2025-06-20- KSR - Hour 2

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Speaker 2 (01:00):
Come back Here is Kentucky Sports Radio Mike's Landing, Sulfur
Creek Friendly Atmosphere, cold drinks, great food. We ordered our sandwiches.
When we're done here, the group of sandwiches we're gonna eat.
The boats are out. It is absolutely a beautiful day
developing right here and at Mike's landing on dal Hollow Lake.

(01:22):
I do want to note one one thing. I don't
have the individual's name, but there is a while we're
down here, it's worth noting the passing. There was an
Okolona fire member who who died on dal Hollow Lake,
down the down the lake a little bit a couple
days ago. UH first responder fire, part of the fire
department Oklhona and Louisville.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
So prayers out to that family.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
They just announced that this morning, and so we will
be thinking of all of them, and and our thoughts
are with everyone there. All right, So today one of
the things I wanted to ask a fine twenty two
eighty seven. These guys don't even know I'm gonna say this,
So I'm gonna let Drew go first. Sol Ryan doesn't
say something that will embarrass.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
I make you.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Drew Franklin, athletic director for the University of Kentucky. First
of all, you need to start buttoning the top button on.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Your polo shirts.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
But besides that, you are the athletic director for the
University of Kentucky. I give you the ability to change
one thing about any part of the UK sports department,
specifically basketball or football. You get to change one thing
immediately as my gift to you as the new athletic
department chair. What is going to be the one thing

(02:37):
that you would change the most about UK athletics.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
M kind of put on the spot here, that's the point.

Speaker 6 (02:44):
Yeah, the first thing that came to my mind was,
and you mentioned this this week, I believe isn't getting
back to a better tailgating scene around Kroger Field. Whether
that's in entertainment district, planning, some grass, I don't know,
but something to get back because I feel like taigating,
not that it's ever been elite at UK so well.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
So let's say I grant you that, and I say,
here is X amount of money to go do it.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
What would you do?

Speaker 5 (03:07):
I am what was that?

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Go ahead?

Speaker 6 (03:09):
What would you do a little limited on property over there?
Even though they're building something right now, I'm bulldozing it.
I think it's halfway done over that agg whatever it is.
But I'm who needs agg I think the tailgating has
to improve.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
All right, but you haven't told me what you're gonna do.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
Well, I'm bulldozing the new Egg building and putting what
just big open space where we can tailgate grass. We
try to make our own little grove that that they
have it ole missed. All right, so you're so you're
I'm bulldozing the building. We are currently building and planting trees, just.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Taking it out right now? All right?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
What I give you the ability to do anything with
you with UK sports?

Speaker 3 (03:48):
What are you good?

Speaker 7 (03:49):
The first thing that came to mind is gonna make
a lot of people mad, but I don't care.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
But I do.

Speaker 7 (03:54):
I do care about this, and we probably lose quite
a bit of money, But I would love to do
something with the student section at ropp Arena and not
have them on the end zone. I want to have
them down in front where all those donors are. That
would be my change. If I could get around the
money hurdle, which is a big deal.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
That's actually really like that suggestion. I don't you know.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Financially, that's probably never gonna happen, but I do think
the atmosphere at RUP would be so much better if
you were able to do that, So.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
I actually think that's a really good one. Ryan Lemon,
what are you gonna do?

Speaker 4 (04:22):
That was mine? So I guess I'll just gotta add
to it.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Oh no, no, you gotta do a different one, Shannon
took it.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I'll put in the luxury suites at Rupperina. Put in
some sweets on both sides. Is make it more so
put the donors up there. Then, Yeah, put the donors
up there.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
They're sweets.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
So you're gonna use your one thing to do to
help the rich people.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Well, they stole my other two ideas.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
I come scrambled, gets to do anything, and he wants
to make sure they have cushier sweets.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, make a better kind of cooler place to the
rich people. Well you know you might get get us
up there one day.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Well, I'm not gonna bring you up there with that attitude.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
He's the reverse Robin Hood. He's trying to take care
of the rich.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
If I exactly, if I were to do it, my
number one thing is I would basically limit it to
where we can only play one neutral court game a year,
and we go back to home and homes completely like
we schedule all of our games again of home and home,
and that here's what I think college basketball ought to do,

(05:20):
and I'd like to be the one to advocate for it.
Take the first two Saturdays after the Super Bowl and
then leave them open and pair the best teams up
so that when the world turns its attention to college basketball,
they're seeing the best teams go at each other immediately.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
And so you know, you used to do this with
that bracketbuster Saturday.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
For the small conferences, they just say, you hold these
games and then we're gonna tell you who you play
two weeks before. I would do that with all of
college basketball, so that when NFL's done, people tune in
and it's Kentucky, Duke, et cetera. And I would make
all those games on home courts. So for me at Kentucky,
I'm not saying we don't have to play terrible teams,
but like they just announced the tournament we're having on campus,

(06:05):
it's Kentucky, Eastern Illinois, Valparaiso, and Southern. I mean, nobody
wants to watch that, Shannon. So if it were up
to me, I would much prefer to go play Yukon
on the road and then play I don't know, Houston
at home or something so that you actually got big
time match one hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (06:24):
Yeah, I love the home at home idea. I think
we played too many of these neutral court games. So yeah,
if we could get more games at home against some
of those caliber teams.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
And I would just like to see us be able
to have a little more flexibility in our schedule where
we schedule the teams that are gonna be the good
that year. Like, for instance, we're playing Michigan State this year,
We're playing Indiana this year. I mean, is that better
than playing than playing you know, Norfolk State. Yeah, but
they're not great. I'd much prefer that this year play

(06:51):
Houston and Purdue. Now, some years I wouldn't want to
play them, but this year.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Ryan I would.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
So I feel like I wish we had more flexibility.
To me, the only team that should be on the
schedule for sure every year is Louisville. Besides that, I'd
like to have flexibility.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
As to who we play.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
You know, we kind of toy around at one time,
have a game at Memorial costume maybe for students, almost.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
A great one to you know, it would be a
great one. That was it.

Speaker 6 (07:15):
I was actually just about to add I got an
email that says, I can't bulldoze that building, so I
have to change my plan.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
A game of significance in Memorial, however.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
You make that work, not not Kentucky State.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Can you imagine if we played Indiana this year Memorial?
How much fun that would be just to have it,
to have that game that you're exactly right if you
have won seven seven two seven seven four five two
five four On the text machine, who's up next?

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Rick Rooney is up next, Rudy, go ahead, Rudy.

Speaker 8 (07:43):
Hey man, I got two quick things. I play golf
at the U Club the Saturday after you're scrambling, and
I want to I want to thank you. I found
about seven thousand golf balls. There was literally walk up
to a T box twice and there was a prob
one that's sitting there.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah. That was a pretty drunk day.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
And I could see and some really bad golfers, so
I could see a lot of golf balls out there
for the take.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
And carpath only you just leave it.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Oh it was cart path only. Yeah, so people didn't
want to walk. That was probably a great day for
getting golf balls.

Speaker 8 (08:14):
Yeah, it was my second thing is UK football goes
four and eight, I think they'll fire suits. What do
you think and what's that gonna cost usted money?

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, so let's say you were Again, I'm not advocating
for this until the time comes because the season is
starting and so, but I appreciate the call. Let's say
you were to get rid of Stoops at the end
of the year. I believe the cost is now at
the end of the year, twenty seven to twenty eight
million dollars. I believe at the end of the year. Now,

(08:47):
there are ways you can do that. The way schools
do it now is they're they're let's let's say it's
twenty seven million, just so the math is easy, and
it was nine million a year. You can do it
to where you get nine million every single year, and
if Stoops doesn't get a job, he just takes the

(09:07):
nine million dollars. There's another way you can do it, though,
whereas you say, if you just take eighteen you can
have it, and then you can go make more money.
You can go sign with somebody else, because if he
signs one thing's about the deal. Let's say Mark, we're
to become the coach of Iowa, and they were to
pay him six million dollars, then UK at that point

(09:27):
only has to pay three million dollars.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
All right, they just have to pay the difference.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
But most coaches want a double dip, right, so they
they agree to a buyout for lesser money so they
can then go coach somewhere else, get full salary and
actually make more money, if that makes sense. So now
if Mark stoops though, if he were to to, if
he were to get fired, just doesn't want to coach anymore,
then he can just sit home and take the money.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
And there's really nothing we can do about it. Right,
So you don't have to pay twenty seven million dollars
up front. You spread it out over three years. But
it's still a a ton of money.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
And we've talked about this. You know, his his dad
died at an early age. He was a football coach.
His brother's kind of one of his brother retired kind
of at an early age. I think they they that's
something on the horizon to think about that when he
steps away, he may be done with coaching.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, it was thirty seven million dollars this year, so
again I don't have the provisions of his contract, but
Drew I would assume it's twenty seven to twenty eight
right now.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Yeah, And if it's at the against to that point
where it's just a horrible year, you gotta do what
you said to him and be like, look, we got
we got twenty Let's meet in the middle somewhere. You
don't want to be here any more than everyone wants you, hear,
Let's find the easiest way for both sides to move.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
As a practical matter, if we were to go four
and eight, the fans are going to want a change,
but there's the money issue and there's a students. As
a practical matter, do you think a change would occur
in that scenario?

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Yeah, because at some point you got to look at.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
The money you're gonna lose by running it back and
people just being completely checked out, not buying tickets and
not buying merchandise, not getting into it. So there's there's
some number there where if you know, if it's so
bad you're worried you're not gonna make enough, you just
got to bite the bullet and buy them out.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Do you think that if the scenario four and eight happened,
do you think a change would be made?

Speaker 4 (11:13):
What if that eight that that fourth win is Louisville
in the season.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
I don't think that if you that would mean you
won no SEC games, which is what and if you
if you went if you got zero SEC games on top,
well we won, We've beat oh Miss.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
If you if you had won.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
One SEC game and gone one in fifteen in an
SEC in two seasons, you can't keep that going.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
In that game, these games at Louisville s would be
another season with no home wins of a of a
Power four team.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
You know, I don't think until I just articulated it,
I realized how bad it could be if you're one
in fifteen.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Shit intwo, But I mean, we're gonna go Let's be real.
I'm not trying to be a bummer, but let's be
real about the SEC. We are going to be next year,
certainly an underdog in eight of our twelve games, and
then the and then probably a favorite in three and
then Shannon Vandy. Maybe we're a favorite, but we also

(12:13):
could end up an underdog in that game. There might
be a scenario where we are an underdog.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
In nine games next year. Yeah, that's that's gonna be tough.

Speaker 7 (12:22):
And they haven't won a home game in the sec
and how long. It feels like five is kind of
the magic number, even though five and seven is not
acceptable to keep your job, I feel like five is
the number you need to get to.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
I don't know if this is true, but I have
a person who just wrote me who generally knows what
they're talking about. I need to look this up. Billy,
where's Billy, Billy? This is gonna be you to figure
out if it's true. He says to me that one
of the issues with Stoop's contract is it was negotiated
to where he's owed the entirety of his buyout within
sixty days of fire.

Speaker 7 (12:52):
Ooh, now, if that's true, it's a strong negotiation.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
If that's true, we lost that negotiation with Mark Stews.
But that does change the calculus quite a bit. Let
me find it. Find out if that's true, because if that's.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
True, that'd be a tough pill to swallow.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
That's tough, especially on the year after you're adding twenty
million dollars a year to your budget in paying players.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
We need to get John Caliperry Lucky, who's the Tyson
Chicken of football.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Remember Stoops his agent. This is something to remember.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Mark Stoops's agent is Jimmy Sexton, who his only clients
are like Nick Saban, Bob Stup and Mark is works
because he was his brother's agent. So like I always
say my agent at ESPN, I'm his worst client, which
is definitively true. Mark Stoops is probably Jimmy Sexton's worst client,

(13:44):
but he's he's known as a get stuff like that
into his contract. He is the biggest agent in college football.
So we'll see if Billy, which one's right?

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Who's next? Sosa? Go ahead?

Speaker 8 (13:57):
Sosa was going on, guys, you all were talking another
day about missus prime problem, about what about the Memphis
crime problem?

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Memphis Memphis crime Okay, gotcha?

Speaker 8 (14:15):
Yeah, yeah, sorry. I just read an article and it
said that a guy just got arrested for trying to
kids at the mayor.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, but you know where that also happens, like Lawrence County.
Like that happens in a lot of places. I can
read you headlines from all over Kentucky of like, you know,
man threatens man with chicken like stuff happens.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
It's not a Memphis has too much crime.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
But if you can't just take an anecdotal story and
reflect on the whole city, because there are stories like
that everywhere.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
We had crime against our own mayor in Louisville.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, that's a great point.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
In Louisville, my friend was shot at, like not just threatened,
he was he was There was an assassination attempt on
the guy. There was a Minnesota lawmaker killed one week ago.
Like crime happens everywhere, and there you go.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
I appreciate the call.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
I mean, I'm just saying, like I think it's easy
just to the murder rates or whatever are what they are.
But just a perfect example, and I'll shut up about this.
Do I think there's too much crime in California? Yes,
people will go, oh, California's lawss. You know where the
murder rate is higher than it is in California, Alabama.
But does anybody say Alabama's lawless. No, they say California,

(15:39):
even though the murder rates hire in Alabama.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
I just feel bad for the Lawrenceburg mayor.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I tell you bet the Lawrence nothing against Lawrence County.
You all may not threaten each other with chickens. I
was just picking out a randomly. I always say Breathittt County,
and I feel bad and I need to stop that
in Illinois.

Speaker 7 (15:53):
I can't remember the name of the town we went
to though, was in Illinois and it was like one
of the murder capitis.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
The country town.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
Yah, little bit small talent because.

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got breaking news, Yeah, Rick.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Sorry, I had to think who was in studio? Go ahead, Rick,
what It's only sort of breaking news.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
But at Vince Merrill's press conference he let it off
by saying, just so you all know, I wasn't kicked
out at the school up the street.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
Called it the school up the street.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Same stuff.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
The heay that hurts.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Now, that hurts again.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Vince, you say stuff like that, then don't be surprised
when you get the dunkin Donuts reaction when you when you.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Say the school up the street. Just gonna be how
it is? All right, So Billy found the claw, found
the clause. It's worse than I thought.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Oh no, great, Uh, it's not twenty eight million, it's
thirty seven point five million. And Kentucky agreed to pay
all thirty.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Seven point five million within sixty days of the notice
tole Oh my goodness. Just to give you an example
of how much that is.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Had Col been fired before he went to Arkansas, it
was only thirty four million couch, so it actually would
be more than it would have taken to get rid
of cal Pierras.

Speaker 7 (18:21):
So now if he goes four and eight, do you
just let it play out?

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Does let us? Man?

Speaker 4 (18:24):
If you're Mitch Bonders contract, that's a tough call, man.
That's a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, I mean, well, all right, So I always kind
of defended I always kind of defended the Col deal
that led to the lifetime contract because I said, what
are you gonna do? Let him go to UCLA? But
oh and thirty seven point five million dollars is pretty tough.
The here was, here's the problem with the Stoops contract

(18:51):
was when we started adding provisions that every time we
got a bowl, it got a year long huh yeah,
Because what ended up happening is until we missed a
b which was what first time last year, last year,
his contract remained the same length forever.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
So think about that. I don't know what the initial
deal was, but let's say it was five years.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Every time he made a bowl. It just kept being
five years. So there never were any years taken off
of it, so essentially you were you were setting it
up to he gets five years of not making a bowl.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
Free, Yeah, and that shows the desperation of just getting
back to being bowl eligible.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Don't know that that ever. Really, I don't know that
I ever realized what I just said.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, we gave him a contract where every year he
made a bowl, it just kept going, and we gave
him five years.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Of missing bowls. That's actually horrible. Yeah, that's a horrible contract.
And I don't know that I ever processed that until
right now.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Well, we were living large there for a while. Again,
we were with living that large. Ten wins, going to
bowls every year. I mean for UK football, that's as
good as it's going.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
But I mean if you, if you, if you process
that contract not as drew, because I agree making bowls
every year has been good for this program.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
But if you process that contract as.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
We give you five times to miss bowls, which is
what that really is, and we will still pay you
nine million.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Dollars to miss bowls for five years, it starts to
look a lot worse.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
Yeah, Mitch needed to give big raises to Calian stoops
when he did, maybe he lost at the negotiating table
on some of the specifics, like to buy outs having
to pay it in sixteen.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I mean, I'm totally fine with the amount of money
he made, and I was totally fine with it being
a five year deal.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
But in hindsight, that thing where he always got a
free year if he made a bowl was a huge mistake.
That was that that really was probably a huge mistake.
Who's next? The Italian Stallion is I'm not calling you that,
but go ahead?

Speaker 9 (20:57):
Is the Italian Stallion? But I my infamous Kentucky Hello,
just go ahead. I wanted to share my infamous Kentucky
athlete and let me set the scene for his infamous moment.
Twenty seventeens and Tucky's trying to snap the thirty game
losing streak to the Gangers. I'm in Kroger Field, complete

(21:20):
collapse in the fourth quarter. Well a two possession lead,
but we're driving with one minute left. Charles Walker makes
an amazing fourth down conversion and Benny Snell breaks three
on the next play, which is at the twenty and
would have been again it's a ship shot to win it,
but a Nick Haynes hole brings it back. And I
had a mental breakdown in Kroger Field.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well, we mentioned this exact one the other day. We
mentioned that. Yeah, and I don't think it was Nick Haynes.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
It was uh.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, who is otherwise? Uh under the bus it was
Bunchie Stallings.

Speaker 10 (21:55):
Uh you know who was an all n seventeen.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
I'm not gonna argue with you.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I appreciate the call, but nevertheless, that was a it
was a tickie tack holding call. And and we didn't
even need it. I think it was on the other
side of the play like it was. It was like
behind him, Benny had already gone by.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
That was That was a bad one.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
Yeah, the replay did not help it. It didn't have
to be called.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
They did not need to be called at all. And
they ended up and that made that street go a
little bit longer.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
It's a fun football conversation today.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah. By the way, Shannon, you see that back there
on that TV. It's today is the Royal Ascot? Do
you know what that is?

Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's like the the British version of the Kentucky Derby is.
I think it's today and it's called the Royal Asscot.
I know this only because Max always wanted to watch it.
But the thing is, look at.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
The guys in the they wear Everyone there wears those
like top hats.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
You can see them, you see that.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
So like the people even who walk the horse out,
they're not just wearing like Keenland shirts or Churchill shirt.
They're wearing top hats and like tuxedo the long coattails
and they yeah, they wear them.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
This is this is a wild event. I mean, we
we do the derby up, but this is kind of
crazy what they do for the Royal Ascot. I mean,
look at that. That's just everyone there is wearing the
top hats.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
It's like a uniform that everybody has to wear. Everyone
about who you have to be behind a guy and
a hat of course.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
I mean, look they're.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Cleaning the horses wearing top hats.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
I want to go.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
I kind of like it.

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A five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
One person writes, Matt, what's frustrated to be about these
coach contracts is the coaches never have any buyouts if
they leave.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
At other schools, they do, but we've never been able
to get them in there.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
So that's we've had this weird deal where like with
cal and even with Stoops, they would have been able
to leave and owe nothing.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
And if we want him to leave, we have to
pay him. You know.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Again, there's a lot of things to praise Mitch Barnhardt about.
I think he's overall been a very positive.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Athletic director.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
You might be able to Drew complain a little bit
about his negotiation skill on some of these deals, not
to the other extent. If the coach leaves, he'd get blamed.
So you're kind of between a rock and a hard place.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
Yeah, he had to take care of them to keep them.
They're both kind of at their peak. But said I
think he lost at some of the details there. At
the end of the coaches not having to pay their
part really got bailed out by not having two of
these issues at the exact same time. Really, if Tyson
had to save us this time, yeah, we still owe
Tyson quite quite a bit for that.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
At Arkansas, Trent Noah said that Mark Polpe told him
to go to gain eighteen pounds this summer.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Chinning.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
You think he can gain eighteen pounds this summer. You
don't want it to just be in fat, So it's
gonna have to be eighteen pounds of.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
And a half.

Speaker 7 (26:00):
Yeah, he's got to get in the gym and start
hitting it hard. I mean, yeah, you get it. Gang
eighteen pounds of fatness that are out eating twinkies and
ho hos all day.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Well, he had a little bit of like kind of
baby fat arm a little bit, so hopefully maybe he
can he can get that tebo.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Eighteen pounds and a tough thing to get in the summer.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
A lot of muscle.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
That is a lot of muscle. Now, when you're younger,
it's easier than when you're our age to put on that.
But you think Trent Noah can put on eighteen pounds
of muscle.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
We've seen a lot of bodies transform over the years
in that weight room over there in the UK, So
it's possible, but.

Speaker 7 (26:31):
We're talking about between now and November. I mean that's
not that long.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Well, I mean I think he it was from March
to No, it wasn't right now. It was basically, you know,
eight months.

Speaker 7 (26:40):
If I tell you to do that in a year, though,
that's tough.

Speaker 6 (26:43):
Right now, he's losing it because Pope brought out the
old school conditioning this week.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, so what about that he's doing.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Pope is going back to uh Rick Patino conditioning where
they do the you know, the first practice you just
run back and forth.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
You know, it's a different time. I mean, I did it.
He inherited a team that you can go back and
look at. The picture was a little dowey.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
I don't know that our guys are very doughy now,
but do you like the intense conditioning like that?

Speaker 1 (27:09):
I wonder if he did what Potento used to do,
put trash can strategically located out there on the floor
because there was a lot of people hurling into him
by the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
So I think guys are in general and better shape
nowadays than they were then.

Speaker 7 (27:20):
But you gotta remember those teams back then were pressing
though nearly forty minutes a game, so it's a lot
different if you're not going to press.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
It is a lot different this team.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
The more I hear about this team and talk to
people around the program, you know, I was at Memorial
Coliseum a few days ago. We I don't think we're
gonna be crazy athletic. I mean, this is gonna be
the most athletic Kentucky team probably since Fox Monk Bam.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
I mean that's gonna be the This is gonna be
a very very athletic group of guys.

Speaker 6 (27:51):
And defense was an issue at Toms last year. I
don't know that's gonna be a problem this year. They'll
probably gonna be top fifteen defensive team. I can't wait
for a lineup that has like Aberdy o Way Diabat
and if a Quaintans is fully healthy blocking shots or
even remember the Oklahoma game last year where Brandon Garrison
was switching out on guards. I mean, they've got some
really good lockdown defenders.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
And don't forget, I'm as guilty as anybody of forgetting
the best defender on the team when he gets healthy,
will be Jaden Quaintons. I mean, Jayden Quaintans was was
like you know, he is a top five player defensively
in the NBA, like top five projected pick defense like
he is, We're not. We just kind of look over him.

(28:32):
You mentioned him the other day, but we kind of
look over him defensively. He was all world last year defensively,
and when you get him on the back end on defense,
that's gonna be great.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
Kind of got that Nerlin's timing too.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Watch.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
Yeah, that's good in Arizona State and he got some.
I'm sure he's got the lenked, but there's some he
just wasn't supposed to get and the timing was perfect
on them.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, that Nerlins Noel.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
The thing that made him so good is he his
timing and he was seven feet whatever, but his timing
was unbelievable. A quaintance has that too, and that's just instinct,
and he is. He is really really good at it.
Who's next?

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Tony is up next?

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Tony? Go ahead, Tony.

Speaker 10 (29:14):
Good morning, guys, that we're doing doing great. First shout
out for me and then uh, next morning about your
year from the championships coming up? With all due respect
to Lake Cumberland, and I've spent a lot of time
on Cumberland because I played basketball and went to college
at Somerset for three years. You all asked the most

(29:36):
beautiful place, and not only in the state of Kentucky,
but in the eastern part of the United States?

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Do you agree with that?

Speaker 10 (29:41):
And Mike Landing and Tropa Friek are one of the
pools of Dell Haw.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
So I will say this. I actually I agree with
you on that, and I've spent a lot of time.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
I really was not familiar with Dale Hall till we
started doing KSR and we started doing a couple of
plays close to Monoicelo, and then here this is in Kentucky.
There's the one, what's the one out on the western
There's a one in the western part I think is
also beautiful. But I do believe this is the most
beautiful lake in Kentucky. This is this is a This
is a gorgeous place with the settings and all that.

(30:16):
So I agree with you, sir, go ahead.

Speaker 10 (30:18):
Well you don't know, and you don't know what you've missed, Matt,
because I've been going bell Holla for over sixty years.
So to leave me it's and I've been to a
lot of lakes, but to go to go to go
to them with the championship year. I think a lot
of people are selling this team short right now. Now,
I'll give you twenty fifteen, but you just hit on it.

(30:40):
If Quayton's comes back healthy and as close to one
hundred percent, this could be as deep and as talented
and athletic a team as Kentucky has had in many years.
And my championship year will be twenty twenty six. Along
with the file for it.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Look, there's no I appreciate the call. I mean, let's
just let's just use singularly drew depth. Okay, twenty fifteen's
gonna be the deepest team will ever have. I mean
we had you know that, would we have eight nine
guys get to get draged? I mean, like, that's gonna
be the deepest team we ever had. But put them aside,

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when's the last time we've if everybody reaches their potential? Okay,
can now, everybody's got to reach their potential. But if
everybody reaches their potential, when's the last time we've had
a team as deep as this?

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Besides twenty fifteen in.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
Awhile cal never really built him this deep. He had
star power. But your ninth ninety six, say Cal's ninth
and tenth guys aren't playing much.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
You're gonna have probably a McDonald's All American and a
four star at like twelve and thirteen on this rush.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Now, what what this team does not have that ninety
six and twenty fifteen did is the star power at
the top, right, Ryan, I mean, ninety six had Antoine Walker,
Ron Mercer, Derek Anderson. Twenty fifteen has the number one
overall picking the draft, Carl Towns lottery picking, Devin Booker

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lottery picking, Trey Lyles. I don't think this team has that,
but they do have like a twelfth man who could
start at most schools in America.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
And when we talk about this team, we don't mention
how hardly ever Cam Williams or Yellovich, two guys that
may be starters at some point during this season.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
They are so deep at every position except for the
one thing. I'll worry about his point guard. If we
have a problem at point guards again a guy gets hurt.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
What we're gonna do then, But we're not Jaylen Lowe's
gonna be great. I put you know, every year, Shannon,
and I put my stock in somebody. I had huge
Antonio Reeves Stock and then he became a first team
All America.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Right. I had Dillingham.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Stock and while Kyle never started started him, he ended
up being great. Last year I had Jackson Robinson Stock
kind of state even didn't go didn't didn't didn't go away.
My stock is all on Jalen Low this year. Yeah,
I mean he's got First of all, we need it.
But secondly, I also think it's gonna be it's it's

(33:12):
gonna run.

Speaker 7 (33:12):
Yeah, I think so if this team is going to
be great, he has to be great too. So you know,
it's gonna be a transition going from where he was
at Pittsburgh to the SEC. But I think he's gonna
be very service the good one.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
The Jalen Low great moments at pitt were superstar Walter
Clayton junior moments.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Now he was much more inconsistent.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
So if you can make it to where you take
some of that inconsistency away, Drew, you can have a superstar.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
And we just have to trust that he's going from
a system that was not helpful for him, a team
that wasn't very good. Uh, we won't really know until
he gets out there, But how he'll play with four
good players around him, and Pope that's gonna be taking
care of him with one of the better offenses in
the country that can completely clean up his inconsistencies and
kind of smaller shooting percentages.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
That were you wanted to see last year.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Tell me about Stocktor Mortgage.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Stoctor Mortgage.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
You know it's always a great time to buy, and
right now good time to you do a little cash
out refinance.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Maybe want to buy one of these new pontoon boats
we're seeing behind us on the lake. Doctor mortgage, cash
out refinance, used that money. I don't know how to
do it by invest in your pontoon future, and doctor
Morge can help you along the way. I don't know
if they can't do pontoons, but why not houseboats? House boats.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
I can, I'm sure sure they can.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Stocktor Mortgage Animals a two five to nine equal housing lender.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
That's right, you know, somebody offered just a minute ago
to take us on the boat next year. I would
love to consistently go on a boat, but I can't
own one.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Because I don't know what you need a front that
house one? Well, I need a friend and I need
somebody to drive it because.

Speaker 7 (34:38):
I drove the boat well steering will and I guess.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, but then you have to Yeah, I can't.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
Can you turns in the lake?

Speaker 3 (34:46):
I can't. I can't do it. We'll take a break.
Me right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio water Back.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
It is the final segment here Kentucky Sports Radio Live
and Sulfur Creeker.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Thank you sir over there on your boat. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Sulfur creekers Ort, Kentucky Office a Highway Safety KSR Safe
Summer Driving Tour has brought us to Cumberland County, Sulfur Creek,
Mike's Landing Floating Restaurant and lounge. They've been awesome to
host us, and we have had a really good day.
You were just you had a good idea. You know,
everybody's like kind of mocking online the idea of motivated

(35:19):
Mark Stoops. They should just lean into it, right Yeah,
I just just lean into it. Just say I'm motivated,
and it'll be uh making a thief.

Speaker 8 (35:26):
I know.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
Sometimes we think Twitter is a whole fan base. It's
a small portion, but motivated Mark Stoops is huge on Twitter.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 6 (35:33):
I just saw another graphic. He just needs to tweet
lean into it. Just tweet one word motivated.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
That's all you'd have to do. All right, I got
a question for you. You all. I always like to
make you all the the governing body, the legislature.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Okay, so we saw what happened in Minnesota last week
in the tragedy of the guy goes to the legislator's house,
kills the woman tries to kill another one.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
In Minnesota, there's.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
A state law that they are there are some talk
about proposing in state, you know all of our if
you buy a house, it's public record who owns the house,
the name it's in.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
So there's two different proposals. Would you vote for one
of these, both of these, or neither of these. Proposal
one would be to say that all people.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Have a right to not have available on public record
searches that they own a house. That basically who owns
a house the government will know, but it's not available
for private searches that you.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Can find online. That's number one.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Number two would be even if you don't want that,
for government leaders, for their privacy who are in positions
of controversy, they would have the option to not have
their houses listed where you could just look where Mitch
McConnell lives or whatever, or number three be like it is,
now everybody's house you can find. You're in charge, Shannon,

(36:57):
which should be the law.

Speaker 7 (36:58):
I think we should have the right to privacy to
where people cannot look up where you live. I'll tell
you because I'm sick and tired of getting notes and
foreign money sent to my house, which has been going
on for the last five years.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yes, I thought people you liked it.

Speaker 7 (37:12):
I don't who said I liked it?

Speaker 3 (37:13):
You liked it? No, I don't know. The funny is
I don't know your address, so I certainly know.

Speaker 7 (37:18):
Apparently it's not hard to find because I even moved
houses and now it's following to the new house. So
I would say I think that stuff should be private.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Do you think there should be Everyone should be able
to buy a house and you don't don't know where they?

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Okay, like that? What do you think?

Speaker 6 (37:31):
I completely agree it should be private. Nobody needs to
know where people are living. This isn't back in the
day you just get the phone book and have everyone's
address and phone number in your hand.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
I think it should be completely private.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
I mean, I'm a realtor.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
I'm in the business of buying and selling houses, and
I think this is the stupidest thing that we can
look online and say who the name of any house
we want.

Speaker 7 (37:50):
To Why do I need to know? Does anybody need
to know?

Speaker 4 (37:54):
I think I've always thought that was stupid.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Well, okay, so the rat and I'm not saying I
generally agree with you all.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
But the rationale is you pay a property tax, right,
you pay a tax as such your land is. The
reason it is Shannon's land is that the state says
it's your land.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Right.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
If the state didn't say it, it would only be
yours if you could fight everybody off.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Right.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
So because the state, our tax payers are making sure
Shannon's land is Shannon's land. That's why people have an
access to it. So it's it's not like your your television,
because the state isn't making sure you own that television.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
They are making sure you own that land. So does
that have any appeal to you at all?

Speaker 7 (38:42):
No being on record, but I don't think that should
be public, is what I'm saying. It's like medical records.
You have records, but they're not public. I think the
house should be the same way.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I kind of agree with you, but I am saying
that's why it's like that is because ultimately, the only
reason you own that land is because the state says
you do, so that's why they do it.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Stupid.

Speaker 8 (39:05):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Who's up there, sir? What's your counter opinion? Stupid? All right?
What's next? How do you argue that you can't? Go ahead?
All right? Man like that?

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Man?

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Go ahead, man, Hey, guys, go ahead.

Speaker 10 (39:24):
Hey.

Speaker 11 (39:24):
I'm sitting out in my garden and I'm reading my
book Our Appalachia while listening to you guys. Yes, and
I want to read a sentence real quick from it.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 11 (39:37):
Sharing is a way of life in the mountains and
appropriately the essence of our Appalachia. And that's what you
guys do. You all share your ours life and and
uh information and great st I love it.

Speaker 10 (39:54):
I just love it.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
And that's what we that's what we do in Appalachia.
You know, this is multiple fridays in a row.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Now, You've been on right at the end of the
show and said something very kind and I really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Thank you very much. We appreciate you know, driving a
right like doing these shows all around the state.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
It's it can be hard sometimes because it's we're in
the car a lot and we're going all over.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
But I do love it.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
I mean like coming to a place like this and
seeing people, and we've seen some faces that have been
here all three years we've been here.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
It's one of my favorite things to do. Ryan, I
know you love that as well.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
And we get to discover new places, like we didn't
know this. We'd never known this week and it's one
of the most beautiful places in our state. So thanks
to Mark we help cut and set it up. Grandma
stairs here with a lot of familiar faces we get
to see every year.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
I do like when you this summer. If you have
a weekend this summer, whether it's Mike's landing here at
Sulfur Creek or somewhere, you can use the book I
wrote as an example, but you can also find online.
There are so many cool places in Kentucky that you
would never think to go. If you're just like, well,
I only want to go to a city, or I
only want to go just take a week in put

(41:00):
the one hundred and twenty counties on a in a
in a bowl. Draw one and there'll be something you
could do in that place that would be cool, and
it gives you a chance to see the area. Everybody
always goes to Destin or they go, like I do,
to New York. There are places you could go in
Kentucky where there's stuff like this that is is gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Let's do one more. Who's next?

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Randy?

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Is next? Randy? Go ahead? Randy?

Speaker 12 (41:26):
Yes, Uh, I'm a large dude fan, and I hope
he can somehow land the plane. But if he doesn't,
could he be fired for calls?

Speaker 3 (41:37):
For no?

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Now that generally speaking, you got about shut down a program.
To be able to be paid for calls, you gotta
get like so losing some victories just doesn't do it
now because if that were the case, and I appreciate
the call.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Then the four cause cause would mean almost nothing if
it could.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
So generally speaking, you got you gotta do what Rick
Patino did to be fired for cost. And Rick Patino
even got some money out of it. So you know,
it's hard to fire people for cause. So their cause
is like you personally did something to embarrass the university,
You committed a crime or something. It tends to not
be your job performance. Thank you all very much here

(42:21):
at Mike's landing at Sulfur Creek. We appreciate it. It
was awesome here, beautiful, thanks to Mike and all those folks.
Everyone in Kentucky have a great weekend. We will be
back on Monday. Enjoy all that's going on across the state.
This has been Kentucky Sports Radio.