October 14, 2025 • 42 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
Tuesday, October fourteenth. I'm Matt Jones here in studio. You
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(00:56):
I know that I'm with old. Everybody's gotten old on me.
What's up? We're sitting here talking about basketball and football.
Pregame shows. I'm in a room full of people, Ryan, Drew, Billy,
Ryan who's been doing these shows for fifteen years, Billy
who's produced them for years. Drew's been on for a
few years as well. None of them could remember the
times for the pregame shows that we've always done. Everyone
(01:20):
but me was going we started our basketball pre game
show three hours before and I'm like, no, two and
a half, and Billy's like, it's three. Ryan's like it's three.
Idn't and it's it's always been to it.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I'm not even on the show, and I know it's
two and a half.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It's always been two and a half. So but but
it's now that time. We're doing pregame for Purdue basketball Ryan,
next weekend. We played the number one team in the
country next Friday. That was the conversation.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
We got all these pregame shows for football, basketball postgame shows,
trying to get a lank, and they all started different times.
Y'all have different links.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, we're getting into that time where like we'll be
on I want you to just get just think about it.
And I'm not complaining. I'm complaining on behalf of the audience.
I want you to think about how much you could
hear my voice if you wanted to next weekend. Okay,
just think about this Friday morning KSR, you know are remote.
(02:15):
Then Basketball pregame Show three pm, Basketball postgame show whenever
the Predudy game's over, Saturday, Kentucky Tennessee Football pregame Show
two hours, Kentucky Tennessee Football postgame Show, Sunday morning, Matt
Myron on ESPN Sunday Night Cover zero.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
That's a lot of radio. It's a lot of mass.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
If you listen to me that whole time, then your
wife has to hate you or your husband has to
hate you. That's too much me. It's too much me
for me.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
I'm in the same boat with the football podcast a
happy hour now. I'm like people. At some point, I
don't want to just be talking at every moment of
every day.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
But hours, that's four, three six, I mean, that's that's
a lot out. I'll do that every day. See I
love this. Yes, you always do that. You do three
hours a day. But then you do your music. You're
not doing the whole show. You're introing the song. Yeah,
but I'm talking. But you I love you, Shannon, But
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you tape that in twenty minutes. But I'm talking, though,
is my point for twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Whatever, It's fine, tough guy.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Twenty minutes you're like, welcome back, this is food fighters.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
You know what, what's crazy?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You said that though?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
There there will be people though that will listen to
every second of all your shows.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, I am very grateful for them doing That's just
a lot. That's just a lot, a lot of Matt,
a lot of Matt. And by the end of that
week and then we come right back your Monday morning,
another full week. So I'm probably gonna give the Tennessee
football post game. Let Billy do it because Billy likes
doing it, because Billy's angry at people during the postgame show.
And I think that I think that's to be a
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post game show after Tennessee where people will want to
just be angry. So Billy might be the vibe drew
for it. Actually, well, I had.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
The South Carolina game and you talk about talking the
whole time. There were so many calls and people so angry.
It's one of those just let them go. And I
think Tennessee might be the same. Willy might be a
good person for the just let everybody. Let everybody go.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yesterday, Ryan, I want to thank the listeners who did
come out to hear the Wendell Ford lecture about it,
and I all thought it went really well good. It
was good. We had a big crown, you know. I
I put on a jacket. Yeah you mentioned the pants.
(04:42):
You know, it was fine. I have reress pants. I
mean these I couldn't do the formal thing. Well, I
just don't do it very often anymore. I have all
these suits from my TV days and I don't get
to wear a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
So was there a moment where it got a little
tense and you're questioning them back and forth?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Or I'm going to be tense. We're not fighting each other.
It was just about trying to teach people about NIL.
It wasn't like let's go to war, so.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Like a lot like a political debate, you weren't.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
There's nothing political about NIL. It's just do you It's
just like college sports rules.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Yeah, that's why I just asked him. I was there
was a situation where somebody asked a question. Question.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
It was not heated, not heated at all. I did
have a moment though, that was a little worrisome. So
I got there early because you know campus, you can't
park there. You try to drive on Euclid Avenue at
four thirty in the afternoon. Just forget it. Let me
just forget it. They had saved us spots in front
of the singletary, so that helps. So it had in
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big letters VIP and our name.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I almost took a picture of it VIP Matt John.
So I was the first one there. So I parked,
I went and they had a dressing room for us.
Really right, Shannon had a dressing room makeup.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Did you know you get a writer?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Uh? I did not get a writer. I bought a
coke zero out of the machine and then I said
it and waited. Well, all the all the people that
are on the panel get there and we're all We're
all sitting there in the room, and then this woman
comes in and goes, man, can I speak with you
for a second. I walk outside and I'm like, oh,
what are they gonna say? And there's a cop there
and they go, uh, this is officer blah blah blah.
(06:17):
And I was like, and he goes, uh, he's going
to take you after this is over. And for a
minute I was like, take you where What did I do? Yeah,
this is a frank what happened? And they go, no, no,
he's going to escort you to your car when it's over.
And I was like, oh, well, I guess who's escorting
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and every and they're like, no you and I was
like oh, and they go we just thought it would
be good. Well that kind of got me parano Yeah,
for sure, Shannon. You know, like, what was there a
threat on me? Walk car? Yeah, I've been on I
come on that campus all the time, and so they
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had this guy like kind of walk me out. And
then somebody mentioned as I was leaving, you know, they're
doing this on campus now for anybody who is at
all people could see as political post the Charlie Kirk thing. Wow,
and that was really like, I mean, it was very nice.
The guy was nice, but like there was a co
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I have to admit it kind of got me paranoid.
Like so then I'm starting to look around. It was
it's the weirdest thing. Somebody gives you something to make
you feel more comfortable, and I was completely comfortable, and
then it almost switched it off.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Because it's something you don't need. It's like, what, why
do I need that, well.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Certainly something I didn't think i'd need. But then when
they tell you, they presumably would know what I need
more than I know. Does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, it's it's kind of sad that think that's the
world we live in now. Or you got to have
an escort to walk to your car because you potentially
a political person.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So I guess my initial thing about you was was
there any argument? And I was like, now, that would
be ridiculous. They probably were like, you is gonna is
there gonna be something something wrong? Ron was on it,
so Ryan, you were actually on it. You could have
been in the administration.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I'm glad they took this the step to protect you.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
But it just when I walked out, there was no
one there. It was me and Jen Smith that used
to work at the hair Leader and unless she was
plotting something, you're good was there for she's a professor there.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Josiah has her in class.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, for people who don't know Jen Smith, she was
the football writer for UK for many many years. She's
now a professor at UK. So anyway, I enjoyed it.
A lot of you all listeners came saw you in
the craft and some of you came up and said hello,
so appreciate that. And in talking about, of course the conversation,
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one of things Matt's Mark story said about and I
all thought was interesting. So I thought a test to you,
how many sports at UK has UK committed to giving
Nile money rev share two? So let's uh, let's let's
just let's talk about how many? Because I don't think
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Mark said this during the thing. I don't think I
had heard it. So this was Mark from Mark's story.
Take a guess how many sports at UK are getting
rev share in ale money? True?
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Trying to run through sports in my head, just say
them out. You think, well, I mean you get the
big two, then you got women's basketball, volleyball, what would
be next? Baseball? Okay, that's a surefire thing.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
I was gonna take even men's and women's soccer, men's
and women's swimming, men's and women's golf.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
So what's your total? I'm gonna go eighteen eighteen sports
at UK? What do you think? Ten? Ten? Shannon, what
do you think? Twelve? The answer is six six. They're
giving it to men's basketball, men's football, women's basketball, baseball,
volleyball and softball and that's it. Track, yeah, getting it
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even though we have like a national mealyptics go soccer
not getting it. I thought for sure, golf not getting soccer.
Golf don't surprise me. Track surprises me. Should have gotten softball. Now,
so we have six guess I mean.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Louisville has well, I'm not just say that four.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, five, Louisville's not giving it to softball. So Louis's
down to giving it to only five sports, which means
one of Louisville sports at least is getting money that
is going to UK softball is going to another. It's
an interesting thought because on the one hand, you go, well,
that stinks for the other programs. But on the other
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hand is Mark pointed out every dollar you give to
baseball or to softball, or to volleyball or to whatever
is dollars, you're not getting mean to your football and
basketball team, and that this is the constant balancing that
schools have to do. But I think it was it
was kind of startling to me to hear that we're
only doing six, because I guess I would have thought Ryan,
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they're gonna do a lot more, but at six, and
apparently at six we are doing more than most other schools.
Most other schools, by the ways, are doing football, basketball,
women's basketball, baseball, and then they're picking one other one
other one. They're picking one other one. Maybe it's for
them for like Oklahoma softball, for another school it might
be this, but they're just picking another one.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I really thought, knowing Mitch Baron artaway he is with
his other Olympic sports, he's trying to be fair. I
thought he would kind of. It's just can't be fair
in this world.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Can't be fair in this world. You just can't. If
you're fair, you're losing. This is a competition. It's not fair.
I mean, this is a socialist sport that has had
to enter into capitalism. People don't like when I use
that phrase, but it's the truth. College sports has been
socialism for eighty years. And it's always funny to me
that the people who were the most athletes should be paid,
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people like me are people who people think are on
the left. We take the capitalist position oddly, whereas the
people who wanted athletes to be paid the least are
often people on the right who are taking a socialist position,
which is share it between the things, etc. And this
college is that college sports are socialists that are now
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having to become capitalists.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
They just thought, Yeah, you know, I wish we've had
some great tennis players. I wish they could get paid,
But you just do sports don't have attendance when you
go to them, and they're not bringing anything in Meny
and them aren't even on SEC network plus. So if
people aren't going to the games, you hate it for
those athletes. But the slice of the pie, it's just
hard to show.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
You Do you think that six goes down to five
or four in a few years. Do you think there
comes a point where Kentucky says, well, we're not even
gonna do you know? Mark Story made the point, if
you're a softball player and you're choosing between Kentucky and Louisville,
how do you choose Louisville. Now Kentucky by the very
nature that they're giving money is saying that are taking
softball more seriously than Louisville is.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
But to answer your question, I think it's highly possible
that that number could get smaller as the years go on.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I do too. I mean, you could have a world
where it's two.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Football, basketball or I think they probably have to have
one women's sport, but you could see a world where
it was three, right, yeah, three maybe four, where you
have one school that's been good at something for a
long time.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
But I agree with it not including those others, even
though it stinks to say that out loud, that those
kids don't get it.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
It's just they're not doing anything in scholarship. They're not
getting like, rather not share money.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
They don't have the big cash in their pocket. But
they're also not bringing much cash in.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
So it was interesting. It is interesting because I wouldn't
have said eighteen, but I probably would have been like Drew,
I would have probably said ten. I thought for sure
to hear that at six and at Louisville it's five.
And they also said, by the way, Bellerman did not
opt into the REV share, Wow, really and would you
like to know why? Yeah? Because bell because part of
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the REV Share you have to cut your scholarships down.
And Bellerman is so focused on keeping male students enrolled
that they want to keep their sports programs with big
numbers so that they can keep male students enrolled. So
they'd rather keep the scholarship numbers big and give no money. Wow.
So Bellerman is the only school in Kentucky, uh Division
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I school that is not doing ripshare. I guess probably
any sport.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Interesting, there's probably some other smaller schools in other states.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Just like Carl's point is, schools with like small Catholic
or small Liberal or not liberal arts schools are going
to have to do that because such a huge portion
of their student body is now student as athletes. Sure,
and they don't want to see this. The scholarship numbers
get reduced because then like Trancy, I think fifty percent
of the students that go to Trancy now play a sport.
Georgetown's like that where I teach.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah, Kentucky Weslin's definitely like that.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
That's so that's why Bellerman, I guess apparently opted out
of it. If I'm nine to two eighth twenty two
eighty seven, Texa Machine is seven seven two seven seven
four five two five four, will take a break very back, sorry,
quarterback of this Coday Sports Radio. I'm nine twenty two
eighty seven. UK has just announced a rep Arena is
announcing after the UK Perdue exhibition game Friday, there will
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be a postgame party right outside the arena. What Cam
Thompson singer. Who's Cam Thompson. Do we know Cam Thomas
do not? You know what Cam Thompson's song, Shannon, No, Well,
Cam Thompson's gonna be out rocking. It's free. So as
you walk out Vine Street, so I guess that's walking
out what walking out where the fountains are? Yeah, apparently
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Cam Thompson will be out. They'll have concessions and it
is a UK basketball postgame party after the Purdue game.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Well, the Purdue games at six, so it's early in
our Friday game.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah. So the PDU game is actually at six. It's
not at seven like people think. So it's at six
and then I guess starting as soon as the game's over, Uh,
they will have Downtown part of it. I guess they're
gonna have Downtown closed.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
I don't look, but excited to have Cam Thompson in
the background of the Thompson's gonna be here, Shannon, That's right,
it's exciting. I can't wait to be there for that.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Well, I mean, you don't know Cam tom maybe is yeah,
I mean doing something music is? What kind of music is?
I'm gonna say it's bro country just by Yeah, I
would say so. Maybe that's some news. All right, Let's
talk about some uh, some chatter from yesterday. Last night,
Virginia Tech version of Kentucky Sports Radio, so they're kind
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of number one website for sports listed said a hot
name for Virginia Tech right now behind the scenes as
the coach is Mark Stoops. Kentucky fans heard that news
after it was put out by KSR and reacted with
I think excitement. It is fair to say there's a
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little bit of j believe. I think the problem is
people are gonna get excited, which is going to make
Virginia people not be interested. But this conversation, for what
it's worth, I don't think he's gonna be the Virginia
Tech coach. But are we just gonna keep having this?
Is this a case where Kentucky fans are already like, hey,
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someone b R John Tyson in Arkansas. That and just
the fact that Stoop's name was in this report made
me think that his agent has maybe thrown around that
he'd be interested in something. Oh you think this is Stoops'
his agent throwing his name out there while he would
be considered for it.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Like I think most people were surprised his name was
on there. And the only thing I could think of
that would kind of get it on the list is
if behind the scenes somebody's talking, because I don't think Virginia.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
That would be good. But I mean, if you're someone
who wants to see a change, it would be good
that Stoop's agent is trying to promote him out there.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
But I took it is that that might actually be
happening behind the scenes. On the Stoops end, you took
it as good news. Most people would say, yeah, that's
good news. Stoops might even with it through his AI
might be looking around for a backup plain.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
You know, there are so many jobs open and gonna
come open. A name like Mark Stoops for a job
at Virginia Tech, they probably would jump at the chant.
I think to be interested in Mark Stoops because who
else they gonna get get?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Some guys say, who else are they gonna get? You
got a chance to get an SEC? I have to
I have to push back on that. I think our
fans sometimes overvalue this job. Like, what makes you think
Virginia Tech's a better job in Kentucky? I don't, Okay,
So why would Virginia Tech want a coach that Kentucky
fans want gone.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I think a guy who's had success in the n SEC,
even know they hadn't had success last a.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Couple of years. But do you think by Virginia Tech standards,
that's a team that played for the National Championship twenty
five years a.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Long time ago. Still though it's a football school and
they've been they've had to struggle a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
And you think they'd want the coach that Kentucky fans
don't want. I'd say, would would we want the coach
Virginia Tech doesn't want? No, Well, you already you think
they're a better program than that. I didn't say that,
you think we're a better program than them? Yes, and
Stoops had success here in the SEC. Why do you
think we're a better program than them?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I think because we're in the SEC. We had we've
had we had a couple of ten win seasons now
not on the history, I mean like right now, last
ten years.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, so I think there's a little truth to it.
I mean, we're in the SEC that's a lot better
than the ACC. Yep, we could probably pay as much
or more than their coach. But Drew I would not
say we're a better program, not a better program.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I can agree with Ryan. I might be a better
spot right now with SEC money, And if you're a
coach you want to get in the SEC.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
We're not historically a better programmer, not even really close. Yeah.
I mean I saw someone list the thirteen or fourteen
jobs that are likely to be open, and I saw
a Kentucky fan say, well, we're the fifth best job
of that group. I don't know what the standard for
that is. I mean, if you just want to say
the sixteen best the sixteen jobs in the SEC are
the sixteen best jobs, then that's fine. I don't think
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most coaches look at it like that. I mean I
think coaches partially look at it and go can I
win there? And by the can I win their circumstance,
this is a hard still a hard job, right because
we have to play against those other teams. You could
go to Virginia Tech and if you get that rolled
or turned around, how many teams in the ACC are
definitively better than you as a program Clemson in Miami,
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Florida State.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yeah, you could be next, and you would jump at
the chance to get back to the SEC.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Let's say you get Kentucky at its best. Let's say
you get us peak rolling. Gotcha, where do we rank
our program in the top sixteen? Even at our peak?
We're not going to be higher than Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Texas,
Texas A and m Tennessee, Oklahoma. Those are ten schools
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that there will be nothing we can do that our
job is more attractive than their. Probably never. So then
really you're like, Okay, is our job more attracted than band? Probably?
Is our drive more attracted the Mississippi state? Yeah? Probably?
But then like South Carolina, Old miss Arkansas, Missouri, we're
kind of in that group, aren't we.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Definitely. And if I put myself in Virginia Tech's fans
shoes right now that list that came out of the
eight names on it, I like Mark Stoops as a person,
I would not be excited compared to the other names
that were on that list. So I doubt there's many
Virginia Tech fans that saw that and thought, ooh, we
should get Stoops of this bunch because it had James Franklin, H.
Gaulish at South Florida, some Raw Mullin, and had all
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these hot.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Names, So I think if you're a Virginia tech, I mean,
Beemer is probably the one they want the most because
his dad was a coach. Here, Eric, go ahead, Eric.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Oh, yes, they're every time.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
I'm couching on the spot, and I pretty much love
where I'm at. But yesterday I called in and I
was I forgot my main point about REP. Is there
anything that you could see possible doing to make it
easier on older folk?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
No?
Speaker 9 (22:02):
Or because I mean I mean I'm just sitting there
for REP and it's just there.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I mean, what would you do that?
Speaker 9 (22:07):
And you just feel so? Can you expand it and
make it a little flatter?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I mean, do you how much? Say a couple college?
I mean, we're sitting here trying to figure out what
we're gonna do about now. Yeah, I mean we're we're
we're about to start paying players twenty one dollars a year.
The government is shut down. Where are we getting the
money to make REP flatter?
Speaker 9 (22:30):
I mean that is a very valid point.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I'm just I didn't know, so No, I agree with you.
It is very hard for older folks to get around reppery.
It really is. It's very steep. But I don't really think.
I think if the things that are gonna happen soon,
major changes at RUP are probably not anytime soon. We're
gonna take a break. If I'm nine two eight twenty
two eighty cent, it's KSR. TJ. Smith, personal injury attorney
called TJ. He'll make them pay.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
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Here's Matt Jones, Cam Thompson, this is Cam Thompson.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
That's what you're gonna get. Give me, give me like
ten seconds of it here, all right, So not my thing,
but but people like this, right, Like if I turned
on ninety eight one to Bull, I could hear this, yes, right,
Like this is he's got like probably a T shirt, hat, jeans, right,
something about whiskey truck. Yeah. I mean there's a woman
(23:28):
laughed team. But he's gonna get him back. And ain't
no more country than he is. Like that's no, I
mean this, I'm not I'm not even mocky, like this
is this is what people like. So he's from Owensboro apparently,
so I'm let's go cam Thompson.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Ryan's hometown. I'm not familiar with him, but I I
as I said when you first mentioned it. I just
like that they're doing it. Whether it's someone I've heard
of or not, they're just adding more and more for
fans to experience. Totally, pat him on the back for that, totally.
Who is nine twenty two eighty seven. A couple open lines, Uh,
give us a shout out? What you what would you
do if you were the football indoor basketball coach?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
One person writes, Matt, I don't think Virginia Tech would
want stoops, but there probably are schools that will. The
question is do we think he will want to go somewhere.
I can't imagine he's gonna want to do this again.
But then again, like we say all this, you beat
Texas Saturday, it's a completely different conversations, completely different, completely
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different conversation, Which is what's weird about sports in general,
is like you can have this whole strong opinion.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
If he won next week, then everybody go, well, I mean,
you know, James Franklin had Oregon down just three weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, again, that's a great point. James springs up at
halftime over time and he'd be the number one team
in the country. And two and a half weeks later,
he's fired, he's.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Gone, you know, so things can change, you know, That's
what I was saying. There's so many jobs open, like
this year, high level jobs. They're gonna go get the
high level candidates. Is that elevate stupids? That Stoops is
a better candidate in some school's eyes?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Who I still I don't understand what you're asking me.
Who do you think is out there that's got a
good job that wants Mark Stoops.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I'm saying, like guys like Pinch State in Florida, they're
gonna get the high level guys.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Okay, he said, someone's gonna have to settle because there's
just too many of them.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Agree with. But I think the but the kind of
coaches we want is gonna be what schools like Virginia
Tech one they're gonna want Will Stein ye right, or
John some roll Like, don't you think that's who they're
gonna want or.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
They're gonna want them? It's there will be some schools
where there's been Virginiajack Hey, maybe Kentucky might be us
that make a higher That's a little disappointing just because
there's not enough candidates out that I can.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Completely agree with the Bears won last night. Thrill. It
was a thriller. Normally we lose that game. We won
it last night. Caleb Williams. The Commanders fumbled it, uh
due to a northeaster? What is that northeaster? Channing? Do
you know what a northeaster is? Having a nor eastern
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like we're.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
It was like a ton of rain that came through
nor easter, Like I hear that with like.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Rain that phrase, But what makes it any different than
like what we had here a week and a half ago?
What is it? Northeastern? Just that the Northeasterners decided if
it happens where they live.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
It's something with their wind up there. I don't that's
the farthest I can go.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
What does it do? It spins?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
And what a storm or wind blowing from the northeast,
especially in New England as a nor'easter.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
You so it's just wind and they named it. Yeah,
see that's what that is what gets me about the Northeast.
They just mean they just call it like a yes,
we have a bad storm, and then that's the name
of a type of weather. And then people will be like,
well people in Kentucky get wind and it's tough to
live in Kentucky. They get the bluegrassers. Yeah, that's what
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it is. So anyway, well the northeaster hit and then
they fumbled fumbled it, and well it was very wet
and rainy and they fumbled it.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Did you have faith in the field goal in the
middle of the North diastry because they on the wind
and the rain and that guy they just signed him
that day?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Did you see that The Bears just signed the guy
that afternoon, kicker, and he kicked. They interviewed the player
at the end. They interviewed Kayleb Williams. They said, what
do you think about the kicker? And he said, I
didn't know who he was.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Well, he's the one that the Niners let go because
he couldn't make anything.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, a few weeks. But Shannon, how would you like
that if you're the kicker they got, they interview the guy.
He goes, well, I didn't know who that guy was,
but I'm glad he made.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
If you're the kicker, you're barely on the team until
they need you to kick a field goal to win
the game.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Then is that they ignore you the rest of the time?
And it's got to be a hard job because they
either love you or they want you to just go away.
You miss a kick, you're done. You miss one kick
and you're over. I mean it's over.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
You don't even practice with the team or anything.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
You know your own you look not like them.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Well, how about just a few weeks ago, the Falcons
kicker kicks a game winner and all on the field.
She's like, do you even know your teammates? He's like no,
and he's staying an interview and he shakes his hand out.
He's like, hi, I'm so, and so he met them
in the postgame interview after kicking the game win.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
The kicker for the Packers yesterday was a substitute teacher
two weeks ago. Two weeks ago, he was substitute teaching.
Then he's kicking for the Packers and has a game
winning Kickers are so weird.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
The Cowboys Brd Aubrey could be one of the best
kickers ever and he just got tired of soccer because
he got old and couldn't run anymore. And he's like, well,
I'll go try to play football, and he's automatic.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I mean, think about Max moved across the world to
play a sport. He'd never watched uh because they were like, well,
you'd be good at this, and then he won the
award for best kicker in the country.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
This tells me in America, our youth are not practicing enough.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I'm trying to be quarterbacks. If you want your kid
to be an athlete, why would you not just teach
him to be a kicker? Again, U's Max Stuffy. This
would be the equivalent of like me going, somebody going,
you know, you'd be good cricket moving to Australia and
then I win the National Cricket Player of the Year
award two years ago. He did not even watch football.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
My favorite thing is he visited Memphis and Alabama and
didn't know there was a difference between the programs.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
No, he visited Memphis and Alabama and he was like, well,
Memphis is a bigger city, so it must be better.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
So he got there obviously, but on his way over
he had no idea there was a difference in Memphis
and Alabama.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
His stories about when he met with Nick Saban, and
Nick Saban was like, I don't know about these Australians,
and you know, then he ended up winning the award
and Saban went up to him and said I was wrong.
Oh he did.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
I didn't know that part of the store.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
He said, I wish I because because he want Max
wanted to go to Alabama. Basically that guy brought back.
Then they bring these Australians over here. Yeah, and it
was I think I think Drew's right. It was Memphis, Alabama, Kentucky,
but Kentucky was like third. He went to Memphis and
Alabama and he was like, well, I guess I'll probably
(29:55):
go to Memphis. It's a bigger city. Then he got
there and he's like, oh, Alabama's better. He tried out
for saving and I think Saban was like, eh, Australians
and then later saving them, and that's how we ended
up with wow and then later saving apologies.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Saban did apologize to him.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, So Kyle, go ahead, Kyle.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
So, last year on the basketball team, Robinson was the
only guy that really knew Pope system. This year we
got about four guys I think that are pretty familiar
with what we're gonna run. You gotta imagine that's going
to lead to some early season dominance like the like
of which we haven't seen since like Fox and Monk
and I'll hang up and listen.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Well, we were pretty good early season last year. I
mean remember we beat Duke Yeah in one of the
early games. I do think this team will be cohesive
quicker due to the guys coming back, wouldn't you think so? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
In a couple of times this offseason, Pope has really
gone out of his way to talk about every team
he's ever had his freshman make big jumps to his
sophomore year, just and how he coaches him and how
he teaches in his system. He says that's always the
biggest jump. I mean that's kind of natural anyway, freshman
is sophomore. But he's talking about he's like, look out
for Colin Chandler, Trent Noa. I have a history of
doing this. Second year guys have big breakthroughs and just
(31:08):
the way I have it all set up, So I
would expect that of even Brandon Garrison being a second
year guy, even though it's not a sophomore. I think
a lot of the returning players will see it.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Oh taga Away was named preseason SEC Player of the Year.
I looked at the preseason SEC Players of the Year.
The list is fascinating. Yeah, First of all, only one
freshman in the history of the SEC has been named
preseason SEC Player of the Year. Can you guess the
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only freshman to ever be named preseason SEC Player of
the Year.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I guess I'll take John Wall.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Then you take John Wall.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
What do you think I'm gonna say? It's not even
a Kentucky player?
Speaker 8 (31:47):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (31:50):
But I can't think of one. I guess I'll just
have to say Davis to not have dead air here.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
But what do you think?
Speaker 5 (31:54):
I don't believe it's him?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Shaquille O'Neill, Ben Simmons, Simmons.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Ben's Simmons is the no Kentucky player has ever been.
Would you like to know the Kentucky players of the
cal era named preseason SEC Player the year? We've had three? Okay,
this is a great trivia question. I'm doing trivia tomorrow
at ks Bar. If I did this one, I don't
think many people would get. I can't believe I'm giving
this one up because this would be a great one.
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Can you give me the three Cow players? Oway is
the first one of the Stoops of the Pope era.
Give me the three cow players named preseason SEC Player
the year. Oscar Oscar is one I'm gonna say Terrence Jones,
Karrence Jones. When Terrence Jones in twenty twelve, when Anthony
(32:44):
Davis was pre was player of the year, Terrence Jones
was preseason Player of the year. Can you get the third?
Speaker 8 (32:49):
You have one? Run?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
No trying to Harrison twins. Yeah, Actually, you know what,
there are four. Aaron Harrison was one of Aaron Harrison
was preseason Player of the Year in twenty fifteen. But
that wasn't even the one I was thinking of. There
were four because Aaron Harrison was one.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
It's got to be just anyone that made a surprise comeback.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Patrick Patterson, way about. Patrick Patterson was the other SEC
Preseason Player of the Year under cow So why of
the last twenty preseason players of the year, guess how
many one preseason.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Player but one player of the it actually won the award?
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah? Only three? Not many. So while I'm excited about Otega,
the history of that award has not been great. But
Mark Sears last year got it, uh huh. But in
general it doesn't happen. So just an interesting piece of fact.
Terrence Jones, I didn't think anybody would get Terrence Jones. Well,
I knewdn't have given you the hint that there were
no fresh.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Well, I knew there were any freshmen, I said Davis,
But I could just couldn't think of another SEC freshman.
But I knew Kentucky didn't have one. Yeah, Ben Simmons
is the only one. And of course he didn't win
it to win the award either.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
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Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio AF. I'm nine
twenty two eighty seven. One person rides Matt Saturday. They're
saying it may rain during the game. Are we having
a bluegrasser during the during.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
The Texas game? Is that what it's supposed to supposed
to rains. I haven't seen that.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I haven't seen it either of it. Would that help
or hurt us? Help?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
You think so?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
If we can get it where all we gotta do
is run the ball, that's our best advantage. Slow them down.
Let us run the ball and running over here.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
I mean there's probably some truth to that, right. I
don't think I'm worried we could get shot out their defense.
I know they have arch their defense. We just saw
what they did Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
It's a game where we cannot fall behind. Oh, if
we're behind, it's it's our over under.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Team total is fourteen points on DraftKings. You gotta think
to beat Texas, you're gonna need a lot more than that.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, well, I do think Lexington, by the way, the
next two weekends are going to be Lexington at their finest. Yeah.
I would say to you like this, if if you
just think about the next two weekends in Lexton. You
start with this weekend, which is Parents' weekend, Parents Weekend,
Keenland Blue White game UK Texas for the first time
(35:36):
in forever. Right, this weekend's awesome. The next weekend, Purdue
number one team in the country in basketball Keenland. I
think they have some sales during that, and then Tennessee
Tennessee and it's Halloween weekend or the lead into Halloween. Like,
these next two weekends in Lexington are going to be
(35:57):
pretty great. And if you don't have a hotel, forget it.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
This is one of those stretches where sometimes I consider
AIRBNBM owned house just going to someone's couch because Lexing
is gonna be made.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I mean, it's gonna be Mayhem, It's gonna be Mayheim.
Starting Thursday. Adam Sandler's here Thursday. That's true, He's here
this week, you know, so you get Adam Sandler Thursday night.
I mean Rupp's got Adam Sandler, Blue White Thompson Thoms
Jones Trivia starting Matt Joms Trevia Wednesday, and I mean
at the party just starts one person rights. Matt could
UK use a violation in a clause to get to
(36:27):
the stoops his contract to justify his firing. No no,
and even the clause that like he can't go talk
to other schools. I think UK probably gave there's something.
There's basically a rule and contract law that if you've
let him do it in the past, you can't then
(36:48):
later use it as the justification. So remember with cal
he had a thing that he couldn't talk to other schools,
but he had never officially done it. Then he admitted
he did it, and and UK was like, all right,
you're going can't do that with Stoops because Stoops acknowledged
he talked to Texas A h and we didn't do
anything about it. So I think if he did it again,
UK couldn't say anything.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
That's you know, it's so interesting you think about that
that he almost left his for Texas A and M and.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
It might be the reason they can't get rid of
and they can't get rid of him. Mitch has done
many things well. The negotiation of that contract will go
down as a low point David, probably second only to
maybe the Billy Gillespie. Are you doing map? Yeah? Go ahead, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (37:35):
So I think there's no way Stoops is really even
a candidate for Virginia Tech with his Beamers, with his
in Shane's relationship as a father, Frank Beemer is a
god at Virginia Tech. I went on a soccer visit
with I coach a large soccer league here in Georgia.
(37:57):
And when I went there, I coached Jake ke Hardaway
And when I went there, Frank Beinger was just walking around.
So he's like the godfather there.
Speaker 9 (38:06):
No, he is.
Speaker 10 (38:06):
He don't like my kid, I don't like you.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
But there's been some talk that Shane doesn't want that
job because he doesn't want to be in his dad's
footsteps all the time. Now, he may lose the South
Carolina job if they don't do better, and then he'll
probably take any job he could get. But that's always
been the statement about Shane is that he kind of
didn't want to be in his dad's shadow.
Speaker 10 (38:27):
So on James Franklin, could a school pay him one
hundred thousand a year, let Penn State pay the rest
of his salary and use that money for nil It's
a great question.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
I appreciate the call that has been done in the past.
I don't know what the rules are. It depends on
the wording of the Penn State contract. But yes, it
has been suggested over the years that schools would go
I'll get James Franklin. He's getting eight nine million dollars
a year from Penn State. We'll pay him one hundred
and fifty thousand and let Penn State pay the rest.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Of the contract, and if he wants the job, of
course he'd take it.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
And then we'll use that nine million to get in
an ail. Wouldn't be the dumbest thing in the world.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
I've wondered that too, even lower, like can we sign
you for a dollar and just let them cover your
entire salary and.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Anyway, and now I can actually get players at the
other school.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Hitting my bank account one way or another.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Mike, go ahead, Mike, Yeah, man, uh.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
This deal with Stups. I was there thinking about it
last couple of days, and I just don't think we
can afford to pay my office, you know, just a
firing because if you're a young and up and coming coach,
are you coming to Kentucky?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I mean that seems like, yeah, okay, So if I'm
an established coach, I think that's a harder thing. But
if you're a young up and coming like, let's just
think about when we hired Stoops. I mean he was
coming from Florida State when Florida State was Florida State,
never been a head coach, and he wanted the job.
(39:56):
So yeah, I do think like take will Style, take
will Stein at organ I am certain Finish. Yeah, I
am certain will Stein at Orgon would take this job
unless a better job was offered. Now, if a better
job was offered, he might take that one. But if
it was will Stein was offered this job, he would
(40:18):
take it. I'm I know for a fact he would
take it. Now, if he's offered Florida, he might take
Florida over Us. But but so yes, I do think
they're up and coming coaches who would do it.
Speaker 8 (40:29):
But don't you think States kind of stay too long?
Because you know, we all thought he did that. Nobody
could ever correct.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
I did not think anyone could win him. Yeah, I
think he stayed too long. I think I do.
Speaker 8 (40:44):
I do.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I think you're right, and I appreciate the call. I
think that there is a shelf life for coaches, and
you have to decide. I look at coaching his ten
year grooves. Okay, everybody's got ten years in him if
they're good. But then about your ten or eleven, you
got to look in the mirror and say, now, am
I ready for the second ten years? Because you've got
(41:07):
to restart. Ryan, Chances are you gonna have to lean
relearn some rules. The game's gonna have changed. You're not
gonna be able to have rested on your laurels. Now,
am I ready for number? Two? Remember? Nick Saban did this?
He got through ten years, kind of hit a bump
and he said, you know what I'm gonna do it?
Hired Lane Kiffin changed, changed everything. Then he had a
(41:28):
great second ten year run. Cal Perry amazing ten year run,
got to twenty twenty, could change, decided not to as
hired as boys stoops great ten year run, gets to
twenty what twenty two, twenty three? Time to change doesn't happen.
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I think guys get ten years and then they got
to decide, am I ready to be a different version
of myself for the next ten And if they don't,
that's when things start to fall apart. That's my thesis.
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(00:56):
I know that I'm with old. Everybody's gotten old on me.
What's up? We're sitting here talking about basketball and football.
Pregame shows. I'm in a room full of people, Ryan, Drew, Billy,
Ryan who's been doing these shows for fifteen years, Billy
who's produced them for years. Drew's been on for a
few years as well. None of them could remember the
times for the pregame shows that we've always done. Everyone
(01:20):
but me was going we started our basketball pre game
show three hours before and I'm like, no, two and
a half, and Billy's like, it's three. Ryan's like it's three.
Idn't and it's it's always been to it.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I'm not even on the show, and I know it's
two and a half.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It's always been two and a half. So but but
it's now that time. We're doing pregame for Purdue basketball Ryan,
next weekend. We played the number one team in the
country next Friday. That was the conversation.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
We got all these pregame shows for football, basketball postgame shows,
trying to get a lank, and they all started different times.
Y'all have different links.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, we're getting into that time where like we'll be
on I want you to just get just think about it.
And I'm not complaining. I'm complaining on behalf of the audience.
I want you to think about how much you could
hear my voice if you wanted to next weekend. Okay,
just think about this Friday morning KSR, you know are remote.
(02:15):
Then Basketball pregame Show three pm, Basketball postgame show whenever
the Predudy game's over, Saturday, Kentucky Tennessee Football pregame Show
two hours, Kentucky Tennessee Football postgame Show, Sunday morning, Matt
Myron on ESPN Sunday Night Cover zero.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
That's a lot of radio. It's a lot of mass.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
If you listen to me that whole time, then your
wife has to hate you or your husband has to
hate you. That's too much me. It's too much me
for me.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
I'm in the same boat with the football podcast a
happy hour now. I'm like people. At some point, I
don't want to just be talking at every moment of
every day.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
But hours, that's four, three six, I mean, that's that's
a lot out. I'll do that every day. See I
love this. Yes, you always do that. You do three
hours a day. But then you do your music. You're
not doing the whole show. You're introing the song. Yeah,
but I'm talking. But you I love you, Shannon, But
(03:17):
you tape that in twenty minutes. But I'm talking, though,
is my point for twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Whatever, It's fine, tough guy.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Twenty minutes you're like, welcome back, this is food fighters.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
You know what, what's crazy?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You said that though?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
There there will be people though that will listen to
every second of all your shows.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, I am very grateful for them doing That's just
a lot. That's just a lot, a lot of Matt,
a lot of Matt. And by the end of that
week and then we come right back your Monday morning,
another full week. So I'm probably gonna give the Tennessee
football post game. Let Billy do it because Billy likes
doing it, because Billy's angry at people during the postgame show.
And I think that I think that's to be a
(04:00):
post game show after Tennessee where people will want to
just be angry. So Billy might be the vibe drew
for it. Actually, well, I had.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
The South Carolina game and you talk about talking the
whole time. There were so many calls and people so angry.
It's one of those just let them go. And I
think Tennessee might be the same. Willy might be a
good person for the just let everybody. Let everybody go.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yesterday, Ryan, I want to thank the listeners who did
come out to hear the Wendell Ford lecture about it,
and I all thought it went really well good. It
was good. We had a big crown, you know. I
I put on a jacket. Yeah you mentioned the pants.
(04:42):
You know, it was fine. I have reress pants. I
mean these I couldn't do the formal thing. Well, I
just don't do it very often anymore. I have all
these suits from my TV days and I don't get
to wear a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
So was there a moment where it got a little
tense and you're questioning them back and forth?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Or I'm going to be tense. We're not fighting each other.
It was just about trying to teach people about NIL.
It wasn't like let's go to war, so.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Like a lot like a political debate, you weren't.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
There's nothing political about NIL. It's just do you It's
just like college sports rules.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Yeah, that's why I just asked him. I was there
was a situation where somebody asked a question. Question.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
It was not heated, not heated at all. I did
have a moment though, that was a little worrisome. So
I got there early because you know campus, you can't
park there. You try to drive on Euclid Avenue at
four thirty in the afternoon. Just forget it. Let me
just forget it. They had saved us spots in front
of the singletary, so that helps. So it had in
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big letters VIP and our name.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I almost took a picture of it VIP Matt John.
So I was the first one there. So I parked,
I went and they had a dressing room for us.
Really right, Shannon had a dressing room makeup.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Did you know you get a writer?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Uh? I did not get a writer. I bought a
coke zero out of the machine and then I said
it and waited. Well, all the all the people that
are on the panel get there and we're all We're
all sitting there in the room, and then this woman
comes in and goes, man, can I speak with you
for a second. I walk outside and I'm like, oh,
what are they gonna say? And there's a cop there
and they go, uh, this is officer blah blah blah.
(06:17):
And I was like, and he goes, uh, he's going
to take you after this is over. And for a
minute I was like, take you where What did I do? Yeah,
this is a frank what happened? And they go, no, no,
he's going to escort you to your car when it's over.
And I was like, oh, well, I guess who's escorting
(06:40):
and every and they're like, no you and I was
like oh, and they go we just thought it would
be good. Well that kind of got me parano Yeah,
for sure, Shannon. You know, like, what was there a
threat on me? Walk car? Yeah, I've been on I
come on that campus all the time, and so they
(07:03):
had this guy like kind of walk me out. And
then somebody mentioned as I was leaving, you know, they're
doing this on campus now for anybody who is at
all people could see as political post the Charlie Kirk thing. Wow,
and that was really like, I mean, it was very nice.
The guy was nice, but like there was a co
(07:25):
I have to admit it kind of got me paranoid.
Like so then I'm starting to look around. It was
it's the weirdest thing. Somebody gives you something to make
you feel more comfortable, and I was completely comfortable, and
then it almost switched it off.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Because it's something you don't need. It's like, what, why
do I need that, well.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Certainly something I didn't think i'd need. But then when
they tell you, they presumably would know what I need
more than I know. Does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, it's it's kind of sad that think that's the
world we live in now. Or you got to have
an escort to walk to your car because you potentially
a political person.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So I guess my initial thing about you was was
there any argument? And I was like, now, that would
be ridiculous. They probably were like, you is gonna is
there gonna be something something wrong? Ron was on it,
so Ryan, you were actually on it. You could have
been in the administration.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I'm glad they took this the step to protect you.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
But it just when I walked out, there was no
one there. It was me and Jen Smith that used
to work at the hair Leader and unless she was
plotting something, you're good was there for she's a professor there.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Josiah has her in class.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, for people who don't know Jen Smith, she was
the football writer for UK for many many years. She's
now a professor at UK. So anyway, I enjoyed it.
A lot of you all listeners came saw you in
the craft and some of you came up and said hello,
so appreciate that. And in talking about, of course the conversation,
(08:49):
one of things Matt's Mark story said about and I
all thought was interesting. So I thought a test to you,
how many sports at UK has UK committed to giving
Nile money rev share two? So let's uh, let's let's
just let's talk about how many? Because I don't think
(09:09):
Mark said this during the thing. I don't think I
had heard it. So this was Mark from Mark's story.
Take a guess how many sports at UK are getting
rev share in ale money? True?
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Trying to run through sports in my head, just say
them out. You think, well, I mean you get the
big two, then you got women's basketball, volleyball, what would
be next? Baseball? Okay, that's a surefire thing.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
I was gonna take even men's and women's soccer, men's
and women's swimming, men's and women's golf.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
So what's your total? I'm gonna go eighteen eighteen sports
at UK? What do you think? Ten? Ten? Shannon, what
do you think? Twelve? The answer is six six. They're
giving it to men's basketball, men's football, women's basketball, baseball,
volleyball and softball and that's it. Track, yeah, getting it
(10:11):
even though we have like a national mealyptics go soccer
not getting it. I thought for sure, golf not getting soccer.
Golf don't surprise me. Track surprises me. Should have gotten softball. Now,
so we have six guess I mean.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Louisville has well, I'm not just say that four.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, five, Louisville's not giving it to softball. So Louis's
down to giving it to only five sports, which means
one of Louisville sports at least is getting money that
is going to UK softball is going to another. It's
an interesting thought because on the one hand, you go, well,
that stinks for the other programs. But on the other
(10:51):
hand is Mark pointed out every dollar you give to
baseball or to softball, or to volleyball or to whatever
is dollars, you're not getting mean to your football and
basketball team, and that this is the constant balancing that
schools have to do. But I think it was it
was kind of startling to me to hear that we're
only doing six, because I guess I would have thought Ryan,
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they're gonna do a lot more, but at six, and
apparently at six we are doing more than most other schools.
Most other schools, by the ways, are doing football, basketball,
women's basketball, baseball, and then they're picking one other one
other one. They're picking one other one. Maybe it's for
them for like Oklahoma softball, for another school it might
be this, but they're just picking another one.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I really thought, knowing Mitch Baron artaway he is with
his other Olympic sports, he's trying to be fair. I
thought he would kind of. It's just can't be fair
in this world.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Can't be fair in this world. You just can't. If
you're fair, you're losing. This is a competition. It's not fair.
I mean, this is a socialist sport that has had
to enter into capitalism. People don't like when I use
that phrase, but it's the truth. College sports has been
socialism for eighty years. And it's always funny to me
that the people who were the most athletes should be paid,
(12:03):
people like me are people who people think are on
the left. We take the capitalist position oddly, whereas the
people who wanted athletes to be paid the least are
often people on the right who are taking a socialist position,
which is share it between the things, etc. And this
college is that college sports are socialists that are now
(12:23):
having to become capitalists.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
They just thought, Yeah, you know, I wish we've had
some great tennis players. I wish they could get paid,
But you just do sports don't have attendance when you
go to them, and they're not bringing anything in Meny
and them aren't even on SEC network plus. So if
people aren't going to the games, you hate it for
those athletes. But the slice of the pie, it's just
hard to show.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
You Do you think that six goes down to five
or four in a few years. Do you think there
comes a point where Kentucky says, well, we're not even
gonna do you know? Mark Story made the point, if
you're a softball player and you're choosing between Kentucky and Louisville,
how do you choose Louisville. Now Kentucky by the very
nature that they're giving money is saying that are taking
softball more seriously than Louisville is.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
But to answer your question, I think it's highly possible
that that number could get smaller as the years go on.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I do too. I mean, you could have a world
where it's two.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Football, basketball or I think they probably have to have
one women's sport, but you could see a world where
it was three, right, yeah, three maybe four, where you
have one school that's been good at something for a
long time.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
But I agree with it not including those others, even
though it stinks to say that out loud, that those
kids don't get it.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
It's just they're not doing anything in scholarship. They're not
getting like, rather not share money.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
They don't have the big cash in their pocket. But
they're also not bringing much cash in.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
So it was interesting. It is interesting because I wouldn't
have said eighteen, but I probably would have been like Drew,
I would have probably said ten. I thought for sure
to hear that at six and at Louisville it's five.
And they also said, by the way, Bellerman did not
opt into the REV share, Wow, really and would you
like to know why? Yeah? Because bell because part of
(13:59):
the REV Share you have to cut your scholarships down.
And Bellerman is so focused on keeping male students enrolled
that they want to keep their sports programs with big
numbers so that they can keep male students enrolled. So
they'd rather keep the scholarship numbers big and give no money. Wow.
So Bellerman is the only school in Kentucky, uh Division
(14:22):
I school that is not doing ripshare. I guess probably
any sport.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Interesting, there's probably some other smaller schools in other states.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Just like Carl's point is, schools with like small Catholic
or small Liberal or not liberal arts schools are going
to have to do that because such a huge portion
of their student body is now student as athletes. Sure,
and they don't want to see this. The scholarship numbers
get reduced because then like Trancy, I think fifty percent
of the students that go to Trancy now play a sport.
Georgetown's like that where I teach.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah, Kentucky Weslin's definitely like that.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
That's so that's why Bellerman, I guess apparently opted out
of it. If I'm nine to two eighth twenty two
eighty seven, Texa Machine is seven seven two seven seven
four five two five four, will take a break very back, sorry,
quarterback of this Coday Sports Radio. I'm nine twenty two
eighty seven. UK has just announced a rep Arena is
announcing after the UK Perdue exhibition game Friday, there will
(15:13):
be a postgame party right outside the arena. What Cam
Thompson singer. Who's Cam Thompson. Do we know Cam Thomas
do not? You know what Cam Thompson's song, Shannon, No, Well,
Cam Thompson's gonna be out rocking. It's free. So as
you walk out Vine Street, so I guess that's walking
out what walking out where the fountains are? Yeah, apparently
(15:38):
Cam Thompson will be out. They'll have concessions and it
is a UK basketball postgame party after the Purdue game.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Well, the Purdue games at six, so it's early in
our Friday game.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah. So the PDU game is actually at six. It's
not at seven like people think. So it's at six
and then I guess starting as soon as the game's over, Uh,
they will have Downtown part of it. I guess they're
gonna have Downtown closed.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
I don't look, but excited to have Cam Thompson in
the background of the Thompson's gonna be here, Shannon, That's right,
it's exciting. I can't wait to be there for that.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Well, I mean, you don't know Cam tom maybe is yeah,
I mean doing something music is? What kind of music is?
I'm gonna say it's bro country just by Yeah, I
would say so. Maybe that's some news. All right, Let's
talk about some uh, some chatter from yesterday. Last night,
Virginia Tech version of Kentucky Sports Radio, so they're kind
(16:32):
of number one website for sports listed said a hot
name for Virginia Tech right now behind the scenes as
the coach is Mark Stoops. Kentucky fans heard that news
after it was put out by KSR and reacted with
I think excitement. It is fair to say there's a
(16:53):
little bit of j believe. I think the problem is
people are gonna get excited, which is going to make
Virginia people not be interested. But this conversation, for what
it's worth, I don't think he's gonna be the Virginia
Tech coach. But are we just gonna keep having this?
Is this a case where Kentucky fans are already like, hey,
(17:15):
someone b R John Tyson in Arkansas. That and just
the fact that Stoop's name was in this report made
me think that his agent has maybe thrown around that
he'd be interested in something. Oh you think this is Stoops'
his agent throwing his name out there while he would
be considered for it.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Like I think most people were surprised his name was
on there. And the only thing I could think of
that would kind of get it on the list is
if behind the scenes somebody's talking, because I don't think Virginia.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
That would be good. But I mean, if you're someone
who wants to see a change, it would be good
that Stoop's agent is trying to promote him out there.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
But I took it is that that might actually be
happening behind the scenes. On the Stoops end, you took
it as good news. Most people would say, yeah, that's
good news. Stoops might even with it through his AI
might be looking around for a backup plain.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
You know, there are so many jobs open and gonna
come open. A name like Mark Stoops for a job
at Virginia Tech, they probably would jump at the chant.
I think to be interested in Mark Stoops because who
else they gonna get get?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Some guys say, who else are they gonna get? You
got a chance to get an SEC? I have to
I have to push back on that. I think our
fans sometimes overvalue this job. Like, what makes you think
Virginia Tech's a better job in Kentucky? I don't, Okay,
So why would Virginia Tech want a coach that Kentucky
fans want gone.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I think a guy who's had success in the n SEC,
even know they hadn't had success last a.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Couple of years. But do you think by Virginia Tech standards,
that's a team that played for the National Championship twenty
five years a.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Long time ago. Still though it's a football school and
they've been they've had to struggle a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
And you think they'd want the coach that Kentucky fans
don't want. I'd say, would would we want the coach
Virginia Tech doesn't want? No, Well, you already you think
they're a better program than that. I didn't say that,
you think we're a better program than them? Yes, and
Stoops had success here in the SEC. Why do you
think we're a better program than them?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I think because we're in the SEC. We had we've
had we had a couple of ten win seasons now
not on the history, I mean like right now, last
ten years.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, so I think there's a little truth to it.
I mean, we're in the SEC that's a lot better
than the ACC. Yep, we could probably pay as much
or more than their coach. But Drew I would not
say we're a better program, not a better program.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I can agree with Ryan. I might be a better
spot right now with SEC money, And if you're a
coach you want to get in the SEC.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
We're not historically a better programmer, not even really close. Yeah.
I mean I saw someone list the thirteen or fourteen
jobs that are likely to be open, and I saw
a Kentucky fan say, well, we're the fifth best job
of that group. I don't know what the standard for
that is. I mean, if you just want to say
the sixteen best the sixteen jobs in the SEC are
the sixteen best jobs, then that's fine. I don't think
(19:58):
most coaches look at it like that. I mean I
think coaches partially look at it and go can I
win there? And by the can I win their circumstance,
this is a hard still a hard job, right because
we have to play against those other teams. You could
go to Virginia Tech and if you get that rolled
or turned around, how many teams in the ACC are
definitively better than you as a program Clemson in Miami,
(20:21):
Florida State.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yeah, you could be next, and you would jump at
the chance to get back to the SEC.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Let's say you get Kentucky at its best. Let's say
you get us peak rolling. Gotcha, where do we rank
our program in the top sixteen? Even at our peak?
We're not going to be higher than Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Texas,
Texas A and m Tennessee, Oklahoma. Those are ten schools
(20:51):
that there will be nothing we can do that our
job is more attractive than their. Probably never. So then
really you're like, Okay, is our job more attracted than band? Probably?
Is our drive more attracted the Mississippi state? Yeah? Probably?
But then like South Carolina, Old miss Arkansas, Missouri, we're
kind of in that group, aren't we.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Definitely. And if I put myself in Virginia Tech's fans
shoes right now that list that came out of the
eight names on it, I like Mark Stoops as a person,
I would not be excited compared to the other names
that were on that list. So I doubt there's many
Virginia Tech fans that saw that and thought, ooh, we
should get Stoops of this bunch because it had James Franklin, H.
Gaulish at South Florida, some Raw Mullin, and had all
(21:35):
these hot.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Names, So I think if you're a Virginia tech, I mean,
Beemer is probably the one they want the most because
his dad was a coach. Here, Eric, go ahead, Eric.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Oh, yes, they're every time.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
I'm couching on the spot, and I pretty much love
where I'm at. But yesterday I called in and I
was I forgot my main point about REP. Is there
anything that you could see possible doing to make it
easier on older folk?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
No?
Speaker 9 (22:02):
Or because I mean I mean I'm just sitting there
for REP and it's just there.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I mean, what would you do that?
Speaker 9 (22:07):
And you just feel so? Can you expand it and
make it a little flatter?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I mean, do you how much? Say a couple college?
I mean, we're sitting here trying to figure out what
we're gonna do about now. Yeah, I mean we're we're
we're about to start paying players twenty one dollars a year.
The government is shut down. Where are we getting the
money to make REP flatter?
Speaker 9 (22:30):
I mean that is a very valid point.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I'm just I didn't know, so No, I agree with you.
It is very hard for older folks to get around reppery.
It really is. It's very steep. But I don't really think.
I think if the things that are gonna happen soon,
major changes at RUP are probably not anytime soon. We're
gonna take a break. If I'm nine two eight twenty
two eighty cent, it's KSR. TJ. Smith, personal injury attorney
called TJ. He'll make them pay.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio present it by Stockton Mortgage.
Here's Matt Jones, Cam Thompson, this is Cam Thompson.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
That's what you're gonna get. Give me, give me like
ten seconds of it here, all right, So not my thing,
but but people like this, right, Like if I turned
on ninety eight one to Bull, I could hear this, yes, right,
Like this is he's got like probably a T shirt, hat, jeans, right,
something about whiskey truck. Yeah. I mean there's a woman
(23:28):
laughed team. But he's gonna get him back. And ain't
no more country than he is. Like that's no, I
mean this, I'm not I'm not even mocky, like this
is this is what people like. So he's from Owensboro apparently,
so I'm let's go cam Thompson.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Ryan's hometown. I'm not familiar with him, but I I
as I said when you first mentioned it. I just
like that they're doing it. Whether it's someone I've heard
of or not, they're just adding more and more for
fans to experience. Totally, pat him on the back for that, totally.
Who is nine twenty two eighty seven. A couple open lines, Uh,
give us a shout out? What you what would you
do if you were the football indoor basketball coach?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
One person writes, Matt, I don't think Virginia Tech would
want stoops, but there probably are schools that will. The
question is do we think he will want to go somewhere.
I can't imagine he's gonna want to do this again.
But then again, like we say all this, you beat
Texas Saturday, it's a completely different conversations, completely different, completely
(24:22):
different conversation, Which is what's weird about sports in general,
is like you can have this whole strong opinion.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
If he won next week, then everybody go, well, I mean,
you know, James Franklin had Oregon down just three weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, again, that's a great point. James springs up at
halftime over time and he'd be the number one team
in the country. And two and a half weeks later,
he's fired, he's.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Gone, you know, so things can change, you know, That's
what I was saying. There's so many jobs open, like
this year, high level jobs. They're gonna go get the
high level candidates. Is that elevate stupids? That Stoops is
a better candidate in some school's eyes?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Who I still I don't understand what you're asking me.
Who do you think is out there that's got a
good job that wants Mark Stoops.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I'm saying, like guys like Pinch State in Florida, they're
gonna get the high level guys.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Okay, he said, someone's gonna have to settle because there's
just too many of them.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Agree with. But I think the but the kind of
coaches we want is gonna be what schools like Virginia
Tech one they're gonna want Will Stein ye right, or
John some roll Like, don't you think that's who they're
gonna want or.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
They're gonna want them? It's there will be some schools
where there's been Virginiajack Hey, maybe Kentucky might be us
that make a higher That's a little disappointing just because
there's not enough candidates out that I can.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Completely agree with the Bears won last night. Thrill. It
was a thriller. Normally we lose that game. We won
it last night. Caleb Williams. The Commanders fumbled it, uh
due to a northeaster? What is that northeaster? Channing? Do
you know what a northeaster is? Having a nor eastern
(25:59):
like we're.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
It was like a ton of rain that came through
nor easter, Like I hear that with like.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Rain that phrase, But what makes it any different than
like what we had here a week and a half ago?
What is it? Northeastern? Just that the Northeasterners decided if
it happens where they live.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
It's something with their wind up there. I don't that's
the farthest I can go.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
What does it do? It spins?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
And what a storm or wind blowing from the northeast,
especially in New England as a nor'easter.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
You so it's just wind and they named it. Yeah,
see that's what that is what gets me about the Northeast.
They just mean they just call it like a yes,
we have a bad storm, and then that's the name
of a type of weather. And then people will be like,
well people in Kentucky get wind and it's tough to
live in Kentucky. They get the bluegrassers. Yeah, that's what
(26:53):
it is. So anyway, well the northeaster hit and then
they fumbled fumbled it, and well it was very wet
and rainy and they fumbled it.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Did you have faith in the field goal in the
middle of the North diastry because they on the wind
and the rain and that guy they just signed him
that day?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Did you see that The Bears just signed the guy
that afternoon, kicker, and he kicked. They interviewed the player
at the end. They interviewed Kayleb Williams. They said, what
do you think about the kicker? And he said, I
didn't know who he was.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Well, he's the one that the Niners let go because
he couldn't make anything.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, a few weeks. But Shannon, how would you like
that if you're the kicker they got, they interview the guy.
He goes, well, I didn't know who that guy was,
but I'm glad he made.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
If you're the kicker, you're barely on the team until
they need you to kick a field goal to win
the game.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Then is that they ignore you the rest of the time?
And it's got to be a hard job because they
either love you or they want you to just go away.
You miss a kick, you're done. You miss one kick
and you're over. I mean it's over.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
You don't even practice with the team or anything.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
You know your own you look not like them.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Well, how about just a few weeks ago, the Falcons
kicker kicks a game winner and all on the field.
She's like, do you even know your teammates? He's like no,
and he's staying an interview and he shakes his hand out.
He's like, hi, I'm so, and so he met them
in the postgame interview after kicking the game win.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
The kicker for the Packers yesterday was a substitute teacher
two weeks ago. Two weeks ago, he was substitute teaching.
Then he's kicking for the Packers and has a game
winning Kickers are so weird.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
The Cowboys Brd Aubrey could be one of the best
kickers ever and he just got tired of soccer because
he got old and couldn't run anymore. And he's like, well,
I'll go try to play football, and he's automatic.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I mean, think about Max moved across the world to
play a sport. He'd never watched uh because they were like, well,
you'd be good at this, and then he won the
award for best kicker in the country.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
This tells me in America, our youth are not practicing enough.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I'm trying to be quarterbacks. If you want your kid
to be an athlete, why would you not just teach
him to be a kicker? Again, U's Max Stuffy. This
would be the equivalent of like me going, somebody going,
you know, you'd be good cricket moving to Australia and
then I win the National Cricket Player of the Year
award two years ago. He did not even watch football.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
My favorite thing is he visited Memphis and Alabama and
didn't know there was a difference between the programs.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
No, he visited Memphis and Alabama and he was like, well,
Memphis is a bigger city, so it must be better.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
So he got there obviously, but on his way over
he had no idea there was a difference in Memphis
and Alabama.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
His stories about when he met with Nick Saban, and
Nick Saban was like, I don't know about these Australians,
and you know, then he ended up winning the award
and Saban went up to him and said I was wrong.
Oh he did.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
I didn't know that part of the store.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
He said, I wish I because because he want Max
wanted to go to Alabama. Basically that guy brought back.
Then they bring these Australians over here. Yeah, and it
was I think I think Drew's right. It was Memphis, Alabama, Kentucky,
but Kentucky was like third. He went to Memphis and
Alabama and he was like, well, I guess I'll probably
(29:55):
go to Memphis. It's a bigger city. Then he got
there and he's like, oh, Alabama's better. He tried out
for saving and I think Saban was like, eh, Australians
and then later saving them, and that's how we ended
up with wow and then later saving apologies.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Saban did apologize to him.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, So Kyle, go ahead, Kyle.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
So, last year on the basketball team, Robinson was the
only guy that really knew Pope system. This year we
got about four guys I think that are pretty familiar
with what we're gonna run. You gotta imagine that's going
to lead to some early season dominance like the like
of which we haven't seen since like Fox and Monk
and I'll hang up and listen.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Well, we were pretty good early season last year. I
mean remember we beat Duke Yeah in one of the
early games. I do think this team will be cohesive
quicker due to the guys coming back, wouldn't you think so? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
In a couple of times this offseason, Pope has really
gone out of his way to talk about every team
he's ever had his freshman make big jumps to his
sophomore year, just and how he coaches him and how
he teaches in his system. He says that's always the
biggest jump. I mean that's kind of natural anyway, freshman
is sophomore. But he's talking about he's like, look out
for Colin Chandler, Trent Noa. I have a history of
doing this. Second year guys have big breakthroughs and just
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the way I have it all set up, So I
would expect that of even Brandon Garrison being a second
year guy, even though it's not a sophomore. I think
a lot of the returning players will see it.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Oh taga Away was named preseason SEC Player of the Year.
I looked at the preseason SEC Players of the Year.
The list is fascinating. Yeah, First of all, only one
freshman in the history of the SEC has been named
preseason SEC Player of the Year. Can you guess the
(31:36):
only freshman to ever be named preseason SEC Player of
the Year.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I guess I'll take John Wall.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Then you take John Wall.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
What do you think I'm gonna say? It's not even
a Kentucky player?
Speaker 8 (31:47):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (31:50):
But I can't think of one. I guess I'll just
have to say Davis to not have dead air here.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
But what do you think?
Speaker 5 (31:54):
I don't believe it's him?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Shaquille O'Neill, Ben Simmons, Simmons.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Ben's Simmons is the no Kentucky player has ever been.
Would you like to know the Kentucky players of the
cal era named preseason SEC Player the year? We've had three? Okay,
this is a great trivia question. I'm doing trivia tomorrow
at ks Bar. If I did this one, I don't
think many people would get. I can't believe I'm giving
this one up because this would be a great one.
(32:21):
Can you give me the three Cow players? Oway is
the first one of the Stoops of the Pope era.
Give me the three cow players named preseason SEC Player
the year. Oscar Oscar is one I'm gonna say Terrence Jones,
Karrence Jones. When Terrence Jones in twenty twelve, when Anthony
(32:44):
Davis was pre was player of the year, Terrence Jones
was preseason Player of the year. Can you get the third?
Speaker 8 (32:49):
You have one? Run?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
No trying to Harrison twins. Yeah, Actually, you know what,
there are four. Aaron Harrison was one of Aaron Harrison
was preseason Player of the Year in twenty fifteen. But
that wasn't even the one I was thinking of. There
were four because Aaron Harrison was one.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
It's got to be just anyone that made a surprise comeback.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Patrick Patterson, way about. Patrick Patterson was the other SEC
Preseason Player of the Year under cow So why of
the last twenty preseason players of the year, guess how
many one preseason.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Player but one player of the it actually won the award?
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah? Only three? Not many. So while I'm excited about Otega,
the history of that award has not been great. But
Mark Sears last year got it, uh huh. But in
general it doesn't happen. So just an interesting piece of fact.
Terrence Jones, I didn't think anybody would get Terrence Jones. Well,
I knewdn't have given you the hint that there were
no fresh.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Well, I knew there were any freshmen, I said Davis,
But I could just couldn't think of another SEC freshman.
But I knew Kentucky didn't have one. Yeah, Ben Simmons
is the only one. And of course he didn't win
it to win the award either.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
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Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio AF. I'm nine
twenty two eighty seven. One person rides Matt Saturday. They're
saying it may rain during the game. Are we having
a bluegrasser during the during.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
The Texas game? Is that what it's supposed to supposed
to rains. I haven't seen that.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I haven't seen it either of it. Would that help
or hurt us? Help?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
You think so?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
If we can get it where all we gotta do
is run the ball, that's our best advantage. Slow them down.
Let us run the ball and running over here.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
I mean there's probably some truth to that, right. I
don't think I'm worried we could get shot out their defense.
I know they have arch their defense. We just saw
what they did Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
It's a game where we cannot fall behind. Oh, if
we're behind, it's it's our over under.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Team total is fourteen points on DraftKings. You gotta think
to beat Texas, you're gonna need a lot more than that.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, well, I do think Lexington, by the way, the
next two weekends are going to be Lexington at their finest. Yeah.
I would say to you like this, if if you
just think about the next two weekends in Lexton. You
start with this weekend, which is Parents' weekend, Parents Weekend,
Keenland Blue White game UK Texas for the first time
(35:36):
in forever. Right, this weekend's awesome. The next weekend, Purdue
number one team in the country in basketball Keenland. I
think they have some sales during that, and then Tennessee
Tennessee and it's Halloween weekend or the lead into Halloween. Like,
these next two weekends in Lexington are going to be
(35:57):
pretty great. And if you don't have a hotel, forget it.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
This is one of those stretches where sometimes I consider
AIRBNBM owned house just going to someone's couch because Lexing
is gonna be made.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I mean, it's gonna be Mayhem, It's gonna be Mayheim.
Starting Thursday. Adam Sandler's here Thursday. That's true, He's here
this week, you know, so you get Adam Sandler Thursday night.
I mean Rupp's got Adam Sandler, Blue White Thompson Thoms
Jones Trivia starting Matt Joms Trevia Wednesday, and I mean
at the party just starts one person rights. Matt could
UK use a violation in a clause to get to
(36:27):
the stoops his contract to justify his firing. No no,
and even the clause that like he can't go talk
to other schools. I think UK probably gave there's something.
There's basically a rule and contract law that if you've
let him do it in the past, you can't then
(36:48):
later use it as the justification. So remember with cal
he had a thing that he couldn't talk to other schools,
but he had never officially done it. Then he admitted
he did it, and and UK was like, all right,
you're going can't do that with Stoops because Stoops acknowledged
he talked to Texas A h and we didn't do
anything about it. So I think if he did it again,
UK couldn't say anything.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
That's you know, it's so interesting you think about that
that he almost left his for Texas A and M and.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
It might be the reason they can't get rid of
and they can't get rid of him. Mitch has done
many things well. The negotiation of that contract will go
down as a low point David, probably second only to
maybe the Billy Gillespie. Are you doing map? Yeah? Go ahead, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (37:35):
So I think there's no way Stoops is really even
a candidate for Virginia Tech with his Beamers, with his
in Shane's relationship as a father, Frank Beemer is a
god at Virginia Tech. I went on a soccer visit
with I coach a large soccer league here in Georgia.
(37:57):
And when I went there, I coached Jake ke Hardaway
And when I went there, Frank Beinger was just walking around.
So he's like the godfather there.
Speaker 9 (38:06):
No, he is.
Speaker 10 (38:06):
He don't like my kid, I don't like you.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
But there's been some talk that Shane doesn't want that
job because he doesn't want to be in his dad's
footsteps all the time. Now, he may lose the South
Carolina job if they don't do better, and then he'll
probably take any job he could get. But that's always
been the statement about Shane is that he kind of
didn't want to be in his dad's shadow.
Speaker 10 (38:27):
So on James Franklin, could a school pay him one
hundred thousand a year, let Penn State pay the rest
of his salary and use that money for nil It's
a great question.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
I appreciate the call that has been done in the past.
I don't know what the rules are. It depends on
the wording of the Penn State contract. But yes, it
has been suggested over the years that schools would go
I'll get James Franklin. He's getting eight nine million dollars
a year from Penn State. We'll pay him one hundred
and fifty thousand and let Penn State pay the rest.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Of the contract, and if he wants the job, of
course he'd take it.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
And then we'll use that nine million to get in
an ail. Wouldn't be the dumbest thing in the world.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
I've wondered that too, even lower, like can we sign
you for a dollar and just let them cover your
entire salary and.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Anyway, and now I can actually get players at the
other school.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Hitting my bank account one way or another.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Mike, go ahead, Mike, Yeah, man, uh.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
This deal with Stups. I was there thinking about it
last couple of days, and I just don't think we
can afford to pay my office, you know, just a
firing because if you're a young and up and coming coach,
are you coming to Kentucky?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I mean that seems like, yeah, okay, So if I'm
an established coach, I think that's a harder thing. But
if you're a young up and coming like, let's just
think about when we hired Stoops. I mean he was
coming from Florida State when Florida State was Florida State,
never been a head coach, and he wanted the job.
(39:56):
So yeah, I do think like take will Style, take
will Stein at organ I am certain Finish. Yeah, I
am certain will Stein at Orgon would take this job
unless a better job was offered. Now, if a better
job was offered, he might take that one. But if
it was will Stein was offered this job, he would
(40:18):
take it. I'm I know for a fact he would
take it. Now, if he's offered Florida, he might take
Florida over Us. But but so yes, I do think
they're up and coming coaches who would do it.
Speaker 8 (40:29):
But don't you think States kind of stay too long?
Because you know, we all thought he did that. Nobody
could ever correct.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
I did not think anyone could win him. Yeah, I
think he stayed too long. I think I do.
Speaker 8 (40:44):
I do.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I think you're right, and I appreciate the call. I
think that there is a shelf life for coaches, and
you have to decide. I look at coaching his ten
year grooves. Okay, everybody's got ten years in him if
they're good. But then about your ten or eleven, you
got to look in the mirror and say, now, am
I ready for the second ten years? Because you've got
(41:07):
to restart. Ryan, Chances are you gonna have to lean
relearn some rules. The game's gonna have changed. You're not
gonna be able to have rested on your laurels. Now,
am I ready for number? Two? Remember? Nick Saban did this?
He got through ten years, kind of hit a bump
and he said, you know what I'm gonna do it?
Hired Lane Kiffin changed, changed everything. Then he had a
(41:28):
great second ten year run. Cal Perry amazing ten year run,
got to twenty twenty, could change, decided not to as
hired as boys stoops great ten year run, gets to
twenty what twenty two, twenty three? Time to change doesn't happen.
(41:52):
I think guys get ten years and then they got
to decide, am I ready to be a different version
of myself for the next ten And if they don't,
that's when things start to fall apart. That's my thesis.
Take a break talk basketball right after this. KSR
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