2025-10-03- KSR - Hour 1

KSR is live from Shady Rays at the Oxmoor Mall. 

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Speaker 3 (00:33):
Now here's Matt Jones.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Welcome everyone.

Speaker 5 (00:36):
It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Friday, October the third. I
met Jones here in Louisville, Kentucky, and an absolutely great
crowd at Shady Rays in Louisville.

Speaker 6 (00:46):
At the Oxmoor Mall.

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Speaker 6 (01:03):
Guys. Nice to see you all after a little bit
of time off.

Speaker 7 (01:07):
Welcome back, Yeah, how about our boy back finally after forever.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
We're here at Shady Rays in Louisville. I want to
fake this crowd. Okay, so I've been gone now about
three weeks.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
I come in.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
This is, without question, the best crowd we've had at
Shady Rays in Louisville, and one of the better crowds
we've had in Louisville h for a non uk U
of L preview game. Maybe of all time. Ryan, this
is a great way to come back into the States
and get going. Is looking at this massive set of
blue in Jefferson County.

Speaker 7 (01:36):
But Drew and I we tried to rally the troops
yesterday said hey, let's welcome back back home the right way.

Speaker 8 (01:40):
Let's all show up and blue. Let's all show up
at Shady Raise and welcoming back and back to the
air waves. Perfect timing.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
Wait do you go people, thank you and for Shady
Rays here while you're here during the show today in Louisville.
Buy one, get one fifty percent off in Shady Rays
here in Louisville.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
But it's only during the show. By one get one
fifty percent off.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
They just showed me they have a new Bourbon Drew
sunglasses and if you get it, the case comes with
the UK state flag on which I think is very
nice that the handshake going on there.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
How are you doing?

Speaker 5 (02:08):
I feel like I've talked to you because of Cover zero,
although I feel like I've.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
Not talked to anyone else in the world except you.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
I've tried to give them updates.

Speaker 9 (02:15):
I I feel like I've had stolen Matt time with
our Cover zero twice a week, so I've tried to
let them know how things have been going. But I
know you have a lot of stories to tell.

Speaker 6 (02:23):
Well, I'll do it through the course of the show.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
I got back last night after a sixteen hour flight
from Johannesburg to New York and then New York to Louisville.

Speaker 6 (02:34):
Awesome trip.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
I'm sure over the course of the next week or
two I will tell stories about it, but overall, absolutely awesome.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
South Africa was great. It is beautiful.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
I would say Cape Town is probably the most beautiful
city I've ever been to in the world, and just
visually mountains surrounding it ocean. It's just absolutely beautiful place.
Went on a safari, which was unbelievable. You know, had
an elephant from me to you sitting there staring at me.
Made me a little nervous a couple times, but that
was all right. Lions, you know, rhinos, hippos and like

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not just seeing them, but they're right next to you
and there's nothing in between you and them, which is
which is a lot. And then Johannesburg, you know, might
be the most chaotic place I've ever been on Earth,
without question. You know, Statistically it's one of the most
dangerous cities in America. And while I didn't feel danger necessarily,

(03:34):
I can totally see why that.

Speaker 6 (03:36):
Is the case. But overall, one of the best trips
I've been on in my life. Right, I absolutely loved it.

Speaker 7 (03:41):
I say, We've got a million questions, but I think
one thing everybody wants to know is did you really
sleep in a tent?

Speaker 6 (03:47):
Was that? I can't sleep in a tent? Now, if
you watch the video on Instagram, it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
It looks a little.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
More sparse than it was. But it was a tent,
you know, I mean, it had just.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
A lining on it. It was a nice tin. I'm not
gonna act like I was roughing it. It was was
a nice tent with a nice bed. But I did
sleep in the in the as they call it, in
the bush out there drew with with the animals. There
was an electric fence between us and them, so they
couldn't come into our our rooms. But I got up
one day, looked outside and there were they, you know,
these little they call them spring box.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
Just running around right like, right up next to your tents.

Speaker 9 (04:19):
I think they called that glamping. It's in the camp.
You just have a nice thread count on your sheets.

Speaker 6 (04:24):
But bread gown, did you repel?

Speaker 4 (04:28):
I know that's one thing you were worried about.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Well, I did not repel. But the reason is what
was the bigger theme of the trip, which is I
broke my phone quickly into it. Now, if you didn't
listen to Cover zero, I broke my phone by spilling
coke on it in my pocket while going to Nelson
Mandela's prison. Shit that was, which is not how most

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people lose their phone.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
A pocket coke. I've never heard of.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Pocket coke. I'll tell you the story in a minute.
But I had a pocket coke. But what it led
to is. You know, I was there eighteen days starting
on day five. I didn't have a phone, and you know,
it's not crazy to say I'm pretty reliant on my phone,
but I would argue even if you all aren't as
addicted to your phones as I am. It is a

(05:16):
nerve wracking experience to be in a country you do
not know, in places that you do not know, some
of which are places that are a little sketchy, without
a phone and really no way to communicate because when
I tried to log into things, they would all send
verifications to the phone that I could not get to.
So the only thing I couldn't send text messages. The

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only thing I could do is I could I message,
but I could only I message people who I had
talked to on my iPad before, which was only like
a handful of people. It was like my mom Drew,
you know, probably ten people total. So if you weren't
one of those ten, I could not communicate with you,
couldn't get into any apps in any social media except

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for some reason Instagram and otherwise, was just kind of
cut off from the world. I had no ability to communicate.
And that is when you are in a place that
you do not know. Just think about like, Uber, if
I had to go out, I had to figure out
how am I gonna get home?

Speaker 6 (06:16):
I can't call a taxi. I don't have a phone, right, yeah,
you know what I mean. Yeah, there was just no.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
Like you literally had to sit and think, Okay, if
I go there, how am I gonna get back? And
that was the whole thing, because I like to just roam,
couldn't quite do.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
This is the first time I've communicated with you since
you left. And to your point, I don't even want
to be in Saint Matthew's without a phone, let alone
South Africa, So I can't even imagine how it would
be without.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
Being in Johannesburg without a phone is probably one of
the few times I've ever been where I was like
at every move trying to.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
Think, Okay, what do we do here? What do we
do here?

Speaker 5 (06:47):
So that and I'm with a group of people the
second half of the troop though at the eight women,
I don't know those people.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
Really, you know, So that also made it ryan different.

Speaker 7 (06:56):
I think it would rattle anybody to be in a
foreign country with no access to the people in case
you need to reach somebody yeah.

Speaker 8 (07:02):
I guess you told the story he drew about the
yogurt shop. I mean that was early on.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
That was by the way.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
Then when I went back, I saw that I could
have gone to the yogurt shop on my own, Drew,
I think I would have been fined.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
I don't think anything would have happened to me in
that neighborhood.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Well, that was like when you first got there. Yeah,
you're so on high alert.

Speaker 6 (07:17):
But it was an awesome trip.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Those of you that do follow me on Instagram, which
is k Y Sports Radio, thank you guys. You were
honestly my connection back home. People were sending like dms
and messages and it was great. So, uh, I want
to tell stories as we go.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
I missed.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
I didn't get to watch Ryan any of the of
any of the Kentucky games, didn't see any of Eastern Michigan,
didn't see any of South Carolina. On the flight home yesterday,
I watched the first half of the South Carolina game
and I was so disgusted, uh somewhere over the Atlantic
Ocean that I stopped it at the end of the
first half.

Speaker 6 (07:55):
So that's kind of where I am on having watched
the games.

Speaker 7 (07:57):
I think It's fair to say that second quarter of
the South Carolina game one of the worst quarters of
UK football in a long, long time, and everything that
could go wrong did go wrong. Offense couldn't move to
the football. Defense, Well, the defense had a couple of
short touchdowns they gave up.

Speaker 8 (08:09):
But what do you expect?

Speaker 6 (08:10):
You know?

Speaker 8 (08:10):
Tom Hart did reference.

Speaker 6 (08:13):
I heard he made a lot of references to my trip.
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (08:16):
He said, it's like seeing a giant tortoise on the
beach one day and penguin's on the beach the next day.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Did see penguins?

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Let me tell you someth When you're with a group
drew of eight women, they get very excited about the penguins.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
I mean, who doesn't get excited.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Very excited about the pequins. I mean, I didn't realize
penguins were as big a deal to people. They were
very excited about the penguins.

Speaker 9 (08:36):
Did you have an animal that you were really excited
to see? Did you freak out over like a hyena?
Or you told a story about some some bamboos?

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yeah, so you know when the elephants gets so close
to you, I don't know, Shannon, that's kind of cool.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
I mean those are massive you know anything, those are
massive beans. And when they come up right next to
you and their little snout comes out and it's probably
from me to you, yeah, and you just go.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Wow, did you give us some peanuts?

Speaker 6 (09:02):
Supposed to know?

Speaker 5 (09:03):
I mean, they were very adamant about do not stick
your hands out.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
There was a story, I don't know if you're aware
of this, there was a world story about somebody in
South Africa just a couple of days ago that got
attacked by an elephant in South Africa.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
I thought, I hope that's.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
Not that, but I can totally see how it happens,
because you get you start thinking about them like they're toys,
you know, because they're just right there and you're like, oh,
isn't that sweet?

Speaker 6 (09:26):
But they're not sweet.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
They want to cuddle up with an elephant.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
And then the hippo. Now we were farther away. But
you know, I don't know if you've ever seen videos
of hippos like those are. It's not like the little hungry,
hungry hippo, right, and those things will come after you.
And so yeah, I mean it was very cool. But
you know, there's a lion from like me, to that
woman right there. Those kind of things.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Are what kind of defense did you have?

Speaker 6 (09:52):
You don't?

Speaker 5 (09:53):
I mean the woman that was driving us around, I
think she had a gun. So like things got but
you know where you go. I don't know if a
gun stops an elephant. To be honest with you, well,
elephants are big.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
I gotta outrun it.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
No, it's not me, especially the old line.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
You just got to be faster than those eight women.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Faster than elephant, or at least one of them.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
Yeah, so the eight women that so first of all,
the first eight or nine days was me on my fellowship.
It was all in Cape Town. That was great, Uh,
you know that was I love those people. They've become
good friends of mine. And then it was me and
eight women for the next ten or eleven days that
I did not know. Ended up really liking all of them.

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But that was a transition being one man with eight women.
You know, you have to see, you had to get
used to it. They ended up being great, and I
liked all of them, and they there from all over.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
But you know I was, I.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
Was like, it's weird to be the I don't know
that I was the manliest person to be honest with
you just because you know I'm I'm not. I'm not
that alpha, but I but I kind of had to
be for this trip.

Speaker 8 (11:00):
So I was gonna ask you, did they hold your
hand and walk you through?

Speaker 6 (11:03):
It's South Africa is like a very patriarchal.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
Society, like like everyone talks to the man, which is
you know that's weird, Like everyone talks to the man.
So like I had to people would come to me
like I was a spokesperson for the group, and I wasn't.
I mean, I learned when you drew You're like, where
y'all want to go, That's where I'll go, right, I
sound like you rhyme, but that's true. When I have

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eight of them, wherever y'all want to go, I'll go.
So I ended up being very differential. I probably talked
less on the second half than you. You wouldn't recognize
that you.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Need to add some females to ks on. That's how
we get Mathew finally stop talking as much.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
But I would say, though, you.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
Know what Jerry, I'm talking about, Okay, talking.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
About if I walked around though, when I saw one
guy with eight women surround him, I'm I five man man,
you had to be the most popular guys out there.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
It's no doubt that some people talk to me like
these were my eight.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Wives, your reality show.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
Some people would.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Talk like that, and I'd be like, no, it's not
like that, which is they're just teach to repel. But
I didn't get to repel. To answer your question, I
didn't get repelled because that was the day I was
trying to get my phone fixed and uh, but I
broke my phone. If you didn't listen to Cover zero,
I told this story on there in more detail. We
got on a boat to go to where Nelson Mandela

(12:26):
was held in prison. It's called Robin Island, and if
you ever get to go, highly recommend going. I mean,
Nelson twenty seven years in prison is one thing to
hear about here about it's another thing to see. And
it's a island about four miles off the coast of
Cape Town.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
You have to take you have to take a boat.
It's very rocky weather, so like.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
This is where the Pacific Ocean, excuse, the Atlantic Ocean
the Indian Ocean come together and it makes it very
bumpy and rocky. The boat trip was very, very rocky,
and they said make sure you sit down so that
you don't fall. So I had a seat right, and
then this woman comes over to me. She's nine, she's

(13:06):
probably in her eighties nineties, from the rural parts of
South Africa. She was with a group of ten women
who were coming to Robin Island from for the first time.
It was clearly very special to them, right, these ten
or twenty women, you know, they're like grandma's And you
know I have a soft spot Ride, Yeah, you really do.
I have a soft spot for grandma's. And if ten

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or twenty women are coming from rural South Africa to
see Nelson Mandela's prison for the first time, Drew, that's
a heartwarming story. And who am I to get in
the way of that? So I help these women on
the boat. I helped because what safety is not a thing.
They're big on a lot of stuff, So helping these
women on the boat, etc.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
Well we're out on the boat. This woman sitting over here.
I'm here.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
She just gets up in the middle of the boat,
ride looks at me and goes looks at me, points
and goes, get thump out of that chair. I just
looked at her and she said get up and I
was like, well, okay, what if you say whatever you
say Auntie, like right, and then someone takes her chairs.

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The point is now, I got to stand during this thing,
and I was drinking a coke and I was having
a hard time having balance. This was the rockiest water
I've ever been in. So I put my coke in
the pocket of my jacket. I forgot my phone was
in there too, and so when it started rocking, I
got thrown into a wall. Coke poured over my phone

(14:30):
and drew. That's how I ended up ruining my iPhone
in South Africa.

Speaker 9 (14:34):
I loved the trust in an open coke in the
pocket and out the phone though like that's just gonna stay.

Speaker 6 (14:39):
It did not work, and that's shanon how I ended
up without it.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
You didn't have another pocket on the other side of you.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
I did, but I was trying not to throw up.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, So there's.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Probably very few people who can say they ruined their
iPhone Ryan at the island where Nelson Mandela was held
for twenty seven years.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
But I actually was one who did that with pocket
coats the pocket with a pocket coat. I did it.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
So did was it a little liberating? Though you're not
attached to your phone twenty four hours a day.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
It was, but it was first of all, yes, like
and you know, we here's one of the things I
think that I realize from it. A lot of the
bs that we take in every day.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
We don't need to do that, sure, we really don't.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
It's something that arguing and the yell, we really don't
need it, Like you can really cut that out of
your life, and it can be there's no reason to
sit there and watch people scream at each other. We
choose to do that. We don't need to do that.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
So that was good.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
But what I did miss was communicating with people, and
I did feel detached from like this world, this big
blue nation world, and I missed that, but I didn't miss.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
A lot of the other stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Well.

Speaker 9 (15:41):
Last Saturday during the game, I poured diet coke on
my phone and my TV trying to not watch that.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
So we were in a good spot.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
But I want to talk about that because I do
think there's a lot to talk about about the status
of UK football.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
The Athletic. The writer for The Athletic called.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Me and I think after the Georgia game, the Athletics
doing a pretty big feature on will Mark Stoops survive
at Kentucky and we talked for a long time. I
want to talk about that. And I also have to
note while I was gone, the Reds made the playoffs.
We will do all of that and be right back
here in Louisville. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.

Speaker 6 (16:13):
We'll go back.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
It is Kentucky Sports Radio AM nine two eight oh
twenty two eighty seven. Uh text machine seven seven two
seven seven four five two five four, So I don't
have access to the text machine, so I can't read question.
So I'm gonna give a couple that people wrote me
on Instagram that I'll answer real quick. One person, rights,
Matt Uh, what would you recommend coming back going to

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South Africa on a trip for other people?

Speaker 6 (16:38):
Yes, I think it's awesome.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
A lot of the stereotype, you know what, people got
me worried before I left Drew because everybody was going, oh,
you're it's dangerous. They don't they're gonna you know, it's
it's fine, Like you do have to keep your I'm
not gonna lie. You have to keep your wits about you.
Like there are parts of town that the locals said
to me, I wouldn't go in those parts. So it's
just you have to you have to know where you are.
But in general, I definitely would go. I think a

(17:04):
lot of the stereotypes that i'd heard before were not
true at all. I think we just we just sort
of take it for granted that whatever we hear from
media about the rest of the world, well, that has
to be how it is. I didn't find that to
be the case, although I will not that Johannesburg is
chaotic and wild. So but if you went, if you
just went to Cape Town, you'd have an amazing blast.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
I'd rather go to johannes Very That's fun to me.

Speaker 9 (17:28):
If only you had pictures to show us of all this,
I would like to in your brain.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
No pictures.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
I did ask some of the women with me if
they would take pictures so that I could have them
when so that I could prove the people I went.

Speaker 8 (17:43):
If there's one of you standing on the shores of
what Cape Fear?

Speaker 6 (17:47):
Cape Fear is No, that's a movie, and that's that'd
be cool. That's a movie. And that's in North Carolina. Sorry.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
Close the Cape of Good Hope, Cape of Good Hot
stood on the Edge, which which was maybe the most
beautiful view I've ever seen in my life, Cape of
Good Hope, right the southwest tip of Africa, where you
look out into the ocean. That was very I did
get a video, but again I didn't take that chin
and I had to get somebody to take it.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
For I understand now going back to the yogurt story
real quick, because this is the one I want to
focus on for just a second. When the guy said
that you need a chaperone across the street, yes, did
you not think that maybe this guy he lives there,
he knows what he's talking about.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Maybe I should take him up on that.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Well, So I drove in in the middle of the
night or had an uber so I couldn't see the
surrounding neighbor. But there was, like I could see across
the street a mall, so I thought, you know, I
can get that yogurt. Turns out he was ridiculous. Right
next to the yogurt store was a rolex place I
would have been fined. Yeah, but there are parts of

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the I will say, to be fair to the guy,
there are parts of that city that I wouldn't have
gone without a like we So I went to a
park called Soweto and if you get the chance y'all
to look it up sometime, it's called Soweto for Southwest Territories. Basically,
during apartheid, the government any African American that was living
in parts of the city, they just moved them all out.

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They made them all leave and go out, and they
created these shanty towns on the outside of town and
they made them all move there. They basically this is
like in the fifties and sixties, just completely moved out
millions of people. So we went walking through one of
those places, and I mean, I'll I'll remember it forever.
It's the worst poverty I've ever seen in my life.

(19:33):
You know, there's a lot of times I'm the same way.
We complained about how bad things are and this and that.
There's a lot I complained about in America. There's a
lot of other people complained about. You guys should say
a prayer every single night of thanks because you, like
you can't you can't picture how some people in this
world have to live. Some of the saddest scenes that

(19:57):
I've ever seen, And we went walking through them. And
I've been to the poorest parts of apple Atch up
in the Hollers and I've seen some places that are very,
very sad. Now, imagine you take those places and you
put a million people and you make them live on
top of each other, right like on top of each other,
eight people in a room the size fifteen people in

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the room of the.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
Size of this shady race right here.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
So when you see that, it's it's disheartening and it's tough,
and it's you know, it's nerve wracking. Listen, when you're
six foot four and you look like me and you're
you're white, and you're walking through these places, you start
to know like you can't help but feel like everyone's
looking at you and you can't help it. But I'm

(20:41):
so glad I did it, because there will be a
time where I will have something that I'm really upset
about and I'll be ready to complain, and I will
just sit and think of that image, Ryan, and go,
you know what, things are pretty good here. There's I'm
standing here in a city where everyone here has access
to pretty much everything, even if they're not and if
they don't have money, a lot of money, you can

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get by.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
Like it's a different thing over there.

Speaker 8 (21:06):
Sad just hearing you talk about it.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
It is such your heart.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
Listen, that society is got the greatest wealth disparity of
any society in the country. You can see some of
the nicest mansions you've ever seen in your life. Drive
four blocks and people are living in absolute squalor and it's
four blocks away, and you just go, goodn crief, How
in the world does this happen?

Speaker 8 (21:27):
Was this part of your the fellowship where you guys
it was part of a group field trip.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
It was actually part of the second part they wanted
to see. They want us to see the actual local community.
And I'm glad we did it. And then, uh, you know, because.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
The history there, like, it's a lot of lessons for here,
and I don't want to get into all that. I
may do that on the Matt Jones podcast sometime, but
a lot of lessons. But the thing I learned the most,
I'm coming out of there saying I'm going to be
more appreciative even in the worst time, Shannon, for what
life is like for all of us as apt to

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you know, it's one.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
Plane trip away.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
It's people who share the same earth as us, same God, etcetera,
who live a completely different existence than we can even imagine.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Gives a whole new perspective that you aren't even really
truly aware of. I mean, you see these things, I'm sure,
but then when you see them in person, it's got to,
you know, change you for the better. And it sounds
like you took that away from your trip and.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
I hope so. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
And also by not having a phone, Yeah, Drew, you're
living in the moment walking there, and there's also not
because there's nothing else to look at.

Speaker 9 (22:27):
Yeah, I mean it stinks. We need those reminders, but
thanks for sharing that, because we all need to realize
how lucky.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
We came in.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
But I do want, I do want to make it
overall very positive because I did have a great time.
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(23:19):
the summary because I don't know the specifics. What because
this was the day I lost my phone. Did Mark
Pope and Pat Kelsey get in a fight?

Speaker 7 (23:28):
Uh, didn't get into a fight. It was a take
Kenny visiting him, and the period to visit him started
at midnight. So apparently Pope had scheduled like twelve midnight
to twelve fifteen, and Kelsey was coming in right behind
him twelve fifteen to twelve thirty. Well, traffic, things got happened.
It was down in Atlanta. Pope got there late, so
Kelsey went in.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
A little early.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
So when they came back out, they had a little
had some words. No nothing physical, and apparently they even
hugged it out when it was over.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
They had words like in his yard, yeah, and he's
kind of awesome.

Speaker 6 (23:58):
Sir Franklin, I like I would.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
I imagine you're a high school recruit and two of
the biggest coaches in the country, at least one of
the biggest, another one really tiny, getting a fight right
in your yard.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yeah, it's the visual think.

Speaker 9 (24:10):
I think the height differential makes this so much more entertaining.
When this first leaked out on message boards in the Internet,
it was like, take Kenny's dad has pulled him off
of each other and there were baseball bats. It was like,
greatly exaggerated there for a little bit, but it does
it seems like the consensus has come out that they
were yelling at each other pretty good.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Outside people were riding me Shannon going, what do you
think about Mark Pope beating up.

Speaker 6 (24:30):
Pat Kelcey, And I was like, what, yeah, I did.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
I had no context, cause, like I only had access
to the news, and it was like, that wasn't on
the news, So I go, did that really happen? I
was getting excited, but it sounds like maybe.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
It was greatly exaggerated.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
The most embarrassing part of the story, though, is that
take Kenny didn't pick either one of them.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
He went to.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Kansas after all of that, he ended up picking Kansas.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
All right, let's talk to you k football. I watched
the first half of South Carolina disaster, every thing, you know,
everything that's frustrated me about the last few years. The
Stoops era kind of summed up there into the first half.
Problems again, two turnovers that end up in touchdowns, an
offense that looked completely lost to me. So I had

(25:16):
a lot of time to sit and think about it,
and Drew, here's where I am. Mark's gotta finish the season,
and I think fans should support the team. I know
I'm gonna be watching the game tomorrow. Hopefully people come
out to ks Bar and root like heck for him.
Everybody did against South Carolina. We were full from the
South Carolina game of people being excited. Look, we got

(25:37):
seven what eight games left? We might as well might
as well cheer and be excited. With that said, you
can't this can't continue to go on like this. Kentucky
football is a and I said this to the athletic yesterday.
Right now, to me, it's a terrible combination of not
good and boring, which is an awful conversation, all awful combination.

(26:00):
Not only do we really not does it not feel
like we have a chance to win these games. They're
also awful to watch. Our offense is just a complete disaster.
I don't blame Cutter Bowley. I gotta be honest with you.
I don't really blame Zach Calzada, and I'm now going
back and not blaming Broan Vanagriff and not blaming even
Devin Leary. At some point, when you bring in four

(26:21):
high profile quarterbacks and none of them work, you have
to sit there and go, all right, maybe it's maybe
it's us.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
Not then, right, At some point you have to say that.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
I also would say when you have an offensive coordinator
that was here and is now three and one in
the NFL and it's kind of the toast of the
NFL and here the offense sputtered, you do have to
sit here and ask, well, maybe it's not them, maybe
it's us.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Right, when we have guys that.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
Are playing in the NFL who were free agents that
played here and yet we're part of defenses or part
of offenses that didn't have success, at some point you
have to sit here and say, maybe it's not them,
maybe it's us. There's only one uncommon denominator and all this. Honestly,
it's Mark. And for me, Mark's got eight games or

(27:07):
seven games whatever left for me to see if I
have any confidence. But at this point, if it doesn't
get better, Drew, you can't bring this back next year.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
You cannot.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
You cannot if the program is not significantly better in November, Drew,
you can't run this back again.

Speaker 9 (27:26):
No, this is kind of the we're running it back
this year because they win and got forty or fifty
new players and you hit the reset button and it's
all right now. Show us that you've got this back
on track. And so far it's not looking to be
back on the track, or even near a track at all.
I can't even see a track. I hate how you know,
the two defensive touchdowns, that's awful. You're not gonna win

(27:47):
a game ever like that. But even then it's twenty
one to ten in the second quarter. Yes, but when
you're Kentucky football, twenty one to ten is lights out.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
It should not be.

Speaker 9 (27:56):
The case that you're an SEC football team and it's
over a top ten paid cover and if you're down ten,
it's like, well, what could we possibly do down ten?
There's just they're not able to create explosive plays or
come from behind in a gap, whatsoever. If they don't
get that first touchdown in which they did Saturday, if
they don't just hang on to that with good defense,
then they just can't outscore teams.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
For me, it's a very simple question. And let's I mean,
we got a huge crowd here today. I mean, let
me just ask, is anyone in this crowd looking forward
to watching that game tomorrow?

Speaker 6 (28:29):
Guy? Okay, two guys. That's good.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
We've got one hundred plus people here. There's two guys
raising their hand cover. I'm watching it, Ryan. I want
us to win, but I'm not looking forward to it
because I know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (28:43):
Here's what's going to happen tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
We're going to be oddly more competitive than you think,
but never have a chance to win the game, and
really never have. So we're gonna lose like thirty to thirteen,
and it's gonna be like we've always been in it.
But there's never gonna be one moment in this game
where anybody thinks we had a chance to win the game.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
That's gonna be what it is tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
The final score will be maybe it'll be thirty seven thirteen,
but it was like twenty to thirteen halfway through the
third quarter, and we had the ball with a chance
to tie, and then we just got two yards and
punted and then that was it. Right, Ryan, that's gonna
be the game. We've seen it a million times. I
think it's gonna happen again.

Speaker 8 (29:25):
I think you're probably right.

Speaker 7 (29:26):
You know, I gotta admit last weekend and we took
the first drive and we got a touchdown. Second drive,
we got a field go out like okay, they've got
the offense figured out, and then just nothing after that
and then you know, Coach Dups on his Coaches show
this week didn't offer any excuses, but he also didn't
offer any solutions.

Speaker 9 (29:41):
But he also had one phone call from what I understand, yeah,
thirty minutes in and not because he wouldn't take them,
because no one's calling, Like that's the problem.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
Is apathy.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
The thing that kills your program, Shannon, is apathy. We
were getting towards the end of cow with a little
bit of apathy. You can't have that. We are in
apathy and next week, big blue madness is happening on
an off week of UK football at that moment, this
show will only be talking about basketball.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
Let's be real.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
I mean, I'm not saying that's what it should be,
but that's what it'll be. Every single one of you
all will be asking me questions about basketball, will be
talking about the roster, will be looking at the schedule.
It's gonna be like, it's gonna be out of mind,
and then Texas is gonna come.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yep, right, Tennessee, and then.

Speaker 6 (30:32):
Tennessee's gonna come.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
And then by the time we get to games that
in theory we co it could be competitive against Auburn Vandy.
We're gonna be playing basketball against the number one team
in America, Purdue. We're gonna have Louisville just around the corner,
and those bat football games are gonna be like, well
they're on. I guess I'll watch it. But Shannon, apathy
is gonna hit and you in twenty twenty five, when

(30:56):
nil and everything is so important, you cannot have apathy
in your football, and we have it.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
You know, I think back to the Joker Joker Phillips era,
the first couple of years of the Mark Stoops era.
About this time of year, we all shift our attention
to basketball, but then Stupents kind of took that away.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
For a while when I ask with success.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
But now I feel like we're trending back to those
early Mark Stoops years to where we're now to the
point where we don't care and we're ready for basketball
October the third.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
There's one more thing that in this.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
When I was talking to the athletic yesterday, they were
talking Drew about and they pointed this out because they
were asking they will asked me a question about it.
But then he pointed it out, and I went, man,
that's a good point, all right. So what teams Drew
Ryan are on our level in theory, in the.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
Sec IS programs, What are the teams on our level?
Mississippi State, Misissippi State.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
Mississippi State beat a team that was in the playoff
last year at home this year, nearly beat Tennessee at
home last week. Mississippi State, I think we would all say,
is clearly.

Speaker 6 (31:53):
On the rise.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
Who else miss Missouri two years ago went is won
ten plus games, would have been in the playoff if
we had the current playoff system, and it is five
and zero right now.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
It's another one you'd think Vandy is well.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Vandy is in a game today that's scored again. Game tomorrow,
that's game day against Alabama with a chance to really,
if they win tomorrow, have a shot.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
At going to the playoff. Vander Built Football. What else? Uh, well,
South Carolina was in South Carolina. We are uncompetitive against
South Carolina in the last two year.

Speaker 8 (32:25):
They've won the last four in a row again.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
And we have not been competitive in the last two games.
Who else?

Speaker 8 (32:31):
Arkansas?

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Arkansas just fired their coach and decided we're not gonna
be on this level anymore.

Speaker 6 (32:37):
And they've decided to make a change.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Now, you just hit the five teams that I think
are on Kentucky's level and drew every single one of them.
Every single one of them is either much better and
on the rise or has made a coaching change. We
are definitively sixteenth out of sixteen in the SEC. We
are literally definitively there's not even an argument.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
We are sixteenth out of sixteen.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Drew that.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
You just can't be that. You just can't be that.

Speaker 9 (33:05):
And that's why if you want to talk pony up
at nil and the things for Kentucky's at a disadvantage,
I'll hear you. When we're having a conversation about trying
to knock down the Georgia wall or get to, you know,
an SEC championship. But these other schools have just as
many disadvantages, Vandy even more, and they figured it out.
You can go outside the conference. Look at Indiana right now.

(33:26):
I mean they went and got a coaching hire who
has completely turned a program that was nothing into a
contender and a playoff contender. So you know, we can
talk all day about well he doesn't have enough money,
Well he has enough money to be better than sixteenth
in the country. We'll talk to the money and when
you're trying to get to fourth, fifth in the conference.
Right now, we just need to not be dead last.

Speaker 6 (33:46):
So our goal here is to at least we may
We will never be on the.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
Level of Alabama, Georgia, lsu in like Texas in terms
of resources, but our goal was to get to a
level that was like the Tennessee, Florida, Old miss that level,
well that level, forget that. We're now in the last
level that Mississippi State, South Carolina, of Vandy, Arkansas, Missouri,

(34:17):
and within that level we are definitively the worst situation. Definitively,
it's not even arguable. We're definitively the worst situation. And Ryan,
you can't keep that up when they go into this offseason.
If they're gonna fix this, they're gonna need twenty million
dollars worth of players. Who's given that money? Who's given

(34:38):
that money? If you don't have a change, we we
have to either improve exponentially or this is gonna have
to switch.

Speaker 7 (34:45):
I think what hurts us as a fan that I
think we had fought and clawed our way back up
to get into that middle tier a little bit. We
were ahead of these figh schools you're talking about, but
now we've dropped, not just with them, we're below them.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
Yeah, you got an Auburn hat on, sir. We were
spoke last year. That was a game.

Speaker 6 (35:01):
If you want to be successful in the SEC, you
have to beat Auburn at home. You have to. You
have to.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
And when we did, we not win. I think we
got dragged if I remember correctly. Now we're going there,
Now we're going there. I just don't have any confidence.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
So I hate it. I like Mark Stoops, and I
will say this, Mark.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Stoops is, in my opinion, the best coach Kentucky has
had in modern college football in my lifetime, the best
and if he and one day when he's gone, everyone
should applaud him, and one day we should honor him
in the way we've done Tubby Smith and Rick Patino,
et cetera. But it's not about what you did in
the past, Ryan, it's about the future. And I don't

(35:42):
see a way that this fan base can continue on
the trajectory.

Speaker 7 (35:45):
It is no because there's no answer for this season.
I think we're in just for a long, hard, ugly season.
The rest of the way we bought in. You know,
they were so quiet this spring. Maybe that's why they
were quiet. Maybe they knew we were gonna have a
bad season.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
Think they were quite because they knew were gonna stink.

Speaker 9 (35:58):
Maybe so, or maybe then they checked out on the
off season completely, even though they deny it, they did.
They didn't spring game, they didn't even act like there
was a spring game. But part of that was, you know,
you talk to people in the.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Circle who are like, well, it's a quiet confidence.

Speaker 9 (36:11):
They're just gonna catch everyone off guard, right, But they
did so now they're here and there's nothing. It's like, well,
what did we just do all year?

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I said during the offseason. If you're gonna be like this,
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fund nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. I
want to talk some basketball in the second hour. Before
we get to that, let's go to a couple other things.
Bruce Pearl is no longer the coach. Drew Franklin, I
have some strong thoughts about that, But what do you
think about him resigning? Apparently he's not gonna run for senate,
so I don't know what he's gonna do. But my
guess is he's gonna end up with a conservative political
talk show.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
That's my guess. But what do you think about him
not being a coach?

Speaker 4 (37:42):
I was surprised he actually did it.

Speaker 9 (37:44):
You know, it was rumored for a few weeks that
he was considering stepping away for a senate run. But
I thought, you know, he has the political interest, He's
very open about it. I thought that was just him
being a part of the conversation, not that he would
actually retire a year removed from what winning and run,
winning the regular season, making the final four. I thought
he'd still try to go a little bit longer, to

(38:05):
try to actually get a national championship since he's been
so close.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
So I was shocked.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
What an absolutely ryan, completely selfish action by Bruce Pearl. No,
it is, it's completely selfish. Wait till two weeks before
the year. Your players cannot transfer, right, you put the
school in a position. I mean they can, but they
can't really because where are they gonna go? Like everybody
else has already filled their rosters. I mean maybe the

(38:32):
top guy could go, but most of the guys are
gonna be stuck there. Plus the semesters already started it
like he waited until they got till the end of
the side, Like you can't even enroll at some of
these schools this lay.

Speaker 6 (38:45):
Then you make it to where the school has to
pick your son.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
Now they were probably gonna pick his son anyway, but
you wait till rite before the season, and then they
have to pick your son. So you end up with
a situation like Villanova did with Jay Wright, where he
did it to where they had to pick the assistant
and then that guy ended up not being very good.
So you're coming completely selfish. You spent the last few
months basically saying you didn't want to be the coach,
but you didn't have the guts to actually do it. Instead,

(39:10):
you trapped everybody and waited until the last minute to
do it. Bruce Pearl's a great coach. I think Bruce
Pearl's really funny. Really, I like Bruce Pearl. If he
came here right now, I'd say, hey man, great to
see you. You've done great, we can be friendly. But
that was a completely selfish action that now he's done
the Jay Wright did, Tony Bennett did. I think these coaches,

(39:35):
it is unbelievable to me that they would do that
and put their teams in that position.

Speaker 7 (39:39):
Yeah, you know, I'm a Bruce Pearl supporter. I've always
liked Bruce Pearl, but the timing of it. He put
the Auburn basketball program put him in handcuffs. Nothing they
can do nothing, They could do, nothing they could do,
and they've made it.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
I think Shannon he doesn't even help his son because
rather than his son getting an off season to build
the team in his image and to get some time, now,
if they don't succeed, they'll be they'll put it on
his son. He didn't even get that long to do it.
He didn't even get to establish he's now he's got
his dad's culture with the team. I just I see it.
I know we have an Auburn fan. You might disagree
with me, but I just think that was just a

(40:11):
completely selfish act by him for an otherwise great coach
who really has built something awesome at all.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
You should have announced that last March. I was also
shocked to see the news. Also kind of surprised they
signed Steven Pearl to a five year deal. I mean, yeah, exactly,
and I think Bruce Pearl they said he's gonna be
like an ambassador to the program.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
I'm not really sure what that even means.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
But if you were Steven, would you want him around?

Speaker 4 (40:33):
No.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
I wouldn't want my dad over there. Like like, if
you're gonna make it on your own, you need to
establish I mean, I could see Bruce showing up at
practice and telling Steven shut up and starting to coach.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Well, he's the ambassador.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
I guess he could do, you know what I mean, Like,
I wouldn't want that if I was Steven.

Speaker 9 (40:49):
To be honest, No, I expect Bruce sitting in the
corner at practice with a whistle and a clipboard and
he won't chime in a lot, but his presence is
just enough that it's a distraction and it won't feel
like they've really handed things over. I feel like now
that we've seen Tony Bennett just do it last year,
you mentioned Jay Wright.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
There's probably others at other levels. We don't even know.

Speaker 9 (41:07):
These are three high profile schools. Is this like a
move that coaches will start doing with that question like
this because there is no doubt at respect programs, because
I don't think anyone expects that it's gonna work for
Steven and it probably won't work at Virginia and it
didn't work at Vildova.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
It's been pretty clear for a while. And by the way,
this is fine. He's a grown man, like he has
a right to do whatever. It's been clear for a while.
His mind is on a different world. He wants to
be involved in politics. It's clear he does interview after
interview after interview about politics, which is totally fine. But
if you want to do that, Bruce, go do it right,

(41:42):
Go do it. Maybe you'll be successful, maybe you won't,
but go do it. But this, I think Auburn basketball
is gonna take a step back, and they didn't need to,
and they're going to because of his selfish.

Speaker 7 (41:53):
Yeah, Bruce Pearl built Auburn basketball and one of the
best teams in the conference, one of the best teams
in the country.

Speaker 8 (41:57):
Stephen Pearl didn't even get the Murray State job.

Speaker 6 (42:01):
That's a really good point to runner up for Murray. Well,
you know now be coaching Auburn.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
We'll take a break, come back, talk some the UK
basketball next