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November 20, 2025 • 42 mins

KSR is Live at KSBar & Grille talking continued rumors around the Kentucky basketball team, Mitch Barnhart's future at Kentucky, and your calls.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
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Speaker 4 (00:34):
Now here's Matt Jones.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Welcome everyone.

Speaker 5 (00:37):
It is Kentucky Sports Radio Thursday. It is November the
twentieth ime. Matt Jones here live at the Ksbar. We
are here until noon today. Love to have you come
out and say hello. Got my friend here from Carlisle
County helped me with the book when I went out
to the to the west coast or yeah, west coast
of Kentucky.

Speaker 6 (00:55):
We don't get a lot of Carlisle County people come around.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Here out there.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
State State Champ's right one years run State runner up
and like what eighty two eighty three ceilings look at you.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well, they're very proud of it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
And now are they combining the two counties into one school. No,
they're not gonna do that. They had talked about it
and they fought it.

Speaker 6 (01:14):
Carl Island on Livingston. What's the other county, Ballard?

Speaker 5 (01:17):
Carlisle and Ballard that's out on the part of the state.
People don't they need to know more about it. Clark's
pumping shop fuld line eight five nine two eight oh
twenty two eighty seven a vision auto glass text machine
seven seven two seven to seven four five two five
four in this distion sponsored by the TJ. Smith office
you called t J. I'll make them pay. Those are
the Mississippi River counties. A lot of people in Kentucky
just don't even think about the fact that we have

(01:38):
four counties that board the border the river. Big thing
is can you get a port? That's what everybody wants
to talk about. Can we get a port that's uh,
that's that's a.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Big issue there.

Speaker 6 (01:48):
I remember in your book you talked about one of
those counties has a bridge that goes to nowhere. It's
like just a bridge.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Holton County well there's a no, no, no, you're thinking
of a different part of the state. This is why
I shouldn't let you be part. No, they Fulton County.
You have to cross into Missouri or Tennessee. You have
to cross into Missouri to get to the other part
of Kentucky. We we have a little piece of Kentucky.
It's like a little island that's on the other side

(02:14):
of Missouri.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
Which is really strange, very strange.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
And most people don't know it. So yeah, that's uh,
there's a there's an Indian burial ground up there in
Ballard County, funny Wick, the Wickham what Wickliffe, Wickliffe Mounds.
That's right, it's way out my way, even way farther way. Well,
you leave today, you get there Monday. I mean, it's
it's far away. For a second there. We thought we

(02:37):
had a remote there next week, but Billy had the
town rung.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, that's an interesting.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
That's an interesting US. I don't know if you know
about this. We're off topic, but that's okay. Wednesday before Thanksgiving,
we are at Don Franklin, Columbia, which we were supposed
to be out a few weeks ago, and for a
scheduling reason I needed to change and we did it
in Lexington instead of Columbia. And they said to me, hey,

(03:04):
are you okay doing it the day before Thanksgiving? And
I said, sure, I can go to Columbia, right, we
can do a little.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Dare County before Thanksgiving. So that's next Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
But Billy, on the drive goes, I said, where is
that remote next Wednesday? And he said Columbus, Kentucky. And
I was like, I don't know where that is. Where's Columbus, Kentucky?
Andrew looked it up and it's like out in Ballard County, right,
It's it's as far away as you can be. It's
four hours and forty five minutes. And I said, Billy,

(03:36):
I can't go the day before Thanksgiving four hours and
forty five minutes away.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Come back. Kentucky has a game that night. Yeah, they do.
I'm like, what do you You expect us to go
all the.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Way to Columbus, all the way back and do that
game the day before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
My family's gonna be here. I can't go all the
way to.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Columbus nine hours on the road. Billy's like, you agreed
to it, and I said, I know I did not
agree to that. I know I did not agree to
go four and a half hours. Well, he had spelled wrong.
He had Columbus and Columbia spelled wrong. Well, that's why
he does things like bring that suitcase. Is he rights
the wrong thing that Columbia has been a good friend

(04:17):
with us. I love Columbia's great Columbus. That'd be sure
Columbus is the great Taky. There are people listening from
Columbus seven seven two seven seven four five two five
for you can tell me where we would have stayed
or where we would have been population one, one hundred
and forty people Also was like they can't have a
don for dealership in Columbus.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
But anyway we are.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
We're here all right, A lot of stuff to get
to our guy, our Irish soccer announcer is gonna join
because they played tonight.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
Did you know that in the NCAA tournament? Okay, I
don't know. The commerce tournaments still are in.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Gavin Gavin's played, we play in Saint Louis. I think tonight. Okay,
he's gonna get us ready for that game. Uh and
uh and more. But let's start with you know a
story you know, things are kind of a little hectic
when people's like grandma's are writing them and asking them
what's going on?

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Right, yes, yesterday.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Was you know, there are moments where Big Blue Nation
is at its best and then there are moments where
I won't say it's at its worst, but you see
the other side of like, okay, this is the other part.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Of dealing with this job. And I think yesterday was that.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
I mean, people are understandably frustrated about the Michigan State
game and lots of complaints, which is also understandable, but
then the kind of like okay, what's going on went
into wild effect. I mean it was like the old
days in the sense of, you know, Dan Docketch got
real like I came from the from the past to

(05:51):
like come after.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
Me and call yeah, call.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Big Blue Nation names.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
The national media, CNN had an article about how Michigan
State was doing the future and Kentucky wasn't, in like
a contrast in styles. I didn't even know CNN did sports.
You had Gary Parrish, and you had all these guys
like taking uh given their opinion on what's going on.
And then of course, and I you know, I hate

(06:18):
to say I told you so, But I told you so.
The rumor mill started running wild as to what was
going on with the chemistry of this team. I wrote
on Twitter that I got nine different stories last night
from people who told me they were one hundred percent
sure they were true, and some of them were mutually exclusive.

(06:39):
They could not have both happened, and I probably believed
none of them are true.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
But everybody had like, you know.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
Kenny Walker's cousin told me, or it would be like
my son's a friend of them, yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Oh, I had a lot of friends of the of
like zach Toe, yeah, or you know, there were a
lot of friends of, or cousins of, or housekeepers of
a lot of that stuff. But I also would say
it was inevitable that this would happen, and that Mark
Pope did this. Mark Pope did what should be cardinal

(07:14):
rule number one as a coach. Do not say something
happened and not say what it is okay, or do
not like, do not give no answers when people want answers,
because when there is silence, people will fill the void.
I probably said that to John Caliperry fifty times in

(07:35):
those last few years. If you leave silence if you
don't tell people the status of players injuries, and if
you don't do that stuff, the void will be filled
with something. And that has now happened. And that's where
we are right now.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
You're right, you know, everybody's trying to find an answer,
like what's wrong. So when we don't know, they're going
to fill that void, like you said, with just any
crazy story that you wat you and then it gets
passed around and just good gains momentum.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
And every time it gets set it's like the telephone game. Yes,
changed a little bit, and also in people's mind gets
more credibility because they're hearing it from a lot of people,
even though it's probably the same story, just circling around
and hitting everybody.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Did you say your parents asked? Or somebody's parents.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
Yes, I mean it starts going around these message boards.
It gets passed around and then all of a sudden,
everybody believes it. It must be true, saying the church.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Bulletin at the Nazarene church. What No, I'm just kidding.
It wasn't.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
But that's the kind of thing that you could you
could see.

Speaker 7 (08:35):
Yeah, I was going crazy yesterday. I had people asking me,
people I haven't heard from it forever.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Hey, is this true? Hey? I heard this, heard this.

Speaker 7 (08:41):
So and so told me this, And I agree that
there's chemistry issues, But some of the rumors out there,
I feel like they had a whole UFC fight card
of teammates fighting each other. I heard every combination of
player on the team fought each other at some point,
and you know, all of that can't be true.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, I'm trying to think.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Is there anybody I didn't hear any No scenario involved
yellowch No, he maybe the one, maybe the one that
it was not involved, But I heard a scenario involving
I think every other player, maybe Malachi. Maybe it's something
about those bench bigs that keeps them out of out
of the midge mix. Now there's also the real world ramifications.

(09:21):
Our assistant basketball coach responded to one of these on Twitter. So, uh,
there's an account called man Boy, which I don't understand
why that's the name of the account, but it is.
It is Mark Maggart. You remember Mark Maggret from Back
and Down, another name from the past coming people were
coming out. Where were we gonna have TC cat to

(09:43):
come back? Like like all the names from the past,
are back. Uh, he wrote something sort of It didn't
even really seem that that bad to me. It was
just like if there are chemistry issues, and then he
was he was I think speculating could Garrison leave mid
semester or something like that. Jason Hart replies to the comment,
and Jason Hart says, I don't normally respond, but chaos

(10:06):
in the locker room is false. You're making things up,
which is unfortunate. So that's good to hear. But I
also don't know if that's the forum to respond to
it in. But again, Pope did this Like the reason

(10:28):
this is happening is because aa, you brought up the
pregame Louisville thing, but then b because kind of the
way he was acting after the game against Michigan State.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
It kind of leads to this, it does.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
It goes all back to how he handled the whole
Louisville thing and his response after that game, his response
after the game we won, the difference refronts he had
to the media, end of the fan when he said
something about Taylor Swift yes yeah, and then the response
after the Michigan State game. All that has kind of
led all of us to speculate and run wide with
some of these stories.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
If you're gonna send the fans Drew on an adventure
of guessing you can't get mad, where they take that adventure?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Right?

Speaker 8 (11:05):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
And he kind of did that.

Speaker 7 (11:07):
And Pope's had three four speaking opportunities, and only Jason
Hart on Twitter is the one denying her putting any
kind of uh stuff out there from the coaching staff.
Pope is the one in front of the microphones speaking
for the coaching staff, but his assistants are having to
go around him and reply on Twitter to let people
know that things are okay.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
So he speaks at noon today. Yes, that's a little unusual.
Usually he will speak once a week before a game.
Am I correct?

Speaker 2 (11:34):
About? Well? The players did money? This is his one? Oh?
This is his the player, This is his normal one.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
Wouldn't you say to him if you were giving pr advice,
just deal with all this right now, just hit it
head on. I'm not sure it's gonna make anything necessarily better,
but maybe it'll quell because right now you have two
different conversations going on, the are we good at basketball
conversation and then the what's going on in conversation? And

(12:06):
then those two kind of bleed into each other and
you can at least end.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Or at least tamper down one of.

Speaker 6 (12:12):
Those See I'm with you. I mean, it is November.
There's a lot of basketball left, and if you don't
hit it head on and get it out there, it's
gonna it's gonna follow you like a dark cloud until
you address it and tell everybody what's going on.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
And people like.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
Rumor there's dude, it's while these shows like Love and
Kettle Island and all this stuff occur.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Kettle Love, Actually you had Love in Kettle Island. That's
a show I would watch if you've ever been.

Speaker 6 (12:38):
To Kettle Island where it's Kettle Island, it's up in
the hallers of Bell County.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Wow, I would watch that. I would want to see
that in that love.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
But but point mean, like it's that's people like that stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Now.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
I wanna give it just a basketball point somebody, And
I just want your thought on this, okay.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
And you don't.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
We'll probably go to break after I say this, so
you can think about it. One person wrote and said, Matt,
here's what I think is ultimately the biggest issue. Pope
created a team completely built on analytics, and that all
looks good on paper, but maybe he just forgot to
go get us really good players. He said, let's be

(13:18):
honest about what we have. We have two guys who
in theory can be stars. One of them was an
inconsistent player from pitt and he's hurt. The other one
has yet to be on the floor. The third otega Oway,
was while our most consistent player last year, would you
say he was our best and he's not playing well.

(13:38):
The other players, while great, are all kind of role players.
Aberdeen was the fifth leading scorer at Florida. Diabaate was
the sixth leading scorer at Alabama. Cam Williams was the
sixth man at Tulane. Three guys or rookies, none of
them were ranked in the top ten. Maybe we just

(14:00):
don't have all that much talent. And this is what
it is, and it's a team that looks good on paper,
but when it actually comes to having great players on
the floor, we just don't have as many as everybody else.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
What do we think about that?

Speaker 6 (14:17):
I mean, I think there's a little truth to that,
for sure, But I also think the fact the whole team,
the whole summer was all built around Jalen Lowe. He
was beat supposed to be your guy, and when you
yank him out, they've kind of been in a tail
spin and haven't learned to recover yet.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
From that, you could make an argument that only one
guy on this team has had the responsibility of being
the best player on a power for a team.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
And that's Jaylen Lowe, and he's hurt.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
And just to contrast that to last year, Kobe Braa,
Jackson Robinson, Andrew.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Carr, Amari Williams. You know, Lamont.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
Butler were either the first, your store second best player
on their team. And do we have one guy on
this team besides Lowe and Oway who was the first
or second best player. The answer is probably no.

Speaker 7 (15:12):
Well, I think the big problem, as we all know,
is Oway as not being what he was supposed to be.
Oway was the best player last year. He's the preseason
player of the year, and he should not even been
in the conversation for preseason player of the year with
the way he started.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
I think he was our most consistent player and in
some ways was our best. But I will say this,
I always kind of thought the other guys were as good.
It's just he was the most consistent, and now he's
not consistent. So I'm not saying I totally agree with that,
but that's an interesting read on the roster. It's a

(15:46):
roster that you go, oh, all of these pieces are great,
but then you say, well, is.

Speaker 6 (15:52):
There a guy you know during the summer we all
thought this was a great roster because he was too
deep in every position. That's a roster I thought win
with two deep on six men, not necessarily.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Well, we'll see. I've been concerned. This is an interesting point.
I hadn't really thought about it like that, but that's
an interesting thought.

Speaker 7 (16:11):
If I say, passed on people in recruiting because they're
not a fit. If we don't have chemistry, why are
we passing on good guys because they don't fit. If
the guys off there was gonna be fit, well, that's
a concern if you can't read the room in recruiting.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven,
we will take a break right back.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
This is KASR. Welcome back. Excuse me, it's Tucky Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
If I'm nine to two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, uh,
text machine is seven seven two seven seven four five
two five four, A couple of you asking if I
can get Mark Pope on. I haven't asked to be honest,
because I think you have to ask those like selectively.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
And I'm not sure this is the perfect time.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
But I mean, if they keep losing, yeah, I think
we're gonna we're gonna need to do that. One person
writes Matt. I think that uh answer or the text
is completely correct. I also am not sure if Jalen Lowe.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Is the guy. Well, I don't know how you can
say that. He's played a game and a half. Like,
I mean, I liked him.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
I still think if he plays this year, we can
still be really good. But I do think he's the key,
and I've said that all summer. Still believe it. I
just you know, he is the straw and without him
we have I watched Alabama play last night.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
They won on the road at Illinois, great win.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
Last eight points a game were scored by file On
and they couldn't stop him.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
They just could not stop him. He got what he
wanted at the end of the game. We just don't
have a guy. We don't have a guy.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
We don't have that guy. And at the end of
a close game or even when you're like struggling to score,
you need that guy.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
At least. I felt like if we had Low, he
could at least create and get somebody a better look
than what we've been getting.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
He did it against Louisville.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Yeah, when we struggled, especially in the first half, he
got us some points.

Speaker 6 (17:57):
A minute he came on the floor.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
I just my thing is still Ohway is the big
reason for this. I still think Oway was a star.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Last year.

Speaker 7 (18:06):
We had like twenty eight against Oklahoma. This tournament maybe
twenty ncla tournament for me, as much as Low hurts them,
him being basically zero at this point is the biggest issue.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I just never saw him as a star.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
I mean, he took me over the tournament games, yeah,
but I mean like he has taken he doesn't take
over Eastern Lana.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
I'm not trying to say he's not really good, but
I never saw him as a star. That I mean,
I said on this show, I don't didn't really think
he was sec presents.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Play to me.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Now, that doesn't mean I just felt like he was
a dude who could give you fourteen every single game.
But against a good team, do I think I mean,
you get in a matchup with Louisville down to stretch,
they got Michale Brown, you got Oway.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Who you want?

Speaker 7 (18:49):
Here's always games the last week of the season, last year,
twenty seven, twenty two, twenty four, twenty eight, twenty twenty.
That is awesome and that is nowhere near on the roster.
But did you ever did you just events, did you
ever think that was Auburn, LSU, Missouri. He's done none
of that against Eastern Illinois, Nichols or whoever else.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
Did you ever think, though, that was a guy that
you would say, get us back in this game away,
or was a guy who always Yeah, I just, I mean,
I just I watched.

Speaker 7 (19:15):
Him in the Combine scrimmages and he looked like one
of the best players on the floor. That guy is
not in Lexington right now.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Listen, I get it.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
I never thought that was a guy who clear out
always gonna win the game for us. Now, he did
get those lamps against Oklahoma, I'm not gonna that those
were awesome plays.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
But I still thought he was a dude.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
Who hit his lanes, who would drive to the basket,
who are shooters could space four and then it would
give him driving lanes. I just you know, but regardless,
he's not given that even.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
You know the Louisville game, that was that hardy guy.
He was on all way and just totally had him
flustered and did not let him get get free at all.
I think teams now going into the game, instead of
maybe concentrating always maybe the second or third option, they
all now know he's supposed to be the first option,
so they've put all their defensive I think it's a.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Really good point.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
There's a difference between a first and the second option,
and he is the first option.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
And I don't know if he's that.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
Maybe he will be maybe I hope so, but I
don't know if he uh, if he.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Is all right switching gears for just second.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
I'm more confident about what I said yesterday about Mitch
than I really.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
This will be his last year. I just want that
on the record.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
The Matt Baum to drop yesterday.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, I think we're going to be getting a new
athletic director at the end of the year.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
So do you still feel like January first is when he.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
I don't know that. I can't say when he'll announce it,
but I just feel like that's.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Very very likely.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
I think there's a lot of things that point to it,
including a couple of things just like you know, you
remember he had a donation thing where he was donating
so much for that complex and that ends at the
end of this year, and like, there's just a lot
of stuff that I think and just talking to people,
I think there's good chances and new ad And then.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
The question would be who is that.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
My guess is, I think if you had to guess,
it would be one of two people, which is either
Dwayne Peevee or the guy who has Dwayne Peevee's job now,
Mark Hill. I mean my guess is it's probably one
of those two guys. And that sort of that consistency continues.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
Yeah, in the timeline with Michigan and that eight hundred
thousand a year starting next year, I mean that kind
of checks out if you're predicting what he would do
to wrap up his time.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
What do you think about that eight hundred thousand dollars
a year for two years to be the special assistant
to the president.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Give me that job. Yeah, I don't like that assistant
to the regional manager.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
Show up to some functions, shake some hands.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
I mean, I know somebody else had to approve that contract,
but it's yet another contract where you go.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
With you on the candidates. But that eliminates so many people.
If he's just gonna be lingering around, if you did
want to get a new some new blood or some excitement,
no one's gonna want him just sitting in the office
in the corner making it her one thousand a year
while you're trying to take over an athletic Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
I mean, if you're Dwaye Peevy or Mark Hill and
you wanted to come in and like have your own
game plan, having him sitting over there going.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
That probably doesn't help. That's true.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
I think Mitch has done a great job here, but
nobody is irreplaceable, right, and so I do hope whenever
he steps away, he steps away.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
Right, Let's let the new guy do his job.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
Oh, it to the new person to let them do
their thing. Yeah, when it's time, we'll take a break.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
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Speaker 4 (22:48):
He'll make them pay now.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
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Speaker 2 (22:53):
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Speaker 6 (22:59):
But nothing.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
We didn't. Baby, it's is it? It's not button up?
But that would be a Mitch Barnhart.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
That button, baby, Yeah, button the top button.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Baby.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
We're gonna watch Masterpiece Theater. That's the Mitch Marnhart dance.
A little different than loosen up my buttons, baby. Kyle says, uh,
I usually don't disagree with Matt completely, but Drew is
right about away being a huge factor of why we've
looked so bad this year. Well, let me be clear,
I don't disagree with Drew on that. The reason we'd
look bad is it always not playing well. We're Drew

(23:43):
and I probably disagree is whether or not always kind
of has the potential to be like a number one option,
like a star. But we may disagree on that. But
is it the case that he is the reason a
big reason we're struggling?

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I completely agree. Let me ask you, Shannon real quick. Yep.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
The Louisville Bats announced that for six games next year,
in the middle of the summer, they're going to change
their name to the Louisville Humidity, Right, and their jerseys
are gonna be orange, and they're going to have sweat
stains on them. Yep, and the numbers are gonna have
dripping water on it, the Louisville humidity for six games.

(24:28):
I put that out. There was a mixed response. Not
everybody was negative. Not everybody's positive. I kind of like it,
what about you, Shane?

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, I mean this is the fun of minor league baseball, right,
Anything they can do to get people to come out.
Usually the dollar beer works fun for me to get
me to go to the games.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
But I like it.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
You know, for six games there'll be the Louisville humidity,
and it'll be something that fans can collect. The sweating
baseball logo on a baseball hat.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
I think I'll buy one of those.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Yeah, I mean, I think I'm gonna buy one. I
love having the jersey have pre pre proved sweat stains.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I'm a fan. What about you?

Speaker 6 (25:03):
I'm a big fan. The Channon said it. Man, That's
what makes minor league baseball's fun and special, when they
have their little gimmicks and things they do to try
to attract a crowd. You know, the humidity is so awful,
that's probably when their crowds are the least. Now they'll
do it a week where it'll be hot and sweaty,
but people will go just to be a part of this.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, Louisville site they call Louisville. I don't know what
it's called, Like, is.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
It a heat pocket or a heat It's got a
name because it's kind of got a little dip in
the valley and you're on the river and all that.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
There's some there's some name for it.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
It's like a heat pack or something in that stadium's
right there on it.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
So I kind of like it. Yeah, I love it.
They got hats, imagine.

Speaker 7 (25:43):
I mean, you're not gonna wear a baseball jersey around
town all the time, but got a nice Louisvill humidity
hat with sweat dripping down the side. You like, orangs
though some people don't like the old love that, but
it's better than Louisville red it. The soccer team here,
the election sporting they had like a bourbon barrel uniform.
We remember the Ice I have Legends gear from years
ago where they had theme nights. I think it's really

(26:04):
really cool that that level of sports, you know, does
some gimmick stuff to some more merchandise and get people involved.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
But you're right, man. It is kind of that Tennessee orange.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
It's not just It'snessee, it's that puk inside of a
pumpkin orange.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
I mean, that's the orange. But I'm still gonna do it,
I think because I I like it. I think it's
a cool idea. I wouldn't have thought. I mean, you
talk about it creative. Who would have ever thought to
call something the humidity?

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Remember the wild health genomes that.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
Yeah, the genomes didn't work for whatever reason, the genomes
that that was. I don't know if that was too far,
just too nerdy.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
Counterclock the counterclock.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
Counter clocks didn't really work either. I didn't know what
they meant by that. But now I kind of like
the humidity. I think that was a good call.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Every game, it's not the entire you know, it's six games,
six games.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
In the hottest time of the year. Two.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
They had every meteorologist in Louisville at the announcement wearing
the jerseys.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Oh they did well? Did they keep them separating? The photo?
The two hated each other.

Speaker 7 (27:00):
We're they are I don't know people by faces Weinberg
and Bailey.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
It's a Lexington Louisville thing.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
I don't know if two Louisville guys hate each other,
Wineberg is the Louisville one.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I think it's Wineberg and Bailey that have the that
have the beef.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
I don't know my Louisville meteorologists, but that about twelve
of them in a photo together wearing.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Joe very controversial.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
And there are people who will take up There were
people who will fight you for and against his way.
All right, who's up first? Ed?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Go ahead? Ed?

Speaker 8 (27:31):
Hey, good morning, guys, Good morning. I'm astonished that I'm
up first.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Well, you're here, so don't ruin it.

Speaker 8 (27:42):
I won't ruin it. Just I wanted to make a
couple of three points real quick. Number one, Matt, you
are exactly correct. Uh, every good team, since they ain't
offer up up till now, every good team has a
floor general as a as someone typically the point guard.

(28:05):
There's the floor general runs the offense, is in charge
on the floor and without Jayalen Lowe, who do we
got we don't have one. It could be Aberdeen, but
Aberdeen's got to quit trying to be a hero scoring
the ball. He's got to facilitate the offense if he's
gonna be the point guard.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
And what second.

Speaker 8 (28:28):
Second, we don't share the ball. We're watching My wife
and I are sitting there watching the Michigan State game, and
yellow it who needs to be playing a whole lot
more because he hustles and does the little dirty work stuff.
It plays good d He was wide open two times
in a row down the floor, nobody guarding him within
fifteen feet. Alway looks at him, stares at him, never

(28:51):
passes him the ball.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Yeah, I appreciate the call. I think those two things
work together. I think those two things. You know, in
his very few minutes against Louisville, people remember and understand
to believe that the rush three, that was a bad shot,
missing the free throw. But he had some dimes in
that game, especially early. He had some passes where he
found guys and we're gonna miss that. I don't know

(29:14):
if Aberdeen's if that's something he can do or not.
I think he probably can. You know, oh Way has
a tendency to put that head down and go to
the basket, and I'm okay with that, but you better finish,
you know. If you're gonna do that, you gotta finish.
And he hadn't finished like he did last year.

Speaker 7 (29:30):
Lowe's the only guy in the whole roster who can
get anywhere he wants on the court. I mean, we
saw that Louisville and he stepped on the baseline at
the end. But if he had done that, he've even
got down there and had a guy open in the corner.
And that is what they're going to miss the most. Aberdeen,
probably better defensively, might figure out point guard, but he'll
never be able to do what Low could do and
just get low and get inside and really go wherever
he wanted distribute the ball.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
Yeah, the game changed the minute Low stepped on the floor.
The offense change more efficient, better open looks. For some
of the guys that everything changed. Now they don't have that.
I mean, Aberdeen's good, but he can't do it at
that level that locan do it.

Speaker 7 (30:04):
So if he doesn't play what, the ceiling is much lower.
The floor is already much lower than I thought it
would be me too, I've never dreamed a scenario of
this bad.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Without Low.

Speaker 7 (30:19):
It's hard to imagine them hitting their main objective.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
I'm gonna be you know, I feel like I've said
this now three or four times. I'm gonna be interested
to see what Pope says. But I am gonna be
interested to see what popees is. Yeah, because they whether
they say it or not, they know whether or not
Low is playing by now right there. Any way, they
don't know, No, I think they they've had all their imaging.
They know, and we might find out today.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
It could be it.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
I mean today, by the time you listen to this podcast,
it might already be out. But they know if he's
gonna play, and if he's not gonna play, part of
me wonders if part of the sadness of him is
the realization of if he doesn't play, do we have
we spend all this money. By the way, I still
think they spent twenty two million dollars time.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
I'm just going on. I've said that forever now.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Matt norland Or and other people disagree with me, and
I'm not gonna say they're wrong because they have a
lot of sources.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I just don't I don't buy it.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
I know people who write those checks, and I don't
think they wrote that big a check.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
So let's just with that said.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
Though we spent more than most people, maybe more than
anyone certainly in the top two, and it doesn't look
like that when they play.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
No, it's gonna be a recurring theme until they start
playing better. There's no doubt about it.

Speaker 7 (31:29):
And I'm someone that said the money doesn't matter, but
it matters when you're down twenty four and twenty. If
you lose because the team shot well from three, bad matchup,
whatever it's basketball, You've lose. Getting your teeth kicked in
and your first two big games is inexcusable for what
they spent, whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
But you're right.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
Like we said yesterday, it is plausible that Pope's attitude
has been because he knew he knows Low is done
for the year, and he doesn't know where to go next.
How to fix that problem.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
If he's done for the year, go find a point guard.
There's gotta be a big World's got to be one somewhere.

Speaker 6 (32:01):
Mario's got eligibility left.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
We need to keep moving. Yeah, I don't know if
he's good, though.

Speaker 7 (32:07):
He's got he's with us. We can't lose Him's.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Right, Who's up next, Craig, Craig, Go ahead.

Speaker 9 (32:12):
Craig, Hey, Fellaws, thanks for taking my call. Appreciate everything
you guys are doing. A Couple of comments in the question.
When Logan went down the second time, it almost felt like, Uh,
it was the worst. It was the worst thing that

(32:32):
could happen if we were aspiring to be national champions.
I mean, I settled, I settled all my future bets
for championship.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
You've already cashed them all out?

Speaker 9 (32:44):
Oh, for for being a champion? Yeah, as far as
final four, for as far as as far as final
four appearances. No, but I don't. I just didn't see
any hope in that. Secondly, with Pope and how and
how with these two losses, he it is incredibly unsettling

(33:06):
to see how despondent he is. Yeah, it almost seems
like this job is suddenly becoming too big for him.
And let's talk about that.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
I want to hold I want to I want to
hold onto that thought for a second because I do
want to talk about that. It was your your you're
It's a point Gary Parrish talked about earlier today and
I want to go over that. So, Uh, I appreciate
the God. I think that's a really good point to raise.
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Speaker 2 (33:47):
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They shouldn't put that in there.

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(34:21):
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Speaker 2 (34:26):
That's cool.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
I hope that wasn't a surprise because it's in the
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surprise be right back. Welcome back, teke you. Sports Radio
AFM nine two to eight zero twenty two eighty seven
text machine is seven seven two seven seventy four five
two five four. Okay, So Gary Parish talked about what

(34:49):
the caller said about Mark Pope. Uh, and I really
liked what Gary said. Gary sort of went through the
progression and he said, Okay, by the end of Cow's
time here, he was kind of disconnected from the fans.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
I think we all would agree with that.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
And then he said Mark Pope really made it like
his goal to become connected with the fans. And Gary
even mentioned KSR but the media of the fans. I
think that's completely true. He made that a priority. The
problem with that and by the way, that was good,
he needed to do that. But the problem with that is,
according to Gary, you feel then when the criticism comes

(35:24):
right and he's also right about that. You know, one
of the things that makes being connected to a fan
base is you got to be amongst them, You got
to be part of it. And that means you see
when they come after you. I can relate to that
because that's also me. It would be like, you know

(35:44):
a lot of times people say I don't care what
the general public say is I don't see it. Well
I do, and like that's hard when you to be
really connected, you also have to like almost ingest the criticism.
And Gary's point was Mark is now feeling that, right,
He's feeling the criticism because he so wants to be

(36:07):
connected and that can be hard. And I think that's
very true, right, I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
I I in order to do his job right, he
needs to do this.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
But this is the downside of it, is you can
feel when things are not going.

Speaker 6 (36:22):
For I think a lot of our fan base is
feelings about Pope may dictate on what he does in
the next couple of weeks. How does he battle back
from this? What's he gonna say to us? How's he
gonna respond? I mean, I am I'm gonna be opening
my eyes and listening to what he says today. You know,
he always happens right after this show comes out, right
at noon, right at noon.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Always I would go to all of them, but they
put him right at noon. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (36:46):
He also he hears the criticism. But you know when
they lost to Georgetown endo in count he was furious, like,
we do not lose in this arena, Like he gets it,
which means he also knows we don't lose to Louisville.
About twenty years and it would ended up being close.
But I mean most the game they were down bad,
so he knows how bad he's dropped the ball more
than any coach in that spot.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Probably would.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
Let me ask you a question real quick about my
other team, the Cincinnati Reds. They announced yesterday Elie Dale
la Cruz played half the season last year with a
partially torn quad, and I was glad to hear that
because he didn't play very well towards the end and
I was worried. But if he had a partially torn quad,
I get it now. Some Reds fans are very angry

(37:25):
and they say, why'd you let him do that? And
they're mad at the Reds. How do you let him
play with a partially torn quad? What I don't understand, Ryan,
is like I feel like guys when they get hurt,
they can't like neither way like people criticizing me the way.
If they don't play well, they're not tough. If they
do play, why'd you let him play?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yep? Right, I actually think.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
It's kind of cool that this dude who may one
day be worth five hundred million dollars and right now
he's playing for eight hundred thousand still wanted to play
through a partially torn quad.

Speaker 6 (37:55):
I give him a lot of credit. You know, if
they were out of the playoff picture, maybe he would
have shut it down. But he wanted to play to
help them. They were fighting for playoffs, about to get
in the playoffs, and they did. You know, he wanted
to help his team, help his family. Should be praising
the guy, I don't think so. Why it's not bad, right?

Speaker 7 (38:09):
I agree with you that if he hadn't play it
and then the playoff push, it'd be rubbed some dirt
on it.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Why is he just sitting there? Go out there and
help your team. Yeah, he does that, and you know
better than me.

Speaker 7 (38:17):
I don't know how he played during the stretch, but
they were in that hunt till there was not.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
He was not his normal self, but he was better
than whoever would have replaced it.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
You know. So what about you, Shing? You're a baseball guy.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
I mean that that's impressive, especially at his position. You've
got to be very athletic at shortstop and then you know,
running the bases.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
I didn't notice that you would think somebody with a partially.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
He wasn't slower. They were doing that. They were showing
during that stretch that he didn't run his fast well now.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
We know why.

Speaker 6 (38:42):
Yeah, still faster than well over half the people in
the big.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Leagues shunting at all on That is impressive.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Right, So what's your quad? Is that this thing right here?

Speaker 6 (38:50):
That's that muscle right there? I think top of your thighs.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
That's my weakest muscle. It is God, I don't do
well with this muscle. This is the muscle. And I
start working out that I that it says, okay, what
are you doing?

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Stop? That's that's the muscle.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
Like when you're doing squads, right, squats Lunges.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Lunges are not when Kentucky's losing in games, you got
a lunch.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
If you were to say to me, Matt, what is
what is hell? It is a world where you only
do lunges.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
I hate it.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
I can barely like so so tearing that I can't
imagine anything.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
So you wouldn't have put or done lungees in the
first place.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
When my lunges are sore, I just say I'm not
moving this weekend.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
So so as a quad, I think I'm staying. I'm
not playing well Like she had and said.

Speaker 6 (39:39):
You know, you run every game. That had to kind
of hurt every time he was trying to run and
you know, beat out a base hit or go to
the second base. Deal a baby.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Lunges.

Speaker 6 (39:47):
I hate lunges. That's could be one of the worst things.
Ere what are the those those up downs wherever they
call those?

Speaker 5 (39:52):
But those should be illegal? Actually, amen, my my trainers, Sonny.
She's a wonderful woman, but she is way too into burpies,
and like sometimes I sometimes think, you know, I need
to get started again, and then I'm like, she's gonna.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Make me do a burpie.

Speaker 6 (40:07):
Then I'm not going.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
And I think I would rather sit here. Think he'll
do a.

Speaker 6 (40:13):
It's a terrible thing. It's awful. It's the worst exercise
in the history of exercise.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, so that's why we're on a radio show sitting down.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
Down to Ellie for playing through greed. And I don't understand,
my guy, Lance mcallisters, like this shows the Reds are
a terrible organization.

Speaker 6 (40:28):
What do you want to I mean, trying to help
the organization play?

Speaker 5 (40:32):
You just say no, let's play Saint Tots, Santiago Espinal Moore.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Who's next, George, George, Go ahead, George.

Speaker 10 (40:41):
Good morning, gentlemen, I think the the biggest trouble to
me is the bait and switch we've had with Mark
Pope and his offense. I mean, we were promised a modern,
free flowing, you know, shoot a lot of threes ball
movement offense, and what I saw against Michigan State was

(41:03):
worse than anything we had in Col's last two or
three years. I mean, it is completely not what we
were promised. It's not what he typically does. He built
a roster that can't play the way he wants to play.
Issue struggling, it's his issue.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
I think the real issue is did you build the
right roster?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
And oh way, what do you like? Why don't you play?

Speaker 5 (41:29):
Would you start Morino next game?

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (41:31):
Yes, I probably would have started him last game. I
said on our pregame for Michigan State, Brandon Garrison, this
is your last opportunity to prove you deserve that spot,
and it did not go well. That clip of him
giving up those offensive rebounds is burned into my brain.
I can't get it out of there. So yes, I
would go Marino. I'd go more Yellovich and Quaintans. We
don't really mention him, but he's still projected mid December.

(41:52):
That could certainly help when he gets here.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
That can help Garrison his time.

Speaker 7 (41:57):
Maybe ticket he went the wrong way, like he's supposed
to gonna be better, He got worse.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Sprinted in the wrong direction.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
All right, we're gonna come back out number two here
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