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November 17, 2025 • 43 mins

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Speaker 3 (00:59):
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Speaker 4 (01:06):
Welcome back I number two Tucky Sports Radio. It is
if I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven
here at uh in Orchard Park. You the text machine
is seven seven two seven seven four five two five four.
A lot of people still saying nice things about you, Billy.
One person says, you know, tell Billy I feel bad
for him. I got the same treatment when I carried

(01:29):
a plastic suitcase once. I know how it feels. Now.
Granted that was a middle school trip in the nineteen nineties,
but I still get it.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Don't feel bad for me. I've got the best job
in the world and this was a fun trip.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
It's the attitude that is a good attitude. I wish
Shannon had that attitude more. You have the best job
in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Wait till Billy's been in this thing for twenty one years,
it'll change.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Has it changed for Drew? Drew's always looks forward to
these trips.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
He's actually probably my favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
This's been a lot insince g really yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Mean shorter to say that, yeah, but it's been a
lot fun. I mean we've packed a lot into forty
eight hours. Yeah, you know, I mean we go home.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Today and we'll be back home. You go home today.
I haven't committed to that.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Oh you're gonna stay here here. Well, let's let's talk
about being in Buffalo for a second, because you you know,
we not only did the stuff, we went to the game.
First of all, I've been to two NFL games this year.
They've both been two of the best games of the season.
I mean I was at Bears Bengals that was amazing.
Then last night was amazing. Buffalo Tampa Bay, back and forth,

(02:33):
back and forth, forty four thirty two a score at
Gommi Josh Allen Baker Mayfield. It was excellent. It was
a lot of fun, cold, but an exciting crown. I mean,
that's that was a great That was a great environment,
great time.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
Yeah, you know how to pick your NFL games, and
I know two for two. It was just a few
weeks ago on cover zero was talking about how it
would be a bucket list to go see the Bills,
not knowing that would happen just a few weeks later.
So just being here and getting a taste of how
that fan base is was incredible. They did not disappoint.
I had the highest bar for them, and they jumped
right over it.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Drew was really in his element during the tail I
wish you could have been there with us. I'm sure
it came through on the videos, but just like going
from Tequila Shot to Buffalo Wing and making these videos,
it was a lot of.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yes, I was doing ESPN, so I couldn't walk around
the tailgates, but you could just I mean, I could
just since all day. That's one of the happier times
I've seen Drew was that whole environment. I mean, I
was trying to think there. I'm sure there have been
other experiences like that, but like he just you just
seemed like you were more sort of happy and thrilled
in this Buffalo Bill's place than most anyone.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
I'm a tailgater, I don't get to tell gate much anymore,
and then you're gonna send me to one of the
best tailgates in the country. Yeah, I honestly wish I
could have done more. The worst part of the whole
thing is what most people would kill to do. When
I was in that press box. The free food's nice,
but it's snowing, and Bill's fans are going crazy, and
it's silent in there, and I'm sitting next to billy
dress shoes as the guys. I gotta get out there,
and I went to the top row and you met

(04:03):
somebody from Louisville.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Actually, this is an example. Bills fans not only do
they just say, hey, come to our tailgate, eat our food.
I mean you can walk up to any tailgate and
they will give you a hug and just say eat
our blue cheese. I'm just walking around. I think people
noticed that I was lingering, and they're just like, hey, man,
you want to sit down, And they just slid in
and I just sit in their row. And then it
turns out one of them is from Louisville. But they
had a cool story. Their dad was moved here from

(04:26):
Syria and learned football as in Buffalo, and then now
they live in all parts of the country and they
brought their grandkids and brought him back for another game.
So they had like this whole family experience. And here
I am sitting with them and cheering for the Bills. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Everybody here is like so nice. I mean in Kentucky
people are nice too, Like I mean most people who
come to Kentucky the first time, they're like, oh, they're nice.
You know, you get this sort of stereotype though of
people in New York and Buffalo is in New York
and people are extremely They're just extremely nice. I mean
people at the tailgates at the games, even the meat

(05:00):
folks are nice. There were a couple of women at
the bar last night in their mid to late fifties
trying to take Mario home nice. Like there's like there's
I mean that's a different kind of nice, but like
there there's Uh, it's just a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
I will say, though, after the game, once their booze
has kicked in, some of them start to show their nuts.
So nice.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
What a couple people were just yelling at Billy about
his shoes on our walk home. Yeah. Yeah, they were
just yelling, where'd you get those shoes? Peacot guys in
the trench coat.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
It was like, man, someone yelled from a school bus
about Billy's trench coat. We're just walking by in the dark.
I can't believe they even.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
So it's funny is they're not even Kazar listeners. People.
There's something about your face that just makes people want
to give you a hard time.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
I'm all business, so I guess that's they didn't vibe
with some people and Bill's mafia. But you know, Drew
was in the press box and every time Buffalo have
a big play, they'd start high five and Drew through
the glass. Yeah, that's how out of place.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
So let's talk about the wings for because everybody always
wants to know about the wings when you come to Buffalo.
So here's my take on the wings all right. So,
like in Kentucky, what wings means depends on the type
of place because people cook them differently. So like at
Kspar we smoke them. There aren't a lot of places
that smoke them in Kentucky. It makes it taste different.
I love it. It's my favorite kind. But it's a

(06:20):
longer process. So then you go like a place. Sometimes
the other places I like that are good, like the
Kentucky Wing King place you took me to over there
in gray Line. They like deep fry, different kind of taste,
also really good. So I like both of those. What's
the place up in northern Kentucky we go that does
the double thing Barley corns. Barley Corns by way, I

(06:43):
think those for me are the three best wing places
in Kentucky. You go us the Wing King Guy and
Barley corns, but they're three different ways to cook it.
What I've learned in Buffalo is when they say wings,
there's only one way they're talking about. They're just talking
about frying it once, but not the way we not

(07:05):
breading it like we do like we do it like
wing King does, just frying it. Remember we tried to
do that at our little wing thing and we didn't
We couldn't do it very well. It didn't turn out
very good. So they don't even consider a different way.
And it's everywhere tastes the same. But it's good because

(07:25):
it's like everybody. It's almost like everybody in Buffalo gets
taught there's only one way to make a wing, and
this is the way you're gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
It's the opposite of Ryan Lemon. Consistent.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
It's very consistent, but like if you come from Kentucky,
you may not like it's it's not liking Likestad where
there are so many different kind It's one thing. This
is what a Buffalo wing is. And you can't ask
Shannon for ranch. They don't have it. They just give
you blue cheese. That's your only choice because they think
that's the only thing you should eat it with.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
As somebody that didn't like blue cheese. I loved the
blue cheese that I have on this trip. So it
converted me always Ran. I'm always a Ranch.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
You won't get it here. They will not. They will
give it to you, Yeah, they will not. This is
so for them. Ordering wings is one thing, one condiment.
There are no other choices, which I find kind of interesting.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
And when we were tailgating, we spent so long looking
for Pento Run, that famous fan. I mean, he's got
his own Wikipedia page. Yeah, And I finally found him
and I'm interviewing and in the interview I said Ranch.
The man like his face changed and he gave me
this look. I had to apologize. I panicked. I'm like,
I knew better. I'm sorry, I'm a rookie.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
It won't do it.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
Like we don't say Ranch, they won't do.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
And I had at least a couple of wings in
like four different locations, and they were all exactly the same,
and they were all very good.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
We ate wings that were fried in a World War
two helmet at run pental Run's tailgate.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
That's really strange. I don't think that's what people thought
they were doing in World War Two. It was gonna
have their helmets with wings.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Well, we talked about this on covers Eero. There was
a filing cabinet they grilled meat in the World War
two helmet and wings like it was like anything butt
grills and.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
This and this stadium is in a neighborhood. And I
don't mean that like theoretically. I mean it is in
a neighborhood. There are just houses across the street. It's
a two lane road, right, so getting in and out
is brutal. But it's a two lane road. There's just
like it's just in a neighborhood. That's weird. I can't

(09:22):
think of any green bay'ss got that a little bit.
But Green Bay also has like a convention center and
it's got a shop, Like there's a lot of stuff
around it in Buffalo. This is just a neighborhood and
there's nothing around it except a handful of bars.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yep, and everything worked out at the bar. You did
the pregam show at right.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah, that was good. It's just I would say this,
if you love football, you gotta come here. Once I
thought that I would say the best NFL experience is
Green Bay. But I kind of think, Drew, this might
be better. I mean, green Bay's good. I've been to
like eleven stadiums and green Bay would be second. But

(10:03):
I kind of think this is first.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Yeah, since first for me, it's not even close. In fact,
when we get home, Titans, we got to talk.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
So are you dropping the time?

Speaker 5 (10:11):
I'm too loyal. I'll never drop them. I don't have
that personality trait to abandon them. But I will say
I had more fun at this Bills game than any
Titans game I've ever been to. And I've readen the
mini and I've been to big ones. I've even went
to Bills Titans Monday Night football in Nashville and yelled
at Bills fans. So they gave me a football experience.
I've never seen you. You're contemplating, truck. I'll never truly

(10:34):
leave them, leave them, but I will. I am a
Bills fan. Like if the Bills are playing the Chiefs,
that used to be a neutral game for me. I
will be cheering for the Bills in any game from
moving forward.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Didn't they break up with you like they send you
an email?

Speaker 5 (10:44):
The Titans they break up with me. We're going through
it a little bit they need. They got some things
to figure out, but I'm too loyal to leave them.
But I am a I have added the bills to
my fandom.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
I also would say it was cool to see all
the Kentucky guys here. Right, you had Ray Davis, Maxwell, Harrison,
d Walker. We talked to all of them after the game.
Dion's a little quieter, but but Ray Davis and Maxwell
Harriston couldn't have been nicer to us, right, I mean
Dion was nice too, but Ray and Maxwell. Ray took
a picture with us on the field. Maxwell and his family.

(11:15):
His family was like, ks are like they were excited.
That was neat to see all these Kentucky guys up here.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Going into the locker room was cool.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
So yeah, what do you think of that?

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Uh, you know when the guys put clothes.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
On weird channing, it's weird. I'm not going to tell you.
They open up the locker room and all these dudes
are naked.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Like a heads up, like, hey, media is killing I.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Think they just I don't think. I don't know if
people don't care what they're walking like, they're just naked.
Like there's just that stuff everywhere, and I I don't
need that. Like, we tried to talk to Ray Davis
and he was naked, and I was like, Gray, you
can put clothes on. We'll give you a minute, you know.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
And I knew, like we've done NBA, NBA is the
same way. I knew what we were going into because we've done.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
It more naked than there's a lot more people. It's
just naked everywhere and like a lot of body sizes, and.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
You know, Billy obviously felt overdressed all day, but I
felt overdressed in there. I thought about just.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Gowing on it. I thought it was a code. I
thought I was gonna have to get. I wasn't eager
because I mean, it's a it's a it's something.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah, everybody was nice down in the locker room area,
besides the Tampa Bay staffer that almost knocked ru over them.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
But there weren't. But there weren't many media too for
an NFL game. I felt like there were, well, I
mean there were there are more media. UK like that
UK U of L game had significantly more media than
this NFL game. Really, oh yeah, significantly more media. So
that was that that's kind of weird that there's not

(12:51):
you know, there were there's just not that many people there.
And in the locker room, you know, Josh Allen's just
sitting there by himself. I felt like, well, I mean,
maybe he needs a converse, Maybe you need somebody to
talk to.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
What network TV shows he knows.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
We talked about this on Cover zero. I was also
surprised that the postgame meal was not as good for
buffal I mean, Buffalo is just beaten Tampa Bay on
national television. You know you would think is that when
they give the players a meal, Shannon, don't you think
they'd give them something nice? Right? Mistake? Just on the
way out the door, they just grab a Jersey mics up.

(13:28):
But that's it till you get and only six inches.
You don't even get a foot long.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
To speak for yourself. I love Jersey Mikes.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
I like Jersey Mikes. I was actually pretty jealous when
I saw it.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
I was like, do you think that would be the
postgame meal for the Buffalo Bills. Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I don't know, Like I wouldn't know if they'd put
steak and mashed potatoes out there and do the whole
nine yards. They may just want to get home. Yeah,
you need to grab and go everybody's trying to get
to the house. They were excited though you said this
on cover zero, but millionaires are getting a free sandwich.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
People can be really rich, and if you give them
something free, they're gonna be Every single person loves free stuff.
I also love UK Federal credit. This was the first
time I'd ever really gotten to listen to the full
broadcast of a game. Shannon on this drive, I'm on

(14:17):
their way too much.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Oh, y'all, we know, we know.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, I mean it is for all y'all, but I
can see why people would want me not in their
lives after they listen to that every because it's a lot.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
It's every other break for four hours, five hours.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
Would you like to do it before I read the
would you like to do a quick impersonation of it? No? No,
I'm good, you can do it. Go ahead, No, I
won't give it to come on.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
No, I'd rather you do a different accent like they've
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Speaker 4 (14:47):
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KSL welcome back at this Tecky Sports Radio AF. I'm
nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. One person writes, Matt,
what do you think happens if Cutter Bowley wants to
cut Cutter Bully Comes doesn't want to come back, but

(15:30):
Stoops does. That would be a negative. That wouldn't That
would not That would not set the program up to
have a lot of popularity in the offseason.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
Yeah, the excitement is all the young quarterback and the
pieces around them.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
I mean you can, I think you can convince people
to get excited for a return to the regime, but
I think it's gonna have to include Cutter Bowl. If
it doesn't, then I think you're gonna have a very
hard time selling another year of this to uh to
a to a fan base.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
And keep cutter than it is Stoops.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Oh yeah, I mean no offense to Stoops. But that's
just that's just true. Yeah, yeah, I don't think there's any.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
Yeah, that's what all the excitement is. Even though the
defense has been playing well, the team's playing well, Bowie
flipping that switch has been the difference.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
We heard this weekend Drew you and I that that
some people, uh former players close to Stoops were frustrated
with with ks R and really maybe me and you
specifically saying that they think a lie of the negativity
around UK football is our fault, which you know, we

(16:40):
heard this during the Calperri regime, but there were actually
names associated to it this time, which was disappointing because
they were people that well we may or may not know,
were people that we liked when they either when they
played here or had a job here. You know, wait,
where's your take? Like, like when you hear that, what
do you what do you think?

Speaker 5 (17:01):
I mean? Have I probably been too critolical sometimes? Sure?
But really there's never any been though I don't really
here lately that was about to say here, like my
opinions come down to winning and losing, and they lost
eleven straight games at home. I mean, I don't have
much to say for you. When you've lost eleven straight
home games and you go two calendar years out scoring

(17:22):
more than two touchdowns, you are that's negative enough on
your own. You don't need anything I could add to
the situation that would make it worse.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
I think it's very convenient in all levels of life
to when things don't go well for you, say it's
the media's fault, right, Like I don't have to name
politicians that have done that, but like it's easy to
go things aren't going my way, it has to be
the media's fault. And I'm not saying the media can't
play a role. I certainly think they can. But in sports,

(17:54):
you know, in like politics, something can happen and you
can spin it as a winner a loss, depending on
how you word it. But in sports, you win or
you lose, like there's a result. You know, there's a
final result, and it would not matter what you and
I said. Eleven straight home losses are eleven straight. I

(18:16):
can't go on the radio and go, we actually won
that game, you know, well, nobody gets us twelve times
in a yeah, exactly, well, we'll see you next time.
I mean, so, I genuinely think when you start doing that,
nobody says it's the media's fault when things are going well, right,
so nobody goes, you know, things are going really well,

(18:38):
thank you media. You know, they end up taking credit
for themselves. So I but I was disappointed because I
think I we have had the reputation for the Stoops
era of being like way too positive.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
I've been getting killed.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
I mean, I've gotten positive, gotten crushed for that for years,
including during the end of cal of have people saying, well,
why are you so positive about football and you're not
about basketball? And now it just goes to show like
there's nothing you can do because there this was like
there's apparently a consistent theme amongst some guys of that

(19:14):
of that Stoops era thinking that. And I'm not talking
about the guys in Buffalo. They were They did not
say that to us at all. As a matter of fact,
they were the opposite. But I just, you know, I
don't really know, like there's just nothing you can do
about it. But I I hope that whatever happens in
these last two games, we get to a definitive place

(19:36):
where the fan base is like as close to unified
as they can be. Does that make sense?

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Yeah, definitely, also not I picked them to win six
games and go to Bowl this year, so I've been
pretty positive. It's almost like game's over. Did they win.
I'm happy, I'm upset, and we can just start there.
And that's usually my opinion.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
This is two different teams. I mean, I'll know, think
about the South Carolina game. I mean we got destroyed
at South Carolina. I think if you play that game
next week, Billy, we might beat him. We would probably
would beat him. Yeah, So part of it is the
team has just played exponentially better at the end of
the season.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Dave Chappelle used to have a skit called when Keeping
It Real Goes wrong and this is the price of
you keeping it real. Sometimes it can rub people the
wrong way.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
I love that skin. I don't know you're going to
go there.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
I think there was just something about the way you
said that. You kind of said that in like the
widest way possible. Love that show When keeping it When
Keeping It Real goes wrong.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Well, this weekend, you pack some nice luggage.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
And then, by the way, someone did say here on
the text machine, Mario would have to answer this. When
Billy pulled out the vegetable trade, did Mario say, this
is the widest trip I will have ever gone on.
Is that what you said? It's okay if you did,
It's okay if you did.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
You went to Seattle with Max Stuffy.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
It's true, that's true. I think you had a little
more flavor though than that than those vegetables. Yeah, I mean,
remember Max did disappear for twenty four hours after he
met a woman in a bar. Well, never mind two
eight oh twenty two eighty seven, Maximo Adams committed to

(21:30):
what was it, North Carolina? Where'd he commit? Not Kentucky?
He committed somewhere else. It's another recruit that Kentucky had
recruited at some point in basketball? Was I right about
North Carolina? North Caroline that Kentucky didn't get. Now, the
three guys that they've been the top in on, they're
still in on and have not committed, but none of

(21:51):
them have committed. Are you at all getting worried that
Mark Pope just cannot land these top guys? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (21:59):
Worry all the way there yet? But I am like,
all right, you do need to show us something because
as good as Jasper and Malachi were and gets, those
were a homegrow and you got a significant advantage there.
He still needs to go out and prove I can
get one of these stars to add to the team,
because even though I think college basketball has completely changed
and you don't need four of them, you need one
of them one like that, especially these five star freshmen

(22:22):
coming in and so far, I love Jasper Malachi, but
I don't really count those for his recruiting because with
the home hometown factor there.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
I'm not worried. But he's got like two more chances,
and then I get worried, like if he doesn't get Stokes,
Holt or Collins, well I'm really working and gets one.
It's like, Okay, you know, I don't think you're ever
gonna see an era where people get five of them anymore,

(22:52):
because I just don't think the money is there anymore
for any team. But I think two is a reasonable request,
and I can be talked to, well, Okay, you got
to last year. They were Kentucky kids. You kind of
had to get them. That's fine, But you know, all
these other schools have one already for next year. Some
of them have two and we just still don't have any. Now,

(23:15):
if we close out and get them, I'm not gonna
be worried, but I am a little worried. I'm surprised
that's been as hard as it's been.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
We've heard about them leading a lot, but you gotta close.
That's exactly right. What good does it do to lead
in the top two is great? But let's get a
jersey on them.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
And even the one you got last year A kay
Lewis left, they ended up not coming here. So we'll
see af' nine two twenty two eighty seven. We haven't
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Speaker 5 (23:41):
He'll make them pay.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
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Speaker 4 (23:47):
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dot com. Let's talk just for a second. The women's
game tomorrow, Kentucky women play Perdue. It is. It starts
at what six?

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Oh, let's look, I have it right here from seven.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Seven starts at seven. They're gonna have the men's game
on while the women's game is going, so you can
actually watch both. In the immemorial. They're hoping to get
a big crowd, one because it's their first game against
a really good opponent, against power four opponent set and
we're we have a good time. We have a top
twenty five team. And second, they have one of the

(24:49):
top recruits in America coming to visit. So you know,
Kenny Brooks called into the postgame show. I thought did
a really really good job calling into the postgame show
and sort of asking people to come. He was great.
You ought to listen to his interview. But hopefully people

(25:10):
will go and pack the house and you'll be able
to watch the Michigan State game while it is going on.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, they deserve the support. Clara Strack has been phenomenal
excited for this women's basketball team this year.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
And you're right.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
If you miss Kenny Brooks's interview in the post game,
go back and listen.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
He was really good that it was very cool.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
I like that you all did that. You know, normally
get the game recap, but to have an active coach
of another sport on, yeah. I like that. They have
some buffalo tips. But it's also a big game for them.
And I saw that they're doing a blue out.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Wear blue.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
I mean, you should always wear blue.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Wear blue.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
Really pushing it for that one.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
So if you want to go to that game, make
sure you do that and uh and get ready. And
then of course the Kentucky game is a weird time tomorrow.
It's at six point thirty. You know, normally we're the
late game. Poor Michigan State, whoever they play, they're always
the early game. Have they ever played in the late game.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
I don't think so, I really don't.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
It's like Kentucky Duke and Kansas whoever they when two
of them play, that's the late game. Michigan State is
always the early game.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
And that's how should be. I think they're the odd
man out in those programs.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
But but who you're gonna replace him with? No, I mean,
they're probably the best team to put in it, but
like no one wants to see Michigan State play, they
probably should be replaced by Yukon. If you wanted to
make that the real Champions Classic at this point, would
you do that? Wouldn't you make it Yukon? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (26:28):
I mean the name Champions, not that we have a
ton of them lately, but Yukon should be in the two.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Kentucky and Yukon. You got the I mean, right now,
those are the four best programs of the last twenty years.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
And then when it goes to New York, I mean
it already.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Goes to New York. That'd be the hardest ticket in
the world. If you went to New York. We're a
five and a half point favorite. Does that surprise you
a little bit?

Speaker 5 (26:49):
They got a good win already over is it? Arkansas?
I thought this would be one of those one and
a half two and a half type spreads five and
a half kind of Ope, mys.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
A little bit.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
I was excited to to bet, thinking a big bounce back.
That's college basketball. At a game like that, that's a
little too many points. That's too many points for me.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
In the past, Kentucky could lose this game and you
could chalk it up to being really early in the year.
But after that lost to Louisville, it's it's just changed
my whole perception of what happens with this game and
what happens with the rest of the sea.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Jalen low all Right, so yes or no? Do we
think Jalen Lowe plays again this year? This is a
gas so like nobody gets held to the fire for it.
But yes or no, I'm.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Gonna say yes, Shannon plays again this year? Absolutely, Yes, Okay, yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
I'll be different say no. But I genuinely don't know anything.
It's a complete guess.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, I'm gonna say no, and that's that's a case.
Then No, I don't know anything. I really don't. I
would tell you if I did. I mean, the the
whispers are leaning no, but I'm not sure if the
whispers know anything. I actually think it's probably gonna be
decided today or tomorrow. I don't know when we'll find out,
but I think it'll probably be decided today. I mean,

(27:58):
it's what makes it hard is it's not a medical
I mean, it's a medical decision, but it's really more
of a personal decision. Do you want to do this
all year and kind of maybe deal with paying, go
back and forth, back and forth, get it hurt again,
potentially get it hurt where you have to have a
real surgery, or do you just want to wait, do
the surgery and be one hundred percent you know Lamont Butler.

(28:22):
They went through this with Lamont and he played and
then he had to have the surgery in the off
season and it hurt his NBA chances. Now Jalen's not
probably going to the NBA at the end of the year.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
He doesn't have the urgency.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
That's some other so he doesn't have the urgency Lamon did,
but he could get.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Another NIO year.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
That's that's my thing. Pope mentioned they got to meet
with the family and the agents when talking about it.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
It was weird, he said, agents, he said them before
the medical profession. I mean, it has certainly never been
the case that I've heard a coach say in deciding
the future of a player via injury, we have to
talk to the agents now he's probably I mean, he's
be again being honest, But Drew, you don't hear that
a lot.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
No, the order of which he named the process is
very telling of the current state of basketball. That it's
agent's then doctor. I know it's just how he said it,
but they do have to consider that. And it being
so early in the year, you know it's going through
his head. I could fix this now and I will
be ready to go next year. The eligibility to be
worked out. But if I push it and say I
hit it in February, what's my summer look like? Then

(29:27):
what's the next season look like? I mean, really has
to consider just doing you're.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Seeing there, asking are you gonna sign up for four
or five months of pain? You know, like you roll
over wrong in bad owl? No, seriously, Like again, ask
somebody who's had it, or ask somebody who's had back
pain that sort of at any moment you can get

(29:52):
this jolt of pain is not something fun to live with.
And then if you're gonna have to have the surgery
at some point anyway, you can see the mindset now
selfishly though, we need him and we can be really
good with him.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
And so that's hard, and you know, we don't know
him at all. He might have that attitude like I
love this these teammates, I want to be a part
of this year. Or you might have the attitude if
I've got to look out for me and if I
have to step away in January, that could cost me
a whole year of eligibil But I had my year.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
Lamont Butler had no more eligibility. So it's like if
Lamont doesn't do this, his college career is over. So
it's it's different with Lamont Butler than it is with
Jaywen Love.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
No pay, no glory. These guys are really they're highly
highly competitive people. That's why Trent No is lying to
the medical staff trying to get back into the game.
I mean, these guys want to play and represent Kentucky.
So that's something like mentally that takes a toll on
you too, if you're going to miss the rest of
the season.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Yeah, it's tough. We need him though, I mean I
said I said at the in the summer, he's the
one guy we can't really afford to lose, and we
might we might lose it.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Just so ridiculous the injuries situation, and I don't believe.
I know if people wanting to throw the trainer out,
but it seems just like Fluke injuries, all of them.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
What do you make of the of Pope saying that
he basically screwed up, that he has not the team,
he has not gotten the team to where he thinks
they should be yet, and that he blames himself.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
I thought his last three speaking appearances were very wacky,
but I did like that he was open, like, hey,
I'm a little behind of where I want to be.
He's like evaluating himself. You know, a lot of people
will just lie to you, sugarco you tell it's beautiful.
He's like, I'm a little behind where I want to be.
And I like, as our fan base that wants to
know everything that he's admitting in that now there's part
of us like, all right, we'll fix it. But I'd
rather him say I'm behind and I'm mad at myself,

(31:50):
visit here and try to sell me something that he
doesn't have a you know, under control yet.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
I agree with that. I agree with all that. I'm
surprised though, because we heard none of this before the
Louisville It's true, like before the Louisville game. We just
kept hearing how good we were, that we had a
chance to be special, that we I mean, like, it's
it's odd that one loss. This part of why I
shouldn't like, I'm even more fascinated about what happened in

(32:15):
that locker room, because like even his tone, everything about
him has has has been different since that locker room.
And I just and then you can't if you're just
a human being, you're gonna be curious what happened in
that locker room.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
And again I don't know what happened, but that lends
to the credence of maybe Mark Pope was a little
too amp for the game that led trickle down to
the players. Maybe he was trying to take ownership of
his mistakes but really couldn't be transparent and exactly what happened.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
But part of that job is having your team ready
to go on the road and fight for each other
and it's you against them, and then drop the ball
on that one. I mean, you're gonna have to figure
out how to get your team ready for a rivalry game.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
One person rides Matt, this is for Shannon. He needs
to watch the new Ossy documentary on Paramount. He will
love it.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
No, yeah, I would.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
I didn't know there was an Ozzy documentary, but I
will go back and watch that.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
There you go. I didn't know that either. Another person says, Matt,
what about John Caliperry's latest rant? It's one of the
classic ones for him. I haven't heard what either.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
I know he had a close game recently, but I
didn't know about any rants.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
I feel like he said I saw something from him.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Can you guess it without seeing it?

Speaker 5 (33:27):
We haven't had time to practice defense.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
He probably said that the media doesn't know what they're
talking about.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Did you say this?

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Did you?

Speaker 5 (33:34):
Did you see what I did?

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Did you see what I did? Yeah? From Little Rock
to Bentonville?

Speaker 5 (33:41):
No, I don't know what he said. I know they
had they ended up winning, but they played one.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
That game was close though, against Sandford before that. Again,
he likes to play those game teams again that are
good in the in the from the Bad Car?

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Would you rather beat Saint John's or Arkansas?

Speaker 4 (33:55):
This year?

Speaker 5 (34:00):
I saw.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
And you want to win the SEC? Yeah, and Saint
John's is really good, so I would say I don't.
I mean, it's crazy for me to say this, but
I don't have any animosity to Rick anymore. And I
used to have the most animosity, and I just can't.
I mean, they were playing Alabama the other day. I
was rooting for him, you know, I was rooting for Rick.
So I don't know, Like, I can't think of a

(34:24):
person I've ever flipped on. More like if you go
back through my history of people that at a time
I really didn't like, but then later I found myself liking.
It's probably like George W. Bush and Rick Patino.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
What a duo.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
I mean, George Bush seems like he would be like
it seems like a nice guy.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
So you like him now? Oh yeah, it's that the
opposite with Trump. Did you ever like Trump?

Speaker 5 (34:52):
No, you'll get there, give it time.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
I don't know about that. I mean, that's one you'll
come around. That's doubtful. I mean, I'm sure if i'm
mad him, like, i'd be like nice in that moment.
But no, But George B. Bush, Like, don't you think
he'd be fun?

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Oh yeah, watch me hit this drive? Is all I
needed to see that he could probably be a fun time.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Yeah, I think he. I think he'd actually probably be
a lot of fun, you know. Yeah. But and Patino,
I have my opinion has changed one eighty.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Well, got you guys, broke bread. I mean he came
on the show to the interviews.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
So but even before that, there was something about when
he took the Saint John's job. I just wasn't mad anymore.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
You know, donate money to football.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yeah, all right, if I'm nine to two eight, oh,
I don't like to keep giving the number. I'm not
taking calls. We'll do it. We'll do it again tomorrow.
It's just like a natural thing. We'll take a break.
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(36:16):
into a stronger uh Kentucky. If I'm nine two eight
oh twenty two eighty seven, one person rites Matt. I
heard Joe All talk about this in the postgame show.
At what point, to all the injuries you start to
look at the staff, the way they're trained, et cetera.
I mean, there may be a point, but I can't
do that with a separated shoulder, like, that's not it
just happens. There's not It's not a train It's not

(36:37):
like you. It's not like an ankle. You can argue
with an ankle, maybe you build up the strength or whatever,
but when you separate shoulder, it gets knocked out of joint.
What's he supposed to do?

Speaker 5 (36:44):
Like, I mean, I don't We joked about the ankle
doctor in the past. Then last year we were court
side for Curz injury. Watch it happen. You turn ankles
in basketball back to back shoulders and stinks. But I
can't just make some big grand criticism of the train her.
When h Jayla Lowe, who's tiny, is trying to box
out Modiabata in practice and separates his shoulder, I don't

(37:06):
know that's on the trainer.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
I forgot about the Kirk cries Andrew him getting back.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
That was crazy.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
It was I will remember that forever. That was crazy.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
That is if you're going to have your last play. Yeah.
See he's in college this year, isn't he.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
A fun fact? He was spotted at fam All the
other day. But he's playing for Cincinnati, so maybe he
just maybe he just misses. Yeah, how's he doing?

Speaker 4 (37:23):
Is he getting mad?

Speaker 5 (37:24):
He kept up with his time there, but that's where
he is, and I guess he just wanted to come back.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
For potentially Villanova is splitting their point guards Kateen Lewis
and Devin ask you both with Kentucky connection.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Devin as was still playing basketball.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
By the way, if if Drew seems like he's more like,
you know, more kind of following the rules button up. Yeah,
his his in laws are sitting here right now.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
Well, Abby has gone to some extreme links to make
sure I come home.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
From Yeah, I mean, Abby's like, I want to make
sure Drew doesn't do anything on the road, So she
literally sent her in laws from Ohio to make sure
you don't do anything.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
It is pretty Abby's dad and stepmom, Jimmy Conyer here.
They live in Northwest Ohio. But they just happened to
be passing through Buffalo this morning on the wad of
Niagara Falls. What a random occurrence. Well, I'd be glad
to have you all keep him a shrink alive too.
By the way, they got a listener.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
The thing about Kentucky fans is just it's just crazy
because like we had this do the guy Tate, who's
just a listener who lives in Buffalo, he came to
watch the cover zero taping last night and in talking
to him, he was the guy that had the sign
at the game that told cal Perry go to Texas.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
That's how interest that was.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
That's how he introduced himself. Who knows there? He was?
Who are who keeps walking into this house? There's another
person walking into the house.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Mario'll find out next year.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Go make sure there's, uh, there's nothing going on. Do
you think we beat Michigan State?

Speaker 5 (38:47):
I do.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
I'm not gonna put my heart earned money on it
with that spread and the question marks around the back court.
But I feel like they're gonna bounce back. And it's
not just bouncing back from Louisville. They had a horrible
game in New York City last year. So I think
both of those away into them being laser focused and
putting together a good game.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Champions Classic has not been kind to us in the
last five to six years. It's it's time to get
a victory. Uh. Michigan State specifically is one you need
to get uh when you when you draw them in
it every three years, so we need to get it.
And I also think it's the kind of team Billy
that if this team's gonna be good, you win games
like this, right. This is a team that we are

(39:25):
more athletic than we should be more talented. Then the
only way they're gonna beat us is by being tough
and rough, and we have to make sure that doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
And this is a game where you see at least
one guy rise to the occasion. Who is that person
on this team? I remember Maxi going off and.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Maxi had one of the great I mean, I don't
know that we've got a Maxi on this team.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
I mean, well, you got a Modia Bonte from Diabonte
from New York City who wants to play in the gardens.
So that's our that's our homecoming. Player to watch fresh
off is double double Friday Night.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
One person Rights. Matt, what do you think about the
cop at the A and M South Carolina game? Well,
I mean he was clearly in the wrong. I mean
the cop was clear and the wrong. It's one of
those things that when you see it, you go, how
many times does that happen when we don't have a camera,
you know what I mean? Like, that's because that was
he bumps into the players, and actually it looked to

(40:16):
me like nobody was necessarily a fault with the bump.
It just kind of happened. But then like after it happened.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
See, I thought he's a fault with the bump. He
walked around them, he wedged between them with his arms.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Extended, kind of like pushing his shoulders up at him and.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Him maybe I need to watch again. You think he
you think he he he.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Kind of went like you think he was ready to
take contact.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
You think he was like setting a pick a moving screen.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
And people have noted when you work at games, whether
you're an administrator me and media Mario with a camera,
a police officer, when players are coming out of total
you'd get out of the way and give him a path,
like it's just you just know the team's coming out,
step over you think.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
You thinkt a moving pick and then called the foul on.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
Them cores, That's what it looked like.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Was ready to yell at them as soon as it happened.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
He was. That wasn't quick.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
I think them being down twenty seven to three or whatever,
that moment waited on it. I think that's a guy
that can't handle his football emotions.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
What's crazy. I think it's worse for him if they
don't come back and win.

Speaker 5 (41:16):
Yeah. And also I feel like they could have sent
him home without saying it, but they made sure everyone.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
They released the statement that he was getting sent home,
and then they released the statement he'll never be back.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
Oh I didn't see that, and they issued it quickly.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Yeah. I mean they're like, we'll never assign him to
a game again.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Well good. It's unacceptable for law enforcement to do something
like that. Some stupid fan that has a pass on
the sideline, sure, but that's.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
In a professional billy with a strong take. There we
put any other it was weird to any other important
any important things.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
It'll come to me when you bring up the headline
or whatever. I don't have anything I need to get
off my chest or anything.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Okay, so we just have a minute left. Overall positive
experience for.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
You, Yeah, yeah, absolutely. This has been a ton of fun,
bucket list kind of thing to do, the NFL thing,
and uh, all the equipments worked.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
So that was you got it. You got our podcast
to the NFL. They put it out. It's out there.
So you did good. I did good. Next time you'll
still be in the bunk bed. But nevertheless, I like,
we'll try try to make sure it's a bunk bed
that has a mattress.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
Yeah, or we'll put Mario in the other bunk with you.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Step brothers.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
Yeah, you could be like step brothers. I mean you
already wear that sweater so well.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
I always I always thought i'd get Ryan Lemon treatment
with the you know, snoring and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
So one day you'll go, that day will come. Well,
it's nice to have you on the road, and thank
you all who enjoyed the trip. We got a lot
of a lot of responses on social media, which was
really good. If you want, if you get a chance,
go back and like some of those posts. The NFL
looks at that stuff to see how it how it
went and Uh. We will be back tomorrow in studio,

(42:53):
then at the bar Wednesday and Thursday, UH for the games.
We'll see you later. From Buffalo, we're headed home. And
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