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Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, all right, let's talk for just a second about uh,
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Speaker 5 (02:16):
We'll not a second, let's talk about some football.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
We've got Adam Luckett here of KSR joining us.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Adam, how are you good?

Speaker 7 (02:23):
I can confirm that whoever said that's full of it
because they didn't grow up in the Lucket house and
there was always streaming there, and we all have our voices.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
I have a lot of siblings.

Speaker 7 (02:31):
I have five brothers and sisters.

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Speaker 7 (02:34):
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just if you want to be heard, you had to scream.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
I think I've met three of them. I just will
like be walking down the street and people come up
to me and be like, I'm Adam Luckt's brother, Madam
Lucket's like you, They're They're everywhere, all right, So we're
gonna go to the phones here in a second. I
want to give get you to give us a quick
update about the since will Stein has been hired UK stuff.
We talked a lot about potential coaches in the forty

(02:59):
eight hours, and we didn't have a coach. Was will
Stein to you a good hire, just generally.

Speaker 7 (03:06):
Yeah, I think he was in that top tier of
available candidates. I think once summer all was off the table,
so he would have been your top He would have
been my top choice once he was off the table,
which when Kentucky entered the market, he was on. Then
Florida was done. I think you were looking at him
and Brian Hartline and those were the clear top two
guys and they got one of those.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
So explain to people what a will Stein offense will
look like if he does what they do at Oregon.

Speaker 7 (03:30):
Yeah, I think you're gonna see kind of a balanced
offense that will mix in tempo. Every once in a
while they'll go full like tempo, but most most of
the time, it's more of like they're not gonna be
like this crazy Temple offense. They're gonna mix a match.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
So the idea that it's like high speed all the time,
that's really not what he does.

Speaker 7 (03:45):
It is not, but he will. They will one to
two series a game. And you'll see this if you
watch the playoff game against James Madison on Saturday. They
will go as fast as any offense moves in college
football for a series and then they'll they'll get out
of it trick plays. He's big on plays. You're going
to see a couple of them, probably when they play
James Madison. But he wants to run the football first,

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and then they're in the passing game. They are not
necessarily super complicated, but they're trying to get vertical. But
they're also willing to throw it short. So to me, like,
in some ways it looks a little bit like Kentucky
ran last year when they went to this short passing
game and driven off that. But his offense has been
a lot better.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
This offense, all right.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
He has brought in a staff of very young people. Yeah,
this is probably the youngest staff I've ever seen in
college football.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Do you like that? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (04:36):
I think for a place like Kentucky, you've got to
be We've talked about this, You've got to be able,
or you got to be willing to swing the bat
and take chances and bet on ascending coaches. They've got
two guys under thirty five, the offensive line coach, the
outside linebacker coach, both under thirty five years old.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
And they're a guy that's like twenty six.

Speaker 7 (04:52):
The offensive line coach, Cutter Left, which graduated high school
high school twenty seventeen.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Shin, we have a twenty six year old off it's
a line crazy try six.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yes, normally I would say it was wait say.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
That again, high school in twenty seventeen.

Speaker 7 (05:08):
He graduated high school in the year of Our Lord
twenty seventeen. Wow, he will be a multi year SEC
offensive line coach when he goes to his ten year
high school re union.

Speaker 6 (05:21):
That is.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
I can't get over that. So he is eight years
I'm trying to think of where I was eight years
out of high school. I was like, I just graduated
law school. The idea that you would be an SEC,
that's that's.

Speaker 7 (05:32):
Some of us just been a couple of years out
of college at that point.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Wow, So what do you I mean, like without we
don't have to go into detail on them, but do
these people have good resumes? Do you like what you've
seen from them? Cutter Left, which is offensive line coach's name. Okay,
he was he graduated Byron Left with he is not now.
He's from a coaching family. His dad was a longtime
offensive line coach. His brother is the offensive coordinator at
Texas Tech. Like his brother and him, could play each

(05:59):
other in the playoff because if Oregon wins, are playing
Texas Tech. Okay, So he's from a coaching family.

Speaker 7 (06:04):
He was at UCLA, was a graduate Assistan that went
to Oregon and kind of a support staff role. He
left to be the North Texas offensive line coach who
coach just got hired Oklahoma State for twenty twenty four.
Then Oregon wanted to bring him back that he was
so coveted for them, they felt like they wanted him back.
So he's already a guy that's.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Been on the on the on the right, am I
seeing that most of these guys seem to have a
good recruiting background, Like the recruiting is kind of a
big part.

Speaker 7 (06:31):
Of the two coordinators they hired. I would say the
best thing they do, both of them is the recruiters.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
There have been some controversy about these coordinators. There's people
who go, look, none of these guys have won anywhere.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Do you worry about that?

Speaker 7 (06:48):
More so on defense less on offense. Because as talking
about the defensive coordinator, Jay Bateman is the defensive coordinator.
He was an FCS coach, came up through the ranks,
then became the Army defensive coordinator when their coach and
who there is there now? First got there and kind
of got them going. Then went to North Carolina with
Mac Brown, did not go well, went to Florida for
two years, got some players, was a really good recruiter

(07:09):
for Florida. Then went to A and M. And then
it's kind of lost in translation. What happened there? Was
he defensive coordinator? Was he not? It sounds like Elko
took over that. So he was defensive coordinator in title
only Sun And I see your.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Face a little skeptical about the defensive coordinator.

Speaker 7 (07:24):
I think it's a risk, but he has experience, and
so what did he learn something from Elkoll that he
maybe learned from North Carolina? Was a North Carolina situation
just weird because they had Mac Brown and it wasn't
going well. They were offense first. But it's I think
it's a risky higher. Yeah, it's not necessarily a guy
who's had more recently proven results. But if you just
if you hired him straight from Army, that's kind of
the offense the defensive coordinator you would hire usually at Kentucky,

(07:47):
it's kind of a G five guy that's proven and
now going up to the next level. Well, Kyter Bowley
be back next year. Yes, it's trending that way.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Trending that way. Yes, Okay, will we bring in a
guy to compete with him? We will, But Cutter Bully
will be the starter. It's not gonna be a I
would say, a real competition.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Okay, So that's kind of new to me. So you
think Cutter Bowley is the starter next year? So when
will Stein kind of did? I hope he wants to compete.
That's more motivating than it is. A sign that somebody
great's coming.

Speaker 7 (08:15):
In and also them trying to establish the culture that
you're not gonna get anything. But yeah, it's Cutter Bowly
is a guy for them.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
That's I think that's a Newsy proposition. They got this
wide receiver from Louisiana at the end of sine. Do
you think this team is I mean, they're gonna have
to be active in the portal just to fill a roster.
Do you think they're gonna be able to get a
good portal class? I do, yes, SEC School. They've got money,
they're gonna have cap space. I think they're gonna be
able to make a splash. So for football. Do you

(08:44):
think they have enough money for football? We've talked a
lot about the basketball issues in terms of going forward.
Do you think the football financial situation is in a
good place.

Speaker 7 (08:54):
I do, But we're gonna learn a lot in this
portal period. We're gonna learn just how much money they have.
I think that is gonna be the real barometer for
all of this. Just how much money do they have?
We're gonna find out in the portal because it seems
like you here they say that they're in a good spot,
but you have to worry. You know, the rev share
at Kentucky. Just be honest. The basketball team is getting

(09:16):
a chunk of that, but nobody knows what it is.
But we don't know, so I'm just talking here. You've
got to be like, let's use some street smarts. Yeah, basketball,
basketball is getting a chunk of the ten dollars. We
have a lot. We have less than all the rest
of the SEC schools. We're gonna have to JMI is
gonna have to in the collective. We're gonna have to

(09:36):
make up for it in the gaps. So we'll see.
They have a lot of money coming off the bookst.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Of money coming off the books. I mean, they did
spend a lot of money on guys who are graduating.
Do you expect any player, I know Steven Soles entered
the portal. Do you expect any player that matters to leave?
Not right now, but that can change.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
Willie Rodrigue is.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
They're working hard to get Willy back.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Okay, what about those young receivers that they had some
success with the Miller guys, and.

Speaker 7 (10:06):
I think they're in a good spot right now. But
what happened? Do they covet Here's what's gonna happen in
all this, Matt. You go out and get a receiver,
then receiver on your team might be like, see you,
I'm out of here. Take them out spot. So there's
gonna be a lot of moving parts in here. The
thing with Kentucky's roster, this is gonna sound bad, but
they don't like there's not all there's not all SEC.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
Players's and there's not a lot of guys that you
were all.

Speaker 7 (10:29):
Right something you shouldn't cost you that much money in
the short term. But also you've got to go out
and get players.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
If it was you can. Oregon's gonna play James Mats
in that first game they're gonna win. Then they're gonna
play Texas Tech around New Year's Eve New Year's Day.
Do you want him to win that game?

Speaker 7 (10:45):
I do not. I want him.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
You'd like him to be here because because the portal
opens right after those.

Speaker 7 (10:51):
Games, it's better for I think the program if he's
foot the boots on the ground in lexing him when
the portal's open and you're having players on campus.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Because that's interesting because you were talking about doing a
watch party for that game, and I don't know if
people will be cheering for him to win or lose.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
Would you cheering for him to win or lose Shannon
in that game?

Speaker 3 (11:06):
You know, part of me says, I really don't care
if he wins or not. But then wouldn't it be
cool to have a National championship coach as your head coach?

Speaker 5 (11:12):
On what about that? Though?

Speaker 4 (11:13):
I mean, what about the Oregon plant because Oregon's bracket
kind of opens up?

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Right? Sure?

Speaker 4 (11:18):
I think I mean that they need to be Texas
Tech in Indiana a doable proposition for them. Do you
think Oregon playing in the National Championship with every time
they show will Stein, they say he's going to be
a coach at Kentucky next year. Do you think that
pays dividends for the program or doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (11:34):
I don't think it really matters that much.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Okay, what about future recruiting though, when you can.

Speaker 7 (11:39):
Say your coach tack game right, like, yeah again, maybe
you get it for a year and then after that
people move on.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Well, that's true. I remember Vince Merriw said that to
me when he got here with Stoops. He said, We'll
get all the benefit of Florida State for one year
and then it won't matter.

Speaker 7 (11:56):
It matters until we and then we get to the contract.
How much money too?

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Yeah, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 7 (12:01):
It's just a different world. And I think we look
at for US man, I think we look at it,
oh wow, national champion. But I think sixteen year old
that I think that matters for a certain time period
and then something else matters once you move move from that.
And just it's such an important period for Kentucky when
they're hosting these portal players, when they're in a market
where they have to get more than at least a

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handful of starters, maybe more. I think it's important to
have the.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Adam Luckett there you go Adam Luckett once Will Steino,
that's the headline, Adam Luckett the.

Speaker 7 (12:33):
Next year, I want it's trenity. You gotta lose.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
It's not the first time that needs to lose. Mike,
go ahead, Mike.

Speaker 8 (12:41):
Hey, guys, it is Mike from Knoxville. I am calling
two days in a row.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
But these repeat callings.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
I don't know, Mike and what was the other guy's name?
Will go for it, Mike basic names.

Speaker 8 (12:55):
Come on, guys, come on, you gotta show some love.
But anyway, so I'm getting to Yeah, I guess some
uh stuff yesterday talking about uh DJ Lagway from Florida
hit the portal and some of his tweets that he's
sending out kind of tie in to Will Stein and
some of the coaches at the University of Kentucky, and
I guess my my question is, what do you guys

(13:16):
think it would Kentucky even be a player and getting
a you know, a recruits as Lagway with his status.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
And are question what could we get Lagway?

Speaker 7 (13:29):
No, that's not happening. They are locked in on Cutter
Bully and I get I mean, that's the most definitive
I've heard it. Do you this is Cutter Buwlly's team
next year. Yes, okay, unless something goes wrong.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
I did not news on this show.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
I kind of I mean, I didn't know that they weren't,
but I just I didn't realize it was that definitive.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
Ben, go ahead, Ben, hey man, I.

Speaker 9 (13:51):
Just said for I just had a quick question for you,
and Shanda Fricket's got a second go for it.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (13:59):
Hey, so with your law degree, you could probably answer this,
but I want to see if Shannon can get it right.
You can tell him if he's right. Friend of mine
just sent us law school at UK and he's telling
me some of the questions that were on his final exam.
The last question of his final law school exam was this, Shannon,
if a man from Mount Washington divorces his wife, is

(14:21):
she's still his sister?

Speaker 5 (14:23):
Oh that's brutal. That's brutal.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Shit that is I appreciate the call that is mocking
Bullet County as being some backwards place, and I don't
think that's very nice.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Never do that to my face though, that's the thing
you call in like you're a tough guy. You would
never say that to my face.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
You don't think he would, No, what if he saw
you in your little skivies from OVW You don't think
you think he'd.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Get big boy? Come on, Guys are always tough when
they're texting and tweeting.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Interesting that Bullet County get so many jokes because it's
basically just a suburb of.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Let me tell you, Bullet County is way nicer than
Jefferson County.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
It's Fern Creek extended.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
Yeah, it's Fern Cree close. Oh you think it's nicer
than Jefferson Camp.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
I know it's nicer than Jefferson County. I've lived in
Jefferson County, parts of Jefferson County in absolute dumb.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
But parts of Bullet County here.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, it's called Shepherdsville.

Speaker 7 (15:15):
That's why I was with class Shannon. We live in
Mount Washington's.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Right, Ah, you live in Mount Washington.

Speaker 7 (15:19):
Yeah, oh a couple of years now.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
I didn't know they're two years ago.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Look at you, So you're both Bullet County.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Not bring the Mountain dew in here, knowing that you
two both were gonna be Bullet Counties five nine, two,
eight oh, twenty two eighty seven. We'll take a break
very back, Chaozo welcome back Tucky Sports Radio. If I'm
nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, the texts
machine is seven seven two seven four five two five four.
One person rise, Matt. Did you ever think you would
hear the term cap space with college sports? No, but

(15:49):
that's the way it is, and that's how it's gonna be.
I don't it's interesting you use that term. I don't
exactly think of it as cap space, but I guess
to some extent it is. I mean, because you're figuring
out you've got a limited amount of rep share, who's going.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
To get what?

Speaker 7 (16:03):
Specifically Reugh share?

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah, I mean you're gonna have to, So I mean
there's something to it.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
One person writes, Matt, I, uh, when you started talking
about Trump's tweet about about Reiner, I was like, uh, oh,
here we go. But I played it for a lot
of my MAGA relatives and everybody generally agreed with you.
Is that a good sign? I think it's a good sign.
I think Shannon, almost everybody thought that was inappropriate. Like

(16:29):
on Twitter, some people wrote back, but here's the common
denominator of everybody that wrote back Shannon defending it. Anonymous
accounts people who had their name on it, wrote yeah,
I voted for him, but like he shouldn't say, and.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
The people defending are going, yeah, but what about?

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Yeah? What about? What about what this random girl with
a ring in her nose said ten years ago?

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Like differences? He's the president.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
He's the president.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
You're held to a higher stand.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
The president is.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Held to higher standard if you if you are going
to justify bad behavior by pointing to someone else with
bad behavior, we will end up in a cycle of
the worst behavior on earth, because you can always find
somebody else who did something bad. The question is like,
I am held to a higher standard then wild cat

(17:21):
bob in your face? Right, Adam Luckett is higher Like
Adam Luckett says Cutter Bowley's coming back and is going
to be the starter for better or worse. Adam, you
have to be right, you know what I mean? Cats
in their eye can say that and be wrong and
nobody cares.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
But Adam Luckett's name is on it. He's gonna You're
held to a higher standard. You know that, right? So
who should be held to a higher standard than the president?
If I'm wrong?

Speaker 7 (17:47):
Blame Nick Grolsch.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
There you go.

Speaker 7 (17:50):
OK, So you're throwing Nick Rouse under the bus. I'll
hold I stand on what I said.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
Man, Okay, I think I heard him blaming Nick Kroush?
Did you? Did you? I think I heard.

Speaker 7 (18:04):
So.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
The good thing about the one thing is I feel
like virtually everyone recognized that was bad behavior. And that's
a good start. That's a good start to cleaning up
what has been infecting our country for ten years, which
is just nastiness. And he's not the only cause of
the nastist but he's part of it. And we got
to get rid of that because he's gonna be gone

(18:25):
one day and everybody that hates him, everybody loves him, like,
we gotta get We gotta have anough. We can't have
a war where we If we keep hating each other
like this, the country will fall.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
It's okay to say, you know, you voted for somebody.
It's okay to say it's even okay to say you
like the person, but it's a bad thing that they
it's not a cult.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Like just say I like him, but he messed up.
You can do that. We do it to our parents.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Our kids.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
I love you, Johnny, but but but you can't do that.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
That's okay. Randall.

Speaker 10 (18:57):
Go ahead, Randa, with Myron's question earlier, do we need
do we really need freshman on the basketball team? I
don't believe we do, you know, I mean, pick up
one freshman that's really good and then bringing up her classmen,
because look at the last three teams that hang championship banners,

(19:18):
they had more majority seniors. Last year we had seven
seniors on the team, and look at the success we ask.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
It's a great point. And also, but here's what I
wanted to Randall, is that a product of COVID, meaning
the seniors were like a lot older and a lot
more experience.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
I wonder, and may and we'll see. I don't know
the answer to this. In three years, will that be
the same or was that the unique circumstances of COVID
keeping guys in school.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
Et cetera.

Speaker 11 (19:48):
Right?

Speaker 10 (19:48):
And then the nil.

Speaker 12 (19:52):
Twenty one? Yeah, the age is twenty one plus. But
the more successful teams that are winning championships, or the
team that are majority senior and.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
Junior, appreciate the call. It's a really good point.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Let me ask you on the football side, does it
make sense to pay money to freshmen in football when
they can leave after a year.

Speaker 7 (20:17):
No, but sometimes to get a player you have to
take calculated risk, right, get him in your facility, and
then see if you can keep onto him and then
let him grow in your building.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
So it used to be guys would sign twenty five players.
The scholarships have gone up from eighty five to one
oh five, so they could still do that if they want.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
If you were a coach, would you get a lot
of freshmen? How would you do it?

Speaker 6 (20:39):
Well?

Speaker 7 (20:39):
Bill Belichick just signed I think fifty freshman, forty to
I think maybe forty. I would not do that. I
think that is the wrong thing to do. I think
you have to have a bath.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
I thinks he has job security to sign forty freshmen,
does he?

Speaker 7 (20:52):
I think they pivoted thinking portal wasn't the answer, and
they're going to get a lot of freshmen. We'll see
how that works out. My guess it doesn't work out
very well. But I think you have to have a balance, Matt.
You have to supplement. You have to have a balance.
You can't go all in one way or the other.
How do you get seniors into your team. I'd rather
have seniors that have been in my program. Yeah, for
some for a few years. What good does it do

(21:13):
you to get a one and done? Just load up
on one and done seniors every year to build like
your organization how you want it and to have balance.
And the best way I think to have year to
year's success is to have you know, you're bringing in guys,
but you have a backbone in your organization of guys
going up through the program.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
And a lot of the guys that were surprisingly successful
last year were guys that had come up through the program.

Speaker 7 (21:35):
Well, part of the it wasn't the season one is
a success, but when they started playing well and have success,
it was guys they recruited specific encoders class JC.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
What's up JC?

Speaker 11 (21:47):
Real quick? With Adam as the steven Soul's ships failed
for sure?

Speaker 7 (21:53):
Yeah, yes, yeah, I do not expect steven Souls on
the team next year.

Speaker 11 (21:57):
Okay. Also, uh, and you're asdmiron if we had elite players,
I was really disappointed. He said, to find elite.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
I mean that you know in some way, Jason, that
almost answers the question, you know what I mean? Like
if you say to find elite, that then that means
we don't have it, because you know.

Speaker 11 (22:18):
You can't say he has to be. That's no, he
doesn't have to be he he maybe he cannot be.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
I don't think.

Speaker 11 (22:28):
Maybe we have one elite we have one elite player,
he hasn't played yet.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
I totally appreciate the call. I agree we may have
one elite player. I think we have a chance to
have two really good college players, which is low and
okay in no way, and a really good role player
college in diabate remains to be seen what Chandler moreno

(22:55):
in Jasper's careers will be. And then we have role
players and the wild card with quaintance whenever he gets
quaints is the guy who can be elite yet But
like I don't know because we haven't seen him yet,
so I don't. But no, he's right when when when
Myron says, define elite by the very definition, we don't
have it because one thing about cal is he brought
in so many elite players. We know what that looks like.

(23:18):
We know what elite looks like. You can't fool it.
We've seen it a lot over the years. Hey, if
I'm nine two eight, twenty two eighty seven, we'll take
a break. Be right back here with Shannon Adams KSR.

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And do you have to play this on our last show?
I know, right, yeah, that which will be the twenty third.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
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Speaker 5 (23:50):
Okay, Yeah, well so then play it Friday.

Speaker 7 (23:53):
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Speaker 5 (23:54):
I just ta's like our moment, every.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Little drummer little drummer boy version of it.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Yeah, that's weird. That's how I know it's Christmas. I
don't get in the spirit until you play that. I
just feel like this little premature spirit.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Yeah, I got it. I gotta get gifts. I haven't
done that yet.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
What are you doing? Like you're just gonna like go
Amazon for everything.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
I mean, I'm gonna do online. I'm not going to
a store.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
You understand though, If you're gonna do online like Christmas
is in nine days.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
I mean that's what people say, but like you can,
but there are. He's gonna be a little weird.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Though, because I'm gonna be gone starting Friday, so I've
got to like figure out where to send them. You know,
we have to send them to the New Orleans Bowl
so that I can take them. I'm gonna have to
figure out how, I uh, how how I make that happen.
One thing before we go back to football, the Lexington
A Court upheld Lexington's ban on puppy and kitten sales.

(24:55):
You know, in the city of Lexington you cannot sell
dogs and cat unless you're a license breeder. Which I
remember us talking about Shannon when this passed, and I
was shocked. This was a rule. I didn't know it
was a rule. Is that do you know what the
rule is in Louisville? Can you can you do it
in lout.

Speaker 7 (25:13):
I'm not sure, but I do know, like that's a
you know, is.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
There anywhere else in Kentucky you can't do it? I'm
because like so apparently the court. So the court said
that you can do that. So you can't buy them
in stores. You can't buy them just like on street.
So we can buy them for a license breeder. And
that's it. And the reasoning is they're like, we have
too many dogs and cats anyway, adopt them. Stores, however,

(25:41):
can have dogs and cats in them for the purpose
of encouraging adoption.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
But they can't like Altmart, well like.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
PetSmart, though they were the they're the ones that sued
because they wanted to be able to sell pets, but
they have lost that they can. They lost, so Lexington's
ordinance was upheld. What's the law in Louisville? Did you
look it up?

Speaker 13 (26:05):
Share it? Says?

Speaker 3 (26:07):
I said, can you sell dogs in Louisville? The answer
is yes, but with significant restrictions. Louisville banned the retail
sell of dogs.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
That's exactly what Lexington stores. Yeah, so Lexington and Louisville.
I don't know about small towns around the state. I'm
not sure what the law is there is this like
a common law? Like is this the law everywhere?

Speaker 3 (26:28):
I always thought you could just get dogs or cats
from anybody, but I guess I was doing it.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
I remember as a kid we would go I think
there was a pet store in that what is it
across the street from Lexington Green whatever that shopping center is,
and I think we would go in and I hated
it because the dogs were rock And I guess.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
That thing is doesn't exist anymore, or maybe I don't know.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Did they still have pet Smarts, because like I guess
they have to sell pet yah Sidekicks pet Smarts.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
There's another big brand store.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
But I don't know, Shannon, like in the rest of
the country, is it banned.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
I'm not really sure, not sure, but I mean what
I am sure is that people are still selling animals regardless,
and they may not be doing it legally, but people
are still like, you know, if you have a dog
and it has pupps or kittens, people are gonna be
selling those from their house. So is that illegal from
person to person?

Speaker 5 (27:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Is that illegal just to cell itate your house puppy
five dollars.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Or maybe if you're just giving them away it's.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Not well giving them I think is fine. I think
that's it's saiding the thing. You can still give them.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Away, okay, but you can't sell them well maybe in.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
A retail store, but I don't know if you can
sell them just in your life.

Speaker 7 (27:44):
Yeah, I mean, I guess for for profit business and
want you going through the registration.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Selling them period. I read the person who sponsored the
bill or the city ordans, and she said, we have
too many dogs and cats all ready that are not
having a home. We don't need policies that encourage more
because we don't have like they get abandoned and all
these like you know, you have to put them down

(28:11):
and they take up care and they put up Yeah,
so I just didn't know. I remember when this first
came out, I didn't realize this was the like the
thing it was. It makes sense to me, but I
don't know anything about dogs and cats, so like I'm
not a good judge.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I remember us talking about this when this first happened,
and we were like voting what we think should happen.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
But well, I don't remember what my opinion was then,
what is it now? But my opinion now is I
think it's good to have this rule, yeah, because I
just do.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Well, anything that's gonna stop them from being like put
down or well, if.

Speaker 7 (28:46):
You're an abandon if you're a family looking to purchase dog,
you might get it for cheap somewhere else, but it
might come with problems that you don't know about where
if you go through a breeder, it can be a
safer probably.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
People to adopt.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
I think the main point of this is you want
to encourage people to adopt the dogs with cats we
already have.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
Yeah, I think, right, But then are you encouraging them
to go to puppy mills, which aren't good.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
We don't want them to go to I think puppy
mills are banned in this. You have to be a
license breeder, and they have all these rules, right and
then like those are like two thousand to five thousand dollars,
is what the article said, So like not everybody can
for a dog. Well, you get what's the mark, You say,
what's the dog?

Speaker 7 (29:30):
You get all that, and they are no, No, you're
going over a thousand for a full breed. If you
want a full breed Golden Retriever, you're not getting it
for five hundred.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
I'd rather have a mutt.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
How much is a is a full whatever you just said,
you're good, Like if you get a full breed doodle
or Golden Retriever, you're thousands, you're into the thousands, some
two to three, especially some of these doodles that they're crossbreed.

Speaker 7 (29:53):
You know, golden the.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Most expensive dog, Let's say it like a reasonable like, like,
what's the dog that people have that is the most
expensive dog?

Speaker 5 (30:02):
Is it a Golden Retriever?

Speaker 7 (30:05):
I would I would assume it's those those full breed
Then specifically the doodles that are all the rage.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
And what's a doodle?

Speaker 7 (30:11):
It's like they golden retriever and a poodle have a kid,
and that's a golden dude.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Like, yeah, what do you do to create googles?

Speaker 7 (30:20):
And well it's a big money and that's this does
big money.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
That's kind of gross to me when you start cross
like that.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
He's right, though, five thousand dollars some of these dogs
go for you say, the most expense, Well, that's the
most expensive ever ever sold. Five point seven. Imagine you
spent five million dollars on.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
A dog and then what if you hated it or.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
It gets run over? Let it off? The reason immediately
gets run over.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
Glenn, Go ahead, Glenn.

Speaker 14 (30:48):
Glenn, just just wondering. Yeah, I'm here looking for a
little ranking here and in how things would flow. Which
is better or worse?

Speaker 13 (30:59):
Showing up at a foot.

Speaker 14 (31:00):
Ball bowl game with a can of baked beans to
cover your admission? Are we high school Friday night football?
They have a four legged card table beside the sidewalk
and a couple parents collecting the bait cans of baked beans?
Or is it showing up at your company holiday pot
luck with the can of green beans.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Luck Shannon showing up with a can of green beans
to the pot luck to me is is and I
appreciate the call.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
It's very poor by I love Shann.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
But I didn't have to bring anything. I've at least
put for an effort. You know I brought a can
of beans.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
Is that an effort?

Speaker 15 (31:37):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (31:38):
Well, let me ask you. Did you buy the can
of beans or were they just in your in your cab?

Speaker 3 (31:42):
They were just in there.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
I thought they were just there.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Let me be clear. I want to make sure I
get this right. It was Pat Land who sued Pat
Smart only uses animals for humanes.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
I've got her answer on the most expensive breed, it's
a tibet Tibetan mast of generally considered the most expensive
breed of dog, and it averages somewhere between. It says
two all the way up to ten thousand dollars for
a dog, a Tibetan What masterstiff mastiff?

Speaker 5 (32:12):
What is that?

Speaker 7 (32:14):
I think it's like a mountain dog, isn't it?

Speaker 5 (32:16):
Shannon?

Speaker 7 (32:16):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Okay, so it's like you wouldn't want.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
To take you to Mount Everest.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
I saw a video this is off topic, shockingly of
the top of Mount Everest, and I thought the top
of Mount Everest was like deserted in my mind, like
the people who made it there, they get there and
there's like.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
This peaceful silence. Uh huh.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
There was a long line of people waiting in line
to get to the top so they could take their
picture and then go down the other side.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Like it was like a five hour wait. It was
like they were going to Denny's. And I thought, so here.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
I thought Mount Everest was like this peak of human
achievement and everybody's standing there like they're with their baked beans.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
Trying to get in the book over.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Isn't that easy to get to the top.

Speaker 7 (33:06):
I don't think it's easy.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
I just think that, like I guess so many people
think they're whatever's yeah, mountain climbers.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, I just saw the video. I mean it might
have been fake, but I Dennis and Richmond go ahead, Dennis.

Speaker 16 (33:23):
I.

Speaker 11 (33:26):
I don't.

Speaker 17 (33:27):
I'm a person that thinks that as long as Kentucky
is not giving equal money to the football program the
rest of the SEC, then it doesn't matter who the
coach is, they're not going to compete.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Do you agree with that?

Speaker 7 (33:44):
Adam not necessarily because even if they had, if it
was even across the board, Kentucky still offer They're still
competing at a disadvantage because they don't have the resources
or tradition as these other schools. Kentucky has to win
in the margins. And that's that's still going to be
true even if you got a little less money.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
But just like Indiana and vand did they win in
the margins this year or did they just spend more money?
Like I don't even know what's the answer to that question.

Speaker 7 (34:11):
They up there and eyel but they still want in
the margins. They won with evaluation, implementation and star quarters.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
Do you still think they can do that? Yes?

Speaker 7 (34:18):
One hundred? Now whatever fiber am I being?

Speaker 6 (34:21):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (34:22):
With every fiber in your beam? Yeah? All right, there
you go. I mean, Dennis, it's every fiber and his bean.

Speaker 6 (34:29):
Let me ask you this, uh wear in a cycle
right now? Then we're gonna have to go out and
finde a bunch offensive alignment again. And as soon as
we're get in that cycle of wanting done, sim do.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
You agree with that?

Speaker 6 (34:42):
What are you seeing that?

Speaker 7 (34:43):
There's that's the first thing that Will Stein and this
new offensive line coach have to fix. It's been a
problem that has been kicked down the road and they
have to fix it, and they have to fix it
through high school recruiting. That's going to take a couple
of years to fix.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
They're going to.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Probably have to do another couple of years of seniors
of portal lineman, but they've got to eventually rebuild them
like this.

Speaker 7 (35:03):
This first twenty twenty seven class. When they get here,
they have to get three to four guys like legit
prospects that could come in and potentially be starts for you,
where in the last couple of years they've only gotten
one to two offensive linemen a year, Matt, and that's
been a it's been a mistake, to be honest.

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(35:48):
and Shennon's KSR.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
Welcome back. A lot of dog texts.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Coming in, but first tomorrow night doing triviat KSPAR. I'm
writing the questions tonight practice my play by play. Get
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(36:16):
the end of the year and would love to would
love to have you out. UK announces the official hiring
of general manager Pat Biondo and Pete Nachta as.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
The assistant to the general manager the for UK Football.
You like those guys, right, You think they're good good hires.

Speaker 7 (36:34):
Yeah, I think just in general. Just moving to like
this more kind of modern for an office structure, I
think is a good move, bo will Stein.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
These dogs cost a lot more than I realized. People
are riding me like they it's a big business. They
paid five thousand dollars for a doodle, so.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Well that I paid for my first car.

Speaker 7 (36:51):
Yeah, I call dogs.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Are five thousand dollars pair of doodles, English bulldogs. I'd
like the English bulldog to go up against the French
bulldog and the Bulldog World Cup. Two thousand dollars for
a cavea poo?

Speaker 6 (37:08):
What is.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
C a v a pooh?

Speaker 3 (37:14):
What's a poodle mixer?

Speaker 5 (37:16):
Pure bread Golden retievers go for two thousand to four
thousand dollars on the low end.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Wow, it's a spaniel and a poodle mix.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Mix.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
I just I feel like this nature is not happy
with that. I mean, people don't are like, I've got
an elephant and a.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Frog, but there's still dogs. You're missing the point here.
There's still dogs.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
Okay, so that's the same thing, the same Okay. Well,
I don't know anything about it, but like one of them.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Will be big and one I don't know uf your analysis.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
I'm not a dog person. I think people can tell Pete.
Go ahead, Pete.

Speaker 13 (37:55):
Hey, guys, as long as we're talking about how awesome
Bullet County is, I need to throw this name out there.
Uh Student assistant Cole Britt uh Vince left the tight
end room. Cole Britt came in the tight end room
and all of a sudden for one year we became
tighty in you. So I think Coach Stine need to

(38:15):
make sure Cole Britt uh.

Speaker 7 (38:19):
And I do not, but he sounds like he's doing
a great job over there.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Yeah he was.

Speaker 13 (38:26):
He was on only two teams have have won the
six A state title other than say next Trendy and Male,
and one of those is bull at East three when
he was on that staff and on the side on
the sideline. He's the guy that was wearing the green
this year. You know, the three guys who are different colors.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
All right, well, I appreciate the call shout out to
Cole Uh. Colebritt the only guy they're keeping his am
R Stuart right. Yes, now, they haven't come out and
said that, so we'll have to see what goes on.
But as of right now, the are and is there
some support staff guys. I think they're gonna some guys
in recruiting department are gonna say for the most heartline
stay Mike cartline that we've heard that he's he's gonna
be in the same role as last year on the staff.

(39:07):
But mostly it's been a clean sweep out of there.
They're gonna have a lot of new faces.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
Todd Todd, Hey, guys.

Speaker 8 (39:15):
What off subject today, But just clarify about Billy Clyde American.

Speaker 14 (39:21):
I did not work at.

Speaker 8 (39:22):
American at the time. I worked for the sister store,
Murray's across town.

Speaker 6 (39:26):
And it is a fact that what you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
Also, so you're saying that Billy Clyde American story.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Is correct, absolutely, Like, oh, well, doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
And and wait, wait, we can't go into details. But
it involves like a pool, the swimming pool, right, yes.

Speaker 13 (39:48):
They they have since uh.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Out, yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah, we're gonna need it. We're
gonna need some We're gonna need some scrubbing there. All right, well,
thank you, thanks for the information, Steve, go ahead, Steve.

Speaker 15 (40:08):
Hey, guys, I was curious if you ever heard Martin
Pope talk about a pump steak at three point Lives
you watch. I always thought it was kind of basketball
one oh one. But if you do a pump steak
and the defender leaves his feet instead of moving away
from him, you can move into him and you get
three free throws. And think our kids don't do that,

(40:29):
And I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
That's a fair point. I've wondered that over the years.
I appreciate the call. Reggie Miller was the king of
doing that, and other guys have too. You know, you
go a pump fake when they jump, especially if they
don't jump straight up and they jump at you go
into him la myt Butler would do that. I think
he did that a few times last year.

Speaker 7 (40:45):
Yeah, I think Kobe brad got I want to say
he did the James Harden move where he you know.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Move to me is dirty, Like I mean, people don't
call it, but I don't think they should. Blake, go ahead, Blake.

Speaker 16 (40:57):
Hey, I just just wanted to say that I think
taking calls on the radio during the bowl game is
a fantastic idea. And then also also for Adam I
just wanted to ask you said Cutter Bowl, he's going
to be the starter next year, which I think is
a great idea. So I think he showed he can
play well. But is it the report that will Stein
might bring that freshman or sophomore quarterback from Oregon that

(41:18):
he recruited.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
Do you think he brings him in with him? Appreciate
the call?

Speaker 7 (41:21):
I do not as of right now.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
All right there you go.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
This is very definitive and puts your name on it.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
I gotta say to you, that's what I like. You
put your name on. You one't cat fan in your ear.
You put your name on.

Speaker 7 (41:34):
They are invested in making sure Cutter Bowley this year,
next year, and they want him to be the starting quarterback.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
All right, let's go to Draft Kings Pick of the day.
Go to Draft Kings. Bet five dollars. You can win
up ten hundred dollars or two hundred dollars in bonus
bets if you get it correct. We're gonna do the
I as four ass Salute to Veterans. Bawl, wonder what
I ask?

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Four s A lot of letters.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
If you the four looks like isis? If you're not careful,
you gotta make sure to annuncia.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
We're taking everybody out of here.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
I asked four.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Ass salute to veterans, Bowl, Troy and Jacksonville State.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
Who you got.

Speaker 7 (42:13):
Look, I'm rolling with a former Kentucky Wildcat, Jared Parker.
Troy on the money line?

Speaker 5 (42:18):
Money line? What do you got with them?

Speaker 4 (42:20):
Let's go with Troy. Let's go with Troy. Sitting in
my room, going I got. I have to because I
don't really know the Troy and Jacksonville State players forget well,
I just give names of like other people.

Speaker 7 (42:33):
Former Kentucky quarterback Gavin Wimsit plays for Jacksonville State.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
Does he get to play?

Speaker 7 (42:37):
Yeah, he's like a wildcat quarterback for them.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Huh. All right, so that's what I'll go. Wimsit under center.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
That's a formation, you know.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Wimsit under center.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Johnson in motion, takes a snap, looks back, peanut butter
sticks to jelly.

Speaker 7 (42:52):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
All right, Thank you all very much, Adam, great stuff. Thanks,
we'll see you later. It's kr
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The Burden

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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.

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