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May 27, 2025 • 42 mins

Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk baseball, interrupting callers, and more.

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Speaker 2 (00:59):
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Speaker 3 (01:05):
Welcome back, I renumber two Kentucky Sports Radio. We'll go
to the phone here in just second eight five nine,
two eighty seven. Shannon says, it sounds funny when I
was wailing there in the first hour for.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
The hell saw he all saw no music.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
That's all right, you know what podcast people, I hope
you enjoyed it. Shannon's a little freaked out, right.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Why's that?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
They've posted a picture around the Louisville I Heart with
a picture of a person saying watch out for this person.
This person has made threats And Shannon just sent me
the picture. And I gotta tell you, Shannon, I wouldn't
have needed no warning. I wouldn't have needed a warning
if I saw that dude. Oh if I saw this
dude right here, oh boy, I think I'd be a

(01:49):
little bit worried too. Yes, So, so do we know
what happened? They said he's made threats to the building. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
I don't want to say on the air, but you
know what he's said. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I mean, you know, he could be listening right now
and get me when I walk out the door.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Oh yeah, you gotta be careful.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Shaneon happen to you, right, can't kidnap me.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
But yeah, that game you see that guy run.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
It's weird when you walk in.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
His face is like plastered on the walls and on
the cabinets in the kitchen, Like, have you seen this man?

Speaker 4 (02:20):
If you have a void him?

Speaker 3 (02:22):
So what do we think he's upset about? You think
it's like, I'm going to be completely I think I
have to have a stereotypical This has got to be political, right,
that's that's a Trumper guy. Yeah, you think he's like
liberal media.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
You know, I don't know which side of the alley's on,
but you can make that assumption if you want. Probably
it probably is political, though I would say, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
I mean no, But that's the only reason you would
get mad at radio station, right would.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Be I think he's a big fan of indianapos five hundred.
Not happy with what you said about it?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Well, luckily I'm in a different city right now, so.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Take it out on me.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
What person rights, Matt? How could you not know about
Pete Rose? You're a Reds fan because I wasn't a
Reds fan back then. I didn't not. I mean, I've
never like the Pete Rose even the Joey Vado thing
like the It's never affected me because I wasn't a
fan then. But when I was reading I'm telling you
this book Charlie Hustle, if even if you're not a

(03:17):
book reader and you just like sports like you will
like it. It goes through his life. I didn't realize
how much Pete Rose was gambling like his whole life, Like,
I didn't realize that. I guess what's the Northern Kentucky
track is that Turfla? Apparently he went to Turfa like
every day, wow, every day, like back then the baseball
games would often be like four in the afternoon, and

(03:39):
then at night he would go to turfay and it
just talked about how and he also like didn't pay
his debts. Part of the problem was part of the
reason he got caught is he owed bookies money all
over the East Coast, and so eventually when these bookies
got brought down, they would turn on Rose because he
owed them all money. I didn't know any of that, Like,
I didn't know how the whole investigation even started. It

(04:02):
was because bookies got caught and they all flipped on
Rose because he owed them like and he would. I mean,
he was a degenerate. He like ran from one bookie
to the other because like there'd be a book like,
I'm not taking your bets anymore because you owe me
so much money.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
And if I remember correctly, these bookies saved the tickets
to show Pete Rose's name betting on the Reds.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
And I didn't realize that. For a lot of their
career he and Johnny Bench were kind of like they
butted hit. Yeah, because like they did, Pete Rose thought
Johnny was considered better than him, and by the end
of their career they got along. But during the early
career they apparently butted heads. And the things he Pete
Rose would say in the media, including some awful things.

(04:45):
I mean he said, I didn't know the history of
kind of sexist, racist stuff he had said. I didn't
realize that. But even also he was just like he'd
just be about to play somebody and go, he's not good.
I'bout a picture he was going to go against the
next day, and he'd be like, yeah, dude's not any good.
You know, when we now see such outrage about what
athletes say, go look at what Pete Rose used to say.

(05:08):
Pete Rose would be about to play a picture and
go to the media and go, yeah, he can't, he
can't strike me out.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
I like that, would you kidding me?

Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I mean way more of that. I don't disagree with you,
but it's funny how outrage people get it modern athletes.
If we then go look at the stuff the guys
said back then, it was like, so it's I think
it's a it's a great book. I have not even
finished it yet, but I read it literally all weekend.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
Well to my reading list. I've heard stories. I feel
like some people locally in the media have told stories
about him being at the track all the time, all
the time, game days fur coats. Can you imagine going
to turf wa and seeing Pete Rose walk in with
a fur coat?

Speaker 3 (05:54):
He doesn't again like the things I thought I knew.
I just think about him with that bowl cut haircut.
But then I realized that when he got the hit
that broke the record, that's one of the first sporting
moments I can remember. Really, it's one of the first.
I'm not sure like eighty four eighty five is when

(06:15):
sports start to come into focus for me. I can
remember the eighty five final four. I remember the eighty
five Bear season, the whole thing. And then I do
remember watching with my grandfather when he got that hit
against Eric Shao and the Padres, and against that he
was about to hit. He had gone like two games
where he didn't get a hit, Like everybody was in

(06:36):
Cincinnati to wait and see what happened. The next night,
he told that he was also the manager. Think about that, like,
can you imagine each your row or not each your row?
Oh Tani also being the manager. He was the manager,
and he said the night before the game, I'll get
it tomorrow. Shall's not good. He's right called.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
It's kind of badass really.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
So anyway, I remember after I got the hit, member
little Pete, his son, ran out to him.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
And greet him a face, said that in the book
you you would love it. This this book was written
for r I'm telling you you would. You would really
love it. Took you know, I kind of stayed offline
all day Sunday, got home Sunday night, got on my phone,
looked and uh they someone had taken a clip of

(07:29):
like ten or eleven seconds of me talking to Pope
and interrupted him at one point. And so me being
the interrupter became a big thing. I feel like you
tell me I'm I'm open to criticism. While it is
correct that I interrupt all the time, I did feel
like with Pope, I didn't interrupt him a lot. Am

(07:49):
I wrong?

Speaker 7 (07:50):
No?

Speaker 1 (07:50):
I sat right there during the whole interview. I thought
you did a good job. I mean you you interrupted
him as a part of a conversation, but not interrupted
him to keep the keep it moving, him talk and
had an expand on a lot of topics.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
He's pretty too, so you let him get his let
him get his thoughts out.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
I didn't see the clip they used against you. I remember,
like when you said about Loville, you chimmed in when
he's like that was yeah, I mean I remember, I
remember you like adding to what he's saying. I don't
remember just a full stopping that was.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
That was the clip. It was something about No, no, no,
it wasn't about Louis. Was about Cal, he said when
Cal told him, don't ruin my program. I guess, but
you know, I've decided by the way to call the
podcast interrupted. Yes, I think that's the play.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
I've had people recommend interrupted by Matt Jones because it's
kind of like a double play, like the podcast is
by Matt Jones and you're also the active interrupting.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
That's whoever gave you that ide that's my.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
Mother actually shout out to Nancy.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Nancy, great idea. But I did, I did. I mean,
I am bad about interrupting, but I didn't feel like
I intentionally tried to be calm cornbread himpy. You know,
I tried to do that Ryan because I thought, you know,
he's a coach. I want him to come back.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
We talked about the next day how it's a different
interview format when you're interviewing somebody like that for a
podcast and then you are on the radio. On the radio,
you want to keep it moving and try to you know,
keep the guy on topic. You let Mark, I think,
expand on topics. Now, if you interrupted him once or twice,
I think it was because like you would do us
in conversation if we were having lunch somewhere, not like
you're trying to keep up to keep the podcast moving.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Well, that was the That was the Twitter Sunday night conversation.
Is Matt interrupts too much? So I just started chiming in,
saying Shannon I agree that he's the worst and we
need to we need to get him out. He talks
about politics too much. Andrew, what's up? Andrew, What's up?

Speaker 8 (09:46):
This is a question for you, Matt. Who's your favorite
current Red on the team?

Speaker 7 (09:50):
Who's your all time favorite Red?

Speaker 8 (09:52):
And what is your favorite piece of Red memorabilia that.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
You own Ellie Ellie and Ellie's bobblehead. Those are the answers,
because again, I've only really rooted for him for like
six years, and I love Elle even though you know,
guess he's up and down. There is nothing I've seen
in baseball. When I was a kid, when Dale Murphy
would come up to bat, that was the most exciting

(10:15):
thing Shannon to me in the world was Dale Murphy
was up to bat. Now, when Ellie gets a hit,
watching him run is the best thing in baseball in
my opinion, because you don't know what's going to happen.
He's so exciting so fast. So that's that's myne easy.
And then my Ellie bobblehead that I made Billy get

(10:36):
for me that he had to fight someone to get
uh for that one game, that's my favorite Memorabill Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Because you didn't go to the Pete Rose Jersey Night
the other I want to.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Ticket its got a lot of money for him. Yeah
that was that was good. But but that but it's
easy most of the Reds I've hated. I also liked
uh Lewis Castillo the pitcher because he could He's the
first time because I had seats behind home plate, Shannon
and I could watch the ball curve.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Oh that's cool.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, you know, like his curve was so.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Like so curvy, so curvy.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Sitting behind it's It's really the first time I could
watch a ball in person, like do magic when he
was rolling, and I really liked that. I would never
miss when he like I try not to miss one
hundred green pitches at home. He throws it even though
it's only like four miles an hour faster. You can
feel it, which is crazy, but the difference between like

(11:28):
one oh one and ninety seven, you can feel it
when he throws.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
That's another thing about Friday who made his return hunter
green back, and he was throwing one hundred miles an
hour when he came back, and then they lost the
lead and lost the game.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
That's so weird to me as a guy who didn't
play baseball, you would think ninety seven one hundred and one.
It's not that big a difference. But when you watch
it in person, yeah you can it's you guys played it. Yeah,
you can feel the differen It's a big difference. When
you're sixty feet away from that it it feels like
whoa coming off his hand. There's a guy they got

(12:02):
right now, Lewis May. He throws one hundred and two
and he has no control. And when he throws, I'm like,
I'm scared. I'm sure the batters have to be Dalton,
go ahead, dn't.

Speaker 9 (12:18):
Hey, man, I'm not sure if you've seen this, but
I think you would really like the movie A Real
Pain with Jesse Eisenberg and Kieran Colcine.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
I have seen it and I thought it was great.
I thought it was great. Yeah, I've seen it, the
one where they go to Auschwitz or whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (12:34):
Yeah. I just thought it was like a just a
good commentary on the Holocaust. And I know you have
mentioned it a couple of weeks ago, because that's what
you did.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I thought it was great. It's a great movie. And
it's also like there are a lot of idiots right
now that for whatever reason on podcasting stuff or trying
to like sort of downplay the Holocaust or even trying
to act like it. Some people dict like it didn't
even happen. That's nonsense and very dangerous. But also that
movie I thought was really really good. You know, it's

(13:11):
called it What's a Real Pain? Is that right? It's
the dude from Facebook and the dude from Succession in
a movie together. Yeah, it's really good.

Speaker 9 (13:20):
I really thought it was a breath of fresh air.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, so yeah, I appreciate it if I'm nine to
two eight to Zho twenty two eighty seven. Back to
the Pope thing for a minute. In his interview, he
talked about wanting to get more athletic, et cetera. He
also said during that interview, though, that he still wanted
the team to take a ton of threes this year.

(13:42):
Do you think they're gonna be shooting well enough to
do that?

Speaker 1 (13:46):
I guess you got to show me. Yet, I'm not
so sure how many good shooters we're a great shooters
we've got on this roster. Maybe they're gonna surprise me,
maybe everybody takes a step up. But I guess if
you're asking me to predict. I don't know if they'll
predict many more threes than they took last year.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
They won't have a Kobe Brea. Not many teams do
have a Kobe Brea. But I think a lot of
the guys are going to do better than some of
us would give him credit for Aberdeen. You know, he
played behind the best backcourt in the country. But in
the games where he started, I think there's five or
six games he shot forty something from three. I think
Jasper Johnson's gonna be able to knock it down. I
feel like no one mentions Cam Williams name just whatsoever.
So even though they don't have just the sharpshooter, you

(14:21):
know that's what they're in for. I still think they
have a lot of guys that'll be able to shoot it.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
That little section where he was talking about Jalen Low
and he was talking about how he took the highest
percentage of the worst percentage of shots, and if you're
a basketball nerd, that's probably the best part. He was like,
Jalen Low took the worst twenty percent of shots, the
top ten percent of times, and if we could just
move him to block. I thought that was really interesting.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
It was really interesting. I'm glad you brought that up
because he confused me on a little bit. Was he
trying to say that Jalen Low was forced to take
these shots because he had nobody else on the.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Bront I'll tell you what. Here's what i'd like to do.
Let's take a break. I want to hear you to
try to explain, okay, what he said, okay, and then
I'll tell you what I think he's okay.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
I'll try, all right, it was confusing.

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Fi'm nine to two eighth, twenty two eighty seven. Uh
the yaxel Landenberg staying at Michigan withdrawing from the draft,
so a lot of the big names in college basketball

(15:44):
drew are are coming back.

Speaker 6 (15:47):
That's one we wanted to see him go to the
draft because Kentucky really wanted him early in the process,
and when he went to Michigan, I think we were
all rooting that he'd go to the NBA and leave
them hanging. That was one of the that's when the
whiffs originated online for Pope when you wanna get it.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
At mean, if we had lost him, we lost him,
and that frustrated a lot of people. But I was
very early, important, very early, and I think Pope was worried.
You know, big men are harder to get, even than guards,
and I think he was worried if you go all
in on that guy and then he does he ends
up staying in the draft, then you are left without
a big man. And so I, you know, I do

(16:22):
think they wanted him. I also was not as worried
as everyone else when he decided not to come.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
It was so interesting to hear Pope talk about that,
you know, not necessarily that the dude maybe he didn't
want to come to Kentucky. Maybe Kentucky after meeting with
the dude didn't want him, you know, maybe he felt
like he wasn't right.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
I don't think that's true with him, though, Okay, I
think it was true with that dude from Georgia. I
don't think that was true with the dude from Michigan.
I think they would they would like to have had
the y Axel guy. I think at one point they
thought they did have him, and then he changed his mind.
I think the Georgia kid is the one. I mean,
there may have been others, but the Georgia kid is
the one that I think when they met him, they,

(16:56):
for whatever reason, I don't know what the reason was,
decided that they they didn't want.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
There were a couple of dudes, like the guard from
sam Houston State where I thought Kentucky they wanted. You
thought that Shanon.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Of course, he thought we were getting that one because
he guaranteed it on the radio and you said it
was going to happen later in the day, and you
interrupted my serene vacation in the Netherlands with everyone mad
at me because you guaranteed a player that didn't come.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
I think Yaxle was his other one.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yaxel was the other one.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, So notice what he just did right there, Shannon,
Do you notice what he just did. He just turned
his two guarantees that didn't happen into a Kentucky didn't
want them anyway.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
I think that was it.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
So Kentucky didn't want them? Then, why did you guarantee
they were going to come here?

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Well that was before they met maybe met him on FaceTime.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
You guaranteed Sam Wilkerson the day he was decided he.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Was supposed to. Then what Indiana made a eleventh hour visit?

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Well, then how could Kentucky have not wanted him?

Speaker 1 (17:55):
They did?

Speaker 4 (17:58):
I'm so confused.

Speaker 6 (17:59):
So it's the concussion from the Herbie two and nose?

Speaker 3 (18:04):
So is he eighty seven? Okay? So tell me what
Pope said about Jalen Lowe's shot quality in your mind?

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Okay, I'm this is what I heard sitting in the room,
is that Jalen Lowe is the point guard for Pitt. Correct,
Pitt was so awful.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
He didn't say awful, but I think that was the insinuation.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Insinuation that they ran the shot clock down to the
final seconds because nobody could get a shot, and he
was forced to jack up a bad shot just because
the shot clock was about to wind down. So really,
his shooting percentage is not as bad as it perceives
because he was forced to take bad shots because he
was on a bad team.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, he didn't say that. Now, what he said was that,
I mean he that might have been part of it.
But what he basically said was, there's a stat that
ranks how many high quality and low quality shots you take. Yeah,
and low quality shots are shots that are like from

(18:59):
the eightieth per or from the twentieth percentile of the
worst to zero. He said Jalen Lowe took more of
those shots than almost any player in college basketball, and
his shooting percentage on those shots was awful. But when
he took shots that were of a higher quality, his
shooting percentage was very, very good. And his point was,

(19:22):
if we can just get him to take fewer of
the I think pope U's the word hard shots and
more of the others, it'll work. And he said Lamont
Butler had similar stats before he came here, and they
got Lamont Butler to get away from the bad shots
and his shooting percentage went way up.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
Yeah, I think lows is confusing to say, but Lowe
was in the ninetieth percentile of taking the most shots
under twenty percent of quality.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Which is it is confusing, but he was at the
top of the worst scale you can be on and.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
Those are contested long two.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
It was interesting. Pope said one that they are basically
like looking for inefficiencies in analytics. Where is the guy
that if you just take that trade away, the other
trades will get better. And he said Lamont Butler was
like that two years ago and Jalen Lowe, he hopes
is like that this year. But when it was over,
I will say this kind of in a private moment,

(20:23):
well should we say, we can say I think we
said in versions. He was like, Jaylen knows the dudes,
it's gotta be good.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
He kind of was like, he said, that's the one,
like he's gotta be good for this to all work.

Speaker 6 (20:36):
That's the only spot where they're not really too deep.
I mean, they have guys that can back them up,
but if he were to go down or not pan out,
you don't really have a true point guard that could
step in and by the.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Way, that was true last year too. Lamont Butler was
the one guy you kind of couldn't really replace if
he went out, and I think we're gonna be like
that again.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah, Pope still spoke very highly of Jalen Lowe and
him as a player and what he could potentially could
be this year. I think for the team.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Jerry, go ahead, Jerry.

Speaker 8 (21:06):
Oh, yes, I think you should own interrupting people. If
you see the movie The Darkest Hour, there's a scene
where Winston Churchill is arguing with one of his war
cabinet members who was winning him to sue for peace
with the Nazis, and as they were talking over each other,

(21:28):
Winston Churchill said to him, stop interrupting me while I'm
interrupting you.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
I've done that before.

Speaker 8 (21:37):
If you could grab that that take and have Shannon
play that anytime someone tries to over you.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
No, that's your exactly right. I'd appreciate I do that
with callers. Don't interrupt me and I'll go let me finish. Yeah,
after I didn't let them finish. And it's a fair criticism.
Everybody has a weakness. I told one of the guys
that was giving me a hard time on on Twitter
about it. I'm like, everybody has a weakness. That's just

(22:08):
one of mine, and that's okay.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
At least you recognize it. Though.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
I feel like I'm pretty self aware about my weaknesses.
Now that doesn't mean I will stop them, but you know, like, like,
that's one of my biggest weakness. What do you think
is one of your biggest weakness? Is Ryan math?

Speaker 6 (22:28):
Well, he said that so quickly and leaned in.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
It's not really that's not really a personality weakness. That's
something you're not good at. What's like a personality?

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I have a hard time telling people know.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Okay, I think that's true. I think that's good. What
about you?

Speaker 6 (22:44):
I think I can be too carefree to a fault.
I'm just always and sometimes I need a little more urgency,
a little more aggression. I'm just constantly whatever. That can
be good in some situations, but sometimes you're easy you
need to be.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah, I agree with that. What about you, Shannon?

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Oh, everybody knows I'm perfect. I don't have any flow.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
I knew he was gonna say, but he doesn't. I
knew you were gonna say that. Like Shannon doesn't accept
Shannon is like exactly well, I love Shannon.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
I'm exactly like what.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I don't know how to articulate it in a way
that's as nice as I want to be because I
love you and I know so we'll just we'll just
take a break. Very back, it's KSR. TJ. Smith, personal
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Speaker 3 (23:36):
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Speaker 8 (23:50):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Nicks Pacers Tonight, Pacers two and a half point favorite.
All three of these games in the series have been close.
All three have been exciting so far. The road teams
won every game. Who wins tonight?

Speaker 6 (24:01):
I still think the Knicks win the series. I'll say
they win tonight.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
This is by far been the most fun really all
the Knicks and Pacers games, all playoffs. It just got
to the point there's just no point in watching the
first three quarters of these playoff games if the Knicks
and Pacers involved, because it doesn't matter if it's a
twenty point lead, eighteen point lead, it's coming down to
the wire. And I hope that's the case again tonight.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Foul. Sorry, I've been watching Carl Town's videos.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
Zesty Carltown is popular Town.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Like if you get on TikTok, it is all shit,
Zesty Carl. It's all just him going sec and like
it's just it's.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
In that past that that's going about.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Last that he did it. I actually think it's made
Carl even more lovable to the fans, is that they
are literally standing outside the arena and doing Carl Town's impressions.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
And I love Carl, but he is definitely changing his
voice in inter some more in New York and he is.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
He does all of it and I love him for it.
But they have shown him when he gets fouled in
screams oh, like he does that all the time in
the videos. They have like tons of video shited. I
can't stop watching them. They make me laugh so much.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Once you get on the algorithm on TikTok, that ever
can't get away get out of it.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
If you get in the Carl Town's screaming videos. You
cannot get out of him.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Stuck in the list.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
I sent you and Mario a link to there's a
Zesty Town shirting it.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
I think he's kinda He's kind of zesty, and he
was good the other night. He had twenty points in
the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
And I was really mad at him that night. You know,
I'm a PACER's guy, but Carl was unstoppable in.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
The fact when he dunked on the dude, Yeah, even
I got up and was flex.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Imagine being in the city of Indianapolis in a postseason
game and giving the ball to Carl late in the
game for win. I mean, what a novel concept. If
only we had done that about ten years ago.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Gosh, when I see him get hot from three, and
I think Cal was like, Nope, nope, can't shoot him,
can't shoot him.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
He was seven for eleven from the field and didn't
take a shot after the seven minute mark. Just a
reminder in Indianapolis.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
So you said the College Football twenty six video game
came out, No, Kentucky they have They have all these
teams on the cover, probably forty teams, and they don't
have Kentucky.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
They released the deluxe cover. I mean it's just a
big collaboration of all kinds of teams. There's probably fifty teams,
you know, players, coaches, fans. Kentucky did not make the cut,
but there is a fan pretty prominent spot wearing a
Toledo sweatshirt. So our first opponent made the cover of
the new video game and not the Cats.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Do you know that we have Ryan the fifth lowest
win total on DraftKings of any Power Fight Power for
school only Stamford. There's like Stamford, Purdue. We're fifth lower
what is it four and a half? That's tough, lowest.

(27:06):
We have the lowest in the SEC.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
I didn't like. I forgot the website, but someone over
the weekend did like one of those anonymous coaches things.
One of the coaches said they can't keep up with Vandy.
Like that's the biggest sense.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Over the years, that anonymous coaches thing that Athlon does
has been pretty dead ones And normally it's been very
very complimentary to Kentucky. Not this year.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
No, last year they were complimentary, did Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Not this year?

Speaker 6 (27:34):
It usually says we hate playing Kentucky. We know we felt,
we feel it. The next day.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
The whole thing is Mark has let it slip. We
have no idea what this team is going to do.
They might be off like it's not good.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
The one that said they can't keep pace with South
Carolina and Vandy. If you can't keep pace with Vandy
and other coaches are saying that out loud, that's that
one's stung.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
That one was worried me, and it basically said, there's
a lot of players that aren't that great. It's all
going to come down to seventh year Nick calzonk so
as I accidentally called him Eric Impanada, and we really
need Nick Calzada to be good. Darryl, go ahead, Darryl.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
Morning, gentlemen. I just have a couple of comments and
then I'll hang up and get out. Uh first, if
you want to or if you're worried about interrupting people,
listen to Sean Hannity's radio show. Not only does the
interrupted his guests, he asked questions that go for paragraphs. Second, Yeah,
West Virginia is the place where greatness is learned and

(28:38):
couches were first burned. Go mountaineers. I'm out.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Oh, well, there you go, West Virginia. Greatness is learned,
and cat well it is learned, and then it comes
to Kentucky, right, you learn it there and then you
come crafted uh here. We like that.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
Yeah, we're gonna uh, with all respect to the caller there,
We're gonna show West Virginia what's up at noon on
Friday too.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
They're almost like our minor league feeder system. Sure, and
we think you once you cross over I sixty four
from Huntington to Ashland, you get in the big leagues.
And we thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Wes for John Oscar she Way got kerk Crees and
we got the football player that's coming over now this year.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
So keep keep sending them, to keep sending them, We'll
take them my Marc Anthony, what's up, Mark Anthony?

Speaker 7 (29:23):
Hey, Matthew Andrews, Shannon Fellows. If there is but one
statistic I want to see improved this year from the
basketball team, it would be shot percentage from three feet
and in. I know it was every game last year
they would leave ten twelve points on the floor from

(29:44):
three feet and in. And they had an awful time
with the lab just could not get that lob to work.
So just one thing I want to see improved it
would make a big difference this year.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
There would be yes, I appreciate the call, There would
be multiple games that would have gone a different way
if we'd been better with layups. We were, I mean,
and really it was all the guys. I mean, Away
missed a lot, Robinson missed a lot, Butler missed a lot.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
Just dunking Amary dunk.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
I mean, there were just so many layups that just again,
I think it was an athleticism thing. I think the
athleticism when you are going up against a great athlete
and you're not quite as good an athlete, you tend
to try to avoid being blocked, and it causes you
to miss it. That might get better, but man, there

(30:34):
were a lot of layups missed.

Speaker 6 (30:36):
Yeah, I mean Carr, he's a below the rim player
and then when his bag got hurt, he definitely wouldn't
getting up there.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
But amar He oddly was one of the more crassy ones.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
Yeah, draw some good fouls, but amar He turned it
on in the tournament, had some flashy dunks against Illinois,
but there were so many games where you're just yelling,
go rip the rim off, big guy, and he would
just miss some two footers. It got frustrating. He was
so good at just about everything, but around the rim
he would have some problems.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Free bird. What's up, hey, glad y'all.

Speaker 10 (31:04):
Hope y'all had a great Memorial Day, Matt. If you
want a really good funny, I've sent you on the
text line of Grand Paul Jones outtake that he missed
a freight and I think Ryan hit it on the head.
Nick min Jones have said, a fabulous job with what
he recruited, with what he got in the transfer portal,

(31:27):
and I think we're gonna do some damage.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Man.

Speaker 10 (31:29):
I hope y'all feel the same way.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Well, they got in. They got in a little bracket,
and I appreciate the call that they have a shot at.
You know, sometimes you can get stuck with a team that,
even if you play great, like they're just a lot
better than and they're in a bracket. Where As Drew said,
those teams have struggled down the stretch, you've got a chance.
And so yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna sit here

(31:51):
and act like I know the excuse me the pitching
matchups and all this, because I do not. But I
do know that when I look at the base ball tournament.
I look in your little four team pod, do you
have a chance and they have a chance.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
You may look at just the overall records think well,
Kentucky doesn't have that good of a record, But then
you look at who their wins were against in the SEC,
some of the top level teams in the country. Then
you realize, this guy, this team is really good better
than a record indicates.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
One of the good things about playing in the SEC
in baseball. But this is true in every sport, but
certainly in baseball is we're so much better than every
other conference, and they try to keep you from playing
another SEC team in your little pod. Yeah. So it
makes it to where you get teams that might not
be as good as the teams you've been playing all
season long.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
Yeah. Even though Clemson's hosting had a good year, West
Virginia obviously two seed, had a decent year. You get
a little bit of relief not having to see an
SEC team. It felt like when they were reading the
sixteen regional sites, it was just one SEC school after another.
They had about all of them to at least get
a little break from that.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
By the way, the Canes won the game. I saw
the back. They needed to win. They did. I watched
most of it. They came back. They've got you know,
they have a Russian dude, Shannon, who just got to America.
He's only he came here, and he came here and
he's had to play for the playoffs and he speaks
no English. Okay, so I want you to think about that.

(33:13):
He speaks no English none, And they said that he
for last night's game, spent the day trying to learn
enough English to give a pregame motivational speak. Really, now,
I want you to think about this. He's only been
on the team for two weeks, he's from Russia. This

(33:33):
is his first time even in America. He decides to
try to motivate his new teammates. He's going to learn
just enough English for a speech. And after the game
was over, the players were like, it wasn't good, and
it wasn't even close to but there was something that
motivated us about the fact that he would try. Yes,

(33:57):
you know that he tried to do it and it
actually got him excited, even though they said like he
was using the wrong words and all that. But I
think that's kind of cool, right.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Imagine, you know, you had to go over to Russia
and do a motivational speech in Russian.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
And had to exactly, I'd be terrible.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
You wouldn't know what to say.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
But I wonder if the Russians would be like, well,
at least he's trying, you know. So I think that
I would love to have heard the speech. They said.
It was like twenty seconds. He gets up and the
guys try not to laugh because he's so serious, and
even though it sounded ridiculous, they all will. I think
that's kind of a cool story like that.

Speaker 6 (34:36):
I mean, he's obviously wanted to be part of the team,
wants the show. He can lead just head and got
through the Rosetta stone. Yet it's a big, big process
to learn our language gave.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
I'd love to hear what he said. That was like
not even close to right, but still got people go.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
I think it's awesome. I think it's shows he's a
good wants to be a good locker room guy, wants.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
To be a good teammate.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
So even though I may mess up the words, sometimes
people mess up the word when they're in a radio.
Sometimes it doesn't matter it does You're here for the
good of the better men.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Of the people. I thought we're about the good of
the betterment of the people.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
Yes, all right, you're trying to do it in the
same languages it is.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Hey, I'm eighty seven. We will take a break. Come back.
Final segments, Chazer, welcome back. Final segment, take you sports radio. Hey,
if you haven't heard by now, corn bread hemps and
few seltzers are flying off the shelves, and for good reason,
you can kick them back at a cookout. Only thirty
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(35:34):
from my house. Here's me, I'm the friend you you
took them, by the way, it was nice. Drew took
the corn bread seltzers left his coffee. It was very
It was very. But I can't complain because I leave
skittle rappers in my friend's couches. But nevertheless, corn bread
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(35:57):
I've given Billy a homework assignment, Shannon, I've heard for
today's Matt Jones show, I'm having Drew on. We're gonna
kind of do the whole, the whole fade this thing.
But I'm gonna have Billy pick ten news items, news, sports,

(36:17):
or entertainment items for us to discuss. Oh, and I
thought we were gonna tape it on Wednesday, but now
we have to tape it on Tuesday. So I didn't
tell him til last night. And I don't know what
he's gonna pick, Shannon, do you think he's gonna pick
good things?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, he's got plenty of time. You know, he does
the one hour pre show with me and then he's
got twenty three hours to come up with topics. So
I think if he can't come up with ten topics
in that amount of time, then I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
And he's gonna show. I'm gonna he will just give
them on the air and then Drew and I will
we'll discuss them, and that will be one of the
two episodes this week for the Matt Jones Show. People
people wanted that fade this dynamic, so we're gonna have
a little bit of it, and thank you all. The
amount of downloads of the SHO Show has been through

(37:01):
the roof people. I would suggest, hey, if you see
a guest on there and you're like, I don't know
this person, give it a shot, you will create new fans.
I had people say that to me about both Ryan
McGee and in Crystal Ball this weekend.

Speaker 6 (37:17):
Well, I'm excited for the show I'm gonna be on
because it's almost like a game show. There's no show prep.
We don't know what Billy is gonna put in front
of us. It's just going to be our natural off
the cuff reactions to whatever.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Billy doesn't pick good stuff, Shannon, I might mention that
during the show as well.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Blame it on him if you don't have a good topics.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Khalil Whitney, I thought about you, Drew when I saw this,
because that was your guy, the dragon. He put up
a was it Instagram? I think it was on TikTok
where Rut up a picture of himself when he was
at UK with the caption all he needed at the
time was a hug. So it was like a picture

(37:57):
of him looking sad on the on the bench with
him saying all he needed at the time was a hug,
and then a lot of Kentucky this is this is
the best of Big Blue days. Kentucky fans lit up
the comments, saying great things about him and You could

(38:20):
tell it affected him positively because he then put up
a different one that said BBN, I love you all
blah blah blah blah blah. But I will say when
I saw the first picture of him being sad with
that caption, it made me sad. Like even though things
didn't work out with that kid, you always have to remember,

(38:40):
like these are he was a kid when he was here.
What you were a huge fan of his?

Speaker 6 (38:46):
I was ready to lead the Khalil Whitney Dragon fan club.
Well I did it? Did it just lasted a few months? Yeah,
that one, That one hurt. You know, we don't know
the real story of what happened there. Just looking at
that post he made, it shows he obviously wanted to
go a different direction and felt probably a UK let
him down a little bit. If he's saying all I
needed was a hug. I do remember at the time

(39:07):
kind of people in the Khalil Whitney camp weren't helping
his situation. He seemed like he wanted to be at
UK and I don't remember what ultimately led to him leaving,
but I think the people around him felt him pretty
bad in that process too, because he had a world
of potential, and I looked it up last night, and
he's playing at like he just played in somewhere in Mexico.
Now he's at like the third or fourth level of Australia,

(39:28):
and he had way too much talent to not get
a better shot at a better pro career. But I
just needed a hug. It makes you wonder what he's
really implying there.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
As much as I love, and I do love when
guys come here. And I saw DeMarcus Cousins do an
interview with Kevin Garnett where he said Kentucky was the
first and only place he felt totally loved and accepted
by a fan base. I thought that was really cool.
It does hurt like it hurts me when guys feel
the opposite. I mean, some of it's inevitable, some of

(39:57):
it might even be their fault sometimes. I'm not saying
that the case with Khalil, but I saw that, and
it really I did buy me out like that, Because
you want this to be a positive experience for everybody.
That's that's a part of it.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
I've always felt bad for that kid, like you said,
he was eighteen, nineteen years old, and for him to
leave the team in January tells me that was more
than just playing time. He was Maybe he was broken,
he felt broken, maybe he didn't feel wanted. It is
hard to remember that these are just kids. A lot
of times. We just saw this a couple years ago,
and now I'm drawing a blank on his name. Played,

(40:32):
got drafted by the seventy six ers. Justin Edward, Justin Edwards.
You know, he ended up having some struggles throughout the season.
We saw him crying on the bench that one game.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
You know. Yeah, I mean Cal's thing is like the
tough love, and I do think there is a lot
of love with that. I mean, I do think he
cares about his guys. I think he is. I think
he cares about his players, you know, a lot more
than he even gets credit for. But he can't be

(41:00):
a lot. And I think some of the guys that's
just hard for and maybe sometimes it breaks before he
has a chance to really get through to them that
he does care a lot, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (41:12):
Yeah, it seems he's insinuating he needed more love. Maybe not.
I don't remember the fans being too bad. I really
don't remember the reaction how he's playing, but probably internally
behind the scenes. Cal does a great job taking caver
of his players. They all ador him, but he's probably
not batting a thousand on every single player, and Whitney's
I'd say one of the ones that you know, Cal
probably could have done a little better in making sure
he was Uh.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
I don't know what was Kenny Payne here when Khalil
was here, because Kenny Payne was a big part of
like stopping Col's worst instincts from hurting the play. Yeah,
and when he was gone, I'm not sure there was
somebody that played that role. That was Kenny's greatest strength
is cow would go nuts and then Kenny would come
back around and build it back up.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
I think Kenny was Yeah, this should have been he
went to the Knicks round Covid Kloe.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah. Well either way, I will say that, and I
think but a shout out to our fans who then
used that as an opportunity to say really good things,
because I do it's clear that made him feel better
for whatever was happening Ryan at that moment.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Another example why Big Lue Nation is the absolute best.
This guy left in January, but it's still and he
needed a helping hand. Big lu Nation's gonna reach out
and try to help the guy.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
By the way, the girl who came up during our
show at the Mount Laurel Festival, the queen candidate. Yes,
she ended up being named She won. She was named queen.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Who got thrown into the lake. That's what I want
to know.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
The guy with the mustache that was with her, Remember
the guy with the mustache. They walked up and I said,
are you gonna throw the people in the lake? Are
you gonna get thrown turns out he was the one
got thrown in the lake. So no KSR Curse show
ends up becoming queen. Thank you all very much. We'll
be at the bar tomorrow and Thursday.
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