2025-10-07- KSR - Hour 2

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Speaker 3 (00:59):
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Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Welcome back our number two Kentucky Sports Radio eight five,
nine two eight twenty two eighty seven. Here it's KOs
Bar and Grill. We are now open for lunch. Come
on out and see us. I'm gonna be hosting trivia next.
People have passed a week from Wednesday, just for people
to know that'll be the first one of the new year.
Will be a week from Wednesday. It is people here now,

(01:25):
all ordering the food and doing their thing. Drew Franklin,
We've got some breaking news. Strannon running on a Duke
Basketball has announced they are naming Jason Tatum chief Basketball
Officer to help John Shire with recruiting and help him
pick players every year to go to Duke. I'm sure

(01:50):
that's a completely symbolic job, but I still would say
that's a very smart thing to do, and I think
Kentucky probably needs to do one of those at some point.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
I think it's it's a lot of schools are doing it.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
I don't think Mark Pope or John Shire for that matter,
needs a player to uh to to help them do it.
But I do think having the symbolism of having Jason
Tatum would would be good.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, Kentucky, you know, like who would you shake? Goodess
Alexander's doing his name out there. You know somebody who's popular,
like as popular as Jason Tatum right now. It makes
a difference to these young kids.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Who would you pick.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
I mean, your choices would be like Anthony, Devin Booker, Carl,
Shae Gil just Alexander. Those are probably the four that
would make the most sense. You also want to get
somebody that's like longevity. I know in the shoe world,
Shay Gildes, Alexander released his first shoe and it was
like very popular, even though I think it's really ugly

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between me and you, but it got a lot of attention.
I don't know who would you pick if you were
going to do Kentucky's It's tough.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
Could we have just like co gms?

Speaker 5 (02:57):
I think you gotta have one co gms, don't worry.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
I would I lean Carl because I think he would
actually be the most involved.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
I met Carl's like he's the least cool of the
group for the for the He's.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
The number one pick in an NBA All Star right now.
I just nothing against the other guys. I don't see
the others actually getting as.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Almost could do anything. We don't need them to do anything.
We just need him to answer the phone.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Yeah. Like, well, I mean I.

Speaker 6 (03:23):
Think Carl would be like, let me call recruit. Like
I think Carl would actually take it. Yeah, okay, it's
very common though. Trey Young's the GM of Oklahoma. Now, Uh,
Steph Curry is the GM of Davidson in football.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
We just hosted Eastern Michigan Max Crosby's their GM. Lots
of schools are just doing it for the name recognition
and to help with recruiting.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Well, I I would love to see I'd love to
see us do something. I think that's smart for Duke.
I think it's smart to have a guy like that
to put him in that role. Jason Tatum is one
of the most popular players, so if you've got him,
But we we should do something. We got so many,
we should do one. What if what if Cal got
one of them to do it for Arkansas?

Speaker 6 (04:05):
We couldn't have that. I can't do that.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
That would be people think they got mad about reed
Shepherd shirt.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
Yeah, the Uless thing that we can excuse a little
bit because he's trying to start a coaching course. It
seemed like an honorary just helping Arkansas out as a
side mission. Then no, that you can't. We can't have
you doing that.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
I do have to go back to I still can't
believe Read Sheppard did. People still bring it up. I mean,
I'm I forgive the kid.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
By the way. He started in their first preseason game
and looked.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
Good, looked really good.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
He looked really good. He's gonna he might end up
starting in the season.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
He'll start.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
They've already named it because uh, you were fleet towards
a c L TEA, so they don't. They don't have
another one.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
So so he's starting. Yeah, he's the guy.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Well and I I love him, but I still can't
believe he wore that Arkansas shirt.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
If he just would have flipped it put a Kentucky
shirt on.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
He didn't wear it at all. He didn't. It was
we were playing them. You know, these people are married
to get you ever put a Tennessee shirt on, Thank
you very much, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
And they're married.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
Look at her face that he does.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
Oh he's low.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
Well hold on on, that was her birthday.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yeah, but you can't wear a Tennessee shirt ever, Although
you said she wears a Kentucky shirt.

Speaker 6 (05:18):
Sometimes he's got a little Tennessee outfit he puts on
her birthday. You know he's allowed one a year.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
All Right, I'll let you, I'll let you by it.
I could tell he didn't like this that she let
that out walking home. We have one more pieces of
breaking news running on AH the UH. It has been
announced that the UFL, the United Football League, is moving
a team to Kentucky. They will be in Louisville. They
will be called the Louisville Kings.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Do you like it?

Speaker 4 (05:47):
The Louisville Kings, a UFL team will be in the
in the United Football League, which is what they're gonna
play in the spring.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
I like the Louisville as a team. I wish the
name that had a little more fun with it. With
all the Kentucky culture, you could go several different directions.
So I don't love the name Kings, but I am
glad there's a local team. Will you support the Louisville Kings?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I will probably go. I'm with Drew. I'm so glad
the team is coming to Kentucky. He's having a team here.
I think it's pretty cool. Not crazy about the nickname,
but I'll support the team.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
He went off to King Louis right from Louisville.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Oh, is that what it is? Went off?

Speaker 3 (06:21):
I mean that would make I mean that would make sense.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Oh, you're just guessing.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
There's a King Louis and louisvill connection, right, I don't know,
not one of the King Louise. There's like fifty of them.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Okay, but whichever one.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah, I would have liked either a literation so like
the Louisville Leopards, or make it like the Kentucky Kings.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yeah, that's the logo right there, it's green.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Or make it like the Kentucky Kings, or like the
Louisville Bourbons.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
You know, just something. I'm with you. Kings is kind
of a boring name.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
I have the explanation. It celebrates the deep history and
heritage of one of the oldest cities west of the
Appalachian Mountains. It's name chance rights name builds off the
royal connection to Francis King Louis.

Speaker 7 (07:05):
Right.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Did you read that or did you know?

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I didn't even know about it till you just mentioned it.
I didn't even that was breaking news to me. I
didn't know that they were getting a too wow.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
And the sport and the derby known as the Sport
of Kings. They can bind them. Okay, that seems a
little forced.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
But whatever.

Speaker 6 (07:20):
I'm good to have a team though. And the colors neutral.
It's green, like if it was red, I probably would
have had a hard time getting involved. Color's not gonna
upset anybody. I'll be a fan.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
I'm excited about it. I think it's cool. Hopefully, uh,
hopefully it works. I'm nine twenty two eighty seven. Before
I go the phones, we got to talk about you
in Alarm dot com. Yeah, all right, we brought this
up on the pregame show, but it needs to be
repeated here. First of all, good news, Ryan Leman gets
a national endorsement for Alarm dot com.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
How about that?

Speaker 6 (07:52):
I can't right.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
You can go on Instagram, you can go on the TikTok,
you can go on Facebook, you can go on ads.
There is Ryan Men's face as the new Faceflarm dot com.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
That's good.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
You see something like that, you go, wow, it's gotta
be big money.

Speaker 6 (08:09):
Right, things are moving in Rhyme's direction.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Watch out, it's uh you know what life is coming
my way? And then you told us on the pregame
show that you did the ad for a set of
doggy toys, which is such a rhyme lemon thing to do.
Not money, not even a gift certificate doggy toys. How

(08:33):
did you come to that as your as the payment?

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
You know, they approached me about doing his ad campaign
and I just said I would do it for free.
I mean, they're why the system saved my house, it
saved everything. So I would be willing to kind of
because I'm an endorser for their local affiliate, Silent Guard,
so I work with Silent Guard here in town.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
But did you ever think like you're gonna be using
my face? Yeah, this face has value. Well I don't
know about that. Well, no, this is they weren't using it.
What do you think name image likeness means, uh, not
my face?

Speaker 6 (09:05):
Well then why did they use you? They seem to
like it since it's everywhere.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
They could have used anybody's face, they chose your face.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
So I didn't even ask for the box of doggy toys.
They sent that on their own a cat.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
So you didn't even negotiate the deal.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
They felt so bad, they.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Felt they so you negotiated for nothing nothing? Yes, and
then they threw in doggy toy. They threw in a
box of doggy toys. Mario saw them at my house
this weekend. There's like two hundred dollars worth of doggy toys.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Oh well, well, if it's two hundred dollars worth of
doggy toys.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Speaking of Ryan's face on this picture that you tweeted out, Matt.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
I'm gonna get to the door. Hang on, don't do
the caption yet, because I'm gonna bring that.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
I don't know, but I wasn't gonna ask about the cat. Okay,
go ahead with just wondering did they photoshop his face
or alter or something.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
I don't think. I think to look at this, I
don't think they altered.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
They didn't.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
They just told me to look really serious.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
They said, this is her eyes closer together.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
Your eyes are not that close to gather. I don't know.
I don't look at my eyes, Shannon, I'm with you.
I don't think that's how you look.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Something's off a little bit. Did they like give him
like a filter to slimmer's face down a little bit?

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Or yeah, but we're not.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
First of all, the caption serious security for serious people.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
But that's a serious look, right, you are not serious.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Serious, like you're the least serious person I know serious
security for serious people.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Oh that's a serious look right there.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I am dead serious about seriousness and serious alarm systems.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
Well, they're certainly getting their money's worth for that look.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
But I'm Shannon, I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
It's not as bad a photoshop as that real estate picture.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
His head on somebody else's body.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yes, where they literally they literally took a really handsome.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Just put headless salesman.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah, I don't think it's as bad as I don't
think it's as bad as.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
That one, but I do think that might be photos.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
She's got more hair on his head.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
It looks like me. Or do they give you more
hair hair? I think they is more hair. They gave
you Peyton Manning's haircut too. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
The comb over, well you got a free glamour shot
out of it, if you want to prove it.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I just felt like, you know, when they approached me
to doing it, I felt like, this is I owe
them a great debt of gratitude.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
So why not did you know the reach that they
were going to use it?

Speaker 4 (11:21):
No, but see, I understand what you're saying about they
owed you a debt of gratitude. But I just want
to remind you because I want I'm trying to help
you business wise. Huh, you initially used their product because
you were an endorser, correct of the product?

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Correct? And instead of I don't know, did they give
you money or do they give you trade? Trade?

Speaker 4 (11:42):
So you got the product or endorsement, which is a
good product. Ye?

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Right, because absolutely, and it did save your hate in
my house.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
But but you already had done the ads for the product.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Now, this was a new deal with Alarm dot Com
not even selling silent Guard. This is Alarm dot Com,
this is national. So did you think, like, okay, we're
square for this. Here's a new thing where you're going
to give me a comb over and you're gonna make

(12:18):
me serious. Maybe we have a different view for this one.
Did you think about that.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
You're leaving out the box of doggy toys? I got
a box of doggy too.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
I was thrown in after the fact though. Yeah, that
wasn't even part of the consideration for.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
The deep Even Mitch Barnhardt thinks you're a good negotiating.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
I had no idea if it's gonna be a negotiator.
Excuse me.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I didn't know it's gonna be all over the place
like it has been. I just thought it was gonna
be you know.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
You said they were gonna use it like on brochures. Yeah, yeah, okay,
what's out there now?

Speaker 4 (12:48):
That's one of the things though, that when you do this,
you you ask where are you gonna use because the
more they're gonna use it, the more that should be
in in in Line's pocket.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I probably did not use proper negotiating tactics. I said,
y'all do whatever you want.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Yeah, you started with yeah, do whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Sick we want to you know, threw an ad campaign
with your story. But yeah, whatever, I'll do whatever you
want to do. It's fine.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
They flew a clue a crew in from Boston. Okay,
how much do you think that cost? I'm sure it
wasn't cheap, so maybe they could have given you a
few thousand dollars. They probably paid the crew, paid the crew.
The crew didn't do it for doggie toys, probably not. Airline, flight,
hotel room.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Talent VA's gone from thirty three dollars to zero dollars.
They'll do anything for free.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
I love you, but I feel like if I'm on
a national ad campaign with my face and uh and
Peyton Manning's comb over, then I should you should be
able to get some money.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
That is a handsome looking face right there. That's a
serious handsome face.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
Who's up next, Let's go to Robbie. Robbie, go ahead, Robbie.

Speaker 8 (13:48):
Hey, good morning, guys, home birth as good just call it.
Talk a little bit about football, but I mean everybody's
checked out on football. I mean I watched a little
bit of the Georgia game, but I knew Ardia got
twenty one points. The game was over. We weren't going
to score that much yet that way for the last
several years, it's I mean, it's time for students to go.
I mean, I know we owe him a lot of money,

(14:10):
but we gotta do something else. I mean, everybody's checked out.
Everybody's ready for basketball. We need somebody on the football
side like we have on the basketball side that's dedicated.
True blue Kentucky is gonna put everything that got into
it to make his program. It's not never gonna be
the top of the SEC, but at least you be
competitive and not be the lasting stock of it.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, we can't be definitively the worst team in the SEC.
Appreciate the call, which is what we are now. We're
definitively the worst team. And you could make an argument
that even that, with the exception of like the last
year or two of Joker, we were not normally the
definitively the worst team. But we're definitively the worst team
right now in the conference. And uh, you know, maybe
that changes. I kind of doubt it. I think we're

(14:52):
definitively the worst team. That's got to change. That's the
one thing that that that can't happen. I do think,
for the first time, I will say this for the
first time since these conversations have started taking place, I
do believe that if Mitch Barnhardt decides to make a change,
the money will be there. I've always thought that that

(15:13):
would not be the case. I think if they I
think money is a factor on what they do, for sure,
But the idea, which is what I've had for a
long time, that they just could not raise that money.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
I think they could if they if they felt like
it was the way to go.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
I don't think money. Money is a factor. Don't get
me wrong. It's not that money's not gonna matter. It's
like in baseball they say ty goes to the runner.
Ty go's is going to go to saving thirty seven
million dollars. But if they have to do it, Ryan,
I do think they'll have the money.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Does the buy out money go down after the season,
like is it worth?

Speaker 6 (15:50):
It's like whatever's remaining so over time.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
But that the time it's due in two months.

Speaker 6 (15:57):
No, But I mean if you fired him a year
from now, it would be down a little bit. It's
just seventy percent of what he's owed.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
Yeah, gotcha.

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all day. Tomorrow's Wingsday, so glad to be back going here.
Let's I want to talk to a second on this
fan fest coming up Saturday. Here's the schedule. It's at
the Exhibit Center, so it's at the thing that's attached
to Rapperena.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Opens at noon from twelve thirty to one. Mark Pope will.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Be on the main stage talking then Kenny Brooks comes
after that, then the women's basketball team and then they
will sign autographs, and then the men's basketball team and
they will sign autographs.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
So that's how the day goes.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
I think this is gonna be I think this really
is an awesome event, and I think it's exactly what
UK Basketball and UK Athletics should do more of. And
I hope people go because I think if they do,
you will see more and more of this stuff. You know,
if you're like me and you've kind of said we
need to do more stuff for the common fan, this
is it. It'd be nice if they'd gotten a little
more notice. I mean they announced it on Monday for Saturday.

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But nevertheless, it's happening, and people I hope embrace. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
You know, people missed, you know, the Madness camp out
that was kind of a fan player event.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
This is a good substitution.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
I love this idea, trying to get the fans back
and gauge with the players on the team.

Speaker 6 (18:26):
That's the big thing. At the camp out. You actually
got to connect with the players a little bit. You know.
Every year they'd make the rounds with pizza, they'd show
up play corn Hall with you at your tent if
you were there, and that's been lost the last couple
of years. So this doesn't replace that, but at least
gives you a chance to actually meet the guys instead
of just watching them dance for a moment and play
their practice.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Last night, the Jaguars beat the Chiefs. Liam Cohen is
four and one. Liam Cohen like that is amazing. Is
it a check in Mark Stoop's box that he hired
Liam Cohen one? Or is it an X in his
box that he hired him? And we still the second

(19:06):
he's still the second time didn't have a good offense,
which is.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
I'll give him a check. We're very critical of his
offense and hiring a lot of coordinators. So I've at
least got to applaud him for finding Liam. You know,
I didn't love the way Liam left after he said
he's here to plant roots or whatever it was.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
You can't blame him.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
Yeah, and the time what was in February, But it's
the NFL calling and look where he is now. So
I give Stoops a check for having him, even though
it was short lived.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
I mean, you really can't blame he's done exactly. I mean,
this is why he left was to get a head
coaching job. He's gotten it, and so I don't know
how you could complain at all.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
I give him two checks. Hired the guy twice.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
He came in the first year and with Will Levis
kind of revitalized the program a little bit, a good
shot in the arm. I think he really did good
thing with Devin Learry.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Good Learry. He just was hurt. You know.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
We just kind of struggled through most of that season.
But I give Stoops two check marks for ironing.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yeah, are you are you pulling for him? Like he's
he was here two different times? Are you pulled for Liam?
I'm obviously Josh Haines Allen is on the team as well,
but pulling for.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
Him it's a little different than me. I'm Titan, so
I need them to lose every possible game. I've always
wanted the Jaguars to lose. But I'm not like anti
Liam Cohen. Like I was happy for him last night.
Remember I told you all money line Jaguars last do it?

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Do it?

Speaker 6 (20:16):
I thought, But no, I was genuinely excited for him.
As a division rival. I'm not gonna openly cheer for him,
but I was happy to see him get a big one.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Do you think of that final play where Trevor Lawrence
falls down and then falls down twice and then gets
up and scores a touchdown. That's got to be one
of the craziest endings to a game.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
Of alter goofy little blooper there with twenty five seconds
left to kind of look dead there when he's on
the ground, hops right up. I saw the Manning cast
replay of it too. They were going crazy also thinking
he didn't have a chance.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
The Maning cast was great last night.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
By the way, have you Shandon have you watched the
show where it's like that Eli Manning?

Speaker 5 (20:52):
Has anybody watched that Steve's on plays the coach? I've
heard it's really good.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
What's it called.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
It's called Powers.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Remember they had the commercials where he put on the
fake nose and he acted like he was a quarterback
for Penn State. Yeah, this is a show of that,
and it's got that show off that. Yeah, it's not
I man, and it stars that dude, that Sydney Sweeney,
Glen Glenn Pale.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
Does he look like you when our shirts are off?
People heard that before there? What was that Glen pal, No,
that's true.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
You know, I haven't.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
I've never I've never heard that, but but yeah, so
it's it's I want to watch it if Steve's on plays,
the plays, the coaching.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
I was wondering if it would be good. And I've
had three or four friends who have watched it and
loved it, and there it's getting a lot of Ted
Lasso comparisons. It's kind of a feel good show. So
I'm looking forward to starting it. I just haven't done
it yet.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Well, Josh Allen, by the way, our Josh Allen is
an absolute machine. I mean he really is like he
like if you watch him, the teams have to like
run away from him and when he gets in open space,
forget it. I mean they ran a play where they
didn't block him, and pay Manning was like, are these
people insane? How do you not block him? He's one

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of the five best defensive ends in the in the league.

Speaker 6 (22:07):
He bounced off a block and made a big tackle
in the backfield too late in the game that not
many people could pull off. You know, he's he's special.
We've saw a lot of that here and it hadn't
changed in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeap who's next, Adam, Adam, go ahead at him?

Speaker 9 (22:21):
Hey, what's up?

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Mat?

Speaker 9 (22:22):
Got a half legal question, half u K sports question.
So let's say, you know, Mark Soops doesn't want to
try to take a negotiated buyout. Yeah, what is to
prevent Mitch Barnhardt to say, Okay, well we're going to
give this much to women's basketball, this much to baseball,
all the rest to men's basketball and your nil or nothing.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
You know, nothing would stop him from doing that, except
that would be a really horrible decision. I mean, like
he could. There's nothing that requires schools to give football.
I mean, you could give football nothing in IL if
you wanted to. But I think that would be dumbnes See,
you'd be basically announcing to the world that you don't
care about your program.

Speaker 9 (23:05):
I mean, you know, maybe don't follow through, but you
can make the threat of, like, you know, Mark, if
you don't want to try to take this buy out,
we can we can negotiate.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah. I just think I appreciate it, call it legally.
Is there anything that would stop him from doing it?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
No?

Speaker 4 (23:21):
I mean UK doesn't have to give football anything, but
as a practical matter, that would be cutting off your nose,
I think to spite your face if you were to
do that, We'll take a break and be right back.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
It's Ksorry.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
TJ.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ. He'll make them pay.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.
Here's Matt Jones.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
You know, Shannon, I fought this song for a long time.
Like I just say, this song just feels felt like
the song a kind of song I wouldn't like. And
then all of a sudden, I think I watched a
game and everybody sang it, and now I kind of
really look.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
At mister bright Side is a song I just always funny.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
It was like one of those things that everybody sings
at bars and stuff, and I'm always like, you know,
I don't know, because it would all everybody point at
each other and all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
But now I've given the in this is a great song.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Put it on our set list just because people love
it so much.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
You did a good job with it.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
I heard you the last time I heard you performed
this is the last was you did mister Bright's Side,
and I thought, oh, Shannon does this very well.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
I didn't know you were so anti killers.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
I'm pro it now, but I was anti for a
long time, and then I was like, this is just
a great song and it's gonna last forever, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
Like it's gonna be one of those songs.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
That people are gonna be singing song except for.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
Thirty years, this will be one that they sing.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
I saw a clip just yesterday. I think it was
at the Michigan football game. But there's an elderly man.
I mean, he's gotta be at least eighty, but he
has a printed out piece of paper with the lyrics
of this song. He's holding it at the game so
he can participate.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Is that right? Is it? But it's about drugs? Right,
I've never taken time to.

Speaker 6 (25:02):
Think about it.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
I think it's about an affair, but I could be wrong.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
Oh well, what are the lyrics? Like?

Speaker 6 (25:10):
Well, we got to ask the old man to print
them out.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, hello, there said, what are the lyrics to mister
Bright's side?

Speaker 5 (25:15):
I'm telling you, I think it's it's it's.

Speaker 6 (25:17):
Starts coming out of my cage. I know that much.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah, just fine. Started out with a kiss. How did
end up like this? It was only a kiss. Now
I'm falling asleep. She's calling a cab while he's having
a smoke and she's taking a drag. Now they're going
to bed, and my stomach is sick and it's all
in my head. But she's touching his chest. Now he
takes off her dress.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Now, Oh, so it's about an affair. Okay, all right,
that makes sense. Oh I'm thinking of doctor feel Good. No,
that's good.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, probably about drugs exactly.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Mister Bright's side is about affair, doctor feel Good who
went to you know, he went got more education.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
That's about. That's about. That's real. If I'm nine two
twenty two eighty seven. Listen quick.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
A couple of things in the rest of college football
we didn't get to yesterday. James Franklin's the worst, right, Yes,
he's the worst. Like who's worst? Him or Dabo?

Speaker 6 (26:05):
Oh, James Franklin close race James Franklin easily.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
It's funny.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
People just hate James Franklin so much, even going back
to Vanderbilt when Shannon, when he was Shannon's coach.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Dabo is the worst.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
I think that I'm with you. I put Dafo the worst.
But there are people who really don't. How does he
lose that game?

Speaker 5 (26:21):
UCLA was awful.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
They lost by like twenty to UNLV and thirty to
New Mexico. And then he goes and loses, and not
just loses. They were down huge most of the game.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
And just the fact that nobody was there that and.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
That's what we lit telling factor more than anything.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
Little Sunshine over there calling plays. He couldn't even figure
out how to get the headset to work because he
was in way over his head and he hangs forty
whatever on you.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah, I mean that they look like a child was
calling place for UCLA like that. It'd be one thing
if he lost, because the environment was insane and like
you couldn't hear your self talk, and it was he
lost in an empty Rose Bowl. It was empty and
they still lost.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
You know, Tucky fans don't like the guy because what
happened between him and Mark Stupsin when he was a
coach a Vanderbilt. I think that carries over for a
lot of us are feeling to him today.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
But but he's hated nashvi yea well not just Kentucky,
like everyone seems to take joy in him failing.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
Well, remember it was last season and two years ago
they had a very serious issue at Penn State, and
he stood there and made like the sid take questions
at the podium, like he wouldn't even make a statement
any think a player had done something kind of bad.
But he had like a smirk on his face like
I'm not even gonna address this. And he made some
staff members stand up there and give a statement, what.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
About arch many do we tell obviously we're gonna see
him here in two weeks?

Speaker 5 (27:45):
Are we catching Texas at the right time?

Speaker 6 (27:47):
I said this a few weeks ago that Texas might
be one of the more beatable teams left on the schedule.
I didn't really believe it, but now that they've lost
to Florida that I think they are.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
They I was listening to a podcast where somebody was saying,
like they think the pressure like this, And this wasn't
somebody just spouting off. They said that they had talked
to people at Texas that the pressure of all this
is just too much for him, the pressure of being
a manning being at Texas, all the national attention. Then
he starts and he struggles that first time, and he
kind of gets in his head and then a lot

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of people around Texas are kind of worried that, like
it's just too much pressure.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
I mean, that's what's tough about that.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
There are positives about being a manning, but then there
might be a negative when things don't go well.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
For whatever the reason is that definitely there's something's not
working right. And if he's having some mental issues, you know,
I feel sorry for that.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
They didn't say mental issues, they just said pressure like
it was just But it also like there are other
people said he was never good to begin with. It's
just people just said, well, he's arch maning, so he
must be great.

Speaker 6 (28:44):
That he hasn't panned out and looks like he's not ready.
But their offensive line to be Texas has been terrible.
They're getting a lot of criticism. And then I think
it was Spray or someone this week made the great
point like if arch is this big hosman, why wasn't
he playing last year?

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Yeah, I said that to the end of the year.
What about Belichi?

Speaker 6 (29:01):
I'm loving every second of them.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Whooped, I mean destroyd getting crushed. There was a story
that came out in the local newspaper in North Carolina
yesterday that said the team like hate like all of
the assistant coaches are either his relatives or.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
The GM's relatives, and that like.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
The players really like Belichick, but that they think everyone
else on the staff is a joke and so they
don't listen to them. That Mike Lombardi, who's the GM,
apparently is just hated by everybody. I guess during NIL
when the transfer portal opened as part of their NIL negotiations,
this was a really stupid thing to do. They agreed

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to take like their ten top transfers and to give
them a come. They said their parents would have field
access to the games, they would get their own parking spots,
and then they didn't give the other players that. So
you had a situation where Belichick's guys get different treatment
than the other guys.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
And Ryan it's just led to a.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
I didn't know that part of the story. So, yeah,
you're you're losing Aidel on the field. Sound like you're
losing the locker room too. So things are not gonna
get better anytime soon. If yours let me have divide
down the locker room.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
He has three family members on staff, two sons and
a son in law.

Speaker 6 (30:13):
There's a lot of them. By your girlfriend and a
girlfriend on staff too, So there's a few failed NFL
people in there.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Come back to the big question, is Jordan Hudson dating
Bill Belichick one year from now.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
Considering they're losing. I'm gonna say, yes, you think it's love. No,
I don't.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
But I mean she's just gold Digger.

Speaker 6 (30:33):
Yes, you can do whatever she wants right now. I wouldn't.
She she'll launch a new perfume. Uh, they'll have everything.
I mean, she's trying to trademark gold Digger. This is
this is a long term business plan.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
But I mean, is it still like she's not gonna
get a lot of attention if they stink? Like if
he's gone at the end of the year.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
That bank accounts still got money in it.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
Maybe date Pete Carroll.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
Yeah, move on to the next round.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
That's a good question. Who would be the coach she
could go to?

Speaker 6 (31:00):
Reid retires, He's got the Super Bowls, Wow, got the
trophy cabinet.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
I think she's she moves to listen.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
I would respect her if she moves from Belichick to
Andy Reid.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
Just so obvious. Soon as Andy retires, I met him
on a plane and he signed my book.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah, Nick Saban comes back. Well, no, everybody likes his wife.
I know, I don't know Miss Terry. We can't be
doing that to Miss Terry.

Speaker 6 (31:24):
What about Belichick not letting him acknowledge Drake May on
social media?

Speaker 5 (31:28):
That's all so crazy.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
You know, you have the who's the only North Carolina
football player who's an important North Carolina football player in history?

Speaker 5 (31:36):
Peppers Julius Peppers. Okay, did LT go there?

Speaker 6 (31:41):
Where did LT go? That's a little before me.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
I think l T went to North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
But point being, Drake May could end up being one
of your best and the fact that you won't acknowledge
him because he plays for the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Ryan, that's really petty, very petty. You're trying to promote
your program. This kid came out of your program. I
don't care who he plays for.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Now. He's said the starter the NFL. He started quarterback,
LT and C and we have three? So we have three?
All right, who's next? David? Go ahead? David?

Speaker 7 (32:09):
Hey, Matt, what do you see or do you see
these coaches contracts changing going forward? What I get at
is performance based. I mean Mark stops. I like Stops.
He's brought us up here. I think he's banging his
head against the ceiling at this point. But the bocracy
of him saying I'm not leaving. What does he not
go to his If he gets a running back that

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ain't Payton at our quarterback he wants to, he'll encourage
him getting transferreportal he winter spot, but he won't move around.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
Well.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Coaches have always been hypocritical. I mean, coaches believe they
get to do one thing and players don't. We've talked
about that. Coaches think they should be able to break
contracts go to other schools, but if players transfer, that
means they're weak and blah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Coaches have always been hypocritical.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
I do think that the change to the new NIL
is going to make it to where coaches contracts are
not going to be as much money. They're just not
I don't know that they'll that's right, you go ahead.

Speaker 7 (33:04):
I want to hit you in the business sense, But yeah,
I just wonder if as everyone to change that trending
because they hold all the power now and just like
they hold schools hostage.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
The years of and I appreciate the call, the years
of coaches getting eight year deals for twelve million dollars
a year. I think that's going away. I mean, I think,
you know, Nick Saban of the World might be able
to get that.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
But the year, the days of.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Giving Jimbo Fisher that and James Franklin that, Mark Stoops that,
I just don't think people are gonna do it anymore. Ryan,
I think you're they're gonna go, look, we got to
put our money in the players. Plus there's there's a
new generation of young guys that you don't have to
pay as well that might be just as good.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
So I think that's what you're gonna say, and.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
That's what we're gonna see programs like well, Kentucky, you
know you can save a lot of money. If you've
got to hire a John summer All for next season,
you know you're gonna save a lot of money.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Well, forget about like just take somebody like will Stein
for a second.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
I mean, would you rather have Let's just leave Mark
Stoops out of it, because I don't want it to
be just about him. Take Eli drink A Witz. If
you're Missouri and Eli drinking Witz comes and says, I
want ten million dollars a year, but you could go
get Will Stein for three and a half million. Are
you gonna lock yourself into an eight year deal with

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Eli Drinkowitz. Are you gonna say, maybe I'll try.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
One of these young up and comers.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
It would be hard to do, but the smart thing
would be an up and comer, because as we've seen
with both coaches here at Kentucky and basketball and football lately,
there's just a shelf life on coaching, no matter how
good you have it.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
I also think we're gonna look back and say that
the NIL portal era.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
Was a change.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
It's like two completely different sports when it happened. I
said the biggest change in the history of college sports
was integration. Like for me, college sports is before integration
and after integration. Well, I think the second biggest is
gonna be before NIL and after in Ale and I
think there were coaches, if you go back and read history,

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who simply could not coach after integration.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
They did not know how to do it.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
I think you're gonna end up with a set of
coaches who when they come to ani out, they just
didn't know how to do it. And so you're gonna
see this whole We're already seeing it. Massive group of
coaches move out and then this new group that embrace
it and understand what it is and do it move
in and that's gonna be the future of the sport.

Speaker 6 (35:25):
And just the sports changing with your roster makeup, like
the days where Alabama would have a third string linebacker
being an NFL draft pick. You just can't stalk polem
like you used to. So you're your first team's got
to be great because anybody you have that's sitting on
the bench, if they're good enough, they'll find a place
to go play if you just don't have depth like
you used to.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
What's impressive to me are the coaches who were good
before this and after this.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
That to me is really Lane Kiffin.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Lane Kiffin was good before, he's found a way to
transition to be good after. I think it's gonna be
I but think about it. How many of those guys
are out there. How many dudes that were really good
in twenty fifteen or twenty seventeen are still good in
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
Just look at it.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Look at all the failures we're seen or the disappointments,
they all have one thing in common. They're older guys
who are really good before the port. How many people
are you seeing that are gonna be that are really
good before and after? I mean, can he give me one?
Just think about football and basketball. Who's really good before
and after?

Speaker 5 (36:30):
That's a great question.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
I'm just sitting here trying to think Bill Sealth, although
he hasn't killed it in the last two or three years.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
Well, I was gonna add, you know, not using names,
but any coach that was already paying before in il
and there are a lot of them, they're now struggling
that it's just out in the open because that was
their advantage.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
I think you are exactly right.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
Their advantage was paying even though what we don't like
to admit that happen was pretty widespread.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Just think about if I were to have said to
you seven years ago, who are the best coaches in
college basketball? Jay Wright gone, Roy Williams gone, Mike Krzyzewsky gone,
Tony Bennett gone, Bruce Pearl gone, right, Tom Izzo going.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
Probably in the near future, Cal.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Probably going to you know, who might be one that's
in that group?

Speaker 5 (37:16):
Rick Patino? Yeah, Rick Patino might.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Be one who actually found a way Ryan to do
it both ways.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
I think Rick Patino may be our best answer because
he was successful before nil and now he found a
way to be successful after in IL. I think football
Kirby Smart, would you put him in that category?

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Yes, Kirby Smart, I think is in the Kirby Smart
is one for sure. But even the guys like Ryan
Day and the guy at Oregon Landing, Kaitlin de Boor,
they're all kind of coming to their strength after in
Ile if they're not guys that were doing it before.
So just an interesting thing. I don't know if that'll

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Speaker 4 (38:33):
If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven
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a lot of people on fall break. Right right now
is this fall break?

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Last week was a lot of fall breaks. But I
think she's like our folks are. It's been town. They're
on fall break this week.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
So, uh, you guys are welcome to be here. It's
time for Draft Kings. Let's do a pick. I guess
we got baseball tonight. DraftKings. Go to DraftKings dot com,
go to your dk app, put in the promo code KSR,
make your pick. Uh, let's see. The Yankees are down
too old to the Blue Jays. Do they get one
tonight or do they get swept? And the Yankees be out?
Yankees win tonight. They're home not getting swept. I think

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my guy's pitching. The dude I can't pronounce.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
Yeah, Schlitzler, Schlittler.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
No, it's Carlos rodon So that's I know him. But
Schlittler is pitching to.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
The potential elimination game in Yankee Stadium. Yankees, get this
one tonight, yep.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
Go with the Yankees.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
I'm gonna go with the Yankees tonight hopefully then get
a game four and then we'll we'll we'll see weird
group of teams in the AL with the Tigers, the Mariners,
and the Blue Jays.

Speaker 5 (39:44):
One of them is gonna end up in the World Series.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
I'm gonna I've been running some underdogs lately, as you've
heard on the show. I think I'm gonna take Tiger's
money line in the first game today. They're they're a dog. Yeah,
but they're home right, Yeah, they're home, all right, home dog.
Who's up next?

Speaker 5 (39:57):
Let's go to ed, Ed, go ahead? Ed?

Speaker 9 (40:01):
Hey, I got three questions for you, man, Well, give
me your best all a's that time? What game do
you think we have the best chance for U set?

Speaker 4 (40:14):
I think the best chance for an upset for the
rest of the season is still Florida. I know they
beat Texas, but I think you getting them in November.
They're coming where it's cold. They don't do that a lot.
Hopefully we haven't quit yet.

Speaker 5 (40:27):
Now.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
I mean, Texas is more of a chance than we
would have ever thought. You know, if they play Oklahoma
this week and lose, their season's basically over. So maybe
the whole thing collapses for them the next week. But
if I were to if you were to say, well,
let me actually, let me switch that best chance to
win on the road at Vandy. Still, even though I

(40:48):
think Vandy's good, I think that's your best chance because
you still have more talent than them, even if you
don't win. And then I would say, home, Florida, what
about you. I don't think we stand a chance at Vandy.
I think they're more talented almost every where. Unfortunately, Really,
you don't.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
Think we don't have a chance.

Speaker 6 (41:03):
No, I think if a team gets to twenty points,
we've lost. And Van Dey's gonna get twenty points. Wow, Okay,
I will say Texas, which seems crazy, only because it's
right in front of us. I know it's stoops after
a bye week.

Speaker 5 (41:16):
Stoops after a bye week is not a strength.

Speaker 6 (41:18):
Florida would be my pick, but it's so late in
the year. I worry we're gonna have guys buying hot
dogs again if they don't start winning before that. Game
gets here, so a matchup, I go Florida, but Texas,
being more recent still inspired at the moment, I'll say
that's the time.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
I will say this.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
If we lose to Texas and Tennessee back to back,
which is very likely, the next game, I believe is
what at Auburn. That's the game where if it goes poorly,
we quit. That's what worries.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
I think if you lose to Texas in Tennessee and
then you go to Auburn and get blown out, I
think this whole thing just.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
Completely falls apart.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
He lost the locker room last year. That happens again.
He loses the locker room beginning, you had to make
a change.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Now, with that said, if you win one of those games,
then you go, oh, we still play Vandy in Louisville.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
Maybe we can make a ball. I mean, that's Louisville's
a winnable game. Florida.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
I mean, this schedule is awful, but it's not as
awful now as it looked at the beginning of the year.
I mean, it looked worse at the beginning of the
year than it is right now. Drew, you know, I
completely agree, but I think the team. Our own team
is much worse than I expected. Yeah, I agree with that,
so I'm just down.

Speaker 6 (42:32):
Like, obviously they look bad, but hearing the coaches comments,
they seem to not have any answers themselves.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
So hey, thank you all very much. It was good
to see you. By the way, thanks for everybody for
being back. Our episode of Cover zero is out. Also,
there's an article about the growth of KSR and about
us for our twentieth anniversary. I'll link it later today
you can read. It's a really good profile. Just came
out a few minutes ago. We will see you later.
This is being Kentucky Sports Radio.