December 9, 2025 • 42 mins
Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk Kentucky Basketball vs. NC Central, Will Stein's new contract, and take your calls.
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Kentucky plays the Powerhouse North Carolina Central tonight in rop
Arena in a game that after the debacle in Nashville,
hopefully the cat should have a little problem with You
can just give a shout if I'm nine two eight
oh twenty two eighty seven, Ryan Drew and Shannon are
with me. Ryan, Uh, North Carolina Central one time. I
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think I've told the story a couple times on here
about when I spoke about the death penalty at North
Carolina Central many many years ago. Basically that's predominantly an
all African American college, and I got up and spoke
about it and proceeded to get peppered with questions for
an hour and a half. And that's my one interaction
with North Carolina Central and it was a positive one.
(01:43):
Hopefully tonight will be positive with basketball as well.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I remember you telling that story. I had no idea
it was North Carolina Central.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
North Carolina Central. Yeah, we spoke.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I spoke at like four colleges around North Carolina and
there was somebody that would speak with me at all
of them, and then he skipped the one at North
Carolina Central and that was the one. They invited their
entire like freshman class too, So there were like two
thousand students in the room and.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That was it.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It was good, but it was quite intimidating as you
had to sit there and speak about a controversial issue
right in front of a mass crowd.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I don't think Kentucky will have that many much problem tonight.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
So they asked questions for that long? Were they like
legit good questions?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah, I mean it was this is not how I
thought we'd start to show, Drew, but it was.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah. I was talking about.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
How I was against the death penalty, and I was
talking about my client's case. There were two people who
were going to be executed, the first two in North
Carolina in like twenty five years, and I was expressing
talking about their cases, and then while I was against
the death penalty, and then they just were asking questions,
most of which Drew were like hypotheticals of the same thing.
They'd be like, so this wasn't long after nine to eleven.
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They'd be like, if somebody did nine to eleven, should
they get the death penalty? And it would just be
increasing difficult, like increasingly worse things than I'd have to go, well,
I'm still against a death penalty then too, And they
just asked me kind of the same thing over and over.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
I didn't know you had this big connection to our
big opponent tonight. I remember that story but never replaced.
That was in C Central.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
It's on ut schedule line of Central, so that's I
haven't thought about that school since then. But they'll come
in tonight, and Ryan, I think the Cats, I mean,
I don't know. There's really nothing they can do tonight
that's gonna change anything going forward.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Would you agree?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I guess it's Saturday will be their next chance to
do that.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Yeah, there's absolutely not one thing I think they can
do tonight to improve the attitude of Big Blue Nation Saturday.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
What if they come out like, don't miss a three drew,
they hit like twenty five in a row, would that help?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Well?
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Actually, I wrote a blog post of what they need
to do tonight and it actually doesn't even involve a basketball.
I think fans just want to see them act like
they like each other, Like go out there, have fun,
celebrate your teammate, help them up off the floor if
God forbid, they dive on the floor, but just owe
some togetherness. I think that will because they need to
hit a reset, like after last Friday, there needs to
be a full reset. Maybe just have some fun tonight
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and we'll go from there with Indiana on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
See what's the best way for them to act like
they like each other, like walk out hand in hands.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yes, I want to see them like hugging each other
like you.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Know, congo line. The thing, man, is this a nursing hall.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Where they're recreate the football picture?
Speaker 7 (04:30):
You hold hands and jump up and kick your legs
up in the.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Work for the football team either though, that's what we
need together in the picture.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
We took a little groof for that picture.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I think wondering about that picture was probably still uh
still fair. So yesterday it seemed to me the conversation
around Kentucky, uh, Kentucky world has been really two things.
One the question of is it acceptable to boo, which
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we talked about a lot about yesterday, And it seems
like most fans almost right.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
If you had told me ten.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Years ago that this fan base would be in a
place where I would see even little old ladies saying
yes you can boo, I would have been shocked. But
it seems like most of the fans believe that's okay.
We put we put a video up yesterday on social
media Mario did of our discussion, and surprisingly little pushback from.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
People about it.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I think the new age of college sports, which I
think has a lot of positives. Also though, has led
to a viewpoint of fans with a professionalism of Okay,
that's what it is. So now, like the guy who
called Shannon and Billy show, it's like if I fired
my gardener, although I didn't realize he would go around
and boo his gardener, would I think, right, that's just
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how it is now. Is that that's part of the
trade off of guys making money.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
It is a different era, and now you're not necessarily
a college student athlete. You're a professionally trained, professionally paid
athlete now, and I think people would take that attitude.
I never thought I would ever see it that Kentucky
fans would boo their own team the way they did
in Nashville the other night.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
But I think that's the age we live in.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
But you took the view of the like you're becoming mister.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Old school. You're like, we shouldn't boo. But you kind
of got shouted down yesterday. Did you find a lot
of people after the show that agreed with you on that?
Speaker 8 (06:29):
Very few?
Speaker 7 (06:30):
I mean I got some very few, Okay, all right?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
And like I said the other day, I understand while
they were booing. I just wouldn't do it myself. I
just think it's a it's a that's a bad look.
Speaker 9 (06:39):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
During the next part of the conversation, then went to
what is the cause of the problem. And on this point,
I don't think we're talking about the basketball cause.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Because I think there's a lot of basketball courses.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
But people then go to what's the cause of the
of the team either not caring or not liking each other?
And there are two things that come up the most.
The first one is people want to point to some event,
and I mean, if you've been around this fan base
at all, everyone has I think I've said I've been
sent over a thousand times.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
All right, Matt, don't get put this on me.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
But my friend is related to and rubber butt, and
they all tell some version of, if not the same story,
some version of a story that I just have to
tell you. From my perspective, I think is likely not
the case. I think any time a story gets that
far out, it's likely not the case. But there is
this desire to find an event that caused it. Do
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you think Drew, that there is an event or a
something that caused it? Whether it be in the Louisville
locker room or something before that, or do you think
it could just be you know, sometimes people just don't
get along and sometimes people just don't like each other.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
What do you think is the more likely scenario.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
I still struggle with this because if it was one event,
and we've heard plenty of room, that should only affect
a few people, the whole team is playing bad, like
not to just rag on everyone, but I feel like
some of these rumors we've heard, Okay, why does that
keep Brandon Garrison from jumping for a rebound? Or why
does they keep Trenton Noah from making a three?
Speaker 8 (08:15):
So that's why.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Sure, maybe something happened, but that still doesn't explain why
the whole team looks bad to me, because if it
is a one off, you know, teammate versus teammate on
something that shouldn't affect everybody, and if it does, then
Pope needs to do a better job of getting that
out of the locker room and getting everybody on the
same page. So I'm still perplexed of how the whole
team is so bad if it was one uh one thing.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
You know, there there's always been over the years and
sometimes in the Cal years this was me, and sometimes
it was Kyle Tucker. And then sometimes it would be
like with Cal, it might be like Mike the Corsi
or whatever. There's always somebody who when they say something,
you kind of know, okay, this is the message that
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the staff wants to get out right. I don't think
Pope has that guy, meaning like, there's nobody that talks that.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I say for sure that came from Mark Pope.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Probably the closest one is is Matt Norlander and probably
Jeff Goodman, although even then I don't think it comes
from Pope. I think it comes from assistance. I don't
really think Pope talks to anybody. So because of that,
I keep waiting to see from Jeff Goodman or Matt
Norland or the signal of what's really going on, and
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then nothing comes out right, which makes me even more confused,
because it does seem like.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Maybe it's just that the coaches are perplexed.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
And they have no idea why this is happening, which
is right in some ways, even worse than if we
had an explanation.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I am doing the both that something happened before that
Louisville game, because you know Pope is honest to a fault.
I don't think he would have even said that if
it's something something didn't happen on.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
The you know, but he's trying to play that down.
You don't think that that matters.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
No, I think something happened.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
I guess I don't know what it was.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
When you think something happened, because it's like logical deduction,
or do you like, is there a little Ryan Lemon's scoopyess?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
No, no, no, scoop. I I'm basing at all on
what I feel about Mark Pope. I don't think he
would have said that if something didn't happen. So what
if it's a combination of the of both. Maybe something
did happen, and it's maybe something that some of these
guys just don't like each other.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It did look to me though, Okay, so the little
bit I was around the team, which included some of
those preseason practices, in media day and even some of
the preseason events drew I will say it looked to
me like they got along then, So I mean, you know,
I don't know, And maybe when adversity hit something, we
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will always wonder what happened in that locker room. And
I think if you were going to point to a
singular event, I think that would be when it made
the most sense.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
But now you know, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
It's been a month, like it really has, Like if
it truly was like a teammate on teammate thing figured
it out. It's been a month calling in your office,
throw the boxing gloves down and say, y'all work it out.
We got bigger goals than whatever you all have going on.
It has been a month since that locker room, and
it's just getting worse. If something like that happened, it
should linger a little while, get it out of their system,
and then let's go win some basketball games.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
That's why you're here.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
And we've seen y we've.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Seen Ryan lose it before, right, Yeah, he gets that
and then he gets he's sometimes fine later that day.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, but then he holds a grudge against people too though, yeh, But.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
He doesn't hold a grudge against us. He holds a
grudge against like two.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
People, right, Well, maybe that's the two people that.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Makes it Ryan where you can't get over that, because
that has to be what this team is like.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
They're holding the grudge, they can't get over.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Being disloyal, lying to my face that that that'll get
you on my black list.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well he really, he always ring lifetime ban is a.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Lifetime ban, all right.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
So then the second thing that people say is, Okay,
the problem is all these guys are.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Making money and so they don't care anymore.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Willie Cauley Stein Drew, of all people, of all people,
put out a post almost suggesting that this morning, saying, well,
now all these guys got cars and stuff, and so
they don't care as much. I find that funny considering
really calling time's time here? Would you agree with the
hat Drew that that's at least amusing coming from him.
Speaker 8 (12:28):
Yeah, trying to be careful.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Here, Yeah, that's what I'm saying, you gotta be careing.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
I will say the cars have even improved since the Caliperi.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Cars have proved.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
The carved Now it's even Maseratis. I think back then
it was just like a BMW. Now it's Maseratis.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
But they weren't driving around Pinto's back then.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
It's just the way they were still driving good cars.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
But that doesn't explain, though, Drew, these other teams that
are making money and doing well, Like, if you want
to say it's cause of the money.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Then you have to explain to me why these other
teams do well.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
More specifically, if you want to say it's because of
the money, how do you explain when these dudes in
the NBA, you know, throw their bodies on the line, Like,
it cannot be that it is just the money. Now,
some people don't react well to money, but some people
were selfish when they were getting nothing, Like human nature
can be selfish. So I personally do not blame the
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money because there are others. I mean, Michigan's getting paid
more than anybody and they're playing great. I don't think
it's the money, Drew. I think it's the people, not
the money. Do you disagree.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
I'm with you on that because there's schools that have
had some high paying athletes who are doing exactly what
they're paid to do. And also it like if you
got money, and like, oh, if I play well, I
get money, that would get you want to play more
to get more money. Like I look at the way
and people say, oh, his mind's on the NBA.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
I'm watching him lose money by the second every time
he gets on the basketball court, because if I must say, yeah,
if I'm watching him pout and give no effort, I'm
not drafting. So if money was the motivation, I would
almost think they'd be they'd be selfish, but they'd at
least be playing hard.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, I mean might look shan.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I think there was a philosopher that said, MO, money,
MO problem right if you but if you have it,
you're gonna keep trying. I just Ryan, I don't believe
the money thing at all, because I'll give you I
use example of Michigan. Let's use Texas Tech. Okay, Texas
Tech threw massive amounts of money in their football and
basketball program. They have that booster who does all those
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stupid score Act commercials, and he's put all this money
into Texas Tech. And guess what, they're number four in
the football playoff rankings and they're in the top ten
in basketball. Why he went out and got dudes with
money and they wouldn't played hard. So that clearly worked
for him. It's not working here, and so I don't
blame the money. I blame us, our guys, our coaches.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Yeah, if the money has is a factory. If whatever
happened and for the little games of factor. It all
comes down to that roster construction.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Who you have on the.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Floor, and you're your your returning guy, You're two big
guys you were counting on. Garrison and Otega have have
done nothing really to help you much.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
I do.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Yeah, there's they're supposed to be your leaders, your stars,
your starters. But then you know you heard Pope last night,
He's coaching show. Oh take it just had the best
practice he's had in two years this week.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I have to say the room, the relentless positivity is
like would be like listening Shannon to ted Lasso after
a seven game losing streak. Like I love ted Lasso,
but sometimes I need you to like not tell me
things are positive.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
No, not everything in life is beautiful. Sometimes there's some
ugly in there, and and we saw that, we've seen it.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Yeah, Io the Coin show last night, what'd you say?
I booed the call in show last night, ed Kevin Greevy.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
Stories.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
When they start doing that, when they start bringing on
players and doing thirty minute interviews instead of taking calls,
you've already given it away right there where we are.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, let's talk about the good ol days only actually,
let's talk.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Let's let's talk about it.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I like Kevin Greevy, but when you bring on Kevin
Greevy right after a thirty five point loss, you are
saying that you don't want to talk about it, and
that's the worst way to do it with fans. I'm
just telling you they've never learned this lesson, going back
to Tubby Smith when he was broad on Jeff Shephard
right before he left. Like, you can't do it like that,
they still do it. They always make them the same
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mistake and nobody ever learns a f nine two eighth
twenty two eighty seven. We'll take a break, be right back.
This is Kentucky Sports Radio speaking to somebody who ended
up with MO problems, Channon after their MO money, the
singer of this singer of this song.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Right, that's right, Yeah, it didn't work out too well.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Have you ever watched that documentary yet? I hear it's good.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
I'm all the way through it already done, went straight
to it and beinged it. Oh. We used to have
rap song disses. They've just dissed each other with music.
Now we have full blown documentaries dissing each other. I
love it made this one bought the footage from Diddy's
people and then use it against.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Say, know that fifty bought the footage from Oh I
didn't know that company.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
Yeah, fifty swooped in and did it.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
So it's kind of like a disk documentary on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Is it on Netflix? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:18):
It's not a great look for not that any of
this has been a great look for Diddy, but somehow
it gets much worse for him with this documentary.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Really.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
All right, well, one person, So I've compiled Ryan just
a partial list of the various people who people have
texted the text machine and said they told them the
story of what's actually going on.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
All right, So these are people.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I'm not gonna say what they said, Chandon, but these
are people who people have said have told them what's
really happened.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I don't believe it, don't believe any of it.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Oh, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
But let's the question is which of these people do
you think has the best chance of knowing? Okay, this
is just in the last twenty four hours. Kenny Walker,
do you think he would know.
Speaker 8 (18:08):
He is everywhere?
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
All right, Jackson Robinson, do you think he would know?
Speaker 7 (18:15):
I won't say, no, Where's caraving around? Is he right now?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Is he Linda Gordon's top aid?
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Yeah, Drew's a big Linda Gordon fan.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
You think Linda Gordon's top aid would know.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
She's the top aids, the leader in the clubhouse.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
So far of what you've said, all right, Robert Stivers,
stud the state Senator. And then finally my favorite, this
one just came this morning. Steve Bachman of Backman Chevrolet.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Not a sponsor. Now you said Paul Miller or Paul
Miller four Now he would be man, we had to
talk about it.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
These are just the people who people have written the
text machine to say they know what's going on with
the players. I'm going to say, of all those, I'm
gonna say Steve Bachman and.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Bought Yeah, more so than Kenny Walker.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I mean, when it says it went well, Kenny's not
like he's not in practice, I mean, well, we don't.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Think the guy's like taking a break from selling cars
to go watch the practice and get in the locker room.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Well, I mean I didn't even have Linda Gordon's top
aids name, So how am I supposed to believe that
they know?
Speaker 8 (19:24):
Maybe they're operating the shadows.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Maybe the bagman guys selling them cars or something. I
don't know. Maybe maybe even you're onto something here.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Jackson Robinson's still around a lot. He has former teammates
that are on the team.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I thought Jackson Robinson would have seemed like, you know,
he would know that's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
There's right. Wouldn't Jackson Robinson know Ryan because he was
on the team.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
And not just the current players that are back. You know,
they have forty grad assistants and managers over there.
Speaker 8 (19:49):
He probably could still talk to.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Where is Jackson Robinson now? Is he in the G
League somewhere?
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Not sure he was in the Cavs system. I don't
know if he's still a part of it.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I think I haven't heard about him in long time.
All right.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
We also got yesterday Ryan the contract for will Side
YEP five point five million dollars for five years. Basically,
it's five point five and five point six and five
point seven, so it ended up averaging about five point
seven between five point seven and five point eight for
his career. If he gets fired during that time, he
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gets seventy percent of the contract paid out in the
time frame.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
It would be paid.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
So we didn't make the mistake of doing the lump
sum due within sixty days. This has kind of become
the base pay ryan for new coaches with no experience.
I think a lot of these other guys, he'll be
now one of the lower paid coaches in the SEC,
but it's kind of commiserate with his experience. Seems like
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to me a pretty good deal. The seventy percent is
kind of standard now across college football, so less than
the total, but still a significant amount of money. What
did you think of the will Stein deal?
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Well, hear and you say, that's kind of standard. I
had no idea if that was a seventy percent, if
that was a kind of the standard buyout.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
In big schools. That's become kind of the standard of
the big schools. If you don't have any leverage now
when you when you re sign they end up taking
that out. But for new coaches, that's kind of become standard.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
So hearing all that, I absolutely having zero problem with it.
You know, Kentucky got a basketball coach and a football
coach at a much cheaper rate than they had the
previous two guys, So saving some money, I guess all
the way around.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Drew, Yeah, I immediately just went to the buyout situation
making sure we didn't get got again paid out monthly.
That's much better than sixty days. Stein actually owes a lot,
as you said, if he if he were to leave,
So that was the thing I went to first. Also
noticed that the the extension, you know, his incentives. He's
got to make the playoff, not just make a bowl
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game as you know with stud win six games or
seven games. Stein's is and get to the playoff bracket.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
He gets a big bonus, but it starts with the playoff,
so it's not just about making a bawl. Now, the
second part of that is Mark stoops. Mark stoops, it
turns out extended his deal, so rather than have to
pay it immediately, they paid him four million dollars immediately immediately,
and they will pay him over the next four years
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one point seven million dollars every three months.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Shannon to not coach for the next four years.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
That's a great deal. But it's also nice of him
to do what he did for Kentucky because he couldn't
tut you know, all that money. Think about the interest
he could have made if he had all that money
up front versus spreading out one.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Point seven million dollars every three months for the next
four years at totals the thirty seven million. But as
Shannon points out, he didn't have to do that. He
could have demanded it immediately, and instead he spread it
out like that.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
So they gave him four.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Million dollars a day he did it, and then one
point seven every three months going forward. It's a lot
of money. It's especially a lot of money not to coach.
But at the same time, he didn't have to do that. Nope,
and oddly they will now end up paying him like
that one point seven. It will make it to where
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financially it's not that bad for Kentucky and Stoops didn't
have to do that.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
We'll take your calls right after this KSR. TJ.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
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Speaker 2 (23:29):
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Speaker 4 (23:35):
So, Shannon, guys, I need to just before we go
to calls, one little nerve wracking thing. All right, during
the break, I just got a text message from I
got at ESPN okay, and it says, Matt, do you
want to meet this afternoon to talk about the New
Orleans Bowl. So, by the way, I am doing the
ESPN radio broadcast ride for the New Orleans Bowl, which
(23:58):
is today.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yep, two weeks from today.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
And apparently I'm doing the play by play, which is
I've never done the play by play, so I mean,
of course, Drew. Perfect time to debut is on national
radio right to heavy postseason. When's the best time to
learn to do live play by play?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Then national radio with a bowl game.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Perfect time with somewhat of a local team playing. That'll
all be listening to my Sunday morning radio boss.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Say to me the other day, Shannon excited to listen
to you do the New Orleans bo.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Don't know how that's gonna go. That's exactly what he said.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
He does realize you have never done this before, so
I would exc's gonna go. The bar is probably pretty low.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I don't think he's got but let me just say,
you know, play by play is a whole other thing.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
It's not easy.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
And so the game gets announced.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
It's Western Kentucky and Southern miss I think Ryan pretty
good draw for me, right, Western Kentucky.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Couldn't have been any better for you, really to get.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Honestly, couldn't have been any better Southern Miss. As a
side note, one of the guys in my fellowship is
one of Southern Miss's biggest boosters. Oh, so I feel
like I can get some information on Southern Miss and
then Western's Western. So he writes me during the break
and he goes, I'm so and so I'm your producer
for ESPN for the.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
New Orleans Bowl.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Do you know who your stats and spotter are yet?
I don't know what that means. I've been wondering. I've
been wondering why strangers have been writing me offering to
be my spotter, because I was like, Shannon, how do
these people know who I am?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Why do they keep writing me? How do they even know?
I need a.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Spot to get somebody with binoculars who can see the game.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Turns out of ESPN has a database where they say, hey, spotters,
here's who where we need them for.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
So that's why people are writing me.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
I've been wondering, should they provide the spotter? You shouldn't,
you're the terrible spotter.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Okay, apparently I get to pick because I get to
pick one i'm comfortable with.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Here's the problem.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I don't know any of these people, So how am
I going to be comfortable with any of them?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
How do I pick?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
This is a problem.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
Who wants to be my spotterer? Like a contest?
Speaker 4 (26:13):
So I've already decided my stat's guy I'm gonna pick.
I'm gonna pick Billy.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Was he an option?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I don't think Billy was the list of may on
the list.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
But he's gonna be on the list because he went
to Western, right, so he can handle.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
That big deal.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Yes, and I'm comfortable with Billy. Billy knows how to
work with me now after the last couple of years.
But I don't think Billy can spot. So how do
I pick Drew? Who to spot?
Speaker 6 (26:41):
I mean, you're just gonna have to to get some
one on one, some FaceTime with these people, get to
know them. Can we get about their families? You need
to trust this person. They're gonna be in the fox
with you.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
You don't now if you can get Billy, you can
get Ryan as your spot.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
But I need I need at least one person in
this operation to know what the hell they're doing.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
I would definitely get sidetracked cool watching something else than
the game.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
But Ryan has done like high school football, games is ti.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Rian Ryan is literally the worst choice for the exact
reason he just said he would.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
A spotter has to see a number on a jersey
immediately know who that is.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Like, yes, exactly, they're in a you know, for eighty
one wide, Like you gotta do all that and you
know I don't know what any of that stuff means.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Shammon. Yeah, so that person I will be relying heavily.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Here's the great thing about doing radio. If you get
it wrong, nobody can call it.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
So nobody's gonna know.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
You're gonna be.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Fine, But the producers are gonna know.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Well, they don't have to tell anybody.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
But this is like, this is two weeks from today.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Are you practicing? What are you doing to get ready?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
I've practiced a little bit, but you know, I've I've
had some stuff come up, so I've been a little distracted.
Now I'm my plan is to watch, I asked. I
asked an ESPN person, I'm gonna talk to Tom Hark
this week.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
What are you laughing at?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
That might be a good start. Talk to somebody who
does this for a living, Tom Hart, Tom Lee.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
And he said to me, Tom has written me about
it too. I'm gonna get I'm gonna rely on the Toms.
They said to me to watch like the last three
or four games of these teams. So I'm gonna watch
Western and Southern Miss what I've always wanted to do. Sure,
just watch Western and Southern Miss football.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Western. You know almost bet LSU a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
There's a good place.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
That's the kind of fact I can say on the radio,
shiite Western almost bet LSU a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Now you've got three more hours to fill.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Now, what time Kentucky plays that day Kentucky plays Bellerman?
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I believe I've.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Looked at the time, Ryan, I believe the postgame show
will be ending right as this broadcast.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Comes on the air. Perfect. See see if that's correct.
What time is the bellermane?
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Get that's at one o'clock.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Exactly, So that means postgame show starts about four. The
New Orleans Bowl starts at five.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Perfect. Perfect.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
We can just we can guide everybody to tune right
into it.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, well, you don't need to be doing the post
game show. You're not doing that.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I'm not doing post games. Somebody else canna be doing that.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
I got preparing Yeah, this is the anniversary of the
New Orleans Bowl?
Speaker 8 (29:16):
Is it in any New Orleans Bowl?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
This is twenty five New Orleans Bowl.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
And you've been to Southern miss Yeah, you can talk about.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
West.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I's talk about how Nick Rash got drunk and we
had to try to get him home at the end
of the night in Hattiesburg.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
No, that's what the color commentator does. You're the playboy
play guy. You gotta stick to play by play. You
can't have personality. You got to be play by play.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
I think we're gonna have a lot of color commentary
from this broadcast.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I think so no play, very little play by play,
just be telling stories. But guys, there's a game going on.
What's happening in the game.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yeah, this may be less play by play, more code
for most of the game.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
So well, good luck.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, stats spotder you wait two weeks. I'm on need
your all support though. I need you building me up,
all right. I already had my my boss look at
me and go well this will be interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I need you all building me up, not bringing me.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Tom Leech has this big board that he puts together
with all these stats and everything. You need something like
that in front of you.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, there's somebody that can do that.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
You're spotder, Billy.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
You know Corey Price does stats for the UK people.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
He got my stats, I got, Billy. I need a
spotder and I need to figure out these people that
write me. I don't know how to pick which one.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Gets to get something. You shut up. It's gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
No, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
It's just that may be a less traditional broadcast than
what they're used to in the New Orleans Bowl.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
But people entertained how many people.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Are listening to the New Orleans Bowl on the ESPN radio.
You can't be It's gonna be more now.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I think that's why they put me, put us on,
because they think we can bring an audience and then
we'll hopefully not bomb completely.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Who's the first, Harold, Harold?
Speaker 10 (31:03):
Go ahead, Harold, Yes, I was micro call is concerned
about yesterday. Kentucky several years ago got beat at Kansas
fifty points. Yes they did, Yes, so that was the
worst offs I was just asking you. I don't know
who the coach was.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
It was Patino, it was it was Patino's first year.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
I think they went down there wasn't am I right
about that Ryan. Wasn't it Patino's first year. They went
down there and just got obliterated.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
And he kept pressing. He wasn't going to change his style.
He kept doing the same thing, and they just kept
getting the brains beat in that day.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
Yes, yeah, okay, well, thinking about your dad, hope he
gets better.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Thank you, sir. I appreciate it, appreciate the call. Yeah,
I believe that was that was the scenario.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
So, yeah, they kept pressing, kept shooting threes. They didn't
change their style of play at all.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yeah, I wish I had the same I mean, that
was his first year. This is the second year, so
it is a little bit different. What's next, Dan, Daan,
go ahead, Daan.
Speaker 11 (32:07):
Hey, guys, I think I'm the basketball front. It's a
little bit of a search for an emotional holy Grail
that's not going to be found, So I wanted to
use a different analogy. I think you four, Billy and
Mario make a really good team. And I think that
in the summer, you're all content's probably the best. Now,
imagine for two months, when the games get started, three
of you are out, and iHeartRadio executives are crapping their
(32:31):
pants because they're trying to get the same level of
quality that they would have had if three of you
are in And so they're finding some other people to
fill it, and they're expecting the same quality, the same pacing,
the same content, And I don't think that's a realistic thing.
That doesn't mean that those people aren't talented. That doesn't
mean that those people don't care. That doesn't mean that
those people aren't doing it for the money. It just
(32:52):
means that they aren't up to the talent of what
the OG team would be.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
That's not, in the same way terrible analogy. But here's
what I would say.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
That's not a terrible analogy, and I think you're I
think that's correct. However, at the center point of that is,
you know, you would have your main returner, right, like
your centerpiece of the whole thing it's built around, which
in this case might be me and in the basketball
case is Otaga. It's one thing if Otaga's not there,
(33:22):
but Otaga's there, right, and while it's never gonna be
as good without the full complementary of things if Otaga's there.
And let's say Ryan is Brandon Garrison because he's been
around for a long time and we're back, we should
be able to not produce a clunker every single big
show because at least the two returning Stallharts are there. Yeah,
(33:44):
we might not have Drew and Shannon and Mario and
we're gonna get them, but we at.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Least got those two. That was the whole centerpiece of
what we brought back.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
And if that doesn't work, then I do think you
have to go, wait a minute, what's going on?
Speaker 11 (34:00):
That's fair, but I mean, what if you had to
set up all the electronic stuff that Billy does.
Speaker 12 (34:04):
Well some of these that's a good point at some point,
Well at some point that be like a sacrificial nature
to it, right, and like it would be really frustrating,
and you wouldn't be your strengths wouldn't be at your highest.
Speaker 11 (34:17):
So I think to expect Otega to, you know, to
to every game give one hundred and fifteen percent and
think that he's just going to be smooth, I think
it's a little bit short sighted.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Fair enough, I appreciate the call, and that might not
be nice Drew to call Ryan Brandon Garrison he's beat,
He's he's.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Been better than I see it a little bit.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
And their strengths where we're similar in our size.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Okay, that's probably not.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Do you did you hear any of the scuttle butt
from the open practice they had yesterday from the.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Do you have some scuttle butt? Yes?
Speaker 4 (34:47):
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Speaker 3 (35:23):
Quarterback. Take you sports radio. All right, Drew.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
People are suggesting that we have the spotter tryouts on air.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 6 (35:30):
I said, you should have a who wants to be
my spotter contest.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
But I need somebody with experience.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Well that's what I mean.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
They gotta they gotta make their case, they gotta come on,
maybe give their background, what they're looking for when they're spotting,
what kind of binoculars they use, all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
The longtime spot at UK is a big fan of
this show, listens all the time, text me, like almost
every day during the show.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Has he texted you about this?
Speaker 7 (35:53):
Not yet?
Speaker 4 (35:55):
It feels like this would have been a good time
to text you, Like if time listener of this show.
Like literally, if I listen to this show all the
time and I was a spotterer for UK and I
texted Ryan every day during the show, feels like, Shaanea,
this would have been the day.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
To text Yeah, if you ever wanted to do it
right now.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Maybe he just doesn't want to do it, Yeah, exactly.
He's like, I don't want to go down with that ship.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I don't want to tie my good name to this
train wreck of a show.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
I'm making this good no matter what, even if it
just has to be me and Myron taking calls during the.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I don't think it works that way.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Why not you just take it?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
You're we completely revolutionize the way they call football.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, we just completely act like the game's not even
going on. We completely ignore the game honestly, we'll give
you a score update.
Speaker 8 (36:47):
Every now and then. I can hear it now.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
In the second half, Matt turns to to Myron and says, so,
who are the famous athletes from New Orleans and all
the usual things we do on the show when we're
in New cities, Patties bur you.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Know our friends about me.
Speaker 13 (37:05):
It's gonna be Myron, that is, I'm gonna go, you know,
Montana Grill and Bowling Green. I really like it to
eat there sometimes, Corvette Museum, Right, should I bring up
that Bowler Green has more people per happiness on ozimpic.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Is important.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I feel like that should be on there, don't you.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I mean, we need to know the cities. We need
to know the cities that are playing.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Know the places.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
Yeah for the looms and Bowling Green.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
You can talk about bring in special gas from all
these hill billy gims from Bowling Green.
Speaker 13 (37:37):
Right, Yeah, I'm breaking the country boy boy, country boy.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
It's it's gonna be a great game.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
You can just bust into song of all those.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
New Orleans bowl has never seen anything like this. Who's next, Pete, Pete,
go ahead, Pete.
Speaker 9 (37:56):
Hey, guys, I got a little story about most Tlana Central,
originally from Owensboro. I went to go play soccer to
Tney College in front Roll of Virginia and ended up
playing basketball there as well. Tiny school like five hundred undergred.
My junior year, we play at North Carolina Central and
we lose one hundred and sixteen to thirty eight, and.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Well, you're gonna be on the schedule next year.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Your team's gonna play Mark Pope's gonna play you guys
next year to make sure that we win.
Speaker 9 (38:26):
I had two threes that game at in Durham, So
if they if the Cats need me tonight, I can
come by and probably toss.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Up a few.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Well, appreciate to call. Do we know anything, Drew? You're
pretty good about knowing these teams. What do we know
about North Carolina Central tonight?
Speaker 8 (38:41):
What do I not know about North Carolina Central?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Map?
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Okay, I actually got a little bit scared. I saw
they beat Carolina about one by forty points, one hundred
and nine to something. But I realize it's not North Carolina.
There's a school just called Carolina. Did you know that?
They don't even have a page on ESPN.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
There's a school just called Carolina, not even which stay.
Speaker 8 (39:00):
No, they in C Central.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Where is that?
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (39:05):
I think it's I'll have to look that up.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
You can't even click on their on their page on
ESPN dot com.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Wow, I didn't, I mean I lived there. I didn't
know there was a school just called Caroline.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
Beat him by forty five. It's our common opponent is
Winston Salem.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Yeh, I been driven through Winston Salem a thousand times.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 8 (39:24):
But go ahead really threw me off too.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
They played UNC and lost by uh forty four. That's
our common opponent. They do have a star player, Gauge
Latimore I believe is his name, shooting like forty five
percent from three and getting twenty points a game. I
actually wonder, well, I was wondering if he could just
maybe come over to our team. I don't know, there's
not really rules anymore.
Speaker 8 (39:47):
But he's a bucket.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
He's just like we could use him.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
Yeah, they go as he goes. He's first time at
this level. He was at another school that doesn't even
have an ESPN page last year from like D three.
So he's the name to watch, but they're not good.
Amore Rake three hundred and fiftieth out of three hundred
and sixty five teams on Kim Pumpkins, we are a
forty five scheduled.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
I mean, we have scheduled the lowest of the low
this year. We would be interesting to see Ryan, what
would happen if we played like Minnesota, right, I mean,
because all the teams we've played have been top twenty
or awful yep, Like we've not played because so it's
hard for me to know how are we gonna do
in the SEC against teams like Mississippi State because everybody
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we've played is either really good or awful, And so
you know this is gonna be another like we're and
we're that's all we're playing until not until conference played.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
So I know when we play Alabama we're gonna struggle.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
But how are we gonna do against like Old miss
or how are we gonna do against Vandy?
Speaker 3 (40:46):
That's the thing we don't know yet.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
You're exactly right, and our sample size we have to
go on is not good. We the teams you're supposed
to beat, you're beating the bad the teams are that
are competitive.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
You're getting drilled.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
So the teams that we're getting drilled by are really good.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Teams mississips Michigan State ends up being fantastic, and we
thought that might be the easiest of the six games.
Speaker 6 (41:06):
Remember and three of our five wins. They're ranked three
hundred and twentieth or worse. Like that's hard to.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Get a read on anything.
Speaker 8 (41:15):
That Saturday they're aught to be a little bit of
a skid though.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
They've had two bad losses and they're starting to get
me after a front start.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Saturday they did it will not be good if we don't.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Now, you've got a doctor's appointment here, right, so you're
leaving correct?
Speaker 7 (41:31):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (41:35):
They had Big Blue United in for an open practice yesterday.
I'll give you the quick three to three hits. One
you never could tell they don't like each other. They
seem like they one hundred percent liked each other and
got along well. Two Cam Williams and Trenton Noah did
not miss a shot the entire practice.
Speaker 7 (41:49):
He did not miss.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
And three Jaden Quainton's practice a lot against Rhese Potter
going one on one with him and he looks like
a man child.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
I mean, those are all good things, but I don't
know is that encouraging. I wish they would make them
in the game for tonight, maybe so.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
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think I've told the story a couple times on here
about when I spoke about the death penalty at North
Carolina Central many many years ago. Basically that's predominantly an
all African American college, and I got up and spoke
about it and proceeded to get peppered with questions for
an hour and a half. And that's my one interaction
with North Carolina Central and it was a positive one.
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Hopefully tonight will be positive with basketball as well.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I remember you telling that story. I had no idea
it was North Carolina Central.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
North Carolina Central. Yeah, we spoke.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I spoke at like four colleges around North Carolina and
there was somebody that would speak with me at all
of them, and then he skipped the one at North
Carolina Central and that was the one. They invited their
entire like freshman class too, So there were like two
thousand students in the room and.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That was it.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It was good, but it was quite intimidating as you
had to sit there and speak about a controversial issue
right in front of a mass crowd.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I don't think Kentucky will have that many much problem tonight.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
So they asked questions for that long? Were they like
legit good questions?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah, I mean it was this is not how I
thought we'd start to show, Drew, but it was.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah. I was talking about.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
How I was against the death penalty, and I was
talking about my client's case. There were two people who
were going to be executed, the first two in North
Carolina in like twenty five years, and I was expressing
talking about their cases, and then while I was against
the death penalty, and then they just were asking questions,
most of which Drew were like hypotheticals of the same thing.
They'd be like, so this wasn't long after nine to eleven.
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They'd be like, if somebody did nine to eleven, should
they get the death penalty? And it would just be
increasing difficult, like increasingly worse things than I'd have to go, well,
I'm still against a death penalty then too, And they
just asked me kind of the same thing over and over.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
I didn't know you had this big connection to our
big opponent tonight. I remember that story but never replaced.
That was in C Central.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
It's on ut schedule line of Central, so that's I
haven't thought about that school since then. But they'll come
in tonight, and Ryan, I think the Cats, I mean,
I don't know. There's really nothing they can do tonight
that's gonna change anything going forward.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Would you agree?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I guess it's Saturday will be their next chance to
do that.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Yeah, there's absolutely not one thing I think they can
do tonight to improve the attitude of Big Blue Nation Saturday.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
What if they come out like, don't miss a three drew,
they hit like twenty five in a row, would that help?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Well?
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Actually, I wrote a blog post of what they need
to do tonight and it actually doesn't even involve a basketball.
I think fans just want to see them act like
they like each other, Like go out there, have fun,
celebrate your teammate, help them up off the floor if
God forbid, they dive on the floor, but just owe
some togetherness. I think that will because they need to
hit a reset, like after last Friday, there needs to
be a full reset. Maybe just have some fun tonight
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and we'll go from there with Indiana on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
See what's the best way for them to act like
they like each other, like walk out hand in hands.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yes, I want to see them like hugging each other
like you.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Know, congo line. The thing, man, is this a nursing hall.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Where they're recreate the football picture?
Speaker 7 (04:30):
You hold hands and jump up and kick your legs
up in the.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Work for the football team either though, that's what we
need together in the picture.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
We took a little groof for that picture.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I think wondering about that picture was probably still uh
still fair. So yesterday it seemed to me the conversation
around Kentucky, uh, Kentucky world has been really two things.
One the question of is it acceptable to boo, which
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we talked about a lot about yesterday, And it seems
like most fans almost right.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
If you had told me ten.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Years ago that this fan base would be in a
place where I would see even little old ladies saying
yes you can boo, I would have been shocked. But
it seems like most of the fans believe that's okay.
We put we put a video up yesterday on social
media Mario did of our discussion, and surprisingly little pushback from.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
People about it.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I think the new age of college sports, which I
think has a lot of positives. Also though, has led
to a viewpoint of fans with a professionalism of Okay,
that's what it is. So now, like the guy who
called Shannon and Billy show, it's like if I fired
my gardener, although I didn't realize he would go around
and boo his gardener, would I think, right, that's just
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how it is now. Is that that's part of the
trade off of guys making money.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
It is a different era, and now you're not necessarily
a college student athlete. You're a professionally trained, professionally paid
athlete now, and I think people would take that attitude.
I never thought I would ever see it that Kentucky
fans would boo their own team the way they did
in Nashville the other night.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
But I think that's the age we live in.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
But you took the view of the like you're becoming mister.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Old school. You're like, we shouldn't boo. But you kind
of got shouted down yesterday. Did you find a lot
of people after the show that agreed with you on that?
Speaker 8 (06:29):
Very few?
Speaker 7 (06:30):
I mean I got some very few, Okay, all right?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
And like I said the other day, I understand while
they were booing. I just wouldn't do it myself. I
just think it's a it's a that's a bad look.
Speaker 9 (06:39):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
During the next part of the conversation, then went to
what is the cause of the problem. And on this point,
I don't think we're talking about the basketball cause.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Because I think there's a lot of basketball courses.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
But people then go to what's the cause of the
of the team either not caring or not liking each other?
And there are two things that come up the most.
The first one is people want to point to some event,
and I mean, if you've been around this fan base
at all, everyone has I think I've said I've been
sent over a thousand times.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
All right, Matt, don't get put this on me.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
But my friend is related to and rubber butt, and
they all tell some version of, if not the same story,
some version of a story that I just have to
tell you. From my perspective, I think is likely not
the case. I think any time a story gets that
far out, it's likely not the case. But there is
this desire to find an event that caused it. Do
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you think Drew, that there is an event or a
something that caused it? Whether it be in the Louisville
locker room or something before that, or do you think
it could just be you know, sometimes people just don't
get along and sometimes people just don't like each other.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
What do you think is the more likely scenario.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
I still struggle with this because if it was one event,
and we've heard plenty of room, that should only affect
a few people, the whole team is playing bad, like
not to just rag on everyone, but I feel like
some of these rumors we've heard, Okay, why does that
keep Brandon Garrison from jumping for a rebound? Or why
does they keep Trenton Noah from making a three?
Speaker 8 (08:15):
So that's why.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Sure, maybe something happened, but that still doesn't explain why
the whole team looks bad to me, because if it
is a one off, you know, teammate versus teammate on
something that shouldn't affect everybody, and if it does, then
Pope needs to do a better job of getting that
out of the locker room and getting everybody on the
same page. So I'm still perplexed of how the whole
team is so bad if it was one uh one thing.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
You know, there there's always been over the years and
sometimes in the Cal years this was me, and sometimes
it was Kyle Tucker. And then sometimes it would be
like with Cal, it might be like Mike the Corsi
or whatever. There's always somebody who when they say something,
you kind of know, okay, this is the message that
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the staff wants to get out right. I don't think
Pope has that guy, meaning like, there's nobody that talks that.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I say for sure that came from Mark Pope.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Probably the closest one is is Matt Norlander and probably
Jeff Goodman, although even then I don't think it comes
from Pope. I think it comes from assistance. I don't
really think Pope talks to anybody. So because of that,
I keep waiting to see from Jeff Goodman or Matt
Norland or the signal of what's really going on, and
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then nothing comes out right, which makes me even more confused,
because it does seem like.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Maybe it's just that the coaches are perplexed.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
And they have no idea why this is happening, which
is right in some ways, even worse than if we
had an explanation.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I am doing the both that something happened before that
Louisville game, because you know Pope is honest to a fault.
I don't think he would have even said that if
it's something something didn't happen on.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
The you know, but he's trying to play that down.
You don't think that that matters.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
No, I think something happened.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
I guess I don't know what it was.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
When you think something happened, because it's like logical deduction,
or do you like, is there a little Ryan Lemon's scoopyess?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
No, no, no, scoop. I I'm basing at all on
what I feel about Mark Pope. I don't think he
would have said that if something didn't happen. So what
if it's a combination of the of both. Maybe something
did happen, and it's maybe something that some of these
guys just don't like each other.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It did look to me though, Okay, so the little
bit I was around the team, which included some of
those preseason practices, in media day and even some of
the preseason events drew I will say it looked to
me like they got along then, So I mean, you know,
I don't know, And maybe when adversity hit something, we
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will always wonder what happened in that locker room. And
I think if you were going to point to a
singular event, I think that would be when it made
the most sense.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
But now you know, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
It's been a month, like it really has, Like if
it truly was like a teammate on teammate thing figured
it out. It's been a month calling in your office,
throw the boxing gloves down and say, y'all work it out.
We got bigger goals than whatever you all have going on.
It has been a month since that locker room, and
it's just getting worse. If something like that happened, it
should linger a little while, get it out of their system,
and then let's go win some basketball games.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
That's why you're here.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
And we've seen y we've.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Seen Ryan lose it before, right, Yeah, he gets that
and then he gets he's sometimes fine later that day.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, but then he holds a grudge against people too though, yeh, But.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
He doesn't hold a grudge against us. He holds a
grudge against like two.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
People, right, Well, maybe that's the two people that.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Makes it Ryan where you can't get over that, because
that has to be what this team is like.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
They're holding the grudge, they can't get over.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Being disloyal, lying to my face that that that'll get
you on my black list.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well he really, he always ring lifetime ban is a.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Lifetime ban, all right.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
So then the second thing that people say is, Okay,
the problem is all these guys are.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Making money and so they don't care anymore.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Willie Cauley Stein Drew, of all people, of all people,
put out a post almost suggesting that this morning, saying, well,
now all these guys got cars and stuff, and so
they don't care as much. I find that funny considering
really calling time's time here? Would you agree with the
hat Drew that that's at least amusing coming from him.
Speaker 8 (12:28):
Yeah, trying to be careful.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Here, Yeah, that's what I'm saying, you gotta be careing.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
I will say the cars have even improved since the Caliperi.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Cars have proved.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
The carved Now it's even Maseratis. I think back then
it was just like a BMW. Now it's Maseratis.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
But they weren't driving around Pinto's back then.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
It's just the way they were still driving good cars.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
But that doesn't explain, though, Drew, these other teams that
are making money and doing well, Like, if you want
to say it's cause of the money.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Then you have to explain to me why these other
teams do well.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
More specifically, if you want to say it's because of
the money, how do you explain when these dudes in
the NBA, you know, throw their bodies on the line, Like,
it cannot be that it is just the money. Now,
some people don't react well to money, but some people
were selfish when they were getting nothing, Like human nature
can be selfish. So I personally do not blame the
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money because there are others. I mean, Michigan's getting paid
more than anybody and they're playing great. I don't think
it's the money, Drew. I think it's the people, not
the money. Do you disagree.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
I'm with you on that because there's schools that have
had some high paying athletes who are doing exactly what
they're paid to do. And also it like if you
got money, and like, oh, if I play well, I
get money, that would get you want to play more
to get more money. Like I look at the way
and people say, oh, his mind's on the NBA.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
I'm watching him lose money by the second every time
he gets on the basketball court, because if I must say, yeah,
if I'm watching him pout and give no effort, I'm
not drafting. So if money was the motivation, I would
almost think they'd be they'd be selfish, but they'd at
least be playing hard.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, I mean might look shan.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I think there was a philosopher that said, MO, money,
MO problem right if you but if you have it,
you're gonna keep trying. I just Ryan, I don't believe
the money thing at all, because I'll give you I
use example of Michigan. Let's use Texas Tech. Okay, Texas
Tech threw massive amounts of money in their football and
basketball program. They have that booster who does all those
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stupid score Act commercials, and he's put all this money
into Texas Tech. And guess what, they're number four in
the football playoff rankings and they're in the top ten
in basketball. Why he went out and got dudes with
money and they wouldn't played hard. So that clearly worked
for him. It's not working here, and so I don't
blame the money. I blame us, our guys, our coaches.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Yeah, if the money has is a factory. If whatever
happened and for the little games of factor. It all
comes down to that roster construction.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Who you have on the.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Floor, and you're your your returning guy, You're two big
guys you were counting on. Garrison and Otega have have
done nothing really to help you much.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
I do.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Yeah, there's they're supposed to be your leaders, your stars,
your starters. But then you know you heard Pope last night,
He's coaching show. Oh take it just had the best
practice he's had in two years this week.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I have to say the room, the relentless positivity is
like would be like listening Shannon to ted Lasso after
a seven game losing streak. Like I love ted Lasso,
but sometimes I need you to like not tell me
things are positive.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
No, not everything in life is beautiful. Sometimes there's some
ugly in there, and and we saw that, we've seen it.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Yeah, Io the Coin show last night, what'd you say?
I booed the call in show last night, ed Kevin Greevy.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
Stories.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
When they start doing that, when they start bringing on
players and doing thirty minute interviews instead of taking calls,
you've already given it away right there where we are.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, let's talk about the good ol days only actually,
let's talk.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Let's let's talk about it.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I like Kevin Greevy, but when you bring on Kevin
Greevy right after a thirty five point loss, you are
saying that you don't want to talk about it, and
that's the worst way to do it with fans. I'm
just telling you they've never learned this lesson, going back
to Tubby Smith when he was broad on Jeff Shephard
right before he left. Like, you can't do it like that,
they still do it. They always make them the same
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mistake and nobody ever learns a f nine two eighth
twenty two eighty seven. We'll take a break, be right back.
This is Kentucky Sports Radio speaking to somebody who ended
up with MO problems, Channon after their MO money, the
singer of this singer of this song.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Right, that's right, Yeah, it didn't work out too well.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Have you ever watched that documentary yet? I hear it's good.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
I'm all the way through it already done, went straight
to it and beinged it. Oh. We used to have
rap song disses. They've just dissed each other with music.
Now we have full blown documentaries dissing each other. I
love it made this one bought the footage from Diddy's
people and then use it against.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Say, know that fifty bought the footage from Oh I
didn't know that company.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
Yeah, fifty swooped in and did it.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
So it's kind of like a disk documentary on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Is it on Netflix? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:18):
It's not a great look for not that any of
this has been a great look for Diddy, but somehow
it gets much worse for him with this documentary.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Really.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
All right, well, one person, So I've compiled Ryan just
a partial list of the various people who people have
texted the text machine and said they told them the
story of what's actually going on.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
All right, So these are people.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I'm not gonna say what they said, Chandon, but these
are people who people have said have told them what's
really happened.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I don't believe it, don't believe any of it.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Oh, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
But let's the question is which of these people do
you think has the best chance of knowing? Okay, this
is just in the last twenty four hours. Kenny Walker,
do you think he would know.
Speaker 8 (18:08):
He is everywhere?
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
All right, Jackson Robinson, do you think he would know?
Speaker 7 (18:15):
I won't say, no, Where's caraving around? Is he right now?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Is he Linda Gordon's top aid?
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Yeah, Drew's a big Linda Gordon fan.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
You think Linda Gordon's top aid would know.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
She's the top aids, the leader in the clubhouse.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
So far of what you've said, all right, Robert Stivers,
stud the state Senator. And then finally my favorite, this
one just came this morning. Steve Bachman of Backman Chevrolet.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Not a sponsor. Now you said Paul Miller or Paul
Miller four Now he would be man, we had to
talk about it.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
These are just the people who people have written the
text machine to say they know what's going on with
the players. I'm going to say, of all those, I'm
gonna say Steve Bachman and.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Bought Yeah, more so than Kenny Walker.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I mean, when it says it went well, Kenny's not
like he's not in practice, I mean, well, we don't.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Think the guy's like taking a break from selling cars
to go watch the practice and get in the locker room.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Well, I mean I didn't even have Linda Gordon's top
aids name, So how am I supposed to believe that
they know?
Speaker 8 (19:24):
Maybe they're operating the shadows.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Maybe the bagman guys selling them cars or something. I
don't know. Maybe maybe even you're onto something here.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Jackson Robinson's still around a lot. He has former teammates
that are on the team.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I thought Jackson Robinson would have seemed like, you know,
he would know that's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
There's right. Wouldn't Jackson Robinson know Ryan because he was
on the team.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
And not just the current players that are back. You know,
they have forty grad assistants and managers over there.
Speaker 8 (19:49):
He probably could still talk to.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Where is Jackson Robinson now? Is he in the G
League somewhere?
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Not sure he was in the Cavs system. I don't
know if he's still a part of it.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I think I haven't heard about him in long time.
All right.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
We also got yesterday Ryan the contract for will Side
YEP five point five million dollars for five years. Basically,
it's five point five and five point six and five
point seven, so it ended up averaging about five point
seven between five point seven and five point eight for
his career. If he gets fired during that time, he
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gets seventy percent of the contract paid out in the
time frame.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
It would be paid.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
So we didn't make the mistake of doing the lump
sum due within sixty days. This has kind of become
the base pay ryan for new coaches with no experience.
I think a lot of these other guys, he'll be
now one of the lower paid coaches in the SEC,
but it's kind of commiserate with his experience. Seems like
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to me a pretty good deal. The seventy percent is
kind of standard now across college football, so less than
the total, but still a significant amount of money. What
did you think of the will Stein deal?
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Well, hear and you say, that's kind of standard. I
had no idea if that was a seventy percent, if
that was a kind of the standard buyout.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
In big schools. That's become kind of the standard of
the big schools. If you don't have any leverage now
when you when you re sign they end up taking
that out. But for new coaches, that's kind of become standard.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
So hearing all that, I absolutely having zero problem with it.
You know, Kentucky got a basketball coach and a football
coach at a much cheaper rate than they had the
previous two guys, So saving some money, I guess all
the way around.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Drew, Yeah, I immediately just went to the buyout situation
making sure we didn't get got again paid out monthly.
That's much better than sixty days. Stein actually owes a lot,
as you said, if he if he were to leave,
So that was the thing I went to first. Also
noticed that the the extension, you know, his incentives. He's
got to make the playoff, not just make a bowl
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game as you know with stud win six games or
seven games. Stein's is and get to the playoff bracket.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
He gets a big bonus, but it starts with the playoff,
so it's not just about making a bawl. Now, the
second part of that is Mark stoops. Mark stoops, it
turns out extended his deal, so rather than have to
pay it immediately, they paid him four million dollars immediately immediately,
and they will pay him over the next four years
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one point seven million dollars every three months.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Shannon to not coach for the next four years.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
That's a great deal. But it's also nice of him
to do what he did for Kentucky because he couldn't
tut you know, all that money. Think about the interest
he could have made if he had all that money
up front versus spreading out one.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Point seven million dollars every three months for the next
four years at totals the thirty seven million. But as
Shannon points out, he didn't have to do that. He
could have demanded it immediately, and instead he spread it
out like that.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
So they gave him four.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Million dollars a day he did it, and then one
point seven every three months going forward. It's a lot
of money. It's especially a lot of money not to coach.
But at the same time, he didn't have to do that. Nope,
and oddly they will now end up paying him like
that one point seven. It will make it to where
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financially it's not that bad for Kentucky and Stoops didn't
have to do that.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
We'll take your calls right after this KSR. TJ.
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Speaker 2 (23:29):
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Speaker 4 (23:35):
So, Shannon, guys, I need to just before we go
to calls, one little nerve wracking thing. All right, during
the break, I just got a text message from I
got at ESPN okay, and it says, Matt, do you
want to meet this afternoon to talk about the New
Orleans Bowl. So, by the way, I am doing the
ESPN radio broadcast ride for the New Orleans Bowl, which
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is today.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yep, two weeks from today.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
And apparently I'm doing the play by play, which is
I've never done the play by play, so I mean,
of course, Drew. Perfect time to debut is on national
radio right to heavy postseason. When's the best time to
learn to do live play by play?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Then national radio with a bowl game.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Perfect time with somewhat of a local team playing. That'll
all be listening to my Sunday morning radio boss.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Say to me the other day, Shannon excited to listen
to you do the New Orleans bo.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Don't know how that's gonna go. That's exactly what he said.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
He does realize you have never done this before, so
I would exc's gonna go. The bar is probably pretty low.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I don't think he's got but let me just say,
you know, play by play is a whole other thing.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
It's not easy.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
And so the game gets announced.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
It's Western Kentucky and Southern miss I think Ryan pretty
good draw for me, right, Western Kentucky.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Couldn't have been any better for you, really to get.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Honestly, couldn't have been any better Southern Miss. As a
side note, one of the guys in my fellowship is
one of Southern Miss's biggest boosters. Oh, so I feel
like I can get some information on Southern Miss and
then Western's Western. So he writes me during the break
and he goes, I'm so and so I'm your producer
for ESPN for the.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
New Orleans Bowl.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Do you know who your stats and spotter are yet?
I don't know what that means. I've been wondering. I've
been wondering why strangers have been writing me offering to
be my spotter, because I was like, Shannon, how do
these people know who I am?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Why do they keep writing me? How do they even know?
I need a.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Spot to get somebody with binoculars who can see the game.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Turns out of ESPN has a database where they say, hey, spotters,
here's who where we need them for.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
So that's why people are writing me.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
I've been wondering, should they provide the spotter? You shouldn't,
you're the terrible spotter.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Okay, apparently I get to pick because I get to
pick one i'm comfortable with.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Here's the problem.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I don't know any of these people, So how am
I going to be comfortable with any of them?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
How do I pick?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
This is a problem.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
Who wants to be my spotterer? Like a contest?
Speaker 4 (26:13):
So I've already decided my stat's guy I'm gonna pick.
I'm gonna pick Billy.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Was he an option?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I don't think Billy was the list of may on
the list.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
But he's gonna be on the list because he went
to Western, right, so he can handle.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
That big deal.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Yes, and I'm comfortable with Billy. Billy knows how to
work with me now after the last couple of years.
But I don't think Billy can spot. So how do
I pick Drew? Who to spot?
Speaker 6 (26:41):
I mean, you're just gonna have to to get some
one on one, some FaceTime with these people, get to
know them. Can we get about their families? You need
to trust this person. They're gonna be in the fox
with you.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
You don't now if you can get Billy, you can
get Ryan as your spot.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
But I need I need at least one person in
this operation to know what the hell they're doing.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
I would definitely get sidetracked cool watching something else than
the game.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
But Ryan has done like high school football, games is ti.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Rian Ryan is literally the worst choice for the exact
reason he just said he would.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
A spotter has to see a number on a jersey
immediately know who that is.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Like, yes, exactly, they're in a you know, for eighty
one wide, Like you gotta do all that and you
know I don't know what any of that stuff means.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Shammon. Yeah, so that person I will be relying heavily.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Here's the great thing about doing radio. If you get
it wrong, nobody can call it.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
So nobody's gonna know.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
You're gonna be.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Fine, But the producers are gonna know.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Well, they don't have to tell anybody.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
But this is like, this is two weeks from today.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Are you practicing? What are you doing to get ready?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
I've practiced a little bit, but you know, I've I've
had some stuff come up, so I've been a little distracted.
Now I'm my plan is to watch, I asked. I
asked an ESPN person, I'm gonna talk to Tom Hark
this week.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
What are you laughing at?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
That might be a good start. Talk to somebody who
does this for a living, Tom Hart, Tom Lee.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
And he said to me, Tom has written me about
it too. I'm gonna get I'm gonna rely on the Toms.
They said to me to watch like the last three
or four games of these teams. So I'm gonna watch
Western and Southern Miss what I've always wanted to do. Sure,
just watch Western and Southern Miss football.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Western. You know almost bet LSU a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
There's a good place.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
That's the kind of fact I can say on the radio,
shiite Western almost bet LSU a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Now you've got three more hours to fill.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Now, what time Kentucky plays that day Kentucky plays Bellerman?
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I believe I've.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Looked at the time, Ryan, I believe the postgame show
will be ending right as this broadcast.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Comes on the air. Perfect. See see if that's correct.
What time is the bellermane?
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Get that's at one o'clock.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Exactly, So that means postgame show starts about four. The
New Orleans Bowl starts at five.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Perfect. Perfect.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
We can just we can guide everybody to tune right
into it.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, well, you don't need to be doing the post
game show. You're not doing that.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I'm not doing post games. Somebody else canna be doing that.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
I got preparing Yeah, this is the anniversary of the
New Orleans Bowl?
Speaker 8 (29:16):
Is it in any New Orleans Bowl?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
This is twenty five New Orleans Bowl.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
And you've been to Southern miss Yeah, you can talk about.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
West.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I's talk about how Nick Rash got drunk and we
had to try to get him home at the end
of the night in Hattiesburg.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
No, that's what the color commentator does. You're the playboy
play guy. You gotta stick to play by play. You
can't have personality. You got to be play by play.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
I think we're gonna have a lot of color commentary
from this broadcast.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I think so no play, very little play by play,
just be telling stories. But guys, there's a game going on.
What's happening in the game.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yeah, this may be less play by play, more code
for most of the game.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
So well, good luck.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, stats spotder you wait two weeks. I'm on need
your all support though. I need you building me up,
all right. I already had my my boss look at
me and go well this will be interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I need you all building me up, not bringing me.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Tom Leech has this big board that he puts together
with all these stats and everything. You need something like
that in front of you.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, there's somebody that can do that.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
You're spotder, Billy.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
You know Corey Price does stats for the UK people.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
He got my stats, I got, Billy. I need a
spotder and I need to figure out these people that
write me. I don't know how to pick which one.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Gets to get something. You shut up. It's gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
No, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
It's just that may be a less traditional broadcast than
what they're used to in the New Orleans Bowl.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
But people entertained how many people.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Are listening to the New Orleans Bowl on the ESPN radio.
You can't be It's gonna be more now.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I think that's why they put me, put us on,
because they think we can bring an audience and then
we'll hopefully not bomb completely.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Who's the first, Harold, Harold?
Speaker 10 (31:03):
Go ahead, Harold, Yes, I was micro call is concerned
about yesterday. Kentucky several years ago got beat at Kansas
fifty points. Yes they did, Yes, so that was the
worst offs I was just asking you. I don't know
who the coach was.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
It was Patino, it was it was Patino's first year.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
I think they went down there wasn't am I right
about that Ryan. Wasn't it Patino's first year. They went
down there and just got obliterated.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
And he kept pressing. He wasn't going to change his style.
He kept doing the same thing, and they just kept
getting the brains beat in that day.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
Yes, yeah, okay, well, thinking about your dad, hope he
gets better.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Thank you, sir. I appreciate it, appreciate the call. Yeah,
I believe that was that was the scenario.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
So, yeah, they kept pressing, kept shooting threes. They didn't
change their style of play at all.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yeah, I wish I had the same I mean, that
was his first year. This is the second year, so
it is a little bit different. What's next, Dan, Daan,
go ahead, Daan.
Speaker 11 (32:07):
Hey, guys, I think I'm the basketball front. It's a
little bit of a search for an emotional holy Grail
that's not going to be found, So I wanted to
use a different analogy. I think you four, Billy and
Mario make a really good team. And I think that
in the summer, you're all content's probably the best. Now,
imagine for two months, when the games get started, three
of you are out, and iHeartRadio executives are crapping their
(32:31):
pants because they're trying to get the same level of
quality that they would have had if three of you
are in And so they're finding some other people to
fill it, and they're expecting the same quality, the same pacing,
the same content, And I don't think that's a realistic thing.
That doesn't mean that those people aren't talented. That doesn't
mean that those people don't care. That doesn't mean that
those people aren't doing it for the money. It just
(32:52):
means that they aren't up to the talent of what
the OG team would be.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
That's not, in the same way terrible analogy. But here's
what I would say.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
That's not a terrible analogy, and I think you're I
think that's correct. However, at the center point of that is,
you know, you would have your main returner, right, like
your centerpiece of the whole thing it's built around, which
in this case might be me and in the basketball
case is Otaga. It's one thing if Otaga's not there,
(33:22):
but Otaga's there, right, and while it's never gonna be
as good without the full complementary of things if Otaga's there.
And let's say Ryan is Brandon Garrison because he's been
around for a long time and we're back, we should
be able to not produce a clunker every single big
show because at least the two returning Stallharts are there. Yeah,
(33:44):
we might not have Drew and Shannon and Mario and
we're gonna get them, but we at.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Least got those two. That was the whole centerpiece of
what we brought back.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
And if that doesn't work, then I do think you
have to go, wait a minute, what's going on?
Speaker 11 (34:00):
That's fair, but I mean, what if you had to
set up all the electronic stuff that Billy does.
Speaker 12 (34:04):
Well some of these that's a good point at some point,
Well at some point that be like a sacrificial nature
to it, right, and like it would be really frustrating,
and you wouldn't be your strengths wouldn't be at your highest.
Speaker 11 (34:17):
So I think to expect Otega to, you know, to
to every game give one hundred and fifteen percent and
think that he's just going to be smooth, I think
it's a little bit short sighted.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Fair enough, I appreciate the call, and that might not
be nice Drew to call Ryan Brandon Garrison he's beat,
He's he's.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Been better than I see it a little bit.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
And their strengths where we're similar in our size.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Okay, that's probably not.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Do you did you hear any of the scuttle butt
from the open practice they had yesterday from the.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Do you have some scuttle butt? Yes?
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Okay, well let's say Ryan's scuttle butt. But how about
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Speaker 3 (35:23):
Quarterback. Take you sports radio. All right, Drew.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
People are suggesting that we have the spotter tryouts on air.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 6 (35:30):
I said, you should have a who wants to be
my spotter contest.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
But I need somebody with experience.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Well that's what I mean.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
They gotta they gotta make their case, they gotta come on,
maybe give their background, what they're looking for when they're spotting,
what kind of binoculars they use, all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
The longtime spot at UK is a big fan of
this show, listens all the time, text me, like almost
every day during the show.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Has he texted you about this?
Speaker 7 (35:53):
Not yet?
Speaker 4 (35:55):
It feels like this would have been a good time
to text you, Like if time listener of this show.
Like literally, if I listen to this show all the
time and I was a spotterer for UK and I
texted Ryan every day during the show, feels like, Shaanea,
this would have been the day.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
To text Yeah, if you ever wanted to do it
right now.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Maybe he just doesn't want to do it, Yeah, exactly.
He's like, I don't want to go down with that ship.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I don't want to tie my good name to this
train wreck of a show.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
I'm making this good no matter what, even if it
just has to be me and Myron taking calls during the.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I don't think it works that way.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Why not you just take it?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
You're we completely revolutionize the way they call football.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, we just completely act like the game's not even
going on. We completely ignore the game honestly, we'll give
you a score update.
Speaker 8 (36:47):
Every now and then. I can hear it now.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
In the second half, Matt turns to to Myron and says, so,
who are the famous athletes from New Orleans and all
the usual things we do on the show when we're
in New cities, Patties bur you.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Know our friends about me.
Speaker 13 (37:05):
It's gonna be Myron, that is, I'm gonna go, you know,
Montana Grill and Bowling Green. I really like it to
eat there sometimes, Corvette Museum, Right, should I bring up
that Bowler Green has more people per happiness on ozimpic.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Is important.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I feel like that should be on there, don't you.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I mean, we need to know the cities. We need
to know the cities that are playing.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Know the places.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
Yeah for the looms and Bowling Green.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
You can talk about bring in special gas from all
these hill billy gims from Bowling Green.
Speaker 13 (37:37):
Right, Yeah, I'm breaking the country boy boy, country boy.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
It's it's gonna be a great game.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
You can just bust into song of all those.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
New Orleans bowl has never seen anything like this. Who's next, Pete, Pete,
go ahead, Pete.
Speaker 9 (37:56):
Hey, guys, I got a little story about most Tlana Central,
originally from Owensboro. I went to go play soccer to
Tney College in front Roll of Virginia and ended up
playing basketball there as well. Tiny school like five hundred undergred.
My junior year, we play at North Carolina Central and
we lose one hundred and sixteen to thirty eight, and.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Well, you're gonna be on the schedule next year.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Your team's gonna play Mark Pope's gonna play you guys
next year to make sure that we win.
Speaker 9 (38:26):
I had two threes that game at in Durham, So
if they if the Cats need me tonight, I can
come by and probably toss.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Up a few.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Well, appreciate to call. Do we know anything, Drew? You're
pretty good about knowing these teams. What do we know
about North Carolina Central tonight?
Speaker 8 (38:41):
What do I not know about North Carolina Central?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Map?
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Okay, I actually got a little bit scared. I saw
they beat Carolina about one by forty points, one hundred
and nine to something. But I realize it's not North Carolina.
There's a school just called Carolina. Did you know that?
They don't even have a page on ESPN.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
There's a school just called Carolina, not even which stay.
Speaker 8 (39:00):
No, they in C Central.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Where is that?
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (39:05):
I think it's I'll have to look that up.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
You can't even click on their on their page on
ESPN dot com.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Wow, I didn't, I mean I lived there. I didn't
know there was a school just called Caroline.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
Beat him by forty five. It's our common opponent is
Winston Salem.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Yeh, I been driven through Winston Salem a thousand times.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 8 (39:24):
But go ahead really threw me off too.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
They played UNC and lost by uh forty four. That's
our common opponent. They do have a star player, Gauge
Latimore I believe is his name, shooting like forty five
percent from three and getting twenty points a game. I
actually wonder, well, I was wondering if he could just
maybe come over to our team. I don't know, there's
not really rules anymore.
Speaker 8 (39:47):
But he's a bucket.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
He's just like we could use him.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
Yeah, they go as he goes. He's first time at
this level. He was at another school that doesn't even
have an ESPN page last year from like D three.
So he's the name to watch, but they're not good.
Amore Rake three hundred and fiftieth out of three hundred
and sixty five teams on Kim Pumpkins, we are a
forty five scheduled.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
I mean, we have scheduled the lowest of the low
this year. We would be interesting to see Ryan, what
would happen if we played like Minnesota, right, I mean,
because all the teams we've played have been top twenty
or awful yep, Like we've not played because so it's
hard for me to know how are we gonna do
in the SEC against teams like Mississippi State because everybody
(40:30):
we've played is either really good or awful, And so
you know this is gonna be another like we're and
we're that's all we're playing until not until conference played.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
So I know when we play Alabama we're gonna struggle.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
But how are we gonna do against like Old miss
or how are we gonna do against Vandy?
Speaker 3 (40:46):
That's the thing we don't know yet.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
You're exactly right, and our sample size we have to
go on is not good. We the teams you're supposed
to beat, you're beating the bad the teams are that
are competitive.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
You're getting drilled.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
So the teams that we're getting drilled by are really good.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Teams mississips Michigan State ends up being fantastic, and we
thought that might be the easiest of the six games.
Speaker 6 (41:06):
Remember and three of our five wins. They're ranked three
hundred and twentieth or worse. Like that's hard to.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Get a read on anything.
Speaker 8 (41:15):
That Saturday they're aught to be a little bit of
a skid though.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
They've had two bad losses and they're starting to get
me after a front start.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Saturday they did it will not be good if we don't.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Now, you've got a doctor's appointment here, right, so you're
leaving correct?
Speaker 7 (41:31):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (41:35):
They had Big Blue United in for an open practice yesterday.
I'll give you the quick three to three hits. One
you never could tell they don't like each other. They
seem like they one hundred percent liked each other and
got along well. Two Cam Williams and Trenton Noah did
not miss a shot the entire practice.
Speaker 7 (41:49):
He did not miss.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
And three Jaden Quainton's practice a lot against Rhese Potter
going one on one with him and he looks like
a man child.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
I mean, those are all good things, but I don't
know is that encouraging. I wish they would make them
in the game for tonight, maybe so.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Pregame show starts at four point thirty four and Ryan,
we'll be back for that. We will come back our
number two. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.
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