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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Welcome everybody. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here at the
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Kentucky Association of Health plans right here in the Healthy
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Horizons Pavilion in the South wing B I was navigating
this place, trying to fight it earlier. I got here,
and look at what we see. When we got here.
We've got people, a big crowd. I said, look, there
won't be places for people to sit. They came anyway,
which is very nice. We got this young guy right here.
He's got a Rye Lemon shirt. He came up to
me within seconds. To me walking up here made me
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feel old. He said, I Stip been listening to you
since I was six years old.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That hurts.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
That hurts. Yeah, Now he does say seventeen, although you
could pass for twenty eight. I'm not gonna lie to you.
But nevertheless, we got Kentucky Joe. Don't sing to anybody,
but it's nice to see you late. Oh you did. Yeah,
And then I'm sure that one guy is gonna show
up at some point during the show, But Drew Franklin,
h Shannon the Dude. Great to be out here at
the State Fair again.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
It is my super Bowl out here, as you know,
I love love the Kentucky State Fair out time every year.
I'm gonna be out here four times this year. Tomorrow
night for Blue Oyster Cult.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh, Blue Oyster Cult. Yeah, same guys, the original.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
No, I think two of them might be okay. Sunday
is the big country Music or Not festival. But the
nineties show with like Satan Kershaw calling Ray Tipping, the
guy who wants spot at you at the gym?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Do you think you'll remember?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
All right?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
And then we got some other shows coming up next
week too, so I'll be out here a lot looking
forward to it.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
And you love like all the dips and all that
stuff too.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Or there you go and you get the pretzels and
you dip your pretzel in there where everybody else is
dipped in.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Red barn biscuits. I see, this is your kind of
if Shannon the Dude were to like have his heaven,
this is it. This is where, this is where it is.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
When I die, Just bury me underneath of the fair
and expos That's right, Yeah, let's comeing right here for
a little tombs story.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
What about you.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Well, it's funny he says that because the longest time
I thought Shannon was like just a troll that lived
at the fair. I'm because the first time I met
Shannon was at the fair. Then like a year past,
I didn't see him again, and so he did another
show at the fair, and for a while I just
knew Shannon is always a fair.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
You know, like when I retire, I want to be
a carneiye, I could just bark at people on the midway.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, well I.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Think that's to be honest with you, I think that's
a goal you could achieve.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, I think I could do that.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I think I think if you worked towards that, Shannon,
you have the skills, you two could.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Be a car You've always gotta have a fallback plan.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
That's bad. Well, we got a lot of stuff to
get to today. I actually wanted to start with, uh,
something I don't do a lot, which is actually talk
about another show or podcast, which is the Matt Norlander
College Basketball podcast. The reason I want to talk about
it is he had his as his guest, Mark Pope.
It went seventy minutes yesterday. Actually, I recommend for folks
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that you listen to it. It was interesting to listen
to Mark Pope with him. He was different than he
was on this show in a different way. It is
clear to me, Drew, that Mark Pope and Matt Norlander
are friends. If you listen to it, it's clear Norlander.
There's like two people in college basketball media that I
think we're friends with Mark Pope before he got here,
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and that would be Matt Norlander and Jeff Goodman. And
I think when those two guys say something about him,
I tend to listen a little bit more because I
know they know him. And you could hear listening to
this podcast that Matt Norlander and here he are like
like they're they're talking about Miles Davis together and clearly
so they know that the other one likes Miles Davis.
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But he said a number of things, and I encourage
you to listen, but I also just want to rattle
through him, rattle through some of the highlights because I
think they're important for people who are Kentucky fans to
know about Mark Pope. So are you ready for some
of these? They're ready? Let's get started. He was asked
by Matt Norlander to grade last year's season, grade how
he thought they would do. I'm always interested when coaches
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are asked this because they won't give themselves an A
unless they're just a jerk, right, But some of them
will give themselves like an A half he said, solid B
B minus. He said, I'd give myself a BB minus.
He said, ultimately I didn't succeed because the success here
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is winning the national championship. But he gave himself a
BB minus. I think he's a hard grater. I would
have said a minus for me, probably maybe lost a
few games during the season. I think they shouldn't have lost.
But he also won eight games against top fifteen teams,
which is more than any college basketball team ever in
the history of college basketball.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
But he gave himself a BB months. Yeah, I feel
like it's a pretty honest assessment. I would have gone
a little higher as a fan of Pope, but I
guess he's punishing himself the SEC standings.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You know, they hope to never be that low again.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
You're not an SEC tournament by the weekend when Pope
knows how important that is to the fans. So I
think that would be about right. Also had some great
wins in that regular season.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, yeah, I think probably give him a v plus
considering how quickly he threw everything together and how he
made that team gel the way they did.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I think that he did a great job.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, I think he's hard on himself. I would have
said a minus. Now. I thought this was interesting. Matt
Norlanders said, what was the high point of the season.
What game were you the happiest, What game were you
the saddest. For that saddest, he picked Ohio State up
in Madison Square Garden where we got beat by twenty.
He said. Madison Square Garden is next to him, next
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to Rupperina, the most important gym in the country to him,
and he thought it was embarrassing the performance they gave
and he was very concerned. What was interesting is, he said,
the best moment of the year. I wouldn't have sguessed this,
but we were there was in Seattle and the comeback
against Gonzaga. He said, when Jackson, when when they lost
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both Kerk Crisa and Lamont Butler and were still able
to come back and win on what essentially amounted to
Gonzaga's home court. He said that was the first moment
he thought, oh wow, this team could be special.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah, and if I remember correctly, it wasn't just bouncing
back from losing injuries. They completely changed up their defense
in that second half. Maybe it was like a one
three one zone. I think that might have cooled Gonzaga
off when they were completely hot in the first half.
So I could see why he'd be proud of that game.
I would I would probably lean Duke in that moment
where he tells, go get two hands on Cooper Flash.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, he mentioned Duke his second Duke was exciting, but
you know it was also their first game with freshman.
He thought that the Gonzaga game was a game where
he thought, Okay, this is a team that can do something.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, I thought that, you know, Kentucky was gonna get
blown out, Kirk Crisa goes down with the injury, then
they come back and win, and that right there was
the moment where I knew that this team had a
lot of fight. And we saw that multiple times throughout
the season, but that was really the first time that
we saw it.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
He then went player by player talking about the team
this year, who he thought would be good, et cetera.
And he said that he believes Drew otaga Away will
be the best defender in America this year. Said he
thinks so taga Away will be the best defender in America.
I thought he was a good defender last year, and
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by the end of the year, I thought he was
really good. Do you think best defender in America is plausible?
Speaker 5 (08:08):
That's really high praise. I'm excited about a big jump
in the combine. I know it's a Wednesday afternoon in
a scrimmage in Chicago, but always looked like such a
good defender up there, as in those pre draft scrimmages.
And I eventually pulled out of the draft, but a
few times he was in those five on fives he
looked like a completely different defender, and I thought, Oh,
is he gonna bring that back to Lexington for the
next year. And it sounds like that's gonna be a
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big part of his game.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I like that when he's talking about Jaden Quaintans, of course, Uh, Norlander,
really you? Norlander pushed him in a way like I
wouldn't feel comfortable because I don't know Mark like that.
He clearly did so. He wouldn't let Mark evade questions
and he'd say, you didn't answer my question. Things I
would say to maybe Mark stoops he said to it,
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maybe we'll get there one day, but he did it.
And with Jaden Quaintan's he said when's he gonna come back?
And he didn't want to answer. And then finally Mark said,
he will not play every game this year, Shannon, but
he certainly thought he would play a decent amount of games.
He made it sound like we're talking Christmas e which
is kind of what we thought. But it was interesting
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to hear from me.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, I'm good with that.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I would rather have him in February and March than
I would in November December. So if he needs to
take a couple of months to rest up and get,
you know, his injury healed entirely, then I'm good with that.
He did look good at the Dirt Bowl, though, that dog,
that dog, I mean, he has a great hang time.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well, he said in terms of that this three weeks
are his most important three weeks of his whole process
of recovery, so he thought he.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Would know more in three weeks. He's the first one
back on campus. As they started making their way back
from vacation, I'm you though. That was the moment you
could tell nor Lander was comfortable because he just interrupted
Pope like, no, no, Gil, come on, give me a month.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, he was like this answer my question, son, Like
he was very very specific. Then I thought this was
interesting about Jayon quaints because I don't really know anything
about him beyond that he's really good at basketball, Pope says.
Because Pope's apparently pretty good at chess, like not great,
but pretty good at chess. He said. Jaden Quaintans is
up five to one against him on chess, he says. Now,
(10:10):
I don't play chess, but I do know enough about
chess to know you got to be pretty smart to
do it. So I kind of like drew a dude.
If he's up five to one on a grown man
on chess, we might actually he might be like a
really smart player.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Yeah, we know how bright. Pope is a probably highest
IQ in that building. But if you're star player that's
projected lottery pick just wants to hang out and be
nerds together, that's gonna be nothing but good things. I
like that he has that asude and just.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Break Apparently he's a much better chess player than a driver.
Though he can't pass his driver.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
He cannot pass and and Pope confirmed did not pass
the driver's test. Apparently it wasn't close because he ran
over a cone, which is not what you want to
do on your driver's tests. He's driving like that kid's
walking like sometimes you fall down, all right. Then he
was asked about schedule. He said, every single year he
wants Kentucky to have the hardest schedule in college basketball.
(11:02):
I can't tell you how much I love that Cauz
col played pretty hard schedules, but then wind about it
the whole time. I loved Pope saying this is Kentucky.
We should play the hardest schedule in college basketball every year.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
And last year it was ridiculously hard. It was the
third hardest in the country. And he was talking like
how disappointed he was that it was only the third hardest,
like second, third best and good enough for him. He
wants to be the best at everything, have the hardest schedule,
play the best teams.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
You're Kentucky basketball. You shouldn't be afraid of anybody. And
I think you need to be battle tested going into March.
And if you've already played the best teams in the
regular season, you're ready to.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Go for it.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, just to some other little personality things I thought
fans would think is interesting. They asked him about why
he was the number forty one, and for those of
you with religious backgrounds, he gave an answer that was
like two minutes all about the Bible. He was like, Noah,
the water flooded for forty days and then it was
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the first day that he was able to, uh to
get off the flood. He said, uh uh, Moses that
when they left the or got the promise, say whatever
was the day forty one. Jesus was on earth for
forty days and then God called him back home on
day forty one. He said that for him forty one,
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he like, he literally mentioned my mom would have loved it.
He mentioned like six things from the Bible, all of
which were on the forty first day, and that's why.
And then he said Kobe Brea, which not quite the
same as the Bible, but Kobe Brea was picked forty
first in the draft and his first win at Kentucky
was by forty one points. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
I still think Kyle probably just gave it to him here,
Man's I mean, you think all that and I think
he's had thirty years to put that together back.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Okay, there's still still think he rolled in.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Kyler was like, here you go, man, welcome, Here's that's
usually the way it works. I was.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
His biblic And you're suggesting none of that was the reason.
Great answer, nice and polished.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
I'm just I'm just thinking he's transferred in Patino's telling
to run kit like here's a joursey.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I think Mark Pope would. I think it was because
of Noah Moses.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Gave him two.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I don't know, have figured out something else. He also,
all right, one more answer. I loved. He was asked
about the portal. And you know, what do most coaches
say about the portal? What do they say when when
me ninked it's not good? Me me, me, me, me me.
What does Mark Pope say? He said, I love the portal.
He said, this is the best time to coach college
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basketball in history because it's unique. You don't know what's
gonna happen, and I feel like I have a chance
to beat everybody else at it because nobody knows what
to do. See that is what a creative person thinks.
There's like a market inefficiency. How do I beat it
and then take advantage of it. I love it. I've
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sat here and listened to coaches in all sports complaining
the whole thing's falling apart. He said, Look, are there
things I do differently? Sure, but this is the most
exciting time to coach. And I'd rather be coaching now
than any other time. That's what you want, Shannon, if
you're gonna have a coach for the future, they can't
sit there and wait for a time that the is gone.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
It's adapt or die, right.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
The portal's not going anywhere, So whether or not you
like it, you have to figure out how can you
get ahead of it. And Mark Pope, I think does
a better job than anybody at that and it helps
when you're at Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Let's be real now.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Last thing, and I actually, just as a human found
this interesting. He was asked, what is the worst part
of the job. What's the worst part of being the
coach at Kentucky. Now, I thought this was a really
interesting answer, he said. The worst part is kind of
also the best part. He said, but once you're the
coach at Kentucky, you essentially become public property. He was, like,
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your life becomes public property. The state kind of owns
you in a way, and he said, that's just taking
some of me getting used to He's like, I don't
hate it, but it also makes it to where you
kind of are no longer yourself your public property. I
think that's a fascinating thing to say, and I get it.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Yeah, I mean he's very aware of the position holds
and all that comes with it. I think when he
first got here, even though he had been through it
as a player, you know, back before we had phones
taking picture everywhere, when there was that phase of every restaurant,
you know, it's getting reported where he sitting, I think
there was a moment where he's thinking, my goodness, what
is this job that I've gotten into.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
But the thing that I think he does so well,
maybe better than any coach, is how accessible he is
and approachable, you know what I mean. You can go
up and you can just talk to him and he
would he talk to you and take a picture of
whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
And the last thing, just for the record, he probably
wouldn't like me highlighting this, but when I said this
about a week ago, I got a lot of angry
messages from people. A lot of you are not you
all here. You are wonderful, but with some of the
people listening, got a little angry messages at me for
saying this. He quoted he said the exact same answer.
Matt Layne Landers said, if you could have dinner with
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anybody alive, who would you say, and he said, Barack Obama.
I'm just saying, don't get mad at me, he's steaking liberal.
He said that our coach also said Barack Obama. Dru
So I'm not the only one that would have said
that as an ant, so.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I wondered if that would stick with you if you
bring it up on the show today. It stood out
to me that doesn't like blue cheese? That was one
of my big taken.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
On Yeah, I love blue cheese. What's wrong with blue Chao?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Actually another one that stood out to me because you
don't hear a coach admit this. As nor Lander asked
him how much he reads, how many podcasts consumes if
he's on social media.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
He said all the time. He said, yeah, I'm on
it a lot.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
A lot of coaches, even though we know they are,
they pretend they're not to not hear it.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
He admitted, I thought that was really interesting. They he
asked for for They asked him, do you follow what
the media says in college basketball and local Kentucky media
what they said, and he said, I follow it all.
I appreciate he's being honest. All these coaches do it
and then say they don't. He acknowledged that he did,
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and I thought that was cool. So I highly recommend
that interview. It's called like I on college basketball, but
it's seventy minutes with Pope, and I think it was
really good. We are here at the State Fair with
Kentucky Association, a health player in Louisville. It's a beautiful day,
great Kentucky crowd taking over the city of Louisville. I'm
gonna tell you what we almost had happened today. Actually
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I'm not because it's gonna happen one day and I
want to surprise you. But we will take a break
and be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back.
It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live in Louisville at
the Kentucky State Fair. You can get a flu shot
right here. You get a Kroger gift card. If you
get it the way, you won't get the flu this
(17:32):
fall and help prevent it against the flu or you
do you get flu shots?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. It's like, you know,
it's like everything roulette will.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I feel like this is your time, it's right.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Here, and I could go krogering after that.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
That's right, it's right, that's perfect me. I get flu
shots and I like going to kroger. This is my
kind of party.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It's a great combination. Eight five nine two eight h
twenty two eighty seven. Great crowd here. I always like
to do this. Look and see what's at the fair.
Let's go throughout our throughout our show here today, I'll
read you things happening today at the State Fair. And
you could tell me if you want going on right now?
I hate I don't want you to leave this, but
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I would understand if you did. Going on right now?
Is the uh something to crow about? Contests right over there?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Contest?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I don't know, That's what I'm asking you. What is that?
What do you think the something to crow about? Contests?
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Like?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I don't. People don't. People don't own crows, right like
they just fly and show.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Up in your Harvey would tell you they would bring
you like jewelry and watches.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
And stuff they know they would steal from that. They
were thieves. Yeah, thieves are the animal kingdoms.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
What I think it is, I think.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
It's a collection of stolen goods to bring them in
here and you know, sell them to.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Get the heat. I was trying to think about what
something to crow about festival would be. Is that people
like impersonating crows are crowing about something? Okay, can you can?
Does anybody know how to do.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
A crow called?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
We got a poodle over here.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I got your poodle if you need a poot. I
don't know about a crow though.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I don't know if you have crow in you. Well,
i'd be if anybody goes to something to crow about contest,
let me know what it is. I'd be interested to.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Uh think you're out to eat some crow? When the
Reds don't make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
All right, well you brought this up. I wasn't gonna
do I you're welcome.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
The Braves won hot.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Hot a steaming baseball. I wasn't gonna talk about them
till the second hour because some people are like, hey,
you talk about the Reds too much and we don't
have that mean Reds fans. With that said We're only
a half game back now, yeah, welcome you, thank you
very much. We are a half game back the summer
of Elie. Now we play the best team in baseball
that's won twelve straight game, so things are against us.
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But I'm gonna go ahead and tell you if we
don't get swept, even if we just win one game
this weekend, I'm good. If we win two on Monday,
I'm coming in like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Wait with the George Webberger in your hand. Yeah, that's right,
like you.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Know, pants off, like I don't oh wow, hr over
the Reds. But I mean, I'm I'm gonna be excited.
This is good. This is also kind of exciting because
they said, because I've been so excited, they've invited me
on September the fifth, and I am inviting you two
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to come with me if you promise to wear Reds gear.
So here's this is what I'm gonna say. I'm not
gonna tell you what it is yet. Do you promise
to on September fifth wear Reds gear?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Let me check my calendar here.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I just need a yes or no. I'll wear my
Doug Flinch. Doug Flinch, you will wear Reds gear on
the September the fifth. Now you want to hear what
we're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
We we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
They've invited me to come on the field prior to
the game to watch batting practice, so we can stand
right there next to Ellie. And by the way, September
the fifth is not a little game. They play the
Mets that night. Who's who they're going against, Like, this
is a big game and they're gonna need our help.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Letting you get a couple of cuts in before the game.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Ellie's gonna need our tips here before the game. So
are you in?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Let's go? I'm all in on that. That sounds like
a lot of fun. Drew.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Last time you made me wear Reds gear to a
Reds game, I did more harm than good.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I don't know if you want me to do.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Have you do in the match game?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah? No, I just we wearing. I'll dust off the
Doug Flinn shirt they so, I think. So September fifth,
it's it's just a few days before I go to
South Africa. We are gonna go. It's it's the last
home game I'll get to go to all year.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
So that's part of I'm looking forward to it. It
sounds like a lot of fun, all right.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Eight fed nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven.
I was on Greg McElroy and Cole Kubrick right before
I came here. I was actually walking trying to find
this place while on the phone those guys. Of course,
nobody knows the SEC better than those two guys, two
of the biggest announcers that do SEC football. Cole Kublick said,
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what do you think Kentucky's gonna do this year? Record wise?
I said five and seven. He said, you're too pessimistic.
You guys are making a bowl this year.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
That made me feel good. And then Greg McElroy said,
I think Kentucky is the hardest team to predict in
all of college football this year. He said, if you
all win four, it wouldn't shot me. If you won eight,
it wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Shot well, that would shock me.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And he said all of the SEC, the coaches, et cetera,
have no idea what to think about Kentucky because they
think they could be really good or really bad, and
nobody is really sure. I thought both of those were
interesting comments. Yeah, especially the mystery part. We're all a
little down because how last year went. But they have
fifty new players.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Unless you're at every single practice, and even doing that,
it'd be hard to know how they're gonna look when
you finally get out on the field there in a
few weeks.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And Cole Kubrick is a big offensive line guys, because
he that's what he cares about. He said he's heard
Kentucky's offensive line is this was his words, old school,
good for Kentucky. So that made me feel better. I'm
not glad. We'll take a break. We'll be right back.
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eight oh twenty two eighty seven. I'm gonna go to the
phones one Merson rights, Matt. I heard you on McElroy
and Cole Kubick. Another thing I like that they said
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is they think Kentucky's culture is back, and that they're
hearing people in the SEC say they think it'll be better.
I was glad to hear that too. You know, they
talked to coaches and people around staffs. I thought that
was good news.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
That's something that's been clear even in the media. Got
to go to two practices. Anytime you talk to a player,
it's not just some speak, some messaging that the program
wants those guys to get out. They're all holding each
other accountable. You can see it if you're around there
at all.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
One person rights. I'd like to know from each of you,
what would be more surprising to you Kentucky winning only
three games or Kentucky winning seven games, which would be
more shocking. We all we've all kind of predicted four, five,
or six, which is more shocking? Three or seven.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
For me, I think three would be more shocking because
I've already predicted six. So that just means, you see,
they just need one more, so I could see there
being a path to seven.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Three.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
I don't think there's any way it's that bad. Four maybe,
but not that bad.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, I'd be surprised if it's three. I think they're
gonna they're gonna take They'll steal one from somebody, so
I would say three seven. I mean, okay, you want
to make the case for seven. The case for seven
is you beat Vandy, you beat Auburn, and you win
two of the whole. Then you win two of you're
either Florida, Tennessee, Texas, Oh Miss at Louisville. Not crazy.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Yeah, And I think seven is more likely than three two.
They're gonna win an SEC game. I'm looking at ed Vandy.
I know it's there and they've won two out of three,
but the league's hopefully caught up to Pavia now they
know who he is. I think Tennessee might not be
all that they're hyped up to be. And then you
have Florida coming to Licen in November. I think any
of those games you could count them getting one of them.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
There's a clip that was going around on social media
of an Old Miss podcast saying that the Kentucky game
was the most important game of the lane Kiff and
tenure that if that, if they if he does not
win that game, a lot of fans will start to
be uh a.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Question to look back at last year.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
I mean, you know it could happen, It could happen
this year where it's at least a close game in
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
He got a chance, they got worse and you got better,
and you beat them there last year.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
So just a simple generic look at the games as
you should be in. It should be who's up first,
Mike is up first, Mike, go ahead, Mike.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Hey, guys, how are y'all this morning?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Doing good?
Speaker 6 (25:44):
A question for you if SAE Kentucky goes two and
ten this year and they decide to part ways too
with SEUs, how much you have an impact? Is the
allocation of money between football and basketball going to impact
their ability to hire an established coach?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah? I mean that's what's hard is because I appreciate
the call because Mitch is taking the position that we're
not gonna know how much of the REV share goes
to football, how much goes to basketball. I have a
fundamental disagreement with him on that, but he articulated his
position because we don't know that it's gonna be hard
to know when they go out and get a coach
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whether or not the money had anything to do with it.
How you gonna even know because we don't even know
what the money.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Is, right, you know, it's hard to know. You know
it's gonna have a big impact. You just none of
like I said, none of us will know about it.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, so I don't know. He did, Uh what Pope thing?
He asked Pope whose roster costs more yours or Saint
or Rick Patino's. And Pope said something like, in anything
I'd do against Patino, I'm beating him. Love that, which
(26:49):
I thought was interesting because I mean, most people think
Patino's roster costs more than anyone in college basketball. I
know Pope was kind of kidding, but he was also
kind of insinuating our costs more than that.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Yeah, he's being playful with Patino. But he also answered
the question somewhat indirectly. But he did not say. You know,
you think if he if he didn't want the message
out there they spent a lot, he'd easily put that
on Rick, like, oh Rick spent the most by far,
he's Rick.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
But no, he Pope took that one interesting. You know,
if you're sitting there building a roster, there's an argument
that you want to put out there that we pay
the most. There's also an argument that if you put
out there we pay the most, you're gonna get asked
for the most, you know what I mean, So, like
(27:34):
it can kind of go either way, you know. There's
it's like when you're hiring someone. On the one hand,
if you have a really competitive salary, you want to say,
we have a really competitive salary, but you also don't
want to make it to where you could have gotten
somebody for one hundred thousand dollars and they charge you
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars because you said you
pay one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, you know what
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I mean.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Like, since I don't know what you want to do that,
I think it does help you get to the table though,
if you're one the top spenders, at least gets you
in the mixing on less than get you down to
the final stages so you can work it out on
the paperwork.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah. So I don't know who's up next? Judy is
up next? Judy? Go ahead, Judy?
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Hey uh, I just didn't listening to the seventy Minutes
podcast with Pope and I have not done my research yet,
but they said that Kentucky winning eight of the fifteen
top teams that was this year, but there were two
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other teams that have done it.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
The past.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
I have not recessed that yet.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
And you all let me know what we don't talk about.
We don't talk about them, right like if we were
the one, if we were one of them, we'll just
act like the other people don't exist. There's no reason
to give those other teams a credit.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
Right, I love it? Yes, I agree?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Facts agree, Facts are optional.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
At right? That's right for you all.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Have a great time, all right, appreciate the call. What's
your favorite food item to eat at the fair? Uh?
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Usually the pork chop from the Kentucky Port Producers.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
That's right over there.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Yeah, that's usually what we do after the show. You
want to grab one after the show to their love.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
They now ever have seats, but I'd love to go
over there. What about you?
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Some gotta be deep fried, probably deep fried Oreos maybe
deep fried? Uh really anything deep fried, especially sweet.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
They've had it like okay.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
They've added a few new things, including like a hot
Cheetos corn dog where they roll the corn dog in
hot cheeto like crushed up hot cheetos.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
They roll the corn dog and hot cheetos.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I don't like corn dogs, but I do like hot cheetos,
so I could see how that would.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Be sound good to me? I think may have to
try out.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Corn dogs are kind of gross. Hey, Rick, did you
get your wine that I bought you last week? Or
did Shannon leave it in his car?
Speaker 8 (29:50):
No, Shannon personally handed it to me earlier this morning.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
But so when are you going to when are you
gonna treat yourself to the to the wine? It was?
It's it's a nice bottle, so I hope you do it.
It's something a special moment.
Speaker 8 (30:07):
Well, I'm gonna take it home and put it in
my wine fridge so it chills to the correct temperature,
and I'll promise.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
The correct temperature. What is the correct temperature?
Speaker 8 (30:16):
Well, it's a red wine, so for me, it's fifty
five degrees.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
That was It was only about ninety five degrees in
my car last night. I was still in there.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
So it's good for the grape. The grapes like it
to be hot and then really cold. So well, I
hope you enjoy it and when you when you when
you sip on it, Uh, Rick, I hope you think
about how much what a great job you do for
us when we're out on remote. Well, I really appreciate
that Matt. Of course. Sorry, who's next? Rick? Got Charlie?
(30:47):
Up next, Charlie? Go ahead, Charlie.
Speaker 9 (30:51):
Hey Matt, first time, long time?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Who are what's up?
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (30:56):
You were talking about the Little League World Series yesterday?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yes? And my predictions were good. My predictions that Japan
won twelve to nothing, South Carolina won thirteen to nothing.
South Dakota one, Like there's a pom. Well, the Little
League World Series actually issued a statement right after you
think I'm joking. The Little League World Series issued a
statement at like one pm saying please don't bet on
(31:22):
little League baseball. I was like, did you listen to
my draft kings.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Apps Land Security online?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
One?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Again?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah? But go ahead, sir.
Speaker 9 (31:30):
Well, back in nineteen seventy one, I was on the
first team from Kentucky to represent the state in the
Little League World Series?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Where where was that.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
Garden side Little League in Licenson?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Well, congratulations, did you all win the Little League World Series?
Speaker 9 (31:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
No, h.
Speaker 9 (31:51):
Lloyd mcclindon was a pitcher from Gary, Indiana, played for
the Red They signed him as a twelve year old
to be their catcher.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
And that's not true. Five foot eight and twelve year old,
hang on, just a second, sir, I said, sir, sir,
I might have to stop you. The red did not
sign twelve year old to be their catcher. First of all,
I think that violates.
Speaker 9 (32:11):
Child when he was when he was twelve years old,
that the Reds had signed him to be their catcher
he was five, they did. It's five homes did not.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
The Reds did not sign a twelve year old to
be their catcher, Sir. That can't be true if any
team would do it.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
Okay, okay, they had him, I don't know in their
farm league as a twelve year old.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Listen, I believe, Okay, okay, here's what I'd believe. I
believe the Reds saw him play.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, maybe had a scout there.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I do not believe they signed a twelve year old
to be their catcher. That's I am almost certain. That's
against the wall.
Speaker 9 (32:58):
Well, okay, we're twelve years old. That was what was
going around the camp that the Reds.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Had, just like you were told there was a ghost
in the cabin next to you. Now that I can believe, sir.
Speaker 9 (33:14):
But anyway, he was five for five. It's five home runs,
Todd Bubbow record for a little league player. He last
time I saw him, he was coaching the American League
All Star team.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Cool wy, well, thank you appreciate the congratulations on being
the first one you look up.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I can't find anything, just like a make a wish situation.
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
No. I mean I actually have heard of Lloyd McLean,
and I think he did end up playing in the majors.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Hey did with the Pirates in the Reds.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah. I think he was actually pretty good pitch, a
pretty good player. But I do not believe he was
signed as a twelve year old, although I do like
the confidence with which he said it. And this is
what's great about people. He said it with confidence, and
then I said, well that's what and then he was like,
well that's what people were saying at the time.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
I haven't know, have a hard time believing him with
five or five of five home.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Runs, Oh that's right here, hitting five homers and five
swings at age twelve.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Now that's cool. Yeah, so he five swings five home runs.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
What it says does not say he had a contract
at the age of twelve.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
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right here to the to the right of us. Hey
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five nine, two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. Let's
talk quickly. Well, first of all, there was a man.
I'm not gonna point out which one he was, because
I don't know if he wants me to. But there
was a man who just came over here and showed
us a video that he visited Duke University, my law
school alma mater, and he walked to the front sign.
(36:05):
By the way, I've walked through that gate hundreds of times.
He walked through the front sign in his Kentucky gear
and Kentucky shorts and then proceeded to pee on the
Duke sign.
Speaker 10 (36:19):
Can't be doing that. He did it though he got
away with it in broad daylight. How long ago was that?
How long ago? That's what I was gonna say. Yeah,
I wonder if the guy could be.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
I don't know, like what the penalty is for that,
but it wouldn't be worth it for me.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Who could it be? Could it be the guy screaming
statue of limitations?
Speaker 5 (36:41):
I think in the video he's wearing a Tyree's Maxi jersey,
so it puts.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
It and keep that video. You're you're right next to
the Jefferson County Sheriff's office.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Don't don't airdrop that.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Make sure you keep that one to yourself. Now that
haircut wouldn't give it away. Let's quickly talk about yesterday
they announced BBN United.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
No great tournament, great round robin.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
No, no, no, this is the this is the fan thing. Oh,
it's the proof of their marketing. This is the fan thing.
So if you didn't see the fan, this is the
fan like experience, right, So you can you can join
this and you can become you know, you can join
these various things. So here's what they are. They have
Cats Club that's on one hundred dollars a year, Club
(37:30):
Blue is three hundred and twenty dollars a year, Select
is seven hundred and fifty dollars a year, Premiere is
fourteen hundred dollars a year, and Elite is twenty six
hundred dollars a year. You get various things. I'll read you.
Just let's say the seven hundred and fifty dollars one.
Let me tell you what you get? Which of these
(37:51):
would you want? Cheh, A welcome pack and two annual
merchandise boxes. No, all access behind the scenes content. Okay,
invite to open practice, that's cool.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
A virtual facility tour, No, I like that. They couldn't
bother let you.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
I can't actually go on.
Speaker 9 (38:14):
Here's what I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Understand about the virtual facility tour. You're already there, Yeah,
I can I just go to the practice.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Are they just gonna make you walk out like you're
already there? So if you're already at the facility, are
you telling me I can't see the facility, drew when
I'm already there, open up a couple of doors.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
You're right, Yeah, you're right there.
Speaker 9 (38:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
You get member voting. You get to vote vote on
what I don't know. You vote people out of the club. Yeah,
get out of BB and unite. I thought that was
kind of funny. You get to vote, but I have
no idea what you would vote on.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, I don't know about that one yet.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Uh, big Blue math. I like this. You get early
access to blue white game.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Tickets, early access.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
How much are those tickets? The tickets but not the
tickets you get access?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
If I pay that kind of money, I should get
the tickets.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I kind of agree with you. Yeah, you get to
be in the sweep steaks for Big Blue Madness tickets.
Now correct me if I'm wrong. We all isn't everyone
in the Blue Madness tickets?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I thought so. And then finally you get to be
part of expanded sweepstakes.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
So like two of the things that you mentioned, the
open practice and one other thing I would be interested
in behind the scenes stuff other than that, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
On the fourteen hundred dollars a year one, you also
get a virtual meat and greet with the players.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Oh, I get to zoom with no no nos basketball football.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
It's another tier up for basketball football players. That's like
probably a sweet This is basketball or football, not guarantee.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Oh I get to talk to like a bowler, someone
on the rifle.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Team, but via zoom. Oh wow, you have the facility
to it.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
How much I gotta pay for that?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
That's fourteen year now, if you get up to twenty
six hundred dollars a year, then you get a basketball.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Oh okay, I gotta pay twelve hundred more dollars just
so you know you're gonna get Reese Potters.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
You're not selling me on this very well.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
No, okay, so look I'm seeing this. I'm I'm giving
it a hard time. I think this is important, Drew,
but I also think, again, nobody asked me my opinion.
This pretty expensive stuff. I mean, the first tier is
one hundred dollars, but all you get at one hundred
dollars is quote exclusive perks, but it doesn't even say
(40:38):
what they are. And then everything I just read you
starts at three hundred and twenty dollars a year. I
mean that's really expensive. I think they're gonna have to
give a little bit more to people to me. Of
all those things they say, the open practice is kind
of the coolest one of all of them, to be honest,
(40:58):
it is.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
But well, there's there's two types people that are gonna
join the club. There are the people who just want
to give the money and okay, they live out of town,
Sure I get a T shirt. Whatever, here's a thousand bucks.
I just want us to be good that they'll get
them regardless. But that's a pretty underwhelming list of experiences
for the other people that are signing up to get
something in return.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I mean, call me crazy, but I would rather take
about three hundred and twenty dollars and buy a ticket
to a game than spend it on that.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I think you've got to I mean, I think fans
want to support it, but I sit here and look
at the fans here. I just this is I just
want Kentucky to not forget about the average fan. Like
this whole seven hundred and fifty dollars a year, that's nice,
(41:43):
but the heart of Big Blue Nation are people that
come to the State Fair to watch a random radio
show on a Friday, And I just worry we keep
moving farther and farther away from that to get to
this group of virtual meet and greets or virtual tours.
This is why Big Blue Nation is great. We just
(42:04):
can't get away from that, even though I know we
need to raise money, but I thought, for j with
the JMI, that's how we were getting all the money
to begin with. So I don't know, We'll take a break,
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That hurts.
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That hurts. Yeah, Now he does say seventeen, although you
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Speaker 4 (02:04):
It is my super Bowl out here, as you know,
I love love the Kentucky State Fair out time every year.
I'm gonna be out here four times this year. Tomorrow
night for Blue Oyster Cult.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh, Blue Oyster Cult. Yeah, same guys, the original.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
No, I think two of them might be okay. Sunday
is the big country Music or Not festival. But the
nineties show with like Satan Kershaw calling Ray Tipping, the
guy who wants spot at you at the gym?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Do you think you'll remember?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
All right?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
And then we got some other shows coming up next
week too, so I'll be out here a lot looking
forward to it.
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Speaker 4 (02:36):
Or there you go and you get the pretzels and
you dip your pretzel in there where everybody else is
dipped in.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Red barn biscuits. I see, this is your kind of
if Shannon the Dude were to like have his heaven,
this is it. This is where, this is where it is.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
When I die, Just bury me underneath of the fair
and expos That's right, Yeah, let's comeing right here for
a little tombs story.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
What about you.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Well, it's funny he says that because the longest time
I thought Shannon was like just a troll that lived
at the fair. I'm because the first time I met
Shannon was at the fair. Then like a year past,
I didn't see him again, and so he did another
show at the fair, and for a while I just
knew Shannon is always a fair.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
You know, like when I retire, I want to be
a carneiye, I could just bark at people on the midway.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, well I.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Think that's to be honest with you, I think that's
a goal you could achieve.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, I think I could do that.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I think I think if you worked towards that, Shannon,
you have the skills, you two could.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Be a car You've always gotta have a fallback plan.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
That's bad. Well, we got a lot of stuff to
get to today. I actually wanted to start with, uh,
something I don't do a lot, which is actually talk
about another show or podcast, which is the Matt Norlander
College Basketball podcast. The reason I want to talk about
it is he had his as his guest, Mark Pope.
It went seventy minutes yesterday. Actually, I recommend for folks
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that you listen to it. It was interesting to listen
to Mark Pope with him. He was different than he
was on this show in a different way. It is
clear to me, Drew, that Mark Pope and Matt Norlander
are friends. If you listen to it, it's clear Norlander.
There's like two people in college basketball media that I
think we're friends with Mark Pope before he got here,
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and that would be Matt Norlander and Jeff Goodman. And
I think when those two guys say something about him,
I tend to listen a little bit more because I
know they know him. And you could hear listening to
this podcast that Matt Norlander and here he are like
like they're they're talking about Miles Davis together and clearly
so they know that the other one likes Miles Davis.
(04:33):
But he said a number of things, and I encourage
you to listen, but I also just want to rattle
through him, rattle through some of the highlights because I
think they're important for people who are Kentucky fans to
know about Mark Pope. So are you ready for some
of these? They're ready? Let's get started. He was asked
by Matt Norlander to grade last year's season, grade how
he thought they would do. I'm always interested when coaches
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are asked this because they won't give themselves an A
unless they're just a jerk, right, But some of them
will give themselves like an A half he said, solid B
B minus. He said, I'd give myself a BB minus.
He said, ultimately I didn't succeed because the success here
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is winning the national championship. But he gave himself a
BB minus. I think he's a hard grater. I would
have said a minus for me, probably maybe lost a
few games during the season. I think they shouldn't have lost.
But he also won eight games against top fifteen teams,
which is more than any college basketball team ever in
the history of college basketball.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
But he gave himself a BB months. Yeah, I feel
like it's a pretty honest assessment. I would have gone
a little higher as a fan of Pope, but I
guess he's punishing himself the SEC standings.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You know, they hope to never be that low again.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
You're not an SEC tournament by the weekend when Pope
knows how important that is to the fans. So I
think that would be about right. Also had some great
wins in that regular season.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, yeah, I think probably give him a v plus
considering how quickly he threw everything together and how he
made that team gel the way they did.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I think that he did a great job.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, I think he's hard on himself. I would have
said a minus. Now. I thought this was interesting. Matt
Norlanders said, what was the high point of the season.
What game were you the happiest, What game were you
the saddest. For that saddest, he picked Ohio State up
in Madison Square Garden where we got beat by twenty.
He said. Madison Square Garden is next to him, next
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to Rupperina, the most important gym in the country to him,
and he thought it was embarrassing the performance they gave
and he was very concerned. What was interesting is, he said,
the best moment of the year. I wouldn't have sguessed this,
but we were there was in Seattle and the comeback
against Gonzaga. He said, when Jackson, when when they lost
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both Kerk Crisa and Lamont Butler and were still able
to come back and win on what essentially amounted to
Gonzaga's home court. He said that was the first moment
he thought, oh wow, this team could be special.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah, and if I remember correctly, it wasn't just bouncing
back from losing injuries. They completely changed up their defense
in that second half. Maybe it was like a one
three one zone. I think that might have cooled Gonzaga
off when they were completely hot in the first half.
So I could see why he'd be proud of that game.
I would I would probably lean Duke in that moment
where he tells, go get two hands on Cooper Flash.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, he mentioned Duke his second Duke was exciting, but
you know it was also their first game with freshman.
He thought that the Gonzaga game was a game where
he thought, Okay, this is a team that can do something.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, I thought that, you know, Kentucky was gonna get
blown out, Kirk Crisa goes down with the injury, then
they come back and win, and that right there was
the moment where I knew that this team had a
lot of fight. And we saw that multiple times throughout
the season, but that was really the first time that
we saw it.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
He then went player by player talking about the team
this year, who he thought would be good, et cetera.
And he said that he believes Drew otaga Away will
be the best defender in America this year. Said he
thinks so taga Away will be the best defender in America.
I thought he was a good defender last year, and
(08:03):
by the end of the year, I thought he was
really good. Do you think best defender in America is plausible?
Speaker 5 (08:08):
That's really high praise. I'm excited about a big jump
in the combine. I know it's a Wednesday afternoon in
a scrimmage in Chicago, but always looked like such a
good defender up there, as in those pre draft scrimmages.
And I eventually pulled out of the draft, but a
few times he was in those five on fives he
looked like a completely different defender, and I thought, Oh,
is he gonna bring that back to Lexington for the
next year. And it sounds like that's gonna be a
(08:30):
big part of his game.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I like that when he's talking about Jaden Quaintans, of course, Uh, Norlander,
really you? Norlander pushed him in a way like I
wouldn't feel comfortable because I don't know Mark like that.
He clearly did so. He wouldn't let Mark evade questions
and he'd say, you didn't answer my question. Things I
would say to maybe Mark stoops he said to it,
(08:51):
maybe we'll get there one day, but he did it.
And with Jaden Quaintan's he said when's he gonna come back?
And he didn't want to answer. And then finally Mark said,
he will not play every game this year, Shannon, but
he certainly thought he would play a decent amount of games.
He made it sound like we're talking Christmas e which
is kind of what we thought. But it was interesting
(09:12):
to hear from me.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, I'm good with that.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I would rather have him in February and March than
I would in November December. So if he needs to
take a couple of months to rest up and get,
you know, his injury healed entirely, then I'm good with that.
He did look good at the Dirt Bowl, though, that dog,
that dog, I mean, he has a great hang time.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well, he said in terms of that this three weeks
are his most important three weeks of his whole process
of recovery, so he thought he.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Would know more in three weeks. He's the first one
back on campus. As they started making their way back
from vacation, I'm you though. That was the moment you
could tell nor Lander was comfortable because he just interrupted
Pope like, no, no, Gil, come on, give me a month.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, he was like this answer my question, son, Like
he was very very specific. Then I thought this was
interesting about Jayon quaints because I don't really know anything
about him beyond that he's really good at basketball, Pope says.
Because Pope's apparently pretty good at chess, like not great,
but pretty good at chess. He said. Jaden Quaintans is
up five to one against him on chess, he says. Now,
(10:10):
I don't play chess, but I do know enough about
chess to know you got to be pretty smart to
do it. So I kind of like drew a dude.
If he's up five to one on a grown man
on chess, we might actually he might be like a
really smart player.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Yeah, we know how bright. Pope is a probably highest
IQ in that building. But if you're star player that's
projected lottery pick just wants to hang out and be
nerds together, that's gonna be nothing but good things. I
like that he has that asude and just.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Break Apparently he's a much better chess player than a driver.
Though he can't pass his driver.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
He cannot pass and and Pope confirmed did not pass
the driver's test. Apparently it wasn't close because he ran
over a cone, which is not what you want to
do on your driver's tests. He's driving like that kid's
walking like sometimes you fall down, all right. Then he
was asked about schedule. He said, every single year he
wants Kentucky to have the hardest schedule in college basketball.
(11:02):
I can't tell you how much I love that Cauz
col played pretty hard schedules, but then wind about it
the whole time. I loved Pope saying this is Kentucky.
We should play the hardest schedule in college basketball every year.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
And last year it was ridiculously hard. It was the
third hardest in the country. And he was talking like
how disappointed he was that it was only the third hardest,
like second, third best and good enough for him. He
wants to be the best at everything, have the hardest schedule,
play the best teams.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
You're Kentucky basketball. You shouldn't be afraid of anybody. And
I think you need to be battle tested going into March.
And if you've already played the best teams in the
regular season, you're ready to.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Go for it.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, just to some other little personality things I thought
fans would think is interesting. They asked him about why
he was the number forty one, and for those of
you with religious backgrounds, he gave an answer that was
like two minutes all about the Bible. He was like, Noah,
the water flooded for forty days and then it was
(11:59):
the first day that he was able to, uh to
get off the flood. He said, uh uh, Moses that
when they left the or got the promise, say whatever
was the day forty one. Jesus was on earth for
forty days and then God called him back home on
day forty one. He said that for him forty one,
(12:19):
he like, he literally mentioned my mom would have loved it.
He mentioned like six things from the Bible, all of
which were on the forty first day, and that's why.
And then he said Kobe Brea, which not quite the
same as the Bible, but Kobe Brea was picked forty
first in the draft and his first win at Kentucky
was by forty one points. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
I still think Kyle probably just gave it to him here,
Man's I mean, you think all that and I think
he's had thirty years to put that together back.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Okay, there's still still think he rolled in.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Kyler was like, here you go, man, welcome, Here's that's
usually the way it works. I was.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
His biblic And you're suggesting none of that was the reason.
Great answer, nice and polished.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
I'm just I'm just thinking he's transferred in Patino's telling
to run kit like here's a joursey.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I think Mark Pope would. I think it was because
of Noah Moses.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Gave him two.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I don't know, have figured out something else. He also,
all right, one more answer. I loved. He was asked
about the portal. And you know, what do most coaches
say about the portal? What do they say when when
me ninked it's not good? Me me, me, me, me me.
What does Mark Pope say? He said, I love the portal.
He said, this is the best time to coach college
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basketball in history because it's unique. You don't know what's
gonna happen, and I feel like I have a chance
to beat everybody else at it because nobody knows what
to do. See that is what a creative person thinks.
There's like a market inefficiency. How do I beat it
and then take advantage of it. I love it. I've
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sat here and listened to coaches in all sports complaining
the whole thing's falling apart. He said, Look, are there
things I do differently? Sure, but this is the most
exciting time to coach. And I'd rather be coaching now
than any other time. That's what you want, Shannon, if
you're gonna have a coach for the future, they can't
sit there and wait for a time that the is gone.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
It's adapt or die, right.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
The portal's not going anywhere, So whether or not you
like it, you have to figure out how can you
get ahead of it. And Mark Pope, I think does
a better job than anybody at that and it helps
when you're at Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Let's be real now.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Last thing, and I actually, just as a human found
this interesting. He was asked, what is the worst part
of the job. What's the worst part of being the
coach at Kentucky. Now, I thought this was a really
interesting answer, he said. The worst part is kind of
also the best part. He said, but once you're the
coach at Kentucky, you essentially become public property. He was, like,
(14:44):
your life becomes public property. The state kind of owns
you in a way, and he said, that's just taking
some of me getting used to He's like, I don't
hate it, but it also makes it to where you
kind of are no longer yourself your public property. I
think that's a fascinating thing to say, and I get it.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Yeah, I mean he's very aware of the position holds
and all that comes with it. I think when he
first got here, even though he had been through it
as a player, you know, back before we had phones
taking picture everywhere, when there was that phase of every restaurant,
you know, it's getting reported where he sitting, I think
there was a moment where he's thinking, my goodness, what
is this job that I've gotten into.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
But the thing that I think he does so well,
maybe better than any coach, is how accessible he is
and approachable, you know what I mean. You can go
up and you can just talk to him and he
would he talk to you and take a picture of
whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
And the last thing, just for the record, he probably
wouldn't like me highlighting this, but when I said this
about a week ago, I got a lot of angry
messages from people. A lot of you are not you
all here. You are wonderful, but with some of the
people listening, got a little angry messages at me for
saying this. He quoted he said the exact same answer.
Matt Layne Landers said, if you could have dinner with
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anybody alive, who would you say, and he said, Barack Obama.
I'm just saying, don't get mad at me, he's steaking liberal.
He said that our coach also said Barack Obama. Dru
So I'm not the only one that would have said
that as an ant, so.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I wondered if that would stick with you if you
bring it up on the show today. It stood out
to me that doesn't like blue cheese? That was one
of my big taken.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
On Yeah, I love blue cheese. What's wrong with blue Chao?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Actually another one that stood out to me because you
don't hear a coach admit this. As nor Lander asked
him how much he reads, how many podcasts consumes if
he's on social media.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
He said all the time. He said, yeah, I'm on
it a lot.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
A lot of coaches, even though we know they are,
they pretend they're not to not hear it.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
He admitted, I thought that was really interesting. They he
asked for for They asked him, do you follow what
the media says in college basketball and local Kentucky media
what they said, and he said, I follow it all.
I appreciate he's being honest. All these coaches do it
and then say they don't. He acknowledged that he did,
(16:49):
and I thought that was cool. So I highly recommend
that interview. It's called like I on college basketball, but
it's seventy minutes with Pope, and I think it was
really good. We are here at the State Fair with
Kentucky Association, a health player in Louisville. It's a beautiful day,
great Kentucky crowd taking over the city of Louisville. I'm
gonna tell you what we almost had happened today. Actually
(17:09):
I'm not because it's gonna happen one day and I
want to surprise you. But we will take a break
and be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back.
It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live in Louisville at
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(17:32):
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do you get flu shots?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. It's like, you know,
it's like everything roulette will.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I feel like this is your time, it's right.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Here, and I could go krogering after that.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
That's right, it's right, that's perfect me. I get flu
shots and I like going to kroger. This is my
kind of party.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It's a great combination. Eight five nine two eight h
twenty two eighty seven. Great crowd here. I always like
to do this. Look and see what's at the fair.
Let's go throughout our throughout our show here today, I'll
read you things happening today at the State Fair. And
you could tell me if you want going on right now?
I hate I don't want you to leave this, but
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I would understand if you did. Going on right now?
Is the uh something to crow about? Contests right over there?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Contest?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I don't know, That's what I'm asking you. What is that?
What do you think the something to crow about? Contests?
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Like?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I don't. People don't. People don't own crows, right like
they just fly and show.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Up in your Harvey would tell you they would bring
you like jewelry and watches.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
And stuff they know they would steal from that. They
were thieves. Yeah, thieves are the animal kingdoms.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
What I think it is, I think.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
It's a collection of stolen goods to bring them in
here and you know, sell them to.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Get the heat. I was trying to think about what
something to crow about festival would be. Is that people
like impersonating crows are crowing about something? Okay, can you can?
Does anybody know how to do.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
A crow called?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
We got a poodle over here.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I got your poodle if you need a poot. I
don't know about a crow though.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I don't know if you have crow in you. Well,
i'd be if anybody goes to something to crow about contest,
let me know what it is. I'd be interested to.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Uh think you're out to eat some crow? When the
Reds don't make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
All right, well you brought this up. I wasn't gonna
do I you're welcome.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
The Braves won hot.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Hot a steaming baseball. I wasn't gonna talk about them
till the second hour because some people are like, hey,
you talk about the Reds too much and we don't
have that mean Reds fans. With that said We're only
a half game back now, yeah, welcome you, thank you
very much. We are a half game back the summer
of Elie. Now we play the best team in baseball
that's won twelve straight game, so things are against us.
(19:40):
But I'm gonna go ahead and tell you if we
don't get swept, even if we just win one game
this weekend, I'm good. If we win two on Monday,
I'm coming in like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Wait with the George Webberger in your hand. Yeah, that's right,
like you.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Know, pants off, like I don't oh wow, hr over
the Reds. But I mean, I'm I'm gonna be excited.
This is good. This is also kind of exciting because
they said, because I've been so excited, they've invited me
on September the fifth, and I am inviting you two
(20:18):
to come with me if you promise to wear Reds gear.
So here's this is what I'm gonna say. I'm not
gonna tell you what it is yet. Do you promise
to on September fifth wear Reds gear?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Let me check my calendar here.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I just need a yes or no. I'll wear my
Doug Flinch. Doug Flinch, you will wear Reds gear on
the September the fifth. Now you want to hear what
we're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
We we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
They've invited me to come on the field prior to
the game to watch batting practice, so we can stand
right there next to Ellie. And by the way, September
the fifth is not a little game. They play the
Mets that night. Who's who they're going against, Like, this
is a big game and they're gonna need our help.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Letting you get a couple of cuts in before the game.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Ellie's gonna need our tips here before the game. So
are you in?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Let's go? I'm all in on that. That sounds like
a lot of fun. Drew.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Last time you made me wear Reds gear to a
Reds game, I did more harm than good.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I don't know if you want me to do.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Have you do in the match game?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah? No, I just we wearing. I'll dust off the
Doug Flinn shirt they so, I think. So September fifth,
it's it's just a few days before I go to
South Africa. We are gonna go. It's it's the last
home game I'll get to go to all year.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
So that's part of I'm looking forward to it. It
sounds like a lot of fun, all right.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Eight fed nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven.
I was on Greg McElroy and Cole Kubrick right before
I came here. I was actually walking trying to find
this place while on the phone those guys. Of course,
nobody knows the SEC better than those two guys, two
of the biggest announcers that do SEC football. Cole Kublick said,
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what do you think Kentucky's gonna do this year? Record wise?
I said five and seven. He said, you're too pessimistic.
You guys are making a bowl this year.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
That made me feel good. And then Greg McElroy said,
I think Kentucky is the hardest team to predict in
all of college football this year. He said, if you
all win four, it wouldn't shot me. If you won eight,
it wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Shot well, that would shock me.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And he said all of the SEC, the coaches, et cetera,
have no idea what to think about Kentucky because they
think they could be really good or really bad, and
nobody is really sure. I thought both of those were
interesting comments. Yeah, especially the mystery part. We're all a
little down because how last year went. But they have
fifty new players.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Unless you're at every single practice, and even doing that,
it'd be hard to know how they're gonna look when
you finally get out on the field there in a
few weeks.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And Cole Kubrick is a big offensive line guys, because
he that's what he cares about. He said he's heard
Kentucky's offensive line is this was his words, old school,
good for Kentucky. So that made me feel better. I'm
not glad. We'll take a break. We'll be right back.
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eight oh twenty two eighty seven. I'm gonna go to the
phones one Merson rights, Matt. I heard you on McElroy
and Cole Kubick. Another thing I like that they said
(23:23):
is they think Kentucky's culture is back, and that they're
hearing people in the SEC say they think it'll be better.
I was glad to hear that too. You know, they
talked to coaches and people around staffs. I thought that
was good news.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
That's something that's been clear even in the media. Got
to go to two practices. Anytime you talk to a player,
it's not just some speak, some messaging that the program
wants those guys to get out. They're all holding each
other accountable. You can see it if you're around there
at all.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
One person rights. I'd like to know from each of you,
what would be more surprising to you Kentucky winning only
three games or Kentucky winning seven games, which would be
more shocking. We all we've all kind of predicted four, five,
or six, which is more shocking? Three or seven.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
For me, I think three would be more shocking because
I've already predicted six. So that just means, you see,
they just need one more, so I could see there
being a path to seven.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Three.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
I don't think there's any way it's that bad. Four maybe,
but not that bad.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, I'd be surprised if it's three. I think they're
gonna they're gonna take They'll steal one from somebody, so
I would say three seven. I mean, okay, you want
to make the case for seven. The case for seven
is you beat Vandy, you beat Auburn, and you win
two of the whole. Then you win two of you're
either Florida, Tennessee, Texas, Oh Miss at Louisville. Not crazy.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Yeah, And I think seven is more likely than three two.
They're gonna win an SEC game. I'm looking at ed Vandy.
I know it's there and they've won two out of three,
but the league's hopefully caught up to Pavia now they
know who he is. I think Tennessee might not be
all that they're hyped up to be. And then you
have Florida coming to Licen in November. I think any
of those games you could count them getting one of them.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
There's a clip that was going around on social media
of an Old Miss podcast saying that the Kentucky game
was the most important game of the lane Kiff and
tenure that if that, if they if he does not
win that game, a lot of fans will start to
be uh a.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Question to look back at last year.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
I mean, you know it could happen, It could happen
this year where it's at least a close game in
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
He got a chance, they got worse and you got better,
and you beat them there last year.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
So just a simple generic look at the games as
you should be in. It should be who's up first,
Mike is up first, Mike, go ahead, Mike.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Hey, guys, how are y'all this morning?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Doing good?
Speaker 6 (25:44):
A question for you if SAE Kentucky goes two and
ten this year and they decide to part ways too
with SEUs, how much you have an impact? Is the
allocation of money between football and basketball going to impact
their ability to hire an established coach?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah? I mean that's what's hard is because I appreciate
the call because Mitch is taking the position that we're
not gonna know how much of the REV share goes
to football, how much goes to basketball. I have a
fundamental disagreement with him on that, but he articulated his
position because we don't know that it's gonna be hard
to know when they go out and get a coach
(26:19):
whether or not the money had anything to do with it.
How you gonna even know because we don't even know
what the money.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Is, right, you know, it's hard to know. You know
it's gonna have a big impact. You just none of
like I said, none of us will know about it.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, so I don't know. He did, Uh what Pope thing?
He asked Pope whose roster costs more yours or Saint
or Rick Patino's. And Pope said something like, in anything
I'd do against Patino, I'm beating him. Love that, which
(26:49):
I thought was interesting because I mean, most people think
Patino's roster costs more than anyone in college basketball. I
know Pope was kind of kidding, but he was also
kind of insinuating our costs more than that.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Yeah, he's being playful with Patino. But he also answered
the question somewhat indirectly. But he did not say. You know,
you think if he if he didn't want the message
out there they spent a lot, he'd easily put that
on Rick, like, oh Rick spent the most by far,
he's Rick.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
But no, he Pope took that one interesting. You know,
if you're sitting there building a roster, there's an argument
that you want to put out there that we pay
the most. There's also an argument that if you put
out there we pay the most, you're gonna get asked
for the most, you know what I mean, So, like
(27:34):
it can kind of go either way, you know. There's
it's like when you're hiring someone. On the one hand,
if you have a really competitive salary, you want to say,
we have a really competitive salary, but you also don't
want to make it to where you could have gotten
somebody for one hundred thousand dollars and they charge you
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars because you said you
pay one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, you know what
(27:55):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Like, since I don't know what you want to do that,
I think it does help you get to the table though,
if you're one the top spenders, at least gets you
in the mixing on less than get you down to
the final stages so you can work it out on
the paperwork.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah. So I don't know who's up next? Judy is
up next? Judy? Go ahead, Judy?
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Hey uh, I just didn't listening to the seventy Minutes
podcast with Pope and I have not done my research yet,
but they said that Kentucky winning eight of the fifteen
top teams that was this year, but there were two
(28:33):
other teams that have done it.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
The past.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
I have not recessed that yet.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
And you all let me know what we don't talk about.
We don't talk about them, right like if we were
the one, if we were one of them, we'll just
act like the other people don't exist. There's no reason
to give those other teams a credit.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
Right, I love it? Yes, I agree?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Facts agree, Facts are optional.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
At right? That's right for you all.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Have a great time, all right, appreciate the call. What's
your favorite food item to eat at the fair? Uh?
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Usually the pork chop from the Kentucky Port Producers.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
That's right over there.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Yeah, that's usually what we do after the show. You
want to grab one after the show to their love.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
They now ever have seats, but I'd love to go
over there. What about you?
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Some gotta be deep fried, probably deep fried Oreos maybe
deep fried? Uh really anything deep fried, especially sweet.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
They've had it like okay.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
They've added a few new things, including like a hot
Cheetos corn dog where they roll the corn dog in
hot cheeto like crushed up hot cheetos.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
They roll the corn dog and hot cheetos.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I don't like corn dogs, but I do like hot cheetos,
so I could see how that would.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Be sound good to me? I think may have to
try out.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Corn dogs are kind of gross. Hey, Rick, did you
get your wine that I bought you last week? Or
did Shannon leave it in his car?
Speaker 8 (29:50):
No, Shannon personally handed it to me earlier this morning.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
But so when are you going to when are you
gonna treat yourself to the to the wine? It was?
It's it's a nice bottle, so I hope you do it.
It's something a special moment.
Speaker 8 (30:07):
Well, I'm gonna take it home and put it in
my wine fridge so it chills to the correct temperature,
and I'll promise.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
The correct temperature. What is the correct temperature?
Speaker 8 (30:16):
Well, it's a red wine, so for me, it's fifty
five degrees.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
That was It was only about ninety five degrees in
my car last night. I was still in there.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
So it's good for the grape. The grapes like it
to be hot and then really cold. So well, I
hope you enjoy it and when you when you when
you sip on it, Uh, Rick, I hope you think
about how much what a great job you do for
us when we're out on remote. Well, I really appreciate
that Matt. Of course. Sorry, who's next? Rick? Got Charlie?
(30:47):
Up next, Charlie? Go ahead, Charlie.
Speaker 9 (30:51):
Hey Matt, first time, long time?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Who are what's up?
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (30:56):
You were talking about the Little League World Series yesterday?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yes? And my predictions were good. My predictions that Japan
won twelve to nothing, South Carolina won thirteen to nothing.
South Dakota one, Like there's a pom. Well, the Little
League World Series actually issued a statement right after you
think I'm joking. The Little League World Series issued a
statement at like one pm saying please don't bet on
(31:22):
little League baseball. I was like, did you listen to
my draft kings.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Apps Land Security online?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
One?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Again?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah? But go ahead, sir.
Speaker 9 (31:30):
Well, back in nineteen seventy one, I was on the
first team from Kentucky to represent the state in the
Little League World Series?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Where where was that.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
Garden side Little League in Licenson?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Well, congratulations, did you all win the Little League World Series?
Speaker 9 (31:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
No, h.
Speaker 9 (31:51):
Lloyd mcclindon was a pitcher from Gary, Indiana, played for
the Red They signed him as a twelve year old
to be their catcher.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
And that's not true. Five foot eight and twelve year old,
hang on, just a second, sir, I said, sir, sir,
I might have to stop you. The red did not
sign twelve year old to be their catcher. First of all,
I think that violates.
Speaker 9 (32:11):
Child when he was when he was twelve years old,
that the Reds had signed him to be their catcher
he was five, they did. It's five homes did not.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
The Reds did not sign a twelve year old to
be their catcher, Sir. That can't be true if any
team would do it.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
Okay, okay, they had him, I don't know in their
farm league as a twelve year old.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Listen, I believe, Okay, okay, here's what I'd believe. I
believe the Reds saw him play.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, maybe had a scout there.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I do not believe they signed a twelve year old
to be their catcher. That's I am almost certain. That's
against the wall.
Speaker 9 (32:58):
Well, okay, we're twelve years old. That was what was
going around the camp that the Reds.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Had, just like you were told there was a ghost
in the cabin next to you. Now that I can believe, sir.
Speaker 9 (33:14):
But anyway, he was five for five. It's five home runs,
Todd Bubbow record for a little league player. He last
time I saw him, he was coaching the American League
All Star team.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Cool wy, well, thank you appreciate the congratulations on being
the first one you look up.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I can't find anything, just like a make a wish situation.
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
No. I mean I actually have heard of Lloyd McLean,
and I think he did end up playing in the majors.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Hey did with the Pirates in the Reds.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah. I think he was actually pretty good pitch, a
pretty good player. But I do not believe he was
signed as a twelve year old, although I do like
the confidence with which he said it. And this is
what's great about people. He said it with confidence, and
then I said, well that's what and then he was like,
well that's what people were saying at the time.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
I haven't know, have a hard time believing him with
five or five of five home.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Runs, Oh that's right here, hitting five homers and five
swings at age twelve.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Now that's cool. Yeah, so he five swings five home runs.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
What it says does not say he had a contract
at the age of twelve.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Pitched against the eighth did not say that. I do
love that he came in though, so strong, so DraftKings. No,
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here at the Kentucky State fairsy Sports Radio walking back.
It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live at State Fair.
You can get a flu shot and get a free
Kroger gift card for the first two hundred and fifty
folks here. You come on out. Uh, they're doing them
right here to the to the right of us. Hey
(35:44):
five nine, two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. Let's
talk quickly. Well, first of all, there was a man.
I'm not gonna point out which one he was, because
I don't know if he wants me to. But there
was a man who just came over here and showed
us a video that he visited Duke University, my law
school alma mater, and he walked to the front sign.
(36:05):
By the way, I've walked through that gate hundreds of times.
He walked through the front sign in his Kentucky gear
and Kentucky shorts and then proceeded to pee on the
Duke sign.
Speaker 10 (36:19):
Can't be doing that. He did it though he got
away with it in broad daylight. How long ago was that?
How long ago? That's what I was gonna say. Yeah,
I wonder if the guy could be.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
I don't know, like what the penalty is for that,
but it wouldn't be worth it for me.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Who could it be? Could it be the guy screaming
statue of limitations?
Speaker 5 (36:41):
I think in the video he's wearing a Tyree's Maxi jersey,
so it puts.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
It and keep that video. You're you're right next to
the Jefferson County Sheriff's office.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Don't don't airdrop that.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Make sure you keep that one to yourself. Now that
haircut wouldn't give it away. Let's quickly talk about yesterday
they announced BBN United.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
No great tournament, great round robin.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
No, no, no, this is the this is the fan thing. Oh,
it's the proof of their marketing. This is the fan thing.
So if you didn't see the fan, this is the
fan like experience, right, So you can you can join
this and you can become you know, you can join
these various things. So here's what they are. They have
Cats Club that's on one hundred dollars a year, Club
(37:30):
Blue is three hundred and twenty dollars a year, Select
is seven hundred and fifty dollars a year, Premiere is
fourteen hundred dollars a year, and Elite is twenty six
hundred dollars a year. You get various things. I'll read you.
Just let's say the seven hundred and fifty dollars one.
Let me tell you what you get? Which of these
(37:51):
would you want? Cheh, A welcome pack and two annual
merchandise boxes. No, all access behind the scenes content. Okay,
invite to open practice, that's cool.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
A virtual facility tour, No, I like that. They couldn't
bother let you.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
I can't actually go on.
Speaker 9 (38:14):
Here's what I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Understand about the virtual facility tour. You're already there, Yeah,
I can I just go to the practice.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Are they just gonna make you walk out like you're
already there? So if you're already at the facility, are
you telling me I can't see the facility, drew when
I'm already there, open up a couple of doors.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
You're right, Yeah, you're right there.
Speaker 9 (38:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
You get member voting. You get to vote vote on
what I don't know. You vote people out of the club. Yeah,
get out of BB and unite. I thought that was
kind of funny. You get to vote, but I have
no idea what you would vote on.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, I don't know about that one yet.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Uh, big Blue math. I like this. You get early
access to blue white game.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Tickets, early access.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
How much are those tickets? The tickets but not the
tickets you get access?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
If I pay that kind of money, I should get
the tickets.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I kind of agree with you. Yeah, you get to
be in the sweep steaks for Big Blue Madness tickets.
Now correct me if I'm wrong. We all isn't everyone
in the Blue Madness tickets?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I thought so. And then finally you get to be
part of expanded sweepstakes.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
So like two of the things that you mentioned, the
open practice and one other thing I would be interested
in behind the scenes stuff other than that, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
On the fourteen hundred dollars a year one, you also
get a virtual meat and greet with the players.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Oh, I get to zoom with no no nos basketball football.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
It's another tier up for basketball football players. That's like
probably a sweet This is basketball or football, not guarantee.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Oh I get to talk to like a bowler, someone
on the rifle.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Team, but via zoom. Oh wow, you have the facility
to it.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
How much I gotta pay for that?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
That's fourteen year now, if you get up to twenty
six hundred dollars a year, then you get a basketball.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Oh okay, I gotta pay twelve hundred more dollars just
so you know you're gonna get Reese Potters.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
You're not selling me on this very well.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
No, okay, so look I'm seeing this. I'm I'm giving
it a hard time. I think this is important, Drew,
but I also think, again, nobody asked me my opinion.
This pretty expensive stuff. I mean, the first tier is
one hundred dollars, but all you get at one hundred
dollars is quote exclusive perks, but it doesn't even say
(40:38):
what they are. And then everything I just read you
starts at three hundred and twenty dollars a year. I
mean that's really expensive. I think they're gonna have to
give a little bit more to people to me. Of
all those things they say, the open practice is kind
of the coolest one of all of them, to be honest,
(40:58):
it is.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
But well, there's there's two types people that are gonna
join the club. There are the people who just want
to give the money and okay, they live out of town,
Sure I get a T shirt. Whatever, here's a thousand bucks.
I just want us to be good that they'll get
them regardless. But that's a pretty underwhelming list of experiences
for the other people that are signing up to get
something in return.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I mean, call me crazy, but I would rather take
about three hundred and twenty dollars and buy a ticket
to a game than spend it on that.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I think you've got to I mean, I think fans
want to support it, but I sit here and look
at the fans here. I just this is I just
want Kentucky to not forget about the average fan. Like
this whole seven hundred and fifty dollars a year, that's nice,
(41:43):
but the heart of Big Blue Nation are people that
come to the State Fair to watch a random radio
show on a Friday, And I just worry we keep
moving farther and farther away from that to get to
this group of virtual meet and greets or virtual tours.
This is why Big Blue Nation is great. We just
(42:04):
can't get away from that, even though I know we
need to raise money, but I thought, for j with
the JMI, that's how we were getting all the money
to begin with. So I don't know, We'll take a break,
be right back this is Kentucky Sports Radio live at
the State Fair
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