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Speaker 3 (00:33):
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Speaker 4 (00:35):
Welcome everyone, Kentucky Sports Radio. Wednesday, May the fourteenth. I'm
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Beautiful day outside. Matt Jones, Ryan Limit and Drew Franklin.
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I couldn't would not know how to use it, but uh,
I hope it's I hope it goes well.

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You can give a shout.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Remember, I'm two days into not interrupting killing it.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
You've done a great job. Let's calls go yesterday. I
can't believe you let them go that long.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
We're doing ask anything Thursday tomorrow. That'll be the test.
That'll be the test, That'll be the test.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Uh, but I'll be in studio in Louisville, so maybe
that'll make it easier.

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He'll make them pay. Ryan, I got fourteen topics on here,
so we may not get to all of them. Last
night we did trivia. You were not here. Uh, but uh,

(01:47):
there were there were some good questions.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Well, I'm hearing from my sources they were hard questions
last night.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, maybe, I mean probably the average score was down
a little, but the winners did very well. I thought
I would test you with a couple to start.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Okay, all right, are you ready?

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:04):
I don't know any of.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Them, so this will maybe test your your memory a
little bit. Okay, can you name for me? Guys? The
last eight teams Kentucky has beaten in the NCAA Tournament.
The last eight teams Kentucky has beaten in the NCAA Tournament.
Let's see how you can. Let's alternate. Ryan, you go first, Buffalo?

(02:26):
Buffalo is one of them? How about you?

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Right? Or Drew?

Speaker 6 (02:29):
Why can I not even think of this season? Who
did Kentucky play this season?

Speaker 4 (02:33):
All right? Now, that's embarrassing. I was there that. This
is really embarrassing. We beat a good team Illinois. It
just took me a second. He is on the show,
you know, and he can't get one of them. I
was in the building. Can you get one?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I'm trying to remember who they beat in the first
round this year? It was a really bad team.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
All right, I'll skip you. You are terrible at this.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
What about you?

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Providence? Providence, that's exactly right? Beat them and Greensboro. Now
we're up to three. Uh what about before that? Who
was before or after that? This is this is embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I thought it will would be easier to say who
they lost there I wrote about it.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Well, clearly you didn't pay a lot of attention.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
What good nice job?

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Right at least? I can't believe of all the people
on this show, you're the one that actually is remembering
that before. So let me just tell you. So I
don't listen to watch Crew's like empty head go around.
We beat Illinois. Before we beat Illinois, we beat Troy
Troy the waffle House team. Yes, then we we we
beat Providence, And then you have to go back to

(03:39):
before Covideah, right, which is kind of amazing.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Who did we Who did Tyler Hero hit a shot Houston?

Speaker 4 (03:46):
That's exactly right? And then before that, who did we.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Beat Uh's team? Shan Knox was.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Not Shane and Knox's team. This was the team with
Tyler Hero Calvin Johnson. Man, it just makes me it
was Wafford in the first round. This is the one
I think struggled with. No Abilene Christian never would have
got that one. And then you're remembering in Boise we
beat Buffalo. Do you remember who we opened that up

(04:16):
with in Boise? That's the eighth win.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
Oh no, I don't remember Davidson.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
So Davidson, Buffalo, Abilene, Christian Wafford, Houston, Providence in Troll.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
That's a that's a good question because a lot of
those schools are really.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
Corey Prescott, all Adam, I'm sure he did. Does he
missed many of your Kentucky basketballvery for you. He'll miss
like one or two answers out of eight. I have
to tell you a little disappointed in your all answers
on that. Ryan, I'll actually give you some credit. But
Drew not even remembering Illinois took him a little bit.
All right, Now, here's a good question. Here's a good question.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Okay, the ten oldest fast food restaurants in America, go
back the far this, that have at least one location
in Lexington. Okay, the ten oldest fast food restaurants that
have at least one location in Lexington. Now, little hint,
some of these are a little obscure and actually only

(05:13):
have one location. Now, two of the ten are McDonald's
and Burger King. Okay, two of the ten are McDonald's.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
And Burger King.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
But the others are not necessarily some of them A
couple of them are big, but none of them. So
what would be the eight oldest besides McDonald's and Burger King,
fast food joints in America that have.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
A location here in Lexington's.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Arby's is not one of them.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
Wendy's.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I just started this by going, these are not necessarily
the most prominent, and you are guessing the most prominent.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, white Castle, White Castle.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Is a good one. It's a good job, Shannon. White
Castle is the third oldest fast food chain in America.
Good guess Shannon is about Crystal? Crystal is not one
of them, Shannon, I'm gonna let you keep going. Since
you got it. What are you go?

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Hearty's Hardy not on the list?

Speaker 5 (06:05):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (06:06):
What else?

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Sir? Pizza? Sir pizza?

Speaker 3 (06:13):
How about Pizza Hut?

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Pizza Hut was eleven. That's very close Pizza Hut, but
it's not on the list because it's but Pizza Hut
was was was closed?

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Trying to remember when, like I think Taco Bell started then,
you know.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Talking about and those are much more recent. Yeah, well again, Subway.
Subway is the most recent, like like like Subway was. Yeah,
you are terrible, all right, I'm gonna go backwards, Sonic.
Come on, they were on roller skates minutes ago, Sonic
dunkin Donuts. I wouldn't have guess that. I wouldn't guess

(06:49):
that one either. Chick fil A, which I wouldn't have
guessed old that they have. They have been around since
the fifties, no idea, Yes, Dairy Queen, we should have
gotten that one. KFC has been around since nineteen thirty
and started here.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, that's an obvious one.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
That should have been an obvious one which we did
not do well. White Castle, you got now the two
oldest are extremely hard and only one person got one
of these and one no one in here got the other,
No kidding A and w Yeah, which has existed since
nineteen eighteen. Wow. And then the oldest fast food place

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in America goes back to nineteen fifteen. And we have
one location Nathan's Famous.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Wow. I don't even know where that is here in town?

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Isn't it just? I think it's just down the road here,
isn't it? Isn't it on Harrisburg Road?

Speaker 5 (07:43):
There's one. I looked it up.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
There's one Nathan's Famous in like you ever been to
a Nathan's Fame ever?

Speaker 5 (07:50):
I don't know where it is.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's on Harridsburg Road.
So there you go. Those are the eight uh oldest
fast food place.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
Our two neighbors, Dairy Queen, Sonic right here in our
own park.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
And all they had to do, Shan it was look
outside the door and they could have seen two of it.
I hated Sonic right before I walked in have.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Seen as the most obvious.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Show.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
So luckily, I think it was good that you all
did not play last night. I don't think it necessarily
would have been successful. Can I give you one more chance?
Since you really were nailing it right now? I want
you to give me in all of history, what are
the five most watched daytime talk shows and daytime or

(08:35):
syndicated game shows? Takes Over The Price is Rights? Number one?
Most watched game show of all time? What's number two?

Speaker 3 (08:48):
We're going all game shows here?

Speaker 4 (08:49):
God? Do you do the game shows first?

Speaker 5 (08:51):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Will of Fortune?

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Will Fortune's number three?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Family Feud?

Speaker 5 (08:54):
Family Feuds? Number four?

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Jeopardy Jeopardy's number two?

Speaker 5 (08:58):
Can he go with Clean Sweet?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Who wants to be a Millionaire?

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Well? The problem is that's a night time.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
It used to be daytime.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah, but the daytime wasn't watched it nearly is like,
oh god, one more tell the truth, Hollywood Square back
to sixty close. That was sixth. Let's make a deal, okay,
So now give me the top five talk shows most
watched all Jerry Springer. Jerry Springer is number three, Oprah

(09:31):
is number one. More Maury is not on the list.
Phil Donahue is number six. I was surprised.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
I thought that would be I would have guessed that one.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Sally, Jesse, Raphael.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
No you're missing, and five Ellen is number four and
five like it's not doctor doctor Oz is not.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
On Doctor Phil. Doctor Phil is on there.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Number two, it's number five still on the View the View.
There you go, I attended. That's great.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
That's ks R and a nutshell.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
You are much better at daytime talk shows than the
sports we actually cover and the city we live in.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
We really are.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
You are the joy Bahar rides the Whoopie gover. That's right.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
So so there they It does kind of calculate what
we're all about. I can't remember who we played in
an NCAA tournament, like a couple of months ago, just
a couple of months ago. This wasn't that long ago.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
I wrote several stories about those games too. I'm embarrassed.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
All right. So then the other big story besides my
trivia last night, Mark Pope did his press conference yesterday,
so I there were like three things that stuck out
to me. First of all, he says that the roster
is likely complete, but they might add a person here

(10:58):
or there depending on what happens with the settlement. So
basically as I read it is they have thirteen players,
but if the settlement here in June allows them to
get fifteen, they might go get one or two more.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Yeah, he wouldn't just definitively say they're done with the roster,
like he was leaving that door open. And I think
it's because of that reason you just said.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, I mean, as part of the settlement, if Congress
makes it into legislation, which right now Congress can't even
get the budget passed, so I don't know if that's
going to happen, but if they do get to legislation,
it would include fifteen basketball players. So, Drew, I do
think he was leaving an opening for if that happens.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
Yeah, he called it. There could be some movement. I
didn't read that as anyone leaving or anything, but that
he could add some guys to store on the end
of the bench for on down the road.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
So we'll see about that. Second, he did give a
nice comment about Travis Perry, said it broke his heart
when he left. What did you make of that?

Speaker 5 (11:50):
Yeah, he said he was devastated when Travis Perry left.
And I heard that comment. He really said some nice things,
some things that I think we probably all felt the
same as Coach Hope did that we kind of hated devastated. Well,
I was disappointed bed it was. It was tough. I
had to, you know, put on my number eleven line
in County Jersey and Moseyana here to came.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
I was disappointed to see him go, but I didn't
know you were devastated by.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
Well, I guess the rest of the comments like, you know, hey,
we think he's a really good player, we think he's
really gonna be of success, and.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah, so I thought that was nice to see Drew
still surprised that didn't get said at the time, but
it was good now that he was able to able
to say that, But not that anyone thought there was
a way Pope pushed him or one of them was
okay with it.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
And he made it very clear that was one hundred
percent on Travis just wanted to leave them, that they
wanted to keep him.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah. I thought that was nice. And then he made
a quote about let's see, I want to find it
because I want to get it right.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Uh well, all right.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Here was Pope about the overall program. We want to
play the hardest schedule. We want to play the best teams.
We want to win the most games. We want to
have the best players. We want to have the highest
in the nil we want the coolest uniforms. We should
be the best at everything. I think if you were

(13:10):
to sum up how fans want UK basketball to be,
that is about the best summary of a quote you
can get. Would you agree?

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Yeah? Afterlutely when we were saying that we like pump
like yeah, yeah, yeah, we want the best schedule. We
ain't scared to play anybody. Load them up, let's go,
let's go play. We want to be the coolest team.
We want to be the best uniform. I love you
threw that out there too. We want them to look
the best.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
It's interesting because it's very there are some parts of
that Drew that are different than the last guy. Yeah,
we want to have the hardest schedule, right, different, that's
not I mean to be fair to Cal. They didn't
play easy schedules, but I don't think he would have
said that necessarily. Uh, we want to win the most games.
That's even though they want a lot. Col's thing was

(13:51):
be ready for March yep, right, that was his big thing.
We want to have the highest in il. If you remember,
Cal said we don't need in ile, right, we can
do this on our own. H And we wore the
same uniform we wait with all our throwbacks. It took
until just a couple of years ago to finally wear
any of them. So I actually just thought that was
very interesting. He kind of you know what Cal used

(14:13):
to say about the gold standard mark, Pope is articulating
a gold standard that basically says, I don't care what
it is in college basketball, we want to be the
best at it.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
Yeah, that one really took off. I mean Pope spoke
for over thirty minutes yesterday. We have content on top
of content on top of content for the website, but
that one is the one that got the most attention.
I think Mario made a graphic that went viral. That
one got the fans fired up. Sam, we just want
to be the best at absolutely everything. There's been people
criticizing Kentucky for spending too much money. Pope's like, no,
we want to have the most money. We want to

(14:44):
be the best of the best of the best.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Yeah, I mean, you want to have the most. It's
like the Dodgers owner in baseball. They're like, you're spending
way more than everybody else, and he goes because we
want to win. Yeah, I mean I think that's a
similar view here.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
It did resonate with fans and it got me excited
just at one quote right there, like, man, this, this
is this is why he's here, This is why we
love our coach.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah. So, uh, you know, I think he seemed like
he handed the press conference.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Well.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
I did have a listener write in he said the
word beautiful sixteen times, but I might actually go over
on that. He always says it a lot.

Speaker 6 (15:16):
We were halfway through the press conference and I text
our group chat like, this is gonna be an all time.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
We need to do something chanting about the beautifuls. Do
we need to like have a buzzer.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
Because it's it's it's.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
A lot, it's special there's probably thirty specials yesterday.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Everybody's gather on like crutch words they.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Use, And is there any word we say as much
as beautiful? Like if you I mean, I mean beautiful
is also a weird work, Like I'm trying to think
how many times do I say beautiful in a week?
I'm not sure I ever.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Say you may have said it this morning he says
a beautiful day.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Okay. Yeah, if I'm gonna say beautiful, I would probably
say it in the context of day or maybe woman.
I'm not like Travis Perry is beautiful, Like I don't
usually say that Treneoa has a beautiful body. Yeah, I'm
I don't think I would say Noah has a beautiful bard,
but Mark Pope does, and.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
Everything is special. At some point, one of these players
aren't going to be special. So I feel like we're
kind of the boy crowd for the guys.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
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Matt Nathan's Famous is my favorite fast food place. Can't

(16:33):
believe you all don't know it. I mean I've heard
of it, But I what do they sell?

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Dogs?

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Dogs?

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Famous hot dogs?

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Are they good?

Speaker 5 (16:41):
I've never had them like any.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Other i've had them.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I had them up in Uh, it was in New
York City.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
It's some I think.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
Is that the Cony Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Thank you, that's the name. I couldn't think of it.
Cony Island.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yes, that's the famous hot dog eating contest two three.
I didn't know they First of all, I didn't know
they had a location here. Uh. Secondly, I've never had them. So,
but it is the oldest fast food place.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
So explain to me that the location in Lexington is
Fish's Big Boy.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Well, they said it says it's in in Hamburg. I said,
Harrisburg Road. It says it's in Hamburg. I guess it's
one of those ghost kitchens. Do you know about what
ghost kitchens.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
You guys are? Explain it to me.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
I'm not there a restaurants here in town that sell
food on door dash for restaurants that are not them.
So it's like, do you know what miss mister Beast
burgers are.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
I've never had one, but I think I know what
you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Kids like them right because it's mister Beasts guys correct,
But there's not a Mister Beast restaurant. They used to
sell them out of this Frish's Big Boy right over
here before it Club Road, and I think it kept
it up open for a long time. So when you go,
if you go on door Dash and you order, there
are some places you can order that actually don't have
a physical location in Lexington, but a kitchen at a
different restaurant sells it. So so presumably, like you know,

(17:53):
we could be in and out Burger or something if
there isn't one. I see there isn't one here.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
So the Nathan's Hot Stand in Lexington basically is just location.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
But apparently people are telling me it's the it's the
ghost place of Frishes. It's like you can't actually.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
They go to Sam's Club and get the Nathan's Hot
Dog pack because they sell it there and then they
just serve it out a Big Boy's kitchen. Don't tell
you where it's coming from.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah, I had no Ideatty Common Uh, I've heard, especially
like in towns like Lexington. They're they're everywhere. One person writes, Matt, Uh,
you guys say dudes way too much. You say dudes
as much as they say beautiful. I don't think that's true.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
You say dudes, we got some dudes.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, I'll say we need dudes, but I don't. I mean,
I don't think I say it about it every I
don't think every day I'm like dudes. I'm like, we
were indeed dudes.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Only when you say my name is probably the only Well.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
That's true, dude.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
I guess maybe they don't know that Shannon's nickname, and
he just thinks you're addressing Shannon as the dude.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
One person writes, Matt's you say you appreciate you ate
the call a lot. That's fair.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
Yeah, it's fair.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Another person says, Matt, is it still the summer of Elly? No,
it is the melancholy spring of Elly. Although he did
it at a home run last night. That was that was big.
But the Reds, I mean that they stink so bad,
like they're just terrible, literal.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
They lost like seven out of eight, eight out of nine,
something like that.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
They're twenty out of twenty.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
Is what it is.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
And they're playing the White Sox, who I didn't even
know we're still allowed to have a team, and they
lost last night. That tonight they're doing the Pete Rose thing,
which gets me to the second point before I go,
the phone's Pete Rose. The Major League Baseball Commissioner Rob
Manfred says that Pete Rose is now eligible for the
Hall of Fame. A lot of people are upset, said,

(19:45):
why'd you wait till he died? Manfred said, Basically, it's
a lifetime ban, and when your life ends that it
goes away. I think that's probably complete nonsense. Can since
shoeles Joe Jackson's been dead for sixty years and they
just now let him in yesterday, so or let him
be eligible yesterday. I know this is important to you

(20:07):
and Shannon specifically, So do you want to rant about
Pete Rose?

Speaker 5 (20:11):
Well, I'm just like you and everybody else. It's ridiculous
they have to wait till somebody to pass, Like as.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
I'm just telling you that, I think it's ridiculous he's
using as an excuse.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
But go ahead, Yeah, I mean the man when he
was a player, no indication that he cheated at all
all the things that happened when he was a manager,
So why could he always felt like, why couldn't he
be enshrined in Cooperstown just as a player. And you
can put an asterisk on the plaqu or whatever you
want to, but it just makes no sense that the
leading hit guy, the leading home run guy, one of
the best pictures of our generation, are all not in

(20:40):
the Hall of Fame for as a player.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
This on the pre show for turn segments. But my
thing is, okay, if you're going to say he's eligible now,
why is it okay now that he bet on baseball?
You know what I'm saying, Like, if you want to
stay consistent with that he should.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
You don't buy the it's a lifetime ban.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
And why is it okay now to put him in
now that he's passed away. I think it's a slap
to Pete Rose's face to do this eight months after
the guy dies.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
You could have given him some flowers while he was alive.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
It clearly meant a lot to him to be into
the Baseball Hall of Fame, and you wait eight months
after he dies and says, no, he's gonna.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Well, I thought I've always thought these I've said for
a long time, I think these dudes should be in
the Hall of Fame. It's not a morality contest, right,
like it's whether or not you're good at baseball. So,
but Barry Bond should be in, Pete Roach should be in, Uh,
she was, Joe Jackson should be in. Kurt Chilling. You
just Roger Clemens, you named the person with that said

(21:39):
he did do the number one thing you can't do.
And there is a sense that people act like Pete
Rose is the only one that's been punished for this.
They've banded like three NBA players for life just recently,
just recently, So I don't mind the band for life.
I do sort of agree with Shannon though, like to
wait till eight months after he dies and then do it.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, he should never be in.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
Then if you believe that, I'm okay.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
I can understand if you change your policy and say
we're not going to ban anybody, they might be banned
from baseball, but not from the Hall of Fame. But
to do the whole well, his life's over now, so
now you can do it, to me seems a little lame.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
I think a lot of people even predicted this when
Pete Rose died, it's like, now, watch, he'll finally change
it now that he's gone. And here it didn't even
take a full year for them to change it and
make him eligible. Now we got to see if they'll
actually vote him in.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
I don't think they're voted. Yeah, yeah, I don't think
I don't think those voters do the worst.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
Yeah, they're not gonna.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
I mean they seven voted Bonds in and they seven
voted Clemens in.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Baseball writers hold themselves to a pretty high standard.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Yeah, I mean, so it's you're the Baseball Hall of
Fame acts like, yeah, it's trying to elect of the
game the game, and there's a lot of people in there,
you know that did a lot of bad things.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
Oh yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
In the committee or in the Hall of Fame. I
think part of it was they just didn't like Peter Rose.
P Ros apparently was a very hard person to along with,
and I think they didn't want to give him the
satisfaction of winning still the greatest. Oh, no question. TJ.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
Smith, personal injury attorney, called TJ. He'll make them pay.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
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Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, Yeah, So tonight they're doing a Pete Rose ceremony
at the Reds. I think the first maybe second time
they've done something like that, and they're giving everybody a jersey.
If you go, I'm not going, but I'm gonna probably
sell the tickets this afternoon, hopefully get a premium on him.
Is that you will see what what happened?

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Yeah, we were talking during the break. I thought I
was pretty generous of the Red is kind of a
cool thing to give everybody a jersey.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
It gets people to come to the game.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
It'll be pat Yeah, I mean the twenty dollars. It's
a Wednesday game against the White Sox.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
They didn't put it for Friday night versus the Yankees.
They put it Wednesday versus the White Sox.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
Don't make it back on pretzels and beer real quick.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Yeah, I think I think it makes sense what person rights, Matt.
You can't compare a Rose's situation to Bonds and Clemens.
Roseen never cheated while playing, unlike the steroid guys. I
feel like I say this all the time. The steroid guys,
it wasn't illegal when they did it. Yeah, Like they're
bandoned dudes for stuff. They didn't test for it. I
don't know how you can get I don't. I mean,
clearly Bonds was on steroids, so was Clemmens, So were

(24:18):
probably a lot of guys. First of all, there are
dudes that were in on steroids who are in the
Hall of Fame. But the other thing is it wasn't illegal.
They didn't test for it, So how you gonna get mad?
I mean, it may have been technically illegal, but they
did not test for it. So what do you want?
I mean, they you know, throwing spitballs was illegal, but
it was what is it? You ain't illegal unless you

(24:40):
get caught. They never they never found a test of
these guys of it being sterari. I don't know how
you can band somebody when they never even were found guilty.
Even if we know they did it in America, you
still gotta find them guilty.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
I would think, Drew, you probably go back to the
beginning of time in baseball and someone was doing something
to get an advan that they weren't supposed to do.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
In the Hall of Fame is probably full of those people,
a ton of them.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
And then Chiless Joe Jackson.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
They let him in yesterday too. It's been sixty years
since he's been dead in many and I can't believe
I'm saying this. A lot of you all will be shocked.
I'm saying it's Kurt Shilling's the worst. Kurt Shilling is
banned just for being a jerk and just for being
like a maga guy online. And again, I think Kurt

(25:26):
Chilling is a jerk, and I think his political commentary
is awful. But it has nothing to do with whether
or not you're in the Hall of Fame, in my opinion,
Like it shouldn't just look at the stats in the
record and go off. That should have nothing. Someone else
judges their character. Yeah, the character part, once you get into.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
That, probably nobody belongs on the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
If you're gonna go by that.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
It's not the nice guy fame. It's not the you
know who do you want to date your daughter? Hall
of fame?

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Well, you know the guys Bonds, Maguire, and Sosa, they
hit all the home runs with the on steroids, probably,
but you know what, so are the pitchers who were
throwing the baseball.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
They were still able to think Roger Clemens was double
the size. Yeah, finished, what's crazy about Bonds and Clemens
is they were both really good when they were young
and skinny. Yes, like they both were awesome both they
would have been in the Hall of Fame before that.
Can they put him in just before they took the steroids?
Count Bonds just their early pictures that story. Did we

(26:21):
talk about this? I don't know if we did. I
saw a video, Shannon, you'll appreciate this as a Braves fan. Maddox,
Glavin Smoltz and uh and Pedro Martinez. Okay, those four
all for the best pictures.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
Maybe sure we are Hall of famers.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
They pitched to Tony Gwynn and Barry Bonds in the
course of their career. I want to say, let's say
seven hundred and fifty times those two guys over the
course of the seven hundred and fifty times combined those
four pictures struck those two guys out four times.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
Wow, insane. I know Tony gwyn never struck out isane,
So they still Tony Gwinn was onebelievable, Barry Bonds was
three unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
So Tony gwyn strikeout stats by themselves or nuts are nuts?
This year that like through two months had more than
Gwyn Henda's entire.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeer, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
All right, who's up first, Ben, Ben?

Speaker 4 (27:17):
Go ahead, Ben, Good morning guys.

Speaker 7 (27:21):
So we were talking yesterday about, uh, like the pressure
of having Kentucky boys come beyond the basketball team. I'm
kind of the belief now that maybe it's just best
we don't recruit Kentucky players, if just because like there's
just too much pressure, and like I feel bad for
what have with Perry and all that. I just that's
just my thought. I've been thinking about the last couple

(27:42):
of hours.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
There an interesting question, all right, so I appreciate the call.
Do you think there's always been this belief amongst our
fan base to some extent, we should have these Kentucky guys.
Do you think there's an argument of the opposite, that
we need to be careful recruiting those guys because it
puts so much pressure on them and then so much
pressure on the coaching staff.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Maybe at a certain time, by the way, that's what
Cal thought. Yeah, that's exactly what Cal.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
He got a little tired of the dump play. Dante A. Yeah,
but go ahead.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
I think there are times where, yeah, maybe it kind
of factors in, But like, right, now, Jasper Johnson is
gonna be a superstar. Malachi Marino always he was recruited
by everybody. These Kentucky's producing better level talent now. Trent
Nooa ended up being a great player last year. So
I think you can't overlook these guys now.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Is there though? They better be like because nobody's gonna
argue you shouldn't have gotten Jasper Johnson or Malachomraine?

Speaker 5 (28:33):
Right?

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Is there an argument? Though? If you're gonna give a
reach for somebody, do you give a reach? I've always
taken the belief if you're gonna take the one hundred
and fiftieth ranked player, then take the one hundred and
sixtieth and he's from Kentucky. But do you is there
any possibility that that's the opposite?

Speaker 6 (28:50):
I still believe you should get them if they if
they're worth it. But I mean, it's obvious there's a
pressure that's not on everyone else, and a pressure to
play him and the fans wanted more. I mean, they
just have to know that when they sign up that
it's coming, because there's nothing you can do about it.
But I wouldn't skip over a guy just because that exists.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
It's It'll be interesting with these two guys because Travis
Perry and Trent Noah. I think Noah will play his
whole career here, just a prediction. I could end up
being wrong about that, but I think he will. But
I also think Trent Noah knew what was gonna happen
when he got here, right. I think I think he
knew he was the thirteenth man when he signed. Travis

(29:28):
Perry signed with CAL, he was at the Pope press conference,
he started some games, and I do think that maybe
changed all of those things his expectations a little bit.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
I think so on like I said yes day, wish
and Travis have a due over because he was just
forced to play when he maybe he wasn't ready yet.
I still think he's gonna be a really good player
down the road. He just wasn't ready to play SEC
guards point guard in the SEC last year, especially starting man.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah, yah, he probably wasn't. Who's up next, Brennan? Go ahead, Brennan.

Speaker 8 (29:58):
Hey, I just had a few questionstions about the revenue
sharing court case. That's that they're deciding right now. Okay,
one could what happens to all the NIL agreements once
they finally decide that do all of those go away?

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (30:17):
All the NIL agreements as of this moment are one
year agreements, right, so like they just go away because
they're over. I think what's going to happen in the
future is that some of that's gonna change and some
of these agreements are going to be longer and it'll
be a little different. But like, if you're asking, are
there agreements that occur right now that'll be void? I do.

(30:40):
I think the answer to that is no. These schools
have known this as coming. I think they've signed agreements
to make sure that they will work for the coming year. Gotcha?

Speaker 8 (30:51):
Okay? And second, once they do decide, once that case
is over, could it be a appealed? You know?

Speaker 4 (31:01):
Further well, this is not. No, probably not, because this
is what's called a class action lawsuit and they are
in the settlement proceedings, right, So both parties agree this
is what they want.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
They just have to get the judge to approve it.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
So if the judge approves it, there's nobody to appeal
it because both sides agree. The issue is got you again.
Law is complicated and nerdy, but but the issue is this,
this lawsuit is going to settle the claims for everyone
that has ever played college basketball football in the past,
and the NCAA want and the wants this to become

(31:41):
the rules for the future. But what is almost certain
to happen is the next year of players, somebody's going
to sue and say, yeah, you may want that, but
I wasn't part of that settlement, so it doesn't apply
to me. And they're probably going to be right, which
is why Congress has to pass the legislation. Because if

(32:02):
Congress doesn't pass the legislation, and that's why I don't
really believe in Trump's commission, it's not gonna be legal
without congressional legislation. And that's why you see Nick say,
that's why you see Tommy Tuberville and these guys Ted Cruz,
Corey Booker trying to get something passed, and they need
to get it passed before recruiting starts for real in

(32:24):
the late summer and fall. And we'll see, sir, whether
or not it happens.

Speaker 8 (32:29):
Got you, Okay?

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Thanks? Does that make sense now? I can tell by
your face it doesn't make sh When he takes a
deep breath like that, that means he had no idea
what I was talking like. He just first of all,
actually I know exactly what that deep breath meant. You
tuned out.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
I'm trying to understand it. It's just way comic case.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
I'm gonna try real easy, all right, There's been a
lot Dante played football back in the day.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
He did, he didn't get any money. He didn't get
any money.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
This lawsuit goes back for all that money. Actually won't
get any because he's so old he wasn't even in
the class. But this takes all the players that were
exploited in the past. If they if the judge agrees
to this settlement, they'll get a check for X amount
of money and then they're.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Done done going forward.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
The NCAA is saying, we're gonna apply these rules going forward,
but there's gonna be some player that says that's not legal,
and they're gonna sue, and in my humble legal opinion,
they're gonna win. And so the NCAA knows that, and
so they're trying to get Congress to pass a law
that says, hey, these parameters we agreed to, let's make

(33:37):
that the law going forward. And I think it's probably
gonna happen, but it needs to happen quickly, and nothing
in Congress happens quickly.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
So like all these prayers have to sign contracts like
some sort of legal binding.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
They already do, it's just some of them don't get inforced.
But what's gonna happen is the university has twenty two
million dollars. I'm recruiting Mario. Wanna say, Mario, out of
this twenty two million dollars, I'm giving you five hundred
thousand dollars, you at the University of Kentucky are gonna
sign a deal with this LLC. We just created that.

(34:11):
Mitch and them created a couple weeks ago, and it says,
if you play here for two years, I'll give you
five hundred thousand dollars a year. It'll just be a contract.
You'll be an independent contractor like my wrestlers are in
OVW And then that's that, and then we'll go to
somebody else. But there'll be a cap of twenty two

(34:32):
million dollars. Now, if ks Barr wants to sign Mario
to one hundred thousand dollars deal, I'm still allowed to
do that. But under the new rules, what I can't
do in theory is say, Mario, if you are in
high school and come to Kentucky, ks bar will give
you one hundred thousand dollars that now will be banned.
In theory, whether or not that will be enforced, we'll

(34:53):
have to wait and see. I have very little faith
if that gets enforced. Years.

Speaker 6 (34:59):
Yeah, with the money from the University of the twenty
two million, and then businesses will still be paying people.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
I think a lot of people agree with you about that,
but that's the idea.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
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It is Kentucky Sports Radio EF. I'm nine two eight
oh twenty two eighty seven. What person rates man? I

(35:54):
love to listen in the spring because I get to
hear birds chirping in the back of that like it's
the masters. That's true. When we open up this gate,
you get to hear birds outside.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
They're louder than usual. You know, I'm the bird whisper
on the show. I usually corralled them, get them outside.
I feel like we've got an army in there today
on the patio. Can I play something exciting?

Speaker 5 (36:11):
I'm ready to hear.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
I hope this translates on the radio. Okay, watch the video? Okay, So,
uh you know I love the environments of European soccer,
Yes you do. Okay, So they and you know, they
take teams and they get promoted and relegated, right, they
go up and they go down?

Speaker 5 (36:26):
All right?

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Now in Britain they're playing the games that decide who
gets to go up. Okayund sir, turn.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
Keep it down just a minute if you're gonna see
just okay.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Sunderland was playing Coventry City. Okay, okay, Sunderland plays in
the Stadium of Light. I've been to the Stadium of Light.
It is when it's lit up, it is beautiful.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
It's a beautiful stadium.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Mark, it is beautiful. It is a stadium of lot.
Is it special. I'm not gonna say that, but it's
very nice. They were playing yesterday. It is tied to too.
The winner moves on. There are thirty seconds left. Guy
kicks a corner kick. They score goals. Sunderland is now
going to the finals to get to move up. This

(37:09):
was the scene yesterday. Ryan at the Stadium of Light.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
Okay, the fair takes the corner.

Speaker 9 (37:20):
Blood that's on. I don't play on our pristas owns.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
If I thought it's been.

Speaker 9 (37:35):
A nights Thurman a two legs, we hope.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
Oh my goodness, unbelievable.

Speaker 9 (37:47):
Saint fling understanding of rights.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
I'm having a.

Speaker 9 (37:51):
Saint Saint fly its.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
L How do you love that?

Speaker 4 (37:54):
I love it?

Speaker 5 (37:55):
At the Stadium of Light. Love every second. He just screamed,
that's all I did.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Scream His hero was on fire.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Oh it was awesome.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
I have no idea who either one of those teams are,
but I loved every second of that.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
That was in fantastic, in fantastic, that's right, it was
the Stadium of life. You need to see the video.
You want to talk about a stadium losing their minds,
I mean, Shannon, you see the video there. People are
going insane, all the players take their shirts off, everyone.
I mean, people are losing their minds. That's what I

(38:27):
like about sports. I would have loved to last night
have been to the stadium lights. I saw ESPN had
his number two play in the top ten yesterday.

Speaker 6 (38:35):
As well, American commentary doesn't have enough high pitch screening.
We've got some great, great, great commentators. I like a
good Mike Breen bang in the NBA, but we need
some people to just absolutely lose their minds when things
happens in games. I love hearing that European soccer. Yes
I even know what they said. They were just squealing
fake rock. Hoffers said that was screaming leech.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
That definitely was screaming Leach. Okay, one other thing, and
then we're gonna We're gonna go to a little basketball.
Some good news for some guys in the draft. For
UK there's a TikTok right now. That's going viral. Who
would win in a fight one hundred British people or
one hundred Americans? Since we're talking about the Stadium of Light,

(39:16):
put one hundred Americans or one hundred British into a
fist fight? Who would win? I thought a lot. I
thought too much about this for a grown man. Who
do you think would win?

Speaker 5 (39:30):
Picking the Americans? Of course? Why our colors don't run?

Speaker 4 (39:33):
That's a stupid answer.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
But why what?

Speaker 4 (39:34):
But like, do you have any reason beyond America?

Speaker 5 (39:38):
I think I think our American guys can kind of
be a little more sneaky and cheat and win in
a fight, a fist fight.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Sneaky and cheat, yes, okay, yeah, yeah, it's a great answer.
Really national pride too. We we cheat and are sneaky more.
What about you? You know we already won a good
war against them.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
The lead.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Actually wrote two, we're eight team twelve. I think we're
up too.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
Oh for that reason, I think I'm going the other way.
I think the pressure is on there. Whoa the we
come in with an arrogance, you know, we wear those
shirts world the champs and all that. We think we're
the best at everything, and then in their sports their
fans are fighting in the crowd. I feel like they
fight a lot there. So I think we lose Game
three in this segment.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
I'm betting you must win situation when you're down to oh, exactly,
what about you?

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, I'm just gonna say the same thing about the war.
I mean, I feel like we already had this fight.
We won, so we went again.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
I think.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Okay, so you're like, why not we went off with
the Yeah. The key part of this is fist fight.
They don't have guns, right, they don't. They're called they
don't have it's a gunfight. Nobody's beating America in a
gun fight. We are, we are gun rific. But I
don't know how many people have been to Britain. I've

(40:50):
seen how many fist fights they have. They fight all
the time. It's like Clay County. Everybody fights. You know. Now,
if it's one hundred Apple at Jens, I'm taking America money. Okay,
I'm taking one seed. You give me one hundred people
from Clay County. Brits don't stand a chance. But you
just take random Americans and random Brits. They fight more.

(41:14):
They go to pubs. Part of the culture they got
a lot of rowdies. There are a lot more working
class most of them than a lot of America is.
So you just take one hundred random people. I'm taking
the British, but you take one hundred Appalachians. Yeah, that's
a different situation. I'm taking one hundred British over one
hundred random Americans. But if I get to pick the

(41:37):
Americans and I get to pick the British, then I'm
taking the America.

Speaker 6 (41:41):
If it's like a symbol, you're Avengers team of Americans. Yes, yeah, okay,
I get to pick.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
You know, if I get to pick like twenty people
from Appalachia, twenty people from the city, you get a
region where they do lottery. Like you give me twenty
people from New York, you give me twenty people from
the Deep South. That's a different situation. But you know,
I get twenty people from out here in the streets
of Lexington, and they're going up against people from Liverpool.
Forget it. We got no chance, Silicon Valley. We're in trouble.

(42:10):
You kidding, We're done. If I get what Ben Shapiro
I mean, I got, I got no chance. If I can, like,
come on, but you give me one hundred people from
Clay County.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
I'll take us all day long.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
That's right. If I'm nine, twenty two eighty seven, we're
gonna take a break. We'll be right back. This is
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