2025-08-13- KSR - Hour 1

Matt, Drew, and Shannon talk JMI's partnership with Kentucky and all the latest news.

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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Now here's Matt Jones.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Welcome everyone.

Speaker 5 (00:37):
It is Kentucky Sports Radio, Wednesday, August the thirteenth.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
I am Matt Jones. Here.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
We are thirteen days away from opening Ksbar. We are
sixteen days is at sixteen nineteen days No seventeen days
from kickoff to College Kentucky's college football season. Matt Jones,
Drew Franklin, Shannon the Dude. We were sitting in here
by the way. We're sponsored by Clark's Puppet Shop. If

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Speaker 4 (01:10):
This edition sponsored by the TJ. Smith Office.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
You call TJ, I'll make them pay the just to
give you a little behind the scenes. Everyone here is
trying to make uh it look this studio look presentable
for the NFL podcast, and it's it's I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
First of all, I don't know who lit this room.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
This loom room was lit by somebody who's never been
on a television screen at any point.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
They have the lights shin and right above our head.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
They look to be white lights too, like.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
That and they are like literally they they they make
everyone's face look think about the worst version of yourself
in the mirror. This seems to be designed to look
like that. You know when TV they teach you keep
the light in front of you, facing you a little bit,
like to make you flush. This is over our head

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behind us. We look like we're dead. And this was designed.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
This isn't even that old. This was designed like this
is the new studio. I do like that.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
iHeart is putting more into us looking good than me
and you put into ourselves actually looking good.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
What are you talking about moisturizer?

Speaker 6 (02:20):
I too, I got a little line, but I mean
they're really working hard, and.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
They're trying to fix what was the worst lip. I mean,
I'm not gonna say which one, but everybody knows there's
a TV station in town that is one notch below
the others.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
They're trying.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
They try like Ricky Steamboat. They try really hard. They
do the best they can all. One thing that would
help them is if they would like the thing correctly,
same thing here. This is terrible, but they're trying to
fix it. Mario's Mario and Nathan and Billy. They've got
things hanging everywhere. But we really just need to tear
this place down and start over.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Don't you think this brand new building in downtown, like
I mean, there's Shannon. There's five TVs in here.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Only one is even hooked up to it the enter
like to cable or like. Four of these TVs have
never been turned off.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
See a black screen behind you right now, right behind
the herd.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
This thing can't get any channel, so it just reflects light.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
It's just terrible. I've only seen this Roku screensaver fish tank.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
The only thing that's ever on this table is Pat
McAfee or that or that fish.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
I know these fish, I know their names. I know
when they bounce off.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
The corners signed this thing failed architecture school. Hopefully it
gets fixed in the next two weeks. Uh, we got
We have a lot to talk about. Let's start first
before I get to the big news. Alan Cutler said
you could kiss his ass, Shannon, and I think you,
I think you have to respond to that because you're
being called out to a fight by seventy one year

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old man.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Nor do I care.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
I'm currently suffering from a failure to give a damn
about anything that Alan Cutler says.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Now he said, he's.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Said that you could kiss his his a.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
He's getting really feisty. I mean, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Again, I don't care what Adam Allen, Adam Allen Adamler says.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I don't care.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
I tried to listen to his thing. I listened to
a couple of minutes at all I heard he was
saying that you were the worst and Drew was the best.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
And then someone someone texted me and says, Shannon, you
can kiss my ass. Drew I like you tremendously in
one breath. That's what he says.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I'm glad that he's got two listeners.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
And I had heard the first couple of minutes.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
But anyway, I thought that was funny and I wanted
you to to be more, to be upset.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
I can tell I can see your face. You are upset.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I'm not upset.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
You might see it at an event, sou maybe a game.
Maybe you too, a five opening a KOs bar, he'll
talk too much. Well, we couldnt do that.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
I feel like when Captain Sountan threatened me at that game,
thought I was gonna have to get between you two.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
He walked up to me at the Ducky Loan a football.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Game and he was like, so do you want a piece?
And I was like a pie? I don't know, but
you know, then I walked away.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
And it's so significant to say something bad about me
that I might care.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
That's what I'll tell Kirk Herbstream to give you a message.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
All right, So let's start with what I mean, I
think is the most important piece of news. It broke
during the show yesterday, and it's that UK and JMI
have signed a fifteen year deal for four hundred and
sixty five million dollars. Just start right there. That's a
lot of money. And that's thirty point three million dollars

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or no, thirty thirty one million dollars a year. So
that's a lot of money, you know. I I, as
one person explained to me, this takes care of our
rev share. And so as you're sitting here in your
balancing the pros and the cons, start with the pro

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The revshare is now paid for. By the way, what
I would say is when I start hearing UK raise
other prices because of the rev share, I.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Want you to remember that. One of the things that
was explained to.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Me yesterday is the revshare is now paid for. So
as costs of other things go up, remember the rev
share is paid for by this just something to think about,
that's good. But I do think this is going to
be an extremely important change for the future of UK sports.

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And I sort of spent the last twenty four hours
kind of in my mind weighing the pros and the cons,
and I tend to come out of it pessimistic. Not like,
not that I think the apocalypse is coming, not that
I think it's the worst thing ever, but I'm pessimistic.
And I will explain to you why I'm pessimistic. Now,

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you can be pessimistic and it still things can be good.
I was pessimistic stick about Mitch Barnhart leading us into
the Annio era, and while it was a slow start,
I think he finished pretty well. But I'm pessimistic about
this for a number of reasons. But let me first
explain to you what has happened. So JMI is now
in charge of two important things. One is they are

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now in charge of doing the quote unquote contracts for
the athletes.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Now, what does that mean?

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Of the twenty point six million dollars, every coach will
be given a certain amount of money that they are
able to divvy up.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Let's say, so let's say that.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
Mark Stoops is told you will have fifteen million dollars
Mark Stoops and the people on his staff, and that
will include I think it includes like a football. GM
decide how they're going to spend that fifteen million dollars.
You know, it's up to them and they can decide
who's worth what. But let's say they decide Drew Franklin

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is worth one million dollars. Drew Fanklin may be demanding
two million dollars. That's where JMI will come in and
have to negotiate that other million. As a practical phase,
I would just say to people, this will come up
with every good player. I actually think this JMI think

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is going to be bigger for basketball than football because
it will be the basketball players that will demand more
money than what the REV share gives.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Does that make sense.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
I think most football players what they get in the
REV share will be their primary source of money for basketball.
So I kind of see JMI as now being like
eighty percent of.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
A basketball GM. By the way, that's what Club Blue was.
Club Blue did most.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Of their work in basketball. They did a little football,
but it was mostly basketball. So I think what JMI
is going to be doing is mostly basketball, which is
why I'm a little nervous.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
So that's part one of their jobs.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
The second part of their job is when they get
these guys, let's say they need a million dollars, they're
gonna have to co come up with.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Now.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
I was very worried yesterday that JMI was essentially locking
these players in that if you signed with UK you
couldn't do your own outside deals. I'm told that's not
the case, so that makes me feel better. That was
a big concern. That was my big concern. One of
my big concerns. That makes me feel better. There will
still be some athletes who will have the ability to

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do their own thing. That's good, but it's still gonna
ultimately be jmi's responsibilities to negotiate the deals and to
go and find the money.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Here's why that concerns me.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
And this is hard for me to talk about because
JMI works with our station. I come on after the
postgame show. But if you go through history here, JMI
in UK have a relationship that is very unique. JMI
only does the media rights for three major schools, Kentucky,

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Notre Dame in UCLA. They have a lot of small schools,
but they're the only ones they do the major schools for.
They work with a couple of other schools that name
in their stadiums and stuff, but when it comes to
being the primary media sponsor for a college, it's just
UK Notre.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Dame in UCLA.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
Guess how many schools JMI is taking on the role
of being the Nile Group four.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
None. We're the only one. We're the only one. We
are the only.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
School in the country that will have a relationship like
this with JMI. Is that gonna work? We'll see how
many schools are doing this period well? Lear Field, that's
who does the broadcasting for Louisville. They have a lot
of schools. They've got like fifty How many schools are
they doing it for? Three Georgia, Ohio State and Texas.

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Those are pretty good schools. Learfield is taking on this role.
JMI is with those schools. But what worries me is A.
Lear Field's good and B those schools are still keeping
their private collectives. We are the only school that I
can find who is getting rid of their private collective

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and giving it all to one company. And we're giving
it to one company who doesn't have any other schools.
So the caller who worried, well, what if it's UK
or UCLA, how do they decide?

Speaker 4 (11:39):
UCLA is still doing their own thing. They're not letting
jm I do it. So that's a lot of faith
in one company, wouldn't you agree? Oh yeah, let's say
it was the best company in the world. That's a
lot of faith.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
I have had a complaint for a long time. If
you've listened to the show, you know it's not unique.
I've had a complaint that I don't think jm I
is up to date on everything. All you gotta do
is listen to the postgame show. You know privately they
ban Drew from coming on the field. They didn't credential,

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like they were a big part of Mario not getting credential.
These are little things about KSR. But how do you
look at today's modern world and go the social media
creator for the biggest website shouldn't have a media credential.
You do it by being behind the times, right, I
worry is this company that still sends us cease and

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desist letters for putting on KSR, UK plays old miss
and using the UK logo? Is this the company that's
gonna understand modern in ale.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Deals I worry about.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
We travel to all kinds of schools across the country.
Let me be very clear about this, and I said
this to someone at UK yesterday, so I'm not talking
out of school.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
UK, of all the schools I've visited in the major.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Conferences, is more behind on modern media dealing with modern
media than any other school that we deal with. When
it comes to media relations, UK gives less access to
us than even the schools that were the road team

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for I can go to Tennessee and I can go
to Louisville and they'll give me more access than when
I'm in Reperena.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Now, why should you care about that?

Speaker 5 (13:43):
You probably shouldn't, except the people that were making those
decisions are now making all the decisions. As I said
on social media, UK Athletics is now JMI and JMI
is now UK Athletics. Will it work?

Speaker 4 (14:02):
I hope.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
So I wrote the CEO or the CEO of JMI
and I said, hey, would you like to talk this week?
She said yes, So I will do that and I
will recommend what I think and she can feel free
to ignore.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
It or whatever.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
But I am concerned because the thing that has always
been the best to me about UK sports is obviously
the games. But we've been pretty good at the business
side of things, wouldn't you agree, And in this Nile
era by having the people that they were doing the

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contracts before, I think we had pretty smart people doing it.
The weakness has always been to me, the modernization to
the new world of media. Well, now the people that
were in charge of that are in charge of everything,
and that worries me.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Is it fixable?

Speaker 7 (15:00):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Are there smart people there, Sure are there nice people there? Sure?

Speaker 5 (15:07):
But we are giving what I think is the hardest
thing for a basketball and football program to do recruit players.
That's the hardest thing to do. We are now essentially
turning a huge part of that over to a private company, and.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
It worries me.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
It would worry me if I was a lear Field school,
and it probably worries them too because they're still keeping
their private collectives.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
But we now have no fallback plan.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
If JMI is not good, we're not gonna get players.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
If they are, maybe it still will work.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
I can tell you I had multiple people write me
from other schools and go, you should be a little
worried about this. I'm talking coaches from like other SEC schools.
I think gets nerve wracking. Now they're gonna get a
ton of money. I'm gonna guess uk is gonna get
more money from their local media deal than probably any

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school in the country.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
That's good.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
Some of the worries we've had about are we gonna
have the revenue to compete? That's probably taken care of,
so that's good. But are we gonna be able to
be in a world where the rules drew can change overnight?
We are locked into a fifteen year deal with JMI,

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and the one thing I've always worried about them.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Is are they modern?

Speaker 5 (16:40):
That's where I am on it. That's my concern. That's
my I don't wanna say frustration, but that's my worry is.
And I'll finish with this. I use this example. This
is just in the realm of media. But listen to
the example I'm using and then move.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
It to recruiting.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
The Kentucky Derby this year invited fifty TikTok influencers to
come and have all access to the Derby.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Why did they do it? Because it's the future, new
and younger audience.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Drew and I are being invited to go to the
super Bowl, the NFL Playoffs, the combine, all the draft,
all of that with access from the NFL.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Right schools like an Old Miss, etc.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
Their media is allowed to go to practice. What happens
at Kentucky right now, we couldn't get Mario a credential.
Drew has to stand outside instead of being on rupp Arena.
No media gets to see anything. I look at how

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these other schools are adapting to the modernization of the world,
and I think UK is far behind. Now that's gonna
be everything. It's not just gonna be media. It's gonna
be recruiting. It's gonna be fan interaction, it's gonna be tickets.
I don't know how you can't be a little bit
nervous about that. Eight five, nine, twenty two eighty seven.

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Will take a break, be right back. It's kiss are.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Is that what you say? To Alan?

Speaker 2 (18:26):
That's right?

Speaker 7 (18:28):
All right?

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Fact to kiss? Says is it filter or no filter involved?
A filter?

Speaker 5 (18:32):
At least, I think I'll let you have a filter.
We don't need, we don't need any diseases being passed,
passed back and forth. One person rides Matt, Okay, A
lot of that sounds bad. Most positive thing the money.
It's a lot of money, huge, a lot of money.
Probably takes away one of the if not the biggest
concern going into the annil are, which is do you

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have the money to compete? UK now has the money
to compete. At least they have the rev share portion.
Whether they have the donor will wait and see. But
they have the revshare portion, so that's a positive. Another
person says, Matt, it sounds like your relationship with UK
is broken. They're done with KSR. I don't think that's
necessarily true. My relations our relationship with UK has been good.

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Our relationship with JMI has been bad. UK has been
pretty good to us over the years, but they on
the media side they had to do what JMI said,
and that has generally been bad. I'm hoping it's better.
I'm glad they're gonna meet with me. But it's not
about us. I'm just using us as an example to
show you problems that I think are going to happen

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with things that have nothing to do with us. So
let me just give you one theoretical problem. And I
promise I'm gonna let Drew talk, because Drew has set
there silent. No, I'm recruiting Mario Okay, for basketball, let's
say that. And it's down to Kentucky and Yukon. Yukon
has come in and said, we are going to give

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you three and a half million dollars of our refshare
money because we can do that because we ain't spending
any money on football. And Kentucky comes in and they
just can't give three and a half, but they can
give two and say we'll get you the other one
and a half through inile deals.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Okay, JMI goes out.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
JMI is only allowed to negotiate deals with UK official partners?

Speaker 4 (20:27):
How much can you ask.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
Of Drake's and Paul miller Ford At some point though,
they're not going to be able to keep doing it.
And if we don't have a private nil group a
collective to do it, what's gonna happen. We're probably gonna
lose Mario right because we're making it to the where

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only one entity can officially do it and they can
only work with the partners they have.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
So where we getting this money?

Speaker 5 (21:03):
Which means we're gonna while everybody else has their private
collectives that are coming together, We're still trying to go
through a corporate structure that by its very nature limits
the amount of people that it can talk to. How
much money can you ask from Morgan and Morgan? And
then let's say the school needs money for a soccer stadium,

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but we want to get Mario the player. It's the
same entity drawing money for both of them. That's a
problem in my opinion. And if it was such a
great idea, why is no other school doing it? And
why are the schools that are doing it with lear
Field giving themselves an out by keeping their private collectives?

Speaker 4 (21:55):
I think that's a fair worried.

Speaker 6 (21:56):
Drip, absolutely, and it comes at a time where everyone
no one saw, certainly on the basketball side, where the
previous model they just build put together one of the
best rosters in the country. There was never more confidence
in UK'SNIL operations than this spring when Pope was out
there navigating the portal bringing players back. So right, when
you think, all right, maybe we've got this thing figured

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out and Kentucky's gonna be rolling, you hand it over
to JMI and it's back to well. I mean, we
hope they can pull it off, and if they do,
it will work out having it in house. But I
mean people, as you've said, fans not a high approval
rating for them on media as it is, and now
you're giving them control of everything.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
I won't bore you with the legalities. But the other
thing about this deal is it assumes Congress is going
to pass legislation. If Congress passes legislation, this can work.
If they don't, it won't. Who has faith in Congress, Shannon,
is that you with your hand up?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
No, I don't have my hand up.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
Well, I think this deal if Congress doesn't pass something
just doesn't work. All right, I won't do this. The
whole show will take calls right for this KSI TJ.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
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Speaker 3 (23:08):
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Speaker 2 (23:11):
Here's Matt Jones.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
That's what you do have to have. You're exactly right
about them.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, takes a lot of though might work.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
One person writes, Matt, pat is what your complaints are?
Why Jaymi doesn't want to deal with you? Maybe if
you would be more positive, things would be better. I'm
sure it would. But like, if you just want the
official word, just read the press release, you know, I
mean when the when? When when the White House issues

(23:38):
a statement? Do you think that's the whole truth, no
matter who the president is. Do you read the White
House official statement and go, well, that's the proof. That's
all I needed?

Speaker 4 (23:49):
All right? Next next talk what they want you to hear?

Speaker 5 (23:52):
Andy, tell me what you think? Well, I'm good like
you gotta have critical thinking skills and this show was
just me telling you my opinion. You can feel free
to disagree. But if you want the official word, I believe,
uh there are shows that do that, and the and
and they'll come on. Then you can you can make

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that decision, but the the goal is to get some
understanding eight five nine two eight h twenty two eighty seven.
Last thing, are you? Are you like? Overall?

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Do you? Are you more positive about it than I am?
Did Jami situation? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (24:34):
No, I'm more positive than I was yesterday when I
learned that they can still get some outside That's that
was my probably biggest concern because right now, more than ever,
you're looking at Stokes from Kentucky, who's one of those
dudes that you really want to go out and get,
And if they were to miss out on him because
JMI is still figuring out what they're doing, I think
that'd be an issue. But the fact that they can

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still step out gives me a little more optimism than yesterday.
But overall, I still don't have a ton of faith.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Stokes will be their first test. I'm glad.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
That's a good way to put it. Stokes will be
their first test, and it's not just on them. I mean,
Mark Pope might not be able to get Stokes, or
Stokes might just want to go somewhere else. Like I'm
not saying one player says the whole thing, but the
first test of can you create a deal that makes
it to where Stokes wants you to, makes it to
wear a player.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
What Stokes will be the first test of that.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
I don't think it definitively answers the question either way,
but I think it's a good I think that's a
really good point.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
I think it's a good initial Yeah.

Speaker 6 (25:29):
You choose the other schools, but if in order to
pick us, and it's still a problem, but I think
it's a good first test. The worst case scenario is
he goes somewhere else and we get quotes like they
just couldn't meet my number or something like that.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
That would be bad. Then that's where our concerns.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
It's not an excuse anymore on the revshare piece because
we've got it. The excuse now is can you make
it work? And you know what, if they would just
hire all the Club Blue people and bring them to Jami,
then I'd be like, we're good. But those people don't
want to do that, and so they're not going to
So we'll see. All right, we got people on the phone.

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I want to talk about some interesting things as well,
But let's go to a couple of these people on
the phone.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Justin go ahead, justin.

Speaker 8 (26:15):
Yes media Day, Stoops said that he doesn't believe that
Kentucky football is going to be behind from the rest
of the team's of football teams in the revenue sharing.

Speaker 7 (26:26):
Is the JMI deal?

Speaker 8 (26:28):
Is that part of why he seems so confident that
we're not going to be behind in football.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
I can't speak for him, but here's why I think
he would say to that question.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
I appreciate the call.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
I think he believes that when it's all said and done,
he will get enough money from the rev share to
put a really like he'll be able to have as
much as everybody else in the official money. And I
think they believe, like, let's just use some numbers. There
were estimations that last year schools in the SEC spent

(26:59):
about twenty million on football. I've heard UK football last
year spent about five million dollars. I bet that numbers higher,
but if you ask the UK people, they say five.
I think that's low, but regardless, there was a huge gap.
I think now they would say, Okay, Georgia might spend

(27:20):
twenty three, but we'll have seventy and we got a
shot then, so I think that I still think there's
gonna be a gap, but the GAP's not gonna be
as wide. It's gonna it's it's gonna be like it's
the difference between in baseball, the Dodgers spend the most,
but you know what, like the Cubs still spend a lot,

(27:43):
but now the Pirates don't spend anything, right, And I
think they thought we were kind of the Pirates and
now maybe we're the Cubs.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Is that fair? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (27:52):
I don't think like Stoops was towing the company line
and being a yeah yeah, no, height because he doesn't
have a very good poker face got to cover for years.
And he seemed very genuine in that, No, we're in
a white spot.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
I like what we have.

Speaker 6 (28:05):
It wasn't like Barnhardt whispered to him on his way
to do the interview.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
You know we're telling.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
Is that we can't fake it, right, we can't fake it,
and he doesn't fake it, And so I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
I think he genuinely thinks that, or he wouldn't have
said that.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
John, go ahead, John, Hey, I I have a question.

Speaker 9 (28:25):
But before I ask you, I think JMI is always
a fun killer. I mean I remember times when Steven
Johnson was playing and they had the the you guys
did the face mask and they took them away because
it basically wasn't their idea. I just think that anything
that's fun and upcoming and that it's for the fans,
unless it's they're the idea and they want to make
money on it, they're not going to be on board

(28:45):
for it.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
Totally accurate, You hit, They have had the view, and
this is going to have to change.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
But they have had the view.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
If they didn't come up with it and it's not
and they're not getting money for it, it can't be done.
That opinion has to change. I expressed that yesterday to
some folks. I'm gonna express it when I talk to
him later in the week. You you cannot be the
hall monitor. And to use a political example, Donald Trump

(29:18):
drives me crazy, but one of the things he's successful
at is he comes off as being fun. Democrats in
the last election came off as being the hall monitor.
People don't like the hall monitor. JMI has been the
hall monitor. They got to stop being the hall monitor.
I totally agree. Go ahead to your second point.

Speaker 9 (29:39):
The question I have is now that JMI has the
rights and it's UK, does that mean that when players
do nil deals. We can actually make them look like
true nil deals. Nothing is a joke more When you
have I'm gonna double quick commercial and they say, hey,
I got a blue Russell branded T shirt that says
basketball player.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
They can now only do it at least now can
they Only.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
If Okay, I appreciate the call I've given you three times.
Only if it's an official Jay of my partner. So
Trent Noah can do a deal. But unless it's with
an official Jay of my partner, he still can't wear
the jersey. I think that's a mistake, but that's what
it's going to be. So if Jay, if he wants
to do a deal with a restaurant that doesn't pay

(30:24):
money to UK, he'll have to wear the generic T shirt.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
I mean that's just where if you look at if
they have other options at every other school, you're automatically
limiting yourself. I mean, even if you believe Jami can
pull it off, they do have one hand behind their back.
If that's if that's the approach.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
On the school people that are the official partners. I
just you do wonder how much money did that? Like,
how much money can can Paul Miller pay?

Speaker 4 (30:51):
Right? I can only get my loan so many take
out so many times.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
Yeah, and during a lot of our conflicts with am
I I looked into how much it would cost for
us to have something with him.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
I mean it was astound and so like if you
just keep.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
Going to those people and going, all right, pay for this,
I mean, there does come a point where you just go,
how much you know, how much do you want me
to spend? Noah, go ahead, Noah, Hey man, I've got.

Speaker 10 (31:19):
A very random ask anything one today for it? So
with all this top yeah, so all the socc of
movies that you guys have had this throughout this week,
I've been thinking from with that, if you could have
Hollywood make a biopick off of a historical figure from
say like from the past fifty to one hundred years,
and if you could have any sort of figure, and

(31:40):
I want to know who it would be and who
you would cast to have them. I have my answer
I given now or.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
After you guys answer, go for it. What's yours? While
I'm thinking.

Speaker 10 (31:49):
It's a very random one, which I know it would
never happen because he's actually not an actor, but I
was thinking of him before Joe Burrow and Billy Graham.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Look it up some like, Wait, bit you could see
Joe Burrows as the minister Billy Graham.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah, I appreciate it. I might have to look at that. Shon.
Are you saying Joe Burrow looks like Billy?

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm saying I can see him pull that off.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
I can see that.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
I can't even fathom how Joe Burrow looks like Billy Graham.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Picture of Billy Grant, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
I only remember Billy Graham as being old, so it's
hard for.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Me to look. Can you see that? If you can
see that there.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Oh, somebody has already done this. That's why.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
That's why I say it. I can see that because
I have seen it. Okay, the thing that okay in that.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Picture, I mean maybe, yes, that's interesting. I the we
have better options in the casting room there.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
I actually think a bio of Billy Graham would be
I mean, Billy Graham is like one of the people
that I really revere and think like lived from what
I know, exactly as you would want a Christian to live.
People who've had interesting lives. Huey Long had a really
interesting life. The former governor of Louisiana who was ran

(33:18):
for president. He was shot. Uh you know. All the
King's Men was based on him, but it's fictionalized. So
I would like to I'd like to say, I'd love
to see like a really good movie about Bobby Kennedy.
There was a movie. I don't think it was very good.
The Younger was not the kook that's in office right now?

Speaker 4 (33:38):
What about you? You got one?

Speaker 6 (33:40):
Chris Daniel day Lewis. Daniel da Lewis can do anything.

Speaker 7 (33:47):
Though.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
They'll make a movie about Chris Farley one day and
it'll be really like, that's a really good pick.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
Why Why is an escape? He's one of my favorite actors.
American Psycho Chris Christian Bell as Chris Farley.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Well, if you had told me he could play Dick Cheney,
I would have said no way, And then he did it.

Speaker 7 (34:06):
Great.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
How about see him in the New Madden Oh yeah, yeah,
that's a good. How about Baby Billy and Billy Graham?
Can you see that?

Speaker 5 (34:13):
I definitely can see that. I definitely could see Baby
Billy interesting. I'm gonna have to think about though, as
somebody like who's somebody's life that is fat from the
last one hundred years. That is fascinating enough all the
way around that I would want to see. I would
want to see a movie. He was not a good person,

(34:35):
I think. But I think a movie about George Wallace,
the Alabama governor, would be interesting because he was like
one of the leading segregationists and then at the end
of his life he flipped and he thought everything he
had done was wrong. It would be interesting to watch
his progression, you know what I mean. He was the
guy blocking the schoolhouse in Tuscaloosa from people becoming and

(34:58):
then later in his life there were interviews where he
expread like cried about how he had wasted his life
doing these bad things. I think that would be interesting anyway.
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a break. Great back to take you sports radio. Welcome back,
take you sports Radio. A lot of people, I guess
kind of agree on the Billy Graham thing.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
I can. I mean, I guess, I don't know. It
was Joe Burrow, good.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Actor, probably not as a football player.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
Billy Graham was like, I mean, when I was a kid,
like my mom like a door, what's it? My mom
and Larry go to this place called the Cove, I think,
which was like his place. They used to go there
all the time, and uh, it was all but Billy Graham.
Billy Graham. He was on TV a lot too when
I was a kid, but not like in the Jerry
Fallwell way, like it seemed like he was actually doing good.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
Yeah, speaking of your mom, it's I'm now in a
group text with you, your mom.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
That's fun.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
I got me and my mom and Drew just group
texting shit, you know, just to sending each other sending
each other texts A new Taco Bell and ponval. Yeah,
new Taco Bell and pie big news. It is a
big news. So Jason goes, maybe they'd like ks R
better UK if you all would pony up and give
to the program. Have to respect the respect the brand
and who owns the rights to it. Maybe put some

(36:53):
cash in. Yeah, that's what you want, Jason, That's what
you want. Is you want the media who pay to
get access. That's a really good way to have like
a system. Let's make it to where the only people
that get any access at all in the media are
are people who pay. Yeah, well let's put that in

(37:14):
a different context. Yeah, I think you'd probably really like
it if NBC paid Joe Biden for access to the
White House, wouldn't that be good? And the entities that
didn't pay him couldn't get in. Oh wait, maybe that's
happening right now. But like, is that what you would want?

(37:34):
That's not what you want. This is a public university.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
Also in the former model, Ron Lemon was losing so
much money on the uh the King of Card the
card game, Remember of the Club Blue.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
He's so ing of hearts.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
You don't want that you really want because also, if
if I'm in partnership with u K, I'm just gonna
say what they want.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
I think a lot of people are sharing to just
want to be lied to. Oh I'm sure, just lie
to me. Yeah, tell me what better?

Speaker 5 (38:12):
Tell me what makes me feel better, because I don't
like to hear things that don't make me feel good.

Speaker 6 (38:17):
There's a lot of people like that in a lot
of realms. Unfortunately, how much you I have to pay
for them to let me come inside when it's raining
after a game? Impossible does make for a good video.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
Yeah, but we made But you made that work. You
getting kicked out of the games, You made it work.
Numbers went up, Hall Monitor, Alan, go ahead.

Speaker 11 (38:36):
Alan, Hey, guys, this is Allan from Saint Louis not Cutler.
I don't want to have any beef for Shannon. I'm
a fan of this, so let's just start off with that.
I was just wondering that the UK Athletics Department forming
the LLC a few weeks back. Do you think that's
factored into that decision?

Speaker 5 (38:54):
Yeah, of course, I mean this was this was announced
at the first meeting of that LLC.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
Right, So clearly, yeah, clearly it had something to do
with it.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
I'm not like a high level corporate lawyer, so I'm
not sure what the tax implication, but for certain that
had something to do with it.

Speaker 11 (39:12):
Were you surprised that Nike gave us a deal that
was of lesser value than some of the other schools.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
No, because we're not a football school and the money's
in football, so so no. I actually think what Kentucky
gets from Nike is kind of amazing considering that we're
not a football school. I have to think that Kentucky
and Duke are by far the schools that get the
most that are basketball primary schools, and Duke is almost

(39:39):
a national brand. Kentucky is too, but Duke is even
more so. Plus Duke has a very rich alumni base.
But yeah, I'm I'm not surprised, you know, just think
about it like this. Think about how many people are
at a Tennessee football game. One hundred thousand people, right,
Think about all the stuff they're buy when they're there.

(40:02):
Take the biggest Kentucky basketball game and it's twenty one
thousand people.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
I mean, it's just a sheer numbers game. At some point, Allen.

Speaker 11 (40:11):
Doctor.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
Yeah, appreciate the call. I mean general of the football schools.
That's it's always going to be the biggest thing.

Speaker 6 (40:18):
That's why when we were talking about Ohio State getting more,
it's just the football brand just carries that you can't
compare yourself.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
And just a population thing, like what's the population of
Texas and Ohio versus Kentucky. I mean, Texas probably got
four or five times as many people. Ohio's probably got
three times as many people. So I mean I think that's.

Speaker 6 (40:38):
Having gone to that Texas game last year, My goodness,
that's a different sport there.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
Yeah, And anyone in Austin knows Texas has a very
wealthy alumni base, very wealthy, so I think Ohio State,
I mean, I would say Kentucky. I mean, we're not
the least wealthy alumni base, but against a lot of
our competition, we probably aren't the highest wealth alumni base.
So in our state, I mean, we're we don't have

(41:03):
the money in our state that other states do. It's
just it's just the fact, Sam, go ahead, Sam.

Speaker 7 (41:11):
Hey, Matt, I just wanted to call because I feel
like I have the solution to the NCAA tournament. I
know that they keep wanting to raise the number of
teams that are in. I feel like that's going to
make it worse and worse and worse. I think that
they should go to the model that they use for
basketball or me for baseball. For basketball, so go into

(41:31):
the Quaw system. You have double eliminations to get to
the sweet sixteen. And then that means that the Kentucky's,
the Dukes of the world that are playing, if they
lose a game, they still have a chance to go back.
It's double that means they get the more money. They get,
more money they do the reason why they want.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
To stand it. That's at the end of the day.
I agree with you.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
I think it would make some sense to like go
double elimination in the final four or something like that.
In the early rounds. The NCAA Tournament needs Oakland beat
in Kentucky.

Speaker 7 (42:04):
That's true. But at the same time, like you don't
you want them. They would still be able to beat them,
you know what I mean. But it just doesn't knock
them out.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
But it's not as big a deal.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
Winning one out of the three out of the three
is not enough, Like they gotta beat us. I do
think going to the double elimination in the final four
would be good, but the magic of the NCAA Tournament
is Oakland over Kentucky and you can't you can't lose that.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
I don't think