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November 26, 2025 • 42 mins

KSR is on the road in Columbia, KY at Don Franklin Ford on Thanksgiving Eve discussing Kentucky - Louisville football and coach Craig Skinner from UK Volleyball joins in. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Comedy Off Conay. Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio Wednesday.
It is November the twenty sixth day, packed house. Great
crowd here in Columbia, Kentucky, Adare County at the Don
Franklin Ford on a beautiful day, the day before Thanksgiving

(00:47):
and uh what for? What a great crowd here in
Adare County. How about this Ryan Livin?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, new building and they've packed it. I think they
were really excited to see all the blue come in
here today. So a nice crowd, that's right.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Don Franklin Ford, you can give Shannon the Clark's Pumping
Shop phone line eight five to nine eight twenty two
eighty seven Avis and Auto Glass text machine is seven
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all the best deals. And I'm sure for Thanksgiving, Black Friday,

(01:23):
et cetera, a ton of deals, guys. Columbia, Kentucky. So, Shannon,
you and I hold, you know, fond memories of here.
First of all, I drove through this town, or rode
through this town many many times on the way as
a kid to Campbellsville to visit my grandmother. There was
a taco bell here, yeah, which was the one place

(01:43):
I could get taco bell because we didn't have it.
And then you spent one fine year at Lindsey Wilson
playing baseball. Your old coach is there. He seemed to
fondly not remember you being on the team. I know
he wouldn't, but uh, you spent a whole year living here.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
I did, yeah, coach tally to Lindsay Wilson for years
and years and years, hundreds of baseball you know, players
throughout the year, so I'm sure he doesn't remember me.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
I was just you know, a freshman, Kevin.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I feel like I feel like I would have remembered you. Yeah,
I wouldn't remembered your name, but I would have remembered
you were on the team.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
But I always have a lot of nostalgia coming back here.
A lot of things really haven't changed, you know. I
went through the campus today and a lot of it
still looks the same as it. The town, the town.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Squares there with the one Mexican restaurant that I feel
like has been there. We've eaten there many times, Acapolco,
uh in our various points here. So it's nice. Been
a few years since we've been back to Columbia. We
used to do I think we did Ryan a few
years the show with a pizza place uh.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
Here, Burger Key, yes, yeah, the Columbia Burk, the burger case.

Speaker 7 (02:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
We've actually done a number of shows over the years here,
but it's been a while. Nice to be back.

Speaker 7 (02:45):
Yeah, we were.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Here like every summer when we start our summer touriste.
A guy got a shirt on right there, twenty four.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, twenty fourteen. That was the best that's a that's
a collector's it item right there. That was where we
sold a lot of those, and sometimes they show up.
That's always a good old school fan there.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Well, and told a good story the about coach Tally, Hell,
you will you tell the story?

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Well, we had to do we had to do like
a campus mile, right, that's something we would do. We'd
have to run a mile and pictures of course always
had to run more because they want their legs to
be in shape.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
And this one particular day, I didn't feel like running.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
So there was somebody riding around on a golf cart
and I said, Hey, can I get a ride on
that golf cart?

Speaker 5 (03:18):
I just don't run right now.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
So this person took me around, you know. And then
when we got closer back to where the baseball field is,
to where you know, Coach could could maybe see us,
I jump off of it and I.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
Wait for everybody else to catch up.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
And then when we finally get back around there, he
calls me out and knew that I was on the
back of that golf cart and cheated on the campus
mile and had to stay after practice and clean up
the field.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Say I'm shocked. We'll play here. One year. That makes
makes I have more sense now, Drew after hearing the story.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
Yeah, with all THEU respect, Shannon, that story does not
surprise me. Yeah, you would pull that it was only
a mile too. I mean, how lazy of me?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
It is pretty lazy. Well, listen, it's a big, big
weekend basketball game and football game. Last time you'll have
both on this weekend. But also, how about a big
round of applause for the UK women's volleyball team that
came back last night and won the SEC tournament to
finish SEC play completely undefeated. So, Ryan, you and I

(04:14):
are gonna have this conversation because someone on this group
left early because they thought they were gonna lose, and
it actually this time was not me. It was not me,
Ryan Lemon and I. We went to the bar. First
of all, was that not fun?

Speaker 7 (04:26):
It was packed A lot of fun, a lot of fun.
They were into it.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
A lot of fun. Kentucky plays. We had a great
crowd at the bar watching Cats go down, lose the
first set, second set, should have won. They kind of
blow it at the end, third set, fall behind and
it's like, well looks bad. Lots of people got up
and left. Yeah, including one of the hosts on this show.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
Wait a minute, why is this about me? I could
only stay for two sets?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Did he not leave?

Speaker 7 (04:55):
Well, it's a good thing he did, because.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
The moment he left it turned around.

Speaker 6 (04:59):
For the last two sets, the moment was turkey to cook.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
The moment he left, it turned around, and probably half
the crowd stayed. But then it was really exciting, great comeback.
I had Craig Skinner's gonna join us at ten thirty
to talk about the wins. But it was an awesome
victory and Ryan actually a lot of fun being around
when the game was over. The guy there's a guy

(05:22):
that plays the fight song on his harmonica. He played
it in the in the bar and it was excellent.
So what a win for that team? Well, two things.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
One, I was really lucky. I got to sit by
a volleyball expert during the game. The would tell me
when they had some bad sets.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I was very I was good. Announced What did I
say was Kentucky's problem early bad sets? Bad sets? Yeah?
They when they would say it, they wouldn't. They wouldn't
say it. I'm gonna ask Craig Skinner and see if
he agrees with my analysis on the game.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
But we do drew a jetic gratitude because the minute
he walked out the door, that's when they.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Didn't turn around the moment he left. The moment he left,
it got a lot better. Shannon, So he is he
is the bad luck that was occurring. I'm like, oh,
for fifty a ks bar. I told Ryan, I was like,
I'm leaving and watch this. And I texted you before
I was home. I said, helda yep.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Even in that third set down twenty three nineteen, you
feel like it's over. You feel like they're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Marcus Spears was our first of all. He got Diego
Pavia level mom level of TV time. They showed him
a lot and he I mean, he had a look
like he was already doing the horns like a match
you know, had a number of match points and they
fought them all off. I'm really enjoyed it. I you know,
I don't ever watch volleyball until we get to kind

(06:33):
of the end of the year, but I really enjoyed
that game. And you you can't help but be tense
throughout the whole thing.

Speaker 7 (06:39):
And those were two really really good teams.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Kentucky is like really good and Man, when they were
got went down oh two, they like elevated their play,
they got better.

Speaker 7 (06:47):
And once they got that momentum, man, they couldn't be stopped.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
It's kind of when I went to Tennessee to watch
them a few weeks ago, they went down a set.
A couple other times I've watched them go down a set,
and even last night now second s I got a
little dicey about. Told Ron It's like, this is kind
of what they do. They're about to turn on the comeback.
But I didn't expect it to get to three championship
points for Texas. I mean, Dexas Texas had them absolutely
against the wall and then they flipped that switch and
they looked like a completely different team.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
So Kentucky's almost certain to host the first four games
of the NCAA tournament. They'll host two different rounds. The
bracket comes out I think Sunday, and then if they
win both of those rounds, they'll go to the to
the final four. So it's gonna be exciting. And in Lexington,
I think the bracket comes out Sunday and the tickets
go on sale Monday, So just keep that in mind.

(07:32):
Now we've got a basketball game tonight. We've got a
football game Saturday. We've spent a lot of time on
this show this week talking about football. We will talk
about in a minute, but let's talk for a second
about basketball, all right. We didn't get to this yesterday, Ryan,
but Mark Pope's Mark Pope's Show on Monday. He said
Jalen Lowe is now playing two on two non contact.
Not exactly sure how that works, but he is playing,

(07:55):
and that Jaden Quaints is now playing three on three contact.
So there may be a chance that both of those
guys are playing by conference play. Would you agree with that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:05):
He Temmy talks about Jayden Clayton's it's a big improvement.
First it was he's doing non contact drills. Now he's
doing two and two says last night he's doing three
on three.

Speaker 7 (08:13):
So, I mean, if the early.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Projections were him to give him back in early December,
he seems to be on that track, and boy, they
could use him inside me.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
You get both those guys back, it's a different team.
I mean, it's it's hopefully it's a lot better than
what we've seen in these in these first couple of
really good games, but it's certainly a different team now.
They won't have either of those guys tonight. I don't
know that there's much that you can say about whatever's
gonna happen tonight. I'm taking my parents, so I'm looking
forward to that. But beyond that, is there anything you

(08:40):
think you can get from this evening's game.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Don't get hurt, That's the main thing for me.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Let's try to keep everybody healthy as much as possible
throughout this game.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
I want to see Cam Williams take another step That
was big of him in the last game, first starting role,
probably the MVP of that game, almost had a double double.
Even joke with that, Brandon Garrison stole two of his rebounds.
Need to see him take another step up because I
think this team needs him. That four spots still a
little shaky, especially with Diabat not being a shooter. Cam
Williams needs to be a part of the rotation.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
You know, when I make a drive like this, I
always listen to usually podcast, and there was a podcast
with Bill Simmons and this basketball guy and they were
talking about the NBA and the NBA has is more
points have been scored in the NBA this year than
any year since like the sixties, and it's significantly higher
than last year. And they were talking about the two reasons,

(09:29):
and one is that they're calling more fouls. But the
second is that now in the NBA, with the exception
of a handful of people, everyone that can shoot from
the outside, including the Sinners, like this, even the Sinners
are now acceptable three point shooters. I was watching the
Suns the other night. They got Nick Richards out there
shooting three pointers. I mean Nick Richards, did I mean?

(09:50):
And he's actually playing and been pretty good, and he's
shooting threes. I thought about our team when I heard that,
which is this gets back to can we play these
guys together? Because you put Modiabatte and Brandon Garrison on
the floor together, you got two guys that can't shoot threes.
I do agree with Drew cam Williams is huge because
you can put him at the four and he can

(10:11):
make threes.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
You know, he's done so well, you know, halftime in
the Louisville game, he came in and he played so
well the other night. But yet he's not doing the
one thing that he's known for, and I shoot the basketball.
He's earning minutes by doing everything.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
He's like one for five the other night, dude.

Speaker 7 (10:22):
Yeah, he had nine rebounds.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
So I think just inserting him in the certing line
of him and Malachi both kind of give him a
little breath of fresh air and a lot of it
seemed to be more energized, more energy it seemed like
they had against Lola.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I think Trentoneau is not playing and like when he's
I mean, I know he's not playing in part because
he's not playing well. But what do you think is
I expect? I mean, he started the game against Purdue,
started and like didn't get in. It was a healthy
scratch against Louisville and really has not been good all year.
What do you make of that? I don't know.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
For a little bit, you think of the turned ankle,
but that's been a while, and he was, like you said,
he warmed up in Louisville and they said he was
ready to go and just didn't play. I'm starting to worry.
You know, we bragged about how he slimmed down, but
I'm worried he might not be ready for the physicality too.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Skinny.

Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yeah, and you know he was not the most physical
guy to begin with, and I think at least so far,
that turn him a little bit in a physicality's only
going to ramp up. But against Michigan State and Louisville specifically,
the whole team kind of struggled with that.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
He doesn't look comfortable out there to me like he
did last year. You know, I think last year he
got a lot more minutes than he expected to probably
going into the season. But for some reason, something just
looks different this year with it.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
We talked a lot about after the Michigan State game.
Team chemistry. I don't know how much. We didn't talk
about this on the show Monday, but they did like
signing the event in Southern Indiana right on Sunday, so
it was like it was Diabatee and O Way and
I want to say, Jalen Lowe. I think those were
the three guys, and they clearly it's almost as if

(11:47):
they on purpose made a big show of we like
each other. Like they're all joking around and laughing, and
like somebody posted a picture of them kind of cutting up,
and then all three of those guys retweeted, all three
of them like, hey, we get along, leave us alone.
Do you do you think the chemistry thing was overblown.

Speaker 7 (12:07):
I think it was way overblown.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I mean, I still think something happened before that Louisville game,
and it may have been Pope, not have been the
players at all, But the chemistry was good from the minute.

Speaker 7 (12:16):
Get we were there in practice.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Jack Gibbons, these guys have all seen practices after practice,
they've never said anything about We said that was chemistry
on the court.

Speaker 7 (12:25):
He kind often.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Was he making that clear? Yeah? So he did. He
means like the basketball pieces, But in the first interview
he didn't say that. Did he do another one?

Speaker 7 (12:32):
He did? Okay, Yeah, okay, yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
He came in and he was on Coutler Show, and
he said, I was talking about the chemistry on the floor.
They just seem to be out of sync. And I
think that goes through Jalen Loan not being out there
as your point guard.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah. Well we I mean, obviously we're gonna need him. Now.
We play North Carolina in six days and I'm gonna
talk about this later. But I've watched a lot of
college basketball last two days, Shannon, and I'm a little
I'm a little bit worse. Yeah, I am here a
little bit worse. I mean, I I now see what
Rick Patino is talking about when he said this may

(13:03):
be the best year, but let's put that side. We'll
talk about it later. Do you think I mean that
North Carolina game to me is huge because it's at home,
Like we I okay, I thought we were gonna beat
Michigan State.

Speaker 7 (13:12):
We did Louisville game.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
I want to beat Louisville, but it doesn't really concern me.
It was a true road game. Michigan State game concerns me.
You gotta beat North Carolina at home because I tell you,
Gonzaga looks like they're gonna crush everybody.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Kentucky's look great against these lesser opponents, but at some
point you gotta beat somebody. And you got North Carolina,
you got Gonzaga, you got Saint John's on the non goverment,
you got Indiana.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
You gotta win some of those games.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
And we have an SEC that's not very good. We
have an SEC that right now, I want to say,
is like four and eighteen against the top sixty teams
in kim POM. Literally like last year we were like
fifteen and three, right and now we're like four and eighteen,
Like we can't that's bad.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
So It is concerning, without a doubt.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
I looked at Alabama last night though, talking about SEC's
teams that put up on hun fifteen, and I'm going, like,
can we do that if we played them?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
But I do worry about right, we gotta beat some
of these teams Drew because the SEC is not gonna
give us the same amount of sketch. You know, last
year we went like five hundred in the SEC and
we're a three seed this year. It ain't gonna be
like that. These teams aren't nearly as good. The hoping
lost by like forty.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
Yeah, the whole league's down, but I've watched two full
Tennessee games. They're a lot better than I expect.

Speaker 7 (14:27):
Yeah, they are.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
Just look at what's in front of us. Though, I'm
pretty worried about Gonzaga like everyone else. So I think
you don't have a must win game in December. But
if you drop North Carolina and you drop Gonzaga, you
can't be zero to four in major games. I mean
that'll be a horrible.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Look. That's got to be a huge great It's is
it late? Is it nine o'clock? Gonzaga or North North Carolina?
Is Tuesday? On a Tuesday. I mean, is gonna have
to be probably drunk in loud. But that's a I
can't remember last time RUPs had thirty game. I mean,

(15:01):
that's a that's a late game.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
If you were to lose all these big games and
have five losses in the non conference, that would be bad,
and then going into the conference.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
I mean, I mean, you get six losses.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
I don't know that any of these wins are certain. Yeah, so,
I mean, but we'll beat the bad teams because they're
bad team. And the other thing is these bad teams
were playing are really bad. They're not like kind of bad.
They're at the bottom of the schedule bad, which also
doesn't help us a lot.

Speaker 6 (15:25):
Sure, we're playing a lot of teams outside the top
three hundred.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
We're playing the worst teams in the country. A five
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We'll take a break. We're here in Columbia, Don Franklin Ford.
This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back. It is Kentucky
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(15:51):
sedans only at Don Franklin Otto, there's food back there
in the back if you all want it. I want
to give a shout out to a couple of including
Keith who's on his way home, whose father's very sick
from Ecuador. They say he's listening on a plane. We're
praying for you and your dad. Ron a couple other

(16:11):
just quick prayer notes. Drew Diner, who many of you
know for many years did UK Sports now does U
of L Sports. His father passed away and the funeral
was yesterday. He's been around UK and U of L
Sports for thirty years. Father lived in Louisville for sixty years.

(16:32):
Prayers to him. Saw all those folks at the funeral
home yesterday, and then just another thing, some sad news
my mom. You all know this person, one of my
mom's very good friends, Kope, passed away that she worked
with for many many years down in Bell County. And
I know her family's listening. So prayers to you all
as well. In the holiday season eight nine two eight
zero twenty two eighty seven, when person writes Matt I

(16:56):
coach volleyball. And I know Ryan was making fun of you,
but actually, Craig Skinner said after the game they changed
the primary center because they were not playing well and
that made a difference in the game. Bam man.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
I am just so thankful and blessed.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
I was sitting by an expert last night that pointed
that out to me the whole game.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Early. You know, she would make the sets and they'd
be behind the person I don't know what the spiker,
and then she just had to tap it over and
she wouldn't be able to spike ball. No were over,
don't say ball, don't lie shand and I understood.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
So the spikers and the bumpers were good, but not the.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Sun the center got the centers were not setting well.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
But then they changed the center and things were being
set better.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
They should make you the color commentator.

Speaker 6 (17:42):
So it was in match adjustments, my Skinner.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
That's exactly right. We could use some of those on
the other right. Let's switch for a second. We'll go
the phones in a minute. I'm gonna have Craig Skinner
at ten thirty and then I'll go to the phones.
Let's talk football. Kentucky Louisville Saturday. Louisville is the favorite,
but who knows what you're gonna get from Louisville. I'm
hearing sources are telling me the quarterback's gonna play, all right.
I don't know if that's in the news or not.

(18:06):
This is just this was on this morning. I got
a message. So I think there's a good chance the
quarterback plays the starter. But they're gonna be out with
their top three running backs, out with their their top
wide receiver. I wanted to ask you, though, the Vince
Marrow piece of this, like, how much do you think
the fan base and specifically that coaching staff wants to

(18:27):
beat him?

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Well, fan base a lot, Yes, the coaching staff probably
a lot, and they won't admit it.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
But I really think I would say the coaching staff
probably wants to even more than the fan.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
Well, I'll put the players above that, because you got
to remember, Vince went through spring, Vince recruited these guys,
Vince looked at them. He left in July, like even
the new transfers new Vince. I mean, he brought them here,
helped build that team, and then left in the middle
of the summer. So Mark, he said things, you know,
nice things. I guess there's been some personal things that

(18:58):
he and Vince dealt with together back home, maybe some
tragedy or something he didn't really allude to. He was
playing it off. But I bet those players are gonna
look over there seeing a guy that left him in
the middle of the summer.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
You can love somebody, Ryan, they can be like a
brother to you and all that, but you still want
to beat him. I mean, I I told the story
about how I grew up hating the Washington then called
Redskins because my friend Trevor liked him. That is the
reason I didn't like him, and I love Trevor. But
it didn't matter the fact that Trevor liked him make
me want to dislike him even more. You know, Mark Stoops,

(19:29):
you know it. He it has to annoy how much
credit his friend got for all the recruiting, Even if
Vince deserved it all, it had to annoy, right. He
probably wants that Saturday in part for that as much
as anything.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
You're right, man, Sure it's for boy eligibility. Sure it's
on their home field, sure where they're underdogs. But you
want to beat Vince maryl who's over there in red
on that sideline on Saturday. Like Drew said, he recruited
most of these guys on the Kentucky team. They want
to prove to him, you made a mistake. We're the
better team. You should have stayed here. I forgot he
stayed till July.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I mean right, some of these guys got trapped in
here essentially, even well, I mean trapped. Maybe they liked it,
but either way, they were here, and then he deserved.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
It's still hard to believe that Vince is over at Louisville.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
You know, there was nobody who's more anti Louisville ELL's
Down than Vince Merrow.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
And then he joins the Louisville team.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
It's just no. I mean, listen, I love Vince Marrow.
Oh yeah. With that said, dude was doing ELL's Down,
mocking Louisville for years, and I probably said to him
fifty times on the phone. You go anywhere else, I'm
wearing the paraphernalia and cheering for you, but if you

(20:42):
go to Louisville, I hope you lose every game and
I will boo you every single time you walk on
the field. And then he went, so I owe it
to him to when he walks out boo right in
his face, Drew. I mean, I know I have to
he's my friend, but I don't care. He knows the deal.
He was.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
He was on the good side of this rivalry for
more than a decade. Didn't he one year tweet mid
game like from the Louisville sideline talking trash about.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yes, he talked trash before the He was tweeting before
the game was over. One of those years we beat
him by So he knows what he did.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
It's not like he's gonna be surprised by the reception
the Kentucky fans there given me.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
He knows exactly.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
He has to understand.

Speaker 8 (21:22):
You know.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
The one thing that surprised me about the interview you
did with Rick Patino is Rick Patino seemed like he
didn't understand why Kentucky fans didn't like him when he
went to LITWA.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
But thence he knows this. He absolutely knows.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Do you uh? How do you feel about it? By
the way, I have no idea what's gonna happen, Like none.
You could give me any results Saturday and I would
not be shocked.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
You know, going to the game last year, our team
kind of quit and they just strolled us. It seems
like it's reversed a little bit. It seems like they're kind
of checking out. They got guys who all of a
sudden are sitting out. They don't want to get hurt
for the draft coming up and things like that. They
got their quarterback, Miller Miller Miss. He's not Miller Moss.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
It's Miller.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Oh Man. He is on fire. Is he gonna get
past that?

Speaker 7 (22:04):
Here's my fun fact.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Right about Miller loss, Miller loss.

Speaker 7 (22:08):
Here's my fun fact.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
When the games in Lexington, Louisville has won more games,
When the games in Louisville, Kentucky has won the most matchups,
So it's like the visiting team was winning. So that
just adds to our expectations to win tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (22:22):
That's a really fun, great fun fact.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
I mean when I hear that fact, I'm like, that
is so much fun.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Yeah, we have their number there while we playing the game.
It's a guaranteed win, guaranteed win.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
But are you with me, Drew, Like I have no.
You could give me any result us by twenty, them
by twenty, and I wouldn't be shocked.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
I've already hammered the bats. The Governor's Cup has been
good to be financially for several years. I don't know
why they keep making us the underdog when we won
so many a row, but I'm counting on that one
more time. Do need the injury report to look good though,
that's sir.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
There's a lot on the line. We'll talk more about
it as the show goes on. Craig Skinner's gonna join us.
Then we will take your calls. We'll be right back.
We're here Don Ekland in Columbia, water back. It is
Kentucky Sports Radio here at Don Franklin Ford in Columbia.
But I would back up every qualifying part back by
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(23:13):
of mind included mile after mile. We are now joined,
and I hope everybody will give a big round of
applause to now the SEC tournament champion, first one in
twenty years. Craig Skinner, the coach of UK Volleyball. Craig,
I love that stat. They hadn't had the tournament forever
and so you all just went out and won the
first one. What was that like last night? Oh?

Speaker 9 (23:35):
Just an incredible match and environment, and you know, the
SEC did a phenomenal job putting that on for the
first time ever and really investing in volleyball and recognizing,
you know, the momentum that has and for us to
pull that out after basically being dead in the water
after set to it was an even in set three.
It was just an amazing accomplishment for our team.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
You say dead in the water, I mean it was
twenty three nineteen in the third set, you call time out.
They went to the sideline reporter. You probably don't even
know this because you're coaching the game, and they said,
and the sideline reporter said something like, UK's volleyball has
come out with more energy out of this huddle than

(24:18):
I've seen all night. I'm interested interested to see what
they'll do about it. And I was sitting with Ryan
at the bar and I was like, that's kind of
a weird thing to say the game, the match is
almost over. And then you did what happened in that
time out? What did she see that made her say that.

Speaker 9 (24:35):
You know, I don't you know, we've earned the opportunity
to be in this moment and don't let this slip away.
And you know, our team is they run the enthusiasm,
the fire of the intensity. I mean, I don't have
to do anything to motivate them to compete. I mean,
their internal competitive drive is unmatched, you know, so far,
and they just they never flinched whatsoever, you know, and

(24:58):
every point in the match. And the sign of great
teams is they have no recollection of what just happened.
They're just totally consumed of what's going to happen in
the next whistle. And this is the way this team
has been all year and they continue to do it.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Last night, all right, I'm not we're not official commentators,
but I set with Ryan Lemon at the bar last night. Ryan,
did you think we've had good analysis?

Speaker 7 (25:20):
Listen? Coach.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
I was blessed to be able to sit by a
volleyball expert last night watching him because he pointed out
early on our sets are off.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Here's what I said. I said, don't let him, don't
let him read it wrong. I said that it felt
like to me that the sets, which I guess is this,
you know, when you lob it up in the air
for the spike, that they were off in the first
and second sets. And he was making fun of me
and I kept saying it, but then it felt like
it got better now, am I was I wrong in

(25:49):
reading that?

Speaker 9 (25:52):
No, the connection was not where it needed to be
in it and it actually started with the first contact.
The server was a little bit rough, was off, which
creates issues for the setter to get her feet there
and create the same rhythm, and you know, it's it's
a combination of all of it that Yes, the last
you know, Spike kill show whatever you want to do

(26:12):
was not we're not getting full gas and that's a
combination of the tempo and rhythm of execution, and for
sure that was off, and then it got better as
the match went on. So I mean, I think you guys,
should you know, call ESPN and see if you can
get on and call a match.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I told you, let coach. We were at the bar
last night and it was you know, I just thought, well,
it's the SEC Final, it's a random Tuesday night. Let's
have a watch party and see what happens. And the
place was absolutely full, and a lot of those people
are people who come to your regular games at home
and obviously weren't able to go to Savannah. But it
was loud, it was exciting, I said, it was like

(26:49):
an atmosphere for a good basketball game. How does that
make you feel that this is happening for your program
and the fan support from the Big Blue Nation?

Speaker 9 (27:00):
Yeah, you know, I had several opportunities to be a
head coach when I was looking back, you know, I
was twenty four to twenty five years or thirty four
or thirty five years old. And the reason I wanted
to come to Kentucky was because it's the flagship institution
in the state where there's no pro sports. And I
guarantee if you build something special, they will get behind
and be all in. And it's proven true. And you know,

(27:23):
you know, thankfully we made the right choice as a family,
and and you know, you just can't build a special
program without a fan base like this. And can't thank
everybody enough. I mean, I don't. I had over three
hundred text messages last night, a half hour after the match,
and it's just an incredible feeling to be part of it.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
All right, Well, sorry about that. Tell me about your uh,
tell me about what happens now. I mean, the bracket
comes out Sunday. Are you all expecting to be able
to host through the final four? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (27:55):
I mean, first of all, our team, we'd send them
home for three days to just get away and only
physically they are gassed, and so, uh, but we'll we'll
practice Saturday night and Sunday and then selection shows is
Sunday evening. And yes we should. We should get a
top four seed and host the first and second round
starting a week from tomorrow, and then you know, and

(28:15):
then if we advance and then host the Reasonal.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Okay, So when I had a lot of people asking
me last night for that first and second round, is
it like the NCAA tournament you could either get Thursday Friday.
I mean, what, what what's the schedule?

Speaker 7 (28:28):
Like?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (28:29):
You the first thing around, you bid, it's it's we'll
play Thursday Friday, and uh, you know other host sites
will do yes Friday Saturday. So it just depends on
then use ESPN and and the hosts hosts site, you
know what they did, and and then the following week
the regional is is typically Thursday Saturday, but because of

(28:50):
the demand on ESPN, it's either Thursday Saturday or Friday Sunday,
depending on the TV schedule.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Okay, gotcha, Well, I'm expecting that you're going to have
a massive crowd of those games. I know we're gonna
we're gonna show them for all of them. It's very exciting.
And I have to tell you I want to thank you.
I was never a volleyball person ever in my life.
I guess two on two in the Olympics would be
the only thing I would ever see. And I starting

(29:16):
a few years ago, but really, like like that was
a really ran exciting sporting event, uh last night, and uh,
I appreciate you for just kind of bringing it into
my sporting worldview you and your team, So congratulations.

Speaker 9 (29:30):
Thank you so much, and appreciate all your support no
matter when it comes. Man, we just always love the
fact that people are jumping on board and appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Guys.

Speaker 9 (29:38):
Let me call in occasionally when you're ready.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, and Drew over there by the way has been
a regular attendee, so I don't want to take it.

Speaker 7 (29:44):
You've been.

Speaker 6 (29:46):
Women's Yeah's shirts. I couldn't find of men's. I was
rocking it last night.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
So I hope. So again, thank you very much. Congrats
on the SEC tournament win. We'll see in the NCAA.

Speaker 9 (30:02):
Appreciate you guys. Have a great day and happy thank you.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
All right, Happy Thanksgiving to you A five twenty two
eighty seven.

Speaker 7 (30:08):
Best co junk campus right there, Craig Skinner.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
And you're right about the fans. I have been to
Memorial a few times for regular season games. It is
crazy in there. I went two hours early for that
Tennessee match to go to El Mariouchi next door, and
they were already lined up the Memorial. I thought I
was going to be one of the first people there,
and there was a line on the sidewalk.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, it's been great. That'll be an awesome environment over
the next over the next couple of weeks at the tournament.

Speaker 7 (30:29):
Who's up first?

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Rick, Mike is up first? Mike, go ahead, Mike.

Speaker 8 (30:34):
Hey, how you doing man? How's there about doing?

Speaker 2 (30:38):
There? Doing good?

Speaker 8 (30:39):
Thanksgiving? First of all, hey listen. First of all, that
was come back last I was incredible. But I'm not
I've colled in. Is Billy there?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Billy is not on this show. You may not know
that he's on the other show.

Speaker 8 (30:57):
Okay, Well, I'm really told to support him. Our job
was kind of kid around, but he's plenty pleaded last
week and I just wanted to tell him I wear
nothing but pleaded pants.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
And there you go, Billy. Right here, this is one
of you right here only wears pleated pants. You and
this guy and.

Speaker 8 (31:19):
I and I have I have.

Speaker 10 (31:22):
I'm retired down but I've had to facial jobs, shirt
and tie all that thing. And I was like, I
bet I have not gone a handful of times to
work without pleated pants.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
There Billy has found his brother in the pant brotherhood.
Thank you very much, Mike. I appreciate that. There you go, Billy.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
It's important to have the right kind of pants on radio.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Maybe the most important place to wear pants is on
the radio. Who's next? Trevor is next? Trevor?

Speaker 11 (31:51):
Go ahead, Trevor, Hey Matt, Happy Thanksgiving? Heed to everybody,
go ahead, Happy Thanksgiving. It's about football this week. So
all this talk about going bowling with stoops to kind
of determine how it's side of the fans are. Does
the result of the bowl game, you know, come in
to play when it talks about our coach next season.

(32:12):
If we go in there and we get blown out
by a non SCC team, does that change anybody's mind.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
No, not at all, because you've already made the decision.
You've already made the decision. I appreciate the call because
of recruiting and because of the portal. The decision has
to be made before the bowl game. So practically speaking,
the bowl game is going to have no impact because
you're not gonna make the change after the bowl game.
So you you have to decide. And plus the bowl games,
I'm not gonna say they're meaningless meaningless, but they're kind

(32:39):
of meaningless because you don't even know who's gonna play
in these games anymore. So to me, the final determination,
and I think we all believe Stoops is going to
be back, but to the extent that it could not
happen Ryan, the final determination is the Louisville game. The
decision has to be made before the bowl game. If
you're gonna have a if you're gonna have a team next.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Year, Yeah, the bowl get into a bowl game is
so import because you get that extra month of practice.
You're gonna make this decision already ahead in advance, till
you got your continuity going into the spring football season.
You take him out of that equation and somebody's come
in and gotta start all over, not till next spring.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, they're not gonna do that, so we'll know. I mean, honestly,
we'll know pretty much. Drew in the postgame press conference
on Saturday, Mark Stoops will be asked, are you going
to be back next year? And he'll have If he's
not gonna be here, he'd have to at least go, well,
I'm gonna determine now. I guess Mitch and Mitch Barnhart

(33:36):
will be there and somebody will ask him to So
by the time my postgame shut show starts at four
thirty Saturday, we're gonna know.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
Yeah, it's about to get chaotic if whether change or not,
there's a lot going on. Signing Day is next Wednesday,
so I mean, as soon as Louisville's over, your high
school class is signing a few days later. Uh, the
transfer portal it's beginning of January. But it's the same
week as some bowl games. There are gonna be some
teams that are in a tough spot. It's the worst
NCAA calendar they could do because there's gonna be coaches

(34:04):
in another city at a bowl game when they need
to be having transfers on campus.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Well, I mean even yesterday Oklahoma State Shannon announced their
new coach and he's the coach of North Texas and
they're gonna be playing for the American champ Conference championship,
and if they beat Tulane in that game, they have
a chance to go to the playoffs. I mean it's
an outside chance, but it's a chance. And so the
North Texas coach said, I'm going to coach my team

(34:29):
through the end of the season, but then go to
Oklahoma State. That's gotta be awkward.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
It's so bizarre the coaching carousel on the timeline with
the playoffs and everything.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
I don't know why they can't adjust something.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Semesters though, I mean, like there is school.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
No, I mean, we're athlete students, not sing athletes.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
You're right, but part of the problem is they have
to have the portal in time for people to go
to school. But then that also makes it during the
playoff and Ryan, so I really don't know what the
NCAA is supposed to do. You could move the portal
to after the playoff, but then you're essentially acknowledging these
kids are not going to school because school have already

(35:15):
started at that point.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
That's what this lame Kiffen thing is so interesting to me.
They play Friday night in the Egg Bowl Saturday, he's
got to announce his decision.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
What was my prediction? Where's he announcing the decision? College
game day?

Speaker 7 (35:27):
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Speaker 2 (35:29):
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(36:11):
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in the surrounding areas, if you've thought about it, today
is the day to go Black Friday. I always think
of people buying cars. I remember my parents bought a

(36:31):
car a couple of times on Black Friday. What else
do people buying Black Friday TVs?

Speaker 6 (36:35):
I used to go to Walmart just to watch the chaos.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I didn't need you. Is that still like, is it
still a thing? Not the same because it's online and
all that.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
People would literally camp outside of stores, you know, overnight
just to get in.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
I love one of my mom's friends, it was like
our favorite day of the year. Like she loved it.
I think she enjoyed the chaos and just like fighting
people for things. So did you did you enjoy it?
You seem like you have that look like you enjoyed it. Yeah. Yeah,
So people just they don't do dud. Does anyone line
up anymore? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (37:08):
And now the online deals start, like lat of places
have had Black Friday sales for a month.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Just me. That's a shame. That's another thing that we
collectively did that. The internet is ruined for us.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
I love the fights. Now we don't get the fights anymore, that's.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Right, all right, So let's I wanna talk just a
second about uh, the two of these two guys next
to me here, uh Drew Franklin, or as he's been
called this week, Frank Franklin and Ryan Limit. So you
too have kind of been polar opposites on opinions this week,

(37:40):
Shannon and I have kind of been in between you guys,
but you two have been at various ends. Uh. Drew
has taken the kind of extreme anti I don't want
to say anti Stoops, but kind of anti state of
the program. And Ryan kind of surprised a lot of
people by Monday saying that no matter what, he would
bring Stoops back even if there was not a buyo,

(38:03):
which I thought was kind of an amazing thing. So
here's what I wanted to do, Shannon. You know, I'm
almost I'm a lawyer, or was I like debate? So
do you have you pull up a clock? All right,
I'm gonna let freight they they are not prepared for this.
This is this is completely this is completely cod I'm

(38:23):
very prepared, completely Cope, I'm gonna get both of these
guys to give the one minute case without interruption, which
is rare on this show, without interruption of why they
feel the way they feel. Drew, change needs to be made, Ryan,
No change needs to be made. Uh to the jury. Now,

(38:46):
I want you to pick a number one through ten,
and whoever's closer we'll get to go. We'll get to
choose where they go first or last. What do you have?

Speaker 6 (38:53):
I will go with lucky number four.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
What's yours?

Speaker 7 (38:55):
I'll go five? Then I guess it was two.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
So would you like to go first or last? Year?

Speaker 6 (39:00):
I'll go first. I'll let him collect his stay right.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
So, Drew Franklin, Shannon, you have one minute off the
clock or I was I would say, Frank Franklin give
the case as to why change needs to be made
with UK football.

Speaker 6 (39:12):
Oh, I'm gonna need more than a minute. My problem
is with the entire big picture that includes Mark Stoops.
But we have the longest tenured ad, the longest tenured coach.
What are we the best at? What are we even
halfway up the sec at? We're almost dead last in recruiting.
I think we're currently fifteenth Vandy's twenty spots ahead game

(39:34):
day atmosphere. I think we fall into sixteenth. The people
raving about Nashville are acting like Vandy has turn a corner.
We've been passed by Vandy. We've been passed by Missouri,
We've been passed by South Carolina, Mississippi State. We can debate,
but they're having a pretty good year now. I don't
know their atmosphere. Not a big fan of Startfield myself.
Stoops has been here a long time. We pretty much
know the gripes with him. First half stuff, run of

(39:57):
the ball. We all know that. I don't know that
a new code coach bringing him back whatever. I don't
think anything will work until UK Athletics wakes up and
tries to invest in football and making an experienced people
want to be a part of. They've won one home
game in a couple of years. The record against the
SEC is not good.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
When time time time No one minute time, that's time.

Speaker 6 (40:18):
I was just getting started, okay, but that's that's.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Why we have a minute. That's why we have a minute.
All right, So that is the case. Uh sort of
change needs to be made now, Ryan Lemon, you have
one minute to give the No matter what you would
bring Mark Stoops back case go.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Mark Steups is the best football coach at UK in
my lifetime and most of our lifetimes. He's done things
here most of us thought never could be done. Working
in the media, I've been with six different coaches now
and he's by far did things that we were one
in ten. One year we were two and nine. One
year we had the nation's longest losing streak in the nineties.
He's turned it around. He's turned the culture around now.
Granted the last couple of years haven't gone the way

(40:56):
we wanted, but we're set up very well for the future.
We got a hot young core back, we got a
hot young tight end, we got a hot young receiver,
we got a hot young running back. We are set
up to maybe make a move and improve ourselves where
we've not lose those games last couple of years. So
my other thing is I'm always just, you know, afraid
what you wish for. You know, you can want a

(41:16):
new coach. Who's to say that guy can't do what
stoops are has been able to do here. I think
Stoops does things here that nobody else could maybe other
coaches could achieve. He got ten wins twice in recent years.
When when that ever happened to UK football? So be
careful what you wish wish for. The grass isn't always
greener on the other side of the fence. It's green
right now and it's in bluegrass time.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
All right. Well you you timed it well to tell me, okay,
so quickly we got twenty seconds. How many of you
side with Frank? How many of you side with Ryan?
So Frank is up a lot of you didn't vote,
I will note. But Frank's going.

Speaker 6 (41:54):
Around too about how we have to get a loan
for Wi Fi.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
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