2025-07-22- KSR - Hour 1

Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk TBT, revenue sharing and your calls.

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Speaker 3 (00:36):
Welcome everyone to He is Kentucky Sports Radio, Tuesday, July
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seven seven four five two five four. In this edition
sponsored by the TJS at Lofice, you call TJ he'll
make them pay. I'm on day two of my four
day marathon of yapping, doing the show in the morning,
ESPN at night, and then taping a couple of podcasts
during the day, so a lot of talking. Very excited.
Last night when the show was about to start, Riding

(01:19):
found out big Dallas Cowboys story. That's what I wanted,
you know, you know when you go on national radio,
let's talk more about the cowboys. Got to do that
last night.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Well, yeah, you guys don't talk enough about Dak Prescott
and the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
This was Jerry Jones said that Michaeh Parsons could just
get in a car wreck. He was like, well, why
should we give him a contract? What if he gets
in a car wreck? And I thought, why speak that
in to exist.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Suspect number one?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
I think that's probably true. So we got to do that.
And then you also had the Bengals. Those the two
big topics were him and then the Bengals owner saying that,
I guess their first round pick. He didn't want to
with us. He wanted to make sure he didn't get
in to quote any foolishness, which is exactly what a
ninety year old man would say, don't you get into

(02:09):
any foolishness. Doesn't want to pay them if they get
in trouble, Yes, don't good. But I like that he
used the word foolishness because that's really, Yeah, that's really
something an old person says, don't you go out there
getting into any foolishness.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
I don't know the last time I've even heard somebody
use that word.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
I think my grandparents used the word foolishness. They would say,
you know, any time you're out at night after ten pm,
it's just a bunch of foolishness. And so they didn't. So,
you know, those were the two big topics last night.
It was it was fun.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
And you had to stretch those two topics into how
many hours?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, I just ended up talking about other boks. I mean,
if you haven't listened to Myron and I on Sunday
mornings and now we're on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday this week
from seven to ten, it's just KSR but me and
Myren and a little less TBT and a little more
everything else, little more Jerry Jones, a little or because

(03:00):
I just I can't talk about that stuff. So we
end up talking about other things and you know, I
fully transferred to ESPN into I'm just gonna talk about
whatever I'm going to talk about.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
We're currently living in. If we had to keep talking
about it, I have already hit my max with the
Bengals owner and Jerry Jones Micah's.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
And then.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
To think there's another hour forty five ago.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
So yeah, well all right, So I think the biggest
story in uk Land today is is this whole question
of of the revenue situation? Right, So let's go through
the Let's go through the little the timeline. We'll start
with the Matt Noorlander uh comes out yesterday. He has

(03:42):
been at the Peach Jam, which is where it's not
just now a recruit thing, it's where all the coaches
get together and it's where these people find out gossip.

Speaker 7 (03:50):
Right.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I'm always interested when the national reporters go to the
Peach Jam what they say after, because they usually find
out a lot of important stuff. And Matt Norlander rights
he's talking about how and if you've been listening to
show Ryan, we've been talking about this for a while.
The Big East could spend all their money on basketball
and the coaches in the other conferences.

Speaker 8 (04:10):
Are worried that's right, they'll have basically.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Are they're worried that Villanova, Yukon, Saint John's are gonna
just have so much bigger REV share budgets. And they
said that this past year wasn't a big deal because
all these people put their Nile money in before before
the rev share started. But it'll be a big deal

(04:33):
next year, sure, And in the course of the article
he throws in though, well except Kentucky, because at Kentucky,
of the twenty point five million dollars they get to
REV share, they're gonna spend nine and a half on basketball. Now,
the other schools, the number is supposed to be like
three to three and a half, which would mean Kentucky

(04:53):
is spending million, triple what any other of the power
for schools are spending. Well, that's a pretty amazing number,
in part because it would ensure that Kentucky basketball has
Shannon any player they would want.

Speaker 8 (05:12):
But then.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
The implication on football is that the football team would
have five to six million dollars less than every other
SEC school, which would be it would make being good
at football even harder than it is now. So that
was Matt Norlanders report. Uh Later in the night, I

(05:34):
started getting calls from people associated with the university and football.
I was on ESPN, so I couldn't take these calls.
But you know, when you start to see certain names
pop up, it's like, Okay, there's a message. They they
got something, they need media. But so you know, I'm
sitting here talking about Jerry Jones and foolishness and during

(05:56):
the commercial breaks going well should I call these people?
And then finally I did. And then I was told
by a number of different people that that report is
not one hundred percent accurate, that football is getting a
substantial amount of money and is getting I was told
the language was competitive with the other schools in the SEC,

(06:17):
So I don't really know how to read that. Matt
Norlander is almost never wrong. He texted me later in
the night when he saw my tweet and was like, hey, man,
I'm just telling you what everybody said, and I've confirmed
it with a lot of people. So Norlander's basically saying
Basketball and UK people are saying this. I spoke to

(06:41):
football and UK people saying the opposite. So I don't
really know what to believe. I really don't know what
to believe, and I'm not sure what's accurate, but one
of them can't be true, So what do you make
of it?

Speaker 4 (07:00):
It's interesting to hear your angle the story, because, yeah,
I came in thinking that Matt Norlander's report was probably
pretty close to being accurate.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Did you not read my tweet?

Speaker 6 (07:07):
No?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Why not?

Speaker 8 (07:09):
I didn't know, Shandon, he.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Doesn't read my tweets. You don't want to before the
show lot. I don't tweet that much. I think I
probably have sent two tweets yesterday. I can't listen to
you say I do not tweet nearly as much as
mister spectacular. He is a lot more.

Speaker 8 (07:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
He's a lot more tweet tacular than I. Okay, but
now that.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
You've heard that, I think Kentucky would want to have
the football team be competitive, but I don't think it's
gonna be near what the other SEC football schools are
going to get. So I still think basketball gets a
proportionately larger get.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
There, three times more than the others.

Speaker 8 (07:46):
That's a big number. That's a big numb maybe double.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
But if it were the case that basketball was gonna
get so much more, Drew, wouldn't the football people be
up in arms?

Speaker 5 (07:57):
That's my thing. I find it hard to believe. I
think Kentucky will give a little more than most SEC
schools than they should, but the number Norlander put out
was way too high, Like basketball doesn't even need that
much for one. And then I feel like in the
last six months, Stoops has been talking about how he
and Mitch are on good terms and he feels like
he's starting to get the support he wants. If he

(08:17):
was getting the percentage that Norlander put out, Stoops would
not have been so happy about his status here lately.
He would have been on fire at media days of
basketball was getting three times when it is everywhere else.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
I can just tell you that privately, when the football
program has felt disrespected or felt like they weren't getting
their fair share, they may not say it publicly, but
they're blowing me up privately. Yeah, okay, like I'm hearing privately.
I can't say this publicly, but okay, this was the opposite.

(08:53):
This was almost saying I don't know what everybody's talking about.
So I mean, Matt, I know Matt Norlander. He would
not make that up somebody. So I am sure the
basketball people or the university people that he talked to
are saying that, but I also know what the football
people are talking about, which gets me to my point.

(09:16):
Mitch Barnhart needs to tell people so when they went
to this private you know that the athletic department is
now this private entity. When I a member of the
university called me when that happens and explained it to me,
and then I asked them one question at the end,
are you all going to comply with the rules that

(09:40):
require you to release public information? Are you doing this
basically to make it to where the public doesn't know
where their money's going? And they said to me flat
out no, we will still release the same things we
always released. Okay, I'll take them at their work. But
don't you think Mitch Barnhardt and this athletic department should

(10:02):
tell the fans where the money's going. Don't you think
we should know what percentage of our money is going
to basketball, is going to football, is going to women's basketball,
et cetera. Don't you think that's something people should know?
Like we have two completely conflicting reports here. Do you
think Mitch Barnhardt should tell people what the university is

(10:23):
focused on?

Speaker 4 (10:23):
I do. I'm in I'm in that boat that I
think he should. I think he'll he'll be fair. I mean,
if one thing I think he's known for it, he's
going to be fair to his program.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
But don't but fair is in the eye of the beholder.
We will have callers who will say, sure, give UK
football the same amount of money Alabama in Georgia gets.
We will have people like Shannon who will say give
it to basketball.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, I think my number was nine million when we
talked about that in Somerset at the Virginia.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
If you're so, fair is in the eye the beholder. Yeah,
don't you think. Mitch Barnhart, though, owes people the explanation
drew of what is true.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
Oh that's the whole takeaway from all of this, because
yesterday people are fighting on the internet when we don't
even know what's accurate, like fans defending football, fans defending basketball,
when we really don't even know the true story that's
about Barnhart at least need to say this is what
it is and then let fans decide what.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Barnheart's only said it'll be flexible. Well, flexible is a
good way to say it could be anything, right, Like
I mean flexible is the flexible is the least meaningful
word in the in the English language when it comes
to this, because flexible could mean fifty twenty million dollars
to basketball or zero.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Well, the timing is good because a week from Friday's
Media Day Football and he hasn't done it a while,
but most times he opens media day with his own
press conc usually yeah, this year, I think, especially with
this happening right now a week before media day, he
has to say maybe they don't even know yet, but say,
this is the way we're leaning.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
This is the directory they had to know because they're
paying these rosters. If they do know, they I think
it's fair. I think it's fair to go, hey, we're
about to start a season. What I don't necessarily think
the general public needs to know what each player is
being paid. Okay, I don't know if that's good, but
I strongly believe, and you should be recording this, Mario,

(12:14):
I strongly believe turn it on of all the times
to stop. Why did you stop right there?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
What do you strongly believe?

Speaker 3 (12:24):
I strongly believe that he should say what goes to
each program? It is the case that like ten percent
is going to go to like women's basketball slash baseball.
So let's assume two point six million dollars is going Okay,
that means there's eighteen million dollars left between football and
men's basketball. Mitch Barnhardt should be telling people where that

(12:49):
money is going. And I think it would be interesting
to see where the fans think it should go. Seven
seven two seven sevent four five two five four. What
should go to basketball? What you Let's assume it's eighteen
million dollars because I'm pretty sure ten percent is going
to go to baseball, women's basketball, et cetera. So throw
that two point six to the side. Eighteen million bucks,

(13:11):
which what goes to? What you got Matt Norlanders saying
we're going nine to nine? Yeah, right that. I haven't
got numbers, But the football people are saying we're going
to be competitive with the SEC, which is like fifteen
and three. So which is it? That's a big difference.
That's the difference between having the best basketball team in
the country and having a football team that cannot compete.

(13:35):
What are you gonna do? Mitch should tell us I
don't think there's do you Is there any reason to
hide that number?

Speaker 5 (13:42):
No?

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Not at all, especially when football is your money maker.
Your budget maker depends on what you bring in for football.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
And just so you know, the other SEC schools have acknowledged,
not publicly but kind of privately, we're doing the fifteen
and three. Yeah right, yeah, like everybody's everybody's greed fifteen
and thirty.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
So when you say, when your people were telling you
that they were gonna be competitive, like how.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
They do not say fifteen and three, but they said,
I don't know where people are getting the nine and nine.
That's not even close to accurate.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
And that seems pretty outrageous if they were to go
that route.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Do you think that maybe Mitch feels like if he
does put these numbers out, which I think he should,
but do you think maybe he's thinking, well, I'm just
gonna divide this fan base. I'm gonna have football fans
hating me.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Guess what, get over it? Like that you're being a
leader does not mean you're always gonna be popular. When
you make your leadership decisions only to be popular, you
know you're gonna get criticism. But I'll tell you this,
I'd much prefer him to get up and say it's
gonna be fourteen and four, it's gonna be thirteen and
what at five and explain why and let people know.

(14:46):
The worst position is to have it where fans are arguing,
like Drew said, and don't even know the correct information.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
Yeah, and as fans, we need to be able to
set our expectations. If football team win six games, but
I don't know if they had two million or twelve million,
there's a pretty big different.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
It's actually not fair to Mark Stoops if he's getting
half the money for people for people to not.

Speaker 8 (15:05):
Know that competing against schools that are competing.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
To get schools that have six to eight million more dollars.
People should know that. And by the way, if Mark
Pope's getting three times as much money as the teams
in the SEC Shane, and we should know that right games,
So I think that they should know eight five nine,
two eighth twenty two eighty seven. How would you split
the money? Text machine is seven seven two seven four

(15:30):
five two five four. We'll take a break right back, Canser,
welcome back, take you sports radio, Shan and I just
put on I had to bite the bullet and get readers.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Oh yeah, I see that.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
So it's really it's really only for my phone because like,
if I'm going to look at these texts, I noticed
I was squinning a lot, and I don't want to
get those old man lines.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Are you going to do like the old man thing,
like where you push him down to the bottom of
your nose.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Well, we were at the horse track, We're in the
for the oaks, and I had I had them on
and my friend Tall was like, look at old man, Matt,
because I did have them on my nose like she
was in fish.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
You can hang them around your neck.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yeah, I can't do that, but so I do. I
have to put these audits. It's either that or like
get like old man lines squinting. So I had I
have to put these on one person, rites, Matt. There
you go again, try to cause trouble in the athletic department.
Why don't you give Barnhardt time to address the issues.
That's become a big thing recently, people saying about leadership,

(16:35):
give them time. Well, how much time do you get?
I mean the season's about to start, right, so I
mean I'll give him the next week, but next Friday
he should get asked and if he gets out there
and says it'll be flexible, flexible is a good way
to not answer the question. The question is what is
the amount of money? And I'm fine if they say, well,
we don't want to give all the specifics, but we

(16:57):
are in line with you know, I'm okay with that.
But like, there's a big difference between nine and nine
and fifteen and three. Yeah, difference. There's a big difference.
So my question to you before we go to the phones,
because we've got people on is let's just assume it's
twenty point six million dollars. Two point six is going
to baseball and women's basketball. I think that's I think

(17:17):
that pretty much everyone in sports has agreed to do that. Okay,
because they some schools are giving baseball a little bit more,
but they've all agreed you can't give women's basketball and
women's sports nothing true, and you have to have a
baseball team. So let's just assume that's there eighteen million bucks.
You're in charge of the athletic department, not asking to

(17:38):
be goofy, be real, which are you? What are you
given to each program? Ryan?

Speaker 8 (17:42):
You go first, I'm probably going like somewhere around twelve
and six.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Twelve and six now, so that would be three million
less than the rest of the SEC in football and
double the rest of the SEC and basketball.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
I think that's what I think most of our fans
want to see our basketball program get to that level,
be the elite, and I think twelve mans Steel work
competitive with the other schools in the twick.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
What about you?

Speaker 5 (18:05):
I am doing uh, seventy percent, twenty percent, so it'd
be was that four million for basketball? Four ish four
to five ish little over four?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Okay, seventy and twenty Oh, I see, seventy and twenty got.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Youa football gets seventy percent of the pop.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
You're doing fourteen and four? Yeah, n four, Mario, Come
on up here, what are you doing now? Getting up,
get on the mic. I'm gonna go let's see. Uh.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
I'll probably go like eighty percent basketball and then the
rest of football.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
So you're going what like eighty percent, way man, eighty
percent basketball? Yeah, to get all the money. Yeah, so
you're going like fourteen fourteen to four basketball. Football only
gets four million dollars. I mean you're gonna put like
a team on the feat.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
He wants to unplug Kroger Field forever?

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Are you? Are you serious about these? Serious? So you
want fourteen. So like you're just saying I want the
best basketball team on Earth and the football team who cares? Yes, Okay,
all right, well that's that's an opinion, Shannon. What about yours?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yep, I'm sticking with my number that I had a
couple of months ago when we had this conversation, I
said nine million for the basketball team, nine for the
football team. If you remember, most people agreed with me.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
So you want to be on you want Norlanders report
to be true? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, all right, I'm going
twelve and a half five, twelve and a half, five
and a half. I'd like to have enough that we
can get whatever basketball player we want. But I don't
think you need nine for basketball.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
You know, you want to be paying your eighth guy
two million, pretty neat.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
So I'm gonna say, and then football at twelve and
a half, it'll be almost like the Tampa Bay Rays,
Like they can't spend as much as the Dodgers, but
if they're smart, they can make the World Series. Yes,
so I would say that that's me.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
I don't think my nine million is right though, because
if you see how grateful Mark Stoops is, he wouldn't
be grateful if he's only getting nine million, so I
think obviously my number is wrong.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
That's what you would say, Yes, yes, yeah, all right,
let's go to Adam. Go ahead, Adam. What would you do, Matt?

Speaker 9 (20:07):
I would go pretty close to you. I was thinking
seventy thirty. You know, you're not really doubling everybody's budget
for basketball, but you still got a lot there for football.
And that had a question of you know, I like
the idea of putting more to basketball than everybody else,
but isn't there a sense of like, now you're the

(20:28):
New York Yankees. If you spend more than everybody else,
if you spend double more than everybody else, that yes,
you know pressures.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
There you better win, better win.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
You're exactly right, But that I mean, I would argue,
and I appreciate the call. That's been the expectation of
UK basketball my whole life. The expectation is we put
more into the program, we have more fans that go,
we care more. At some points in our history we've
cheated more, like I mean, like there's I think that
expectation has always been on Kentucky. Yes, so.

Speaker 8 (20:57):
You know, and every year they expect to get another
band that's the expectation.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
And while in basketball that will be a very big expectation,
in football, we can be the plucky underdog. We can
be the people like Vanderbilt that when we win a
big game, it's like, well they don't spend as much
as everybody, it's even more impressive that they win.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
That's why it's so important people need to know. If
I know my team won in Starkville with one hand
behind their back because they had half the budget of
the team they're playing, that win, even though it's not
a Georgia Texas, that's going to mean a lot more.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
That's why people should know. Now I know somebody who's
going to disagree, which is Jerry, So go ahead, Jerry.

Speaker 10 (21:33):
Oh yeah, I'm at fifteen in three okay, And here's
I mean outside of the side like football better better.
We'll set that aside. How are you going to say
your bills, matt if because what they're talking about doing
is a sure far away. Do you play in the
SEC again with a mac roster and getting killed and
then people don't.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Come, and then people don't come and that's a fair fat.

Speaker 10 (21:59):
And you take once again four years. The administrations take
advantage of the fact that EUK football fans has been
very long until that stadium for Charriable football. I don't
think that's going to happen again. I think that if
they do this, how you're gonna pay your bills at
twenty or thirty thousand people in that stadium.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
That is I appreciate the call, and that is that's
why you can't do Mario's position, because if people don't come,
football pays for everything else.

Speaker 8 (22:24):
Football is your budget.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
I mean, there is Jerry. While we've he's frustrated us
at some point in the last couple weeks, he's not
wrong about no, if you put a team out there
that's uncompetitive, that will hurt your budget overall. So that's
why this is such a balancing act. But it's also
why I would say, Mitch Barnhart, you have to tell
people what's happening. You have to know so at least

(22:47):
this debate can be informed with actual numbers. Eight five
nine two eight h twenty two eighty seven. Let us know.
We got other stuff to get to as well. But
I think this is the most important thing for the
future of UK sports is this conversation. TJ. Smith Personal
injury attorney called TJ He'll make them.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
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Here's Matt Jones, Welcome.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Back Tekey Sports Radio. If I'm nine, two, eight, twenty
two eighty seven folks on the text machine, given their numbers,
I think a lot of them kind of come to
where uh mine and Drews are that kind of thirteen
and five, although there are some Shannon nine and nine.
Mario doesn't have a lot of people agreeing with his
that I've seen yet, But one person writes, Matt, why

(23:33):
don't you make your phone font size larger so you
don't have to squint? I don't like that, because I
don't when you see other people's phone with the big thing,
you can read their text messages, and I don't want
people reading everything like you know, you see older people
like you've got these big, huge words. It feels like
you know what's in their lives, right.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
And that's just that's taking another leap farther than minting
like glasses. Okay, that's one chapter you've moved on, but
it's not that far into the book when you're like recently,
I pulled up my phone to look at a menu
at a restaurant. Yeah, I thought, oh no, I've reached
that age. Yeah, that's still small step. Glasses the next step.
But if you're doing the large font, you've tapped out.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
You're one step away from breil. At that point, you
can't you.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Can't do that. One person says, Matt. You're not gonna
stay young forever. Reading glasses are in your future. It
is tough to like, though, when I went to the
drug store and bought the what was it, plus one,
and I look though, but there was like plus one
point five, plus two, plus two point five, and I
was like, well, I'm not there yet, I'm just at plus.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
One scientific way to find out your prescription.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
I didn't realize though, that you could. I mean, I
didn't realize that the drug store, you know, you go
to the I get contacts and stuff, and you go
and you get a very specific prescription, and then all
of a sudden, they're just like, just get a plus one. Yeah,
and so.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
They're out there with the candy like when you're checking out,
like twenty.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Bucks for plus one two. One person says, Matt, I
saw you at lunch yesterday with my wife and saw
your glasses. It threw me off a little bit. But
my one tell you, my wife said you look good
in glasses. That's very nice of your wife. I was
eating the hamburger.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Did you have did you have a plus one for lunch?
Or was it just you?

Speaker 3 (25:08):
I was just thinking my plus one's That's the problem
is right now my only plus one at lunch or
my glasses nine two eight twenty two eighty seven. One
person writes, Matt, what if we just punted on football
and got good at every sport but football? I know
that wouldn't work from a budget standpoint, but do you

(25:30):
think our fans would be cool if we were good
at baseball, women's basketball, men's basketball, but just not football?

Speaker 5 (25:37):
The football The whole country, the whole country in the
conference care about football? Sticking out your chest? I mean
I love those sports, but sticking out our chests saying
we're winning all those when everyone else is competing in football.
I don't know if that's where you want to be
as a fan.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't think you can do that.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Can't.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Also, I do think whenever they say what these numbers are,
it'll have an effect on how we get coaches in
the future.

Speaker 8 (25:59):
Oh yes, it does, because.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
You think a coach is gonna come here if he
knows he's always gonna be playing with one hand behind his.

Speaker 8 (26:04):
Back, you know.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
So there was a conspiracy theory going around that one
of the reasons Vince left because he knew this was
coming and he wasn't the football wasn't gonna get a
lot of money, so he bolted.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Pausible. I don't think that's why he left, but I
think if you were making the argument for why Louisville
could be in a better position going forward. But the
problem for Louisville and schools in the ACC is they
better change something if to even have the twenty point
six million dollars to give away, A lot of schools
are not going to have that, right, Kentucky's gonna have it.
There are schools out there that are going to struggle

(26:34):
to have that twenty point six million dollars. I'm not
sure if Louisvill's gonna be one of them. We got
to see how stuff develops. But if this had started
four years ago, when Kenny Payne and Steve Cragthorpe were here,
then I think Louisville would have had a hard time
coming up with that twenty point six million dollars.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
The thing about Hires and them looking at where budgets are,
it's quote match, it is fluid. They can slide it
a little bit. And I have this thought, if we
all agree Pope will be here longer than stoops, whatever's
groups of time's left, will there be a time where,
like we have this big fish Pope, we gotta just
slide a little more to football to get it done.
And maybe Pope will just have to take one for
the team there and help out on making a big

(27:10):
higher well.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
And the other part of Norlander's article was we don't
know how much people are gonna cheat, right, I mean
a lot of Norlander was like, there's still this belief
that the collectives are still gonna do with the collectives do.
One of the things we've seen is that our collective
is crushing on the basketball side, which I'll say this

(27:31):
about John, about Mark Pope, John Calperry. Everybody can have
their beliefs on who has the more exciting style play,
who gets the players you want, who will have the
most success. Here's a fact. It's indisputable. You cannot argue
with it. It's a fact, if we had still been
rolling with Caliperry in this new era, we'd be in

(27:55):
trouble because the collectives with Cal Perry were raising no money, none,
people were out on it. And if we were trying
to go into this new era with the excitement we
had with Cal, we'd have no shot. Now, could we
still get high school guys? Hopefully? But remember they launched

(28:16):
the Law Familiar Collective and it raised like thirty one dollars.
It's still up.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
It's pretty embarrassing. Just please, if you're out there listening,
to delete the site. It's hard to look at it.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
It's got the little meter like ours a million and
we have one thousand hill meters.

Speaker 8 (28:29):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
So that's important, I think, to realize how bad it
could have been in the other system.

Speaker 7 (28:36):
Steve, go ahead, Steve, Hey, you know, man, I don't
know if it would help the Tucky football. They gave
him every dime of twenty million dollars. I think Kentucky
football is just kind of tread and water. They put
a lot of money into the facilities, they're paying the
coach big money, you know I and all that stuff,

(28:57):
and they're just really not really not competitive. And let's
see say, and I don't know what's gonna stop it.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Well, I don't know if that's fair. I mean, they
weren't particularly competitive last year, although they did win at
Ole Miss. But I mean we've had a number of
years where we were as competitive as we've been in
my lifetime. I mean, if you mean competitive, like winning
the league, I'm not sure that's ever gonna happen. But
I think three years yeah, yeah, but I mean.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
Competitive, that's I don't think that's true, though, George on
the Roads, you.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Say they're not. I mean we won ten games like
four years ago.

Speaker 7 (29:36):
I love Kentucky, but that's not fair.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Though to say not competitive. If you're taking if competitive
is win the national championship, then fine. But ten games
at Kentucky is historically a very rare occurrence.

Speaker 7 (29:53):
I understand. And that's the reason why Stupents is still
there because he got ten wins twice. I mean, man,
he's got it made. But you know Kentucky football, Kentucky
is a basketball school and a football league, and they're
just basically tread and water. You've got Oklahoma in, You've

(30:13):
got Texas in. Kentucky is just vis a vis those
teams they're not. They're not getting better, but the conference is.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Well Oklahoma stunk last year and I appreciate the call,
but I mean, I'm not There's a difference between have
we been better in the last two years and can
we ever be good? Those are different conversations. We have
not been better in the last two years. Can we
ever be good? Yeah, because we've been good before. Now
can we ever win a title? My argument would be no,

(30:46):
But that is what it is. I think part of
that is, you know, it's not as important now as
it once was, but we don't produce the players other
places do. We are playing a road game in every
recruit right, playing a road game in every recruitment. It's
gotten better in the last few years. More players are
coming from here than used to. But it's still, I mean,

(31:06):
our best years. We still have a third of the
players in these other SEC states.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Up until the last two years, Stoops run has been
some of the best we've ever had in UK football here. Ever,
Bear Bryant and Mark Stoops that they're runs last two
years have been a little disappointing. Okay, get back on
the horse, get to get it to get the job done.

Speaker 8 (31:25):
I think that's gonna happen. I'm leaning that way.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
You're grateful.

Speaker 8 (31:28):
We need to listen, we need twelve million dollars.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Well, twelve million dollars that is gonna be less than everybody.

Speaker 8 (31:34):
We still need. You know, that's an we're three less.
That's just a couple of players we can get by
with out.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
You know, we'll spend it wisely. It's about how you
spend that twelve mill.

Speaker 8 (31:42):
Yeah, we'll develop a couple three star guy.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
That's what the Reds people have been saying for years.

Speaker 11 (31:45):
Mike, go ahead, Mike, Yeah, I'm kind of more in
a line with Mario, but I know that that's not realistic.
So I would say, like twelve you just say it
like I or pretty much just age. So Kentucky's probably
not gonna win a football championship if you get Mark
Stoops one hundred billion dollars in our lifetime. So just

(32:08):
you know, we're definitely we got a chance to win
a basketball championship this year, So we definitely need to
give football a semi fire shape. But it doesn't matter
what you give Stoops. I mean, he gets nine million
now a year for himself and that you know, I
just he's going to brow a game in the end
with four o'clock management. Whatever.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Well, that's you know, I appreciate call. Let me ask
you this. Let's say you got Nick Saban in his
private Kentucky and you gave him fifteen million dollars and
all the other schools have fifteen million dollars too. Could
he make a playoff at Kentucky?

Speaker 8 (32:46):
Yeah, I'm in the boat.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Yes, yeah, something about him, Yes, he would figure out
a way to get it done.

Speaker 8 (32:53):
He's the elite of the elite.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
You think he could.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Yeah, because recruits would just want to be there because
of him, because all.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
You think Belichick should win.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
Do people want to play for him as much?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Especially in all seriousness Belichick, most people would say greatest
or one of the two or three greatest NFL coaches ever.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
But in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
But if they're seven and five at North Carolina, then
why isn't Saban seven and five at Kentucky.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
Well, for me, if I'm a recruit, I'm seeing Saban
has made so many NFL players. That's why he's more attractive.
I see him as the path where Belichick.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
I will say that. All right, So let me make
the case even though I don't believe this case totally.
Let me make the case for football, all right, It
used to be the case when you weren't paying players
that Kentucky had no shot. Okay, we didn't have enough
recruits in the state, We had no tradition our fans.
This was more basketball than football. Kentucky had no shot.

(33:51):
The theory behind a capped salary cap of fifteen million
dollars would be now that stuff is gone, and now
it's just who can balance the budget better. Now it's
the NFL, where you can be in any market. It
can be Kansas City and Buffalo playing in the AFC
Championship while the Jets and LA sit at home. That's

(34:13):
the argument. And so I don't necessarily know that that's true,
but that's the argument. So if you got the right coach,
he's got the same salary cap everybody else does, then
he's got a chance to do I don't know if
I believe that, but that I think there is an
argument that Kentucky would have a better shot at doing

(34:34):
it in this world than they could have in the
previous world. Does that make sense? Yes?

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yeah, If you lose coach Stoops is gonna be harder
to attract a top level coach knowing that you're coming
in your budget is not as much as the other schools.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
Yeah, you don't have to change the budget to make
it higher. If whatever it is right now, if it's
so basketball heavy.

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right back, kysorry, Welcome back tech you sports radio. Your
girlfriend just wrote Drew and said you you have big text.

Speaker 8 (35:31):
Look can't you read my text from there?

Speaker 3 (35:34):
I can read it from here, My goodness, old man, she.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
Said, I noticed Ryan's being very quiet.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
I was not going to participate in that conversation because
I am in that category.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
So you have a big old man text.

Speaker 8 (35:44):
I do, yes.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Don't you worry about people seeing them?

Speaker 8 (35:47):
Don't care. That's another part of being an old man.
You just don't care what other people think.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
You are pretty good? Yeah, just read me your last text.

Speaker 7 (35:55):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (35:55):
Well, I've been texting Keith Madison form a UK baseball coach.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
If you're Keith Madison been say well.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
I asked him if you've got an old UK baseball jersey,
we can hang in the restaurant and get a friend
and hang because we and he's got one.

Speaker 8 (36:06):
He's got what he's gonna let us have.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Okay, but we should also try to get one from
you know, maybe now present day.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
Yeah, i'll tell you about that during the break.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Oh oh, this is more interesting.

Speaker 8 (36:21):
I can't say anything. I'll tell you during the break.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Sounds like we have an updates. Something wrong?

Speaker 8 (36:27):
It must be.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Have you been fighting with MENNGI on? No, I haven't
been somebody has I haven't been here?

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Be a fountain, not a drain, Ryan, Come on?

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, why aren't you being a fountain? Cast bar me
to come on? We might as well, we might as well.
I mean, this is good. This is important. This is
what the people want. Restaurant. Yeah, this is the people's restaurant.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
They're picking the saucege.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
I really don't know what's going on, but we we
are unable to obtain a current baseball jersey in the UK.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Did you offer to pay for it? Or did you
ask for a free one?

Speaker 4 (36:57):
We could buy a replica at the bookstore, Like everybody,
what did you ask for a jersey? You asked for
just a free jersey, an old jersey that we can
get framed and hang in the restaurant.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Okay, well, I mean it'd be nice of them to
give it, but also I don't expect them to give Yeah,
so did you just get all hoity toity when they asked? Okay, well,
maybe maybe Minion will hear this. I can't believe he
would say.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
No, you made me think there was like bad blood.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Maybe you made me mad. Have you all been fighting?
What's good?

Speaker 8 (37:27):
No?

Speaker 5 (37:28):
You're getting rid?

Speaker 3 (37:29):
You are getting red. What's been happening with you in Minion?
Is there a Ryan Lemon Minji on fight that we
don't know about?

Speaker 8 (37:36):
It was definitely not. We even tried to get him
on that.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Wait a minute, here we go tried to get him mad.
You know, why didn't he come on when you were
on vacation we had Why didn't he come on? He
did he didn't like you he was on vacation. Yeah,
it sounds like he might not like you.

Speaker 8 (37:51):
Maybe maybe maybe we should have.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Sent somebody else. Now, I no, don't send Ryan to
the baseball can'ts in Mario either. He wants them to
have zen dollars. Yeah, basket. Just to give an example
on the recruiting thing, real quick, I'm gonna read you.
Somebody sent me this the amount of five star recruits
from each SEC state. Are you ready ready? Florida in
the last ten years? Okay? Florida fifty nine, Texas forty five,

(38:17):
Georgia thirty nine, Alabama twenty one, Mississippi nine, Tennessee eight,
South Carolina five, Oklahoma four, Missouri three, Kentucky two.

Speaker 8 (38:34):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
So we're going up against states that have fifty nine,
forty five, thirty nine seventeen, fourteen, nineteen, and we have two. Wow.

Speaker 8 (38:46):
That says a lot right there.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
So, I mean that says a lot. You know. I
like to mention when restaurants win awards. Yes, they had
the Shannon Top ten biscuits in America ru biscuits. Yeah,
everybody likes a good biscuit. Top ten biscuits in America,
and the Kentucky location came in six yes, okay, sixth
best biscuit in the United States. Does anybody know where

(39:11):
it would be? So these aren't chain places, they're local,
Well local biscuit. Sixth best biscuit in the United States
is in Kentucky. Where do we think the six best
biscuit is?

Speaker 4 (39:23):
We're just gonna throw out spit ball some options. What's
that restaurant called in Casey County?

Speaker 3 (39:29):
You're talking about the Amish restaurant. Yeah, it's like Lord's
Prayer or something.

Speaker 8 (39:34):
I guess that's not it.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Though, that's not it. I would have the neighbors. Uh
do you even remember their biscuits?

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, they're good, all right, big fluffy biscuits.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Okay, anybody else can't narrow it down. It's in Louisville.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
Oh I'm not good at Louisville biscuits.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Anybody want to know, don't go out biscuit shopping.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
I'll tell you what before I say it. Let's see. Well,
but people will google it. Never mind, The answer is
butcher Town Grocery Bakery. Okay Town Grocery Bakery. Have you
been there, Shannon, No, it's not very far from where
I live. It's just you know, it's where they used
to slaughter them hogs. Butchertown. The Butchertown Grocery Bakery sixth

(40:19):
the best biscuits in the United States. They are said
to be fluffy and delect and delicious, and the line
can be out the door on Saturday mornings to get
the freshest.

Speaker 8 (40:29):
Wow, no kidding, never even heard.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Of this place, but I will tell you one of
these weekends where I have nothing to do, I'm going
to find my way to the butcher Town Grocery Bakery
for the sixth best biscuits in the United States?

Speaker 5 (40:42):
Is Charles's all? Give us an update, take Mario and
make a little video out of it.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
One mile from where I'm at right now. Maybe I
don't know if they're open later, but I might just
swing by and get a biscuit.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
You might just have one biscuit, please, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
I need to see if this is the sixth best biscuit.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
If you've been let me know on the text machine.
They gotta be good. If they're the sixth best in
the country.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Line is out the door for it on Saturday morning.
They've got to be good, Jacob, go ahead, Jacob.

Speaker 6 (41:06):
Hey, Matt, I just wanted to talk about the riff share.
I think that I think Kentucky's kind of magic number
is thirteen and a half. Four and a half.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yeah, that's exactly where I was.

Speaker 6 (41:23):
Yeah, I think that that is that is kind of
where we need to be. Gives us a slight edge
for basketball, while you know, remaining competitive with recruiting in
the SEC for football. I think when it comes to money,
we have it in our minds like money is going
to equal success, and that's just not always the case.

(41:46):
I'm a Pacers fan, and they are not one of
those teams that go into the luxury tax for they intentionally.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
But then there's baseball and not to cut you off,
we're about to go to break, but I appreciate it.
Then there's baseball where money doesn't guarantee success, but not
spending money guarantees you won't have success. So and they
just got to the College World Series, the Indiana Pacers.

Speaker 8 (42:15):
No UK baseball team. Don't you want to give some
money to you? Ka baseball.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
We weren't talking to We're talking about Major League baseball.