October 13, 2025 • 41 mins
Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk Big Blue Madness, college football coaches fired, and your calls.
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
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After a big weekend, our last weekend with no games
(01:18):
until April, Uh, Drew, you went to a wedding in Colorado?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
How was that?
Speaker 5 (01:23):
I had a great time. I was a groomsman from
my brother in law. Congrats to Michael and Becca, but
you know, a little winded after got back late last night.
Literally went from the airport to right here to do
coverzero with you all.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
You came in hot, ready to rock. Uh. Congrats to
Michael on his wedding.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I think you said, uh that what was the theme
of the wedding?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
There was really a theme, but I think you might
be talking about how the Broncos played at seven am
and I wanted they played in London. Yeah, I wouldn't
being a part of that. It was just a nice
There wasn't really a theme, but it's just a nice,
beautiful wedding. Black tucks, bow tie tucks.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Busy days a groomsman, though we had a fun time.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I have to put on pants today, so I understand
what you're going through. Yeah, a big day when you
gotta wear pants, Well, I mean like real pants with
like buttons and a belt. Because I'm doing the Ford Center,
I'm moderating. Uh, yes, so you a haircut?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
No?
Speaker 6 (02:17):
I thought you mind when it looks sharp, get a haircut.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Look, you're the only person that before a big day
cuts his hair down to nothing. No, I'm just because
it's a normal thing. Like I'm not the star of
the show. There are other people there. I just have
to introduce some and then get them to talk to
each other about it. And I had to do some
research last night. Have to do some more today on
pants event. No, just the state of Iti I want
(02:41):
because I'm supposed to give ten minutes eight excuse me,
seven to eight minutes summary to start of the transition
from amateurism to Nile.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
It's kind of.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Hard, huh, Like, how did you get into this one?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
They used to ask me, because I think the combination
of law awe and me doing sports and then moderating.
Now I can see why they why they pick but
like that's a tough thing to do.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Go five years ago, we were paying no nobody. Now
we can just pay whatever we want. How did that happen?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Is this something that we could stream online and watch
it extreamed.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I've had a lot of people asking you can go
see it. I know it's at the Singletary Center at UK.
It's at five point thirty. It's opened the public. I
think I don't know how many people are going to
be there. I think that they said the room holds
three fifty. But on your panel it is a woman
from the NCAA commission, a dude who represents a bunch
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of athletes, and your guy Mark's story.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Oh, the Harald.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Leadersh nice love Mark story stars So big night over
it though over on campus.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah, let's watch out. It's gonna be when you see
the crowd. That's what's gonna be going on. Well, a
lot of stuff to get to. I think the two
big stories big Blue Matt Madness Saturday, and then I
think the firing of James Franklin yesterday has led to
conversations about here. Those I think those are probably the
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two big things. So let's start with something positive. I
don't want to be like Mario and always negative. Let's
start with let's start with Big Blue Madness. All right,
I'm gonna go on record and say this is, in
my opinion, one of the best Big Blue Madness is
in many years.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I mean, I think you have to go back.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Last year was exciting because it was Pope's first one
Rick Patino. But if I asked you to remember something
that happened besides Rick Patino, can you remember it now?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Mark Stoop's coming out in flexing.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Oh yeah, on the football field.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
On the football field, that's right, and then that was
all going south at that moment.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yeah, it doesn't because they'd just beaten Old Miss Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
But I think this one gives us a bunch of
moments that people will remember.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Number one, they had like two I think they had
three things they wanted to do. Okay, they got one
of them done, But to me, it was the one
that was most important.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I think they wanted to do something with a horse.
That was the one.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
After that, I knew that they were trying to do
wall in the horse. The third one I found out
later I'm not gonna say because we'll leave that for
another time, but I knew they were trying to do
wall on the horse, and they still weren't sure Wall
was going to get here, and then they weren't sure
about the horse. The horse ended up not working out Wall.
I think they didn't know for sure was getting here,
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am I right until early in the afternoon.
Speaker 8 (05:32):
Yeah, that's why you and I kind of hinted at
it at the show on Friday, But there was no
guarantee even on Friday that he was gonna make it
to Madness on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
What if instead of John Wall coming up on the rise,
or it was just a horse.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
And just a random horse, just a horse, just a horse,
a horse.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
And then the horse comes up and then just looks
at everybody and just takes a.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Big dune right there on the thing.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
What was that?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I never heard? Why were they thinking we're not sure
Wall was gonna be able to get there.
Speaker 8 (06:03):
I think it was just travel logistics. I think it's
what it was, trying to make sure he got here
in time.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Well, he gets here, and that's a great moment, right,
I mean, isn't that a great moment? Just to even
though I knew it was coming, the moment ice cream
Paint Job plays, you can just hear the crowd get excited,
and even though he only did this twice.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
He didn't do it very long.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Well, I mean he's probably like you know, now he's
in his mid thirties, you still want me to do this.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I still thought it was great. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
I wasn't able to watch live, but I just saw
a picture of John Wall with his arm up on
top of the set on that platform, and it kind of,
i'll say, gave me chili bumps.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
It kind of got you feeling. It's just a still
image of it.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You're recreating the best thing that's happened at Big Blue Madness,
and John Wall Is still is a guy who can
still connect the ages. Yeah, like old fans lik him,
younger fans, and then even people who'd weren't who were
kids or didn't weren't even paying attention when he played,
they still know that that happened.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I just thought that was that couldn't have been better.
I loved it.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
You know, they do the recreate the whole thing of
him coming up on the riser doing the John Wall
dance place going crazy. You're right though, but even for
like old guys like me, young guys like Mario, John Walls,
like the centerpiece has kind of made Kentucky basketball relevant
again and we'll never always appreciate you think.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
He's like, to some extent, is he the face.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Of like Kentucky players. So like when I was a
kid and you were to say Kentucky basketball players.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You probably would have said, like Macy.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
It didn't work for me, although I think a little
people a little older than me were like that about Macy.
I was probably Rex and to some extent Kenny Walker
I think was a little bit of that to me.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
And then I think it was Mashburn for a long time,
don't you.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Yeah, for sure, I kind of think it's John Wall now,
don't you Even though Anthony Davis was is better and
all that, I still think it's kind of John Wall,
isn't it.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Oh, I definitely think it's John Wall. I mean, Anthony
Davis got the title, but Davis, I mean, he's not
that Walden wouldn't have big NBA star, But you know Davis,
some people associate him as a Lakers champion. People think
John Wall and the University of Kentucky. No one thinks
the Wizard.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
And it's kind of helped that that six four from
Kentucky has stuck with him forever. And like I think
even nationally, when people think John Wall, they think of that, right,
they think of that moment.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
And you're pointing about young people don't even remember it
or weren't alive for it or watching. It's almost like
you feel like, well, I have to have this connect.
It's like a part of being a Kentucky fan.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
No I think he is the player connection for Kentucky.
So having him there with it, and then I thought,
I thought that the Trent Noah think having Jordan Smiths
sing and having him pop.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Up, I thought that was I was great.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I mean, we're I think there's a part of me
that's like, we're never leaving Harlan alive.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
We're like, I think we got plenty of that now,
Like we're doing it at the football games.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
I mean we're doing it, but walk up for a picture.
It's a lot. It's a lot because that's an old song.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I don't know that we just all resurrected it all
of a sudden, But I thought, in that circumstance and
especially having this kid sing it, who's from Harlan and
who was on was he on the Voice or American
Idol or one of the two.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I thought that was neat then, you know, having the fan.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Fest, Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna get later have Mario
talk about because he went to it. I didn't go
to it, but just having that event, I think was
just made it great and it felt like a real celebrate,
day long celebration of UK fandom drew, which is what
you want.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I wasn't there, but I saw enough of it to
kind of understand how it went. It seemed that they
just thought of so many things. I mean, you had
our friend Billy from True Blue Customs at a station
painting shoes. Obviously you're meeting. I heard Pope went over
game film. You know, my guy Aaron broke down game
film for thirty straight minutes. My guy Aaron Kaiser's in
their painting. It's not like they just rolled out one
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thing and said, come look at this. It seemed like
you could make a whole day out of it, and
that they considered just about everything they could think of.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
Play one on one with Khalil Whitney and the on
one side on the basketball court, that was cool.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
What you could play one on one with. He was
just there, challenging.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
He was there, and you could play a little one
on one again, and then.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
You should have come and challenge Khalil Whitney one on one.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
He doesn't want to smoke, I'll cross him over, and.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
They kind of the dragon to do.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
I thought it was great.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yeah, And then you know, I thought I heard from
a lot of people that went that the in game stuff,
the in arena stuff was much better. They had two
new people doing it. I don't know, they're apparently NBA people,
but they brought actual entertainers to end the entertain the
crowd and it worked. Here's a hint. Get people who
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do that to do it, and it worked. I thought
the tea I watched the TV broadcast. I thought the
new guy Noah.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Noah Robbie and George A. Moore that was a good combination.
I think George Amore is great.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I think she's like.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
She's gonna add a lot of the women's broadcast.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
She is she doing the women's broad I think.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
She's doing some of them.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yes, she'll be good at it.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Like I thought she for somebody who's just graduated college,
she was really comfortable at it.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
And you know, then the three point contest was cool.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
And then Colin Chandler wins dunk contest with John Wall
throwing in the ball.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I mean, I just think for you, for an event
that is hard.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
To reinvent every year and has taken a lot of
criticism over the years, I thought they did a really
really good job.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Yeah, it sure seems like it. What is the I
don't know when they aired it, but I've seen this
new clip it's like two and a half minutes long
on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
That is amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
So their new intro video with the players, I mean,
this is the part the Pope regime gets I'm not seeing.
Cal didn't realize like Cal was good to the players
the past, but for him, history in terms of what
he marketed started with John Wall.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Correct, right, Yep.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
He respected the other guys, but he was like, Okay,
thank you guys, we're marketing wall on right.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Mark Pope's got a little bit of everything. Yes, you
know he he that video it shows players watching moments
from the past. Huh right.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
One of them's looking at Oscar, one of them's looking
at Wall, one of them's looking at Rex. You know,
like like that's cool. I think that's that's very cool.
And that intro video, if you haven't seen it, that
they're gonna play that at the games this year.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
Apparently it was a great It was fantastic And you're right.
If Cal was still here, that video would would have
just been his players. Yes, Pope gets it, understands what
the history of this program means and these old players
mean to all that.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
And I am a complete and total sucker for putting
old UK highlight to me.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, I mean, I'm just a sucker.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
You can put any song you just start showing, and
because because what happens is with that, especially the older
I get. I see all those moments and I just
think of where I was, huh for all of them.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
It's and when you put music on it, Dude, I
am a grown man and that stuff brings me to
tears every single time. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous that seen.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
You know when when uh in twenty fourteen when they
all jump on Aaron Harrison and they're you know, that
shouldn't have that effect on me, but it always does, Drew,
And every time they do one, I love it me too.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
And on stuff like that with Kentucky basketball, the sapier
of the music, the better, I agree. You know, my
football highlights I need some. I need some beats, some
probably some rap music. But the Kentucky basketball highlights just
make me cry.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
If you want to play stated like it's the first
time I've seen them, you know, like, oh, is that
ball going to go in?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
When Patrick's first? It's crazy.
Speaker 8 (14:04):
Like other people across the country don't get it. You know,
we watch, we watch a video like that, and it
plays with our emotions so much, like I said, moves
you to tears.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
You get chilling.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
But other people can't appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Because I do think it's because you think, at least
I do, of parts of your life that were these moments.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Right. I can remember exactly where I was when Scott
Paget hit that three against Duke. I can see myself
in that situation, Yeah right, I can, you know I can.
I can see myself when those two dudes, when Walt
Cousins and Wall hugged each other in Nashville at the
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SEC tournament after that shot. I mean, I remember where
I was sitting in that and you just go through
all of them.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I just thought they did an excellent job.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
And I do want to say I'm very harsh sometimes
on forgetting the common fan, et cetera. I know the
things say had some hiccups with people not being able
to get autographs, the mere fact that they did it,
everyone should praise amen. In twenty twenty five, where it's
all where there's just month, they want money, money, money, money,
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money in college sports.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
To have a completely free event that rewards the people
that get there the earliest two hours before they opened up, allows.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Them to interact. See all this brings all the disparate
parts of our fan base. The UK basketball people deserve
all the credit in the world for doing that. And
that to me starts at the top of Mark Pope,
who prioritizes things like this.
Speaker 8 (15:38):
You could tell that he it's important to him to,
you know, bring that fan base back and let us
know it's it's our program. It's not just the coaches program,
it's everybody's program.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So I thought that was I thought that was a
great day.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven
text machine seven seven two seven four five two five four,
we will take a break and be right back to KSR.
Welcome back, Take you. Sports Radio also had a couple
other things. You had the Jasper Johnson doing the six
seventh didn't knowdle this weekend, he was part of making
that a trend. How did I not know that I
(16:10):
literally did the trend? How did I not know one
of our players was part of getting that going? That
him and what was it? Take Anny take Any. You're
the show's TikToker. You're supposed to have all the TikTok
sow I said six seven. Didn't even know what was
a thing. And then people are like, oh, you know
the trends, and I was like, what, I still don't
know what it means.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I think it means nothing.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
It does mean nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
But they did that in the intro. I didn't even know.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I did not know all this weekend that we had
a player that was like part of that.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
I knew take Any did a story about it. I
knew about to take any connection. I guess I could
have associated that Jasper was probably around the room at
that time because it was an ote, but I didn't
know Jasper had.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Had no idea.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
One person writes on the text machine, Matt uh, I
know I'm old and probably grumpy, but John Wall doesn't
do anything for me.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Well, you are old and grump.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
How can you be a Kentucky fan and say that
john Wall doesn't say.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
That, you're just being in a contrarian. If john Wall
doesn't do anything for you, then you don't. I'm not
gonna say you don't love this, but you're just being
a grump because I I will contend until the day
I die. There's never been a more fun year of
college basketball at Kentucky one. I know we didn't win,
(17:25):
but that was the greatest rock Star year ever.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Ever, you're the ninety two team, there's a special sentimentality
to that year, right, Yes, twenty fifteen there was a
greatness component.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Twenty twelve. We obviously won the title. Ninety six.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
We were dominant, but if you're just talking fun, Ryan,
they'll never be a year as fun as that was.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
One fun. I mean, that was the book that Aaron
Towita was right.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
It was fun. One of the most would you agree,
most fun year ever?
Speaker 8 (17:58):
You're right, it's a shame they didn't win title. They
deserved it, but it was so much fun. You know,
the magic Johnson showing up in a game. You know,
all these people that wanted to come with Lebron just
to see this phenomenon that was going on.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Get on here, really quick. Tell tell me Mario you
were there. How was the fan fast?
Speaker 9 (18:14):
It was really cool, man, I really enjoyed it. I
would say, like for the most part, I'm glad it
was free. Like they was giving out tattoos. You know,
So who got tattoos? Like, I'll probably say sixty over
sixty people. It was a long line tattoos crazy like
UK logos like the state outline with BBN in the
middle of it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
It was just sixty people got tattooed. More than sixty.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Somebody got down tattoo on.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I saw somebody getting ls.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Down gonna yells up because it els down on their arms.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
They didn't think that went through.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Maybe they didn't.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
What about the Kenny Brooks autograph tattoo? Yeah, somebody got
a Kenny Brooks audi see that.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
What were people happy there?
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
They were?
Speaker 9 (18:54):
There was static like they had five on five like
a basketball court where fans could play like Whitney Darius Miller.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Like everybody was just having a good time. Yeah, I'll
tell you another cool thing they did.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
They did this row where they let all the UK
podcasts do it. I remember, like, I know what that
would have been like when I got started. If UK
in two thousand and six had let me come and
do podcasting from the thing. That's very cool of them
to do, and so a lot of people who don't
ever get to do that got to do that.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
Yeah, that was that was incredible overall. Man, I was
just I was surprised how so many people like came
like two hours before.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
There's a whole line like wrapped around there.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
There was a line all the way down to the
park to gatt And Park. I'm serious, it wrapped all
the way down around into the park.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Yeah, clearly it was a hit on the podcast thing.
That was good for young and up and comers. Also,
the local media here lately just felt like we don't
get much like we've seen all the national people get
to come in and see practice. Sometimes local media is like, hey,
we're over here too. I thought that was big and
just giving them access and letting them be a part
of something where a lot of times, as we know,
they kind of try to keep it all in house.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
So all right, so let's talk just a second about
the basketball.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
I know you can't draw too much into it, but
as people saw it pro day in this this is
a team that can shoot Trenton.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Noah may be the best shooter I've seen in my lifetime.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
The dude due, The dude just doesn't mean whoa whoa.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Mean a little you know, a little hYP purpole there,
but hypurpoly hiph purplely h purple?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
What is high purplely?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Is that like it's a special kind of high hyper.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Bowl Its color high purply? Yeah? Not purplely?
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Yes, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
One.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
I's got to go into coffee table book.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Mike, go ahead, Mike boy, Yes, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
So I got two things. One, you know, I just
moved to Miami. So I wanted to say kill for
providing a great show every day that I can always
tune into at work. It's been a good, steady thing,
that kind of cutch allized consistence. I thank you all
for that.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
You're welcome.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
And second of all, you know with the Jeris Franklin stuff.
You know, I see some people.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I'm gonna let you finish, but just note thirty minutes
that people are ready to talk about stoops. I mean,
you're just ready. I know Jerry's next. I know he's
gonna do the same thing. I was trying to get
some basketball joy in, but let's just get to James
frank But go ahead.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
I mean, he deserved to be fired obviously, but like
you know, I see people on Twitter saying should we
look at him? But you know, I think it's inevitable
like that, we know that we're going to be moving
on from Mark Soups very soon. If I mean, maybe
it's next year, maybe it's this year, but it will
be coming. And I feel like our next candidate have
to be somebody who's done more with less rather than
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less with more, like somebody like James Franklin or one
of these other coach at the big I don't.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Think anybody, and I appreciate call I don't want James Franklin.
I don't think that's I don't think Kentucky wants to
do that. Plus, why would you want to get a
guy who you're paying your buyout and you're paying Penn
States by Because if we hire them, we're gonna end
up paying Penn States by, right, So why would you
want to do that? But I guess we have to
talk about stoops because I know these callers. I was
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trying to get a little basketball. Joy's went to the
rest of it. We'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
TJ. Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
He'll make them pay.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
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Speaker 4 (22:38):
And we're laughing about, you know, Keenland's going on, which
just makes all of social media videos of people walking
in and out of Keenland.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Like, I just I can't Why is that a thing?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I can't do it? All these people make videos like
they're the guest of honor everywhere they go. It just
makes me romise. I mean, you want to go to Keenland,
take pictures with you and your friends, That's fine. You're
a woman, you look good, put it up. You boys,
you got suits on. I'm good with all that. But
when they create videos of them walking in and like
gazing at the horses, and like, I'm just like, just
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just take yourself a little less.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Seriously, please, just a little bit.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I don't want any video of me leaving Kim. In fact,
if you have one of those deleted.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
It probably won't be good. All right, let's just before
we go the phones, let's just do quickly. H football,
So James Franklin gets gets fired. It's gonna be a
fifty million dollar buyout. It's gonna be the second highest
buyout ever paid. It was James frankl just the record
Penn State loss back to back games as a twenty
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point plus favorite. No team since nineteen ninety three has
ever done that in a year. He did it in
back to back weeks. So he gets fired. Fifty million dollars.
By the conversation here immediately goes to stoops. Obviously, couple
differences I think are important. Number One, Penn States is
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not due immediately to do over the course of his contract,
so really they owe ten million dollars a year. That's
a big difference. Big difference, big difference. Mitch Barnhardt, no
matter what happens with this whole thing, having two contracts
with top coaches where we had to pay the buy
out within a month was a massive disaster and he
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deserves a lot of criticism for that. And the next
time I interview him, I'm gonna ask you about it.
I don't know how you do that. It's a huge mistake.
I don't know if any other school in the country.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Even has that.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
I ask you, has that ever been happened.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I'm not I'm sure there are other ones.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I don't know of any All these people that have
been fired, Jimbo Fish and all those they haven't had it.
We're the only one that's had it amongst these guys.
That now makes five major football programs that have already
fired their coach and more coming. Virginia Tech, UCLA, Arkansas,
Oklahoma State, and now Penn State. All programs, by the way,
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they have had more success than we've have.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Yeah, there's more coming.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Yeah, there's more coming.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I mean, Florida pretty decent chance, Boston College, Maryland, I
mean there's more coming. Who knows, Auburn maybe.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
So we're gonna this is gonna be a hard time
to go find a coach if we have to go find.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
A coach, because those other jobs are a better job
than the Kentucky job.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yes, and there's only so many people out there who
are gonna want to be hired. Then on the same weekend,
Kurt Signetti takes Indiana and they beat Oregon on the road,
which of course leads people to go, well, if Indiana
can do it, why can't we. So not a good
weekend if you're Mitch Barnhard or Mark Stoops, would you
agree with that?
Speaker 7 (25:46):
No?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
And uh, you know, five days ago, maybe three days ago,
probably thought quite a little weekend, a little bit of
bye big blue madness is gonna have everyone's attention. We
won't even be mentioned. Then we'll focus on Texas next week.
But the James Franklin thing almost like it just got
people fired up again, even though UK nothing has changed
on the UK side, and over a week it just
got people. Situation is different than them. I mean, we
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don't have the money they have.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Now.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
There was a report that Adidas is paying the buyout
that Adida says that is false.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
They're not paying the buyo. I tend to believe them.
Why would Adidas?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
I thought that too when I saw the tweet. They
would want them to be good.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
But they're not going to pay a forty fifty I mean,
they just signed like a five hundred million dollars deal.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
They're not gonna pay a fifty million.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Dollars byle But ours being due up front, Ryan is
why it's different.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
That's why I ask you this has ever happened before?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I don't know of any time it's ever happened. I'm
not saying it hasn't, but I don't know of any time.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
And what was the purpose for Barnhart to think that
was a good idea At the time, you didn't think
that Stoops was never going to leave or not.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Has a great agent and Barnhardt. Some would consider this
a compliment, some would not. I think he intentionally gives
pro coach contracts. Look at all of our coaches. They
all have contracts that are very friendly. Even the ones
that have been very successful, all have very positive I mean,
Mark Pope, I'm glad we did this, but we paid
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him probably more than we needed to.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I'm okay with it.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, but we paid him what five and a half
six million dollars? I mean he was making what two
you know, I mean you just like that's what we do.
And you know Pope would have crawled on glass to
get him.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
He was probably.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I mean MinJe Ones played very very well. Kenny Brooks
has paid very very well. Craig Skinners paid very very well.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
And when it's looked like it's not working, he's very patient.
And it's worked for people like Minjeo, it's worked for Minios.
But then he probably gave what's her name our last
women's we probably gave Kyra Alsey one more year.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Than than than you would have otherwise. So you know.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
So with that said, do you think he's going to
give Stoops more time?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Well, this is a different situation. I mean, I mean,
we gotta see what the next six weeks. But how
can you give him more time if they're three and nine? Seriously,
I don't know how you bring you back at the three.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
You can't. What are you gonna argue? What's the argument
that it's gonna.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
Work coming off well, a four wins season last year
and you come back with three wins?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Yeah you can.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
It's not It's not a one off three and isn't
exactly that was last year. The one off year was
last year, not this one. So yeah, Michael, go ahead, Michael.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Not so much doom in gloom.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
But a question I've been pondering and pondering with football
is what's the shelf life of Cutter? How long does Cutter?
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I sit that say this with love and I don't.
I like Cutter and I think he can be good here.
It doesn't matter. You do not make your choice based
on Cutter bowling. He's I hope he ends up good here.
I think he still can if we have a new
coach come in and they like Cutter, I'd love to
see Cutter's day. But Cutter, to me, as much as
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I like him, is relevant to whatever choice you make
at the end of the year. This is not Tim Couch,
where you've got a dude who's gonna be the number
one overall pick in the draft and you consider what
he wants before you go. Cutter is along for whatever
ride we go on, and in the portal era, you
don't have to have Cutter because you can go get someone.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
True true. All right, well, thank you for helping you
agree with that.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
I wanted to work with Cutter, and I hope whenever
this happens that he's a part of what's next. But also,
if you make the right coaching hire a guy that's
good and got a little swag to him, he's probably
gonna want his own guy, even if he likes Cutter.
That's just the nature of the business. They usually bring
in their own people.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Justin Rowland made a good point online that I want
to talk about. But let's take one more callum than
I want, because I want to expand on something. He
said David. Go ahead, David, are you doing that? What's
going on?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
David Good?
Speaker 10 (29:54):
I love that big blue madness. The other I brought
back memories when joh Log did the dance and I'm.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
To see Tubby there too?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Yes, how did how did I forget that? Having Tubby
there was also excellent?
Speaker 10 (30:06):
You're exactly right, Yeah, Greg, last week you were talking
talking about anime and Death Note and One Piece, and
I'm I'm gonna suggest this. You don't have to watch
the the anime on Netflix. But there is a lie
actually One Piece Shove that'll that is shorter and it
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has one season and the second season.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
On the way.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I'm gonna stick with Death Note. I've watched one episode,
liked it. I'm as watch two or three this week.
I'm gonna stick with that One Piece. I saw somebody
was on TV saying it was like, who was it
the dude? Who's what's the name of the dude with
all the vasoline on his face that's trying to take
over the world?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
What what do those words mean? Good grief? There's a
guy it's always on TV and he's greasy.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Hey, I guy, he's isn't really involved in politics.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Peter feel. Okay, here's the guy that said we don't
need humans anymore. I know the part. Oh he's very Vasillini.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Yeah, I didn't know that part.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
He's very greasy all the time anyway, Vassolini guy. He
said that one piece was a metaphor for like the
anti Christ and all this stuff. And I was like,
I don't want to watch this too much.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
It's not it's not yeah, I just want to.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Watch I just want to watch Death Note David and
then uh and then we'll go from there.
Speaker 10 (31:35):
Okay, okay, but it's not a metaphor for the Antichrist
and all that.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Just don't Oh, okay, I appreciate. No, he was saying,
like the hero and what it doesn't matter. He's got
vasilino for his face.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
That guy.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Let me just say, you want a guy to be
worried about, like, rather than us fighting. You know my
feelings about Trump, y'all may hate whoever put all those
people the side. They're all going to go away. The
dude gets scared about his vasiline face because he's all
into the AI and he's the dude who said I
don't know if we need humans anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
He's got that palainteer. Ye, he's got pallenteer. You want
a dude to be scared of for the future, that
vasoline dude is the guy.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
He does kind of look like he has vascace.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, I wrong, Oh you're not. He's scary, he said Shannon.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
He was like, I don't know if we need humans.
I think we could have like machines and be fine.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Trying to find I've never heard of this guy before.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
He's the dude who brought Jadie Vance into our life. No,
I'm serious, he's He's the one that got Trump to
pick jad Van read about him. He's a scary dude
like Elon and all those guys I have problems with,
But that dude, that's the dude to worry about.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
He's one of the big billionaires that are eventually going
to take over the world.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Look, this world is going to be run by like
five people Muss, Zuckerberg, Peter Thiel, Sam Altman and and
and like if you read those, they're all scary weird.
But he might be the.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Worst castling guy. I mean, he does like a little
shiny a little watch interviews with him.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Is he just sweating?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Do you think I think he just lathers up before
he goes on television. Skincare is important. I don't know,
we'll take a break. I don't know. I did not
mean to get off on that. See David does that, doesn't.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Take a break. Very bad chaos dude. He's he's got
so much vasiline, right, Shandon, Look at all the pictures.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Oh, he's very shiny.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Go watch his interview.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
He does an interview with like I think his name
is like Russ Doffat or whatever. But anyway, you go
watch interview. Tell me you're not scared of that dude.
When the guy's like you you really believe we should
have humans here?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
And he's like.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Maybe you're like, what, you're on our team?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Man? Yeah? Outen, he's team basiline.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Is he a human?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
When you watch he is clear? I know people are
also right and tell me to watch one piece. It's
also seventeen hundred episodes, like I've got to have some stainles,
I got things to do. Yeah, hard pass on this
seventeen hundred. There are seasons that are like one hundred
and thirty one episodes. But then you say, your kids
love it.
Speaker 8 (34:23):
Right, Josiah's best buddy, Darren would watch them NonStop on
our road trips and I'm like, he was like, I'm.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
An eight hundred minute episode, eight hundred. I'm gonna make
it to a thousand.
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get different sunglasses than our friends at Shady Race. Justin
Rowland made a point that I want to note and
I want to expand on it. He said, the next
two years in college football are very important because it
is a chance for teams to break out because of
the chaops. I'm not going to do the history of
college football, but you've probably heard me over the years
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do it and say there are these moments where college
football makes changes, and the programs that develop move forward
and the ones that don't go away. We've talked about
it with Nebraska, Notre Dame. When college football all of
it became on television they got left behind.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
We're in one of those moments right now.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
We're in one of those moments where the whole fundamental
part of what college football is is changing because of
the portal and because of NIL and now revshare, and
there's going to be like this two to three year
period of whoever figures it out can create themselves into
a powerhouse. Indiana's doing it right before eyes. Signetti figured
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out the portal, and he figured out all this and
now he's got a chance to make Indiana really.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Really good.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
They're third in the country this week.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
But he's got a chance.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
I mean, what's more impressive to me than them being
third in the country is that they were really good
last year and now they're good again. He didn't just
do it in one year.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Because a lot of people said last year he just
brought his James Madison players.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Missouri did it that one year and then the next
year they were seven and five. He's done it now twice,
and that's what makes it impressive to me. This is
not the time we can have a coach that's not like,
this is the worst time you could have a coach
Falter and more importantly, we have to have a coach
that's ready for the new era.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
We don't seem to be ready at all.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Just go look at the top teams in the country.
Who's coaching them? Ryan Day, Young, Caitlin de Boor Young,
Kurt Signetty Young.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Dan Lanning, Dan Lamb's on fire.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Even though they lost. Yeah, Miami's coach Young, these people
and they're all what did I say the other day?
How many of these coaches that did it the old
way are winning the new way?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Who's failing? James Franklin, Davo swinging, Kirby Smart's winning, but
it's slipping a little bit from what he was doing.
Go look at the top seven. These are all coaches
who are new and adapting to this. We have to
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have one of those, can we?
Speaker 8 (37:30):
Hearing you say it just makes us feel like we
are so far behind and everything you just said.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Yes we are, We're still we are in We are
basically industrial barons, except I don't even know if we
had if Mark Soops was a baron, but we basically
own a polaroid factory.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
As the iPhone's coming out.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Oh yeah, when you put it that way.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Now we own a six yes for a polaroid factory.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
But it's a polaroid factory.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
But it's a polaroid.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Factory, and people aren't as into polaroids anymore.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
We're but I'm serious that that's not a joke. We
are playing a game that is no longer the game,
and everyone else is doing AI and we're selling typewriters.
We gotta get one of those, or Mark's gonna have
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to transform who he is.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Is that a possibility?
Speaker 4 (38:31):
I mean, how many people do you know that are
that age that just completely change and transform.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
And it works.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
There aren't many.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
There aren't many. I'm not saying there's nobody, but there's
not many. So Justin's point, which was, this is the
time that you have to pick the person for the future.
You can't go backwards. Who's the biggest failure in college
football this year? The greatest coach of the Industrial Revolution,
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Bill Belichick? Right, he plays it the old way, but
that's not how we're doing it anymore.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
So I think that's it's just fact. Let's go to Kenny.
Go ahead, Kenny.
Speaker 11 (39:17):
Man. I don't know your bigger wrestling fan. I don't
know if you got to see what happened this weekend
but they had the match between the Dudley's and it
was a retirement match, and they took their boots off
in the middle of the ring.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, it's right.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
The Dudley's wrestled the Hardy's, which did you know we'd
still be doing that, Shane in twenty twenty five. Those
people they wrestled each other in the mid nineties, and
they wrestled each other last night, and the Dudley's lost,
and then they took their boots off and handed them
to the Hardys Saint, which is the symbol for time retired.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Did Devon get the tables one last time?
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Devon get the table?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
They did have the tables out. But do you like
that as a retirement thing, Shannon? You take your boots
off and you hand them to the other guy.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
I mean, if you're actually going to retire and not
come back three or four more times like the Undertaker has.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah, you know that. Maybe maybe Mark will do that
at the Louisville Gate, think so, just take his shoes, take.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
His boots off, yeah, and hand them to fence after
we beat him.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
It's Nike Freeze UK logo. If you're the other guy,
do you want the boots. Do you put them up
in your house? Because it's not like a jersey of
another player. You frame it, put your man cave, like
this is boots that guy was wrestling in.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
You've been in battle with somebody for thirty years. Like
when Patino and Cow finished, one of them takes off
their their goot loafers and hands it to the other one.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Okay, all right, I'll see another their jacket maybe than
their shoes, but you know, to reach their own I
kind of like.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Jay billis is.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
He's still giving away his shoes afterevery.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
That's always the worst, taking his way his stinky shoes
and hands them to kids.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
And you can always see the kids like why are
you giving me? I don't want your.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
But if you're Matt Hardy's wife and you're like, are
we really putting Bubbarret's boots in our home and on
the mantle? Are you really keeping them?
Speaker 4 (41:04):
I don't know if you put them on the mantle,
But but yeah, Ryan, are you leaning now towards absent
turning the season around?
Speaker 3 (41:15):
We have to make a change.
Speaker 6 (41:17):
I think you have to.
Speaker 8 (41:18):
I think, like we said last week, all the pressure
has gone from stoops winning.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
The pressure is now on Barnhart to make a change.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
If they win six, though, do you do you think differently? Yes? Absolutely,
I do too, yep.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Because I don't know that it'll be better for our
program long term if we win six. But I think
if you win, if you got if you make a
ball and he turned it around, you have to let
I think so, you have to keep going. But honestly,
in my view, we're gonna know Saturday night. You think
so if we get our if we get handed it
to us, we know where this is going.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
It's the most winnable game on the schedule.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
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until April, Uh, Drew, you went to a wedding in Colorado?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
How was that?
Speaker 5 (01:23):
I had a great time. I was a groomsman from
my brother in law. Congrats to Michael and Becca, but
you know, a little winded after got back late last night.
Literally went from the airport to right here to do
coverzero with you all.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
You came in hot, ready to rock. Uh. Congrats to
Michael on his wedding.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I think you said, uh that what was the theme
of the wedding?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
There was really a theme, but I think you might
be talking about how the Broncos played at seven am
and I wanted they played in London. Yeah, I wouldn't
being a part of that. It was just a nice
There wasn't really a theme, but it's just a nice,
beautiful wedding. Black tucks, bow tie tucks.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Busy days a groomsman, though we had a fun time.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I have to put on pants today, so I understand
what you're going through. Yeah, a big day when you
gotta wear pants, Well, I mean like real pants with
like buttons and a belt. Because I'm doing the Ford Center,
I'm moderating. Uh, yes, so you a haircut?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
No?
Speaker 6 (02:17):
I thought you mind when it looks sharp, get a haircut.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Look, you're the only person that before a big day
cuts his hair down to nothing. No, I'm just because
it's a normal thing. Like I'm not the star of
the show. There are other people there. I just have
to introduce some and then get them to talk to
each other about it. And I had to do some
research last night. Have to do some more today on
pants event. No, just the state of Iti I want
(02:41):
because I'm supposed to give ten minutes eight excuse me,
seven to eight minutes summary to start of the transition
from amateurism to Nile.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
It's kind of.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Hard, huh, Like, how did you get into this one?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
They used to ask me, because I think the combination
of law awe and me doing sports and then moderating.
Now I can see why they why they pick but
like that's a tough thing to do.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Go five years ago, we were paying no nobody. Now
we can just pay whatever we want. How did that happen?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Is this something that we could stream online and watch
it extreamed.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I've had a lot of people asking you can go
see it. I know it's at the Singletary Center at UK.
It's at five point thirty. It's opened the public. I
think I don't know how many people are going to
be there. I think that they said the room holds
three fifty. But on your panel it is a woman
from the NCAA commission, a dude who represents a bunch
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of athletes, and your guy Mark's story.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Oh, the Harald.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Leadersh nice love Mark story stars So big night over
it though over on campus.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah, let's watch out. It's gonna be when you see
the crowd. That's what's gonna be going on. Well, a
lot of stuff to get to. I think the two
big stories big Blue Matt Madness Saturday, and then I
think the firing of James Franklin yesterday has led to
conversations about here. Those I think those are probably the
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two big things. So let's start with something positive. I
don't want to be like Mario and always negative. Let's
start with let's start with Big Blue Madness. All right,
I'm gonna go on record and say this is, in
my opinion, one of the best Big Blue Madness is
in many years.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I mean, I think you have to go back.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Last year was exciting because it was Pope's first one
Rick Patino. But if I asked you to remember something
that happened besides Rick Patino, can you remember it now?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Mark Stoop's coming out in flexing.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Oh yeah, on the football field.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
On the football field, that's right, and then that was
all going south at that moment.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yeah, it doesn't because they'd just beaten Old Miss Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
But I think this one gives us a bunch of
moments that people will remember.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Number one, they had like two I think they had
three things they wanted to do. Okay, they got one
of them done, But to me, it was the one
that was most important.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I think they wanted to do something with a horse.
That was the one.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
After that, I knew that they were trying to do
wall in the horse. The third one I found out
later I'm not gonna say because we'll leave that for
another time, but I knew they were trying to do
wall on the horse, and they still weren't sure Wall
was going to get here, and then they weren't sure
about the horse. The horse ended up not working out Wall.
I think they didn't know for sure was getting here,
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am I right until early in the afternoon.
Speaker 8 (05:32):
Yeah, that's why you and I kind of hinted at
it at the show on Friday, But there was no
guarantee even on Friday that he was gonna make it
to Madness on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
What if instead of John Wall coming up on the rise,
or it was just a horse.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
And just a random horse, just a horse, just a horse,
a horse.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
And then the horse comes up and then just looks
at everybody and just takes a.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Big dune right there on the thing.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
What was that?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I never heard? Why were they thinking we're not sure
Wall was gonna be able to get there.
Speaker 8 (06:03):
I think it was just travel logistics. I think it's
what it was, trying to make sure he got here
in time.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Well, he gets here, and that's a great moment, right,
I mean, isn't that a great moment? Just to even
though I knew it was coming, the moment ice cream
Paint Job plays, you can just hear the crowd get excited,
and even though he only did this twice.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
He didn't do it very long.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Well, I mean he's probably like you know, now he's
in his mid thirties, you still want me to do this.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I still thought it was great. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
I wasn't able to watch live, but I just saw
a picture of John Wall with his arm up on
top of the set on that platform, and it kind of,
i'll say, gave me chili bumps.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
It kind of got you feeling. It's just a still
image of it.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You're recreating the best thing that's happened at Big Blue Madness,
and John Wall Is still is a guy who can
still connect the ages. Yeah, like old fans lik him,
younger fans, and then even people who'd weren't who were
kids or didn't weren't even paying attention when he played,
they still know that that happened.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I just thought that was that couldn't have been better.
I loved it.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
You know, they do the recreate the whole thing of
him coming up on the riser doing the John Wall
dance place going crazy. You're right though, but even for
like old guys like me, young guys like Mario, John Walls,
like the centerpiece has kind of made Kentucky basketball relevant
again and we'll never always appreciate you think.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
He's like, to some extent, is he the face.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Of like Kentucky players. So like when I was a
kid and you were to say Kentucky basketball players.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You probably would have said, like Macy.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
It didn't work for me, although I think a little
people a little older than me were like that about Macy.
I was probably Rex and to some extent Kenny Walker
I think was a little bit of that to me.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
And then I think it was Mashburn for a long time,
don't you.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Yeah, for sure, I kind of think it's John Wall now,
don't you Even though Anthony Davis was is better and
all that, I still think it's kind of John Wall,
isn't it.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Oh, I definitely think it's John Wall. I mean, Anthony
Davis got the title, but Davis, I mean, he's not
that Walden wouldn't have big NBA star, But you know Davis,
some people associate him as a Lakers champion. People think
John Wall and the University of Kentucky. No one thinks
the Wizard.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
And it's kind of helped that that six four from
Kentucky has stuck with him forever. And like I think
even nationally, when people think John Wall, they think of that, right,
they think of that moment.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
And you're pointing about young people don't even remember it
or weren't alive for it or watching. It's almost like
you feel like, well, I have to have this connect.
It's like a part of being a Kentucky fan.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
No I think he is the player connection for Kentucky.
So having him there with it, and then I thought,
I thought that the Trent Noah think having Jordan Smiths
sing and having him pop.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Up, I thought that was I was great.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I mean, we're I think there's a part of me
that's like, we're never leaving Harlan alive.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
We're like, I think we got plenty of that now,
Like we're doing it at the football games.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
I mean we're doing it, but walk up for a picture.
It's a lot. It's a lot because that's an old song.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I don't know that we just all resurrected it all
of a sudden, But I thought, in that circumstance and
especially having this kid sing it, who's from Harlan and
who was on was he on the Voice or American
Idol or one of the two.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I thought that was neat then, you know, having the fan.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Fest, Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna get later have Mario
talk about because he went to it. I didn't go
to it, but just having that event, I think was
just made it great and it felt like a real celebrate,
day long celebration of UK fandom drew, which is what
you want.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I wasn't there, but I saw enough of it to
kind of understand how it went. It seemed that they
just thought of so many things. I mean, you had
our friend Billy from True Blue Customs at a station
painting shoes. Obviously you're meeting. I heard Pope went over
game film. You know, my guy Aaron broke down game
film for thirty straight minutes. My guy Aaron Kaiser's in
their painting. It's not like they just rolled out one
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thing and said, come look at this. It seemed like
you could make a whole day out of it, and
that they considered just about everything they could think of.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
Play one on one with Khalil Whitney and the on
one side on the basketball court, that was cool.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
What you could play one on one with. He was
just there, challenging.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
He was there, and you could play a little one
on one again, and then.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
You should have come and challenge Khalil Whitney one on one.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
He doesn't want to smoke, I'll cross him over, and.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
They kind of the dragon to do.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
I thought it was great.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yeah, And then you know, I thought I heard from
a lot of people that went that the in game stuff,
the in arena stuff was much better. They had two
new people doing it. I don't know, they're apparently NBA people,
but they brought actual entertainers to end the entertain the
crowd and it worked. Here's a hint. Get people who
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do that to do it, and it worked. I thought
the tea I watched the TV broadcast. I thought the
new guy Noah.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Noah Robbie and George A. Moore that was a good combination.
I think George Amore is great.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I think she's like.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
She's gonna add a lot of the women's broadcast.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
She is she doing the women's broad I think.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
She's doing some of them.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yes, she'll be good at it.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Like I thought she for somebody who's just graduated college,
she was really comfortable at it.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
And you know, then the three point contest was cool.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
And then Colin Chandler wins dunk contest with John Wall
throwing in the ball.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I mean, I just think for you, for an event
that is hard.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
To reinvent every year and has taken a lot of
criticism over the years, I thought they did a really
really good job.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Yeah, it sure seems like it. What is the I
don't know when they aired it, but I've seen this
new clip it's like two and a half minutes long
on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
That is amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
So their new intro video with the players, I mean,
this is the part the Pope regime gets I'm not seeing.
Cal didn't realize like Cal was good to the players
the past, but for him, history in terms of what
he marketed started with John Wall.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Correct, right, Yep.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
He respected the other guys, but he was like, Okay,
thank you guys, we're marketing wall on right.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Mark Pope's got a little bit of everything. Yes, you
know he he that video it shows players watching moments
from the past. Huh right.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
One of them's looking at Oscar, one of them's looking
at Wall, one of them's looking at Rex. You know,
like like that's cool. I think that's that's very cool.
And that intro video, if you haven't seen it, that
they're gonna play that at the games this year.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
Apparently it was a great It was fantastic And you're right.
If Cal was still here, that video would would have
just been his players. Yes, Pope gets it, understands what
the history of this program means and these old players
mean to all that.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
And I am a complete and total sucker for putting
old UK highlight to me.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, I mean, I'm just a sucker.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
You can put any song you just start showing, and
because because what happens is with that, especially the older
I get. I see all those moments and I just
think of where I was, huh for all of them.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
It's and when you put music on it, Dude, I
am a grown man and that stuff brings me to
tears every single time. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous that seen.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
You know when when uh in twenty fourteen when they
all jump on Aaron Harrison and they're you know, that
shouldn't have that effect on me, but it always does, Drew,
And every time they do one, I love it me too.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
And on stuff like that with Kentucky basketball, the sapier
of the music, the better, I agree. You know, my
football highlights I need some. I need some beats, some
probably some rap music. But the Kentucky basketball highlights just
make me cry.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
If you want to play stated like it's the first
time I've seen them, you know, like, oh, is that
ball going to go in?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
When Patrick's first? It's crazy.
Speaker 8 (14:04):
Like other people across the country don't get it. You know,
we watch, we watch a video like that, and it
plays with our emotions so much, like I said, moves
you to tears.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
You get chilling.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
But other people can't appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Because I do think it's because you think, at least
I do, of parts of your life that were these moments.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Right. I can remember exactly where I was when Scott
Paget hit that three against Duke. I can see myself
in that situation, Yeah right, I can, you know I can.
I can see myself when those two dudes, when Walt
Cousins and Wall hugged each other in Nashville at the
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SEC tournament after that shot. I mean, I remember where
I was sitting in that and you just go through
all of them.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I just thought they did an excellent job.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
And I do want to say I'm very harsh sometimes
on forgetting the common fan, et cetera. I know the
things say had some hiccups with people not being able
to get autographs, the mere fact that they did it,
everyone should praise amen. In twenty twenty five, where it's
all where there's just month, they want money, money, money, money,
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money in college sports.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
To have a completely free event that rewards the people
that get there the earliest two hours before they opened up, allows.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Them to interact. See all this brings all the disparate
parts of our fan base. The UK basketball people deserve
all the credit in the world for doing that. And
that to me starts at the top of Mark Pope,
who prioritizes things like this.
Speaker 8 (15:38):
You could tell that he it's important to him to,
you know, bring that fan base back and let us
know it's it's our program. It's not just the coaches program,
it's everybody's program.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So I thought that was I thought that was a
great day.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven
text machine seven seven two seven four five two five four,
we will take a break and be right back to KSR.
Welcome back, Take you. Sports Radio also had a couple
other things. You had the Jasper Johnson doing the six
seventh didn't knowdle this weekend, he was part of making
that a trend. How did I not know that I
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literally did the trend? How did I not know one
of our players was part of getting that going? That
him and what was it? Take Anny take Any. You're
the show's TikToker. You're supposed to have all the TikTok
sow I said six seven. Didn't even know what was
a thing. And then people are like, oh, you know
the trends, and I was like, what, I still don't
know what it means.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I think it means nothing.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
It does mean nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
But they did that in the intro. I didn't even know.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I did not know all this weekend that we had
a player that was like part of that.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
I knew take Any did a story about it. I
knew about to take any connection. I guess I could
have associated that Jasper was probably around the room at
that time because it was an ote, but I didn't
know Jasper had.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Had no idea.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
One person writes on the text machine, Matt uh, I
know I'm old and probably grumpy, but John Wall doesn't
do anything for me.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Well, you are old and grump.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
How can you be a Kentucky fan and say that
john Wall doesn't say.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
That, you're just being in a contrarian. If john Wall
doesn't do anything for you, then you don't. I'm not
gonna say you don't love this, but you're just being
a grump because I I will contend until the day
I die. There's never been a more fun year of
college basketball at Kentucky one. I know we didn't win,
(17:25):
but that was the greatest rock Star year ever.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Ever, you're the ninety two team, there's a special sentimentality
to that year, right, Yes, twenty fifteen there was a
greatness component.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Twenty twelve. We obviously won the title. Ninety six.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
We were dominant, but if you're just talking fun, Ryan,
they'll never be a year as fun as that was.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
One fun. I mean, that was the book that Aaron
Towita was right.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
It was fun. One of the most would you agree,
most fun year ever?
Speaker 8 (17:58):
You're right, it's a shame they didn't win title. They
deserved it, but it was so much fun. You know,
the magic Johnson showing up in a game. You know,
all these people that wanted to come with Lebron just
to see this phenomenon that was going on.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Get on here, really quick. Tell tell me Mario you
were there. How was the fan fast?
Speaker 9 (18:14):
It was really cool, man, I really enjoyed it. I
would say, like for the most part, I'm glad it
was free. Like they was giving out tattoos. You know,
So who got tattoos? Like, I'll probably say sixty over
sixty people. It was a long line tattoos crazy like
UK logos like the state outline with BBN in the
middle of it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
It was just sixty people got tattooed. More than sixty.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Somebody got down tattoo on.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I saw somebody getting ls.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Down gonna yells up because it els down on their arms.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
They didn't think that went through.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Maybe they didn't.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
What about the Kenny Brooks autograph tattoo? Yeah, somebody got
a Kenny Brooks audi see that.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
What were people happy there?
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
They were?
Speaker 9 (18:54):
There was static like they had five on five like
a basketball court where fans could play like Whitney Darius Miller.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Like everybody was just having a good time. Yeah, I'll
tell you another cool thing they did.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
They did this row where they let all the UK
podcasts do it. I remember, like, I know what that
would have been like when I got started. If UK
in two thousand and six had let me come and
do podcasting from the thing. That's very cool of them
to do, and so a lot of people who don't
ever get to do that got to do that.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
Yeah, that was that was incredible overall. Man, I was
just I was surprised how so many people like came
like two hours before.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
There's a whole line like wrapped around there.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
There was a line all the way down to the
park to gatt And Park. I'm serious, it wrapped all
the way down around into the park.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Yeah, clearly it was a hit on the podcast thing.
That was good for young and up and comers. Also,
the local media here lately just felt like we don't
get much like we've seen all the national people get
to come in and see practice. Sometimes local media is like, hey,
we're over here too. I thought that was big and
just giving them access and letting them be a part
of something where a lot of times, as we know,
they kind of try to keep it all in house.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
So all right, so let's talk just a second about
the basketball.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
I know you can't draw too much into it, but
as people saw it pro day in this this is
a team that can shoot Trenton.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Noah may be the best shooter I've seen in my lifetime.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
The dude due, The dude just doesn't mean whoa whoa.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Mean a little you know, a little hYP purpole there,
but hypurpoly hiph purplely h purple?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
What is high purplely?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Is that like it's a special kind of high hyper.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Bowl Its color high purply? Yeah? Not purplely?
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Yes, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
One.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
I's got to go into coffee table book.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Mike, go ahead, Mike boy, Yes, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
So I got two things. One, you know, I just
moved to Miami. So I wanted to say kill for
providing a great show every day that I can always
tune into at work. It's been a good, steady thing,
that kind of cutch allized consistence. I thank you all
for that.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
You're welcome.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
And second of all, you know with the Jeris Franklin stuff.
You know, I see some people.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I'm gonna let you finish, but just note thirty minutes
that people are ready to talk about stoops. I mean,
you're just ready. I know Jerry's next. I know he's
gonna do the same thing. I was trying to get
some basketball joy in, but let's just get to James
frank But go ahead.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
I mean, he deserved to be fired obviously, but like
you know, I see people on Twitter saying should we
look at him? But you know, I think it's inevitable
like that, we know that we're going to be moving
on from Mark Soups very soon. If I mean, maybe
it's next year, maybe it's this year, but it will
be coming. And I feel like our next candidate have
to be somebody who's done more with less rather than
(21:56):
less with more, like somebody like James Franklin or one
of these other coach at the big I don't.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Think anybody, and I appreciate call I don't want James Franklin.
I don't think that's I don't think Kentucky wants to
do that. Plus, why would you want to get a
guy who you're paying your buyout and you're paying Penn
States by Because if we hire them, we're gonna end
up paying Penn States by, right, So why would you
want to do that? But I guess we have to
talk about stoops because I know these callers. I was
(22:22):
trying to get a little basketball. Joy's went to the
rest of it. We'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
TJ. Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
He'll make them pay.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
No more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.
Here's Matt Jones.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
And we're laughing about, you know, Keenland's going on, which
just makes all of social media videos of people walking
in and out of Keenland.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Like, I just I can't Why is that a thing?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I can't do it? All these people make videos like
they're the guest of honor everywhere they go. It just
makes me romise. I mean, you want to go to Keenland,
take pictures with you and your friends, That's fine. You're
a woman, you look good, put it up. You boys,
you got suits on. I'm good with all that. But
when they create videos of them walking in and like
gazing at the horses, and like, I'm just like, just
(23:10):
just take yourself a little less.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Seriously, please, just a little bit.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I don't want any video of me leaving Kim. In fact,
if you have one of those deleted.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
It probably won't be good. All right, let's just before
we go the phones, let's just do quickly. H football,
So James Franklin gets gets fired. It's gonna be a
fifty million dollar buyout. It's gonna be the second highest
buyout ever paid. It was James frankl just the record
Penn State loss back to back games as a twenty
(23:41):
point plus favorite. No team since nineteen ninety three has
ever done that in a year. He did it in
back to back weeks. So he gets fired. Fifty million dollars.
By the conversation here immediately goes to stoops. Obviously, couple
differences I think are important. Number One, Penn States is
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not due immediately to do over the course of his contract,
so really they owe ten million dollars a year. That's
a big difference. Big difference, big difference. Mitch Barnhardt, no
matter what happens with this whole thing, having two contracts
with top coaches where we had to pay the buy
out within a month was a massive disaster and he
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deserves a lot of criticism for that. And the next
time I interview him, I'm gonna ask you about it.
I don't know how you do that. It's a huge mistake.
I don't know if any other school in the country.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Even has that.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
I ask you, has that ever been happened.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I'm not I'm sure there are other ones.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I don't know of any All these people that have
been fired, Jimbo Fish and all those they haven't had it.
We're the only one that's had it amongst these guys.
That now makes five major football programs that have already
fired their coach and more coming. Virginia Tech, UCLA, Arkansas,
Oklahoma State, and now Penn State. All programs, by the way,
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they have had more success than we've have.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Yeah, there's more coming.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Yeah, there's more coming.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I mean, Florida pretty decent chance, Boston College, Maryland, I
mean there's more coming. Who knows, Auburn maybe.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
So we're gonna this is gonna be a hard time
to go find a coach if we have to go find.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
A coach, because those other jobs are a better job
than the Kentucky job.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yes, and there's only so many people out there who
are gonna want to be hired. Then on the same weekend,
Kurt Signetti takes Indiana and they beat Oregon on the road,
which of course leads people to go, well, if Indiana
can do it, why can't we. So not a good
weekend if you're Mitch Barnhard or Mark Stoops, would you
agree with that?
Speaker 7 (25:46):
No?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
And uh, you know, five days ago, maybe three days ago,
probably thought quite a little weekend, a little bit of
bye big blue madness is gonna have everyone's attention. We
won't even be mentioned. Then we'll focus on Texas next week.
But the James Franklin thing almost like it just got
people fired up again, even though UK nothing has changed
on the UK side, and over a week it just
got people. Situation is different than them. I mean, we
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don't have the money they have.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Now.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
There was a report that Adidas is paying the buyout
that Adida says that is false.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
They're not paying the buyo. I tend to believe them.
Why would Adidas?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
I thought that too when I saw the tweet. They
would want them to be good.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
But they're not going to pay a forty fifty I mean,
they just signed like a five hundred million dollars deal.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
They're not gonna pay a fifty million.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Dollars byle But ours being due up front, Ryan is
why it's different.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
That's why I ask you this has ever happened before?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I don't know of any time it's ever happened. I'm
not saying it hasn't, but I don't know of any time.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
And what was the purpose for Barnhart to think that
was a good idea At the time, you didn't think
that Stoops was never going to leave or not.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Has a great agent and Barnhardt. Some would consider this
a compliment, some would not. I think he intentionally gives
pro coach contracts. Look at all of our coaches. They
all have contracts that are very friendly. Even the ones
that have been very successful, all have very positive I mean,
Mark Pope, I'm glad we did this, but we paid
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him probably more than we needed to.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I'm okay with it.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, but we paid him what five and a half
six million dollars? I mean he was making what two
you know, I mean you just like that's what we do.
And you know Pope would have crawled on glass to
get him.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
He was probably.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I mean MinJe Ones played very very well. Kenny Brooks
has paid very very well. Craig Skinners paid very very well.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
And when it's looked like it's not working, he's very patient.
And it's worked for people like Minjeo, it's worked for Minios.
But then he probably gave what's her name our last
women's we probably gave Kyra Alsey one more year.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Than than than you would have otherwise. So you know.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
So with that said, do you think he's going to
give Stoops more time?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Well, this is a different situation. I mean, I mean,
we gotta see what the next six weeks. But how
can you give him more time if they're three and nine? Seriously,
I don't know how you bring you back at the three.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
You can't. What are you gonna argue? What's the argument
that it's gonna.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
Work coming off well, a four wins season last year
and you come back with three wins?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Yeah you can.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
It's not It's not a one off three and isn't
exactly that was last year. The one off year was
last year, not this one. So yeah, Michael, go ahead, Michael.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Not so much doom in gloom.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
But a question I've been pondering and pondering with football
is what's the shelf life of Cutter? How long does Cutter?
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I sit that say this with love and I don't.
I like Cutter and I think he can be good here.
It doesn't matter. You do not make your choice based
on Cutter bowling. He's I hope he ends up good here.
I think he still can if we have a new
coach come in and they like Cutter, I'd love to
see Cutter's day. But Cutter, to me, as much as
(28:58):
I like him, is relevant to whatever choice you make
at the end of the year. This is not Tim Couch,
where you've got a dude who's gonna be the number
one overall pick in the draft and you consider what
he wants before you go. Cutter is along for whatever
ride we go on, and in the portal era, you
don't have to have Cutter because you can go get someone.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
True true. All right, well, thank you for helping you
agree with that.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
I wanted to work with Cutter, and I hope whenever
this happens that he's a part of what's next. But also,
if you make the right coaching hire a guy that's
good and got a little swag to him, he's probably
gonna want his own guy, even if he likes Cutter.
That's just the nature of the business. They usually bring
in their own people.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Justin Rowland made a good point online that I want
to talk about. But let's take one more callum than
I want, because I want to expand on something. He
said David. Go ahead, David, are you doing that? What's
going on?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
David Good?
Speaker 10 (29:54):
I love that big blue madness. The other I brought
back memories when joh Log did the dance and I'm.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
To see Tubby there too?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Yes, how did how did I forget that? Having Tubby
there was also excellent?
Speaker 10 (30:06):
You're exactly right, Yeah, Greg, last week you were talking
talking about anime and Death Note and One Piece, and
I'm I'm gonna suggest this. You don't have to watch
the the anime on Netflix. But there is a lie
actually One Piece Shove that'll that is shorter and it
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has one season and the second season.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
On the way.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I'm gonna stick with Death Note. I've watched one episode,
liked it. I'm as watch two or three this week.
I'm gonna stick with that One Piece. I saw somebody
was on TV saying it was like, who was it
the dude? Who's what's the name of the dude with
all the vasoline on his face that's trying to take
over the world?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
What what do those words mean? Good grief? There's a
guy it's always on TV and he's greasy.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Hey, I guy, he's isn't really involved in politics.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Peter feel. Okay, here's the guy that said we don't
need humans anymore. I know the part. Oh he's very Vasillini.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Yeah, I didn't know that part.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
He's very greasy all the time anyway, Vassolini guy. He
said that one piece was a metaphor for like the
anti Christ and all this stuff. And I was like,
I don't want to watch this too much.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
It's not it's not yeah, I just want to.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Watch I just want to watch Death Note David and
then uh and then we'll go from there.
Speaker 10 (31:35):
Okay, okay, but it's not a metaphor for the Antichrist
and all that.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Just don't Oh, okay, I appreciate. No, he was saying,
like the hero and what it doesn't matter. He's got
vasilino for his face.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
That guy.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Let me just say, you want a guy to be
worried about, like, rather than us fighting. You know my
feelings about Trump, y'all may hate whoever put all those
people the side. They're all going to go away. The
dude gets scared about his vasiline face because he's all
into the AI and he's the dude who said I
don't know if we need humans anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
He's got that palainteer. Ye, he's got pallenteer. You want
a dude to be scared of for the future, that
vasoline dude is the guy.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
He does kind of look like he has vascace.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, I wrong, Oh you're not. He's scary, he said Shannon.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
He was like, I don't know if we need humans.
I think we could have like machines and be fine.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Trying to find I've never heard of this guy before.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
He's the dude who brought Jadie Vance into our life. No,
I'm serious, he's He's the one that got Trump to
pick jad Van read about him. He's a scary dude
like Elon and all those guys I have problems with,
But that dude, that's the dude to worry about.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
He's one of the big billionaires that are eventually going
to take over the world.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Look, this world is going to be run by like
five people Muss, Zuckerberg, Peter Thiel, Sam Altman and and
and like if you read those, they're all scary weird.
But he might be the.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Worst castling guy. I mean, he does like a little
shiny a little watch interviews with him.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Is he just sweating?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Do you think I think he just lathers up before
he goes on television. Skincare is important. I don't know,
we'll take a break. I don't know. I did not
mean to get off on that. See David does that, doesn't.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Take a break. Very bad chaos dude. He's he's got
so much vasiline, right, Shandon, Look at all the pictures.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Oh, he's very shiny.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Go watch his interview.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
He does an interview with like I think his name
is like Russ Doffat or whatever. But anyway, you go
watch interview. Tell me you're not scared of that dude.
When the guy's like you you really believe we should
have humans here?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
And he's like.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Maybe you're like, what, you're on our team?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Man? Yeah? Outen, he's team basiline.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Is he a human?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
When you watch he is clear? I know people are
also right and tell me to watch one piece. It's
also seventeen hundred episodes, like I've got to have some stainles,
I got things to do. Yeah, hard pass on this
seventeen hundred. There are seasons that are like one hundred
and thirty one episodes. But then you say, your kids
love it.
Speaker 8 (34:23):
Right, Josiah's best buddy, Darren would watch them NonStop on
our road trips and I'm like, he was like, I'm.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
An eight hundred minute episode, eight hundred. I'm gonna make
it to a thousand.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
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(34:55):
get different sunglasses than our friends at Shady Race. Justin
Rowland made a point that I want to note and
I want to expand on it. He said, the next
two years in college football are very important because it
is a chance for teams to break out because of
the chaops. I'm not going to do the history of
college football, but you've probably heard me over the years
(35:17):
do it and say there are these moments where college
football makes changes, and the programs that develop move forward
and the ones that don't go away. We've talked about
it with Nebraska, Notre Dame. When college football all of
it became on television they got left behind.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
We're in one of those moments right now.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
We're in one of those moments where the whole fundamental
part of what college football is is changing because of
the portal and because of NIL and now revshare, and
there's going to be like this two to three year
period of whoever figures it out can create themselves into
a powerhouse. Indiana's doing it right before eyes. Signetti figured
(35:59):
out the portal, and he figured out all this and
now he's got a chance to make Indiana really.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Really good.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
They're third in the country this week.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
But he's got a chance.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
I mean, what's more impressive to me than them being
third in the country is that they were really good
last year and now they're good again. He didn't just
do it in one year.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Because a lot of people said last year he just
brought his James Madison players.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Missouri did it that one year and then the next
year they were seven and five. He's done it now twice,
and that's what makes it impressive to me. This is
not the time we can have a coach that's not like,
this is the worst time you could have a coach
Falter and more importantly, we have to have a coach
that's ready for the new era.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
We don't seem to be ready at all.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Just go look at the top teams in the country.
Who's coaching them? Ryan Day, Young, Caitlin de Boor Young,
Kurt Signetty Young.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Dan Lanning, Dan Lamb's on fire.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Even though they lost. Yeah, Miami's coach Young, these people
and they're all what did I say the other day?
How many of these coaches that did it the old
way are winning the new way?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Who's failing? James Franklin, Davo swinging, Kirby Smart's winning, but
it's slipping a little bit from what he was doing.
Go look at the top seven. These are all coaches
who are new and adapting to this. We have to
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have one of those, can we?
Speaker 8 (37:30):
Hearing you say it just makes us feel like we
are so far behind and everything you just said.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Yes we are, We're still we are in We are
basically industrial barons, except I don't even know if we
had if Mark Soops was a baron, but we basically
own a polaroid factory.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
As the iPhone's coming out.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Oh yeah, when you put it that way.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Now we own a six yes for a polaroid factory.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
But it's a polaroid factory.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
But it's a polaroid.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Factory, and people aren't as into polaroids anymore.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
We're but I'm serious that that's not a joke. We
are playing a game that is no longer the game,
and everyone else is doing AI and we're selling typewriters.
We gotta get one of those, or Mark's gonna have
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to transform who he is.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Is that a possibility?
Speaker 4 (38:31):
I mean, how many people do you know that are
that age that just completely change and transform.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
And it works.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
There aren't many.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
There aren't many. I'm not saying there's nobody, but there's
not many. So Justin's point, which was, this is the
time that you have to pick the person for the future.
You can't go backwards. Who's the biggest failure in college
football this year? The greatest coach of the Industrial Revolution,
(38:59):
Bill Belichick? Right, he plays it the old way, but
that's not how we're doing it anymore.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
So I think that's it's just fact. Let's go to Kenny.
Go ahead, Kenny.
Speaker 11 (39:17):
Man. I don't know your bigger wrestling fan. I don't
know if you got to see what happened this weekend
but they had the match between the Dudley's and it
was a retirement match, and they took their boots off
in the middle of the ring.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, it's right.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
The Dudley's wrestled the Hardy's, which did you know we'd
still be doing that, Shane in twenty twenty five. Those
people they wrestled each other in the mid nineties, and
they wrestled each other last night, and the Dudley's lost,
and then they took their boots off and handed them
to the Hardys Saint, which is the symbol for time retired.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Did Devon get the tables one last time?
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Devon get the table?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
They did have the tables out. But do you like
that as a retirement thing, Shannon? You take your boots
off and you hand them to the other guy.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
I mean, if you're actually going to retire and not
come back three or four more times like the Undertaker has.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah, you know that. Maybe maybe Mark will do that
at the Louisville Gate, think so, just take his shoes, take.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
His boots off, yeah, and hand them to fence after
we beat him.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
It's Nike Freeze UK logo. If you're the other guy,
do you want the boots. Do you put them up
in your house? Because it's not like a jersey of
another player. You frame it, put your man cave, like
this is boots that guy was wrestling in.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
You've been in battle with somebody for thirty years. Like
when Patino and Cow finished, one of them takes off
their their goot loafers and hands it to the other one.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Okay, all right, I'll see another their jacket maybe than
their shoes, but you know, to reach their own I
kind of like.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Jay billis is.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
He's still giving away his shoes afterevery.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
That's always the worst, taking his way his stinky shoes
and hands them to kids.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
And you can always see the kids like why are
you giving me? I don't want your.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
But if you're Matt Hardy's wife and you're like, are
we really putting Bubbarret's boots in our home and on
the mantle? Are you really keeping them?
Speaker 4 (41:04):
I don't know if you put them on the mantle,
But but yeah, Ryan, are you leaning now towards absent
turning the season around?
Speaker 3 (41:15):
We have to make a change.
Speaker 6 (41:17):
I think you have to.
Speaker 8 (41:18):
I think, like we said last week, all the pressure
has gone from stoops winning.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
The pressure is now on Barnhart to make a change.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
If they win six, though, do you do you think differently? Yes? Absolutely,
I do too, yep.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Because I don't know that it'll be better for our
program long term if we win six. But I think
if you win, if you got if you make a
ball and he turned it around, you have to let
I think so, you have to keep going. But honestly,
in my view, we're gonna know Saturday night. You think
so if we get our if we get handed it
to us, we know where this is going.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
It's the most winnable game on the schedule.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
We'll be right back
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