December 16, 2025 • 42 mins
Matt and Shannon are joined by Myron Medcalf to talk Kentucky Basketball and take your calls.
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Speaker 5 (00:35):
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call TJ. He'll make them pay. Weird day today, all right,
Ryan out, Drew's out. Shannon is here. So we decided
to bring on some people uh to it to sit
with us. Myron Metcalf of ESPN is here for the
first hour. Adam Luckett will talk some football in the
second hour, but Myron is in Minneapolis, the co host
(01:18):
of Matt Myron on Sunday Mornings with Me. Myron, thank
you for joining us on such short notice.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, nah, thank you for having me.
Speaker 6 (01:26):
Man.
Speaker 7 (01:26):
How hi was I on the list of people you
were thinking about it? You were the first, because I
felt like I was like seventh a little bit based
on the tens F I didn't know you were first.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
We just had we knew Ryan was gonna be gone.
Drew is having like Drew and this has happened to me.
Have you ever had the back problems where your back
just locks up and you can't move. Drew is having
that right now. So he can't he he can't like
he barely got in here yesterday and like he can't move.
And when as soon as Drew was out and I
knew Ryan was out, I was like this, it's Myron time.
Speaker 7 (01:58):
Yeah, okay, good, I'm just making sure I was pretty
high on the list. Hope everybody is good.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Though.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Back problems are no joke. At all, but glad to
be here. Man.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
No, I think he's good. Now, Myron of course, and
I of course do Sunday mornings. Uh, we're gonna call
a bowl game together, Shannon, which we may practice a
little bit of today.
Speaker 8 (02:14):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I know you never done play by play, Myron.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Have you ever done a color commentary for a game
for a football color?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
What color commentary?
Speaker 8 (02:21):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (02:21):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I've done not football. I've done basketball.
I've done commentary, I've done play by.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That's very they are chanted.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
That's a different sport, that's true, much difficult, much experience, though,
it's much different resumes I've done.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I've done games, and I've done a ton of sideline.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Are you nervous about the fact that I've never done
play by play and you've never done color for a
football game, and we're doing it in a national broadcast?
Does that make you at all nervous?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Wait? I thought you told me you had done play
by play? You haven't. You haven't.
Speaker 7 (02:50):
I thought you said when we first talked that maybe
you've done it before. I mean, it is nice to
think I said that, But but.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I did. I wasn't nervous, No, really nervous. I mean,
but I've watched football. I've seen chanting. I've seen plays
happen one after another.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Sure, you want to put your good name on the line.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
That listen, if they put us on they know what
they're getting. I just I've been working on catchphrases, catchphrases,
not just hard.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But do you have a catchphrase? I got a couple
of them. Okay, you want to test out his catch phrases?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Here, I've got one right here. I can play back
for him.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Let's play one of his catch phrase. All right, Okay,
tell your friends about me.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
That's that's that's you say that for later in the
game though, that's like one of my premiere.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Okay, you don't bring that out. You don't do the
that's like the fourth quarter, big big Western Kentucky play.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Tell your friends that's a yeah, that's that's later in
the game.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
You know, that's like a fourth quarter somebody makes a
big play in a close game, then you you throw
that out there.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I see what you all think of this idea.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
I had an idea, Shannon, that since I have not
done it long enough to have catchphrase, that I would
give a tribute to all the great announcers by using
their catch phrases during the game. Not consistently, Shannon, but
like it's like it's like little almost tributes throughout the game.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
Yeah, you gotta be careful about that. Lightly, I just
got you don't want to overdo it. I would use game.
I would only do it once again. So let's say
game starts, Southern Miss has the ball. I'll say about
Western Kentucky, Shannon, they opened up.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Man, now you're using a basketball. I don't know. Yeah,
I don't know football. You don't think I do that.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
No, I don't think. I don't think that. I don't think. Well,
commentators are really like they don't like that. Like commentators
are really protective of their catchphrases.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
So I wrestlers are like that. They are and they
don't like you to use their finishing moves. Yeah, so
you gotta be careful about That's one year.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
What's one you've considered? So, like, let's say there's a
big catch. I call a big catch.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, looks, don't make me call things, and this is
what we actually, this is what we have to do that.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Until I'm ready to call them. But we could just say,
you know, Philip Rivers deep ball to shading griggs Be
thirty one yards. That ball stuck to his hands like
peanut butter to jelly.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Mat No, I can't wait. Wait a minute. That wasn't
That wasn't That was bad? Was that bad? It wasn't good?
That well, it's bad. It shut up.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
It's just it felt like a little for give me,
it felt like just it just felt like a regular,
like a joe.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
Yeah, let me be a little more natural, give it,
give it to him again. Let me be a little
more natural, and I'll do it the way I'll really
do it.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Philip Rivers drops back to past Griggsby's open catches for
thirty one yards.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
Down the sideline, Matt great hands by that young man
stuck to his hands like peanut butter to jelly.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Better, I'm throw it away.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
It's the content, it's the delivery. The delivery was better.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
The delivery is not good.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Better the second time, I agree, the delivery seemed more
natural second time.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Yeah, a lot of my catchphrases involved peanut butter and jelly.
Should I change that up? Because that's maybe my problem?
Like I couldn't like a lot of it's peanut butter
and Jelly. I think I gotta maybe come up and
I think you can.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Only do one line ship And wouldn't you agree peanut
butter in jail?
Speaker 7 (07:00):
We can't have every catchphrase be up Butter than Joe.
I've got three three per half Peter Butter. I just
I gotta come up some new stuff. Isn't gonna go with?
I mean, that's just kind of this is not gonna
go with.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
It was already off the rills.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
You know what, We're gonna do a great job. I'm
one hundred per confident we're gonna do uh, We're gonna do.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
It extuply regardless.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
It will be entertaining.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Even if I just end up making fun of Myron
the whole time, it'll be entertaining.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I wanted to bring you on.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Here to talk a little bit, in addition to having fun,
talk a little bit about basketball. And you're so, how
long you been covering basketball for ESPN?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Byron? What?
Speaker 8 (07:38):
What?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well?
Speaker 7 (07:39):
How long has it been? Fifteen years with ESPN? Almost
twenty overall?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Twenty years?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Okay, so you you probably you've said before Kentucky fans,
when you write something for ESPN, isn't it the case?
And you tell me if I'm wrong that Kentucky articles
do better on ESPN than anything else.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Yeah, I mean the traffic is I mean, I don't
know what I can say about the traf's the the
audience at Kentucky is different than I would say any
other audience in college basketball.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I mean, I think that's pretty obvious. Is that by
substantial margin?
Speaker 7 (08:18):
Yeah, I mean I think anything Kentucky related is the biggest.
I mean I think it's almost like Cowboys in the NFL,
Like people are always like, why do you always talk about
the Cowboys on ESPN? Because the numbers show that people
tune in when you talk about the Cowboys, whether people
like it or not. So I think Kentucky is that
in college So.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
When you so so, the point being, you guys all
will end up following Kentucky quite a bit. When you've
watched Kentucky this year as a neutral, third party observer,
what has been your your conclusion about the team?
Speaker 7 (08:55):
Well, I mean we actually were talking about this the
other day because we're trying to figure out a trip
to Kentucky. Uh, We're trying to figure out kut what
the story is with Kentucky. They just seem disconnected you know,
And I think that to me is probably the most
obvious thing in their losses. I think even saw in
the first half early against Indiana, they just don't seem
like they're in sync. Like to me, I don't think
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in my time covering basketball that I've ever covered a
team where you didn't know definitively who your number one,
number two, number three options were.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Like, I feel like this.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
Is a team that feels like there are seven guys
that think they're the number one or two options and
that just never works. No team has ever had that
situation in one big Like, at some point you got
to figure out who's the guy, and you also just
have to realize your strengths. And I think Barkley did
a good job talking about this in the Indianay too.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I thought he's surprisingly for a guy who clearly had.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Never seen them play. I actually thought he did a
good job of pointing out the deficiencies.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
But I think this is why, and again, the analytics
era is incredible. I think we get a lot of
information the analytics that have changed the way that we
see basketball. I also think we get obsessed with the
numbers sometimes that you can't do the basic things, and
it wasn't hard to look at that team and go,
wait a minute, Yes they're missing shots, but why aren't
guys rebounding?
Speaker 8 (10:14):
Like?
Speaker 7 (10:14):
Why are guys getting back on defense? Whying guys making
the extra pass? Like the stuff that I felt like
has been wrong in Kentucky is very elementary and fundamental,
and I think Indiana and the second half they kind
of figure some things out, but it's been disappointing overall.
And I think you got to put that on Mark Pope.
He said this is what he wanted. He knew the expectations.
Now you got to deal with it.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Do you think it was a poorly assembled team?
Speaker 7 (10:38):
This is not Major League Baseball, it's not the NBA,
it's not the NFL. So my challenge with poorly assembled
is I think it's very difficult in this era to
have all the right pieces for any team Like Kansas
last year had all these great transfers, it didn't work.
There's been a lot of teams North Carolina, North Carolina,
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a lot of teams have put these team together and
it just hasn't worked because it's more complicated than fifteen
points per game. I think the numbers have made people
nationally go, well, wait a minute, you can't spend that
amount of money and not figure it out. But the
teams that I know that haven't worked behind the scenes,
and I don't care what I know. Mark Pope and
others are saying there's nothing wrong. The teams that haven't
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worked behind the scenes just don't really vibe with each
other like I do these stories, Matt. I've done them
for fifteen years, where you go hang out with a team,
and the teams that like each other, you can see it.
The teams that vibe together, you can see it. And
I just haven't seen that with Kentucky yet. I have
a lot of people saying that there's nothing wrong, but
I don't see it so far. Now, Shannon that Mark
Pope on his showlet yesterday. Yeah, he said two things
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I thought were reporting. One he said, this team is
still going to be a really good shooting team.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You believe that, No, I.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Don't, because we're not three or four games in. We're
eleven games in, and they still have not shown that
they can shoot the ball. And it's like they do,
you know, they shoot the ball well in practice, but
that's not translating to end the game.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I don't care how they.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Shoot in practice, I don't care about what I'm seeing,
and it's not good.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
And then the second thing he said is he's been
he's been speaking with a lower tone of voice recently,
and it's led some fans to say that I want
my coach to have emotion. But Myron he said yesterday
that he yelled so much for a month that his
doctors have told him he's not allowed to scream until
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after New Year's, that he has to that he he
is going to like ruin his voice, and so that's
why he's not yelling, is he's not allowed to yell
until after New Year's.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
What's your thought on that? Yeah, I didn't understand that.
I mean the Brandon Garrison when he yelled at him
to get on the bitch. That was the first time
I think I've ever seen Mark Pop yell. You know,
I don't know that I'm in practice.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I've seen him yell in practice, like not liking an
ang He just yells, like you know how I mean,
I talk with power in my voice.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, he just yells.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
I think sometimes when he talks, not in an angry way,
just that's how he communicates. Do you think he can
go weeks without yelling. I don't think he'll go a
day with that. I mean like he's been very monotone.
I mean he's been very monotone recently.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
We didn't have a coach on vocal rest.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
He's not Mariah Carrey, no, right, I mean like, I
don't care if he doesn't have a voice.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
At the end of the year, I need my coach
doing what it needs.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
You want him no matter what, even if he even
if his vocal.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
That's what it takes.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Sometimes sometimes you need a second opinion, right, Like the
guys go and get ACL six, Go find a doctor
who will let you yell. You know, there's a doctor
out there who will let you do it. But your
general okay, yeah, there will. I think in general though,
I think with Mark Polpe and I told you this
on the show, he's really smart. Like he's smarter than
any coach probably at college basketball, in terms of if
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he didn't have basketball, he'd be okay. And the guy
went to medical school, and I think that's a cool thing. Sometimes, however,
without even trying, you can sound like you're trying to
be smarter than everybody else. And I don't think Mark
Pope is doing that, but his delivery his intellect in
moments like this, So they could be somewhat of a
turn off to people sometimes because you're like, hey, man,
just talk to us, Man, just talk to.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Us about coach. Who's the dumbest coaching? I mean nobody
shan't nobody. I don't think.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
I don't just say if you were this. Okay, let's
not say that's not true. I've talked to you private.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Who's the least who is the one that.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Would be least likely to go to med's school? Okay,
you said you said Mark Pope went to med school.
Which coach of a big time program is least likely
to go to med school? Okay, this is not about intellect. Okay, right,
we're gonna get an answer. I like this, who's least
likely to go to med school? This is not about intellect.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
Mick Cronin probably ends up fighting a professor, would sue,
you know what I mean, So like you won't do it.
He probably can't just say which one is not can't
get into med school? So you want me to name
a coach that you just said who's the dumbest coach?
And then a week from now, maybe I have to
call that coach.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Isn't that what we want? Yeah, thats what we all want.
That's what we want.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Yeah, I'll let you tell. I'll let you headle that
you named the coach, but I don't know him.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You know them?
Speaker 5 (15:14):
If I'm eighty seven, text machine is seven seven two
seven seven four five two five four. Could you go
weeks without yelling? I think I could, but I don't
know if like a Shannon could. I think all of
us could. I don't know if you could. If you're
a basketball I'm not a yeller. I don't just y know.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I means that.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Would be very, very difficult. We'll take a break. Very back, KSR,
welcome back. Take you sports radio text machine seven seven
two seven seven four five two five four one person rights, Matt,
did you practice during Monday night football last night? I did, Channon,
I put it on mute yep and just called about
a quarter of the game.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
How do you feel about it? You have more confidence?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Really awkward, felt really awkward at first, but as it
went on started to get you know, I didn't have
like meyron there to kind of play off of, so
like I'd do it and then there'd be silence. Yeah,
and talking to yourself out loud is weird, like like
it's it's weird to just talk to yourself out loud.
But uh, but I but I got more used to it,
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and I'm gonna I'm gonna keep I'm doing one game
every night for the next for the next week.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
But myron, so I feel better about it.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Yeah, I mean, but you know, the best commentators, that's
that's honestly what they do. So I was at a
game once where Gus Johnson and I was staying at
the same hotel before a basketball game that he was calling,
and I get ready to drive to the game and
Gus Johnson is in the parking lot calling.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
This imaginary game.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
I kid you outside, he's outside of his car, He's yelling,
he's jumping like he's doing Oh. It was almost like
knowing e powerful voice he was doing the Gus Johnson
calls invoice standing in a parking lot in the middle
of Indiana doing all of his calls two hours before
the game.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
But like, I think that's how locked in you have
to be, uh to kind of play that role well.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
And as we said, like they wouldn't have hired me
ad Myron to be like real announcers, like they're expecting
us to be to be to be us. One person writes, Matt,
it's nice to have Matt Jones and Black Jones on
the same show. That's what you called yourself right when
I was gone.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Yeah, when we hang out without you, Yeah, it's a
fun show. Like it's like your parents give you the
keys to the house for the weekend because they gotta
go away. We gotta just do our things. So yeah,
Black Jones, let's waffle house. Oh man, So many conversations
about how there.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
One person writes, Matt, you, uh, were gonna try to
get Myron in trouble by talking about the coaches. So
I'll ask him one, what's it like actually working with
Matt behind the scenes?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Is he difficult? All right? There you go? Is that?
What do you think? How would you answer that Myron
to find difficult? Was that? What do they mean?
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Answer it however you want. It's fine, Mat and I
are good. I don't have any issue. I mean, there
was devil a period where I felt like we would
have screaming matches, like eight minutes before we had to
start a show and we figure it out.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
But nah, we we can sometimes shan and literally be
yelling at each other and then they go thirty seconds
and we turn it off and we'd be fine.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It sounds like a perfectly normal, healthy relationship to me.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
I mean, next week, that could be some of that. Like,
that could be a little bit of that next week.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
He's a little stubborn, Shannon in a way that you like,
he's a little stubborn like you guys. If I say
we're gonna do this, y'all are like, we're doing it.
Myron sometimes is like, we're not doing that.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
You're a little stubborn.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Though, wait, I mean that's true Matt.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
So so we have a running joke like before Mattle
Jump on the pre show, we'll start to plan the show,
but and we always are like, well, Matt might change
all this, because you know, Matt likes to be organized
and he likes to call the shots.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And move things around.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
One first writes, Myron needs to know peanut butter doesn't
stick to jelly.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
It actually sticks to bread.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
The whole thing up because he's because he said peanut
but like peanut butter stuck to jelly.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Do you put your jelly Peter.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, I gotta start actually sticks to the bread. I
gotta start from scratch. No, I gotta I got a
bunch of peanut butter and jelly catch raises.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
I gotta go back to the gotta go back to
the draw your jelly.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
This uh.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
For Louisville's Bowl game against Toledo, the Boca Ratone Bowl,
you can get into the game for free.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
If you bring a ca of baked beans to the game.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Why do they want baked beans?
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Because it is the Baked Bean Bow it is sponsored
by Bush's Baked Beans. But I don't understand why Bush's
Baked Beans would need more baked.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Beans because they want more money and then that gets
you into the game.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Well, concessions are gonna be ridiculous. I bet they're gonna
make a lot of money, probably off concession. I don't
know if you want to let people in Florida in
for free, I mean, like there's gonna be a whole
that's gonna be a different kind of crowd.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Man.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Well, I think they probably for Louisville to security situation,
they probably need to get people in the stadium however
they can. But I do like the idea that if
you bring a can of beans to the game, you
get in for free. That's Bush's bake beans, only be
the company that has sponsored it. Yah see, there's gonna
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be a problem at the door.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Somebody's gonna bring some baked beans that are not bushes,
and it's gonna be a conflict.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
So you can guarantee a bowl game for essentially one
two dollars and fifty cents or I don't know how much.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
How much is it can mean two dollars, three dollars?
Are you all that rich that you've never been to
a grocery store? It's cass had That is cass Hard.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
That's successful that you have never been to a grocery store,
and I haven't.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I haven't bought beans in a while. Let's go to Josh.
Go ahead, Josh, that's okay, Hello, Jish, Yeah, okay, Hey,
I want to.
Speaker 9 (21:29):
Give a quick happy birthday shut out to Kentucky unforgettable
Darren Fieldhouse.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Happy birthday? Darren? Is your name? Jish?
Speaker 9 (21:39):
Oh No, it's a nickname, nick.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Okay, got all right? Cool? Go ahead.
Speaker 9 (21:45):
So while I'm on the Fieldhouse topic, Belmont's coming in
Man and they're robbing the state of Kentucky. I feel
like Jake Fieldhouse is having a tremendous season at mass Essential.
I think it's something. I mean, who's Mark Pope getting
next year as a freshman?
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Well, I mean it is a good question about who
he's getting. I'm not sure that I appreciate the call
that that that the answer is from Madison Central, although
that kid is playing well. But Myron, do you are
you worried about Mark Pope's recruiting? Still no commitments for
next year?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I don't know. I feel like there's a divide right there.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
The they're the and I think Kentucky's one of the
programs a lot like I'll say North Carolina, maybe Kansas,
where there's this idea of even in the portal era,
you still want to go after top prospects, right But
I think but Dwayne top prospects Carolina is Kansas is
the only team that has in is Kentucky. Yeah, I
think this year has been unique with freshmen, right, Like
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the freshman classes have not looked like this in past years.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
If you tell me time, we got to break here
real quick, We'll take a break. Be right back. It's
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Speaker 5 (23:03):
He'll make them.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
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Speaker 4 (23:08):
Here's Matt Jones.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
This was for me.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I know, I appreciate that a lot of people don't
know this. I bet no one else knows this song
except me and you.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
What was this? Uh space ghosts? And this is brack
that's right, singing about beans.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Singing about beans. That's right. Beans.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
By the way, Myron, two dollars and thirty nine cents,
so you can you know, it's only the first two
thousand people that get in to the Boca Ratone Bowl
with with two dollars.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And thirty nine cent beans.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
Once you get past nineteen hundred, it's gonna be a
fight in that In that line, you're gonna be skipping.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
People skipping will end up in a bowl game where
they're playing Toledo for beans.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Like they were like though they were going in the playoff. Literally,
that's a classic line man.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Move away from the play off to playing Bledo for
baked beans.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
That's true, that's true. Is this the Old West? Shannon?
What's happening to?
Speaker 4 (24:09):
These ball games are ridiculous? Anyway?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I love them, but I have to say, what person rights?
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Does Myron know that his play by play guy just
learned yesterday that referees wear white hats.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Yeah, we got some stuff we gonna have to figure
out that. No, I think I'm curious, Matt, what the
meeting is gonna be like, because you know, before these
broadcasts and I've done a bunch of ESPN games, there's
like a big meeting where everyone kind of walks through
the game. Like, I wonder what that's gonna be like.
You know how how the people with us are gonna
feel well, they're.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Gonna have to get over it.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
What person says, Matt, I've been doing play by play
for thirty five years from my local high school. I
cannot imagine doing your first play by play game on
national radio. I feel like you could do it, but
I would be nervous as can be. Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I appreciate it's gonna make you feel better about the situation.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Nah.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
No, man, I've done my first play by player on
ESPN National TV and it went okay. Like the good
thing about production, I will say this because I've done
games is we're gonna get a lot of help, Like
there are a lot of smart people who are going
to be around us, who are gonna make it pretty easy.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Well, Billy got both. Billy got bumped. You stat, he
can't go, So I got it. I'm talking to my
new stat guy after the show, which I wanted Billy
to go. But probably the new guy will know more
about what's going on.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
But you don't know the new guy like you think.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
That's true. I'm meeting him. His name is Kirk. And
do you know him? Do you know Kirk? The stack guy?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Myron? How would I know him?
Speaker 6 (25:41):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
That's that's all you have? Is that all you done?
Last name? The stats for games? So where for? Who?
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Who does he work for ESPN? Maybe I've maybe I've
worked with him. We'll be embarrassing for it if he
gets down here. Uh and he and he does it?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Know him? Tonight Tennessee plays Louisville. Who do we root for? Shannon?
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Who? Well?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I think we got to stay with the conference. You
know the SEC, So I think we gotta pull for
Tennessee to beat Louisville.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Tennessee's lost three straight games, they're playing at home. This
could be their fourth straight loss. I'm kind of with you,
I guess I have to pull for Tennessee. Who's gonna
win Myron.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
I'll probably picked Louisville, I think in this one. I
mean Mike cul Brown junior uh is pretty good. Uh.
And I think Tennessee Nate Amen has been off. He's
had a lot of up and down performances. Like Tennessee's
challenges is basically Jacobe Gillespie Nate Amen. And if they
can't score forty combined, Tennessee has a hard time within him.
They lost to Syracuse, and I don't think Syracuse is great.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Yeah, and then Syracuse like Costra or something, didn't They
lost to hog Street.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Yeah, so the Florida Tennessee is pretty low. Yeah, I
think Tennessee that was an awful loss to Syracuse. Joe,
go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Yeah. Hey, guys, something interesting from the IU game. When
you look at the box score, Kentucky actually lost the
rebounding margins. Now, I think we got every rebound that mattered,
all the fifty to fifty balls from an effort.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Well, a couple things about that, though you're talking total rebounds,
I would say two things. One you may remember they
got like five or six rebounds at the end of
the game when they were shooting desperation threes.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
You remember in that last minute too.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
But I think the biggest part of that is the
free is the free throws. We missed seven free throws
that they rebounded and they only missed one that we rebounded.
So that's a six rebound difference right there, really just
on free throws which aren't even really contested.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Okay, yeah, that's fair, that's fair, and appreciate that point.
And one more thing. As you guys were talking, I
think you guys have hit the nail on the head
of this Kentucky team from shooting to you know, team
gelling together whatnot. Jasper Johnson only played three minutes. Now,
I know Hope trunk the lineup down, But to Jaster
Johnson's credit, I watched him. He was standing on the
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sideline coaching his team, clapping, pointing things out like it
was really kind of nice to see with jo Landlow
getting that spotlight and really carrying the team through that
second half.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
I actually agree with you about Jasper. You were about
to appreciate the call. You were about to say something
marred about the rebounds. We got to teach people about
the rebinding war like. One of the challenges is we
use sometimes like this old school terminology. I think what
Matt is most people talking about rebounding, like in terms
of off of the rebounds. Kentucky actually won that battle.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
Fourteen day grabbed like yeah, but they grabbed thirty three
percent of their misshots, which is a higher percentage than
what Indiana did. I think the other thing with the
free throw attempts, I think that's how they have to
play like. This is a Kentucky team that hasn't been
great about getting to the line. They got to the
free throw line against Indiana and that put them in
a position to win. And I think the other thing
Cope yesterday said, we all said after the game in
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the second half, Kentucky's gonna have to play like that.
I heard Terrence Oglesby on Field of sixty eight say
Kentucky's got to play like they did in the second half.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Charles Barkley said it.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Mark Pope yesterday said, Myron, we don't want to play
like that. We did it because we had to to
win that game, but we don't want to play that
kind of messy, gritty style. That's not what this team is.
I kind of disagree with him, what about you.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
Well, unless he's making a move at the trade deadline,
this is what he has so so I don't really
know what that means. Like like, Kentucky to me is
a team that has to play around the basket, try
to score and transition. The turnover thing is a big
part that people aren't talking enough about. Four turnovers in
that Indiana game matters a lot. But you don't have
a bunch of shooters.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
We had four, they had eighteen. That's a huge difference.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
You gotta be a great defensive team, which I think
they can be, and you gotta win ugly on offense.
You don't have a bunch of shooters who can spread
the floor and beat the Golden State Warriors. Everyone can't
do that, and that's okay, and that's what this team is. Yeah,
let's go to eight nine two, eight, twenty three, eighty seven.
Couple open lines. It's a good chance to get in.
Go to will, go ahead and will, Hey.
Speaker 10 (30:05):
Fellas, thanks again for taking my call. I was not
expecting to get on three days in a row after
never calling your.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
Guys show, So shout.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Out first of all, like three days in a row.
I had no idea, how did you get in.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Three days in a row if it's Tuesday.
Speaker 10 (30:24):
Because because I was gonna say, man, well, I was
gonna say I was on Friday. That was my first
call ever, and I started ranting about Mike Lee.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
And he didn't want to.
Speaker 10 (30:35):
No, it wasn't hey. And I also wanted to say,
shout out Myron. It's good to have a football perspective
and an outside perspective. Talking about UK basketball also furthers
my Mike Leachs point I made on Friday.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
By the way, well you know I was the head
college basketball reporter.
Speaker 10 (30:52):
Well shoot, I thought he did some football. But anyway,
also I did want Also I listened to the other
day he made the correlation between Dusty May and he
wanted a football coach at Michigan similar to their basketball coach.
So I felt validated. But anyway, I did want to
say something. I think Mark Cope is having trouble with
recruiting right now because he cannot promise the guy that
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they're going to be the alpha on this team.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
He cannot promise the guy thirty five game guy.
Speaker 10 (31:23):
Does That's what and that's I think what's holding him back.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
He needs to promise.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Guy Wills a lot. There's a lot of words that
come out of Will's mouth when he talks. You know
what I mean, it's it's it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Maybe maybe take a day off, Will.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
Do you want one but to it? But one thing
he said that is interesting. Do you want your best
player to be a freshman in this era?
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Well, I don't know. I mean, it depends on who
the freshman is. I mean, Cameron Boozer is Duke's best
player and they're really good. Darius Acuff is probably arkansas
best player and they're playing well. I think it just
don't you think, Myron. It just depends on who the
freshman is. I don't think you can win if you
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have a secondary freshman is your best player. But I
still think. I mean, the Duke was the best team
in the country last year. They lost, but they're their
two best players were freshmen.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
But I think you knowled it right, Like we have
the problem with the rankings is that there are suddenly
fifty eight five star recruits, which it wasn't that way
twenty years ago. Right, that's true. If you get one
of the five or six guys you're talking about, I'm
with you. If you have seven through twenty eight, that's
a different ball game.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
But that was Cali Perry's thing is in the early
col years, his best player was one through six, and
then in the later years it was seven through thirteen.
And that's a big difference, Byron, between having John wall
Is your best player or Anthony Davis or Carl Towns
and having BJ Boston as your best player. It's just
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a different level of skill.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Yeah, once you get outside the top five, you have
a better chance of getting somebody in a portal who's
as good or better than that player coming in, and
that that's the challenge. There's five guys you want every
year and beyond that, but what amina is last year
in the portal. A lot of those guys have ended
up good but not great.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Yaxel has really been the only one of those top
seven guys who is leading a great team to success.
A lot of these other teams are winning with guys
that they kept in house, and I just think that's
kind of interesting. It's gonna be interesting to see what
works in the portal era. I think there's gonna be
a lot of different ways, uh to what's the phrase, Shannon,
(33:41):
There are many different ways to skin a cat, to
cook the pie.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
To cook the something. I don't think it's cooking. Is
there another one about cooking? There's one about cooking. I
think it's in a cat.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
There's only one way to cook a pie. I mean
it's in the recipe.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
What kind of pie were talking about?
Speaker 7 (33:57):
I don't think one other way with there be to
do besides making assumptions about the kind of poe.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
You know, we got air flyers and there was a
time when we didn't have ovens. I don't know, put
it over a fire. There's different ways to cook a pot,
so I don't think you can make a suck.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
I would argue. There may only be one way to
skin a cat. I don't know how, But who's skinning
cat on?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
Yeah, is that something we're still saying twenty times. It
does feel a little bit problematic, but.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
It's shame and it feels widely problematic, but I'm not
sure why it does.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, maybe we should let that one go.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
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me she's getting one of these Duffel bags from there
for me for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Oh yeah. She was like, there are six colors, which
one do you want?
Speaker 5 (35:06):
And I was like whatever, whichever one was, Like, would
you like this level of the brown or this? I
don't know, you know, like I just get do you
do you have an opinion of which brown you want?
Speaker 10 (35:17):
No?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
I thought there was just leather brown.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I mean, yeah, I don't know multiple browns. Yeah, there's brown.
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
I got to learn how to wrap gifts. I try
to watch YouTube video and I don't know how to
do it.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
That's another thing I don't know.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I was doing the same thing.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
I'll just get bags and put the little fluffy paper
there you go.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Yeah, but they say bags are informal. Though they say
bags are like not, they're informal. That's how people some
people see it. Bags well versus gift. I think people
expect it from me. They're lucky they get the bag.
We'll take a break of right backs. Canentuck you sports radio?
Welcome back?
Speaker 5 (35:53):
I tell you sports radio if I'm notine two eighth
twenty two eighty seven. Uh, text machine is seven seven
two seven to seven four or five two five four?
One person rights, I'm have to start listening to you
and Myron on Sunday mornings. Myron seems like a really
great guy. That's a lot of fun. How about that?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
That's nice?
Speaker 7 (36:11):
Oh yeah, I appreciate that. Now I get a lot
of love and support when I fill in. Uh here,
so now you know me.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Another person rights. I need Myron to not do the catchphrases.
I love him, and I think they're not gonna work.
But I do have to say, in the similar way
that people want to see a car wreck, I need
to hear his other peanut butter and jelly catchphrases.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
All right, So he gave us one.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
It was it stuck to his hands like peanut butter
and jelly, which we realize, Shanon, peanut butter doesn't stick
to jelly, so that one does go right.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
So what's your second one? Like, so make a big
defensive play. Let's say they get an interception and it
shuts down why I'm.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Living with the head at the line stops him for
a one yard loss. And that's the kind of stop
that comes Matt when you our team is together, like
peanut butter and jelly. Hold on, I'm asking, I'm workshopping this,
Like y'all are just laughing at me.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I know, but you're just laughing and you're not critiquing.
I mean, like.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Healthy gives a hit, you want it to not be
stuck together. It's like powerful, so you want to be
like that hit was as hard as Bob not stunck to.
I feel like you're trying to force in stuck together
like peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
That's all I got right now.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
So I mean, I got a week, but peanut butter
and jelly is kind of what I was thinking of.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
So yeah, away from the peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yeah, maybe like try something different. You know, there's other
foods you could use.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I don't know, there's a lot of foods. How about
baked beans, So.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
You go, I don't know how to throw baking They're
leaking out like after you.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
No, they're gonna cut us.
Speaker 7 (37:57):
They're gonna cut the game beat and put on like
a Adam Shefter podcast.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
If we do that, you know, we got we gotta.
Speaker 7 (38:04):
Get through the actual game itself, shifter, you know, I gotta,
I gotta. I'll get better. No, I'll get better. I'll
figure it out.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Listen, I'll figure I would just say to you, this
is my only piece of advice. You're gonna need to
give me advice because again, I've never called a game.
Just remember, we just have to do our thing, just
me and you talking like we don't have to be
like these other people, because if we try to be
like these other people, we're not gonna be good because
they've been doing it their whole life.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Matt wants to take phone calls during a play by
play call of a game that's.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
You can't take a phone call that He mentioned that,
and I think I get the sense that people at
ESPN are a little nervous, Like they don't say it,
but when I talk to them about this game, they
go like, you know, let.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Me give you an example. Third and two.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
We gotta time out on the field. Let's go to
the phones. Cadence is on Cadence, what do you, Cadence.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, I don't know that. In the middle of Cadences,
Myron Cadence is on the air.
Speaker 8 (39:07):
Go all right. First of all, we're gonna have to
fix that a Louisville pronunciations at Louisville.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
It's Louisville. Are you all casts A.
Speaker 11 (39:20):
Second thing?
Speaker 6 (39:20):
I would like to say, hold I second, how.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Did you say it? How did you say it, Cadence?
How did you say it Louisville? All right, so try
that Myron Louisville. He said Lousa.
Speaker 7 (39:31):
No, sounds like an eighty seven eighty seven Chevy louis
That's how we said.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Louisville.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
Lover love it, love it?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
He can't love How about it? How about it? Love Conda?
Is that good? Cadence?
Speaker 8 (39:49):
All right?
Speaker 6 (39:50):
Yeah, yeah, that'll be honest. I'll do all I can think.
Speaker 8 (39:53):
I would like to say, though, With basketball, uh, I
want to know why we So we have a really
deep team, right, really extensive roster. Our team or rosters
to considered one of the deepest in the nation. Right,
But when you look at other teams, like say Logo,
for example, their team might not be as deep but
they have three elite guys that can score with Michael
(40:14):
Brown and the other two guards. I think Ryan Conley.
I don't know the other, but he But why can't
we do something like that? Why have we have.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
That's a fair question. I appreciate the Carl Cadence. What
do you think Kentucky Myron has elite players?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yes, they definitely have.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Who are the elite.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Players on the roster in your mind right now? Well,
even though he's not playing like them, you got Otega
you start there with the sec. Do you think he's
an elite player? I think he has to be.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Okay, I don't know. Has to be Low as well? Right,
Low has to be I think Denzel has to be that.
But I mean, do you think Denzel Aberdeen's an elite player?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
He has to be?
Speaker 7 (40:57):
Like to me, what it comes down to is you
don't have a choice if you're gonna be good. I
think the other thing is depth is the most overrated
thing that I sport. Once you get to mid January,
you got six or seven guys who are really playing
for every team in America, Like nobody's playing eleven guys,
ten guys. It just doesn't happen so you got to
figure out who you're six or seven guys out.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Of this group that you can depend on. I agree
with your depth is overrated, Jordan, I got a minute.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Go ahead.
Speaker 11 (41:20):
Oh hang them. Hey, Matte, it's good to hear you on.
Myron's going to have you on.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
Appreciate it real quick.
Speaker 11 (41:28):
I don't care how Kentucky has to play to win.
I don't get if we win dirty. I just can't
see his view what we did against Gonzaga. And then
Ma's going to have you on because you know, Matt
with his wrestling love, likes to give a rub, so
maybe he can give you one.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
I appreciate that you he heard that, Myron.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
You know you don't like the wrestling phrase give someone
a rub. You don't like if someone a rub going
out on their back. I don't know what y'all were
talking about. It just that's not that's not a thing.
I want to be a potto man. Well, no, I
appreciate you being a part of this show for an
hour on Late Notice. The New Orleans Bowl is one
week from today at five o'clock.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
We're gonna die out for dinner in New Orleans. We're
gonna have a.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Fun night, and then we're gonna call the greatest football
game of all time. Myron, let's do it. Let's do it, Adam, look,
it'll join us for hour or two. Thank you Myron
for being with us. We'll take a break, be right
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call TJ. He'll make them pay. Weird day today, all right,
Ryan out, Drew's out. Shannon is here. So we decided
to bring on some people uh to it to sit
with us. Myron Metcalf of ESPN is here for the
first hour. Adam Luckett will talk some football in the
second hour, but Myron is in Minneapolis, the co host
(01:18):
of Matt Myron on Sunday Mornings with Me. Myron, thank
you for joining us on such short notice.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, nah, thank you for having me.
Speaker 6 (01:26):
Man.
Speaker 7 (01:26):
How hi was I on the list of people you
were thinking about it? You were the first, because I
felt like I was like seventh a little bit based
on the tens F I didn't know you were first.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
We just had we knew Ryan was gonna be gone.
Drew is having like Drew and this has happened to me.
Have you ever had the back problems where your back
just locks up and you can't move. Drew is having
that right now. So he can't he he can't like
he barely got in here yesterday and like he can't move.
And when as soon as Drew was out and I
knew Ryan was out, I was like this, it's Myron time.
Speaker 7 (01:58):
Yeah, okay, good, I'm just making sure I was pretty
high on the list. Hope everybody is good.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Though.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Back problems are no joke. At all, but glad to
be here. Man.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
No, I think he's good. Now, Myron of course, and
I of course do Sunday mornings. Uh, we're gonna call
a bowl game together, Shannon, which we may practice a
little bit of today.
Speaker 8 (02:14):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I know you never done play by play, Myron.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Have you ever done a color commentary for a game
for a football color?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
What color commentary?
Speaker 8 (02:21):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (02:21):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I've done not football. I've done basketball.
I've done commentary, I've done play by.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That's very they are chanted.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
That's a different sport, that's true, much difficult, much experience, though,
it's much different resumes I've done.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I've done games, and I've done a ton of sideline.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Are you nervous about the fact that I've never done
play by play and you've never done color for a
football game, and we're doing it in a national broadcast?
Does that make you at all nervous?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Wait? I thought you told me you had done play
by play? You haven't. You haven't.
Speaker 7 (02:50):
I thought you said when we first talked that maybe
you've done it before. I mean, it is nice to
think I said that, But but.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I did. I wasn't nervous, No, really nervous. I mean,
but I've watched football. I've seen chanting. I've seen plays
happen one after another.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Sure, you want to put your good name on the line.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
That listen, if they put us on they know what
they're getting. I just I've been working on catchphrases, catchphrases,
not just hard.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But do you have a catchphrase? I got a couple
of them. Okay, you want to test out his catch phrases?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Here, I've got one right here. I can play back
for him.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Let's play one of his catch phrase. All right, Okay,
tell your friends about me.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
That's that's that's you say that for later in the
game though, that's like one of my premiere.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Okay, you don't bring that out. You don't do the
that's like the fourth quarter, big big Western Kentucky play.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Tell your friends that's a yeah, that's that's later in
the game.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
You know, that's like a fourth quarter somebody makes a
big play in a close game, then you you throw
that out there.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I see what you all think of this idea.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
I had an idea, Shannon, that since I have not
done it long enough to have catchphrase, that I would
give a tribute to all the great announcers by using
their catch phrases during the game. Not consistently, Shannon, but
like it's like it's like little almost tributes throughout the game.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
Yeah, you gotta be careful about that. Lightly, I just
got you don't want to overdo it. I would use game.
I would only do it once again. So let's say
game starts, Southern Miss has the ball. I'll say about
Western Kentucky, Shannon, they opened up.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Man, now you're using a basketball. I don't know. Yeah,
I don't know football. You don't think I do that.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
No, I don't think. I don't think that. I don't think. Well,
commentators are really like they don't like that. Like commentators
are really protective of their catchphrases.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
So I wrestlers are like that. They are and they
don't like you to use their finishing moves. Yeah, so
you gotta be careful about That's one year.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
What's one you've considered? So, like, let's say there's a
big catch. I call a big catch.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, looks, don't make me call things, and this is
what we actually, this is what we have to do that.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Until I'm ready to call them. But we could just say,
you know, Philip Rivers deep ball to shading griggs Be
thirty one yards. That ball stuck to his hands like
peanut butter to jelly.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Mat No, I can't wait. Wait a minute. That wasn't
That wasn't That was bad? Was that bad? It wasn't good?
That well, it's bad. It shut up.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
It's just it felt like a little for give me,
it felt like just it just felt like a regular,
like a joe.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
Yeah, let me be a little more natural, give it,
give it to him again. Let me be a little
more natural, and I'll do it the way I'll really
do it.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Philip Rivers drops back to past Griggsby's open catches for
thirty one yards.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
Down the sideline, Matt great hands by that young man
stuck to his hands like peanut butter to jelly.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Better, I'm throw it away.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
It's the content, it's the delivery. The delivery was better.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
The delivery is not good.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Better the second time, I agree, the delivery seemed more
natural second time.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Yeah, a lot of my catchphrases involved peanut butter and jelly.
Should I change that up? Because that's maybe my problem?
Like I couldn't like a lot of it's peanut butter
and Jelly. I think I gotta maybe come up and
I think you can.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Only do one line ship And wouldn't you agree peanut
butter in jail?
Speaker 7 (07:00):
We can't have every catchphrase be up Butter than Joe.
I've got three three per half Peter Butter. I just
I gotta come up some new stuff. Isn't gonna go with?
I mean, that's just kind of this is not gonna
go with.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
It was already off the rills.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
You know what, We're gonna do a great job. I'm
one hundred per confident we're gonna do uh, We're gonna do.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
It extuply regardless.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
It will be entertaining.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Even if I just end up making fun of Myron
the whole time, it'll be entertaining.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I wanted to bring you on.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Here to talk a little bit, in addition to having fun,
talk a little bit about basketball. And you're so, how
long you been covering basketball for ESPN?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Byron? What?
Speaker 8 (07:38):
What?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well?
Speaker 7 (07:39):
How long has it been? Fifteen years with ESPN? Almost
twenty overall?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Twenty years?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Okay, so you you probably you've said before Kentucky fans,
when you write something for ESPN, isn't it the case?
And you tell me if I'm wrong that Kentucky articles
do better on ESPN than anything else.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Yeah, I mean the traffic is I mean, I don't
know what I can say about the traf's the the
audience at Kentucky is different than I would say any
other audience in college basketball.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I mean, I think that's pretty obvious. Is that by
substantial margin?
Speaker 7 (08:18):
Yeah, I mean I think anything Kentucky related is the biggest.
I mean I think it's almost like Cowboys in the NFL,
Like people are always like, why do you always talk about
the Cowboys on ESPN? Because the numbers show that people
tune in when you talk about the Cowboys, whether people
like it or not. So I think Kentucky is that
in college So.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
When you so so, the point being, you guys all
will end up following Kentucky quite a bit. When you've
watched Kentucky this year as a neutral, third party observer,
what has been your your conclusion about the team?
Speaker 7 (08:55):
Well, I mean we actually were talking about this the
other day because we're trying to figure out a trip
to Kentucky. Uh, We're trying to figure out kut what
the story is with Kentucky. They just seem disconnected you know,
And I think that to me is probably the most
obvious thing in their losses. I think even saw in
the first half early against Indiana, they just don't seem
like they're in sync. Like to me, I don't think
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in my time covering basketball that I've ever covered a
team where you didn't know definitively who your number one,
number two, number three options were.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Like, I feel like this.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
Is a team that feels like there are seven guys
that think they're the number one or two options and
that just never works. No team has ever had that
situation in one big Like, at some point you got
to figure out who's the guy, and you also just
have to realize your strengths. And I think Barkley did
a good job talking about this in the Indianay too.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I thought he's surprisingly for a guy who clearly had.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Never seen them play. I actually thought he did a
good job of pointing out the deficiencies.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
But I think this is why, and again, the analytics
era is incredible. I think we get a lot of
information the analytics that have changed the way that we
see basketball. I also think we get obsessed with the
numbers sometimes that you can't do the basic things, and
it wasn't hard to look at that team and go,
wait a minute, Yes they're missing shots, but why aren't
guys rebounding?
Speaker 8 (10:14):
Like?
Speaker 7 (10:14):
Why are guys getting back on defense? Whying guys making
the extra pass? Like the stuff that I felt like
has been wrong in Kentucky is very elementary and fundamental,
and I think Indiana and the second half they kind
of figure some things out, but it's been disappointing overall.
And I think you got to put that on Mark Pope.
He said this is what he wanted. He knew the expectations.
Now you got to deal with it.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Do you think it was a poorly assembled team?
Speaker 7 (10:38):
This is not Major League Baseball, it's not the NBA,
it's not the NFL. So my challenge with poorly assembled
is I think it's very difficult in this era to
have all the right pieces for any team Like Kansas
last year had all these great transfers, it didn't work.
There's been a lot of teams North Carolina, North Carolina,
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a lot of teams have put these team together and
it just hasn't worked because it's more complicated than fifteen
points per game. I think the numbers have made people
nationally go, well, wait a minute, you can't spend that
amount of money and not figure it out. But the
teams that I know that haven't worked behind the scenes,
and I don't care what I know. Mark Pope and
others are saying there's nothing wrong. The teams that haven't
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worked behind the scenes just don't really vibe with each
other like I do these stories, Matt. I've done them
for fifteen years, where you go hang out with a team,
and the teams that like each other, you can see it.
The teams that vibe together, you can see it. And
I just haven't seen that with Kentucky yet. I have
a lot of people saying that there's nothing wrong, but
I don't see it so far. Now, Shannon that Mark
Pope on his showlet yesterday. Yeah, he said two things
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I thought were reporting. One he said, this team is
still going to be a really good shooting team.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You believe that, No, I.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Don't, because we're not three or four games in. We're
eleven games in, and they still have not shown that
they can shoot the ball. And it's like they do,
you know, they shoot the ball well in practice, but
that's not translating to end the game.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I don't care how they.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Shoot in practice, I don't care about what I'm seeing,
and it's not good.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
And then the second thing he said is he's been
he's been speaking with a lower tone of voice recently,
and it's led some fans to say that I want
my coach to have emotion. But Myron he said yesterday
that he yelled so much for a month that his
doctors have told him he's not allowed to scream until
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after New Year's, that he has to that he he
is going to like ruin his voice, and so that's
why he's not yelling, is he's not allowed to yell
until after New Year's.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
What's your thought on that? Yeah, I didn't understand that.
I mean the Brandon Garrison when he yelled at him
to get on the bitch. That was the first time
I think I've ever seen Mark Pop yell. You know,
I don't know that I'm in practice.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I've seen him yell in practice, like not liking an
ang He just yells, like you know how I mean,
I talk with power in my voice.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, he just yells.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
I think sometimes when he talks, not in an angry way,
just that's how he communicates. Do you think he can
go weeks without yelling. I don't think he'll go a
day with that. I mean like he's been very monotone.
I mean he's been very monotone recently.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
We didn't have a coach on vocal rest.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
He's not Mariah Carrey, no, right, I mean like, I
don't care if he doesn't have a voice.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
At the end of the year, I need my coach
doing what it needs.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
You want him no matter what, even if he even
if his vocal.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
That's what it takes.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Sometimes sometimes you need a second opinion, right, Like the
guys go and get ACL six, Go find a doctor
who will let you yell. You know, there's a doctor
out there who will let you do it. But your
general okay, yeah, there will. I think in general though,
I think with Mark Polpe and I told you this
on the show, he's really smart. Like he's smarter than
any coach probably at college basketball, in terms of if
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he didn't have basketball, he'd be okay. And the guy
went to medical school, and I think that's a cool thing. Sometimes, however,
without even trying, you can sound like you're trying to
be smarter than everybody else. And I don't think Mark
Pope is doing that, but his delivery his intellect in
moments like this, So they could be somewhat of a
turn off to people sometimes because you're like, hey, man,
just talk to us, Man, just talk to.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Us about coach. Who's the dumbest coaching? I mean nobody
shan't nobody. I don't think.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
I don't just say if you were this. Okay, let's
not say that's not true. I've talked to you private.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Who's the least who is the one that.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Would be least likely to go to med's school? Okay,
you said you said Mark Pope went to med school.
Which coach of a big time program is least likely
to go to med school? Okay, this is not about intellect. Okay, right,
we're gonna get an answer. I like this, who's least
likely to go to med school? This is not about intellect.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
Mick Cronin probably ends up fighting a professor, would sue,
you know what I mean, So like you won't do it.
He probably can't just say which one is not can't
get into med school? So you want me to name
a coach that you just said who's the dumbest coach?
And then a week from now, maybe I have to
call that coach.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Isn't that what we want? Yeah, thats what we all want.
That's what we want.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Yeah, I'll let you tell. I'll let you headle that
you named the coach, but I don't know him.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You know them?
Speaker 5 (15:14):
If I'm eighty seven, text machine is seven seven two
seven seven four five two five four. Could you go
weeks without yelling? I think I could, but I don't
know if like a Shannon could. I think all of
us could. I don't know if you could. If you're
a basketball I'm not a yeller. I don't just y know.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I means that.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Would be very, very difficult. We'll take a break. Very back, KSR,
welcome back. Take you sports radio text machine seven seven
two seven seven four five two five four one person rights, Matt,
did you practice during Monday night football last night? I did, Channon,
I put it on mute yep and just called about
a quarter of the game.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
How do you feel about it? You have more confidence?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Really awkward, felt really awkward at first, but as it
went on started to get you know, I didn't have
like meyron there to kind of play off of, so
like I'd do it and then there'd be silence. Yeah,
and talking to yourself out loud is weird, like like
it's it's weird to just talk to yourself out loud.
But uh, but I but I got more used to it,
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and I'm gonna I'm gonna keep I'm doing one game
every night for the next for the next week.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
But myron, so I feel better about it.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Yeah, I mean, but you know, the best commentators, that's
that's honestly what they do. So I was at a
game once where Gus Johnson and I was staying at
the same hotel before a basketball game that he was calling,
and I get ready to drive to the game and
Gus Johnson is in the parking lot calling.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
This imaginary game.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
I kid you outside, he's outside of his car, He's yelling,
he's jumping like he's doing Oh. It was almost like
knowing e powerful voice he was doing the Gus Johnson
calls invoice standing in a parking lot in the middle
of Indiana doing all of his calls two hours before
the game.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
But like, I think that's how locked in you have
to be, uh to kind of play that role well.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
And as we said, like they wouldn't have hired me
ad Myron to be like real announcers, like they're expecting
us to be to be to be us. One person writes, Matt,
it's nice to have Matt Jones and Black Jones on
the same show. That's what you called yourself right when
I was gone.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Yeah, when we hang out without you, Yeah, it's a
fun show. Like it's like your parents give you the
keys to the house for the weekend because they gotta
go away. We gotta just do our things. So yeah,
Black Jones, let's waffle house. Oh man, So many conversations
about how there.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
One person writes, Matt, you, uh, were gonna try to
get Myron in trouble by talking about the coaches. So
I'll ask him one, what's it like actually working with
Matt behind the scenes?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Is he difficult? All right? There you go? Is that?
What do you think? How would you answer that Myron
to find difficult? Was that? What do they mean?
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Answer it however you want. It's fine, Mat and I
are good. I don't have any issue. I mean, there
was devil a period where I felt like we would
have screaming matches, like eight minutes before we had to
start a show and we figure it out.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
But nah, we we can sometimes shan and literally be
yelling at each other and then they go thirty seconds
and we turn it off and we'd be fine.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It sounds like a perfectly normal, healthy relationship to me.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
I mean, next week, that could be some of that. Like,
that could be a little bit of that next week.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
He's a little stubborn, Shannon in a way that you like,
he's a little stubborn like you guys. If I say
we're gonna do this, y'all are like, we're doing it.
Myron sometimes is like, we're not doing that.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
You're a little stubborn.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Though, wait, I mean that's true Matt.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
So so we have a running joke like before Mattle
Jump on the pre show, we'll start to plan the show,
but and we always are like, well, Matt might change
all this, because you know, Matt likes to be organized
and he likes to call the shots.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And move things around.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
One first writes, Myron needs to know peanut butter doesn't
stick to jelly.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
It actually sticks to bread.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
The whole thing up because he's because he said peanut
but like peanut butter stuck to jelly.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Do you put your jelly Peter.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, I gotta start actually sticks to the bread. I
gotta start from scratch. No, I gotta I got a
bunch of peanut butter and jelly catch raises.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
I gotta go back to the gotta go back to
the draw your jelly.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
This uh.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
For Louisville's Bowl game against Toledo, the Boca Ratone Bowl,
you can get into the game for free.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
If you bring a ca of baked beans to the game.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Why do they want baked beans?
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Because it is the Baked Bean Bow it is sponsored
by Bush's Baked Beans. But I don't understand why Bush's
Baked Beans would need more baked.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Beans because they want more money and then that gets
you into the game.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Well, concessions are gonna be ridiculous. I bet they're gonna
make a lot of money, probably off concession. I don't
know if you want to let people in Florida in
for free, I mean, like there's gonna be a whole
that's gonna be a different kind of crowd.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Man.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Well, I think they probably for Louisville to security situation,
they probably need to get people in the stadium however
they can. But I do like the idea that if
you bring a can of beans to the game, you
get in for free. That's Bush's bake beans, only be
the company that has sponsored it. Yah see, there's gonna
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be a problem at the door.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Somebody's gonna bring some baked beans that are not bushes,
and it's gonna be a conflict.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
So you can guarantee a bowl game for essentially one
two dollars and fifty cents or I don't know how much.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
How much is it can mean two dollars, three dollars?
Are you all that rich that you've never been to
a grocery store? It's cass had That is cass Hard.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
That's successful that you have never been to a grocery store,
and I haven't.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I haven't bought beans in a while. Let's go to Josh.
Go ahead, Josh, that's okay, Hello, Jish, Yeah, okay, Hey,
I want to.
Speaker 9 (21:29):
Give a quick happy birthday shut out to Kentucky unforgettable
Darren Fieldhouse.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Happy birthday? Darren? Is your name? Jish?
Speaker 9 (21:39):
Oh No, it's a nickname, nick.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Okay, got all right? Cool? Go ahead.
Speaker 9 (21:45):
So while I'm on the Fieldhouse topic, Belmont's coming in
Man and they're robbing the state of Kentucky. I feel
like Jake Fieldhouse is having a tremendous season at mass Essential.
I think it's something. I mean, who's Mark Pope getting
next year as a freshman?
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Well, I mean it is a good question about who
he's getting. I'm not sure that I appreciate the call
that that that the answer is from Madison Central, although
that kid is playing well. But Myron, do you are
you worried about Mark Pope's recruiting? Still no commitments for
next year?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I don't know. I feel like there's a divide right there.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
The they're the and I think Kentucky's one of the
programs a lot like I'll say North Carolina, maybe Kansas,
where there's this idea of even in the portal era,
you still want to go after top prospects, right But
I think but Dwayne top prospects Carolina is Kansas is
the only team that has in is Kentucky. Yeah, I
think this year has been unique with freshmen, right, Like
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the freshman classes have not looked like this in past years.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
If you tell me time, we got to break here
real quick, We'll take a break. Be right back. It's
Kentucky's works Radio. Okay, TJ. Smith, personal injury attorney, called TJ.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
He'll make them.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
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Speaker 4 (23:08):
Here's Matt Jones.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
This was for me.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I know, I appreciate that a lot of people don't
know this. I bet no one else knows this song
except me and you.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
What was this? Uh space ghosts? And this is brack
that's right, singing about beans.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Singing about beans. That's right. Beans.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
By the way, Myron, two dollars and thirty nine cents,
so you can you know, it's only the first two
thousand people that get in to the Boca Ratone Bowl
with with two dollars.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And thirty nine cent beans.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
Once you get past nineteen hundred, it's gonna be a
fight in that In that line, you're gonna be skipping.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
People skipping will end up in a bowl game where
they're playing Toledo for beans.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Like they were like though they were going in the playoff. Literally,
that's a classic line man.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Move away from the play off to playing Bledo for
baked beans.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
That's true, that's true. Is this the Old West? Shannon?
What's happening to?
Speaker 4 (24:09):
These ball games are ridiculous? Anyway?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I love them, but I have to say, what person rights?
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Does Myron know that his play by play guy just
learned yesterday that referees wear white hats.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Yeah, we got some stuff we gonna have to figure
out that. No, I think I'm curious, Matt, what the
meeting is gonna be like, because you know, before these
broadcasts and I've done a bunch of ESPN games, there's
like a big meeting where everyone kind of walks through
the game. Like, I wonder what that's gonna be like.
You know how how the people with us are gonna
feel well, they're.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Gonna have to get over it.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
What person says, Matt, I've been doing play by play
for thirty five years from my local high school. I
cannot imagine doing your first play by play game on
national radio. I feel like you could do it, but
I would be nervous as can be. Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I appreciate it's gonna make you feel better about the situation.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Nah.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
No, man, I've done my first play by player on
ESPN National TV and it went okay. Like the good
thing about production, I will say this because I've done
games is we're gonna get a lot of help, Like
there are a lot of smart people who are going
to be around us, who are gonna make it pretty easy.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Well, Billy got both. Billy got bumped. You stat, he
can't go, So I got it. I'm talking to my
new stat guy after the show, which I wanted Billy
to go. But probably the new guy will know more
about what's going on.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
But you don't know the new guy like you think.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
That's true. I'm meeting him. His name is Kirk. And
do you know him? Do you know Kirk? The stack guy?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Myron? How would I know him?
Speaker 6 (25:41):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
That's that's all you have? Is that all you done?
Last name? The stats for games? So where for? Who?
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Who does he work for ESPN? Maybe I've maybe I've
worked with him. We'll be embarrassing for it if he
gets down here. Uh and he and he does it?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Know him? Tonight Tennessee plays Louisville. Who do we root for? Shannon?
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Who? Well?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I think we got to stay with the conference. You
know the SEC, So I think we gotta pull for
Tennessee to beat Louisville.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Tennessee's lost three straight games, they're playing at home. This
could be their fourth straight loss. I'm kind of with you,
I guess I have to pull for Tennessee. Who's gonna
win Myron.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
I'll probably picked Louisville, I think in this one. I
mean Mike cul Brown junior uh is pretty good. Uh.
And I think Tennessee Nate Amen has been off. He's
had a lot of up and down performances. Like Tennessee's
challenges is basically Jacobe Gillespie Nate Amen. And if they
can't score forty combined, Tennessee has a hard time within him.
They lost to Syracuse, and I don't think Syracuse is great.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Yeah, and then Syracuse like Costra or something, didn't They
lost to hog Street.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Yeah, so the Florida Tennessee is pretty low. Yeah, I
think Tennessee that was an awful loss to Syracuse. Joe,
go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Yeah. Hey, guys, something interesting from the IU game. When
you look at the box score, Kentucky actually lost the
rebounding margins. Now, I think we got every rebound that mattered,
all the fifty to fifty balls from an effort.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Well, a couple things about that, though you're talking total rebounds,
I would say two things. One you may remember they
got like five or six rebounds at the end of
the game when they were shooting desperation threes.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
You remember in that last minute too.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
But I think the biggest part of that is the
free is the free throws. We missed seven free throws
that they rebounded and they only missed one that we rebounded.
So that's a six rebound difference right there, really just
on free throws which aren't even really contested.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Okay, yeah, that's fair, that's fair, and appreciate that point.
And one more thing. As you guys were talking, I
think you guys have hit the nail on the head
of this Kentucky team from shooting to you know, team
gelling together whatnot. Jasper Johnson only played three minutes. Now,
I know Hope trunk the lineup down, But to Jaster
Johnson's credit, I watched him. He was standing on the
(28:05):
sideline coaching his team, clapping, pointing things out like it
was really kind of nice to see with jo Landlow
getting that spotlight and really carrying the team through that
second half.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
I actually agree with you about Jasper. You were about
to appreciate the call. You were about to say something
marred about the rebounds. We got to teach people about
the rebinding war like. One of the challenges is we
use sometimes like this old school terminology. I think what
Matt is most people talking about rebounding, like in terms
of off of the rebounds. Kentucky actually won that battle.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
Fourteen day grabbed like yeah, but they grabbed thirty three
percent of their misshots, which is a higher percentage than
what Indiana did. I think the other thing with the
free throw attempts, I think that's how they have to
play like. This is a Kentucky team that hasn't been
great about getting to the line. They got to the
free throw line against Indiana and that put them in
a position to win. And I think the other thing
Cope yesterday said, we all said after the game in
(28:56):
the second half, Kentucky's gonna have to play like that.
I heard Terrence Oglesby on Field of sixty eight say
Kentucky's got to play like they did in the second half.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Charles Barkley said it.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Mark Pope yesterday said, Myron, we don't want to play
like that. We did it because we had to to
win that game, but we don't want to play that
kind of messy, gritty style. That's not what this team is.
I kind of disagree with him, what about you.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
Well, unless he's making a move at the trade deadline,
this is what he has so so I don't really
know what that means. Like like, Kentucky to me is
a team that has to play around the basket, try
to score and transition. The turnover thing is a big
part that people aren't talking enough about. Four turnovers in
that Indiana game matters a lot. But you don't have
a bunch of shooters.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
We had four, they had eighteen. That's a huge difference.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
You gotta be a great defensive team, which I think
they can be, and you gotta win ugly on offense.
You don't have a bunch of shooters who can spread
the floor and beat the Golden State Warriors. Everyone can't
do that, and that's okay, and that's what this team is. Yeah,
let's go to eight nine two, eight, twenty three, eighty seven.
Couple open lines. It's a good chance to get in.
Go to will, go ahead and will, Hey.
Speaker 10 (30:05):
Fellas, thanks again for taking my call. I was not
expecting to get on three days in a row after
never calling your.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
Guys show, So shout.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Out first of all, like three days in a row.
I had no idea, how did you get in.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Three days in a row if it's Tuesday.
Speaker 10 (30:24):
Because because I was gonna say, man, well, I was
gonna say I was on Friday. That was my first
call ever, and I started ranting about Mike Lee.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
And he didn't want to.
Speaker 10 (30:35):
No, it wasn't hey. And I also wanted to say,
shout out Myron. It's good to have a football perspective
and an outside perspective. Talking about UK basketball also furthers
my Mike Leachs point I made on Friday.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
By the way, well you know I was the head
college basketball reporter.
Speaker 10 (30:52):
Well shoot, I thought he did some football. But anyway,
also I did want Also I listened to the other
day he made the correlation between Dusty May and he
wanted a football coach at Michigan similar to their basketball coach.
So I felt validated. But anyway, I did want to
say something. I think Mark Cope is having trouble with
recruiting right now because he cannot promise the guy that
(31:16):
they're going to be the alpha on this team.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
He cannot promise the guy thirty five game guy.
Speaker 10 (31:23):
Does That's what and that's I think what's holding him back.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
He needs to promise.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Guy Wills a lot. There's a lot of words that
come out of Will's mouth when he talks. You know
what I mean, it's it's it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Maybe maybe take a day off, Will.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
Do you want one but to it? But one thing
he said that is interesting. Do you want your best
player to be a freshman in this era?
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Well, I don't know. I mean, it depends on who
the freshman is. I mean, Cameron Boozer is Duke's best
player and they're really good. Darius Acuff is probably arkansas
best player and they're playing well. I think it just
don't you think, Myron. It just depends on who the
freshman is. I don't think you can win if you
(32:08):
have a secondary freshman is your best player. But I
still think. I mean, the Duke was the best team
in the country last year. They lost, but they're their
two best players were freshmen.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
But I think you knowled it right, Like we have
the problem with the rankings is that there are suddenly
fifty eight five star recruits, which it wasn't that way
twenty years ago. Right, that's true. If you get one
of the five or six guys you're talking about, I'm
with you. If you have seven through twenty eight, that's
a different ball game.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
But that was Cali Perry's thing is in the early
col years, his best player was one through six, and
then in the later years it was seven through thirteen.
And that's a big difference, Byron, between having John wall
Is your best player or Anthony Davis or Carl Towns
and having BJ Boston as your best player. It's just
(32:57):
a different level of skill.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Yeah, once you get outside the top five, you have
a better chance of getting somebody in a portal who's
as good or better than that player coming in, and
that that's the challenge. There's five guys you want every
year and beyond that, but what amina is last year
in the portal. A lot of those guys have ended
up good but not great.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Yaxel has really been the only one of those top
seven guys who is leading a great team to success.
A lot of these other teams are winning with guys
that they kept in house, and I just think that's
kind of interesting. It's gonna be interesting to see what
works in the portal era. I think there's gonna be
a lot of different ways, uh to what's the phrase, Shannon,
(33:41):
There are many different ways to skin a cat, to
cook the pie.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
To cook the something. I don't think it's cooking. Is
there another one about cooking? There's one about cooking. I
think it's in a cat.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
There's only one way to cook a pie. I mean
it's in the recipe.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
What kind of pie were talking about?
Speaker 7 (33:57):
I don't think one other way with there be to
do besides making assumptions about the kind of poe.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
You know, we got air flyers and there was a
time when we didn't have ovens. I don't know, put
it over a fire. There's different ways to cook a pot,
so I don't think you can make a suck.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
I would argue. There may only be one way to
skin a cat. I don't know how, But who's skinning
cat on?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
Yeah, is that something we're still saying twenty times. It
does feel a little bit problematic, but.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
It's shame and it feels widely problematic, but I'm not
sure why it does.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, maybe we should let that one go.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
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(34:58):
me she's getting one of these Duffel bags from there
for me for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Oh yeah. She was like, there are six colors, which
one do you want?
Speaker 5 (35:06):
And I was like whatever, whichever one was, Like, would
you like this level of the brown or this? I
don't know, you know, like I just get do you
do you have an opinion of which brown you want?
Speaker 10 (35:17):
No?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
I thought there was just leather brown.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I mean, yeah, I don't know multiple browns. Yeah, there's brown.
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
I got to learn how to wrap gifts. I try
to watch YouTube video and I don't know how to
do it.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
That's another thing I don't know.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I was doing the same thing.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
I'll just get bags and put the little fluffy paper
there you go.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Yeah, but they say bags are informal. Though they say
bags are like not, they're informal. That's how people some
people see it. Bags well versus gift. I think people
expect it from me. They're lucky they get the bag.
We'll take a break of right backs. Canentuck you sports radio?
Welcome back?
Speaker 5 (35:53):
I tell you sports radio if I'm notine two eighth
twenty two eighty seven. Uh, text machine is seven seven
two seven to seven four or five two five four?
One person rights, I'm have to start listening to you
and Myron on Sunday mornings. Myron seems like a really
great guy. That's a lot of fun. How about that?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
That's nice?
Speaker 7 (36:11):
Oh yeah, I appreciate that. Now I get a lot
of love and support when I fill in. Uh here,
so now you know me.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Another person rights. I need Myron to not do the catchphrases.
I love him, and I think they're not gonna work.
But I do have to say, in the similar way
that people want to see a car wreck, I need
to hear his other peanut butter and jelly catchphrases.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
All right, So he gave us one.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
It was it stuck to his hands like peanut butter
and jelly, which we realize, Shanon, peanut butter doesn't stick
to jelly, so that one does go right.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
So what's your second one? Like, so make a big
defensive play. Let's say they get an interception and it
shuts down why I'm.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Living with the head at the line stops him for
a one yard loss. And that's the kind of stop
that comes Matt when you our team is together, like
peanut butter and jelly. Hold on, I'm asking, I'm workshopping this,
Like y'all are just laughing at me.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I know, but you're just laughing and you're not critiquing.
I mean, like.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Healthy gives a hit, you want it to not be
stuck together. It's like powerful, so you want to be
like that hit was as hard as Bob not stunck to.
I feel like you're trying to force in stuck together
like peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
That's all I got right now.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
So I mean, I got a week, but peanut butter
and jelly is kind of what I was thinking of.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
So yeah, away from the peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yeah, maybe like try something different. You know, there's other
foods you could use.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I don't know, there's a lot of foods. How about
baked beans, So.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
You go, I don't know how to throw baking They're
leaking out like after you.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
No, they're gonna cut us.
Speaker 7 (37:57):
They're gonna cut the game beat and put on like
a Adam Shefter podcast.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
If we do that, you know, we got we gotta.
Speaker 7 (38:04):
Get through the actual game itself, shifter, you know, I gotta,
I gotta. I'll get better. No, I'll get better. I'll
figure it out.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Listen, I'll figure I would just say to you, this
is my only piece of advice. You're gonna need to
give me advice because again, I've never called a game.
Just remember, we just have to do our thing, just
me and you talking like we don't have to be
like these other people, because if we try to be
like these other people, we're not gonna be good because
they've been doing it their whole life.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Matt wants to take phone calls during a play by
play call of a game that's.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
You can't take a phone call that He mentioned that,
and I think I get the sense that people at
ESPN are a little nervous, Like they don't say it,
but when I talk to them about this game, they
go like, you know, let.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Me give you an example. Third and two.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
We gotta time out on the field. Let's go to
the phones. Cadence is on Cadence, what do you, Cadence.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, I don't know that. In the middle of Cadences,
Myron Cadence is on the air.
Speaker 8 (39:07):
Go all right. First of all, we're gonna have to
fix that a Louisville pronunciations at Louisville.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
It's Louisville. Are you all casts A.
Speaker 11 (39:20):
Second thing?
Speaker 6 (39:20):
I would like to say, hold I second, how.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Did you say it? How did you say it, Cadence?
How did you say it Louisville? All right, so try
that Myron Louisville. He said Lousa.
Speaker 7 (39:31):
No, sounds like an eighty seven eighty seven Chevy louis
That's how we said.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Louisville.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
Lover love it, love it?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
He can't love How about it? How about it? Love Conda?
Is that good? Cadence?
Speaker 8 (39:49):
All right?
Speaker 6 (39:50):
Yeah, yeah, that'll be honest. I'll do all I can think.
Speaker 8 (39:53):
I would like to say, though, With basketball, uh, I
want to know why we So we have a really
deep team, right, really extensive roster. Our team or rosters
to considered one of the deepest in the nation. Right,
But when you look at other teams, like say Logo,
for example, their team might not be as deep but
they have three elite guys that can score with Michael
(40:14):
Brown and the other two guards. I think Ryan Conley.
I don't know the other, but he But why can't
we do something like that? Why have we have.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
That's a fair question. I appreciate the Carl Cadence. What
do you think Kentucky Myron has elite players?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yes, they definitely have.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Who are the elite.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Players on the roster in your mind right now? Well,
even though he's not playing like them, you got Otega
you start there with the sec. Do you think he's
an elite player? I think he has to be.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Okay, I don't know. Has to be Low as well? Right,
Low has to be I think Denzel has to be that.
But I mean, do you think Denzel Aberdeen's an elite player?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
He has to be?
Speaker 7 (40:57):
Like to me, what it comes down to is you
don't have a choice if you're gonna be good. I
think the other thing is depth is the most overrated
thing that I sport. Once you get to mid January,
you got six or seven guys who are really playing
for every team in America, Like nobody's playing eleven guys,
ten guys. It just doesn't happen so you got to
figure out who you're six or seven guys out.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Of this group that you can depend on. I agree
with your depth is overrated, Jordan, I got a minute.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Go ahead.
Speaker 11 (41:20):
Oh hang them. Hey, Matte, it's good to hear you on.
Myron's going to have you on.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
Appreciate it real quick.
Speaker 11 (41:28):
I don't care how Kentucky has to play to win.
I don't get if we win dirty. I just can't
see his view what we did against Gonzaga. And then
Ma's going to have you on because you know, Matt
with his wrestling love, likes to give a rub, so
maybe he can give you one.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
I appreciate that you he heard that, Myron.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
You know you don't like the wrestling phrase give someone
a rub. You don't like if someone a rub going
out on their back. I don't know what y'all were
talking about. It just that's not that's not a thing.
I want to be a potto man. Well, no, I
appreciate you being a part of this show for an
hour on Late Notice. The New Orleans Bowl is one
week from today at five o'clock.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
We're gonna die out for dinner in New Orleans. We're
gonna have a.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Fun night, and then we're gonna call the greatest football
game of all time. Myron, let's do it. Let's do it, Adam, look,
it'll join us for hour or two. Thank you Myron
for being with us. We'll take a break, be right
back to kis Her
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