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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, welcome everyone.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
It is Kentucky Sports Radio here at the KSR Golf
Scramble in Somerset, Kentucky at Woodson Band, the third of
our three golf scrambles. The largest group of crowd we've
ever had here, twenty seven teams playing on a chilly
morning in Uh. I feel like I do this every year.
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(00:53):
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Speaker 2 (00:54):
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Speaker 3 (00:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:08):
Smith Office.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
You call TJ. He'll make them pay. We've been here
when it was really hot. We've been here when it
was pouring, pouring rain, but we've never been here when
it was cold. And it's a little cold. It was
the ninth night in August with the record cold. I
guess now it's September. Uh, last night in Lexington.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, when I got up this morning and let my
dogs out, it was cold. That's why I put on
hoodie and pants. Well, boy, Drew's already over here freezing
with no pants on.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
It was wearing the tablecloth as pants right now.

Speaker 6 (01:36):
Well, I have some pants on there, just shorts that
didn't show wear nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
So we'll talk more about this later.

Speaker 7 (01:42):
Drew, and and and Billy and Mario and I had
a long night we were these these taping these podcasts
after the NFL games is something, especially when you think
you know the result and then it changes in the
middle of the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
But uh, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
But we got up this morning, Braid Rock and now
it's be a fun day here at the golf scrabble.
Will you and I Ryan will be here on eighteen? Yes,
Drew's plain you and I will be on eighteen. Greeting
people should be a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
You know, the the early Benyn nods on DraftKings. Has
Drew's team and Billy's team have the two favorites?

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Like me, Drews team's got Aaron Fleer tired of losing.
Uh So, yeah, juh j T will say j T whitworth?
JT posting was.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
That because I was singing that seven cash now uh
j T.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Poston's caddy is here and he's really good. I think
they're the early favorites.

Speaker 8 (02:32):
Yeah, and he's got Judge Gabe. But Billy loaded up.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
He's got Chase, our boy from Lindsay Wilson National Championship
Golf team sitting.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
We're right, Billy did load up. He was already drinking
Mo Moses this morning, so there's no chance he's going.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
To okay, So Drew's team now becomes the favorite if
Billy's already been drinking this morning.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
You mentioned Chase Chase birthday, Happy birthday, Kansar's first Nile
athlete who never got me the paperwork, So, uh, you
know what, that's okay, You're it.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Didn't work out, but maybe next year five twenty two
eighty seven. A lot of stuff to talk to you about.
But of course we got to start uko Miss Saturday.
I said in the pregame show, you know what, if
we play a one score game and we're competitive throughout,
I'm gonna come away encouraged. And we played a one

(03:18):
score game where we were competitive throughout, and then somehow
I came away not encouraged.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
And I'm not sure why that was. Well, I know why.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
That was a lot of the same old sort of
issues that have played Kentucky football for a while hit
us right there. We had the issue of poor clock management,
a disaster at the end of the first half that
cost three points and honestly maybe cost a chance to
win the game, because you would have played the fourth
quarter differently if you had had those three points. So

(03:48):
let's go the good, real quick, good defense played really well.
Gave up thirty points, but I still think that it's
extremely strong performance by the defense you had him in
the game. They I thought they got the stops when
they needed to at the end of the game. They
stopped them twice with the chance to get the ball back,
and so I think the defense played well two interceptions.

(04:10):
I would say a to a minus for the defense.
Running game I thought was very solid, probably a minus
for the running game. Offensive line blocked pretty well on
the running game. I was generally very pleased with that
passing game anemic. I'm gonna go C minus. A couple
big plays, but otherwise worse than probably we had hoped

(04:33):
going into it. And then you know, when it comes
to coaching and management, I have to say, I'm going
like d it was the end of the first half,
one of the worst. I mean, we've had a lot
of bad into first halfs in terms of the way
clocks have managed, but this was the worst one that
I can remember.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
It all leads to a seven point loss.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Ryan, I went over at pretty detail on the postgame show,
and I made the comment that basically, if you wanted
to say, come up the frustrating parts of the Stoops era,
that game summed it up about as well everything we've
ever complained about they did in that game. What was
your take on it? We haven't heard from you since
the game.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
I really feel like I kind of agree with you.
I was kind of encouraged by the running game. They
ran the ball good the second straight game, and this
time against an SEC defense. Our offensive line I thought
looked pretty good, so that that was encouraging.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Defense.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
You're right, the good not great. They missed a couple tackles,
they gave up some big plays.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Oh that's the one thing.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
They were not great at open field tap and they
beat a couple of times on that.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
But how many times do we hear Freddy Magger talk
about the middle eight, the end, the four minutes, the
end the first half, and the four minutes to start
the second half, And this is just a recurring problem
that comes back and back again. And you're right, everything
that people have complained about Mark Stoops and his coaching
reared its ugly head at the end of the first half.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
They have no philosophy on whether to kick or not kick,
and they have no urgency at the end of the
first half. It's clear to me that at the end
of the first half, when they're in a quick drill,
that they are figuring it out as they go as
it goes, and they don't know what they're gonna do.
Drew at any moment It's complete anarchy. You have a
seventh year quarterback who, for all his weaknesses, probably at

(06:09):
least can understand the play, and yet he can't.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
He can't.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
It seems like he doesn't even get it in in time.
The receivers are all lined up in the wrong places.
Just a disaster all the way around.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
I mean, they were openly being mocked on ABC by
the announcers Sean McDonough. You know, Kentucky was supposed to receive.
He said they should defer in the second half, just
because he didn't want to see the offense.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
That's my guy.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
That was brutal. He crushed. It was like it was
you announcing the game.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Well, I think that's probably fair to say that, But look,
I know there was a lot of frustrations, but I
look at it like this, nobody gave Kentucky a chance
going into this game. That you had all these hiccups
throughout the game, quarterback didn't play well, and you still
gave the number twenty team in the country all they wanted.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
So, mister negativity, whoa, WHOA?

Speaker 5 (06:58):
What happened? Mario? What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Whatever? That is it? All right?

Speaker 5 (07:03):
I felt like I was very positive in the off season,
not negative, and I actually felt encouraged after that game,
even though they lost.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Where did Billy go? All? That usually fixed it all
times for Billy to disappear.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
So I wasn't negative about it.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
No, I'm saying you are normally negative and now you're
actually positive about this again.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
Everybody everybody going in gave them no chance.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
I'll be negative for him.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Everybody else's negative.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
Looked like the offense had never met each other. In
the first half. Not only did not know the playbook,
they couldn't make substitutions. They were lining up on the
wrong side of the play For Week two, first SEC game,
you're on national TV. To their credit, they cleaned up
the little second half a little bit in the second half,
but the end of that first half was embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
It really was. It was.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
It wasn't just I don't know what they should comment.
It was little things like my goodness and uh maclari's
breath like wow, and then at one point he straight
up said, this is what gets you fired when you're
on the hot seeded and that that's what wrapped up.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
That's why it was so embarrassed.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Kentucky by getting up ten to nothing in the first half.
I mean I I sometimes will watch Twitter to see
what people are saying. The college football world turned our
game on. Okay, the college football world for a little
while was saying, well, it looks like Stoops may have
Lane Kiffin again.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Right.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
There were memes about lane Kiffin sort of waking up
like a Scooby Doo thing and seeing Stoop's face. So
the college football world turned our game on. Right, and
then they see Ole miss come back and they see
us have the ball, and I genuinely like you can
feel this when you're on social media. I think all
of college football was watching at the end of the
first half. Now they switched after it to Florida and

(08:47):
my in South Florida, et cetera. But in that moment,
I think all of college football was watching our game.
And then we get that's when we're embarrassed, and a
lot of people that will be the only thing they
know about UK football this year is gonna be into
that first half because we had the attention of the
college football world for like an hour and that was
what we did.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah, the two interception by ty Bryant led to ten points.
You're up ten to nothing against don't miss the team
that you upset last year. I think everybody does tune
into that game. But then you saw Kentucky football at
its worse that second quarter. They especially the end of
the second quarter, poor clock management, poor decision making, poor
offensive execution.

Speaker 8 (09:23):
Everything.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Couldn't get the guys like Dreersey, couldn't even get the
guys to line up right on their play.

Speaker 8 (09:27):
Everything about it was embarrassing.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
They were in field goal range and ended up on
the other side of the fifties. That's not that has happened.
Should have ever run a play? Even the announcers were
like to do.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Times that we're getting to the point at the end
of the first half where should we should just take
a knee and then get kick it.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
There were a couple of times though, where I actually
liked going forward on fourth down. I think that was
a lot of criticism, but I like her. You gotta
be acressed with in that situation.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
I think the criticism of him at the end for
going for fourth down, I think misunderstands math. When you're
down seven and you go for it, what does field
goal do? You're still down four and you haven't stopped them.
Now we ended up stopping them, but up until that
point we hadn't stopped them in two and a half quarters.
You gotta go for it, and then when you don't
get it the first time, you gotta go it for

(10:12):
it the second time, because now it's the same situation,
just with the last clock. After the game, Stoop says,
in hindsight, he wished he would kick no.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Like, have your philosophy. Oh with it.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Your philosophy is not always gonna work, but you have
to have a philosophy. And part of my frustration is
they have no philosophy. I mean, just to go to
the end of the first half or a second.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Let's be real.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
They weren't trying to score. They just got lucky and
he broke on. But like it, they were handing the
ball off. They were not trying to score it right right,
So he breaks one, they decide to go for it.
They at that moment, I think no one had planned
that we might be in field goal range, and.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
That's why they were lost.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
They had gone from assuming we're not gonna make it
to oh no, what now?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
And everybody's running.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Around the end of the second half, the game is
basically over, but we're down ten. It is fundamental football
in twenty twenty five that in that scenario, once you
get in field goal range, you kick.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
That's just what you did.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
No reason to waste time and then potentially have to
kick anyway, Just kick. You're gonna need an on sidekick
when we get into that range. It is clear if
lane Kiffin doesn't call time out, we weren't gonna kick.
And by the way, old miss would have covered. Lane
Kiffin bailed us out, called time out and then stoops goes,
oh eah, let's kick.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
But they were not gonna kick.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
And that's also that means they had no philosophy in
that moment of what to do.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I agree with you about the especially the first fourth
down call. If he had not gone for it, I
think he would have got boot out of the stadium.
You know, people have kind of been frustrated. I think
he had to go, But it was also the right decision.
It was the right decision matter if they didn't get it.
But you know what, if we kick a field goal
down four and they go score a touchdown Drew at that.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Point, the game's over. Anyway, we had to go for it.

Speaker 6 (12:02):
Yeah, I was actually a team kick on the first
one though, because at that point, I mean, you can
still give up three. If you can't stop on miss,
you're still in it. I think I was like twelve.
If it was fourth and five and not fourth and nine,
I probably would have gone for it. It was a
little bit too long, regardless, and not to make excuses
because they looked terrible before that though. That was a
pass interference, and I think Stoops's decision making there was

(12:23):
running a little hot because he was probably chewing out
that ref to making that fourth over.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
It was definitely made an impact.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
But but I will say even though they didn't get it,
going for it still work because we got the ball
on a three.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
And out, we got it right back.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
So it actually I think there's a plenty of criticism
to go around for Stoops.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I actually don't mind the kick.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
I was already seeing red before that moment in the game.
From the first half.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
It looks like Cutter Bowls gonna win. It's gonna end
up starting at the end of the game. Tom Leech goes,
you know, Mark, you usually say when people get hurt, Uh,
doesn't they don't lose their spot.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
He was like, yeah, but I will.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
See Cutter because I want to see Cutter, so it
was a matter of factly I want to see Cutter.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Is that the right decision?

Speaker 4 (13:02):
I think it is the right decision right now, especially guy,
I just think you know, I've been pro Cutter.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I think there's just more upside with him.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
I think he's a guy that can maybe do what
you can be done this year and built for the
next couple of years. I really think you might as
well go for it. We got a small sample size
on him last year at Texas and they threw him
in there did fairly well. Now, he didn't do all
that great against Louisville and he's first start, but he
did look good against Texas, So.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
I listen, I think you do it, Shannon, because I
think we've seen through two games. I don't think we
lost that game because of kow Zada, but there's a
ceiling with him, so we might as well try it.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
With the other game.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Exact Calzada is not I don't I'm not saying he's terrible,
but he's not going to take you to the Promised Land,
so we might as well.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
Try it with this injury may have settled your quarterback
battle that we were just talking about a couple of
weeks ago. You can't put kal Zada out there if
he's injured, regardless, so why not put Cutter out there.
It's against the team that you feel.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Like they lost it home to Long Island, right, which
I didn't know how to football team, And this is a.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
Good way to enter Cutter into this season. Against the
team like Eastern Michigan.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Great.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
Yeah, Cutter oddly looked more comfortable than the seven year player.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
That McElroy said that.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
I think to Rodriguez, he overthrew him a little bit,
but he stepped into it. Calzada seems to backpedal and
and drop back even when he doesn't really need to.
He throws off his back foot. He doesn't look comfortable
out there, and it's weird because he's played seven years.
He beat Alabama, but two of the worst games of
his career are at Kentucky, so partly wonders like, what
have we done to him? I know he wasn't gonna

(14:29):
come in and be some world beater, but he does
look worse than he's ever.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Looked like Lamar Jackson without Lamar Jackson skills, Like he's
running around like Lamar, but he's not quite able to. UH.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
I do feel like the best pass play of the
whole game is when Cutter stepped up into the pocket
and threw a dot to Harley Gilmour.

Speaker 8 (14:47):
That showed me, right there, this is our guy.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
We need to go with a f I'm nine twenty
two eighty seven.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
What did you think of the game?

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Uh? Text machine is seven seven two five two five four.
There's a lot to talk about about the game on
SAT today, including the decision making. Where do they go
from here? Where's the fan base? Uh, there's a lot happening.
We'll take a break. We're here in Summerset at Woods
have been This is Kentucky Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Welcome back.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live at the KSR
Golf Scramble.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Look at Ryan getting the crowd cheer. You are a cheerleader.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
We've got to pick things up here. It was kind
of a depressing weekend after Kentucky loss. We've got to
pick it up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
UH.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Thanks the City of Summrset Lake Cumberland Tourism, Summrset Tourism
in the Virginia for having us UH, for sponsoring this
KSR Golf scram I'm excited. This is gonna this is
the biggest summer set one we've had, Gonna be a
lot of fun people out on the course, and it's
this will be my I guess I'll be in Lebanon
tomorrow for the UH for the Cornbread Hemp remote, but

(15:48):
this will be my last time seeing the public before
I'm in South Africa.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
So I'll be on the.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Show all week, but I have to go to New
York and then be in South Africa until October first.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
So you leave your trip for South Africa.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Friday for New York tomorrow. I leave for South Africa Friday.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
So I guess you've got everything packed and ready to go.
Don't have one thing packed.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Still trying to figure out what shoes to wear pants.
They threw me off when they said you need boots
because I hadn't thought about that as an option.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
The boots I have not the kind that'll work. I think.
Out on the bush we have Jordan Tway. So I
don't know. I don't know what we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
I'm gonna figure all that out tonight during UH during
Monday Night Football. One thing before we get back to
the game, everybody, do not fall for the Tom Hart
computer scam.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
I already bought him MacBook Pro.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
So Tom Hart got hacked? What Tom Hart got hacked
on his Twitter account? And he keeps trying to sell
MacBook pros and I think some of our fans are
getting scammed pro, which I feel bad for him. Don't
listen anytime anybody's trying to sell you a MacBook Pro
from their Twitter account, they've probably been hacked.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Drew.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
I've seen some d ms of people who've d m
Tom tom Hart, but it's not Tom Hart, and there
it's not good and I and Tom's trying to fix it,
but he can't get you know, Twitter is not exactly
working like a you know, like like a machine right now,
so he's not able to get in there.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
I kind of feel bad for people.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
He also it takes a lot of a little bit
of being gullible to buy a six hundred dollars MacBook
from Tom Hart.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
But I hate that it is for a good calls though.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
Saint Judy for replied they did not reply.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
Even more legitimate.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
So just for the record, no one that you know
is going to try to sell you.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
A MacBook Pro on their Twitter account.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
So like, if that ever happens with one of us,
we got hacked, like it just it's not happening, nor
used to be.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
You could fix that quickly, but apparently not.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
What happened to me a couple of years ago, and
it was it was not easy trying to get it back.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
It was not easy.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
It was not so well unfollow to right now looking
on those things.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
He tried to tell me, these beautiful women that reach
out to me just want to talk, are not real.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
You've been, you've been.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
You've had a lot of people say they saw you
at the grocery store and all that. That's not No,
that's not real. A FI nine two eight oh twenty
two eighty seven. So yeah, the announcers were kind of
mocking us after the game. So postgame show calls generally
very negative. One guy got very angry, which we're gonna
we'll maybe play that clip a little later. But one

(18:27):
guy got very angry, said who made you the U
the spokesman for UK's football, And he accused Tom Leach
and as he called him, Jeff Packery of being too negative.
And I thought, man, if you think Tom Leech is
too negative, Shannon, that's that's a high boy.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
Probably don't want to listen to the Matt Jones postgame
show if you think that Tom Leech is too critical,
because he is very fair.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
So where do we go from here? Play Eastern Michigan
this week? First of all, will people come to this game?

Speaker 4 (18:55):
I mean, really, we had a really good crowd against
Ole miss I don't think it'll be that big, even
though it should. It's gonna be a win, and it's
a home win in September. The weather probably be good.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
I mean, they're bad, like this is a chance to work.
This is the This is not even like Toledo. Oh,
you should beat them. Toledo, by the way, beat Western
by like forty yesterday. This Eastern Michigan's bad. They lost
to a division but essentially a Division two Long Island
at home, so we should crush them absolutely.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
I don't know that you can do much in this
game to change any opinions though that they're so bad.
One thing you might want to do is line up
and get your plays in and not burned three time
outs to avoid delay of games. If they do that
against Eastern Michigan, FI, we're gonna be upset. But even
if they were a win by fifty. I think there's
still gonna be a lot of all right, cool, now
on to South Carolina, because Eastern Michigan's is so bad.

(19:41):
I don't know if you can form any real narratives
out of what they do.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
We thought, you know, if you just keep it close,
it's the way you can the way unraveled.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
It's because I think this is what gets me about
why it frustrated me.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
It's not that we lost and it's it was close.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
It's that this was a game that you could have
won by doing the basics. Okay, it's not a game
where they just outplayed us. If you do the basics,
you can win that game. If you kick a field
goal at the end of the first half. Then in
the fourth quarter when it was that kicker, go you go,

(20:20):
and you're down one, you get the three and out.
Now you take the lead on that field goal, and
it's a different game. Lane's feeling pressure, the crowd gets
into it, et cetera. It's it's the basics, Ryan, That's
what's frustrating to me.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
It is it's something like we said, we keep seeing
year after year after year.

Speaker 8 (20:36):
I mean, it's another sec home loss.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
I mean when are we gonna finally win an SEC
home game?

Speaker 4 (20:42):
This one was there for the taking, especially if you
see Florida got beat wil didn't looked that good Friday night.
I mean, maybe there's a couple more winnable games out
there and you let one slip through your fingers.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Let's the numbers are terrible two and eleven in your
last thirteen SEC home games two and eleven, But maybe
what's even worse zero to eight in your last home openers.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
True, we've lost eight straight SEC home openers. That's hard.
How do you sustain a crowd when it's.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
Like worse than that, we've lost eight straight SEC games
at home. People are eventually gonna stop, say I can't
keep driving from Paducah and committing a whole day if
we can't win a home game. It was great beating
Ole miss last year on the road, but at some
point you got to win in your stadium. You're never
gonna have a good season if you're losing home games.
When Kentucky was playing well, it's because they were beating
South Carolina as the missouris, and they're winning at home,

(21:30):
and that's what it takes to win. When you're losing
Week two ole miss even though they're twentieth, one of
the more winnable games you're gonna have in the conference,
and it's the eighth straight time people have seen a
loss in there.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
You have to do a breaking point. You have to
do Missouri beat Kansas at home. Mississippi State beat Arizona
State at home. You have to win those games at home.
I would say Arizona State's probably better than Mississippi State.
Kansas might be equal to or better than Missouri, but
they win those games at home. And so we have
to find a way to win those games at home.

(22:03):
And reality is we're not.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
It wasn't good. Listen. The fans did their part.

Speaker 8 (22:09):
They did Yeah, they did their well.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
I saw some people online criticizing that when we got
the ball with four and a half minutes to go,
a lot of the stadium was empty, and I get it,
but you know what the fans did.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
The fans do their part. They showed up. You know,
our bar was packed. I heard the tailgate was was
was packed. You know, the.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
University and the program has to give back by performance
and by creating.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
I mean, go, look, have you seen the video of
Auburn's pregame entrance.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Then go look at the Auburn pregame entrance from their game,
and I don't even know who where they were playing,
like somebody's terrible.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
And then look at the difference in.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
What we get. I think that's part of the issue.
We're gonna take your calls. A from nine twenty two
eighty seven here at Woodson Ben in Somerset's KSR quarterback
tell you sports radio here live in Summerset at the
KSR golf scramble. It is a beautiful day, little chili,
but it'll be good when we start text machine. One

(23:07):
person writes Matt, who's most at fault Stoops, Bush Hamden.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Or kl Zada?

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Well, a little bit of all of them, I have
to say. I mean, ultimately everything's on Stoops because he's
the head coach. But I would put if you were
to ask me which one is most frustrating to me,
it's gonna be Bush Hamden. I mean, I think Calzada.
I don't know if he's good. I don't know if
he's good, but I don't think he's awful awful, But
like you're not putting him in the position our receivers
aren't good. They clearly I think it's fair to say Drew,

(23:35):
they clearly missed in the portal in terms of getting
a difference maker. Now these dudes may be okay, but
they don't have a difference maker.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Is that fair? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (23:44):
Law was never gonna be a good route runner, and
I'm glad they got to what he didn't get him
the ball. That's kind of what they're gonna do with him.
He's never gonna be wandell out there, just always getting open.
But the other somebody has to get some space. Macklin,
that's a guy we thought would have better numbers through
two weeks.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
It might be a number two or three rereceiver that
you're having to play as your number one, and that's
hurting him. But Bush Hampdon, I mean, I'm not I'm
not out, but I'm close to out.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I just I don't I don't see it.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
You know when they show that camera into booth, he
always looks frantic to me, like throughout the thing, he
always looks like he's kind of scrambling trying to and
I don't know, we'll see. I mean, I hope to
be proven wrong. Let me just give you something to
watch for. Tulane plays Old Miss. Is it this week
or next week? It's one of these next two weeks.

(24:32):
If they win that game at a team we've lost to,
and they you know, just you go, hear a lot
our fans. You think our fans are restless. Now go
let Tulane go win an Old Miss. We'll see though,
now maybe they'll get maybe they'll get crushed.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
John Summer narrative takes another goes to another level if
that happens.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, who's up first? Trevor is up first?

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Is that Scotty Scheffler over there in the back? Is
that Scott over there?

Speaker 5 (24:58):
And I don't know, he's not wearing orange out recodizing ahead,
he's not in cuffs.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
That's right, go ahead.

Speaker 9 (25:07):
And at this very moment, I don't know which one
I trust the least, between Kentucky football game management, London
city small town politics, or Billy's scorecard this evenon after
a morning tool Mimosa.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, that's true. Billy might cheat.

Speaker 9 (25:25):
And my question today that the term apathy, you kind
of explained accurately how the fan base is feeling now
in hindsight, do you think the quietness and the silence
during the off season, not getting people pumped up, not
getting their terribody.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
It was a terrible idy. Yes, of course it did,
but that was eminently predictable. If the fan base grows apathetic,
the number one reason will be losing, But the number
two reason will be because they didn't do anything to
connect the fan base to this. That was completely predictable.
You know, I used to say, and I appreciate the call.

(26:06):
If you're winning at a big level, ride it doesn't
matter what your coach does. He they can walk around
naked with their pants on their head, It does not matter.
They can go Look at Bobby Knight. He was a
jerk for thirty years and it didn't matter because he
was winning. But the moment you start losing, the way
you market the team and the way you act matters.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
W Do you agree with that?

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Tobby Smith probably got two more years at Kentucky because
he was such a good guy.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Would you agree with that?

Speaker 8 (26:37):
Yes, I do agree with that.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
And Billy Gillespie probably got one last year because he.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Was such a disaster off the court. Do you agree
with that?

Speaker 3 (26:45):
You agree with that? He so marketing is a huge thing.
They didn't do anything this, we don't know this team.
There are still players that I hear their names and
I go to know that person was on the team.
So yeah, I mean, part of the reason shiaj. Pete
connected with people so much is that people were just

(27:05):
desperate to know anyone on the team Shannon. So then
when the team struggles and you don't feel that connection
with them, it just makes it all the more easy
to be apathetic. It's like playing a video game with
generic team names that the video game creates.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Why are you gonna care you don't know who they are.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
We only knew just a few people on the team
until the media day when we had Shiah's peak come
on and all of a sudden he was our favorite.
But yeah, I don't really understand that strategy of not
reaching out to your fan base and trying to connect
with him in the off season.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
I can't I can't remember who it was, Drew, But
one of the tight ends made a good play and
McElroy was like, Oh, the coaches were telling us about
this guy and I had never heard his name before.
And I was thinking, the coaches are telling you all
about this guy and I've never heard of this person.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Like we should know who they are. Might have been Boyer.
He got the Boyer that was it was.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
Yeah, we all we spent six months talking about, like,
you know, poking the UK football Twitter cot with a stick,
like are you on? Is anyone there? I go back
to that joke of a spring game. We've got four
people there for KSR covering it. We do a postgame video.
UK didn't send out a tweet. I mean like their
social media was just nothing for their spring game. And
the spring game is there and fan Day is there

(28:15):
to sell tickets, to keep interest in that time of
the year, to get to let people know the team
as early as possible, and it's almost like they didn't
want anyone to know that.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
And it would be nice for us, It would be
nice for our fan base to like really be pulling
for cal Zona.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
But we don't know anything about him either. The only
thing we know about him is he's old.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
We don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
I mean people don't know anything about him really. So yes, apathy,
which is the worst thing that can come to a program,
and which if we're not careful, we'll start in October.
Some of that is gonna be their own fault. If
that ends up happening, who's next. Joe is up next, Joe,
go ahead, Joe, he met.

Speaker 10 (28:55):
There's a lot of frustrating things with stoops, organizational stuff.
You've talked about it one hundred times. You could have
talked about it a thousand times. So I don't want
to talk about not realizing that you should kick the
field goal so that you have enough time to hit
the extra point or to try the on side, and
that he know that, like you said, but then also

(29:17):
he second guesses his own right decision afterwards. I don't
want to talk about those things. But when you're at
the forty and you have a kicker that can kick six,
kick sixty, and you have no more timeouts, the thing
that drives me nuts, and I just rewatched it to
make sure it was real, is you need to run
a dummy play. Just snap it to the quarterback. He

(29:39):
kills four seconds, throws it out a bounce. Players aren't
lined up for a play you don't want to run.
It's not like this is an important play and players
don't know where to go. This is a play that
isn't even a play. It's just a hey, don't hold
anyone for ten yards to the quarterback run a seven out.

(29:59):
He he launches it over a guy's hands so we
don't have to kick off, and then our sixty yard
kicker can try a fifty eight yarder and guys don't
know where to go for a play that needs nothing.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
God, he's right, You're exactly right. Appreciate the call. You're complete,
You are totally right about that. It is you know
they said at the end, well the headset went out. Okay, fine,
but you have to listen is details you have to practice.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
In and what happens when the headset goes out.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Like that's part of being prepared is you think about
every situation. And I've seen enough games where players are
holding their helmet where the headset goes out. We just
had the speakers go out, So what did we do?
We adjusted, We stood up. My voice is getting louder.
That's what you do when the speakers go out. It's
like when it was the moment the headsets went out,

(30:54):
it was like everybody it was at.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
The scene in dumb and dumber. Our pets. Heads are
falling off, like nobody knows what to do.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
You have to have a fallback plan for any scenario
or situation that could happen in a game, something to
default back to, and clearly they didn't know what to do.
Everybody was scrambling around. It was chaos out there. And
then you have to burn two timeouts in the first
quarter because your guys aren't ready.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
That's another one.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
They call a time out on fourth down and then
come back out and punt.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
What is that? What is that? What do you call
time if you're gonna punch the penalty you're doing?

Speaker 4 (31:30):
And I think everybody knew at that time when they
called time out or but we all knew they were
gonna come out and punt.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
They weren't.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
They weren't gonna go for it. Actually it was the opposite.
I was like, well, the only reason you would call
time out here is to go for it, because you
would just take the penalty. But no, they punted anywhere.

Speaker 8 (31:44):
Well, didn't want the defense gets set, We're just gonna punt.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Unbelievable. Who's next tray is up? Next tray? Go ahead, tray?

Speaker 11 (31:52):
Hey, Matt, it's uh. I agreed with your every single
post game comment you had except for one thing, and
that was the old miss was the better team. I
was there and it felt like we we were better
at every position except for quarterback, and that wasn't even
that big of a discrepancy for that game in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
And well, I would say let me, I'll let you finish,
but I would I agree with you for the first.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I don't know, twenty minutes.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
I did think in the second half we were kind
of holding on for dear life a little bit. Remember,
I mean we we did get the ball inside their
thirty on two turnovers. That's pretty good break for us.
So that's why I said that.

Speaker 11 (32:35):
Okay, I agree, I just maybe basically on a talent
for talent level, this isn't the normal Ole Miss team
that stood out talently to me.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
That's true, that's true.

Speaker 11 (32:44):
But to me, the clear distinction was coaching and for
Lane Kiffin and Mark Stoops both to be making nine
million a year to have that big of a distinction
and game planning players being ready. At what point does
this just become unacceptable to where we're paying a guy
nine million dollars a year, top ten paid coach in

(33:05):
college football and we continue to.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
See these mistakes. It's a fair question do.

Speaker 11 (33:10):
We just at what point of fans do we just,
you know, just give up on that.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Well, we're gonna see how it goes this year. But
it's a fair question. I appreciate the call when it comes.
I think when you're talking about everything ride that leads
up to game day, recruiting, preparation, motivation, I think Stoops
and Kiffin are in the same ballpark, but when it
comes to game day management.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
They're not in the same league. They're just not.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
I mean, and I'm i'd be I'm comfortable saying they're
just not. Kiffin's a lot better when it comes to
figuring out what to do during the course of sixty minutes.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
You know, we listened I gotta do my show prep
on the way down here to listen to Tom Lead
Show and Van Hiles was on, and he talked about
how Hampden seems to want to just make the perfect
play instead of just making the play and get called.
Kind of always looks at that perfect play and it's
throwing him off.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
I bet we just make a play, make.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
For the perfect play, don't run that cutter bowlie fit
draw whatever the hell that was third nine. I don't
think it could be worse than the safety last week.
But he found a.

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Speaker 2 (34:50):
It's ks R. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio
eight FI.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven n
text machine seven seven two seven seven four five two
five four. You know summer Set. Pulaski County has a
lot of experiences. They got raffed up, which is always
apparently quite a show. I still have not found a
way down here. One of these times, I gotta do it.
They have the Classic Car Show. Wasn't that where the
thing took off and jumped in the air? The General Lee,

(35:17):
I think that was there, foodstock, the Master Musicians Festival,
that's a lot I didn't realize I think about it.
That's a lot for a town of the Summerset size.
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Speaker 2 (35:32):
You gotta give Summerset credit. Those are huge events. The
Masters Musician Festival is a big thing.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Raffed up is like, I hear just debauchery, but I've
never I haven't been, although I would.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
I've got to do that before I pass from this earth.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
And then you got the car thing, which of course
led to national news this year.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Yeah, the General Lee jumping the fountain and made national headlines.
It was a huge, huge tourism event for Summer Set
that ended up being a huge success.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Before I go the phones, two things quickly. First of all,
we went to the reds Uh. We went to Red's
batting practice Friday. People find something in life. That will
make you as happy as watching Red's batting practice. Did
Ryan Limit He stood there like a little child for
an hour. He did not move. Mario did he move?
He did not move for an hour. He just sat

(36:20):
there watching it. Looked like he was eight years old.
It looked like he was eight years old, just watching
batting practice. And you could see Ryan thinking, I could
do it. I could do it, Shannon, I could his
opposite way, I could do it.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
You. When is the last time you've enjoyed been happier
than that.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
I loved every second of that. I was like a
little kid just watching it all. TJ Freedom, Watch what
he does. Oh, here's Matt mccleain. Watch what he does.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
He believes he's TJ Freedom. I do it.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
Well, you could have done any worse than Ellie, because
I think they're looking attice.

Speaker 8 (36:48):
He did.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
He was the only player that didn't come out.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
Why didn't swing the bat?

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Why didn't swing the bat?

Speaker 3 (36:54):
But you, you were like, that's the happiest I've seen
you in a long time.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Those guys still make me start major League baseball players,
and I love being that close to it, to the action.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
You every one of them. You really pitch. He loved
it seriously, Drew. You should have seen him. I don't
know that I've ever seen him that kind of star
struck around, you know, and they're just hitting the opposite way,
and they'd hit a home run and he'd go watch
that like he just he loved it so much.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
You got things you're looking for. You look at a technique.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Every time they come up like they did one rotation,
they're all hit the other way. Next rotation they're all
dry and hit a home run. But I watching the
infield they're fill the way they feel ground balls and
turn double plays, and watch the outfield drills and stuff.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I was taking it all in.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
I will say one thing I thought was cool shit it. Yeah,
there was this old man. He's probably what'd you say, sixties.
He's hitting the ground balls. I'n go fun, go bat.
He's sitting there and just hitting ground balls. And I
watched him for twenty to thirty minutes. He just every
five seconds, throw it up, ground ball, throw it up,
hit ground ball. Never not only never missed one, never

(37:55):
didn't hit it where he meant to. Every This is
the old man, just every single time hitting ground balls.
He'd put different spin on him. I was mesmerized by
this guy. He couldn't like he had to have hit
three hundred and all of them right on the spot.
I know it doesn't but he's.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Old and he was. It was. It was very impressive.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
Maybe that's your spot right and you could get out
of that. Could be your job. I would do it.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Dude. Was amazing.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
He could Like if you hit a one hopper, they
had everything in their backhand, he can't even get it
right on the edge of the of the grass and
the and the dirt. He could figure a way to
get it bounced right off that.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
That's exactly he go one hop boom, two hops, oh
spin oh, left to right, bam, and every single time
it was. It was mesmerizing to me to see that.
And you should do that?

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Can you put in a call for me? Can you
kind of help me out with that?

Speaker 5 (38:46):
You got an audition first, you were kind of.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Creeping out a couple of players, so I think you're
gonna have to work on your on your thing.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
But I was glad you had.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
Thank you for bringing us and setting that up because
I really enjoyed that with Mario and talling you so
one of the highlight of the summer for me.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
So thank you to Reds for letting us come. Who's next?
Luke is up next? Luke go ahead?

Speaker 12 (39:04):
Luke, Hey man, I just want to say you. Bush
Hamden looked like a college kid who didn't ever prepare
for an exam or an essay he had to write
in his postgame interviews, saying I'll take a look at
that on film. Five or six times.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Okay, well, let me pause right second. I'm gonna let
you finish. But we have that on we have that
on audio. You all will hear won't be able to
hear it because our speaker messed up. But let me
play this for the listeners at home. In the course
of one postgame interview, here's how many times bush Hampden
said he would have to look at it.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
This is from Stephen peak at KSR. Go ahead. I
don't have that ready yet.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
No, didn't he just tell you to do it, sent
it to you. You take a look at it.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Oh, it just came over. Get me a minute. Seek okay, Rick, you.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Take your time, Go ahead, sir, what's your we go finish?

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Make your second with Rick. We'll do it with Rex Reddy.
He's there. Rick's not on a roll.

Speaker 12 (40:03):
I just want to say, I mean, at least come
up with something different. I mean, if I don't know
something on exam, I mean, you think I'm gonna keep
putting the same answer. I mean, I don't know. It
just seemed ridiculous to me, and to how you think
about the Bears tonight? You think they're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
I hope the Bears play well. I mean, I appreciate
the call. I would love for it to go well.
I'm gonna be watching him. I don't get my hopes
up about the Bears, but big game tonight against the Vikings.
Hopefully it turns out strong. All right, Here here's Bush Hampton.
Rick says he's got it. Now here's the interview.

Speaker 13 (40:35):
Someone will take a look at You'll have to take
a look at it and take a look at it.
We gotta take a look at it. We're always looking
at it. We gotta take a look at and that's
we'll take a look at the film, gotta take a
look at and you know, we gotta take a look
at it. As you guys know, someone will take a look.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
At Okay, now look at that.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
That's eight times in the course of one postgame interview, Drew,
we gotta take.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
A look at it.

Speaker 6 (40:59):
Well, you know, I agree, they really need to look
at that. But if I'm him, and this is with
all coaches, you know, questions you're gonna get asked for
you to go in, I would maybe take a minute
or take a look at it. Yeah, maybe even pull
up the notes app jot down a few stock answers
to have ready because a lot of people are gonna
have questions after that performance and didn't get many ins.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
I have a new T shirt out here. I just
but we'll take a look at it on your shirt
to wear it to the game.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
Could have put on Shannon Dawson said, Well, if it
would have worked, you guys would have liked it.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
I think that may be his version of his version.

Speaker 6 (41:27):
This is always back to work. We're getting back to
work on moday. Now we have it to take a
look at it.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Look.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
First of all, Stoop sounded more frustrated at Bush Hampden.
Then you don't hear him do that a lot, And
he was kind of hinting a little frustration at bush Hamden.
But but you know, while I understand that we've had
six seven different offensive coordinators, there's been one common denominator,
and outside of one or two years, the offense has
been frustrating the whole time.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
So on some level, you know, it's just the latest
of these things.

Speaker 6 (41:59):
Be a weird coincidents. If all seven that we've had
are truly that bad, may.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Be into operations an NFL coach who just went one
to oh, so he can't be that bad.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
So the others are doing pretty well.

Speaker 8 (42:08):
Danen dawsa doing very well down at Miami right now.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd is a thought-provoking, opinionated, and topic-driven journey through the top sports stories of the day.

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