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July 23, 2025 • 42 mins

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Speaker 4 (00:58):
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Speaker 5 (01:05):
I remember two Kentucky Sports Radio EIGHTF I'm nine two
eight oh twenty two eighty seven. Uh text machine seven
seven two seven seven four five two five four ask
anything Wednesday? People coming in, One person says, Matt, would you?
I always like, what do you tell me how things
work behind the scenes with media companies? Do you have
anything with ESPN? Well, I could give you a ton

(01:27):
of stuff, but I also like to like what I
would say about ESPN. And this is true about every
media company. It's true about iHeart. It was true about
WLAX when I worked there. It is, at the end
of the day, just people who are a lot more
disorganized than you think they are. So like people think

(01:50):
there are these grand decisions that get made that have
some sort of ideology or like most of the time
it's just like people going, okay, now what you know?
And human beings are human beings, so like they have
like egos, And then sometimes people get their feelings hurt
and and a lot of times on ESPN Radio, sometimes

(02:11):
it'll be the day of the show and they don't
even know who's going to host that night. I'll get
calls sometimes Shennon at like one pm that says, can
you host the show at seven o'clock tonight.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
And if it weren't ESPN, the answer would probably be no, because.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Well, sometimes I try to do it, but then sometimes
I don't because like I just can't. But I mean,
sometimes they'll just be a few hours before the show
and they're scrambling to find a host. Like that happens
all the time. Yeah, and then you have you know,
So there's just a lot of things that go about.
I was mentioning iHeart. iHeart produces a national set of
programming that every station in the country can have. It

(02:47):
includes like Clay and Buck, Sean Hannity, The Alien Show, Delilah,
and you get to choose what you want. But there's
only one show that every market in America is forced
to take, and that's the Clay and Buck Show.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
And they had to take it at twelve.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
You have to take it. You're not allowed to not
take it. And it's a legacy. It's not even that
their show does particularly well. It does okay, but it
doesn't do what rush Limbaugh did. But that's a legacy
of rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh would force them to take it.
So now every station in the country has to take it.
ESPN has that with their morning show on ESPN. They

(03:26):
have a whole day of programming. You don't have to
take any of it if you don't want, but you
have to take the morning show, which used to be Keishawn,
Jaywill and Zubin and now is I think it's called
unrivaled or unscripted or whatever. So unsportsmen like that's what
that's what it is, and you have to take that.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
I've been getting text about unsportsmen like this morning. Did
you know right now? Their current topic is compared the
Dallas Cowboys to Love Island. That's the show everyone has
to take, have to take. Okay, I've hosted it.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
It's early in the morning, mean early in the morning.
If I'm nine two eight oho twenty two eighty seven.
One person writes, Matt, I am always on Shannon's side
when it comes to conspiracies. Are you finally willing to
give him one on the Epstein thing?

Speaker 7 (04:18):
No?

Speaker 5 (04:19):
But yeah, you know I may attack conspiracy theory, but Shannon.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Were slowly bringing it to the other side with this one.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
This is the one, this one.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
I don't know what it's going to break.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
You, because the thing is if they didn't. If there's
not something there, why are they acting like there's something?

Speaker 6 (04:40):
Why they just release it?

Speaker 8 (04:41):
Then?

Speaker 5 (04:41):
Like you ran saying you were going to release all
this stuff and now like you're not.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
So there's gotta be something in there you don't want to.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
I'm not saying there is.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
I have no idea, But wouldn't you.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
If you're not gonna, if you're not guilty, why are
you acting guilty?

Speaker 6 (04:57):
Yep?

Speaker 7 (04:58):
You know what I mean, Shannon. That's the thing for me.
You're not guilty, Why you act.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Unless you just believe there is no less?

Speaker 5 (05:04):
But if they and I actually think that is more likely,
But then why did you.

Speaker 7 (05:09):
Run for years saying there.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Was maybe not even knowing.

Speaker 7 (05:15):
That's why I don't like conspiracy theories.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
People just say stuff they don't know it, but they
still say it with conviction. And that's why I don't
like conspiracy.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
So now is their pressure to produce one of.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
I think they should get up and say one of
two things. Get up and say there's nothing and we
were wrong to for years act like there was, or
release it. Well, just one of those two things.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
Yeah, I don't think it's wrong.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
I don't think either one of those things are gonna
happen because I don't either.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
I don't either, but like I still, I mean, I'm
not a conspiracy theorist, but you it's like when the
dog chases and catches the car. Now you've caught the car,
Now you run government, Well you gonna do about it.
You hought the car you were barking at for years.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
This is why I don't like any of it. They're
all full of it. I mean, they made this big
deal and then you get to it and then they're
telling us not a big deal. I feel that way
about every topic political. Everyone's full of it.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
But so Shannon. I'm still not a conspiracy theory person.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
But sounds like you are to me what was.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Before?

Speaker 4 (06:22):
You'll be up late.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
I'm gonna start wearing hat I'm not. I'm not, I'm
not budgets.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
We'll have you at the Denver Airport in no time.

Speaker 7 (06:35):
Aaron, go ahead, Aaron, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (06:38):
Why don't you all live stream or film the show?

Speaker 5 (06:42):
We should? I don't know why we don't. I mean,
I know why we don't. Yeah, But that's an old
mentality we gotta get over. I mean, another old mentality
that we need to get over. I mean more people
now listen to this radio show on podcast, then on

(07:03):
then live, So why do we fix everything to the
old diary method. To your point, Aaron, we should stream
this live on YouTube. We already put all the clips up.
There was I don't mean to get into the history
of radio, but there was a time when I first
started where they wouldn't let me put up a podcast.

(07:23):
Zach and I did it kind of rogue, and we
didn't tell anybody because I was like, podcast is the future,
and they said, well, we don't want to do that,
And now podcast is the biggest thing they have YouTube.
Like three or four years ago, they said we don't
want it on YouTube because we want people to listen live.
Now they're talking about building the studio for us to

(07:45):
stream live on YouTube. So you got to go where
the audience is. Yeah, if you try to tell the
audience where to go, you lose. You got to go
where the audience is. I would say within a year
we will have it streaming live on YouTube. The problem is,
and I appreciate the call, I don't know what we
do when we go un remote because we can't take

(08:05):
take the We can create a studio equipment, at the bar,
and we can create it here. But I don't think
we can stream live from every place we go remote.
I don't really know what we would do.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
And we're pretty spontaneous. It can be a Sunday night
and you're like, oh, Tuesday, we're at this random place,
and it's just a lot of undertaking to set up
those last streams on that.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
This has always been a fight of mine. You know,
when we hired Mario, there was a time they didn't
want me to put clips out of the show. They
didn't want me to put clips out.

Speaker 7 (08:33):
Of the show.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
I was like, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard,
but they said, no, we want people to listen, no clips.
And then finally they came around and now Mario has
brought in a massive new audience just by putting clips out.

Speaker 7 (08:48):
But I had to fight for years.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
To get them to put in put out clips.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
You can understand why they want people on the radio,
but people will just not go to the radio. They'll
find other clips to watch of other people they're watching clips.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
I mean, a perfect example for me is I don't
ever listen to Joe Rogan or theo Von or Shane Gillis,
but I see their clips and so I know what
they're doing. And then like Joe Rogan has a guest
on that I normally would never listen to him, but
I see a clip and I'm like, oh, I'd like
to hear what that person has to say. So the
clips make me go listen to the podcast Shannon, So like,

(09:20):
you gotta do it.

Speaker 7 (09:21):
I understand doing that.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
I think their argument is don't do it live, because
then you go from a radio show to go to
a TV show. At that point, fine, there are many
examples of shows that or whatever.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
Goodell the ad sell the ads on YouTube DVDs. Yeah,
I mean you can't keep people like I'm sure Cable
hates streaming, but guess what got adapt If they were
only you want to be Kodak, you want to be BlackBerry.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
If there were only cameras in this studio, we can
maybe set up and do that.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
And they won't turn them on. So it's just but
but I they to be fair to them. They are
coming around it.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
Yeah, that's the future.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yeah, Judy, go ahead, Judy, Hey, how are you all good?

Speaker 7 (10:08):
What's up?

Speaker 8 (10:10):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Okay, welcome back, Carter and cheers.

Speaker 7 (10:16):
Yeah, those are older, but those are good songs.

Speaker 8 (10:18):
Yes, yeah, those are my picks. And I'm really sad
about the game.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
But it was very exciting last night.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
It was exciting. I appreciate the call. It did look
to me like a bigger crowd than it did.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
It looked like it was pretty close to being full.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
Ah. I don't think it was full up top, but
I mean I still think there were five or six
thousand people, which on a random night is good.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Heck yeah, And I'm sure most people might have skipped
the first ones knowing heck, there could be five six
of these games and Lexington and kind of holding onto
the competition. Guy good, just the same. Shame in round
three it's already over.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Yes, I would love to see more games. I feel
like if Willy, I feel like if he had been
a little more prepared, he would have absolute.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
You would have loved last year because when Willie and
Bledsoe flipped a switch, there was no one in the
entire tournament that could do anything about it.

Speaker 7 (11:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Yeah, we had.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Bled so fresh off a career of averaging like ten
points in the NBA the season before.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yeah, yeah, that would be They would not be able
to stop because they just aren't big guys like Willie
in the league. What about DeMarcus we should have What
if DeMarcus played, he could dominate, couldn't he?

Speaker 3 (11:23):
I was holding out hope they'd get him because he's
been in Puerto Rico. I think we all saw what
happened Puerto Rico. He's lowered his bar on where he's playing.
I thought he would love to come back and be
a part of it. About Wall, I heard they were
close with Wall real Cousins were at least considering it
and just didn't come around.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
If Wall had played like no one could, it.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Would have been sold out.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
I mean, first life long Cousins play the game, so
I think it has to be the next step for
them to keep the energy behind it. Don't you think
Shannon Wall and Cousins sells the place out?

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Yep, just those two big personalities.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
It's just having John Wall in there would be. He's
still electric, He's still the most In my opinion, we
will never have a basketball player at Kentucky that was
as much of a rock star as John Wall was.
Rex Chapman and John Wall two biggest rock stars here,
and I don't think there's ever been anybody close.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
You know, we've had beloved players.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
Reed was beloved, Oscar was beloved, Anthony Davis was beloved,
the Twin. I mean, we've had but rock stars stars
John Wall, Rex Chat Yep, biggest two rock lists. That's
the list, and I don't think anybody will be close.
And then on football, Jared Lorenzo and Tim.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Kasp Even if John Wall couldn't play his health or
his we're not in shape. Just having him on the
roster and playing him a little bit makes a huge difference.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
I agree DeMarcus would be good, but my concern would
be like last year when Onawaku spit on Natesstina, I
think DeMarcus might actually rip their arms off.

Speaker 7 (12:57):
And beat them with I would have cheered, though, jor
go ahead, Junior.

Speaker 9 (13:04):
Hey guys, I was going to ask you to retell
a story from years and years ago. A friend of
mine emailed me a link to one of your blog
posts about a porn star in Kansas that was suing you,
and I don't think you've ever told it on the radio,
and I remember your spot response was just go ahead

(13:27):
and sue me. I'm wearing bel crow shoes. I just.

Speaker 7 (13:33):
Going to get my shoes.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
This was more Drew than me, so I appreciate the call.
There was there was a porn star that was a
Kansas fan. What was her name, Samantha Ryan, Samantha Ryan,
and she there was trash talking between Kentucky and Kansas,
and she made some kind of joke about Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
She did five reasons being a Kansas fan is better
than being a Kentucky fan.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
And then Drew did a response blog post, some of
which I don't feel comfortable reading on the air, but
one of the things that you you made fun of
a lot of things. And then her lawyer wrote us
and threatened to sue us, saying that we defamed the

(14:16):
porn star by you saying she drinks bourbon.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, I made a little joke about having bourbon.

Speaker 7 (14:22):
Yeah, that basically that was defamation.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
And I just thought it was ridiculous that, I mean,
if people want to be in porn, that's fine, but
that you would say my reputation has been hurt by
you saying I drink bourbon when all these other things happened.
And so I said, if you want to sue us,
sue us. And then of course she did not sue us.
And there was a back and forth. But yes, we

(14:47):
were threatened, and that was back when we had no money.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
I was brand new.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
She was threatening, like, you said you could sue, you
can take my velcrowch es.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
You say you had no money, I like, by definition,
had no money to my name at that point.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
Yeah. Oh I didn't have any money then either. I
mean I was completely broke in well, two thousand and nine,
the last year of Billy honestly the John Wallyear, the
John wall year, I was broke. I was practicing law,
trying to get a law firm off the ground. We
were paying our bills basically, and I was traveling to

(15:24):
all these games and just paying for it out of
my pocket. I went over my bank account a lot.
It's the most fun year I've ever had. But I
think for the year on my tax return, I filed
negative money. No, I'm serious. And then I got the
TV show and got this radio show and was able
to like make a little money. But twenty ten, one

(15:45):
of the things that I have such a good memory
about with the John Waldonmarcus Cousin season is I was
so happy and enjoying it, but we were both broke.
But it was kind of fun, you know what I mean,
Like we didn't have the worries of I don't know,
do you know where we're trying to start something. But
we're trying to but if you said to be this,
we would feel like.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
What that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
I mean, we're trying to start something new and we
were having this fun ride. I mean, it was still
exciting to be around the team and all that, but
we had no money.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
When they played Yukon. I drove to New York and
didn't even sleep in the city.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yeah. I slept in a hotel where I thought I
was going to get killed in New York?

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Do we sleep in our car? I didn't even know
what we did. But I had to see John Waller's Yukon,
so we're like garden it's fifteen hours away.

Speaker 5 (16:30):
Hop Yeah, but those are great memories like those to me,
they'll never be a professional working year of my life
that I was happier than I was during that John
Walla season. But I also had no money, which is
part of why. Like money, as you know, right, doesn't
buy happiness. We've talked about that, and you would do

(16:50):
it all over again when you Yeah, I've never had
more fun.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Are you backing your belly button with your shirt up
as we're having this deep talk?

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Itchld shirt off and he is picking the inside of.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Has his shirt over the top of where his belly
and he's picking.

Speaker 7 (17:04):
That's why we don't have cameras.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
This is one time I'm glad I'm not in the studio.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
If we had a stream right now, the comments would
be going crazy.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
We'll take a break right back, chaos. They could buy
you a boat, but uh well, person of rights, Matt
this on text machine. I started listening or started reading
you guys around the time Cal and then we're here.
You always seemed like you had the most fun. Yeah,
it was fun. And the next year was really fun too.

(17:33):
The freeing this year, that was a really fun year.
By the National championship year, it started to get where
I was so nervous. Yeah no, I'm serious, Like I
started getting so nervous in the twenty twelve year that
I I just it wasn't quite the same level of
fun it was those first two years.

Speaker 7 (17:51):
Plus it was KL was so new one, I mean,
Cal was so new during that time, Like it was
the best of Cal.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, he would be like I was wrong once nineteen
seventy nine, and I was like, Shannon.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
What good jokes?

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Yeah, it was all great when he was winning, but then, yeah,
you get old real quick.

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Speaker 7 (18:34):
Let's go to Tristan. Go ahead, Tristan, Tristan.

Speaker 10 (18:40):
Gentlemen, Yes, Mar gentlemen. Uh So, two quick things first, Ozzie,
I hope he is resting in resting in peace wherever
he is with Ramsey Rhoads and Alistair Crowley. So, Matt,
this is a guitar player. Yeah, sorry, that was badly worded. Okay,
this is a ask anything question, Matt in the veane

(19:02):
of things that you used to say that you don't
say anymore. You used to freely grant quite a lot,
and I was just wondering, did you start charging for
freely granting or did you just stop giving away points
in argument?

Speaker 7 (19:13):
I appreciate it all. I did say that quite a bit.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Yes, somebody wrote a minute ago about whether or not
Drew you and I have had this conversation.

Speaker 7 (19:22):
We used to say things we would never say that, Like.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
When I go back and look at the blog post
we wrote back, and I can't believe I wrote some
of that stuff, don't you. I mean, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Some of it's being young, some of it's the times
and not blaming the times, but like it was a
diver time.

Speaker 7 (19:36):
I would think about it.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
And this is a famous example, like the Hangover trailer,
the stuff that's in it, and I'm like, they put
that in the Hangover trailer.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
Yeah, it's just I can't believe some of this stuff.
Like That's why I tend to give people a little
bit of a break when like you see a clip
of them saying something in like two thousand and five,
and you go how could they say that. Well, I
mean I read some of the old blog posts and
I go, I can't believe if I wrote that, But
it was You're right, we were younger. But it was
also just a different time in the internet, Like the

(20:05):
Internet was a lot more. I don't know, it was different.
It was just but I'm not excusing it, but it
was just a different time.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
I'm watching The Man Show on Comedy Central.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
It's a perfect example, like you could have that now
and blogs were like that. I mean, you know, it's
kind of makes freaks me out to think we used
to just like Shannon put a picture of a hot
UK fan up on the top of the side. Yeah,
but I'm kind of like, but back then, that's what
everybody did.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Right, And you can't apply everything to today's standards for
what you did back then because back then it was fun.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
Then that's just what everybody did and now it's I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
If you had a sports blog like Barstools doing Babe
of the Day, I mean you can name it.

Speaker 7 (20:50):
Every websites everyone did that.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
We used to have Annetti's Song of the Day at
Foxrocks dot com.

Speaker 11 (20:56):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
That's just could you imagine pre show thong of the day.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
Right, let's let's let's just leave it, leave it where
it was, Tyler, Go ahead, Tyler.

Speaker 11 (21:10):
Hey, guys following up with taking a trip down Limp
and Memory Lane over here, I'm calling the request a
tell all behind the scenes of the whole Caliper area,
maybe on like a podcast or something. You guys did
an uncentered podcast about seven eight years ago. I think
it's time for another one.

Speaker 8 (21:30):
Do that.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
Here's the problem with doing that. I feel like this
is a very introspective episode. I appreciate the going. The
problem with doing that is that people will take a
clip of it and you can't. Like when we did
that uncensored podcast, I think the best piece of content
we ever did.

Speaker 7 (21:47):
It was me and Drew and.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
Bisner and the Turkey Hunter and Tomlin and we ranked
the top fifty players of all time and just told
stories about him. We couldn't do that now because it
was like it lived in its own world. People listened
to it, but they couldn't, like, take a clip on Twitter,
and they couldn't say, hey, can you believe Drew said this?

(22:09):
So it could kind of live in its own world
and it didn't get shared and like, and now I
don't know Ryan, you can do that. I don't know
if you could do that stuff.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
You can't do it this day and age.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
So like I, if I did it, we'd probably charge
for it. But the thing is it would end up
online and then all of a sudden people would just
hate on yes, and so you know it's kind of
I mean, just think about the moment we say something
on this show. Think about that last year of cal
you couldn't say anything without people getting upset. And so

(22:43):
I just don't think you could do those anymore. That's
a shame because they were fun.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
But it's the downside of clips, even if it's some
innocent like I remember I was getting killed when we
did the draft. I picked Uless over Sha. But in
the clip you don't hear our context of it's when
they're at UK and so like sometimes our clips get
out there and it's like, I wish you would hear
the whole conversation with that video.

Speaker 7 (23:02):
But that's your point.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
The content we ever did, by far was that uncensored podcast,
and you can still find it if you know where
to look. It's hard to find, but you can still
worth it. It's it is worth it like eight people
by the month, so people do find it.

Speaker 7 (23:23):
We'll take a break of right bag. It's KSR.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
TJ.

Speaker 7 (23:26):
Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
He'll make them.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
Pay now more of Kentucky Sports Radio present it by
Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
That's one of the Uh uh the guy asked earlier
about doing a podcast with the history. I feel like
all the questions are coming from that. What person writes
U Matt? Did you and Drew or Ryan ever feel
like you were going to get hurt by something you said?
Did everybody anyone ever threaten to hurt you or do that? Uh?

(23:57):
I thought I was gonna get beat up at the
twenty twelve final just talked about that pregame show. Oh no, no, no,
not then. That was twenty fourteen.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
Yeah, that's what I thought you were going to get hurt.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
No.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
I got cornered on Bourbon Street by a bunch of
Louisville fans.

Speaker 12 (24:10):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
I wasn't there late at night once during the Final
four in twenty twelve, and I thought they were drunk.
I thought they're gonna hit me and they didn't. Six
months ago, six months ago, that one's a little fresh.

(24:31):
Parent's been huge on keeping me from some of that
Saint Louis trip. That's Saint Louis trip. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:37):
Yeah, when we were taping Hay Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yesterday, our friend Robert asked me about that.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
We were sure. Yeah, we were taping Hay Kentucky and
a guy wouldn't get out of the shot and I
wasn't good at fighting, but Parent almost did.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Reminded me that he said, you want to dance, I'll
be your partner, and then Parens slowly took off his
cardigan sweater and folded it on the table.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Kentucky Derby, you were with me on that one when
a guy wouldn't stop and I and Parent almost it.
It's bates. I don't know if it's me or parent
that does it because often the times parents in Have
you ever been.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Close the ones you mentioned but nothing serious? Yeah. I
like more of the messages because I'm weird. I kind
of like the hate. In my old apartment, I had
printed out mean tweets like in my hallway on like
canvases of people telling us what they would do, but
never in person.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
During the during all the Katina Pale stuff there my
Mom would get nervous because there were people who knew
where I lived. Yeah, and they would uh, you know,
I came I came home once when I was saying
about running for senate. I came home once and I
had like a threat in my Mailboy, I remember that, Yeah,

(25:44):
that was that was I always thought the combination of
a hardcore Republican and a Louisville fan, that was the one, Shannon,
if they ever did it, that would be the that
would be the grip to look at.

Speaker 7 (25:54):
Did you ever have that happen in your career?

Speaker 2 (25:56):
No, but you've scared me to death a couple of
times being around you. That pregame show in twenty four
Team definitely is the one that I was really concerned.
I went from behind the table went out to the
front of the table, trying to make sure to keep
people away from you.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
That might be the show I'm most proud of in
irel in my life. Tim che had replayed it one time,
accidentally scheduled our pregame show in the Louisville pregame bar
and put it over the loud speakers. Yep, and Shannon
and I just channeled my Shannon the dude heel energy
and just went at him for an hour straight that.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
I remember hearing it, and it was top five stuff.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
And it was my favorite thing. I just was like,
I was like ravishing Rick Rude. Look at all you fat,
out of shape Louisville fans.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
Yeah, you're pointing at him.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
I was no, no, I can't believe. And then we won,
Thank goodness.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I should add I was a little worried if we
had to go back to Freedom All this year. I
guess that would be my next thing.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
You punched in Freedom Hall last year. How are you
not gonna mention.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
That got about it?

Speaker 5 (26:54):
You're the only person's ever gotten hit.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, I almost said the guy's name.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
Got punched at it TVT game.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah, by a guy we're in the loafers.

Speaker 7 (27:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
Now you're being scared about being threatened to be fired.
I've been threatened to be fired a lot.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
The cow.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
When the week between when we lost to Oakland and
when Cal resigned, I was ninety percent sure I was
gonna be fired.

Speaker 6 (27:23):
You were down, too, You were really down that week.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
There was a phone conversation with one of my bosses
where they basically said it's gonna be the UK contract
or you, And I said, well, what are you all
going to decide? And he said, I hope we don't
have to decide, which I think was code for you you.

Speaker 7 (27:46):
Doing process of elimination there. Yeah, and then Cal left.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
If Cal doesn't leave, this show is probably gone, I mean,
or at least it'd be in a different place. If
I mean, we'd still do it, but it wouldn't be
on iHeart because Cal had you know, he had said
him or me, and.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Then we would have lost the duke in the Champions Classic,
which is.

Speaker 7 (28:07):
Crazy to me.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Then it came to that point, but it did.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
There's one more. We were on thin Eyes in Hopkinsville. Yes,
that drive to Hopkinsville.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Oh dude, Oh.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
I was in the car in the passenger seat. You're
having these conversations.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
I'm just criingey like the Yeah, that was where they
announced taking Tucky and I didn't tell my boss. Huh.
They were not happy with you, and they basically were like,
you're fired, and I said, well, okay, whoops. And then
we got through it. But you you, Ryan was already
like looking for I was done.

Speaker 6 (28:44):
We checked into the hotel.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
He's already got our room.

Speaker 7 (28:48):
Was already on LinkedIn going Okay, I got this headshot.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
I took him. I mean a yellow tie looks awesome.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
We got the hotel checked in and fifty minutes there
do you call me like.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
We gotta go?

Speaker 5 (28:59):
They brought us home. Yeah, you're supposed to do a
show in Hopkinsville and they brought us home. So Bruce,
go ahead, Bruce.

Speaker 13 (29:08):
To real quick ask anything Wednesdays. The first question is
do you think there's provisions in place now for the
kids cam for the lower arena of Reperena?

Speaker 8 (29:20):
So certain if you bring.

Speaker 7 (29:22):
Your mistress to reparena during the UK game, you deserve what.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
You get gets can I mean at this point, like
Lexi does a small town, you bring your mistress, you're
gonna get caught.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
I got no.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
You know when you're in Boston or New York, maybe
you think you won't be caught if you do it
in Lexington, then like you're gonna get caught.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
So it's you and people do it. I see it
all right.

Speaker 10 (29:42):
I see its.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Mistresses at Reperena and I know they're there, and it's like,
are you the snack warts cam may come for you, sir,
but go ahead.

Speaker 13 (29:54):
And the second one is more of like a Matt
Jones explains the law the phrase, and I'm sure you
guys have heard possession is nine tenths of the law.
When did the law it become fractions?

Speaker 7 (30:09):
Yeah, it's not. That's also not a real phrase. Like
that's a phrase people.

Speaker 12 (30:14):
So that is a miss and it's all that's people
just say that, But that's not the law, the law
that I went to law school, I read all those books.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
No, possession is non tens of the law is not
a legal phrase. Like that's not real. I mean, I
know you don't say it, but it's not the law.

Speaker 13 (30:34):
So you couldn't get on the witness stand and be
like you're on a ladies gim of the jury? Are
this our client here only had one tenth of a percent?

Speaker 5 (30:43):
It's not a thing. No, it's not a thing. I
appreciate the call. It's not a thing. Blake, go ahead, Blake.

Speaker 14 (30:50):
Hey guys, I've got two questions for you for Ask
Anything Wednesday, uh and their kind of alternate universes. Matt,
if you were like a hardcore Trumper and your fan
base was more uh like liberal Democrat, do you think
the show would do as well? Like if it just
switched positions question.

Speaker 7 (31:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
It depends on I'd have to handle it. There would
have been times, There would have been times swear it
might have been harder because I think there have been
times where Democrats were less open on those things and
then there but it would all be how you handled it.

Speaker 14 (31:27):
I think Kentucky's unique. I think it'd be fine in
Kentucky regardless because of the sports, but like I think
some shows might.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
So there would be some places you could Could you
do it in Could you do it in California? Maybe not? No?

Speaker 11 (31:39):
Right?

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Right?

Speaker 14 (31:40):
And then my other question is alternate universe would be
if cal had taken the UCLA contract, who would have arked?
Who would the coach have been for UK?

Speaker 5 (31:49):
And where would we Shoa Smart? That was who it
was gonna be appreciate at that time. It would have
been shocka Smart. I've just said there there were many
years there where Mitch always had the this is going
to be my first call, and then in the last
couple of years that name became harder to get. You know,

(32:14):
I don't know what you think about this, but I
think the swimming team issue made it to where those
candidates got dropped in this one.

Speaker 7 (32:25):
Do you agree with that.

Speaker 6 (32:26):
I hadn't thought about that, but I'm sure that lady.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
That's been said to me explicitly explicitly. I want you
to remember the timeline. Mark Pope gets announced on a
Thursday night. That swimming team story broke on Friday. They
knew it was coming.

Speaker 7 (32:45):
And now, let's say we had hired somebody that was
a little bit controversial on Thursday night.

Speaker 6 (32:51):
That's why those guys kind of got eliminated.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
I've always believed this has never been said to me explicitly,
and I'm not I can't swear to this, but I've
always believed that part of the reason that group of
four guys got dropped was because.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
Of that makes total sense.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Do you think that could be true? Yeah, and I
thought that in real time. I'm like you, I didn't
know anything, but I remember that brewing. And then next thing,
you know, when Reparena and mitches in front of a microphone,
and that was still kind of in the background, even
though I had to hire.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
Someone controversial, and then the swimming team story comes out.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
Yeah, I think it makes it different.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
So I think you hire like the cleanest guy you
can hire, and then the good will starts that. I again,
that's not like official, but that's always kind of been
my my thought. Amy, go ahead, Amy, Arnie.

Speaker 13 (33:44):
My ask me thing is for Ryan and Drew. I
was wondering if you tell us about the awkward encounter
or moment you had a.

Speaker 8 (33:51):
Week or so ago at the Swing for Soldiers event.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
That has been asked a lot on the text machine.
So yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
So Drew and I are at the University Club doing
our show and we get there, they tell us we
could have some people on.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
Jacob Tammy.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, we want him, one of the soldiers that benefited
from the Homes for the Heroes. We want him, he said,
you can also have the leader, the guy that's in
charge of the national president of the Homes for the Heroes.
We're like, eh, well, that guy obviously told that guy
he was going to be on. So he came over
to Drew, gave you a business card, and then set

(34:25):
this close to us and just watched us, just just
staring at waiting for his chance to come on the radio.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
And you tell us during the break like whenever you're ready.
And he wasn't like associating with anyone else at the
event for the entire second hour.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
So did you have him on?

Speaker 8 (34:36):
No?

Speaker 4 (34:37):
And guess who they blamed?

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Who?

Speaker 6 (34:39):
Producer?

Speaker 4 (34:40):
They said, the producer said, we ran out of time there,
and he blamed me.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
I didn't blame anyone. I got it walked away.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
You wouldn't do anything like that to me. I know
you wouldn't, but that Ryan did.

Speaker 8 (34:53):
No.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
I would just say and I appreciate the call. And
this is not a fence to anyone, but I am not.
When we do remotes, I get asked it, twenty percent
of the remotes, will you have on this guy whose
business you're at? And my answer is always no, I'm sorry, No,
it's not good radio. I'm not gonna have on the

(35:16):
guy that runs the construction company, I'm not gonna have
If you have a charity, I'm not gonna have you on.
I mean, I don't say that to be rude, but
if I have you on, then I have to have
everyone on. It's like when people send me and it
breaks my heart. People send me go fund me links
and they say this is someone can you please help them?
And I want to help everybody, but I can't because
if I send all of them, then none of them

(35:37):
will have any meaning you know, yes, So I have
to tell everyone no and I hate it, but like
it's not personal. I'm not gonna every week bring on
this person where we are so and I've turned down
you know, I've turned down the mayor. Yeah, I have
to turn down my friends. I mean, I love Craig.

(36:00):
Craig said a couple of times, you want me to
come out, I'm like no, and then you know he's
my friend, and I just I just I just don't,
you know. I gotta worry about making it entertaining. You
can't just like try to sell all if you try,
if all you try to do is sell, and I'm
about to sell right now. But if all you do
is sell, like the show stops being good.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
And I think at locations people their brain is just
in that one spot and they're forgetting. There's so many
people listening that have no attachment to where we are
or whatever.

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We'll take a break, be right back, KYSR, welcome back,
Take you Sports Radio nine twenty two eighty seven. My

(37:10):
text of the day comes from this eight five nine
three nine six number where he says, Matt, the possession
is nine tenths of the law comes from the famous
Supreme Court Court case of Finders versus Keepers.

Speaker 7 (37:22):
That's a great case nine no decision.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Uh. Another person writes Ryde Trean's it's a short memory.
Didn't he get punched at South Carolina? Didn't he almost
get hit by a car at Roosters?

Speaker 7 (37:34):
Yes? The derby.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
Firstly, you got punched at South Carolina into jaw. You
nearly got a gun pulled on you in the Roosters
parking lot, like you, you're having a selective memory.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
I thought were talking about stuff we were as part of
the media, like a part of our Roosters was part
of the meet. That was definitely and we were after
a show going to eat lunch, and the derby was
part of the media.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
Derby was definitely part of the media.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
Yeah. So yeah. One person writes, Matt, what is your
happiest moment on the air and the one you have
the most regret on was there happiest when my mom
called after I decided not to run for senate.

Speaker 6 (38:14):
Yeah, that was pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
I wish I still had that clip. I went looking
for it and I couldn't find it.

Speaker 6 (38:19):
We were all in tears after that.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
That was the nicest thing. Yeah, remember that.

Speaker 6 (38:24):
Oh yeah, it was fantastic.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
That was great.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
I feel the love in her voice.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
I can't think of a moment on the air, but
I regret like a ton of stuff, just like I
regret when I get mad at somebody or when I'm
like short with somebody on the air. You know, I
regret the cow relationship, like how it ended. I regret
that we went like twelve or thirteen years not having

(38:51):
a relationship with TJ. Thankfully, that's good again, Yeah, but
that's stunk. So like I mean, yeah, but you can't
sit in wallow in it. But there's a book if
I were to give you my book of the year,
there's a book that I bought a few weeks ago
that I read in a night. It's called I Regret

(39:11):
Almost Everything. It's this book by this guy who ran
restaurants in New York, who I didn't even know he was,
but somebody recommended me the book. It's two hundred and
fifty pages. Best book I've read in not best memoir
I think may have read ever. Really, and I don't
even know this guy. He's just a guy who made
restaurants in New York. His names like Keith McNally, and

(39:34):
he like expresses all the things that he thinks he
screwed up over the years. And I could completely relate
to it. Now he's a little more depressed, like I'm
not depressed, but like, highly recommend it. Yeah, but anyway,
but of course you regret things. How could you not
if you have a soul. This is live radio too,
I mean say stuff you wish you didn't. So yeah,

(39:56):
GG go ahead, GG time.

Speaker 7 (40:02):
Who are what's up?

Speaker 8 (40:05):
I've got a two part question based on fan attendance.
What is the largest annual Kentucky sporting events event that
you have never attended.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
Sporting event? Well, okay, so Derby is obviously one. What
would be the largest? What are large events in Kentucky?

Speaker 6 (40:29):
I know they don't have any more, but the NASCAR
race I never went to it. Yeah, I went to Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
Can you think of what you got one in your mind? Gg,
like one that stink has a lot of people there.
What is I do?

Speaker 8 (40:41):
I do so imagine Court Days or Hillbilly Days converging
on a dirt track in Boone County. So the forty
third annual North South one hundred is coming up here
in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 7 (40:54):
I don't know what that event. It's like a dirt
track race.

Speaker 8 (40:57):
So it's yeah, it is. The Lucas Oil National Circuit
will be attending and it's this one particular races like
outside of Eldora. It's one of the largest events in
the country. The problem, how many people benimate. I'm going
to estimate over the three day event, maybe one hundred

(41:18):
and fifty thousand people, maybe.

Speaker 7 (41:20):
One hundred and fifty thousand people in Boone.

Speaker 8 (41:22):
County, Yes, for this three day event, over the course
of the three days.

Speaker 7 (41:28):
And what's it called again?

Speaker 5 (41:29):
The North South event?

Speaker 8 (41:33):
The North South one hundred?

Speaker 7 (41:35):
Okay, do you know about this?

Speaker 8 (41:37):
Heard it with a so we gave the local Kentucky kid,
Josh Rice is okay, I.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
Don't have time to previ I just have like a
minute laugh, But but I appreciate the called North South
one hundred.

Speaker 6 (41:51):
Never heard of it? Not one time I've ever heard
of that.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
You ever heard of that?

Speaker 7 (41:54):
Shadow of it?

Speaker 5 (41:56):
Me either? All right?

Speaker 7 (41:57):
Quickly, John thirty seconds, Hey.

Speaker 10 (42:01):
Man, Hey, Matt, first time forever?

Speaker 9 (42:04):
Who are tell me?

Speaker 13 (42:06):
Just did anybody check the free throw shooting stats for
Archie when he was in Kentucky versus Willie at Kentucky?

Speaker 11 (42:14):
I'm just curious.

Speaker 13 (42:15):
Did we have the wrong guys shooting Willy?

Speaker 5 (42:18):
Who do you? I bet Archie's a little better, But
I appreciate the call. But Archie did struggle with free
throws here sometimes.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Yeah, I mean I would be surprised if Willie shot
better than Archie still wanted Willy taking it last night.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
Well, it wasn't a good look when he fell.

Speaker 7 (42:34):
He was assistant. If we had won, that would be
a legendary fall.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Archie did shoot sixty three percent of UK. Maybe I
don't remember it being that bad.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
Wow, sixty three percent.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
If it worked, you had to keep doing it too,
next game.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
Yeah, well you just keep falling every time Willie get
found he got hurt.

Speaker 7 (42:53):
Thank you all very much. We will see you tomorrow.
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