
That makes sense, actually, I you know what, and I
appreciate the call. I could see doing that using it
as a way to go to a city like we
do the NCAA tournament. We go to a city that
we would not otherwise go to, and then you like Milwaukee,
you would not otherwise go to Milwaukee. We went there
and had a good time, you know they did.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
I saw in the drone shot there were people in Lambo.
I didn't know what that was about, but now I understand.
It's an overflow city. That may be a better place
to go. You kids can play on lambeau Field or whatever.
You knew some watching on the jumble try. That may
be a better place to watch it than weigh in
the back of that massive crowd.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Uh. Can I mention something to you please? A Kentucky
restaurant was named one of the ten best fried chicken
holes in the Wall in the country. Yeah, okay, so
the the the name, I guess the category was fried
chicken Holes in the Wall. So it can't be a
(41:19):
place like I don't know. I don't know how they
defied that, but you know what, everybody knows what all right?
I bet you, I bet you no one in here
has ever heard of this place, which by definition on
Joe's Drive in Icem, Kentucky in Lecher County. Oh my,
(41:42):
the the article said, greasy fried chicken off the side
of the road that will make you melt and stay
in Letcher County and eat another meal. And I didn't
even know there was a place called icem Kentucky. Did
you know? I'd never heard of it, never heard of
ice in Kentucky. Joe's drive in in Lecher County. So
(42:05):
we're going, right, we gotta we gotta check this in Whitesburg.
You gotta want it, you gotta want But if we're
in the area, we're going to ice. And if you
seven seven two seven seven four five two five four
five four on the text machine, if you've been there,
let me know. If it's what they say, it is
top ten in the country, run.
Speaker 7 (42:24):
It's worth going to make the trip. Then it sounds
like weekend getaway.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
I'm in. He'll Billy Days this weekend too. Cash wrestling,
just saying we'll take a break.
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