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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
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here's Matt Jones.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Well, welcome everyone in Kentucky Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Wednesday, May the twenty first, Ime Matt Jones here at
the KS Bar and Grill in Lexington, Kentucky, where it's
an overcast but nice day out after storms U last
evening you can gives a shout. It is Ask Anything Wednesday, Shannon.
People can ask any question they want unless I say no.
Nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, So go

(01:00):
ahead and get on. I'll take calls early. I'm not
going to do like I did last time, Shanning and
leave with Bob and James.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
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Speaker 4 (01:07):
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Speaker 3 (01:13):
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Speaker 4 (01:16):
Shout out here before we start today, Ryan, this is
Larry's eighty eighth birthday.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Oh it is. This is eighty eighth. Wow, So happy
birthday to Larry.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
He is in uh in, Illinois at Wheaton College where
my mom is in her first week of school getting
her doctor doctor of medicine or doctor of messon only
she's going to med school doctor of religion graduate degree today.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
This was her first week of school and she is here.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
You're probably gonna go out and really party hard tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
I did that last night because tonight is a dinner
at a professor's house. So they did that my last night.
They had the wild birthday. So happy eighty eight, yeah
to Larry. Doesn't look a day over fifty.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
It's true.

Speaker 6 (02:00):
A happy birthday to Larry. It's or they're gonna have
a great time. I get wild. Have you even break
out the bass? Play a little music on it.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
You might break out the beast. You know, Larry's having
to get used to a different setting. He's been in
Middlesborough for fifty plus years and he's having to get
used to Every few weeks they're they're gonna be.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
At Wheaton College.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
He's like seeing the world in his eighth I guess
what ninth decade?

Speaker 6 (02:22):
Some people slow down. He's like, let me see more.
I want to see what this Wheaton College is all about.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
We can only hope and pray that at eighty eight
years old, we're as good as a condition as Larry
is today.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
We won't be, I can there's no You can hope
and you can pray, but it is guaranteed probably no
one in this group will.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
So where is Wheaton, Illinois.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
It's like a little southwest of Chicago. Okay, I think
that would be where it is. I'm on the air
right now. We'll do that in a minute.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven had some
big news to yesterday.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Oh you did no Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Oh big news.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
I thought you said you had some big news.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
I guess it was a big news for met too.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, I mean I wasn't really excited about it.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
But besides that, Kentucky gets there, it gets a commitment
in at the end of the session.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, they end up.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
With the thirty fifth ranked player in America, Braden Hawthorne,
who picks Kentucky over West Virginia and Pitt Drew.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
You know, I would say, in the history of basketball,
I'm not sure there's.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Ever been a better fourteenth player to commit to a team.
I'm gonna go on record say best fourteenth man commitment
in the history of college basketball. Now, part of that
is because you mostly can only have thirteen players, but nevertheless,
I'm still confident in saying.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
It is bald Pope was able to convince a guy
who had a huge spring and big offers with the
potential to play right away, and he's convinced him to
just come here and just see what happens in your
first year and then break out your second year. I'll
add at thirteen fourteen, they have a McDonald's All American
and Michael Marino. You have a seven foot one Rehese
Potter who played in Miami, Ohio. That is the end

(04:00):
of your bench, So there's not a three deep into
the bench. Better than Kentucky's both Hawthorne. I mean, offensively,
he looks great. He puts a little weight on, and
if he could even do it the summer, you might
see him play earlier. But once he gets a little
more physical, he's going to be trouble. I should have known.
I'm kind of mad at myself at missing the hint.
Do you remember you know what the hint was that
we were getting this kid?

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Well?

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Was it that they postponed the interview with Pope one day? Remember,
he didn't want to do it until the roster was complete.
We were going to tape it yesterday at two thirty.
Now we're taping it today at two thirty. And when
they asked me to tape it a day later, they
just said it would be better. And then the commitment
was last night. How did we not think he said that?
They said he didn't want to do it until after

(04:42):
the roster was finalized, and he was waiting for the
roster to be finalized.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
I'm an idiot for not coming up with that. Yeah,
you're not an idiot. We're just slipping, we're just sipping
a little bit. We should have caught that. But I
think it speaks a lot for this kid. I mean,
obviously he knows the roster, he looked at it. For
him to go ahead and accept this spot knowing there's
not a lot of minutes out there right O way,
I want to just grow and learn it, get better,
stronger for maybe the next couple of years. I think
it says a lot about the kid.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
He said during the interview something to the effect of
Drew that he's cool with not playing if that's how
it ends up, happy that he knows that's part of it,
which usually don't hear people say that, Yeah, is that good?

Speaker 6 (05:16):
Great attitude.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
You know.

Speaker 6 (05:17):
I don't know anything about him personally, but just the
fact that he would commit to that those that circumstances
says he will appreciate being here and understands the path,
not gonna rush anything or complain about playing time. Seems
like he has the right h.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Tell us about him as a player.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
He's really skinny. I think that's why it's gonna be
a while. But he's six eight really good score. Like
I said, he blew up in the spring. He was
barely top hundred until the spring session. He had a
bunch of good games against good talent, but putting weight
on him will be his his main priority because I
think he's listed at one eighty. I'm not sure he's
one eighty. If you look at him on.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Filter, he's any like what he is.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
He's six six eight six' eight one eighty is, yeah
he's really, skinny and the list in one eighty means
he's probably less than one. Eighty the best thing about
him is did you see the picture of him go
viral where when he was a kid he got his
picture with The Joey hall. Statue he's A kentucky. Fan
he's sitting over there.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
At the lodge and those chairs if he's In West, Virginia,
yeah not too far. Away so that was pretty neat
that came. Out but great offensive. TALENT i can't get.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Over six eight one, Eighty Like i'm just trying. To
i'm just trying to fathom how skinny that. Is that
would be, like, oh that's very.

Speaker 6 (06:24):
Skinny so getting some getting some weight on him will
be a priority.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
ONE i, mean you weigh one, eighty don't.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
YOU i, wait two twenty probably close to, To.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
So take me and give me about. What, yeah but
you're nine inches shorter and you're you're Little i'm not.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Little, well you're kind of little to be.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Fair, WELL i mean it's gonna Be. Mario it's been.
Working what do you? Weigh what do you? Weigh? Yeah?
Yeah and how?

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Tall and how tall are? You so you're you're one
Forty shannon's five to eleven one, eighty so THAT i,
mean maybe is skinnier Than.

Speaker 6 (07:08):
Mario let's, say uh if If mario is, TALLER i
think we're looking At hawthorne right, there and he's got The.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Mario now if that makes me feel, better Because mario
is an elite athlete at five at five, BUCKET i
could see him getting, Buckets so NOW i feel better about.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
It you can't see he getting, Buckets, NO i cannot see.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
You i'll see you getting no. Buckets as a matter of,
FACT i can see you getting negative.

Speaker 6 (07:29):
Bucket while his uh weight is a little bit of
an issue right, away his wingspan is. Outrageous it's like
seven to. Three so he's got. It he's got the,
potential he's got a pro. Build once he bulks, up
gets a little older and gets in the. System so
do you expect him to move at a good? Game
you expect him play at all this year or, like
is this uh? This you, know do you think he
ends up in that twelve thirteen to fourteenth.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
SLOT i, mean he'll get some, minutes BUT i don't
think there's gonna be a lot of minutes out. THERE
i think the transformation will see from all three of
the freshman him And jasper And malachi once again in
the weight, program getting weight on all three of. THEM
i think year two be a big jump for all of.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
THEM i don't know if we're gonna get a year
two out Of. JASPER i, MEAN.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
I feel LIKE i feel Like i'm the person saying, you,
guys remember right that this dude went to, overtime that
this dude's had cameras following for two, years that this
dude's really LIKE i feel like people just forget.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
THAT i, mean he's here two.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Years that'd be, great but it'll only be because he
gets a huge nildal.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Likely, yeah he he. Is he is the kind of
athlete that could be a one and. Done would you
agree with?

Speaker 7 (08:33):
That?

Speaker 3 (08:33):
YEAH i mentioned that.

Speaker 6 (08:34):
Yesterday as long As jasper can show he can, DEFEND i,
mean he's already a knockdown, shooter got a good offensive,
game they'll only get. Better the only question mark IS
i he'll be able to handle going up another level
in basketball and the Sec you, know it'll get. Physical
if he can hold his on, THERE i think he'll
be fun.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Well so big get For kentucky and. Congrats now we're
Interviewing Mark pope this. Afternoon you And mario are going over, early,
right so let's talk about what has to happen because
You're i'm putting you in charge of.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
This, okay, okay you you were gonna go over.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Early.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yep you have to get the radio equipment because we
have to connect to the. Building do you have? Everything?
Yep what? All do you?

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Need everything we're we're using right.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Now always explain to people because they can't see what
that was OUR.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
I got our comrex unit which connects to the. Station
can't connect anywhere in the country as long we can
get a signal right.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Now, connected as long as we can get a. Signal.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
Yeah So i've got a hardline option And i've got
a cell card. Option i'll have both, options Whichever i'll
try to probably try the cell card, option.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Which you have our EMERGENCY max sitting right over.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
There we have something in theory that allows us to
connect to like it's only for media companies like to
get cell service maybe when you can't, otherwise, right you
have that, right.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
Because when we tried to Do patino last, summer we
couldn't get connected inside the. Building we had to go
out on the on the on the. Sidewalk so TODAY
i think it's partially true.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Saying and there was another part of, that which was
we couldn't get the cell, signal But ryan had forgotten
the extension chord for the for the hard line, internet
so that was Part so you were partially correct we
couldn't get the cell, phone but you did forget the other.
Part SO i want to we're gonna get that this.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Time, well the hard LINE i had last time was
not long. Enough we had to want to go all
the way into the office AND i didn't. Mind wasn't
long enough to do.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
That so is this one long?

Speaker 5 (10:16):
Enough that one over there is long?

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Enough, Okay so that one's long, enough so we have.
That Then, mario you're gonna set up the. Cameras are you?
Ready He shannon AND i asked him this, morning please
don't film from the. Ground people don't need to see
mine In pope's thighs as we're, SAYING.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
I don't want to see any skin on your.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Own, look, YEAH i Mean i'm Told pope's gonna be
in workout, gear SO i don't want. TO i don't
think we both need to. Be you, know this is,
wingsday not five. Day here a ks Par so hopefully
that'll work.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
TOO i believe In.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
RYAN i didn't know this about the cord last, time
but you said you had. One just wasn't long, enough
right that coun that Can i'm gonna blame The Craft
center for. That but it sounds like he's got his checklist,
today got a collared shirt, on looking. Good this will
be the longest interview in theory that we've we've ever
done with the coach we've.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Had we've Had callan, here but he always had that
thirty minute limit because he was not gonna sit through
a commercial.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Break you remember about he would he would.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
He was Like shanning get him with a heart. Break
he would say to me.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
When he was gonna come, on he would, Go i'll,
stay But i'm not sitting through a commercial. Break so
the understanding, was, oh he was a little dvate about.
It the understanding was we had to take all the
breaks at the, end and that basically gave us twenty
minutes with.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Him that was the maxkuy AND i don't Think stoop
has Been stoop has been on longer than that either
has he has he?

Speaker 6 (11:33):
Been, actually this last, one there was a long. One
last one was just a few weeks.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Ago it was like three.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Segments the three.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
Segments yea even Said i'll stay as long as you need.
Me that was the best part of the interview was
the commercial breaks as. Well remember we had off air.
Conversations good for.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Him you were, THERE i mean you were.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
There, YEAH i just don't remember a lot of though
this like we like, you like we're telling you a new.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
Story, well it's good to refresh my memory on those.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Things, okay, well, good Well i'll change my opinion about
how this is going to go. Today he doesn't remember.
That So i'm trusting. You got, you you, Are you're in,
charge and then you'll you're gonna make it work Because
i'm gonna be at the studio Interviewing ryan McGee for the,
podcast and so this is this is in your.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
Hands, YES i get, THERE i got.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
YOU a big day of.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
INTERVIEWING i, Know I'm i've gone from never interviewing anybody
to this is the gonna Be you got Jaylen low
tomorrow on. Here that got pushed back, Today Mark, Pope
ryan McGee yesterday Interviewed Crystal.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Ball we're talking to too many people at. You i'm
used to only talking to you. All and that was flip.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Five, hey If i'm nine, two eight oh twenty two eighty,
Seven we're gonna take a. Break we are here at
KOs bar and grill ask Anything. Wednesday this Is Kentucky Sports.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Radio welcome. Back it Is Kentucky Sports.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Radio If i'm nine, two eight oh twenty two eighty,
Seven wings Day Dollar wings here. Today got some folks
here already to try and thank. You someone door dashed
us Uh spalding. Donuts thank you to uh whoever bought.
Them what was the person?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Name?

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Jacob jacob g just send? It how nice is that
to send door dash of donuts here to the bar. People,
Uh we're gonna do the, contest the donut contest In.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
June end Of.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
June Well spawning is not just a number one seed
in the, Contest they're the overall number one seed in
the oh they're number one for, you overall number.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
One it's gonna be a blind taste, test, though so
you're gonna you could end up picking A Maryland Baltimore
county and not even knowing that you did.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
It it's gonna be tough to knock off the spauling
king of The, Hill king of the Donut.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Hill yeah it.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Is it is very very, good one person Writes, matt
with this being our fourteenth, player does that mean no walk?

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Ons?

Speaker 4 (13:38):
DREW i think under the new settlement it's unlikely we'll
see a walk on. AGAIN i think the days of
walk ons, are you, know maybe sadly.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
OVER i don't.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Think, YEAH i don't think football or basketball under the
new scholarship ways is gonna be able to do walk.

Speaker 6 (13:56):
ONS i guess the dream is. Dead you, know there's
been a lot of remember, well some appreciated, it like
Some Sam, malone others didn't. LIKE i think about my
Guy zach From madisonville last. Year that scenario probably won't happen.
Again so that is something that will stink in the
changes that are.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Come, yeah we'll.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
STINK i think it's really you're really gonna see the
effect in football because sometimes the football guys could end
up making it to where they. PLAYED i, Mean Charles
walker is an, example the guy who started as a
walk on and ended up being a good Play can
you think of other ones in football started as walk,
ONS i mean in, Basketball Robbie moss.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Started as a walk.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
On phil call in recent years he basically turned the
walk ons on to the friends of his kid, played
which you, KNOW i, mean you couldn't get mad at
because they weren't gonna play. Anyway but it didn't because
originally walk ons were, like, well you're not not good
enough for a, scholarship but you're a good. Player we're
gonna bring you. Here for the most, part col's were

(14:53):
with like the exception Of Jared, polson they were guys
he was friends with their. Dad, yeah and that's some
of those dudes didn't even play in high school and
they ended up ON UKs.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
Team So holsten ended up having being a scholarship.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Player yeah in the, end but he started that route of,
well not quite good enough for, scholarship but we'll bring
you and then he earned WHAT i like.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
The and especially in, football when they surprised the, GUYS
i got a practice that they always go. Crazy was in?
Basketball it Was Cameron, mills a walking he was L.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Mills was a walk. On, well who are the best walk?
Ons Camer mills might be number.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
One, Yeah cameron And robbie the two come to. Mind
you Know todd's. Fiboda he was a walk, on but
he was a good.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
PLAYER i mean he had played At Northern right and
played well and then he transferred here and played like
one year or two.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Whatever he was good.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
Though trying to think of some other Basketball my favorite
walk on story is a guy by the name Of
Yeremiah bell From Clark county walked on THE eku football,
team ended up playing for The Miami, dolphins ended up
in THE nfl as a walk on AT.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Eku it's pretty. Good, well the guy From iowa or
was At IOWA O High. State there was the first
round pick that started as a walk. On one of
those linebackers this.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Year it's.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Amazing so so, anyway that is.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
A Bummer drew about the news is the days of
walking on for your dream are probably.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Going.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
Now we're just gonna have to yell shoot at a
scholarship player that's getting paid when it'll want to be
a little bit. DIFFERENT i think who's up.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
First let's go To.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Jerry, jerry go, Ahead jerry eight five nine twenty two eighty,
seven ask Anything, Wednesday today's the day if you don't
call much to come and give your.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Thing go, Ahead, jerry hey man do.

Speaker 7 (16:25):
To ryan was Having. Nico but If tennessee got kicked
out of THE sec over there nil smanigans and starting
all this nil bullcrap With nico and tampering and everything,
else that will be so. Sweet Don day and her
clowns and knoxall Got tennessee kicked out of THE. Sec
that will be, sweet poetic JUSTICE i would love and

(16:47):
the go. Ahead and that was to say is and
it kind of a funny thing Fun you, know it's
fun to listen To tennessee's postgame show after they lose.
Is they were crying last year After Ohigo state game
About Ohio state spending thirty million dollars on the. Roster,
well guess what guys you, got Mister, powett old billionaire down.
There But Ohio, state you got thirty guys like. That,
Yes texas has forty or fifty worked.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
UP i won't leave you. THERE i appreciate the. Call
he's getting worked. UP i do think it would be
hilarious If tennessee got kicked out of THE sec because
of this of this state. Law, NOW i do not
think it's gonna. HAPPEN i do not think that it
is likely to. Happen matter of, FACT i think it
is extremely. Unlikely but it would be. Hilarious drew AND
i would be rooting it.

Speaker 6 (17:30):
On it is fun to dream about them just leaving
THE sec and not having a place to. Go maybe
they're like a barnstorming tour that just goes Around tennessee
all the time and plays Local tennessee. Teams BUT i
don't think it will actually get to that.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
POINT i don't, either BUT i am STILL i have
yet to read a story that has explained why they
passed that state, law because clearly they did it to
try to basically get to do whatever they want and THE.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Sec you don't REMEMBER i said on this Show, money
this is. Dangerous this is the kind of thing that
can ruin.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
THE.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Ncaa and it seems like the other conferences saw it
as well and immediately tried to put a kebash on.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
It that's the best, THING a part of all the
powerful conferences have joined together and agreed that this is
we're not gonna stand for, this you, Know, tennessee let them. Go,
WELL i don't know what they're gonna. Play LIKE i said,
yesterday they go'na play. Conference, essay what are you gonna?
Do you need THE.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
Sec, WELL i.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Don't, yeah it's so ridiculous that it's almost hard to.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Fathom but THEY i mean the sec that if you
read that, document they were, like you will sign this
and if you don't sign this, school you're.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
OUT i, mean it's kind of, amazing isn't.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
It they've always been, terrible but it seems like here
lately they've really just been, like we're not biden by the.
Rules even WHEN ni offers, started they're bragging about all
the money they're paying playing players and just openly doing
the collective. Thing just seems like they've been more defiant
than any other college athletics program in.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Years what do you think About Zakai ziegler who Hit,
zakaizigler who has played in college for.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Twelve, years has asked THE ncaaa for another.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Year he has sued THE, ncaa saying that the four
year ban basically your four. Year thing is not enough
that legally he should be able to play college basketball
forever if he wants, to as long as the school lets.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Him in Another tennessee attempt at the, rules what do
you think about this ignoring?

Speaker 6 (19:30):
EVERYTHING i, mean there's some crazy situations where guys are
in school way too, long but there's at least been
injuries or red. Shirts he's played thirty four games a
season for four. Years he's third all time on the
SEC's assist. List he has had a full career without
injuries or missing any. TIME i don't even know what
his argument, is but It's tennessee. Behavior here's what it.
Is you can get another.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Year his, argument WHICH i think will, Fail but his
argument is college basketball is basically a monopoly for academic.
Basketball right, NOW i can be paid in. It you
cannot be not monopoly without being. Paid and as long
as this school wants to let me come to, school

(20:11):
has an academic whatever for me to do the N,
ncaa you should not be able to ban me from
playing sports as long As tennessee wants me to go to. School,
NOW i think that's not gonna work for a variety
of legal. REASONS i think it's different than the question
of whether you get. Paid but if anybody was gonna
push the, envelope of course it would Be. Tennessee and
it feels like it would be someone Like Zakai, zigler

(20:33):
who was extremely frustrating and you, know one of those
dudes that if he's not on your, team you're.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Like come.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
On it's also confusing to. ME i mean the people
are getting extra years FOR, covid getting extra years for,
injuries getting extra years for playing junior, colleges getting extra
years for sitting out of family. EMERGENCIES i, mean it's.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Like, guys what's confusing about all that people are.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
Getting like six or seven years.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Regardless WELL, COVID i MEAN, covid everybody got a.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Year so that's that's one. Answer so could he he
didn't play OUR, covid though he's AFTER.

Speaker 6 (21:05):
Covid he has had a he's started since he was.
Afraid he's played in one hundred and thirty eight. Games
he has had a very actually more than a normal.
Career like he should absolutely go get a job and
let the freshman come in and play. Basketball, yeah, remember
so he has no unique. Circumstances THE covid year was
twenty twenty twenty twenty. One, okay so it was that.
Year we have had four seasons since. That ziegler did

(21:29):
not play that, year so he is all of his
four seasons were not IN, Covid so he has no
argument FOR.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
COVID i have not seen that he has a family.
Emergency as you, Said, drew he was never. Injured he
is just saying college basketball should let me play as.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Long AS i want to.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Play like he's the guy in The roses parking lot
who keeps hanging out with the high, schoolers right like
he he wants to play, forever and THE ncaa someone
was gonna challenge.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
This it turns out it's going to be.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
Here he's like ranked for the most games ever played At.
Tennessee he's like one of their all, time just you,
know played the most and he still wants to.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Play would you like to have it.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Where people could play college basketball? FOREVER i, mean would
you like it to Where austin She waite could have
played until he was?

Speaker 6 (22:13):
Thirty, no because the new guys need a. Chance we
don't Need we already have a few thirty year. Olds
we don't need more play four. Years if you got,
her we'll settle it and then get the hell out
here and get a.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Job get a.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Job, WELL i mean, again their argument would, be this
is a. JOB i can make more money doing this
THAN i can do WHAT i was going to do. Next, Right,
well our argument is.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Cool.

Speaker 6 (22:36):
Leave there are other people waiting for your.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Spot but we got a quarterback who's coming in for seven.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
Years we.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Do our quarterback is going to be a seventh.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Year ye all those fifth year guys we had on
the basketball team last, year we like.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Them, yep, yeah all, right we'll take a. Break very.
Bad IT'S. KSR.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Tj, smith personal injury attorney CALLED.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Tj he'll make them pay.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Now Kentucky Sports radio presented By Stockton. Mortgage Here's Matt.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Jones welcome Back Tucky Sports.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Radio If i'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty,
seven there's some people telling me That Zaka ziegler did
one year TEARS, acl but he played half the, year you're.
NOT i don't think you're allowed when YOU i don't
know what the percentage of. Games it's got to be
a very small amount of games for it to not
count towards your. YEAR i don't if he played half the.
Year that would not that he would have played too.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Much to get.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
It he's played at least thirty games every. Season he
averages thirty four and a half games a. Year SO
i don't think that's.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
True, no well a bunch of people said. It do
you think all these people are lying to?

Speaker 6 (23:31):
Me he has one hundred and thirty eight career games
in four.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Seasons, yeah so if you go four that you're. Right,
yeah that's. So then once you tell these people to, Hunt.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
No, well let's Tell zakay to get a. Job he.
Graduated he has a degree in merchandise and retail. Management
go out and manage the retail merchandise.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Is, YES i looked it. UP i didn't really need
to get this retail, merchandise, MAN i mean to be
honest with. YOU i feel like there's retail and merchandise
that needs to be.

Speaker 6 (23:58):
Managed, yeah we've already seen he was a point, guard
AND i go out there and show us what you
can do with that?

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Degree makes?

Speaker 4 (24:03):
SENSE i think that. Right all, right we missed some walk. On,
Okay Anthony epps was a walk?

Speaker 5 (24:08):
On forgot? It you really?

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Was start?

Speaker 4 (24:11):
With Anthony epps was was a really good walk. On
somebody is telling, me Was Jeff brasso a lot walk
on his first? Year if he, was it was one
of those things where he just agreed to do it
because he was he, was he was.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Highly, recruited, Right, YEAH i can't confirm that.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
One Neamiah Junior, Brad, yeah he was on my list
baseball player to play, Baseball, Yeah Junior brady. Was he
was on like What patino's first. Team so, yeah, yeah
so uh those are. Good Anthony epps is one you'll.
Forget that's that's the best, one, right.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
Yeah and there's fact there was something even with, that
like he got a scholarship the next, year promised a
scholarship next year or something like.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
That that may have been. TRUE i, DO i do
vaguely remember. That he was so just real.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Quick thank you to everybody that subscribed to The Matt jones.
Podcast it it hit, overnight number, one is the number
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Yes, now granted they when they do thank you very,
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First NOW i don't know if the other one rose
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Ones so but even it's the first time we've had
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Speaker 4 (25:23):
One SO i took the. SCREENSHOTS i always have it
of this number one and pardon my take number. Two
Texted Big cat and, said there you. Go look who's
look who'sumed ahead of. You but that was very nice
people and people seem to have enjoyed, it so thank
you very. Much so the next episode party taped. It
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Today ryan McGee will come out, tonight, okay and Then
Crystal ball will come out after we aired on w
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Speaker 5 (25:52):
Thursday her name is Really Crystal.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Ball, yes her name Is Crystal.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
Ball her parents had a weird hit of. Humor are
you name their kid Crystal? Ball what's your brother's?

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Name?

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Basket you hear the silence after these. Jokes you're not
even getting a chuckle From. Shandon you give all of
these jokes a. CHUCKLE i was.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
Holding Back ryde.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Trying it's not good When ryan laughs.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
Himself it's my.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Favorite what you have a confidence about the jokes even
if no one else, laughs you will still.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Laugh you can't laugh at?

Speaker 5 (26:33):
Yourself where can you laugh at all at?

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yourself another, another that's another saying that doesn't make. Sense
if you can't laugh at, yourself where can you laugh at? All? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (26:47):
Yourself the?

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Cook, cody go, Ahead, Cody.

Speaker 8 (26:55):
YEAH i have two, things real quick, question what are
the odds That Mark pope run the platoon system with the?

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Squad?

Speaker 8 (27:02):
Zero and the second, thing give a big shout out
to the minika Or facebook path just spread the thousand.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Followers all, right, well thank you very. Much the platoon
system zero? Right? Zero? ZERO i, mean.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
The platoon system was. Cool i'm still not sure that
was the best, decision but it was cool and it
was obviously made us. KNOWN i don't Think pope sort
of operates like, that do?

Speaker 3 (27:30):
You?

Speaker 6 (27:31):
No and definitely not what we're calling this the blue
platoon and this is the white platoon and you're doing
hockey subs. NOW i think the minutes might look like
they're platooning a little. BIT i think a lot of the,
guys especially where they're competing at those same spots where
you don't know who to, start you'll see their, minutes
won't be too far. Apart BUT i don't think we'll
see the all, right five in five out and were
nickname them and you, know you know your team and
they got the other?

Speaker 5 (27:50):
Five did you like? That in?

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Hindsight were You was that something you you look back on?
FONDLY i, mean like all of, us we bought into,
it and you, KNOW i mentioned it on on the internet,
recently almost like saying it didn't, work but that someone
was reminded me they did. Win it did go thirty
one and, oh so it's hard to say it didn't.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
WORK i mean it.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Went they went thirty eight and.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
One and to be fair to cal when we, lost
we didn't run the yeah you know WHAT i, Mean
like they lost as he quit giving the ball To
carl and he wanted shot clock violations.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Instead, yeah but we.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Didn't we didn't platoon the second half of that, game
and we were ahead when we were. Platooning SO i,
MEAN i don't think we can blame the platooning for,
losing but he blamed for. Losing, Yeah but in, hindsight
did you do you like?

Speaker 3 (28:37):
It looking?

Speaker 6 (28:38):
Back my favorite thing about it was you could see
the other team with their hands on their knees and
they would look up at the other five at the.
Scores they were waiting to check in that was, great
and they were. Terrified you could see it in their, face,
like what in the hell is about to? Happen i'm
gasping for air in five fresh legs OF nba players
are about to.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Show that's a really good.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Point it did wear teams down down the stretch and
you and it also could lead where you could beat
teams by just the large margins because they would quit
at the end of.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Games did you like?

Speaker 5 (29:06):
It, yeah looking back, now it seems kind of, ridiculous
but during that TIME i loved, it and you, know
the crowd loved. It we were putting on BLUE t
shirts and WHITE t shirts and the eruptions on whichever
the whatever platoon was in that. Time but you're out
that we all liked it until The wisconsin.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Game so what were the platoons? Again you had the,
Twins Carl willie And Alex.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
Lyles, well, yeahs you're.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Right lyles would start with the first group and then
the second group would Be Booker, Ulyss Alex, Dacari Marcus.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
Lee is that WHAT i don't, remember which was blue
and which was, white but we were all about of
the other. Names it's like he never really mixed up
the fives that often.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Either it's still amazing that that Team Derek, Willison Dominice
hawkins were the eleventh and twelfth. GUYS i mean those are,
dudes FUTURE Sec Tournament All Tournament team and a future
LIKE nba player were the eleventh and twelfth men of.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
THEM i mean next year's team just on, Depth, no
not their potential and star, power but next year teams
just as deep as far as guys that are able
to go in and.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Play, yeah you don't have the the top line talent's
not as. Good, yeah but you're as far as.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
Bodies it's as far as the.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Conversation you're probably. Right who's? Next? Tyler? Tyler If i'm
nine two eight oh twenty two eighty, seven go, ahead.

Speaker 8 (30:15):
Hey, man good to talk to y'all this. Morning. MAN
i tell, YOU I i don't know, why but WHEN
i call into the, SHOW i don't do it a,
ton but it is VERY i get the nerves THAT
i feel WHEN i call into the show is uh.
THERE i don't experience them very. Often why do you?

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Think why do you think calling in makes you? Nervous
are you worried That i'm gonna get upset at? You
Because i'm. NOT i think you're a wonderful, person even
THOUGH i don't know you.

Speaker 8 (30:39):
WELL i appreciate. THAT i think you're a touch intimidating
to talk, to AND i think the fear of getting
interrupted is, real especially for, me AND i would think
a lot of other. People BUT i just, SAID i
don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
You so you Think i'm, uh you Think i'm something
hard to talk, like nervous to talk.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
TO i think people are afraid maybe you'll get into
an oar with, him and you're gonna win the. Argument you,
know you're a great, Debater, yeah easing debate growing.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
UP i knew he normally you you know he was
gonna say something else and he's growing. Up i'm glad
you weren't use the word. Great all, right go, ahead,
Sir i'm no, interruption no intimidation you have.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Before, WELL i.

Speaker 8 (31:19):
Got two, things if you don't. Mind so the first,
THING i know it's so soon to talk about, it
but the twenty fifteen, game the press, Conference Andrew, harrison
y'all talking about what we lost the, Game Andrew harrison
was the one that ended up apologizing saying that he
didn't do what quote Coach kyl told him to do
down the, stretch and Then cal was, like, no you're.
Good SO i GUESS i was always.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Good he was always good about taking up for his
players in those, situations AND i do give him credit for.
That he was not a guy who would ever throw
his player under the bus after a loss or something like.
THAT i appreciate that about. Him what's your second?

Speaker 6 (31:50):
One?

Speaker 8 (31:52):
Yeah and then SO i know it's A manian football
seasons along way away and we haven't heard much from
the team or from any of the staff or anything like,
that BUT i Know. STOOPS i don't really know the
situation with, it BUT i Know stoops is kind of
on the hot, seat or he's been on the hot.
SEAT i didn't know if you could give us the
scenario this year where, okay this.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Happened, yeah, okay so LET'S i appreciate the. Call is
there is there a scenario rhyme where you Think Mark
stoops could be?

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Fired let's use that. Word is there a scenario where
he could be?

Speaker 5 (32:25):
FIRED i guess if the wins aren't there and the
crowd stays. AWAY i think that could lead to Maybe
mitch can least considering.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
It not considering. It is there a situation where he
would Be, YEAH i guess there. Is do you think
there's a situation he could be.

Speaker 6 (32:38):
Fired, aleen, THOUGH i mean it was obvious the fan
base retired Of cal last year and we thought we was,
leaving And mitch had that weird press conference and defendited
right As cow turned around and the. Left So I'm
mitch showed me last. Year he's not gonna be quick
to fire. Anyone If stoops were to win one, game, okay,
maybe but if he's in that four or five, RANGE
i don't Think mitch would do.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
It how much would they owe?

Speaker 4 (32:57):
HIM i mean it's stilling a lot of, yeah a
lot of money in a year where your budget is
increasing by twenty two million. Dollars SO i think firing
is extremely. Unlikely i'm not, Saying i'm not gonna say.
Impossible if he went and won two, games they might
not have a, choice BUT i think it is extremely.

(33:18):
UNLIKELY i do think there's a scenario, though where you
get Where cal had and maybe even, worse where you
get a scenario where it like doesn't feel like he.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Can stay and and and that could. Happen BUT i
think the more likely scenario is.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
This is why it's so important he go to a bowl,
game because if he wins five games or four, games
this fan base is gonna be miserable and he's not
gonna go anywhere, probably and you're just gonna be stuck in, this.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
You, know, malaise which is terrible for everyone.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
INVOLVED i think if it were to go to him,
leaving it would come down and, do, hey we can't
afford your, buyout but we can get this, Club and
he would have to make the decision is that enough
money for me to get because he doesn't want to
be in a toxic environment. Either so say they owe him,
thirty but they're, like we can give you. Eighteen If
stoops hates it so much here that it was so
bad people aren't showing, up maybe he just, says all,
Right i'll take a short discount and go ahead and move.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
On. YEAH i don't.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Know hopefully we don't get to that, point but you
can see a scenario where you know they're over unders
four and a, half, right if you get four or,
FIVE i think we're in this, scenario, right and that's not.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Good.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Yeah that's why when you ask the, question is there a, Possibility,
yeah there is that. Possibility if he lose To toledo
and you win two, games you got to maybe make
some hard decisions because.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
He won't want to be here if it's that. BAD i,
mean nobody would want to.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Live if he wins, two THEN i don't think it's
a hard.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
DECISION i just don't know If mitchell do, it because
you got to find thirty million dollars and where is?
That who's got? It the only person that would even
contemplate paying it is very close To. Stoops, yeah AND
i can't, imagine you, Know so that makes it. Hard
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Speaker 3 (35:54):
Rights.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Matt my wife has started listening to the show in
the last year or. Two she loves, you but she
got very very upset at your comment about not posting
pictures of your kids.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Graduation she actually.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Listened and wrote down your words and, SAID i will
use this Against matt one day when he posts pictures
of his.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Kids, WELL i mean it's not gonna. Happen you get
them on the day they're, born then you don't get them.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Anymore you, know people have gotten mad at, me including
female friends of mine who have. KIDS i had to
look at my Friend tall's kids after they had just
listened to me to say THAT i didn't want to
see pictures of people's, kids AND i had to make
an exception and, go, No natalie And, olivia you all are.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Different you talking.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
About other, kids not THAT i like.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
YOU i was talking about other people's, kids but people
didn't seem to love. THAT i still generally stand by,
it though there's too many pictures of, people you, know
it's also weird to be, like why do you want
to put that out in the world for some? People
because you know it's just but some people.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
Do i've had some people tell me in the last
week you've aged war on their households with the kid
graduation and anti some people's favorite vacation. Spots, yeah AND
i think there was one, more but uh, yeah thank.
You some of your opinions have upset some of the
well they're all upset in, fun but there's always truth
to the fun as.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
WELL i was also surprised how many people wrote me
and said they had gotten on their honeymoon To, orlando like, you,
right that was a more popular honeymoon destination THAN i
would have, imagined BECAUSE i would have imagined it would
be a destination of only shotgun.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Weddings BUT i was wrong about.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
That, NO i mean there's something to. It obviously is
not maybe for, you but it is for a lot
of other, people including myself back in nineteen ninety.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
One so would you go? Now like would you take
yoga girl To? Orlando?

Speaker 5 (37:43):
Now she sent me a text yesterday during this conversation said,
absolutely no way in.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Hell so she's more ON. Arsa yeah, Good i'm. Glad i'm.
Glad we want her back. Over did you?

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Hear yesterday THE Us senate agreed unanimously.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
To the. Provision uh, say no taxes on? Tips.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Unanimously they don't do anything YOU i mean, literally they
don't do anything unanimously unanimously to take away taxes on.
Tips it's not doesn't become law, yet but it probably. Will, Honestly,
uh do you are?

Speaker 5 (38:19):
You do?

Speaker 3 (38:19):
You or are you for?

Speaker 5 (38:20):
That i'm definitely for. That The the minimum wage for
servers and waitresses and hostesses is ridiculously low, anyway this
is the way they make their living basically by, Tips
SO i don't think it's fair to take that away
from them.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Too some pody would argue to, know people and other
jobs still have, taxes but.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
Do they make, Tips like do they like a, barber
do you tip? Them they have to pay taxes on their?
Tip no tips. Anyone but but but that wasn't my.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Point my point is, like if you're if you work in,
construction all of your, self all of the money you
make is is is. Taxed do you think people who
work in restaurants should get the exception that people who
work in construction do not?

Speaker 5 (38:58):
GET i guess if we pay the people in, restaurant
well what they're worth fifteen twenty dollars an hour instead
of two or three dollars an hour got the construction,
workers they're gonna get you, know twenty twenty five an hour.
Whatever so if we pay them, comparably MAYBE i might
say in my, mind but right now we're only getting
two or three dollars an. Hour absolutely don't.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Know about it might make one hundred dollars an, hour, YEAH.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
I MEAN i don't know that that argument's what really
works with what you're, saying because like the reason they
first of, all if you're a server and for whatever,
reason let's say the restaurant's not full and you you
saw owe that person up to minimum, wage so they
don't they make two or three dollars an, hour but
if their tips don't match, it you still have to
pay them minimal, right, Right so that's and, honestly most

(39:40):
servers are gonna.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Make a lot more than, that or or they wouldn't do.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
It the question is just do you believe that servers
should be able to be the one set of people
that don't have their whole incomes taxed.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
Like people that make tips like, That, no they should
not have a Tax.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Okay go. Ahead what about as a former?

Speaker 6 (39:55):
SERVER i was pretty surprised the, past especially BECAUSE i,
mean even though it's set up, different that's still your,
income AND i just feel like your income should be Text,
NOW i will say as a former, server not, me
but occasionally you lie about what you, Made, okay.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
So that gets that gets, Occasionally, Shandon i'll get to
that for.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
It you, KNOW i hate paying taxes in, general but
it's the reality of the, world, Right so IF i
gotta pay, taxes they are probably making more per hour
a lot of times THAN i, Am so why should
they be? EXEMPTED i think they should have to pay
taxes to all.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Right So i'm fine with. IT i actually think it's
a lot closer issue than people act. Like i'm fine
with it, because like you, Said, DREW i think it already.
Happens but here is what is going to. Happen anytime
you have a, rule what do people try to? Do
they're gonna try to exploit, it, right they just. Are

(40:50):
so WHAT i think is businesses are gonna do is
businesses are going to work with people not in the restaurant.
Industry let's just say again like construct and, Say, OKAY
i was going to pay you thirty dollars an, hour
and they'll. Agree i'll tell you what if you'll take
twenty eight dollars an, hour which Means i'll pay less than.
Taxes i'll pay you minimum wage and the rest is

(41:12):
quote unquote a. TIP i think there's going to be
a lot of, businesses depending on how they write, this
that will do. It for businesses that are not normally tipped,
industries the employer will have an incentive to do it
because they won't have to pay as much payroll tax
because it's quote unquote a, tip and the employee is
gonna want it because they don't have to pay taxes

(41:33):
on it at.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
All SO i actually THINK i think it's gonna.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Be i'm still probably for, it BUT i do Think
ryan it gives people, incentives some big incentives to go around.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
The, law because just do you explain. It i'm telling
thinking to, myself it's that's gonna. Happen they're gonna be,
places definitely gonna.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Happen so when when a politician gets up and says
something like no tax on, tips but then when you
actually think about how it's going to actually, happen it
may not be the way you. Think exactly you can
do landscaping, Exactly i'll give you minimum, wage but by the,

(42:12):
way the rest of your money's in a tip and
you don't have to pay taxes on and neither DO.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
I that's gonna. Happen we'll take a break me right.
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