November 24, 2025 • 42 mins
Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon react to Kentucky's blowout loss to Vanderbilt, Diego Pavia's mom, and take your calls.
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Now here's Matt Jones.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Welcome everyone on your Tucky Sports Radio. Monday, November the
twenty fourth. I'm Matt Jones on a cloudy, kind of
cool day. I'm in Louisville, Kentucky. Ryan and Drew are
in Lexington. Shannon's over there in that little studio box.
It is Thanksgiving weekend and I'm excited about it. Big weekend.
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We got basketball, got football, we got the Kentucky volleyball
but it was it wasn't the best weekend of the
past one. You can give a shout eight five to
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make them pay. I wonder what Diego Pavi's mom's doing
(01:22):
right now, Shannon.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Pu probably down on Broadway in Nashville kit rocks bar.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You don't know, we.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Haven't seen much of hers.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I just want to start with it, Like, we could
be all down and depressed today and we have to
talk about the disaster that was the game. But I
think there's some value Shannon in like and sort of
laughing to start the day, right, Sure, So we have
to talk for a second about Diego, About your quarterback's mother. Yeah,
(01:51):
Diego Povey.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Paviy A's Mom's got it going on, Apparently, the cameraman thinks,
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
No, exactly, no exaggeration. In the history of sports, has
there ever been a parent that was shown more on
a game broadcast than his mom was on that one?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
No, she was shown six times on one score. They
kept cutting away from the game to his mom, back
to the game, back to Pafia's mom.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Ryan, you've been watching for a long time. You worked
in TV for years. Can you ever remember anything like that?
Speaker 5 (02:29):
You brought it up on the Postgame Show when Christian
Latner's mom was in that neck brace. That's the only
thing that comes anywhere close. And it still wasn't as
many times as they showed Diego, Pobby.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Even Donna Smith, No, not even close.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
She would get maybe one time.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Drew, do you can you think of a time, no, no, no,
I thought forever my two were Donna Smith And if
you remember when Blake Griffin was awesome at Oklahoma, they
just had a camera on his parents all the time.
I thought those two were gonna help hold the crown forever.
But Poby's mom is a legend for how much they
showed her on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And we and listen. First of all, let's talk about
the good. It's nice rhyding that she's like celebrating her son, right,
that's good.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Everybody Every parent should be like that. Yes, celebrating what they're.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Sobriding their son. That's nice. There's a family get together,
that's nice. But we do have to talk about the
rest of us, which I want all of us to
sit here and think of our mothers. For a second.
All right, Drew, you think of your mom, Ryan, your
mom shading your mom, I'll do my mom. What are
(03:35):
the chances we would see our mothers in that outfit?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Zero zero?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I mean, for those of you that know my mom
because she caring wearing that, just think about it's my
senior day and my mom will showing up in thigh
high boots.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Come on, sh is straight out of a Shaggy nineteen
ninety five music video.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Shack me Like you know you're you saying she was
missus boom basket.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Bostic, Yeah, like she was.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
At what point she was like kissing some guy's hand,
did you Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I saw that.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
That was weird.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I'm like, who is this guy who's getting his hand
kissed by Poppy's mom.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
She walked out on the field first of all, his brother,
as Drew pointed out on cover zero, was in a tuxedo.
His brother and her did not look like they were
dressed dressed for the same event, did they?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
No, I'm not sure. It was just the whole thing
was as weird.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It was bizarre. But even with all that, I'm not
sure they'll ever be a moment quite like Drew when
she was saddled up to the rail.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Oh incredible, incredible, absolutely incredible, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
She was, she was riding that thing, genuine pony.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
She was playing in my head as she was riding it,
and I said to people with me, I was like,
thank god, this game isn't close, because if it went
to overtime, they would have to switch to HBO if
they're going to continue.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
To show her, because each time they showed her it
got a a little more and more provocative, more and
more saucy. As the game went on.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
They obviously had one camera dedicated to her, and.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
She imagined that guy's job. By the way, they're like John,
mom cam.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
A whole game. They stay on her.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
There are gigs and sports.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And then like you're right, she got more and more
provocative and at that moment and like, I don't feel
bad talking about it, because she was like pointing at
the camera. She clearly was like camera, find me now.
Drew made a good point that after she saddled up
to it and was pointing, they never showed her again.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Do you think that was a call from the network
like Okay, things are getting we got we gotta slow down.
Mickey Mouse called in he broke the record, he got
his his moment where he walked off the field with
the backup came in. He was a big part of
the final minutes, and they did not show her again
show during Now she was all over that rail.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I mean the rail video. I'm kind of shock, Shannon
that wasn't a bigger internet thing.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah, I mean it's good for ratings.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
That tells me that she was probably doing something that
they just could not show like that, Like whatever happened
next was something that could not be shown on You need.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
To go watch the video of her on the rail
and look behind her. Okay, if you haven't seen it yet,
look at the man who I believe is a Vandy
security guard. That guy, Okay, you need to look at
that guy and look at his face. He has a
look of like I have the best job in sports.
(06:36):
It was, you know, I was so bummed about the
game itself, but I just couldn't get over how much
they were showing her. And then there's Shannon, the theo
Von part, like he's he's at senior day, like he's
on the field.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
He's about to be Pavia's step dad, no doubt, because
he's got a thing for Pavia's mom.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
See, I kind of always thought that was like kind
of a joke. I don't think I don't think it's
you think you think it's legit.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
I think it is. Yeah, you wanted that date with it,
with this mom.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I just have to say, and again I'm not hating
do your thing, Diego, Pavi is mom. I mean this
is his like last moment in the spotlight, right, do
your thing. But the all I could sit there and
think about was like the difference in what my senior
day would have been with like mom and Larry and
(07:34):
them walking on the field versus Diego Pavi's senior day
with thigh high boots, cut off shorts, a tuxedo on
his brother and theo Vonne Drew. It's just it's an
unbelievable thing. Like it just shows you how different humanity
(07:55):
can be. Yeah, that's the Pave experience. I mean, you
know a year ago or two years ago that got
the lanyard there, That stadium's under construction, there's no fans there.
They have a locker room that's a tent. And then
fast forward they flipped a pavy a switch and he's
got He's sitting next to a parent grinding on a
rail for a sold out stadium as they're whooping to
I mean, just one the world for Vandy. That will
be one for the books right there.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
It's must see TV, which makes me think he's gonna
be invited to the Heisman ceremony because they want that.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I think you might. He might. Yeah, I mean it's
it's unbelievable. Now, as far as the game, that was bad,
he is terrible. Everything went poorly everything. The offense couldn't
move the ball, defense we could not stop. I mean,
(08:42):
we couldn't do anything. It was forty five to three
at one point. If they had wanted to, I think
it could have been in like sixty five to three. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
They took Pavey out in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, I mean they took him out. It was I
thought I thought we could lose. Actually picked us to win,
which seems ridiculous now. I thought we could lose, but
I just I did not think Ryan it would be
like that. I thought after the last few weeks that
was kind of out of our system. But it clearly was.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
You guys are right. The final score forty five seventeen.
It was much worse than that. It felt like seventy
to three. It was so bad. What their first twelve
plays they had eighteen yards of offense. I mean, they
came out of the gate just awful and never recovered
from it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Drew. What do you blame that? Like they're I mean,
they're better than us, clearly, and they played well. But
that's the kind of beatdown that should not happen at
this stage of a program ever. I mean just I mean,
we've lost these other games. Even South Carolina beat us
(09:48):
pretty badly. But it wasn't that. That was like old
school embarrassment level. Yes, it absolutely was.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
It was only the third time under Mark Stoops they've
given up six hundred yards. The other two were many
years ago to Georgia in Alabama. Pavias said a Vandy record,
I know your defense is beat up and wounded, but
that doesn't explain getting whooped like that. I mean, sure,
I didn't think we'd win, and I knew they'd have
trouble stopping that offense, but he was just picking them apart.
Even early in the game, he made a couple of
(10:15):
third down throws. The guys were just wide open in
the middle of the field. You could tell in the
first series that it was over before we even got
minutes into the game, because that offense was just doing
whatever they want.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Whatever they wanted. I mean, we had no chance of
covering them. You know. It was it was. It was embarrassing.
It was embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
And the deep balls, I want to add, you know,
because I mentioned the injuries, the guy gotten burned was
quarterback one on the deep balls, so that wasn't even injury.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Thing that was your start was a great throw. Like
if that was the one thing that happened, you'd go, well, okay,
I mean actually oddly, even though he got burned, I
was oddly like, well, that was a great throw, great whatever.
But then it just continued to get worse. You know,
I guess you would say, well, they didn't quit, but
the who cares I mean, were getting beat by so much.
(11:01):
This was the one thing Ryan that couldn't happen. You know,
if you were if you were trying to kind of
win back fans that you had lost weeks ago, the
one thing you couldn't do is get blown out. And
then they did. I think all the negativity that had
circled for weeks came back doublefold, and it put us
(11:24):
into we are now in purgatory, and we're gonna definitely
be in purgatory if we lose to Louisville. But this
was the one thing if your Mark Stoops, you could
not have happened. And Ryan then it did.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
That game we all saw our social media, the Stoops
detractors came out in full force, back at it, rallying
the troop. After the three game win streak, they're back
in full force. And now this game is, as Drew predict,
it all comes down to the Louisville game. The whole
perception of the off season is going to depend on
how they play in that game. Coming out.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I mean, do you think, though, is there any chance
it was so bad that what happens in the our
assumption going into the game that Mark Stoops was back regardless.
Is there anything that happened Saturday that changes that?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Not in my mind, but I know in a lot
of fans' minds that share his Jane.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
What do you think, I'm only watching a voluntarily stoop
step away. I don't see Barnhart doing it, just with
his comments and just the nature of Mitch Barnhart. I
think still at this point, Winter lose Saturday. For it
to change, you would have to be Stoops looking around
and saying I don't want to keep going forward with this.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Is there a world though where that was a consideration
before and Saturday made it more likely?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Well, I asked you because Shannon, I didn't want to. Well,
I gave my opinions on Saturday, and I'm going to
talk about that a little later because I was kind
of shocked at some of the reactions Saturday. Not the negativity.
I knew that would be there, but it.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Just came out, and like you said, they kind of
doubled down on everything, like it came out in full force.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Threefold, threefold.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I don't think that Mitch Barnehart has got it in
them to fire Stoops.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
No, I don't think he has it any He also
doesn't have the money. But there's also a sense of
a fan base. You know, you can get to a
point where a fan base has had it so much
that it makes it toxic. And I didn't think that
was gonna happen, but I think the way we lost
brought that back.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, And if you lose forty five to seventeen against
Louisville again.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
If you get blown out by Louisville, then I think
you almost have like you can't take two of those,
especially since Louisville stinks now.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, yeah, they're terrible.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Little stinks right now. If they were to blow us out,
then that's a whole nother thing.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
A team that's kind of lumping into this game then game.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I mean they got blown out last week. Yeah, they
got blown out thirty eight to seven.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
If it was a bad week when the Michigan State
basketball game ends up with them putting their walk ons
walk ons in and then Vandy put their walk on a.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Week with two more embarrassing losses, we've had two laws
is it probably hurt more? But I can't think of
two more embarrassing in one week. My mom wants it
to be clear she would not be in those boots.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I don't anybody thought she would caroenl look good in
those boots though.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
All right, Ryan, you know you you're it's a good
thing you're there.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Stay away from my mom too, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Mean, Ryan, you go hang out with theovon. Remember what
did you do my mom in my wedding run.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Drew's mom was pinching my butto.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
No, Ryan, I did say Shannon on cover zero that
theo Von being in that picture would be like if
it was my senior day and you saw the picture
and it was me, Mom and Larry and Dana Carvey.
That's what it would be like, right.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah, it kind of would. It's just the hot somebody,
somebody make that happen. Yeah, do your thing.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Me, Mom, Larry and Dana Carvey at the Middlesborough High
School Senior Day Ay five nine two A, you know,
twenty twenty seven. We'll talk more about this. We will
take your calls, get out into here. I'd like to
hear your opinion. Unlike what people think. We don't sit
to the calls. Shannon on the Morning Show. Shannon just
gets to decide by whether he likes you or not.
We'll take a break and be right back this Cass,
(15:16):
I knew you were gonna play this. This is the
part that I like. I know, Shannon, you and I
were different people, but we have the same brain mailed
when it comes to music. I knew you were gonna
play this, and I like it. It's the right choice,
all right. Parents shown in games Steph Curry's mom. They
did show her a lot, Yeah, they did. I don't
think as much as this, not even close. Greg Marshall's wife,
(15:40):
Oh well, yeah, that's true. Did show a lot, Yeah,
they did. Drew knows something about her. Who's a edition
because of Greg Marshall's wife.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
I was an international story that day because Lonzo Ball's dad.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Yes, yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
That's probably close to be honest, Ryan h. A. J.
Mccerrn's girlfriend and mom.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
How about the Reed Shepherd family.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Well, for the local broadcast, yes, they did show a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
But I think it's not just Shannon that they showed her.
It's the it's just the behavior.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Oh yeah, I mean it was a party the entire game,
and kept more and more provocative as the night went on.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, it was a party. It is. Well, listen, do
your thing. I'm not girl, I'm not I'm not hating
hobby people.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
You think it'll be watching Vandy Tennessee just for Papia's
mom this weekend.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
If you if it was your mom, would you be embarrassed?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Probably?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Yes, I don't think we all would of our mothers.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Definitely. Okay, so yes, But do you think he was
or do you like this is great.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
She was probably at the table at are still in
Nashville with him until three in the morning.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Do you but like, is there is there something good
about that relationship where like he's hanging out with his
mom or is it odd?
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Yes, it's better than an absent mom. They seem to
hang out and I would just be like, Mom, it's
my senior day. Maybe some pants and then you're good.
The boots what burst, rights, Matt, I'm sixty two years old.
Those boots are fashionable now I wear them. Yes, she's
on a different level, but don't absolutely crush thigh high
(17:31):
boots sixty two Shannon and wearing.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Them for you.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
There's no age lemon on boots, I guess, or booty shorts.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
I mean, let's let's.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
It is senior day. It's not like she was just
going out with.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Her friends and there is a white elephant in the room.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Okay, I'm worried. I'm worried too. Run it by Drew. Drew, Okay,
whisper it to Drew and Shannon will let Drew decide
if he gets to say it? Okay, all right, because
I trust drews I understand I'm back. Can he say it?
Speaker 6 (18:07):
I mean, it's it's not as bad as I thought
it would be. So I'm asking you can he say it?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Sure? All right? Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
The white elf in the room is she's a hottie.
That's why she was being shown as often as she was.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
It wasn't great, but I expected worse. Yeah I did.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
That's not even white all. I mean, I think everybody knows.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
That, but we didn't mention, haven't mentioned it yet.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Because we are grown ups and we imply things. We
don't need to say explicitly what people know. We don't
need to Okay, Okay, I would you Drew, you knew
this is what you knew? That Mario you too? Yeah,
that's on if Mario's in there and let that happen,
that's on him too, all right, Adam, go ahead, Adam.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
I feel like joke m parents.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
That's a good one. That's a good one from the past.
Good call, Adham.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
At the game aside, which was terrible, we all know that.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
You know.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
I actually found myself liking Diego Pavia and I know
he is at the end of the draft boards. I
hope he makes his in the NFL and maybe his
bomb can quitter job but they's a boo oh.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Stop, that's rude. He's not gonna make the draft. I
don't think, Shannon, I've not seen him. I mean, it's
probably like a t bow situation where like his talents
are perfectly served at the college level.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, I don't think that he will, but I mean
I don't you never know. I mean there there could
be a team out there.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I mean, at least somebody who brings him into camp.
I guess, and they'll see I mean, how tall is he?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Sure he's like a little Doug Flutie.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, that's exactly That's a great way to put it.
He is he is. He is a Doug Flutie.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
So I mean, if worked for Flutie, maybe it could
have worked for him. But I just don't see it happening.
But I could be wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
By the way, I don't see any value in in
like going over the game, we stun Let's let's talk
for just a second about where this fan base is.
It is. We had four weeks ago where we did
the little raise your hand. Ninety seven percent of the
audience at Whiskey Thief wanted a new coach right right then.
(20:10):
We did it last week and how many of the
audience wanted a new coach. It was like three right,
totally flipped, totally flipped. Now where do we think they are?
I think we're right back where we were.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
I think it's that bad.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
You think it's back to whiskey thief? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
I mean the three game win streak was fun, and
I'll never diminish to win over Florida or at Auburn,
but I think he still needs more than that to
really win people over.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
So does that say fans are in some ways fickle? Okay?
You could flip back and forth that quickly.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Sure, I was thinking it was more closer to maybe
seventy thirty.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay, So Ryan, if you were to go online, it's
almost universal we need to change. Correct. Do you deal
with people, because I think you probably more than anybody
on this show. Do do you deal with people who
are like, we should still give him another year?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
I do, But then again, most people I deal with
they're closer to my age. I think maybe the older generation.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Some one of those people say, because I think those
people are probably not on message boards, they're not on
social media. What is it that they say?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
This is what I think you know? We've gone through
these horrible UK football seasons of the nineties where we
finished one in ten and two and nine, when there's
eleven game seasons. It was had the nation's longest losing streak,
all those losing games to Tennessee, to Florida. Just the
fact that we're back to this level is such a turnaround.
(21:43):
They could give credit all the stoops. So I think
they're willing to throw him a little life jacket, a
life preserver.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Just what if there's people who would say the life
preserver was we brought you back after you were four
and eight last year.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Yeah, that was a bad year last year. But I think,
just as me again, if I talked to the fact
he's kind of turned it around here in the middle
of the season, even despite the game yesterday Saturday.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Let's say there was no Louisville game and you were
the ad also knowing you have to pay a thirty
seven million dollar bio, are you letting him go? Ryan?
Speaker 5 (22:18):
I'm not. I'm bringing him back because I want to
bring Cutter Bully back, and I want to bring Bush
Hammdon back, and we're gonna build on this what we
started here this year.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
I gotta find that money because next year is not
gonna be fun. People aren't gonna buy tickets.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
And when you are letting him go, people.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Are gonna make a statement next year. Yeah, unless they
find a way to market cutter Bowli and find a
way to bring some life into the stadium. I mean,
the people bragging about how fun a Vanderbilt game was
is my biggest takeaway of all of it. Forget the loss.
The fact that Vanderbilt has an atmosphere that people want
to be a part of is a bigger problem.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
By the way, white elephant doesn't mean what Ryan said
it to. No, that's like a christ Christmas game. That's
change guests.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
The elephant in the.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Room, the elephant in the room, not the white elephant.
All of us skipped over that. By the way, Shannon
and I will give our verdicts after the break. TJ. Smith,
personal injury attorney, called TJ. He'll make them pay now.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
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Speaker 1 (23:13):
Who's listening to him, cackling in the background, just going on,
why are you you are? We all need to have
this self confidence Ryan does in himself. He like he
cackles like a hyena about things, and it's there's only
it's the jokes he makes Shannon, which usually are involving
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Flatulen's yeah, or it's an attractive older woman. Those are
the two things that make him laugh the most. Am
I right about that?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Those are his weakness?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Those are the like like he would be the easiest
person to do comedy for.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, everybody wants him in the front.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Everybody wants him in the front row. And there are
two kinds of jokes and he'll just laugh.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
That's Ryan.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
That's by the way. And I just somebody sent out
a picture and I just retweeted it of the mother
with the security guard behind her and the look on
his face. You need to go to Twitter and look
at it. Have you seen it?
Speaker 8 (24:14):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah? First of all, is she wearing a crown? U?
Is that like a princess? Crowd?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
She had one on at some point.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I didn't realize that, I think she is. Why does
she have a football?
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Probably probably one of the thirty touchdowns he threw he
gave to her. Every one in the crowd probably had
a football from that game.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
All right, So we didn't we didn't do ours Shannon,
what would you.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Do if there's no Lobo game and that was the end.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Of the season, just ended today.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, I would bring them back. I would bring him
back for one more season. But if it's if we
have the season again next year, that's it.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Does the does the for you too? Does the thirty
seven million dollars change it? Like, let's say there was
no buy then you if there was no buy out,
would you both let him go?
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah, if there's no buyo, that makes things a lot easier.
But I mean the thirty seven million dollars complicates every yew.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
But so let's just live in a world where there's
no buyo. Are you both doing it? Are you both
letting him go?
Speaker 5 (25:14):
I'm I'm still not letting him go because I think
they're five wins and this season, the way it started out,
I think it's a good turnaround. I think it's a
good coach and you got them again, take forgot to
forget what happened.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So you're on the no matter what, you'd bring him.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Back unless they get blown out again Saturday, then I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Drew's on even with the thirty seven million. So let
me ask you, Drew the question. I asked the caller,
where are you getting the money? You gotta find it,
because at some point saying I tell you I can't
get it, I don't. There's just there's nobody who'll give it.
So what am I doing?
Speaker 9 (25:48):
Well?
Speaker 6 (25:48):
At that point, I think we look at the ad
and say, how did we get in this situation? Fair Enough,
at some point you have to look at the money
you're gonna lose. It is crazy that they could not
sell out one single football game with all men Tennessee,
Texas and Florida on the schedule. That's embarrassing in itself.
So if you run it back, you're not gonna sell
it again next year. So at some point you're just
losing money and running fans off.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Well, you people say that, I'm not sure that's true.
I mean, for instance, last year was our high season
ticket sales of any year besides COVID, and I believe
we were twelve hundred down this year. Now that's a
decent amount of money, but it's not thirty seven million
dollars next year. I would expect it would be down
(26:31):
some But like we had a caller say, twenty thousand, Ryan,
that's not it wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Be down that much, I wouldn't think no.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I mean that would be one out of every two
season ticket holders saying no.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
If they do another spring where they don't even speak, Now,
that's it could happen, right, So for me.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I'm making you all do it. I'll answer to there
needs to be a change in terms of it's just
better for everybody if there's a different coach next year.
But I do think if I'm trying to like figure
out the financial responsibilities here, I don't think you can
just pay a thirty seven million dollar lump sum in
(27:12):
sixty days. I just don't think the University of Kentucky
can do that. Now, if I had a magic tech
like tech billionaire who came to me and said, Madam
will write you the check, then honestly, I'd probably do
it because I think it's necessary because I think the
FAM morale is so low. But if you don't have that,
(27:35):
then I'm with you, Shannon, I don't think you can
do it, yeah, because I don't know where you that
money does not grow on trees. You have to remember
that from every other fan base that did this, they
had a deal where they could pay it over time.
Jimbo Fisher is the only one that had a lump
some payment. Interestingly enough, Drew the same agent Mark Stoops
(27:58):
had who Nego sheiated it and two Texas A and
m Alums came and said we'll pay for it, and
that's why they did it.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
We don't have that, And it seems like Kentucky's biggest
people that possibly could pay that are very close with
Mark Stoops.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Now. I think four or five weeks ago, some of
those people agreed there was a change needed. I'm not
sure if that's what they think now. I'm not trying
to speak for him, but I'm not sure if that's
what they think now. Now, maybe Shannon, if you lose
by fifty to Louisville, we'll think something different.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Right, Yeah, And it really does all come down to
this game. I think that the narrative for Stoops that
we're going to have when the offseason all comes down
to what happens on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Right, last question, Let's say you beat Louisville and made
a Bowl for Drew. For you, you still make the change.
If you're six and six and you make a.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Bowl, I still have very little faith in next season,
but I'll admit it is much harder to fire him
if he made it to a bowl game and pay that.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah. So, I mean that's where we are, and you
say that was zero faith moving forward. I don't let
me just say I don't have a lot of faith.
But I also know coming up with that money, they
don't have it unless it magically appears. They don't have
it because this athletic department is at this point. This
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will change in five or six years when the business
of Nile becomes more clear, But right now, our basketball
and football roster were dependent on the generosity of a
handful of people, and I don't think those people feel
the way a lot of this fan base does, at
(29:48):
least to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's kind of
the sense I get.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
And next year's schedule is where you've got four home
games in the SEC, five road games in the SEC.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, Nick Rause is sending me so season tickets last
year we're down about twenty five hundred. So that's a
decent amount. But what's what? What is? What does season
tickets cost? Twenty five hundred is times?
Speaker 9 (30:13):
What?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Right? Twenty five hundred times? What's a season ticket cost?
Twelve hundred dollars something? Like that average. Yeah, it's so
widespread with Yeah, it's all, But what would the average
be you think, let's just say fifteen hundred dollars, let's
just say that. That's it's probably high, but let's just
say it. Twenty five hundred times fifteen hundred is what
Shanton put that into the thing.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Twenty five hundred times fifteen hundred would be three point
seven million.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Three point seven million. That's conveniently a decimal place from
thirty seventy million. So that means to make up that
that thirty seven million, you would need twenty five thousand
people to stop their season tickets.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
I don't know if that'll happen.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
That's not gonna happen. So I'm just I'm just doing
the math. I'm not making judgments. That's just the math.
Mark go ahead, and Mark, guys go ahead.
Speaker 8 (31:12):
Hello. Yeah, you were on the right track that I
thought he was. On Saturday, you kept asking everybody where
the money's come from. You have thirty eight thousand season
ticket holders for football. You charge each one two hundred
dollars more. That comes up to seven point six million dollars.
You pay the new coach six million dollars you've got
three million dollars less over. If you can't get the thirties,
(31:33):
you can't get a loan, so you don't have to
do the sixty days. Okay, then there's I.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Mean to get a loan. Your your math. You're paying
for the new coach, but you're still not paying for
the old coach.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
Well, the old coach that we have a budget. You
have a budget next year. If he is he's still here,
you have a budget of.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Not our budgets in the road, by our budgets. No no, no, no, no.
The nine million dollars. They have to pay it in
sixty days.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
Okay, you get alone.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
The problem is thought, here's a problem with here's a problem.
I bet they could get alone. I bet they probably could.
Here's the problem. For the first time, hang on. For
the first time in twenty years, the athletic department is
in the red now because of nil. They used to
be in the black. We used to give money back
to the school. We are now in the red and
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we actually had to take a loan from the school.
It's first time we've ever had to do that, by
my understanding, in a long long time. So this is
probably the worst financial position the athletics department has been
in in twenty years.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
Have you looked at that schedule next year?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Oh, it's terrible, it's gonna be terrible. Whoever they goes.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
I mean, here, we're going to we're going to relive.
We're going to relive what we did this year.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I agree again, but but that still doesn't make the money.
But that still doesn't make the money appear.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
I mean, I thirty eight thirty eight thousand season ticket
holders pay two hundred dollars more.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Thirty eight thousand, But that could be, but you're still
thirty million short.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
No, well, you do whatever. You have to get a loan.
If you do that, thirty eight thousand times two hundred
dollars gets you seven point six million dollars.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Per year, and you still have thirty four million.
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Huh, then you have then you that's seven point six
per year. You get a loan, but.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
They have to pay it in sixty days. They have
to pay it in sixty days, So you.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Have to you have to get a loan to pay
the forty five million dollars.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Just get a loan.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Match we're just keeping loans. We have a loan to
put Wi Fi in the stadium, I mean, and there's
also the fact that they're trying to do this entertainment district,
which I don't know it will work, but my guess
is they have a huge budget for that. So again,
I'm just giving you realities. I'm not the one making
the decision. Drew would let him go now, money be damned,
(33:57):
Shannon and Ryan would keep him. I'm leaning towards getting
rid of him, but I also somebody's gonna have to
show me where my money comes from, because I don't know.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
We keep focusing on Stoops and Bowley in the schedule.
It's a money issue. Where's Mitch's accountability? He handcuffed both programs.
I think it's a completely fair no. No one's saying
his name and all this cloud.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Well it should because you're right that contract was a disaster.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
So yes, Stoops could be better. But we're in this
situation because a Mitch not Stoops. Stoops just signed of
paper that was beneficial for him, which anyone with a sign.
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We need to I mean like people need to express
themselves on this stuff. One person writes, Matt, I all
my friends are Ryan's age. I feel like I know
people are similar to him. I don't know anybody that
doesn't want to change. Who are these people that Ryan
know that are cool with bringing them back. It's a
(35:35):
good question, right, I mean, not not their names, but like,
what kind of people are we talking?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Well, I can read you a text message I got
if you want me to go? That's trying to be funny.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Well he gets mad, Yes he does. I love you
for that. You like you? Ride all laugh at it
if somebody writes him on the table level. But Ride
does not like strangers giving him a hard time. I
know you guys can do it.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
They can. Okay, here's the text I got. You're talking
about this currently? I think Stoops needs another year. His
mentality is perfect for us. He had a terrible schedule
the last two years. If Bowie is this good and
they can improve offense, I'm good with it.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
See. I wish we could do Drew a pole of
the fan base because I continue to believe it's hard
to get a representative sample, you know what I mean,
Like it's hard to know. If you go on Twitter,
everyone wants to fire. If you go on CHS board,
virtually everyone wants to fire. If you come to our shows,
(36:30):
you see how it fluctuates week to week. Yeah, right,
I don't know what it's like if you're if you
were to take a poll of the season ticket holders.
I don't know. I feel like I say this a lot.
I feel like we interact with more different types of
fans than anyone, and it's still hard to read because
(36:52):
every group is different. I had a lady on Friday
at the Remote Shannon at Parlor Pizza get mad at
me and say you're way too mean to stop, and
I was like me, yeah, there are people who think
I'm too nice to him. So I don't know, Drew,
how you could get a representative sample, and I wish
I could, Like if I said to you texting the
(37:12):
text machine, do you want to keep him or not?
I think the notts would definitely win because the keeping
people are going to be like, well, I don't want to,
so I think we're Drew. It's like we're all almost guessing,
you know, yeah, and I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
I'll get I'll get two messages in two minutes, and
one of them will say you're being too mean. Stop
being frank Franklin, this is unbecoming, You're not a fan,
this is bad for the university, and the other person
is like, you're not being mean enough, and they will
be back to back in my messages a minute apart.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
And the other thing is we all tend in life
hang out with people that are like us, Shannon, right,
So we end up we end up with hearing the
opinions of people who have the same opinions we are.
It's exactly what happened to my party in twenty sixteen.
Democrats only hung out with each other and then we
couldn't believe Trump won.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Yep, if you did that poll this past friday, you'd
have a completely different result than you would And you.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Even Drew, who's the one who most thinks there should
be a change, acknowledges if we beat Louisville, maybe it flips,
and so like, that's why this is all so much
in flux. It seems like even week to week. One
person writes Matt, I don't understand how boosters could want
him back. Did they not care about the university or
(38:21):
do they just care about their friendship? Well, that's easy
for you to say because it's not your money. So
let's let's just put our money where our mouth is.
How much would you be willing to give to pay marks?
How much money would you be willing to write on
a check that goes directly into Mark Stoop's pocket.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Me zero dollars because I didn't put him in this
spotcatire Matt.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Now, Drew is the one who most wants a change,
and he's willing to put up zero dollars.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
Because I'm not backing up the situation that someone put
them in there.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
And that's a reasonable position.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Yes it is, and there are normal circumstances I would
but I'm not letting someone out.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Okay, but think about that. We want these people to
pay money, and a lot of them may have Drew's
view of well, I'm not the one that did it.
I ain't paying and so then where are you getting
the money? It's not going to magically appear somewhere because
I Drew's position is completely reasonable, Shannon, that would be
the position you would have. Of course, I ain't paying it.
(39:25):
You did this, Do.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Whatever you want with the money as long as it's
not mine. I don't care what you do.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
And I think that would be just another bailout for
him and a couple of boosters. So fans want a bailout,
and there are a couple and a lot some of
the boosters may be like.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Well, I ain't coming from me. So Mark, Anthony, what's up?
Who's next?
Speaker 7 (39:44):
Good morning? Oh y'all go ahead listen fellas uh Diego's mom.
The first shot I saw over shit or propped up
on it railings right, I wasn't the I had boots.
It was the area between the top of them boots
and them all right, all right.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Mark, that's that's a right there. Just everybody just turn
it down a little bit.
Speaker 7 (40:05):
Okay, there was there was little boys watching the football game.
Fell in love with you. It was mine and didn't
really know why. I understand as far as next week's game.
When you have a horse, you run him in a
race and he finishes, dfl uh, your next move is
to go down in class. And I really think, I
(40:26):
really think next week's game we're going down in class.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
We are.
Speaker 7 (40:29):
That gives us a chance.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
And this is a race next week.
Speaker 7 (40:36):
So if people are still wanting to get rid of
Stoopsy after next year, even if the next month, next week,
even if he wins, who you're going to get to
replace him? And is that person going to be able
to recruit enough talent?
Speaker 8 (40:50):
Well?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
I disagree. That would be one place I would disagree
with you. There are people I appreciate the call you
could get. This job is now much more attractive than
it was fifteen years ago. In Mimi, Dennis and Richmond.
Go ahead, Dennis.
Speaker 10 (41:06):
It all comes down Saturday, and you know Steps wins
this game and as a good off season that camro Bowley,
there's gonna be season tickets. I'm a season ticket older,
and you know I'm gonna renew my It all comes
down to Saturday.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Okay, So is that right, Dennis? You your renewal will
will depend on whether we beat Louisville.
Speaker 9 (41:30):
Well, well, I don't want It's gonna come down to
a lot of things. But I've been a Sea ticket
older since ninety eight, so I'm not one of these
people that want to I'm not irrational to give up
my season tickets because of one football game. But I
had become a frustrated the last few years, the last
(41:51):
couple of years, especially because we got drug three times
this year in the SEC we did three times we
got drugs, and there's at this one. Don't get me wrong,
I'm a speech guy, but at some point this has
got an end now to me, Like I said, it
all comes down Saturday and what we do Saturday Day.
Speaker 7 (42:10):
I think there's a.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Lot of Denis. I gotta cut you off because we
gotta go to break. I think there's a lot of
fans like Dennis, Yeah, more than you think, who are
like their view can change. Came to game, and Saturday
will be big for those people. We're gonna take a break,
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Welcome everyone on your Tucky Sports Radio. Monday, November the
twenty fourth. I'm Matt Jones on a cloudy, kind of
cool day. I'm in Louisville, Kentucky. Ryan and Drew are
in Lexington. Shannon's over there in that little studio box.
It is Thanksgiving weekend and I'm excited about it. Big weekend.
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We got basketball, got football, we got the Kentucky volleyball
but it was it wasn't the best weekend of the
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(01:22):
right now, Shannon.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Pu probably down on Broadway in Nashville kit rocks bar.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You don't know, we.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Haven't seen much of hers.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I just want to start with it, Like, we could
be all down and depressed today and we have to
talk about the disaster that was the game. But I
think there's some value Shannon in like and sort of
laughing to start the day, right, Sure, So we have
to talk for a second about Diego, About your quarterback's mother. Yeah,
(01:51):
Diego Povey.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Paviy A's Mom's got it going on, Apparently, the cameraman thinks,
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
No, exactly, no exaggeration. In the history of sports, has
there ever been a parent that was shown more on
a game broadcast than his mom was on that one?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
No, she was shown six times on one score. They
kept cutting away from the game to his mom, back
to the game, back to Pafia's mom.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Ryan, you've been watching for a long time. You worked
in TV for years. Can you ever remember anything like that?
Speaker 5 (02:29):
You brought it up on the Postgame Show when Christian
Latner's mom was in that neck brace. That's the only
thing that comes anywhere close. And it still wasn't as
many times as they showed Diego, Pobby.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Even Donna Smith, No, not even close.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
She would get maybe one time.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Drew, do you can you think of a time, no, no, no,
I thought forever my two were Donna Smith And if
you remember when Blake Griffin was awesome at Oklahoma, they
just had a camera on his parents all the time.
I thought those two were gonna help hold the crown forever.
But Poby's mom is a legend for how much they
showed her on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And we and listen. First of all, let's talk about
the good. It's nice rhyding that she's like celebrating her son, right,
that's good.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Everybody Every parent should be like that. Yes, celebrating what they're.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Sobriding their son. That's nice. There's a family get together,
that's nice. But we do have to talk about the
rest of us, which I want all of us to
sit here and think of our mothers. For a second.
All right, Drew, you think of your mom, Ryan, your
mom shading your mom, I'll do my mom. What are
(03:35):
the chances we would see our mothers in that outfit?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Zero zero?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I mean, for those of you that know my mom
because she caring wearing that, just think about it's my
senior day and my mom will showing up in thigh
high boots.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Come on, sh is straight out of a Shaggy nineteen
ninety five music video.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Shack me Like you know you're you saying she was
missus boom basket.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Bostic, Yeah, like she was.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
At what point she was like kissing some guy's hand,
did you Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I saw that.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
That was weird.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I'm like, who is this guy who's getting his hand
kissed by Poppy's mom.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
She walked out on the field first of all, his brother,
as Drew pointed out on cover zero, was in a tuxedo.
His brother and her did not look like they were
dressed dressed for the same event, did they?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
No, I'm not sure. It was just the whole thing
was as weird.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It was bizarre. But even with all that, I'm not
sure they'll ever be a moment quite like Drew when
she was saddled up to the rail.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Oh incredible, incredible, absolutely incredible, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
She was, she was riding that thing, genuine pony.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
She was playing in my head as she was riding it,
and I said to people with me, I was like,
thank god, this game isn't close, because if it went
to overtime, they would have to switch to HBO if
they're going to continue.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
To show her, because each time they showed her it
got a a little more and more provocative, more and
more saucy. As the game went on.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
They obviously had one camera dedicated to her, and.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
She imagined that guy's job. By the way, they're like John,
mom cam.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
A whole game. They stay on her.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
There are gigs and sports.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And then like you're right, she got more and more
provocative and at that moment and like, I don't feel
bad talking about it, because she was like pointing at
the camera. She clearly was like camera, find me now.
Drew made a good point that after she saddled up
to it and was pointing, they never showed her again.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Do you think that was a call from the network
like Okay, things are getting we got we gotta slow down.
Mickey Mouse called in he broke the record, he got
his his moment where he walked off the field with
the backup came in. He was a big part of
the final minutes, and they did not show her again
show during Now she was all over that rail.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I mean the rail video. I'm kind of shock, Shannon
that wasn't a bigger internet thing.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah, I mean it's good for ratings.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
That tells me that she was probably doing something that
they just could not show like that, Like whatever happened
next was something that could not be shown on You need.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
To go watch the video of her on the rail
and look behind her. Okay, if you haven't seen it yet,
look at the man who I believe is a Vandy
security guard. That guy, Okay, you need to look at
that guy and look at his face. He has a
look of like I have the best job in sports.
(06:36):
It was, you know, I was so bummed about the
game itself, but I just couldn't get over how much
they were showing her. And then there's Shannon, the theo
Von part, like he's he's at senior day, like he's
on the field.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
He's about to be Pavia's step dad, no doubt, because
he's got a thing for Pavia's mom.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
See, I kind of always thought that was like kind
of a joke. I don't think I don't think it's
you think you think it's legit.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
I think it is. Yeah, you wanted that date with it,
with this mom.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I just have to say, and again I'm not hating
do your thing, Diego, Pavi is mom. I mean this
is his like last moment in the spotlight, right, do
your thing. But the all I could sit there and
think about was like the difference in what my senior
day would have been with like mom and Larry and
(07:34):
them walking on the field versus Diego Pavi's senior day
with thigh high boots, cut off shorts, a tuxedo on
his brother and theo Vonne Drew. It's just it's an
unbelievable thing. Like it just shows you how different humanity
(07:55):
can be. Yeah, that's the Pave experience. I mean, you
know a year ago or two years ago that got
the lanyard there, That stadium's under construction, there's no fans there.
They have a locker room that's a tent. And then
fast forward they flipped a pavy a switch and he's
got He's sitting next to a parent grinding on a
rail for a sold out stadium as they're whooping to
I mean, just one the world for Vandy. That will
be one for the books right there.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
It's must see TV, which makes me think he's gonna
be invited to the Heisman ceremony because they want that.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I think you might. He might. Yeah, I mean it's
it's unbelievable. Now, as far as the game, that was bad,
he is terrible. Everything went poorly everything. The offense couldn't
move the ball, defense we could not stop. I mean,
(08:42):
we couldn't do anything. It was forty five to three
at one point. If they had wanted to, I think
it could have been in like sixty five to three. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
They took Pavey out in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, I mean they took him out. It was I
thought I thought we could lose. Actually picked us to win,
which seems ridiculous now. I thought we could lose, but
I just I did not think Ryan it would be
like that. I thought after the last few weeks that
was kind of out of our system. But it clearly was.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
You guys are right. The final score forty five seventeen.
It was much worse than that. It felt like seventy
to three. It was so bad. What their first twelve
plays they had eighteen yards of offense. I mean, they
came out of the gate just awful and never recovered
from it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Drew. What do you blame that? Like they're I mean,
they're better than us, clearly, and they played well. But
that's the kind of beatdown that should not happen at
this stage of a program ever. I mean just I mean,
we've lost these other games. Even South Carolina beat us
(09:48):
pretty badly. But it wasn't that. That was like old
school embarrassment level. Yes, it absolutely was.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
It was only the third time under Mark Stoops they've
given up six hundred yards. The other two were many
years ago to Georgia in Alabama. Pavias said a Vandy record,
I know your defense is beat up and wounded, but
that doesn't explain getting whooped like that. I mean, sure,
I didn't think we'd win, and I knew they'd have
trouble stopping that offense, but he was just picking them apart.
Even early in the game, he made a couple of
(10:15):
third down throws. The guys were just wide open in
the middle of the field. You could tell in the
first series that it was over before we even got
minutes into the game, because that offense was just doing
whatever they want.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Whatever they wanted. I mean, we had no chance of
covering them. You know. It was it was. It was embarrassing.
It was embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
And the deep balls, I want to add, you know,
because I mentioned the injuries, the guy gotten burned was
quarterback one on the deep balls, so that wasn't even injury.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Thing that was your start was a great throw. Like
if that was the one thing that happened, you'd go, well, okay,
I mean actually oddly, even though he got burned, I
was oddly like, well, that was a great throw, great whatever.
But then it just continued to get worse. You know,
I guess you would say, well, they didn't quit, but
the who cares I mean, were getting beat by so much.
(11:01):
This was the one thing Ryan that couldn't happen. You know,
if you were if you were trying to kind of
win back fans that you had lost weeks ago, the
one thing you couldn't do is get blown out. And
then they did. I think all the negativity that had
circled for weeks came back doublefold, and it put us
(11:24):
into we are now in purgatory, and we're gonna definitely
be in purgatory if we lose to Louisville. But this
was the one thing if your Mark Stoops, you could
not have happened. And Ryan then it did.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
That game we all saw our social media, the Stoops
detractors came out in full force, back at it, rallying
the troop. After the three game win streak, they're back
in full force. And now this game is, as Drew predict,
it all comes down to the Louisville game. The whole
perception of the off season is going to depend on
how they play in that game. Coming out.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I mean, do you think, though, is there any chance
it was so bad that what happens in the our
assumption going into the game that Mark Stoops was back regardless.
Is there anything that happened Saturday that changes that?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Not in my mind, but I know in a lot
of fans' minds that share his Jane.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
What do you think, I'm only watching a voluntarily stoop
step away. I don't see Barnhart doing it, just with
his comments and just the nature of Mitch Barnhart. I
think still at this point, Winter lose Saturday. For it
to change, you would have to be Stoops looking around
and saying I don't want to keep going forward with this.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Is there a world though where that was a consideration
before and Saturday made it more likely?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Well, I asked you because Shannon, I didn't want to. Well,
I gave my opinions on Saturday, and I'm going to
talk about that a little later because I was kind
of shocked at some of the reactions Saturday. Not the negativity.
I knew that would be there, but it.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Just came out, and like you said, they kind of
doubled down on everything, like it came out in full force.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Threefold, threefold.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I don't think that Mitch Barnehart has got it in
them to fire Stoops.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
No, I don't think he has it any He also
doesn't have the money. But there's also a sense of
a fan base. You know, you can get to a
point where a fan base has had it so much
that it makes it toxic. And I didn't think that
was gonna happen, but I think the way we lost
brought that back.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, And if you lose forty five to seventeen against
Louisville again.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
If you get blown out by Louisville, then I think
you almost have like you can't take two of those,
especially since Louisville stinks now.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, yeah, they're terrible.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Little stinks right now. If they were to blow us out,
then that's a whole nother thing.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
A team that's kind of lumping into this game then game.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I mean they got blown out last week. Yeah, they
got blown out thirty eight to seven.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
If it was a bad week when the Michigan State
basketball game ends up with them putting their walk ons
walk ons in and then Vandy put their walk on a.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Week with two more embarrassing losses, we've had two laws
is it probably hurt more? But I can't think of
two more embarrassing in one week. My mom wants it
to be clear she would not be in those boots.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I don't anybody thought she would caroenl look good in
those boots though.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
All right, Ryan, you know you you're it's a good
thing you're there.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Stay away from my mom too, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Mean, Ryan, you go hang out with theovon. Remember what
did you do my mom in my wedding run.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Drew's mom was pinching my butto.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
No, Ryan, I did say Shannon on cover zero that
theo Von being in that picture would be like if
it was my senior day and you saw the picture
and it was me, Mom and Larry and Dana Carvey.
That's what it would be like, right.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah, it kind of would. It's just the hot somebody,
somebody make that happen. Yeah, do your thing.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Me, Mom, Larry and Dana Carvey at the Middlesborough High
School Senior Day Ay five nine two A, you know,
twenty twenty seven. We'll talk more about this. We will
take your calls, get out into here. I'd like to
hear your opinion. Unlike what people think. We don't sit
to the calls. Shannon on the Morning Show. Shannon just
gets to decide by whether he likes you or not.
We'll take a break and be right back this Cass,
(15:16):
I knew you were gonna play this. This is the
part that I like. I know, Shannon, you and I
were different people, but we have the same brain mailed
when it comes to music. I knew you were gonna
play this, and I like it. It's the right choice,
all right. Parents shown in games Steph Curry's mom. They
did show her a lot, Yeah, they did. I don't
think as much as this, not even close. Greg Marshall's wife,
(15:40):
Oh well, yeah, that's true. Did show a lot, Yeah,
they did. Drew knows something about her. Who's a edition
because of Greg Marshall's wife.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
I was an international story that day because Lonzo Ball's dad.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Yes, yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
That's probably close to be honest, Ryan h. A. J.
Mccerrn's girlfriend and mom.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
How about the Reed Shepherd family.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Well, for the local broadcast, yes, they did show a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
But I think it's not just Shannon that they showed her.
It's the it's just the behavior.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Oh yeah, I mean it was a party the entire game,
and kept more and more provocative as the night went on.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, it was a party. It is. Well, listen, do
your thing. I'm not girl, I'm not I'm not hating
hobby people.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
You think it'll be watching Vandy Tennessee just for Papia's
mom this weekend.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
If you if it was your mom, would you be embarrassed?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Probably?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Yes, I don't think we all would of our mothers.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Definitely. Okay, so yes, But do you think he was
or do you like this is great.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
She was probably at the table at are still in
Nashville with him until three in the morning.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Do you but like, is there is there something good
about that relationship where like he's hanging out with his
mom or is it odd?
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Yes, it's better than an absent mom. They seem to
hang out and I would just be like, Mom, it's
my senior day. Maybe some pants and then you're good.
The boots what burst, rights, Matt, I'm sixty two years old.
Those boots are fashionable now I wear them. Yes, she's
on a different level, but don't absolutely crush thigh high
(17:31):
boots sixty two Shannon and wearing.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Them for you.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
There's no age lemon on boots, I guess, or booty shorts.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
I mean, let's let's.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
It is senior day. It's not like she was just
going out with.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Her friends and there is a white elephant in the room.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Okay, I'm worried. I'm worried too. Run it by Drew. Drew, Okay,
whisper it to Drew and Shannon will let Drew decide
if he gets to say it? Okay, all right, because
I trust drews I understand I'm back. Can he say it?
Speaker 6 (18:07):
I mean, it's it's not as bad as I thought
it would be. So I'm asking you can he say it?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Sure? All right? Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
The white elf in the room is she's a hottie.
That's why she was being shown as often as she was.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
It wasn't great, but I expected worse. Yeah I did.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
That's not even white all. I mean, I think everybody knows.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
That, but we didn't mention, haven't mentioned it yet.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Because we are grown ups and we imply things. We
don't need to say explicitly what people know. We don't
need to Okay, Okay, I would you Drew, you knew
this is what you knew? That Mario you too? Yeah,
that's on if Mario's in there and let that happen,
that's on him too, all right, Adam, go ahead, Adam.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
I feel like joke m parents.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
That's a good one. That's a good one from the past.
Good call, Adham.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
At the game aside, which was terrible, we all know that.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
You know.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
I actually found myself liking Diego Pavia and I know
he is at the end of the draft boards. I
hope he makes his in the NFL and maybe his
bomb can quitter job but they's a boo oh.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Stop, that's rude. He's not gonna make the draft. I
don't think, Shannon, I've not seen him. I mean, it's
probably like a t bow situation where like his talents
are perfectly served at the college level.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, I don't think that he will, but I mean
I don't you never know. I mean there there could
be a team out there.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I mean, at least somebody who brings him into camp.
I guess, and they'll see I mean, how tall is he?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Sure he's like a little Doug Flutie.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, that's exactly That's a great way to put it.
He is he is. He is a Doug Flutie.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
So I mean, if worked for Flutie, maybe it could
have worked for him. But I just don't see it happening.
But I could be wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
By the way, I don't see any value in in
like going over the game, we stun Let's let's talk
for just a second about where this fan base is.
It is. We had four weeks ago where we did
the little raise your hand. Ninety seven percent of the
audience at Whiskey Thief wanted a new coach right right then.
(20:10):
We did it last week and how many of the
audience wanted a new coach. It was like three right,
totally flipped, totally flipped. Now where do we think they are?
I think we're right back where we were.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
I think it's that bad.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
You think it's back to whiskey thief? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
I mean the three game win streak was fun, and
I'll never diminish to win over Florida or at Auburn,
but I think he still needs more than that to
really win people over.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
So does that say fans are in some ways fickle? Okay?
You could flip back and forth that quickly.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Sure, I was thinking it was more closer to maybe
seventy thirty.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay, So Ryan, if you were to go online, it's
almost universal we need to change. Correct. Do you deal
with people, because I think you probably more than anybody
on this show. Do do you deal with people who
are like, we should still give him another year?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
I do, But then again, most people I deal with
they're closer to my age. I think maybe the older generation.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Some one of those people say, because I think those
people are probably not on message boards, they're not on
social media. What is it that they say?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
This is what I think you know? We've gone through
these horrible UK football seasons of the nineties where we
finished one in ten and two and nine, when there's
eleven game seasons. It was had the nation's longest losing streak,
all those losing games to Tennessee, to Florida. Just the
fact that we're back to this level is such a turnaround.
(21:43):
They could give credit all the stoops. So I think
they're willing to throw him a little life jacket, a
life preserver.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Just what if there's people who would say the life
preserver was we brought you back after you were four
and eight last year.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Yeah, that was a bad year last year. But I think,
just as me again, if I talked to the fact
he's kind of turned it around here in the middle
of the season, even despite the game yesterday Saturday.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Let's say there was no Louisville game and you were
the ad also knowing you have to pay a thirty
seven million dollar bio, are you letting him go? Ryan?
Speaker 5 (22:18):
I'm not. I'm bringing him back because I want to
bring Cutter Bully back, and I want to bring Bush
Hammdon back, and we're gonna build on this what we
started here this year.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
I gotta find that money because next year is not
gonna be fun. People aren't gonna buy tickets.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
And when you are letting him go, people.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Are gonna make a statement next year. Yeah, unless they
find a way to market cutter Bowli and find a
way to bring some life into the stadium. I mean,
the people bragging about how fun a Vanderbilt game was
is my biggest takeaway of all of it. Forget the loss.
The fact that Vanderbilt has an atmosphere that people want
to be a part of is a bigger problem.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
By the way, white elephant doesn't mean what Ryan said
it to. No, that's like a christ Christmas game. That's
change guests.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
The elephant in the.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Room, the elephant in the room, not the white elephant.
All of us skipped over that. By the way, Shannon
and I will give our verdicts after the break. TJ. Smith,
personal injury attorney, called TJ. He'll make them pay now.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
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Speaker 1 (23:13):
Who's listening to him, cackling in the background, just going on,
why are you you are? We all need to have
this self confidence Ryan does in himself. He like he
cackles like a hyena about things, and it's there's only
it's the jokes he makes Shannon, which usually are involving
(23:34):
Flatulen's yeah, or it's an attractive older woman. Those are
the two things that make him laugh the most. Am
I right about that?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Those are his weakness?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Those are the like like he would be the easiest
person to do comedy for.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, everybody wants him in the front.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Everybody wants him in the front row. And there are
two kinds of jokes and he'll just laugh.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
That's Ryan.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
That's by the way. And I just somebody sent out
a picture and I just retweeted it of the mother
with the security guard behind her and the look on
his face. You need to go to Twitter and look
at it. Have you seen it?
Speaker 8 (24:14):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah? First of all, is she wearing a crown? U?
Is that like a princess? Crowd?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
She had one on at some point.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I didn't realize that, I think she is. Why does
she have a football?
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Probably probably one of the thirty touchdowns he threw he
gave to her. Every one in the crowd probably had
a football from that game.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
All right, So we didn't we didn't do ours Shannon,
what would you.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Do if there's no Lobo game and that was the end.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Of the season, just ended today.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, I would bring them back. I would bring him
back for one more season. But if it's if we
have the season again next year, that's it.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Does the does the for you too? Does the thirty
seven million dollars change it? Like, let's say there was
no buy then you if there was no buy out,
would you both let him go?
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah, if there's no buyo, that makes things a lot easier.
But I mean the thirty seven million dollars complicates every yew.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
But so let's just live in a world where there's
no buyo. Are you both doing it? Are you both
letting him go?
Speaker 5 (25:14):
I'm I'm still not letting him go because I think
they're five wins and this season, the way it started out,
I think it's a good turnaround. I think it's a
good coach and you got them again, take forgot to
forget what happened.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So you're on the no matter what, you'd bring him.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Back unless they get blown out again Saturday, then I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Drew's on even with the thirty seven million. So let
me ask you, Drew the question. I asked the caller,
where are you getting the money? You gotta find it,
because at some point saying I tell you I can't
get it, I don't. There's just there's nobody who'll give it.
So what am I doing?
Speaker 9 (25:48):
Well?
Speaker 6 (25:48):
At that point, I think we look at the ad
and say, how did we get in this situation? Fair Enough,
at some point you have to look at the money
you're gonna lose. It is crazy that they could not
sell out one single football game with all men Tennessee,
Texas and Florida on the schedule. That's embarrassing in itself.
So if you run it back, you're not gonna sell
it again next year. So at some point you're just
losing money and running fans off.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Well, you people say that, I'm not sure that's true.
I mean, for instance, last year was our high season
ticket sales of any year besides COVID, and I believe
we were twelve hundred down this year. Now that's a
decent amount of money, but it's not thirty seven million
dollars next year. I would expect it would be down
(26:31):
some But like we had a caller say, twenty thousand, Ryan,
that's not it wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Be down that much, I wouldn't think no.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I mean that would be one out of every two
season ticket holders saying no.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
If they do another spring where they don't even speak, Now,
that's it could happen, right, So for me.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I'm making you all do it. I'll answer to there
needs to be a change in terms of it's just
better for everybody if there's a different coach next year.
But I do think if I'm trying to like figure
out the financial responsibilities here, I don't think you can
just pay a thirty seven million dollar lump sum in
(27:12):
sixty days. I just don't think the University of Kentucky
can do that. Now, if I had a magic tech
like tech billionaire who came to me and said, Madam
will write you the check, then honestly, I'd probably do
it because I think it's necessary because I think the
FAM morale is so low. But if you don't have that,
(27:35):
then I'm with you, Shannon, I don't think you can
do it, yeah, because I don't know where you that
money does not grow on trees. You have to remember
that from every other fan base that did this, they
had a deal where they could pay it over time.
Jimbo Fisher is the only one that had a lump
some payment. Interestingly enough, Drew the same agent Mark Stoops
(27:58):
had who Nego sheiated it and two Texas A and
m Alums came and said we'll pay for it, and
that's why they did it.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
We don't have that, And it seems like Kentucky's biggest
people that possibly could pay that are very close with
Mark Stoops.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Now. I think four or five weeks ago, some of
those people agreed there was a change needed. I'm not
sure if that's what they think now. I'm not trying
to speak for him, but I'm not sure if that's
what they think now. Now, maybe Shannon, if you lose
by fifty to Louisville, we'll think something different.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Right, Yeah, And it really does all come down to
this game. I think that the narrative for Stoops that
we're going to have when the offseason all comes down
to what happens on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Right, last question, Let's say you beat Louisville and made
a Bowl for Drew. For you, you still make the change.
If you're six and six and you make a.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Bowl, I still have very little faith in next season,
but I'll admit it is much harder to fire him
if he made it to a bowl game and pay that.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah. So, I mean that's where we are, and you
say that was zero faith moving forward. I don't let
me just say I don't have a lot of faith.
But I also know coming up with that money, they
don't have it unless it magically appears. They don't have
it because this athletic department is at this point. This
(29:26):
will change in five or six years when the business
of Nile becomes more clear, But right now, our basketball
and football roster were dependent on the generosity of a
handful of people, and I don't think those people feel
the way a lot of this fan base does, at
(29:48):
least to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's kind of
the sense I get.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
And next year's schedule is where you've got four home
games in the SEC, five road games in the SEC.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, Nick Rause is sending me so season tickets last
year we're down about twenty five hundred. So that's a
decent amount. But what's what? What is? What does season
tickets cost? Twenty five hundred is times?
Speaker 9 (30:13):
What?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Right? Twenty five hundred times? What's a season ticket cost?
Twelve hundred dollars something? Like that average. Yeah, it's so
widespread with Yeah, it's all, But what would the average
be you think, let's just say fifteen hundred dollars, let's
just say that. That's it's probably high, but let's just
say it. Twenty five hundred times fifteen hundred is what
Shanton put that into the thing.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Twenty five hundred times fifteen hundred would be three point
seven million.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Three point seven million. That's conveniently a decimal place from
thirty seventy million. So that means to make up that
that thirty seven million, you would need twenty five thousand
people to stop their season tickets.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
I don't know if that'll happen.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
That's not gonna happen. So I'm just I'm just doing
the math. I'm not making judgments. That's just the math.
Mark go ahead, and Mark, guys go ahead.
Speaker 8 (31:12):
Hello. Yeah, you were on the right track that I
thought he was. On Saturday, you kept asking everybody where
the money's come from. You have thirty eight thousand season
ticket holders for football. You charge each one two hundred
dollars more. That comes up to seven point six million dollars.
You pay the new coach six million dollars you've got
three million dollars less over. If you can't get the thirties,
(31:33):
you can't get a loan, so you don't have to
do the sixty days. Okay, then there's I.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Mean to get a loan. Your your math. You're paying
for the new coach, but you're still not paying for
the old coach.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
Well, the old coach that we have a budget. You
have a budget next year. If he is he's still here,
you have a budget of.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Not our budgets in the road, by our budgets. No no, no, no, no.
The nine million dollars. They have to pay it in
sixty days.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
Okay, you get alone.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
The problem is thought, here's a problem with here's a problem.
I bet they could get alone. I bet they probably could.
Here's the problem. For the first time, hang on. For
the first time in twenty years, the athletic department is
in the red now because of nil. They used to
be in the black. We used to give money back
to the school. We are now in the red and
(32:25):
we actually had to take a loan from the school.
It's first time we've ever had to do that, by
my understanding, in a long long time. So this is
probably the worst financial position the athletics department has been
in in twenty years.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
Have you looked at that schedule next year?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Oh, it's terrible, it's gonna be terrible. Whoever they goes.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
I mean, here, we're going to we're going to relive.
We're going to relive what we did this year.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I agree again, but but that still doesn't make the money.
But that still doesn't make the money appear.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
I mean, I thirty eight thirty eight thousand season ticket
holders pay two hundred dollars more.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Thirty eight thousand, But that could be, but you're still
thirty million short.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
No, well, you do whatever. You have to get a loan.
If you do that, thirty eight thousand times two hundred
dollars gets you seven point six million dollars.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Per year, and you still have thirty four million.
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Huh, then you have then you that's seven point six
per year. You get a loan, but.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
They have to pay it in sixty days. They have
to pay it in sixty days, So you.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Have to you have to get a loan to pay
the forty five million dollars.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Just get a loan.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Match we're just keeping loans. We have a loan to
put Wi Fi in the stadium, I mean, and there's
also the fact that they're trying to do this entertainment district,
which I don't know it will work, but my guess
is they have a huge budget for that. So again,
I'm just giving you realities. I'm not the one making
the decision. Drew would let him go now, money be damned,
(33:57):
Shannon and Ryan would keep him. I'm leaning towards getting
rid of him, but I also somebody's gonna have to
show me where my money comes from, because I don't know.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
We keep focusing on Stoops and Bowley in the schedule.
It's a money issue. Where's Mitch's accountability? He handcuffed both programs.
I think it's a completely fair no. No one's saying
his name and all this cloud.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Well it should because you're right that contract was a disaster.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
So yes, Stoops could be better. But we're in this
situation because a Mitch not Stoops. Stoops just signed of
paper that was beneficial for him, which anyone with a sign.
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but if you are, Court dot com. Lots of comments
coming in, a lot of people have thoughts this is good.
We need to I mean like people need to express
themselves on this stuff. One person writes, Matt, I all
my friends are Ryan's age. I feel like I know
people are similar to him. I don't know anybody that
doesn't want to change. Who are these people that Ryan
know that are cool with bringing them back. It's a
(35:35):
good question, right, I mean, not not their names, but like,
what kind of people are we talking?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Well, I can read you a text message I got
if you want me to go? That's trying to be funny.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Well he gets mad, Yes he does. I love you
for that. You like you? Ride all laugh at it
if somebody writes him on the table level. But Ride
does not like strangers giving him a hard time. I
know you guys can do it.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
They can. Okay, here's the text I got. You're talking
about this currently? I think Stoops needs another year. His
mentality is perfect for us. He had a terrible schedule
the last two years. If Bowie is this good and
they can improve offense, I'm good with it.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
See. I wish we could do Drew a pole of
the fan base because I continue to believe it's hard
to get a representative sample, you know what I mean,
Like it's hard to know. If you go on Twitter,
everyone wants to fire. If you go on CHS board,
virtually everyone wants to fire. If you come to our shows,
(36:30):
you see how it fluctuates week to week. Yeah, right,
I don't know what it's like if you're if you
were to take a poll of the season ticket holders.
I don't know. I feel like I say this a lot.
I feel like we interact with more different types of
fans than anyone, and it's still hard to read because
(36:52):
every group is different. I had a lady on Friday
at the Remote Shannon at Parlor Pizza get mad at
me and say you're way too mean to stop, and
I was like me, yeah, there are people who think
I'm too nice to him. So I don't know, Drew,
how you could get a representative sample, and I wish
I could, Like if I said to you texting the
(37:12):
text machine, do you want to keep him or not?
I think the notts would definitely win because the keeping
people are going to be like, well, I don't want to,
so I think we're Drew. It's like we're all almost guessing,
you know, yeah, and I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
I'll get I'll get two messages in two minutes, and
one of them will say you're being too mean. Stop
being frank Franklin, this is unbecoming, You're not a fan,
this is bad for the university, and the other person
is like, you're not being mean enough, and they will
be back to back in my messages a minute apart.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
And the other thing is we all tend in life
hang out with people that are like us, Shannon, right,
So we end up we end up with hearing the
opinions of people who have the same opinions we are.
It's exactly what happened to my party in twenty sixteen.
Democrats only hung out with each other and then we
couldn't believe Trump won.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Yep, if you did that poll this past friday, you'd
have a completely different result than you would And you.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Even Drew, who's the one who most thinks there should
be a change, acknowledges if we beat Louisville, maybe it flips,
and so like, that's why this is all so much
in flux. It seems like even week to week. One
person writes Matt, I don't understand how boosters could want
him back. Did they not care about the university or
(38:21):
do they just care about their friendship? Well, that's easy
for you to say because it's not your money. So
let's let's just put our money where our mouth is.
How much would you be willing to give to pay marks?
How much money would you be willing to write on
a check that goes directly into Mark Stoop's pocket.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Me zero dollars because I didn't put him in this
spotcatire Matt.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Now, Drew is the one who most wants a change,
and he's willing to put up zero dollars.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
Because I'm not backing up the situation that someone put
them in there.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
And that's a reasonable position.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Yes it is, and there are normal circumstances I would
but I'm not letting someone out.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Okay, but think about that. We want these people to
pay money, and a lot of them may have Drew's
view of well, I'm not the one that did it.
I ain't paying and so then where are you getting
the money? It's not going to magically appear somewhere because
I Drew's position is completely reasonable, Shannon, that would be
the position you would have. Of course, I ain't paying it.
(39:25):
You did this, Do.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Whatever you want with the money as long as it's
not mine. I don't care what you do.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
And I think that would be just another bailout for
him and a couple of boosters. So fans want a bailout,
and there are a couple and a lot some of
the boosters may be like.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Well, I ain't coming from me. So Mark, Anthony, what's up?
Who's next?
Speaker 7 (39:44):
Good morning? Oh y'all go ahead listen fellas uh Diego's mom.
The first shot I saw over shit or propped up
on it railings right, I wasn't the I had boots.
It was the area between the top of them boots
and them all right, all right.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Mark, that's that's a right there. Just everybody just turn
it down a little bit.
Speaker 7 (40:05):
Okay, there was there was little boys watching the football game.
Fell in love with you. It was mine and didn't
really know why. I understand as far as next week's game.
When you have a horse, you run him in a
race and he finishes, dfl uh, your next move is
to go down in class. And I really think, I
(40:26):
really think next week's game we're going down in class.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
We are.
Speaker 7 (40:29):
That gives us a chance.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
And this is a race next week.
Speaker 7 (40:36):
So if people are still wanting to get rid of
Stoopsy after next year, even if the next month, next week,
even if he wins, who you're going to get to
replace him? And is that person going to be able
to recruit enough talent?
Speaker 8 (40:50):
Well?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
I disagree. That would be one place I would disagree
with you. There are people I appreciate the call you
could get. This job is now much more attractive than
it was fifteen years ago. In Mimi, Dennis and Richmond.
Go ahead, Dennis.
Speaker 10 (41:06):
It all comes down Saturday, and you know Steps wins
this game and as a good off season that camro Bowley,
there's gonna be season tickets. I'm a season ticket older,
and you know I'm gonna renew my It all comes
down to Saturday.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Okay, So is that right, Dennis? You your renewal will
will depend on whether we beat Louisville.
Speaker 9 (41:30):
Well, well, I don't want It's gonna come down to
a lot of things. But I've been a Sea ticket
older since ninety eight, so I'm not one of these
people that want to I'm not irrational to give up
my season tickets because of one football game. But I
had become a frustrated the last few years, the last
(41:51):
couple of years, especially because we got drug three times
this year in the SEC we did three times we
got drugs, and there's at this one. Don't get me wrong,
I'm a speech guy, but at some point this has
got an end now to me, Like I said, it
all comes down Saturday and what we do Saturday Day.
Speaker 7 (42:10):
I think there's a.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Lot of Denis. I gotta cut you off because we
gotta go to break. I think there's a lot of
fans like Dennis, Yeah, more than you think, who are
like their view can change. Came to game, and Saturday
will be big for those people. We're gonna take a break,
We'll come back. I renumber two. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.
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