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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
Now here's Matt Jones.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Welcome everyone, It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Thursday, December the fourth.
I'm Matt Jones here at the KS Bar and Grill
on a cold day in Lexington, Kentucky. You can give
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Smith loveas called TJ. He'll make them pay. Look at
all these people on their phone. Everybody this is what
we all are now, We just mixed. You're the one.
You're the one sitting there and and not staring down
at your phone, including Mario, who I think is attached
physically to his phone. He is working though. We are
here on a like I said, kind of a cold day.
(01:20):
You can come out to the to KS bar see
us have a little food Today eleven o'clock. Will Stein, well,
my KSR debut will come on here very much. Looking
forward to talking to him. Ryan, Drew, Shannon, Nice to
see you guys.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
We got to start with first, how's the patient? How's
the Larry? Give us an update.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Yeah, he's doing okay. You know, thank you all for
the literally hundreds maybe thousands of people who've written something
kind saying you were thinking about him.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It was he is.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
He's still in the hospital in Knoxville, which is the
place they go because it's close to Middlesborough, uh and
is still recovering. So I still would ask that people
pray for him. He's he's got, you know, a little
bit of a road. It was an what they had
to He went in for one procedure and they unexpectedly
(02:11):
had to do a second one. And then you know,
my my mother lost a very close friend of hers
and that funeral was was during that period, so I
went because I wanted her to get to go to
that And anyway, so.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
You were Larry's nurse for a while.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah, I was like twenty four hours of caretaker. Not
going to say, I mean this may surprise people, Drew,
That's probably not my strength.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Did he like his gummy clusters for dinner?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You know, it was like it was it was good.
It was you know, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I don't think anybody likes hospitals, but I mean, for
being honest, you know, I had that experience of being
in one for for like ten days, and uh, that
was a difficult time for me. So I'm not a
huge hospital person. But you know this one is that
this one is nice and the people were very nice.
But yeah, it was it was you know, they didn't
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get they didn't get ESPN, so I didn't get I
didn't get see any of the game. Different But now
it sounds like I didn't miss anything, but I didn't
get to see like one minute of the game. I
was following it on my phone and I was just
getting frustrated. You know, I don't know if you've all
ever had to do that, you just you're like, all right,
when I hit refresh, hopefully the score will be better.
And then it was like fifty six to fifty and
(03:26):
I said, okay, here we go. And then I think
I refreshed it and we were down sixty one fifty
nine or something.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I just I forget it.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I think somebody had down in the Knoxville pulled a
little prank on you. That's the only room that didn't
get ESPN.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
It feels like the only thing they had, the only
thing that would come in clear with no static was
Fox News, which was like, all right, now, you just
tease me.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Come on, you can't. You can't do this to me.
But I got you know, I had a good time.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
This was kind of nice they brought this will be
a moment like I remember forever. They brought a guy
that the knox Full Symphony came and played in the
lobby of the hospital.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
First of all, how nice is that? That is very
for the patients.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
And one of the violin players came and he came
into Larry's room and played I want to talk about
making Larry happy.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So that was really that.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Was really I can only imagine how that light Larry.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
So that was really that was really nice.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Sure he wanted to get up and get his base out,
and little.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Think he would have if he could have.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
So so anyway, thank you all very much to everybody
that that reached out and and you know checked in.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I do really appreciate it now. I did. I was
driving back. I didn't get to get back for the
press conference. I was driving back and I.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Listened to it old school like, listen to it on
the on the radio, which you don't. I didn't know
you having people did that. It was on this station,
I said. I listened to it on the radio, and
I thought it sounded like I thought it sounded great
excitement in the room.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Will.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
It was interesting because I don't think like Will's not
a rehearse guy, So it felt like to me it
was kind of off the cup. We got natural answers
at times. I thought initially was a little nervous, which
I get in that situation. You were there, right, did
you go what did you think of it?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Very cool? A lot of people there, A lot of people.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It was broken into sections. There was like a fan section,
a former player section. Then you had the current team,
the guys that wanted to show up. Then you had
of course the media, then some rich people, but just
the whole Another was.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Some rich people section. Yeah, it's specifically.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I guess I should call him donors.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
If you're not rich, you cannot sit here.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Everyone there looked rich. I guess maybe I don't know
their incomes, but uh, great to turn out. I mean
they had pyro inside, shot some some goldberg sparks off
out out as will Stein came through, and then we've
had we've seen him kind of twice now. When he
came out at rough that was a huge pop, and
we saw his energy where he's fist pumping, and then
in this were getting to see a little bit of
his character, a little bit of a potty.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Mouth, which I like in my football coach. Yeah, so
I thought about that. I mean, very like, uh drops
to drop some curse words.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
But he wants his quarterback to be an mfor is
exactly what he said.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
He didn't say the words.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I didn't know he said. I didn't say the word.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well that's good, don't we want that? Right? Yeah, this is.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Football, you want a little bit of that.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
It was interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
First of all, let me tell you a few things
just in listening that I liked. Okay, I liked probably
the two answers I like the most answer one was
he basically said, Okay, it doesn't matter whether you all
like the new era of college football or not. It
is what it is, so we gotta go do it.
I've been preaching that. I've been preaching that forever.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I wrote.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Matt Jones will love that quote.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Because I don't. It doesn't matter what your opinion is.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Like, it really doesn't unless you're in Congress and you're
making the decision.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
It does not matter what your opinion is. You have
to take what the rule.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You gotta people gotta stop wanting and they gotta take
what the rules are and they gotta go win.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And the fact that he said that, Ryan, it was
literally music to my ears. I felt like I had
written it. I was so excited. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Basically, he basically said to them, like, well, like it
or not, you have to adapt and we are going
to be able to adapt it.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Day one.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I loved it how he got a little emotional talk
about his wife. But then the more he went on,
the more fired up he got. And you know, like
he said, he dropped a couple f bomb when he
met with the players yesterday afternoon. Got me fired up,
ready to go.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
But you need that answer, Okay, so you need that.
Then the second thing, and I think this is important.
I am really proud of how everyone involved has handled
this transition from Stoops to this. I'm proud of how
Stoops handled it. Stoops could have he could have taken
us to the mat for the thirty seven million dollars.
He ended up not doing it. I mean, he's getting
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the thirty seven million, He's not gonna be broke. But
I appreciate that he did it in a way that
that's good. I've heard I wrote about this on Ksport.
I've heard that actually he has a really as positive
as you can have a situation with this, with UK,
with Mitch, with everybody involved.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
And he gets it.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
And I think, I said, I think he's gonna stay
in Lexington. And then I love that Will Stein brought
you know, talked about him yesterday and talked about his
influence because it is there, right it is. I mean,
like this is a better job than it was when
Stoops got it because of Mark, and so I like
that Will said it. It just felt like rather than
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this being a break, that we've seen this sometimes where
it's a break and then I mean we saw it.
We've seen a lot actually just saw it in basketball,
where like it's awkward for a while, people don't know
what to do. It feels like that this has been
as good as it can be.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, they're doing a great job. A lot of new
coaches won't even mention the last coach at all to
avoid that. I mean, you look around the country. I
know we're not some other programs, but there's just other
chaos at other schools Penn State right now, where they're
shipping cookies back and forth. We just I mean, it
was outside of the outcome of the last couple of
games and it being nasty one to change, it's been
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pretty smooth. Even fans that were really upset with stoops
have turned that off because they got the move they
wanted and everybody's trying to shine a light on the
positive days.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, and I liked it.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
He said, look, we're gonna sco points and he let
me say something and this is not a criticism. Okay,
it's a little bit. Now, you got to back this up.
But he had some he had some like cocky lines.
What was the one he said that I texted you Ryan,
something like people.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Are gonna want to play coach with will Stein.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
People want to coach with will So he said everyone
in the country will want to coach with Will Stett.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
I loved it, and he did himself.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
In the third person.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Everyone will want to coach. I mean I loved it
like that does. But I thought, man, that is some confidence.
Everyone in the country will want to coach with will
Stein said.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
They're gonna light up the scoreboard. You know that's what
we want to hear, Man, just just that boost of
energy into the program. I want to go back what
you said about Stoops. I love the fact he gave
him his flowers and kind of said and I think
it was so good because it sounded so sincere. I
think Stein was one hundred percent sincere in his gratitude
to coach Stoops.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Trust direct quote was, trust me, everybody wants to work
for Will s Steck.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I like it. When Will Stein's money there, I love it.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I like the third person. He also he didn't say
teams by name, but he's He basically said, we're going
for the big teams in the SEC like, you know,
we have our tier that we want to be. He
was fair when he was looking to the top top.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
It was very adamant.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
We're gonna win here, but we're not settling for just winning.
I mean he set the expectations that for years people
have called this show and said, which is can we
go to the playoff? Can we go to the set championship?
And I've always been like, I don't know, that's not
what he said. Now all coaches say that kind of
but he said it like, that's what we're that's our expectation,
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not that's our goal.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
That's our expectation. I mean, that's setting it high. Do
you like that?
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Yes, that's what I want to hear. I want to
come in tiptoe an on him to come in knock
people over. So look, you said, man, you got to
you got to adapt, And he's a guy that's gonna
come in and be able to adapt to whatever offense
he has or he's players he had. He mentioned that, So.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Tell me, I'm gonna be a little bit jealous because
I would have loved to have seen this. Tell me
about the moment he came out at rough. I of
course didn't get.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
To see it.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
They did it very early, so the crowd was still
on fire. Score was low. He was the why they
did two Wise, they had a Tayshaun why in the
second half that's cursed half why for him? And I
compared it to the mena Field dunk because it was loud.
But then he started lifting his arms and it's like
we hit another level that I didn't know we could have,
Like Reparina already exploded when he walked on the court,
but when he started throwing his arms and y'all, let's
(11:28):
go it, somehow kicked in another gear.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
It was.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It was one of the cooler moments, especially non basketball
things that I've seen in a long time.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
In there.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Since I'm going to end up later in the show
being a little critical of this person, let's let me
be fair by being positive. Do we grade the transition
from Stoops to this new coach to will Stein in
the process for Mitch Barnhardt, do we grade it in a?
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I think you have to grade it in a. Somehow
he got stooped to agree to a better buyout. Somehow
he got the one guy who was the top of
all of our wish list and within what twenty four
to forty eight.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Houreen hours from when they announced Stoop's departured when they
announced Stein was the coach.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
So be critical if you want to, Mitch, but on
this situation, the way he handled it, it's a definite A.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I said it the day after the higher I have
plenty of Mitch complaints, but the fact that you went
out and got the name that everybody wanted and did
it quickly. Now I know, I think he kicked the
can a little bit down with another coach ended up
in Florida, but everybody loves Stein, so I'm not gonna
penalize him for that. I think you did a great
job of getting it done quickly, especially with everything has
to move so fast to stay and age and you
building teams and everything in the offseason.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
So there have been a couple whispers now that it's over,
that the initial conversations about at least gauging interest. And
again I'm not saying Mitch was part of it. I
bet he probably wasn't, but they but that they started
after the Tennessee game, that there were like some conversations
of Okay, what could happen? What would you think that
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makes sense to me, and I'm good with it because
it did lead. I mean, we kept from a circus.
I mean, Penn State has had a job for six weeks,
they still don't have a coach, So, like, I think
it helped.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I think that's when most of the fan base two
realize the change he needed to be made. Now he
won a lot of people back over with the Auburn win,
the Florida win, but that Tennessee game can kind of
starts the downhill slide where they're gonna make a change.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
And I'm glad, you know, I'd kind of talked myself
into while I still really like Brian Hartline.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But then I had some folks.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I had somebody I know really well who likes Brian
Hartline who said, listen, Matt, Brian Hartline is a good coach.
He's gonna have a lot of success. He was like,
but he's a lot. He was like, he's he's a lot,
just like he's well, they were like, he's a.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Little bit of a jerk, and I don't know how that.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Would work with Mitch. He's get and he said, so
he's a lot. This guy will see but does not
seem like that.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
And I like we're talking about how cocky and confident
he's been, but there's also been like humble moments where
yesterday he was talking about he looked out the window
of the plane and saw his police escort and he
couldn't believe how many police cards are there, and he's like,
I'm taking pictures, like I cannot believe this is me,
that I have a police escort.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So you have moments like that too that bring him
down to showing that he still has that excitement and
appreciation too.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
And I am a sucker for the whole Like I
was sitting there in the stadium and.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I wore the jersey. Yeah, you know, Jared Lritt, Like,
I'm a sucker for all that.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
You know, as Mark Pope is finding out, it doesn't
really matter if you lose a bunch, but at least
for now, it's really nice.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
The things he said made you convince you that he
was a Kentucky fan at heart. Talked about all those
games he went to it at the Old Commonwealth Stadium,
talked about he got starstruck at Reperena because there was
Tayshaun Prince and there goes that's dayshon Prince. You know,
he's one of the means.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
He's of the age though where he would have been
a kid and like Tayshawn Prince would have been like
that is tash Like literally Tayshawn Prince is probably his
Jamal Mashburn for me in terms of like whoa yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
He said he was like, why am I the way?
Make him the why now? They ended up doing both.
But he also listed several football memories. Uh, he did name.
Most of them were losses. He started with the Bluegrass Mirror.
That's I mean, we're Kentucky football fans. That's kind of
what our memories are. Even named the which Bowl? Was
it against Penn State? And was it Outback Peach?
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Yes, that one the Outback Bowl in Tampa?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, oh no, that was the was Music City? Music
City's where we lost to.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Or did he know I'm talking about the one in
the night he's been the I mean, he he named
a lot of our heartbreaks too, which which taught me
out he really is one of us.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Eight five eighty seven. Talk a little bit more about
the press conference.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Uh, I want to talk a second about what Mitch
said at the press conference, which was a testy thing,
and what about the Cutman, cutman.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Cut Cut's gonna cut no filter filter.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
That's next here O KSR working back in his Kentucky
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come on out and have lunch. By the way, we'll
talk a little bit about this in the second hour.
Big weekend coming up, high school sports, UK volleyball tonight,
UK basketball Friday against Gonzaga. Uh, we're gonna have all
of you coming from around the state. We'd love to
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have you here. We're gonna have the games. We'll have
the Gonzaga game, We'll have the volleyball games that starts tonight.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Who do they play tonight? It's like Hampton or something.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
For terriers.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Oh God does love a terrier, but not tonight. We're
number one seed. Well, well we'll get to all that.
That'll be kind of a second hour thing. One person says,
Matt Mitch doesn't get any credit for hiring Stein. A
train seal could have hired him. It was an easy hire. Yeah,
I know, I'm sorry. I don't buy that you have
to give you know, that was the same he didn't get.
People say, hey, well he didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Get credit for cow. That was Mike Pratt like.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
No, sometimes the easy pass is the right pass. So yeah,
I mean, and it's I mean, it's of course it's
a little bit of a risk. He's never coached before, right,
So yes, if it works, he gets credit, just like
he will get credit.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I mean, I know he went through six guys or whatever.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
He gets Pope. But if Pope wins here, he deserves credit.
You're gonna blame him if it doesn't work, So he
gets credit if it does.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
I give him a lot of credit, especially like if
you said he started on the process after the Tennessee game,
moved super quickly after the Louisville game, had him here,
you know, just a couple of days after we lost
that game in Louisville. I think he deserves a lot
of credit for how he handled this situation.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
One person rights, Matt will Stein has Billy R Sports confidence.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
He does a little bit, a little bit, a little bit.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Billy our Sports was more delusional in the early days.
I think Will has at least Will's accomplished some things.
Billy was coming in Cole talking about Dayton. Jennifer Lawrence,
who worked on the street, is Will might actually update.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
It back in the day, back in the day.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Nice, that's that's.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
That's my first question into the next news conference.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Well, we're gonna have you know you might remember, Yeah,
I mean he's on the show today. We're not gonna
ask him about it because like he's he's married. We're
not gonna we're not gonna ask his families. His families
might be on the call, so we're not we're not
gonna ask him that. That's why you don't get to
ask questions. Is is that answer right there? What I
would like to know is and then I'm being serious
(18:13):
about this seven seven two seven seven four five two
five four. We have him here for like fifteen or
twenty mines, what would you ask? Because I want to
ask him, like he answered a lot of the basics.
I'll probably do one like what's it like to be here?
But then we got I want specific things. If you
have things you want me to ask? Uh, you got
forty minutes here.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
To let me know what? What? What are you interested? Andrew?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I heard him tell Tom Leach that he's not gonna
call the plays like he'll be very involved, it won't
be you know, the full time play caller, which kind
of surprised me since me a little bit. I'm mentioned
to hear about that, and so.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Is the Again, I've been off a little bit a
couple of days, not totally plugged in.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Is Justin Burke gonna do that or do we know yet?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
We don't know official role, but yeah, he'll be added, uh,
but we don't know if he's the O C.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
There's reports out there that he will be those final.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Okay, I saw he was gonna be on the staff.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
The Texas San Antonio coach had a weird He was
asked about it and he was just like, Justin Burk's
barn will Stein?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
What did you know that someone?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
That's not exactly what he said, but that was he
was weird. He almost said it like that.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I had to some did some digging because it was
so weird. I guess there was some context. Fans were
upset with Justin Burke, and now the defenses they're playing
are tougher. He was trying to kind of be like,
lay off Justin Burke. He's not playing the same defense
as though we had when Stein was here, so the
numbers aren't.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
And then I guess they're bringing the director. So he
did say he was gonna have a GM. Yes, we
love that too.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Right, in this day and age of college athletics, you
absolutely have to have a GM in places.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Not according to Mitch Barnhart, he was very even though
we're hiring Mitch Bartnhardt is the only person who would
we would announce we're hiring a GM, and he would
defend not having a GM during the announcement. But regardless,
I'm glad we're doing that.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I might have been first reported by right here at
this this table. Oh, it was twenty four hours in advance.
And now that we're keeping up with the new song,
you two him.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Oh, just remember Drew R. Franklin.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Frank Franklin had the little scoop who was on the
plane with Will Sneine when he flew over here.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
One person says.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
One person says, Matt, does it mean anything that the
Crafts were not at the press conference?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Uh, I can say that they're.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
They were, they are out of town, and so I
don't read anything to the end of that. I believe
Will Stein set in the craft seats he did at
the basketball game, so I think that will be that
will be fine.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Yeah, if they're out of town, it doesn't no indication
they're not around supporting this move right now.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I mean I wasn't, you know, I mean just to
give me. I wasn't there either. It doesn't mean I
don't support it. Sometimes the life happens and people have
to do things. One person says, I love the experts
are saying how great of a hire Stein is.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
That makes me more confident. This does make me confident.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Normally I don't care what experts say, but like none
of us know. I mean, we've all probably seen Oregon play,
but we've not probably broken down their play calls, etc.
The fact that people who cover college football all say
this dude is really good. And some people, I mean
Todd McShay was like, this may be the best low
profile higher of the entire cycle.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
That can't help. But Drew make you feel good, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And I've seen some Oregon fan accounts tweet about how
I miss him stuff like that. I mean, anytime a
team is losing someone and they're not upset about it
and they're actually torn up, I mean that helps our case.
I've seen some national things ranking the HighRes so far
this offseason. It was almost unanimously number two behind Lane Kiffin,
which is a pretty big deal. So yeah, the response
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outside of Lexington and Big Blue Nation has been all positive.
It seems.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Did I I saw someone sit me a thing on
the text machine? Is there some recruit that was gonna
go to LSU that people rumor think might end up here?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
A receiver something? Or Am I dreaming that, Yeah, there's
a receiver. I'm drawing up like a Darby something like that.
There's been there's one. Watching the wrestler, he was like
the power yesterday.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
He's not very tall.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
But no, the personnel we're all having to learn on
the floor. They did a great job on National Signing Day,
keeping people, including a bunch of receivers. I don't know
who will will keep as a coach, but Washington, the
wide receivers coaches one to watch because he kept uh.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Well he was the wide receiver coach, was acting like
he was stayed.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Honestly, I don't know a lot of behind the scenes
over there, but the two practices I went to both times,
I was like, that dude is awesome because he is
in their grill and actually coaching. We saw what happened
with the freshman this season turningto stars about end of
the year and then he retained his son ease. So
I'm not Will's advisor, but if I were keeping anybody,
Washington would be high on the list.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I guess he said it. Signing day was also yesterday,
and they got twelve guys, so not like go ahead,
like I say not. Was he busy, you know, just adjusting.
He had to go recruit guys and get them to
sign yesterday.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
And he also has a game plan and he has
to do for organ here at some point too. We'll
take a break. Eighty seven. Take your calls, TJ. Smith,
personal injury attorney. Call TJ.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
He'll make them pay.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
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Speaker 3 (23:09):
Here's Matt Jones. By the way, some people with good questions.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
This is why I like to outsource some things I
hadn't thought about, for me to uh, for me to
ask during the durs our new coach. Yeah, during our
phone call that's at eleven o'clock. I'll probably do one
of those things where I push him as long as
I can before we have to take a break, because
I think I only get one second there if I'm
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seven seven to two seven seven four five two five
four one person rights Matt. George Clooney was on the
Kelsey podcast said he was a huge UK fan. I
feel like we don't hear him about him enough as
a UK fan.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I'm glad he did that. I know he is.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Hopkins is kind of friendly friendly with him, says he is,
but like, we don't hear about it a lot when.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Don't even come to a game. Would it be cool
to see George Clooney at a game?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, there's been other podcasts in the PA he'll mention
he's a fan, but I can't think of the time
he's popped up at a game.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I don't think so either, But online I've.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Seen him like wearing a Kentucky shirt playing basketball, But like,
I don't know if he still plays basketball.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
He's gonna be one in his mid fifties now probably so.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Oh he's older than that, is he?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah? Yeah, that'd be a good question for trivia one night.
How old is George Clinton?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
You want to take a guess, I'm gonna say you
look it up and tell me how Ryan does.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Okay, I want to say he's sixty four?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Sixty four? Wow? What do you think he is sixty one?
Sixty one? What is he? Shannon?
Speaker 5 (24:30):
He is sixty four?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Wow, look at Ryan getting it exactly right.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I stayed at Hollywood Express last night.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Day come up with a different joke like that. He
has said that joke so many times over the years.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Just a new joke.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Can you do it?
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I can do it.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I do what I was mentioned.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
One more thing that tickled me about the news conference yesterday, the.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Word like the fact he used the word to tickle.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Yeah, you know, all the pyro, the sparks, the fire
extinguishers shooting up in the air, We're all excited. Let's
go to this. Let's go and then Eli Capoluto get
to the talks about the Gattin New Gattin donation.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Let me say this, Okay, see, I actually disagree with you.
I actually thought Eli's I actually thought.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
It was pretty good. I thought it was way I thought, well,
here's way too much. I want to hear from my coach.
Damn it, get off the stage, the coach.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
That's odd.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
And again I was hearing it on the radio, but
actually thought it was a pretty good speech. And I
remember thinking, if I was Mitch Barnhardt, I would love
how nice.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Elo to he was. He was very complimentary, and you
just don't like listening to Eli speak. I just think
that's the wrong place and time for that situation. Man,
We're all all the the bands playing, the cheerleaders are
whooped you doing? And then we got talking about the
donation of the new Gatton business fil me.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Okay, you do it. I guess you'd make a fair point.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I actually thought he was okay, uh okay, So I
do have to forge I got to talk for a
second about the Mitch thing.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
So I have an overall frustration with Mitch Bardheart that
he does not talk to the public because he does not.
He only talks on media days and sort of what
you're getting at right there, Ryan media days about the
coach and like. So it's hard because you're sitting there,
everybody's in a good mood, and you don't want to
be harsh to the ad in that moment. But when
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else are they going to talk to him? He not
never do press conference. So he was asked about the
Nile situation, and I mean, I'm not saying this was
a shot at us or me, but I think it
probably was. And here were his comments when asked about
does Kentucky have enough in aile go ahead and play it.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
We're confident what we're doing John, and people have asked
that question nineteen different ways from all the stuff that's
been going on, and it's exhausting. You know enough enough
about have we got enough? We've got enough, and we're
working at it, just like everyone else is working at
We're no different. Everybody will Jami. They've got lear Field,
they've got lear Field. We've got Jami, they've got Learfield,
they've got Playfly. So this notion that we don't have
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enough is is ridiculous. We've got enough. We've got to
you resource it the right way. We've got to assess
talent the right way. We've got to acquire it the
right way, and we've got to make sure we're within
the boundaries and the rules. We're not going to break
the rules. That's flat out we're not doing that. All right,
we will do it the right way. We don't need to.
We don't need to do that. We're good enough at
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what we do. We've got good people. That's why we
heard this guy. He's really smart, really smart. He's put
together a really good game. Plan of how they're gonna
do it, and they've in the first day they've made
some really nice adjustments to what we're doing, and we'll
be fine. But that notion in all this nonsense has
been created variety of places that we don't have enough
or we're not working at it has got to stop.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
It's enough, all right. So I have a few few
thoughts here about it.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Number One, as an athletic director, you don't get to
tell people enough or it's nonsense. That can Your answer
cannot be just stop talking about it, stop asking me things.
Your job. You are the lead leader of a public institution.
You are not the CEO of a private company. You
are the leader of a public institution. When people have questions,
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and it was John Hale who asked it, who is
not exactly the most confrontational guy in the world, you
do not get to look at them and say enough nonsense.
You say you've been asked nineteen different ways. You've done
two press conferences in eight months. Do not tell me
you've been asked nineteen different ways. You don't go in public, okay,
you don't ever talk, So you have not.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Been asked nineteen different ways. Kentucky signed a.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Deal to do NIL is going to be the most
important thing in college sports for the next twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I don't think anybody would disagree with that.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Kentucky signed a deal with JMI to basically do their inile.
Unlike every other program in the country, nobody else has
a situation like ours. They've essentially turned their NILE over
to a private media company.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Now is that gonna work? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Maybe it will, maybe it won't. But there is not
one person, myself included, who's a lawyer knows sports and
those politics. And I don't even know how it works.
I don't even know what our setup is. You know why,
because they announced it via press release and then never
explained it.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
No one understands it.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
I called people at JAYMI the day it came out,
and they couldn't explain it to me.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
There's people at the university that.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Can't explain it, and to sit there and tell the
fans to basically shut up.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
We're fine, We're for fine.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Why did we win four games five games next year
and switch our coaches?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
All right?
Speaker 4 (29:46):
If you're gonna take the position that we don't owe
you all in explanation, well I don't like that. You're
the head of a public school, you do owe people
in explanation. You've now taken the athletics department and basically
made it private, and I think, so you don't have
to release stuff to the public. So I'm never gonna
accept we don't owe you an explanation. But if you're
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gonna say that, then you better win right, and you
better get recruits, and you better not have rumors of
Kentucky can't get.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Innil deals done for these guys.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
So the idea that you can just stand up there
and say it's nonsense, it's not nonsense just cause you
say it is, rather than get mad, why don't you
explain what we're doing. There's not one person who can
explain what we're doing, not one who's negotiating the nil deals.
How much money are we given to football? How much
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money are we given to basketball? Mark Stoops has basically
acknowledged he literally said pony up, which wasn't which I
think he shouldn't have done, but was an acknowledgment that
at a time we didn't have enough money.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
So I'm just supposed to.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Believe Mitch say we've got enough cause I say, well, Okay,
fair enough, then why haven't we won? So I hated
that answer. I think it distracts from a good day.
And I would say anytime a leader is asked a
question and their answer is to just get mad at
the fact the question is answered, or excuse me is asked,
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that's on the leader. That's not on the people asking
the question. If the media and the fans do not
understand what is happening at UK, that's because you haven't
told them, and you haven't talked about it, and you
haven't you've not made it to where anyone gets it,
and that's not our fault, that's your fault.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Well done, Frank Jones.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
I'm just that really frustrates me because, you know, Drew,
it's not nonsense to ask that.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
No other school in the country is doing it like this.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yes, these other schools have media deals, but they're still
letting their private collectives do stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
We're the only one that's taking it in house.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
And I don't know, man, since we've done that, we
haven't signed a basketball recruit yet, and I'm I'm nervous
about it. Will it work? It might, But I don't
think it's.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Crazy to ask about it.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Do you know, and I was smiling. That's my Mitch there.
He is talking to him like their five year old.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
He talks to us. It's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Any press conference I've been to, which is bi annual,
he talks to the media like their kids. And I
can't believe you're questioning me. This goes back to the
cow Stoops thing. He called a press conference and set
with Stoops and scolded us, saying we're making up a story.
And I'm thinking you emailed me and told me to
be here, and now you're yelling at us. Anytime he
gets challenged on anything, and this wasn't even challenged. It
was a very basic question, and he lost it, and
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he was pretty unhinged. The question before that, he got
on some rent about people not appreciating Mark Stoops, and
he's pounding the desk and everyone's looking around like but
also people are looking around It's like, who are you
fighting with because the people in front of you, no
one has done the things that you're arguing about right now.
It was like an unhinged press conference, and I see
why he doesn't get out there because he cannot handle it.
He cannot handle any criticism. And this wasn't criticism. This
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was John Hale from the Herald Leader asking if our
money situation is good enough for the coach you just hired,
and Mitch, you could see it like a switch flipped.
He could not handle it, and he was talking to
everyone like at their three year old just spilled something
in the house.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
He acts like he has acted, and he's not always
like this. Mitch is a good guy. I think he's
a wonderful man privately, but he has this issue where
he acts like the media and to some extent the
fans work for him that he can just talk to
you like you're his employee.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
How dare you ask.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Me a very normal question?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
It's a very normal question.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I cannot imagine what it would be like for him
if he was at a place where they did ask
really hard quot. Can you imagine if Jerry Tipton was
still here and he asked a quot question? What what
would happen in that scenario?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Watching that, I was getting flashbacks And when I asked
him about the checkerboards.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Anderboards he has.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
He's very much an old school Like I said it,
that's enough.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I feel like my grandpa was yelling at everybody.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Now I've had to say to people at UK a
lot because they all kind of reflect him.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I've said to them, I want to remind you, I
don't work for you. By the way. It's a little thing.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
But let me just give you a final example of
why UK sports is behind in this regard. There was
a press conference yesterday introducing the new coach. Question for you,
if you had a press conference introducing a new coach,
what's the point.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Of doing it publicity?
Speaker 4 (34:53):
What if I told you then, unless you were Jami,
you couldn't broadcast the press conference. They didn't let any
of the TV stations broadcast it. The only one that
could do it on radio was the official one, which
is ours. But when Louisville does a press conference, they'll
let anybody.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
The whole point is to get it out.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
There press, that's the whole point. The point is publicity.
So they had an official press conference where you could
only show it live if you were their official station,
and guess what, the stream didn't work.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Nope.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
That is ridiculous And it's the only let me tell something,
it's the only school in the country that does that.
We are the only school that would call a press
You remember when Cale got hired, that press conference was everywhere,
and when we get hired, it's on the JMI stream
and then it doesn't work. And by the way, I'll
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note on the radio they finished it early and they
cut off the last ten minutes of his talking so
we could hear analysis instead of the guy talking.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
It's ridiculous sounds.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
It's ridiculous, and I hope that this kind of thing changes.
But that answer summarized to me why I'm worried now,
Not so much about the football program. I'm excited about
I'm looking forward to talking to this new coach, but
why I'm still worried about the athletics department. That answer,
to me was the symbol as to why we'll take
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a break. Right back to KSR. Welcome back, Teke you
Sports Radio A five nine two eight twenty two eighty seven.
A couple of people are saying that the press conference
was on WLAX in Lexington, which it was. That's the
official TV station, So again like that you only get
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them through the official TV stations, which is which is
the same as it being on our station. Look from
a selfish respect, it's great that it's only on the
station you're listening to me on now, but from a
program perspective that doesn't help. And again I'll note, if
it's such a great idea, why does no other.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
School in the country do it?
Speaker 4 (37:05):
We finish four and eight and five and seven, and
then I get told that what we're doing is brilliant.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I think if you know there are people who say
to me, why don't you just trust what he's going
to do when we're going ten and two, then Ryan,
I'll trust and not ask questions.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
He is the leader of one of the most powerful
entities in our state and here trying to get us
to support it and be behind it. Well, then explain
it to us. That is your kuinding in that your
duty is the leader to explain why you want us
to support your new entity that you've in.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
When you surround yourself with only people who agree with you,
or you only allow entities that agree with you to
ask you questions, you become separated from the rest of
the world. And we see it in politics and we
have seen it in sports. That's why I give so
much credit to people but like Mark Stoops, who would
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come on here after they were critical when I was
critical of cal what did he do stopped coming on.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I'm gonna ask Mitch to come on. I hope he will.
But the more criticism he's gotten over the years, they've retreated.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
And I love Tom Leach, but Tom Leech is not
gonna ask those questions because he's paid by them. But
when is the and then the very few times you
get a question from somebody who's not paid by UK, you.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Get that reaction. That's a problem. It just is.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
And I'm not gonna let it ruin day because Will's
gonna be awesome here in a few minutes.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
But it just is.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Leave a side that he doesn't know how to handle
it and was clearly unhinged and shaking. That was an
opportunity to get more. Like he's saying it up like
we're good, stop asking coal miner for fifty blocks. If
we're so good, that should have been We're in a
great spot, but we can always do better. For will Stein,
we got to feed these studs. I like where we're at,
but we need to keep this energy going. No, he said,
it's enough, all right, so we're good. Cut it off.
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Nobody needs to donate with.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Ever, that's all.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
You gotta figure out that was a chance to ask
for more and say we're going to do better. Who
wants to anything, just be like, I'm good, we're done here,
no more, tell us you need more, say you're working
to get more. But it was like, no, everybody, shut up,
We're fine.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
That's a really good point. I hadn't thought about that.
Who's next, shit, Dave, Dave, go ahead, Dave.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
He could take you.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
Prayers for your day's speedy recovery.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Matt, thank you very much, sir.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
I know it's I know it's a football centric, David.
I got a basketball question real quick. Unless I'm missing things.
There's literally nothing being said about the injuries about j Q,
about low Diabat, and there's there's work going around that.
The Diabate thing is that there's some disciplinary issues involved.
I hope you've heard something, and.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Georgie, yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
I have not heard that it's disciplinary beyond just people speculating.
I think it's an injury. We saw him go down,
you know, so, I mean, I it's tough. I mean
I I will go into the Carolina game at some point.
I mean, you can't lose that game and then you did.
We're just not very good and that stinks. But we're
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just not very good, I know.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
And with the so much excitement and the National Championship
expectations to just be oh and three at this point,
none of us considered oh and three. Some people you
I can't remember who picked what. Some people probably had
us losing the Louisville maybe losing Owen, but oh and
three and getting blown out in two of them and
having a ten minute scoring drought in the other. It
just doesn't get you excited for We're.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Just not very good.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
And I actually had listened to a podcast on my
drive to Knoxville where the guy talked about how the
you know, in the NBA, they're always looking for the
next thing, and the next thing in the NBA right
now in offense is offensive rebounds. Basically, if you look
at the offensive rebound rate in the NBA, it has
exploded this year. Teams like the team that would have
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led the league in offensive rebounds five years ago is
now like nineteenth like, offensive rebounds has become the focus
and people crash the boards. I thought, I listened to
that and I go, oh, that's interesting. I'm gonna I
want to look at some of that stats. I want
to see how it applies to college basketball. And then
I saw that we gave up twenty two second chance
points to North Carolina.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
They had twenty offensive rebounds nor Caroline, but.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Basically they were like all this.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Essentially what the NBA coaches realized is with so many
threes being shot, what do threes lead to long rebounds?
And the thing to exploit is now you have a
better chance of getting offensive rebounds because if you position
yourself right, the rebounds coming out longer, better chance to
come to the offensive player. And the Houston Rockets specifically
have decided offensive rebounding would be their thing and it's
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worked amazingly well. And I was like, man, that's really interesting.
I wonder if we'll start thinking about that in college.
And then twenty two offense twenty two second chance points
that night to North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I was like, maybe Hubert Davis listen to that podcast.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Poor Malechiva doing everything he could, but man, they were
just they all crashed the glass. That big guy they've got,
just a big, strong button post player that got every offensive.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Rebound they weren't. He likes it all right.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
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see you guys.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
We got to start with first, how's the patient? How's
the Larry? Give us an update.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Yeah, he's doing okay. You know, thank you all for
the literally hundreds maybe thousands of people who've written something
kind saying you were thinking about him.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It was he is.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
He's still in the hospital in Knoxville, which is the
place they go because it's close to Middlesborough, uh and
is still recovering. So I still would ask that people
pray for him. He's he's got, you know, a little
bit of a road. It was an what they had
to He went in for one procedure and they unexpectedly
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had to do a second one. And then you know,
my my mother lost a very close friend of hers
and that funeral was was during that period, so I
went because I wanted her to get to go to
that And anyway, so.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
You were Larry's nurse for a while.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah, I was like twenty four hours of caretaker. Not
going to say, I mean this may surprise people, Drew,
That's probably not my strength.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Did he like his gummy clusters for dinner?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You know, it was like it was it was good.
It was you know, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I don't think anybody likes hospitals, but I mean, for
being honest, you know, I had that experience of being
in one for for like ten days, and uh, that
was a difficult time for me. So I'm not a
huge hospital person. But you know this one is that
this one is nice and the people were very nice.
But yeah, it was it was you know, they didn't
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get they didn't get ESPN, so I didn't get I
didn't get see any of the game. Different But now
it sounds like I didn't miss anything, but I didn't
get to see like one minute of the game. I
was following it on my phone and I was just
getting frustrated. You know, I don't know if you've all
ever had to do that, you just you're like, all right,
when I hit refresh, hopefully the score will be better.
And then it was like fifty six to fifty and
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I said, okay, here we go. And then I think
I refreshed it and we were down sixty one fifty
nine or something.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I just I forget it.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I think somebody had down in the Knoxville pulled a
little prank on you. That's the only room that didn't
get ESPN.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
It feels like the only thing they had, the only
thing that would come in clear with no static was
Fox News, which was like, all right, now, you just
tease me.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Come on, you can't. You can't do this to me.
But I got you know, I had a good time.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
This was kind of nice they brought this will be
a moment like I remember forever. They brought a guy
that the knox Full Symphony came and played in the
lobby of the hospital.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
First of all, how nice is that? That is very
for the patients.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
And one of the violin players came and he came
into Larry's room and played I want to talk about
making Larry happy.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So that was really that.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Was really I can only imagine how that light Larry.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
So that was really that was really nice.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Sure he wanted to get up and get his base out,
and little.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Think he would have if he could have.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
So so anyway, thank you all very much to everybody
that that reached out and and you know checked in.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I do really appreciate it now. I did. I was
driving back. I didn't get to get back for the
press conference. I was driving back and I.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Listened to it old school like, listen to it on
the on the radio, which you don't. I didn't know
you having people did that. It was on this station,
I said. I listened to it on the radio, and
I thought it sounded like I thought it sounded great
excitement in the room.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Will.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
It was interesting because I don't think like Will's not
a rehearse guy, So it felt like to me it
was kind of off the cup. We got natural answers
at times. I thought initially was a little nervous, which
I get in that situation. You were there, right, did
you go what did you think of it?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Very cool? A lot of people there, A lot of people.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It was broken into sections. There was like a fan section,
a former player section. Then you had the current team,
the guys that wanted to show up. Then you had
of course the media, then some rich people, but just
the whole Another was.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Some rich people section. Yeah, it's specifically.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I guess I should call him donors.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
If you're not rich, you cannot sit here.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Everyone there looked rich. I guess maybe I don't know
their incomes, but uh, great to turn out. I mean
they had pyro inside, shot some some goldberg sparks off
out out as will Stein came through, and then we've
had we've seen him kind of twice now. When he
came out at rough that was a huge pop, and
we saw his energy where he's fist pumping, and then
in this were getting to see a little bit of
his character, a little bit of a potty.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Mouth, which I like in my football coach. Yeah, so
I thought about that. I mean, very like, uh drops
to drop some curse words.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
But he wants his quarterback to be an mfor is
exactly what he said.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
He didn't say the words.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I didn't know he said. I didn't say the word.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well that's good, don't we want that? Right? Yeah, this is.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Football, you want a little bit of that.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
It was interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
First of all, let me tell you a few things
just in listening that I liked. Okay, I liked probably
the two answers I like the most answer one was
he basically said, Okay, it doesn't matter whether you all
like the new era of college football or not. It
is what it is, so we gotta go do it.
I've been preaching that. I've been preaching that forever.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I wrote.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Matt Jones will love that quote.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Because I don't. It doesn't matter what your opinion is.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Like, it really doesn't unless you're in Congress and you're
making the decision.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
It does not matter what your opinion is. You have
to take what the rule.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You gotta people gotta stop wanting and they gotta take
what the rules are and they gotta go win.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And the fact that he said that, Ryan, it was
literally music to my ears. I felt like I had
written it. I was so excited. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Basically, he basically said to them, like, well, like it
or not, you have to adapt and we are going
to be able to adapt it.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Day one.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I loved it how he got a little emotional talk
about his wife. But then the more he went on,
the more fired up he got. And you know, like
he said, he dropped a couple f bomb when he
met with the players yesterday afternoon. Got me fired up,
ready to go.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
But you need that answer, Okay, so you need that.
Then the second thing, and I think this is important.
I am really proud of how everyone involved has handled
this transition from Stoops to this. I'm proud of how
Stoops handled it. Stoops could have he could have taken
us to the mat for the thirty seven million dollars.
He ended up not doing it. I mean, he's getting
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the thirty seven million, He's not gonna be broke. But
I appreciate that he did it in a way that
that's good. I've heard I wrote about this on Ksport.
I've heard that actually he has a really as positive
as you can have a situation with this, with UK,
with Mitch, with everybody involved.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
And he gets it.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
And I think, I said, I think he's gonna stay
in Lexington. And then I love that Will Stein brought
you know, talked about him yesterday and talked about his
influence because it is there, right it is. I mean,
like this is a better job than it was when
Stoops got it because of Mark, and so I like
that Will said it. It just felt like rather than
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this being a break, that we've seen this sometimes where
it's a break and then I mean we saw it.
We've seen a lot actually just saw it in basketball,
where like it's awkward for a while, people don't know
what to do. It feels like that this has been
as good as it can be.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, they're doing a great job. A lot of new
coaches won't even mention the last coach at all to
avoid that. I mean, you look around the country. I
know we're not some other programs, but there's just other
chaos at other schools Penn State right now, where they're
shipping cookies back and forth. We just I mean, it
was outside of the outcome of the last couple of
games and it being nasty one to change, it's been
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pretty smooth. Even fans that were really upset with stoops
have turned that off because they got the move they
wanted and everybody's trying to shine a light on the
positive days.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, and I liked it.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
He said, look, we're gonna sco points and he let
me say something and this is not a criticism. Okay,
it's a little bit. Now, you got to back this up.
But he had some he had some like cocky lines.
What was the one he said that I texted you Ryan,
something like people.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Are gonna want to play coach with will Stein.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
People want to coach with will So he said everyone
in the country will want to coach with Will Stett.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
I loved it, and he did himself.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
In the third person.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Everyone will want to coach. I mean I loved it
like that does. But I thought, man, that is some confidence.
Everyone in the country will want to coach with will
Stein said.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
They're gonna light up the scoreboard. You know that's what
we want to hear, Man, just just that boost of
energy into the program. I want to go back what
you said about Stoops. I love the fact he gave
him his flowers and kind of said and I think
it was so good because it sounded so sincere. I
think Stein was one hundred percent sincere in his gratitude
to coach Stoops.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Trust direct quote was, trust me, everybody wants to work
for Will s Steck.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I like it. When Will Stein's money there, I love it.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I like the third person. He also he didn't say
teams by name, but he's He basically said, we're going
for the big teams in the SEC like, you know,
we have our tier that we want to be. He
was fair when he was looking to the top top.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
It was very adamant.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
We're gonna win here, but we're not settling for just winning.
I mean he set the expectations that for years people
have called this show and said, which is can we
go to the playoff? Can we go to the set championship?
And I've always been like, I don't know, that's not
what he said. Now all coaches say that kind of
but he said it like, that's what we're that's our expectation,
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not that's our goal.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
That's our expectation. I mean, that's setting it high. Do
you like that?
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Yes, that's what I want to hear. I want to
come in tiptoe an on him to come in knock
people over. So look, you said, man, you got to
you got to adapt, And he's a guy that's gonna
come in and be able to adapt to whatever offense
he has or he's players he had. He mentioned that, So.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Tell me, I'm gonna be a little bit jealous because
I would have loved to have seen this. Tell me
about the moment he came out at rough. I of
course didn't get.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
To see it.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
They did it very early, so the crowd was still
on fire. Score was low. He was the why they
did two Wise, they had a Tayshaun why in the
second half that's cursed half why for him? And I
compared it to the mena Field dunk because it was loud.
But then he started lifting his arms and it's like
we hit another level that I didn't know we could have,
Like Reparina already exploded when he walked on the court,
but when he started throwing his arms and y'all, let's
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go it, somehow kicked in another gear.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
It was.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It was one of the cooler moments, especially non basketball
things that I've seen in a long time.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
In there.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Since I'm going to end up later in the show
being a little critical of this person, let's let me
be fair by being positive. Do we grade the transition
from Stoops to this new coach to will Stein in
the process for Mitch Barnhardt, do we grade it in a?
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I think you have to grade it in a. Somehow
he got stooped to agree to a better buyout. Somehow
he got the one guy who was the top of
all of our wish list and within what twenty four
to forty eight.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Houreen hours from when they announced Stoop's departured when they
announced Stein was the coach.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
So be critical if you want to, Mitch, but on
this situation, the way he handled it, it's a definite A.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I said it the day after the higher I have
plenty of Mitch complaints, but the fact that you went
out and got the name that everybody wanted and did
it quickly. Now I know, I think he kicked the
can a little bit down with another coach ended up
in Florida, but everybody loves Stein, so I'm not gonna
penalize him for that. I think you did a great
job of getting it done quickly, especially with everything has
to move so fast to stay and age and you
building teams and everything in the offseason.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
So there have been a couple whispers now that it's over,
that the initial conversations about at least gauging interest. And
again I'm not saying Mitch was part of it. I
bet he probably wasn't, but they but that they started
after the Tennessee game, that there were like some conversations
of Okay, what could happen? What would you think that
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makes sense to me, and I'm good with it because
it did lead. I mean, we kept from a circus.
I mean, Penn State has had a job for six weeks,
they still don't have a coach, So, like, I think
it helped.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I think that's when most of the fan base two
realize the change he needed to be made. Now he
won a lot of people back over with the Auburn win,
the Florida win, but that Tennessee game can kind of
starts the downhill slide where they're gonna make a change.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
And I'm glad, you know, I'd kind of talked myself
into while I still really like Brian Hartline.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But then I had some folks.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I had somebody I know really well who likes Brian
Hartline who said, listen, Matt, Brian Hartline is a good coach.
He's gonna have a lot of success. He was like,
but he's a lot. He was like, he's he's a lot,
just like he's well, they were like, he's a.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Little bit of a jerk, and I don't know how that.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Would work with Mitch. He's get and he said, so
he's a lot. This guy will see but does not
seem like that.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
And I like we're talking about how cocky and confident
he's been, but there's also been like humble moments where
yesterday he was talking about he looked out the window
of the plane and saw his police escort and he
couldn't believe how many police cards are there, and he's like,
I'm taking pictures, like I cannot believe this is me,
that I have a police escort.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So you have moments like that too that bring him
down to showing that he still has that excitement and
appreciation too.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
And I am a sucker for the whole Like I
was sitting there in the stadium and.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I wore the jersey. Yeah, you know, Jared Lritt, Like,
I'm a sucker for all that.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
You know, as Mark Pope is finding out, it doesn't
really matter if you lose a bunch, but at least
for now, it's really nice.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
The things he said made you convince you that he
was a Kentucky fan at heart. Talked about all those
games he went to it at the Old Commonwealth Stadium,
talked about he got starstruck at Reperena because there was
Tayshaun Prince and there goes that's dayshon Prince. You know,
he's one of the means.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
He's of the age though where he would have been
a kid and like Tayshawn Prince would have been like
that is tash Like literally Tayshawn Prince is probably his
Jamal Mashburn for me in terms of like whoa yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
He said he was like, why am I the way?
Make him the why now? They ended up doing both.
But he also listed several football memories. Uh, he did name.
Most of them were losses. He started with the Bluegrass Mirror.
That's I mean, we're Kentucky football fans. That's kind of
what our memories are. Even named the which Bowl? Was
it against Penn State? And was it Outback Peach?
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Yes, that one the Outback Bowl in Tampa?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, oh no, that was the was Music City? Music
City's where we lost to.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Or did he know I'm talking about the one in
the night he's been the I mean, he he named
a lot of our heartbreaks too, which which taught me
out he really is one of us.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Eight five eighty seven. Talk a little bit more about
the press conference.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Uh, I want to talk a second about what Mitch
said at the press conference, which was a testy thing,
and what about the Cutman, cutman.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Cut Cut's gonna cut no filter filter.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
That's next here O KSR working back in his Kentucky
Sports radio. If I'm nine, two eight, twenty two eighty seven,
come on out and have lunch. By the way, we'll
talk a little bit about this in the second hour.
Big weekend coming up, high school sports, UK volleyball tonight,
UK basketball Friday against Gonzaga. Uh, we're gonna have all
of you coming from around the state. We'd love to
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have you here. We're gonna have the games. We'll have
the Gonzaga game, We'll have the volleyball games that starts tonight.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Who do they play tonight? It's like Hampton or something.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
For terriers.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Oh God does love a terrier, but not tonight. We're
number one seed. Well, well we'll get to all that.
That'll be kind of a second hour thing. One person says,
Matt Mitch doesn't get any credit for hiring Stein. A
train seal could have hired him. It was an easy hire. Yeah,
I know, I'm sorry. I don't buy that you have
to give you know, that was the same he didn't get.
People say, hey, well he didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Get credit for cow. That was Mike Pratt like.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
No, sometimes the easy pass is the right pass. So yeah,
I mean, and it's I mean, it's of course it's
a little bit of a risk. He's never coached before, right,
So yes, if it works, he gets credit, just like
he will get credit.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I mean, I know he went through six guys or whatever.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
He gets Pope. But if Pope wins here, he deserves credit.
You're gonna blame him if it doesn't work, So he
gets credit if it does.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
I give him a lot of credit, especially like if
you said he started on the process after the Tennessee game,
moved super quickly after the Louisville game, had him here,
you know, just a couple of days after we lost
that game in Louisville. I think he deserves a lot
of credit for how he handled this situation.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
One person rights, Matt will Stein has Billy R Sports confidence.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
He does a little bit, a little bit, a little bit.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Billy our Sports was more delusional in the early days.
I think Will has at least Will's accomplished some things.
Billy was coming in Cole talking about Dayton. Jennifer Lawrence,
who worked on the street, is Will might actually update.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
It back in the day, back in the day.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Nice, that's that's.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
That's my first question into the next news conference.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Well, we're gonna have you know you might remember, Yeah,
I mean he's on the show today. We're not gonna
ask him about it because like he's he's married. We're
not gonna we're not gonna ask his families. His families
might be on the call, so we're not we're not
gonna ask him that. That's why you don't get to
ask questions. Is is that answer right there? What I
would like to know is and then I'm being serious
(18:13):
about this seven seven two seven seven four five two
five four. We have him here for like fifteen or
twenty mines, what would you ask? Because I want to
ask him, like he answered a lot of the basics.
I'll probably do one like what's it like to be here?
But then we got I want specific things. If you
have things you want me to ask? Uh, you got
forty minutes here.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
To let me know what? What? What are you interested? Andrew?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I heard him tell Tom Leach that he's not gonna
call the plays like he'll be very involved, it won't
be you know, the full time play caller, which kind
of surprised me since me a little bit. I'm mentioned
to hear about that, and so.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Is the Again, I've been off a little bit a
couple of days, not totally plugged in.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Is Justin Burke gonna do that or do we know yet?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
We don't know official role, but yeah, he'll be added, uh,
but we don't know if he's the O C.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
There's reports out there that he will be those final.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Okay, I saw he was gonna be on the staff.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
The Texas San Antonio coach had a weird He was
asked about it and he was just like, Justin Burk's
barn will Stein?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
What did you know that someone?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
That's not exactly what he said, but that was he
was weird. He almost said it like that.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I had to some did some digging because it was
so weird. I guess there was some context. Fans were
upset with Justin Burke, and now the defenses they're playing
are tougher. He was trying to kind of be like,
lay off Justin Burke. He's not playing the same defense
as though we had when Stein was here, so the
numbers aren't.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
And then I guess they're bringing the director. So he
did say he was gonna have a GM. Yes, we
love that too.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Right, in this day and age of college athletics, you
absolutely have to have a GM in places.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Not according to Mitch Barnhart, he was very even though
we're hiring Mitch Bartnhardt is the only person who would
we would announce we're hiring a GM, and he would
defend not having a GM during the announcement. But regardless,
I'm glad we're doing that.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I might have been first reported by right here at
this this table. Oh, it was twenty four hours in advance.
And now that we're keeping up with the new song,
you two him.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Oh, just remember Drew R. Franklin.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Frank Franklin had the little scoop who was on the
plane with Will Sneine when he flew over here.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
One person says.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
One person says, Matt, does it mean anything that the
Crafts were not at the press conference?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Uh, I can say that they're.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
They were, they are out of town, and so I
don't read anything to the end of that. I believe
Will Stein set in the craft seats he did at
the basketball game, so I think that will be that
will be fine.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Yeah, if they're out of town, it doesn't no indication
they're not around supporting this move right now.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I mean I wasn't, you know, I mean just to
give me. I wasn't there either. It doesn't mean I
don't support it. Sometimes the life happens and people have
to do things. One person says, I love the experts
are saying how great of a hire Stein is.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
That makes me more confident. This does make me confident.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Normally I don't care what experts say, but like none
of us know. I mean, we've all probably seen Oregon play,
but we've not probably broken down their play calls, etc.
The fact that people who cover college football all say
this dude is really good. And some people, I mean
Todd McShay was like, this may be the best low
profile higher of the entire cycle.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
That can't help. But Drew make you feel good, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And I've seen some Oregon fan accounts tweet about how
I miss him stuff like that. I mean, anytime a
team is losing someone and they're not upset about it
and they're actually torn up, I mean that helps our case.
I've seen some national things ranking the HighRes so far
this offseason. It was almost unanimously number two behind Lane Kiffin,
which is a pretty big deal. So yeah, the response
(21:43):
outside of Lexington and Big Blue Nation has been all positive.
It seems.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Did I I saw someone sit me a thing on
the text machine? Is there some recruit that was gonna
go to LSU that people rumor think might end up here?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
A receiver something? Or Am I dreaming that, Yeah, there's
a receiver. I'm drawing up like a Darby something like that.
There's been there's one. Watching the wrestler, he was like
the power yesterday.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
He's not very tall.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
But no, the personnel we're all having to learn on
the floor. They did a great job on National Signing Day,
keeping people, including a bunch of receivers. I don't know
who will will keep as a coach, but Washington, the
wide receivers coaches one to watch because he kept uh.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Well he was the wide receiver coach, was acting like
he was stayed.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Honestly, I don't know a lot of behind the scenes
over there, but the two practices I went to both times,
I was like, that dude is awesome because he is
in their grill and actually coaching. We saw what happened
with the freshman this season turningto stars about end of
the year and then he retained his son ease. So
I'm not Will's advisor, but if I were keeping anybody,
Washington would be high on the list.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I guess he said it. Signing day was also yesterday,
and they got twelve guys, so not like go ahead,
like I say not. Was he busy, you know, just adjusting.
He had to go recruit guys and get them to
sign yesterday.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
And he also has a game plan and he has
to do for organ here at some point too. We'll
take a break. Eighty seven. Take your calls, TJ. Smith,
personal injury attorney. Call TJ.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
He'll make them pay.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
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Speaker 3 (23:09):
Here's Matt Jones. By the way, some people with good questions.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
This is why I like to outsource some things I
hadn't thought about, for me to uh, for me to
ask during the durs our new coach. Yeah, during our
phone call that's at eleven o'clock. I'll probably do one
of those things where I push him as long as
I can before we have to take a break, because
I think I only get one second there if I'm
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seven seven to two seven seven four five two five
four one person rights Matt. George Clooney was on the
Kelsey podcast said he was a huge UK fan. I
feel like we don't hear him about him enough as
a UK fan.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I'm glad he did that. I know he is.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Hopkins is kind of friendly friendly with him, says he is,
but like, we don't hear about it a lot when.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Don't even come to a game. Would it be cool
to see George Clooney at a game?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, there's been other podcasts in the PA he'll mention
he's a fan, but I can't think of the time
he's popped up at a game.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I don't think so either, But online I've.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Seen him like wearing a Kentucky shirt playing basketball, But like,
I don't know if he still plays basketball.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
He's gonna be one in his mid fifties now probably so.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Oh he's older than that, is he?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah? Yeah, that'd be a good question for trivia one night.
How old is George Clinton?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
You want to take a guess, I'm gonna say you
look it up and tell me how Ryan does.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Okay, I want to say he's sixty four?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Sixty four? Wow? What do you think he is sixty one?
Sixty one? What is he? Shannon?
Speaker 5 (24:30):
He is sixty four?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Wow, look at Ryan getting it exactly right.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I stayed at Hollywood Express last night.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Day come up with a different joke like that. He
has said that joke so many times over the years.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Just a new joke.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Can you do it?
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I can do it.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I do what I was mentioned.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
One more thing that tickled me about the news conference yesterday, the.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Word like the fact he used the word to tickle.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Yeah, you know, all the pyro, the sparks, the fire
extinguishers shooting up in the air, We're all excited. Let's
go to this. Let's go and then Eli Capoluto get
to the talks about the Gattin New Gattin donation.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Let me say this, Okay, see, I actually disagree with you.
I actually thought Eli's I actually thought.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
It was pretty good. I thought it was way I thought, well,
here's way too much. I want to hear from my coach.
Damn it, get off the stage, the coach.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
That's odd.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
And again I was hearing it on the radio, but
actually thought it was a pretty good speech. And I
remember thinking, if I was Mitch Barnhardt, I would love
how nice.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Elo to he was. He was very complimentary, and you
just don't like listening to Eli speak. I just think
that's the wrong place and time for that situation. Man,
We're all all the the bands playing, the cheerleaders are
whooped you doing? And then we got talking about the
donation of the new Gatton business fil me.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Okay, you do it. I guess you'd make a fair point.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I actually thought he was okay, uh okay, So I
do have to forge I got to talk for a
second about the Mitch thing.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
So I have an overall frustration with Mitch Bardheart that
he does not talk to the public because he does not.
He only talks on media days and sort of what
you're getting at right there, Ryan media days about the
coach and like. So it's hard because you're sitting there,
everybody's in a good mood, and you don't want to
be harsh to the ad in that moment. But when
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else are they going to talk to him? He not
never do press conference. So he was asked about the
Nile situation, and I mean, I'm not saying this was
a shot at us or me, but I think it
probably was. And here were his comments when asked about
does Kentucky have enough in aile go ahead and play it.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
We're confident what we're doing John, and people have asked
that question nineteen different ways from all the stuff that's
been going on, and it's exhausting. You know enough enough
about have we got enough? We've got enough, and we're
working at it, just like everyone else is working at
We're no different. Everybody will Jami. They've got lear Field,
they've got lear Field. We've got Jami, they've got Learfield,
they've got Playfly. So this notion that we don't have
(27:00):
enough is is ridiculous. We've got enough. We've got to
you resource it the right way. We've got to assess
talent the right way. We've got to acquire it the
right way, and we've got to make sure we're within
the boundaries and the rules. We're not going to break
the rules. That's flat out we're not doing that. All right,
we will do it the right way. We don't need to.
We don't need to do that. We're good enough at
(27:20):
what we do. We've got good people. That's why we
heard this guy. He's really smart, really smart. He's put
together a really good game. Plan of how they're gonna
do it, and they've in the first day they've made
some really nice adjustments to what we're doing, and we'll
be fine. But that notion in all this nonsense has
been created variety of places that we don't have enough
or we're not working at it has got to stop.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
It's enough, all right. So I have a few few
thoughts here about it.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Number One, as an athletic director, you don't get to
tell people enough or it's nonsense. That can Your answer
cannot be just stop talking about it, stop asking me things.
Your job. You are the lead leader of a public institution.
You are not the CEO of a private company. You
are the leader of a public institution. When people have questions,
(28:09):
and it was John Hale who asked it, who is
not exactly the most confrontational guy in the world, you
do not get to look at them and say enough nonsense.
You say you've been asked nineteen different ways. You've done
two press conferences in eight months. Do not tell me
you've been asked nineteen different ways. You don't go in public, okay,
you don't ever talk, So you have not.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Been asked nineteen different ways. Kentucky signed a.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Deal to do NIL is going to be the most
important thing in college sports for the next twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I don't think anybody would disagree with that.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Kentucky signed a deal with JMI to basically do their inile.
Unlike every other program in the country, nobody else has
a situation like ours. They've essentially turned their NILE over
to a private media company.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Now is that gonna work? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Maybe it will, maybe it won't. But there is not
one person, myself included, who's a lawyer knows sports and
those politics. And I don't even know how it works.
I don't even know what our setup is. You know why,
because they announced it via press release and then never
explained it.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
No one understands it.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
I called people at JAYMI the day it came out,
and they couldn't explain it to me.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
There's people at the university that.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Can't explain it, and to sit there and tell the
fans to basically shut up.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
We're fine, We're for fine.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Why did we win four games five games next year
and switch our coaches?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
All right?
Speaker 4 (29:46):
If you're gonna take the position that we don't owe
you all in explanation, well I don't like that. You're
the head of a public school, you do owe people
in explanation. You've now taken the athletics department and basically
made it private, and I think, so you don't have
to release stuff to the public. So I'm never gonna
accept we don't owe you an explanation. But if you're
(30:07):
gonna say that, then you better win right, and you
better get recruits, and you better not have rumors of
Kentucky can't get.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Innil deals done for these guys.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
So the idea that you can just stand up there
and say it's nonsense, it's not nonsense just cause you
say it is, rather than get mad, why don't you
explain what we're doing. There's not one person who can
explain what we're doing, not one who's negotiating the nil deals.
How much money are we given to football? How much
(30:43):
money are we given to basketball? Mark Stoops has basically
acknowledged he literally said pony up, which wasn't which I
think he shouldn't have done, but was an acknowledgment that
at a time we didn't have enough money.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
So I'm just supposed to.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Believe Mitch say we've got enough cause I say, well, Okay,
fair enough, then why haven't we won? So I hated
that answer. I think it distracts from a good day.
And I would say anytime a leader is asked a
question and their answer is to just get mad at
the fact the question is answered, or excuse me is asked,
(31:21):
that's on the leader. That's not on the people asking
the question. If the media and the fans do not
understand what is happening at UK, that's because you haven't
told them, and you haven't talked about it, and you
haven't you've not made it to where anyone gets it,
and that's not our fault, that's your fault.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Well done, Frank Jones.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
I'm just that really frustrates me because, you know, Drew,
it's not nonsense to ask that.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
No other school in the country is doing it like this.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yes, these other schools have media deals, but they're still
letting their private collectives do stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
We're the only one that's taking it in house.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
And I don't know, man, since we've done that, we
haven't signed a basketball recruit yet, and I'm I'm nervous
about it. Will it work? It might, But I don't
think it's.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Crazy to ask about it.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Do you know, and I was smiling. That's my Mitch there.
He is talking to him like their five year old.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
He talks to us. It's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Any press conference I've been to, which is bi annual,
he talks to the media like their kids. And I
can't believe you're questioning me. This goes back to the
cow Stoops thing. He called a press conference and set
with Stoops and scolded us, saying we're making up a story.
And I'm thinking you emailed me and told me to
be here, and now you're yelling at us. Anytime he
gets challenged on anything, and this wasn't even challenged. It
was a very basic question, and he lost it, and
(32:45):
he was pretty unhinged. The question before that, he got
on some rent about people not appreciating Mark Stoops, and
he's pounding the desk and everyone's looking around like but
also people are looking around It's like, who are you
fighting with because the people in front of you, no
one has done the things that you're arguing about right now.
It was like an unhinged press conference, and I see
why he doesn't get out there because he cannot handle it.
He cannot handle any criticism. And this wasn't criticism. This
(33:08):
was John Hale from the Herald Leader asking if our
money situation is good enough for the coach you just hired,
and Mitch, you could see it like a switch flipped.
He could not handle it, and he was talking to
everyone like at their three year old just spilled something
in the house.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
He acts like he has acted, and he's not always
like this. Mitch is a good guy. I think he's
a wonderful man privately, but he has this issue where
he acts like the media and to some extent the
fans work for him that he can just talk to
you like you're his employee.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
How dare you ask.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Me a very normal question?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
It's a very normal question.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I cannot imagine what it would be like for him
if he was at a place where they did ask
really hard quot. Can you imagine if Jerry Tipton was
still here and he asked a quot question? What what
would happen in that scenario?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Watching that, I was getting flashbacks And when I asked
him about the checkerboards.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Anderboards he has.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
He's very much an old school Like I said it,
that's enough.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I feel like my grandpa was yelling at everybody.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Now I've had to say to people at UK a
lot because they all kind of reflect him.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I've said to them, I want to remind you, I
don't work for you. By the way. It's a little thing.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
But let me just give you a final example of
why UK sports is behind in this regard. There was
a press conference yesterday introducing the new coach. Question for you,
if you had a press conference introducing a new coach,
what's the point.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Of doing it publicity?
Speaker 4 (34:53):
What if I told you then, unless you were Jami,
you couldn't broadcast the press conference. They didn't let any
of the TV stations broadcast it. The only one that
could do it on radio was the official one, which
is ours. But when Louisville does a press conference, they'll
let anybody.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
The whole point is to get it out.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
There press, that's the whole point. The point is publicity.
So they had an official press conference where you could
only show it live if you were their official station,
and guess what, the stream didn't work.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Nope.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
That is ridiculous And it's the only let me tell something,
it's the only school in the country that does that.
We are the only school that would call a press
You remember when Cale got hired, that press conference was everywhere,
and when we get hired, it's on the JMI stream
and then it doesn't work. And by the way, I'll
(35:51):
note on the radio they finished it early and they
cut off the last ten minutes of his talking so
we could hear analysis instead of the guy talking.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
It's ridiculous sounds.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
It's ridiculous, and I hope that this kind of thing changes.
But that answer summarized to me why I'm worried now,
Not so much about the football program. I'm excited about
I'm looking forward to talking to this new coach, but
why I'm still worried about the athletics department. That answer,
to me was the symbol as to why we'll take
(36:22):
a break. Right back to KSR. Welcome back, Teke you
Sports Radio A five nine two eight twenty two eighty seven.
A couple of people are saying that the press conference
was on WLAX in Lexington, which it was. That's the
official TV station, So again like that you only get
(36:43):
them through the official TV stations, which is which is
the same as it being on our station. Look from
a selfish respect, it's great that it's only on the
station you're listening to me on now, but from a
program perspective that doesn't help. And again I'll note, if
it's such a great idea, why does no other.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
School in the country do it?
Speaker 4 (37:05):
We finish four and eight and five and seven, and
then I get told that what we're doing is brilliant.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I think if you know there are people who say
to me, why don't you just trust what he's going
to do when we're going ten and two, then Ryan,
I'll trust and not ask questions.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
He is the leader of one of the most powerful
entities in our state and here trying to get us
to support it and be behind it. Well, then explain
it to us. That is your kuinding in that your
duty is the leader to explain why you want us
to support your new entity that you've in.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
When you surround yourself with only people who agree with you,
or you only allow entities that agree with you to
ask you questions, you become separated from the rest of
the world. And we see it in politics and we
have seen it in sports. That's why I give so
much credit to people but like Mark Stoops, who would
(38:01):
come on here after they were critical when I was
critical of cal what did he do stopped coming on.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I'm gonna ask Mitch to come on. I hope he will.
But the more criticism he's gotten over the years, they've retreated.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
And I love Tom Leach, but Tom Leech is not
gonna ask those questions because he's paid by them. But
when is the and then the very few times you
get a question from somebody who's not paid by UK, you.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Get that reaction. That's a problem. It just is.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
And I'm not gonna let it ruin day because Will's
gonna be awesome here in a few minutes.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
But it just is.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Leave a side that he doesn't know how to handle
it and was clearly unhinged and shaking. That was an
opportunity to get more. Like he's saying it up like
we're good, stop asking coal miner for fifty blocks. If
we're so good, that should have been We're in a
great spot, but we can always do better. For will Stein,
we got to feed these studs. I like where we're at,
but we need to keep this energy going. No, he said,
it's enough, all right, so we're good. Cut it off.
(38:58):
Nobody needs to donate with.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Ever, that's all.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
You gotta figure out that was a chance to ask
for more and say we're going to do better. Who
wants to anything, just be like, I'm good, we're done here,
no more, tell us you need more, say you're working
to get more. But it was like, no, everybody, shut up,
We're fine.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
That's a really good point. I hadn't thought about that.
Who's next, shit, Dave, Dave, go ahead, Dave.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
He could take you.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
Prayers for your day's speedy recovery.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Matt, thank you very much, sir.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
I know it's I know it's a football centric, David.
I got a basketball question real quick. Unless I'm missing things.
There's literally nothing being said about the injuries about j Q,
about low Diabat, and there's there's work going around that.
The Diabate thing is that there's some disciplinary issues involved.
I hope you've heard something, and.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Georgie, yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
I have not heard that it's disciplinary beyond just people speculating.
I think it's an injury. We saw him go down,
you know, so, I mean, I it's tough. I mean
I I will go into the Carolina game at some point.
I mean, you can't lose that game and then you did.
We're just not very good and that stinks. But we're
(40:09):
just not very good, I know.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
And with the so much excitement and the National Championship
expectations to just be oh and three at this point,
none of us considered oh and three. Some people you
I can't remember who picked what. Some people probably had
us losing the Louisville maybe losing Owen, but oh and
three and getting blown out in two of them and
having a ten minute scoring drought in the other. It
just doesn't get you excited for We're.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Just not very good.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
And I actually had listened to a podcast on my
drive to Knoxville where the guy talked about how the
you know, in the NBA, they're always looking for the
next thing, and the next thing in the NBA right
now in offense is offensive rebounds. Basically, if you look
at the offensive rebound rate in the NBA, it has
exploded this year. Teams like the team that would have
(40:52):
led the league in offensive rebounds five years ago is
now like nineteenth like, offensive rebounds has become the focus
and people crash the boards. I thought, I listened to
that and I go, oh, that's interesting. I'm gonna I
want to look at some of that stats. I want
to see how it applies to college basketball. And then
I saw that we gave up twenty two second chance
points to North Carolina.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
They had twenty offensive rebounds nor Caroline, but.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Basically they were like all this.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Essentially what the NBA coaches realized is with so many
threes being shot, what do threes lead to long rebounds?
And the thing to exploit is now you have a
better chance of getting offensive rebounds because if you position
yourself right, the rebounds coming out longer, better chance to
come to the offensive player. And the Houston Rockets specifically
have decided offensive rebounding would be their thing and it's
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worked amazingly well. And I was like, man, that's really interesting.
I wonder if we'll start thinking about that in college.
And then twenty two offense twenty two second chance points
that night to North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I was like, maybe Hubert Davis listen to that podcast.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Poor Malechiva doing everything he could, but man, they were
just they all crashed the glass. That big guy they've got,
just a big, strong button post player that got every offensive.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Rebound they weren't. He likes it all right.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
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