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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Comedy Off Byway. Welcome to our two of Kentucky Sports
Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Welcome back.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
I remember two eight five nine two eighth twenty two
eighty seven. Text machine is seven seven two seven seven
four five two five before we are back at the
bar tomorrow. Hopefully we'll have Ryan Andrew. If Drew can
move tomorrow, we'll see. The watch party is at nine
o'clock tomorrow, and then for volleyball, and then my trivia
is tonight at seven o'clock. People are giving another big

(00:59):
time covers with a little help from my friends.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Joe Cock.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
That's a good one, yep, it's a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Uh, Johnny Cash hurt. I mean, that's a good one,
but it's not one of the biggest of my time. No,
Gin and Juice by the Gords is maybe my favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
That's your favorite one favorite bluegrass version? Yeah, I don't
have to play that one.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
There's so much drumming LBC. It's kind of hard being snoop.
You gotta play that when we come back.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, wagon will Oh that's a bit, you know what.
That's a big one, even though I hate it. Yeah,
you're talking about the Darius Rucker one because the other one's.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
So much better. But you're right that that's a big one.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
I wanted to do something before we go back to
phones little nonsports if you don't mind, yep, Channon thirty,
What year do you graduate high school?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Two thousand and one?

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Right, I graduated high school in nineteen ninety six. The
thirty year anniversary of me graduating high school is this year.
Oh God, comeough, old Phil, I mean, think about that,
thirty years ago.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
That's crazy to me to think it's been that long.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, I remember, like you know, in parents having thirty years,
I'm going, you're so old thirty exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I remember the moment my mom turned forty and I.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Was like, you're gonna drop dead any minute.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
It's not gonna be with this any much longer.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Here we are, here are.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Life does come at you fast.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
So I went and pulled up the top thirty box
office movies the year I graduated from high school. Okay,
let's go through these and see what have you seen
these or not?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Are you ready? Let's go Beavis and butt Head do America.
It's number thirty classic.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
I can't believe that's been thirty years ago.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Thirty years ago for Beavis and butt Head do America.
That was number thirty. Number twenty nine Toy Story.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Toy Story is huge, but when it came out, Channon
only only twenty ninth at the box office. I would
have thought that would have been top five.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
You yeah's huge, huge now.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Twenty eighth Grumpier Old Men.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
I don't think I saw the part two.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
I didn't see the sequel.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
No.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I saw grumpy, but not grumpy.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
I'm not grumpier old man making more money than Toy Story.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
That's kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Twenty seventh Jumanji.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, of course I saw that one.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yes, that was the first one. Had Robin Williams. I
think is that right? Second one had the rock twenty
six to ten Cup.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Didn't see that one the Kevin Costner Golf movie. Uh
didn't see it.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
When you hit a bunch of balls in the water
in a row, they say it's like ten cup. Ryan
Lemon does that a lot? Yeah. Twenty fifth jingle all
the way?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I think I saw that on like AMC a couple
of days ago.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
It's Tim Allen, right, yeah, am I correct about that?
I think it is twenty fourth primal Fear.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
And hold on jingle all the way as Arnold Schwartzenegger.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh it's Arnold Schwartzenegg. Yeah, okay, what was an primal fear?

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Didn't see that one?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I believe is that look? Is that like Warren gear
See if that's is that it Richard Gear not? I'm
thinking Warren Baty. Is that Richard gear is primal Fear?
I was working at the movie warehouse during this time,
so I feel like.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
I have If it is, he's not in like the top.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Who's in the top? Who are the stars?

Speaker 3 (04:21):
I'm going to make sure I get the right Yeah,
you're right. Never mind, there's another one called primal fear
there was a TV movie. That's the one I was on.
So you're right, it is Richard Gear.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Richard Gear right. Twenty third executive Decision. I have no
idea what that I.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Never even heard of? That never heard And how does
that higher than Toy Story and all these others?

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Twenty second Twelve Monkeys. I loved twelve Monkeys when I
worked at Movie Warehouse. That was like Brad Pitt's follow
up to seven. I think yep. Twenty first Jack Jack,
that's Robin Williams. I don't think you could make that
movie now.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I don't know if I saw that one.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Isn't it like? Is it Robin Williams playing like a
mentally handicapped person?

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Maybe look up Jack movie Jack. I think I'm right
about that. Twentieth is Courage Underfire, Meg Ryan. I believe
that has a young Matt Damon.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
I think so, yep, yep. Was that right about jackbar Yeah,
I'm looking at that right now.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
You couldn't make that movie.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
No.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Nineteenth Cable Guy Jim Carroll, classic classic, great one, eighteenth
Jerry Maguire another classic.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Show Me the Money, seventeenth Broken Arrow. I believe that's
got John.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Travolta, and it's about like a rogue nuclear warhead. Am
I right about that?

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Word for word terrorist steal nuclear warheads from the USA?
Look at that, but don't count on the pilot and Parksy.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
This is when I worked at movie warehouse. I remember
these sixteenth Mister Holland's Opus. That was Richard dry Fists
and he like taught at a high.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
School music I think, yep. Fifteenth Space Jam that's it, yep, yeah,
the Monstars Classics, fourteenth Star Trek First Contact.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Did not see that one.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I never watched those. Thirteenth The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
I don't remember this.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
I saw that one.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Is that Jim Carrey Demi Moore. Demi Moore was the
Hunchback of Notre Dame. He's the top Like, No, she's
not the Hunchback of Notre Dame. No, she's I have
no memory of that movie as.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Murudo, she's not.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
The twelve Phenomenon, never seen it. Don't remember that eleventh Eraser.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
I haven't seen that one. Phenomena is another John Travolta movie,
you know what he I.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Remember Travolta was hot during this piece.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
The Racers, Arnold Schwartzenegger again, okay.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Tenth First Wives Club? I remember that that was all
the women.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Like he we Go? Is that Dying Keaton in First
Wives Club?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yep? Goldie hawn Gosh.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I love this time? Ninth, one hundred and one Dalmatians.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Think Glenn Close was in that.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
You know, like all the the you know, all the
top build cast.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Okay. Eighth A Time to Kill Matthew McConaughey, Ashley Judd,
Sandra Bullock, Sandra Bullock, maybe Samuel L.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Jackson, Yep, I think so, Okay, yep, yep, you're right.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Seventh The Birdcage. That was that Robin Williams and Nathan Lane.
I don't remember what it.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Was about, but they were on Broadway or something. Is
that right? Sixth Ransom m Ransome. I don't remember that one.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Mel Gibson, Mel Gibson and Lieutenant Dan Gary Gary Gary.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Sonise is in that. Okay, Number five, So these are
the top five movies in ninety six. The nutty Professor
Eddie Murphy played all the parts, right, he was huge.
That movie was huge. What was it?

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Hercules, Hercules, Hercules?

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Hello? How happy this makes you have? Movies thirty years ago.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well, I don't know ifverybody else has enjoyed it, Shing,
but you and I are and I don't care. This
fourth the Rock Nicholas Cage and Sean Connery and like
they're escaping from Alcatraz?

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Okay? Number three was the first mission Impossible.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
That was the first one.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
That was the first one with Tom Cruise. Number two,
number two Twister, Yeah, I remember since Drew is out
with a locked up back. The first time in my
life my back ever locked up was watching Twister at
the London, Kentucky Cinema. True story. We're playing in a

(09:05):
tennis tournament. I won. I played.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Later in the day, I went to watch Twister. The
change in temperature from the heat outside to the cold
in there, I locked my back up and I had
to lay on the floor of the movie theater.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I was in so much pain.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
It was a big hit to the tennis team.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yes, and then finally number one movie, which made a
hundred million dollars and more than Twister at number two.
Independence Day.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, yep, Will Smith. So there's your little walk down
memory lane.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
I'm just impressed that you know, like all the top
build actors and actresses for like every movie in the
top thirty from thirty years ago.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
But I worked at movie warehouse, and when they would
come in.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
You had to tell them where to go.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
I had to like put them on the shelf, and
so that that's the only reason I know them. There's
some duds in there.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
By the way. Yeah, there's some really bad movies in there.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, some of them I've never heard of, never seen,
and probably never will see.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
My prime year would be ninety five because those movies
would have come out on video in ninety six.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, so that would be my prime year. All right,
it was your little detour. You're nineteen ninety six movies detour.
I know some of y'all liked it. Don't act like
you didn't, Blake, Go ahead, Blake.

Speaker 7 (10:19):
My question was, so, I think we've seen jmis affecting
the high school recruiting, which is bad, But for Pope,
I don't think it's like worst case scenario because he's
shown he likes to use to transfer portal. More So,
my question was, d you see the JAM ideal affecting
the portal gets because then I think that's where you
have to start to.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Really, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
I think it might affect a couple of them, but
I don't know about the rank and file.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I appreciate the call.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
I could see it having an effect on a couple
of the guys, But I think what I've been told
about the portal is that some of the issue there
is not understanding the market and over pain and un
they're paying for guys. But we'll see, I mean, we'll see.
I think it's probably more of an issue for the

(11:07):
high school guys though, I mean the Christian Collin kids. Shennon,
he signed anil deal.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
With Kroc Crocs.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
M h, Well that's not a JMI deal, right, that's
his own deal. And the amount of kids that can
do that on their own are not many, right, I mean,
I'm not sure that you know Denzel Aberdeen has a
connection at Crocs, But the top high school players in
America can. And that's where your problem is.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
That's the thing. I mean, these guys that are the
top elite athletes are going to have so many opportunities
out there. And if there's Kentucky and JMI that says,
well we're restricting you to only this, why would you
go there?

Speaker 2 (11:43):
And as the caller Tom said, how much money does
Central Bank have? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (11:48):
You know what I mean, like, there's only so much,
you know, there's only so much. Like I don't know
how many times you can go to that. Well, I
mean maybe you can. I don't know, but Cole, go ahead, Cole.

Speaker 8 (11:59):
Hey, Mada, Just a quick question. I drove to Baltimore
this past weekend for my first ever Army Navy game.
My son is at the Naval Academy. It was an
amazing experience and I really think that no matter your politics,
it's one of those things you have to check out.
But my question is with the Army Navy game is
historically yeah, it was. The Army Navy game is historically
the only game on on a certain weekend in December,

(12:21):
and there's a push to sort of add some of
the playoff games to that day as well. I want
to know your thoughts and if it should be one
of those things that should remain separate.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
From if you expand the playoffs, it's going to have
to be that weekend. So if I'm Army Navy, I
probably try to say, hey, college football, can we have
our own night or our own day? Because if they
expand the playoffs to twenty four, which I don't know
if they're planning on do that, but if they do,

(12:51):
week one has to be the week of the Army Navy.
So I like that Army Navy gets its own slot
chan And I don't know if it needs its own
day like the whole day, but I certainly think it
should have its own slot.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah. Yeah, and so as long as they keep that,
I'd be okay with. I like that.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, you block off even if it's a noon game,
you know, noon to two, you block that off, and
that is the national game that everybody gets to see,
and it.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Gets great ratings. I saw.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
I mean, they got like nine million people that watched it. No,
I think it deserves its own slot. I don't know
if it deserves its own day, but its own slot
I'm good with.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Justin, go ahead, justin.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Good morning, guys. Hey, coming a couple of questions about
the the JMI stuff, and I want to make it
quick and hopefully I'm not going too fast. You can't
answer them all. My first question is, and please don't
cut me off, because I'm gonna make you.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Got to go quick, because I'm aout to go to break.
I need you just just go.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Go for it. Are you there?

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Justin?

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Justin?

Speaker 3 (14:08):
He just hung up?

Speaker 2 (14:08):
What happened?

Speaker 3 (14:09):
He told him to go, but did he drop his phone?
I think he got nervous and hung up.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
But I wanted it. I wanted.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
But he only had you scolded him before the call.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I didn't scold him. I just wouldn't even go quick,
he said, don't cut him.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Well, you know, like when you tell people to go quick,
they only go slower.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Why is that?

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Because they weren't thinking about it and now they are
so now they're trying to go fast, but they're actually
going slower.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
It makes me sad. Justin call back. I'll put you
directly on.

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Speaker 2 (15:09):
It sounded like though he dropped his phone.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
He was like fumbling with his phone.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
I hope he's all right, all right, we'll be right back.
That's right. This is me now. Ye, it's getting me
all the hope of things out. Yeah, don't don't let
me think about that, although I think he sings this
at age thirty. Right, Yeah, well.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
You need one for your next fifty I'm my next
fifty years.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Uh eight two eighty seven. One person writes, Matt, didn't
you do a TV show on a random Louisville cable
TV station late at night?

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yes? Did you know this, Shannon?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, like every week, every night, every night.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
No Monday through Friday. The Freak Show with Johnny the Freak. Now,
the amount of people that have seen this is a
small amount.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
It was excellent.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
No, it was on the station that OVW is on WBNA.
So this is like seventeen years ago. Johnny the Freak
Renshaw was a radio host in Louisville.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
He was like freak.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
He did like I can't even do it to his voice,
but you know it always sounds like, and he was wild,
and something happened where he got in trouble and he
got let go. But there were still two months left
on the contract, and I was desperate to be on
TV or on the radio, so I agreed to do it.
And it was eleven o'clock.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Every night, and I would drive to this station and
the show was still called the Freak Show, but I
had to host the Freak Show. Somewhere on the Internet,
there's a picture of me hosting the Freak Show. If
you ever see a picture with like a phone number
at the bottom of it. And I got a bowl
cut haircut, and I'd look like I don't fit in

(16:55):
with the set. That's me hosting the Freak Show. And
the Freak Show Shannon took live calls on the air.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
That's dangerous.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Oh yeah, eleven o'clock at night with everyone drunk, and
they didn't know who I was. Like, his audience was wild,
and here I come in, going hello everyone, I'm an
attorney A Frost Brown Todd, and I am the host.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Of the Freak Show. And they would book gas Shannon.
They would put like the Monster Energy girls. Oh and
these women would come in and I'd have to interview them.
What are you going to interview them about?

Speaker 4 (17:33):
I'll tell you all was on that show One night
I co hosted with Kays Ramsey.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Oh my god, you know who my co host was?
One night Maria Montgomery, the raining Miss Kentucky at the time.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
At least she's a fan.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, she was one of the easier ones.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
It was awful. It's the worst show that's ever been
on television. And every night I would have to do it,
and I was like, what are.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
We gonna do? Extreamed live on the internet back before
people did that.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, Remember we used to talk about kaj Ramsey's YouTube
videos on how to kick a football?

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Those were so great.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Some of them are online, some of them arek You
can't unless people grew up with the Kaiji, you can't understand. No,
you can't understand how great it was. All right, a
couple of the things on these movies real quick, before
I go back to the phones jingle all the way.
You mentioned star Arnold Schwarzenegger. Can I tell you who
else was in it?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Sinbad of course, Phil Hartman, Jim Belushi and the Big Show.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
I mean, I need to go back to Watson and
give it a second chance.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
The Big Show was in it.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
The Big Show in ninety six was he Jack?

Speaker 2 (18:40):
He was in it? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Jack was about Robin Williams as a kid who aged
too quickly. I got it confused with simple Jack, okay,
which I don't Was that a parody movie?

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Maybe I don't know that one.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
I don't remember that one twist story being that low
is weird. That's kind of weird. All right, So you
got Justin on right, he got him back? Okay, so
Justin I don't know what happened. But now go ahead
with your question.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
All right, I am gonna make it quick. Don't cut
me off because I'm gonna mention Cal. But it does
pertain to JMI. I'm curious if part of the reason
Cal left had anything to do with the JMI deal,
if it had to do with maybe Barn harpying behind
on the times on how we do things. Another question is,
well that.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
One let's do it as you say, let's do it
as you say, no on the JAMI part, because that
deal was not in place yet, So no, that wouldn't
have had anything to do with it. I do I
think that Mitch and Cal didn't get along and that
that was part of it, sure, but it wasn't the
only part of it. I think there were a lot
of reasons Cal left. But I'm sure you know he

(19:52):
had missed his relationship was not great, But I don't
I certainly wouldn't say it.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Was the only reason.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
Okay, So my next question and is when we were
searching for a head coach, did that effect and maybe
that maybe that deal was not in place, but if the.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Jideal would not have been in place, the jmideal would
not have been in place. So no, it wouldn't have
affected the coaching search. Uh, you know, and then they
got the coach this time they wanted. So I don't think.
All right, so I have two different things. There's a
JMI part of it with in terms of media relations
and all that, and we've talked a lot about that

(20:28):
over the years. Well I'm talking about now is this
little part having to do with recruiting, And like I said,
I think it really only applies to a handful of players.
But the problem is it's the players that we want
the most. But that's my read on it, and I
haven't gotten a lot of answers. Maybe one day we'll
get answers, and it's not what we think.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
But go ahead, Okay, one more question. I'll be done.
I'll promise I won't drop my wirels head said I'll
drive a truck, so it fell off my head. Anyway,
if if we get a new ad, if we hire
somebody that's more with the times, younger, does it right
the ship? Does it make it better? Do we get
rid of this deal? Do we renegotiate this deal? Do

(21:07):
we pick out for.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
What they do?

Speaker 4 (21:10):
I mean, it depends on what they do. I appreciate
the call I've kind of said. I think it would
be nice for Mitch to make a transition to a
new person. But it also depends that the new person
could be great, the new person could be worse. I mean,
that's the risk you have when you change. Might be better,
might be worse. You know, same thing with will Stein

(21:30):
might be better than Mark Stoops might be worse. Mark
Pope might be better than col might be worse. That's
what happens with any change. Kind of just depends on
what they do. Mary go ahead, and Mary me it
is you, Mary go ahead.

Speaker 9 (21:50):
I didn't know you know my name.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I didn't this was before.

Speaker 9 (21:55):
Yeah, but how did you know it was Mary?

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Because it's on the screen here it says, Mary.

Speaker 9 (22:00):
Oh, okay, you said that this was an ask anything day? Yes,
can that be a can that be a personal question?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Fizzl what it is? But sure you can ask?

Speaker 9 (22:11):
Okay? Many times you have said that you don't drink alcohol? Correct,
just wondering.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Why I drink very rarely. I had various people. I mean,
I wrote about this in my book. My biological father,
uh was an alcoholic and I so I know, and
there are other people in my family lineage who have been,
and so I know I was kind of like genetically
predisposed to it. So I just didn't want to kind

(22:39):
of go down that path. And it's also I don't
like not being in control, and so that combination has
made me It's never really been something I.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Was interested in.

Speaker 9 (22:50):
Good. I noticed that you advertise to talk about liquor sometimes, well.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Only in very small context. I've turned a lot more
of that day then done it?

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Thank you, Mary, R Matt, thank you TJ. Smith, personal
injury attorney called TJ. He'll make them pay.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio present it by Stockton Mortgage.
Here's Matt Jones.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
The Freaks did come out at night on the Johnny
the Freak Show. That those When I think about those days,
I remember one time we had the Monster Energy Girls
on and I had a buddy in DC who would
watch it every night and like just send me comments,
and he was like, how do the Monster Energy Girls
have no energy? Because they would just be like, yes, no,

(23:36):
and I'd be like, where's your energy? It's like, no energy?

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Is there? No vid?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Did you find that picture of me?

Speaker 4 (23:45):
I'm surprised Cory Price hasn't found there is a picture online.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
To me, I've never seen video.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
They've had to have archived this.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
I've never seen video from it. There is a picture
that someone like a screenshot and it's got like a
phone number on it, and I've got I think a
jacket and I've got my hair cut.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I need to see.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
It was so terrible.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
By the way, Toy Story came out at the end
of ninety five, So the reason it was so low
is because it was carrying into ninety six.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Somebody asked, what about the year Shannon graduated? By the way,
one of things you'll you'll realize is before Marvel movies,
there used to be a lot of creative movies out there.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Oh yeah, like.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Those almost none of those were like superheroes or any
of that.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
I mean, like, do you go to a lot of
movies still? I know you had that.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
I tried, but I don't go as much as I
used to. Let me read you.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
I'm not gonna go all thirty from your graduating class,
but I'll do fifteen okay, Number fifteen Lara Croft tomb Raider.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Angelina Joelee.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah, I never saw it.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Fourteen Fast and Furious, first one, first of twenty thirteen
American Pie two.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Oh, I love that one. I had that one on DVD.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I did.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
I had about twenty DVDs and that was one of them.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Did you have the first one or just the seond
that's just.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Like the second one.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
You're just like the second one is not interested in
the first.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
No, Part two was actually better interesting.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Number twelve Hannibal The Secret to Silence sequel to Silence
of the Last.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yep, that's a good one.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Eleven A Beautiful Mind. That's a great movie. Russell Crowe.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yep, I think I've seen that one.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Ten Planet of the Apes. How is that one?

Speaker 4 (25:28):
That's the first planet of the Apes. You know there's
been a ton that was the first one. Number nine,
Jurassic Park three.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I don't remember the third one. Do you remember the third? No?

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Again, that's another one that they've got like ten sequels.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
To eight Oceans eleven. I remember when Ocean's eleven came out.
I thought, those are the coolest dudes.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
What was it like, George Clooney, Brad Pitt, don cheatle yep?
Bernie was Was Bernie Mack in it?

Speaker 3 (25:57):
I think he might have been.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yes, I think Bernie Mack was in I've got the
list right here.

Speaker 8 (26:03):
He was.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Who else was in it?

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Let's see Cleaney, Bernie Mac, brad Pitt, no other names.
I wrote a Casey Affleck.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Okay, Casey seventh, Pearl Harbor, yep. I think that had
the guy that my then girlfriend had a crush on.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
His name like Josh Josh Harnett.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Harnet, that's right, Josh Harnet, number six. The Mummy returns five.
Donald Trump would approve rush Hour two?

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Ah, that's right?

Speaker 2 (26:37):
How about Rush Hour to be in the fifth biggest
movie in America?

Speaker 3 (26:41):
They were huge. I think I didn't.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Realize how huge they were. Fourth Monsters, inc. Third Shrek,
and this is where things started to turn. Shannon is
about now second Lord of the Rings, Fellowship of the Ring,
first Harry Potter and so see that's this is about
the time that we decided everything had to be super

(27:06):
hero fantasy.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
It was about two thousand.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
I've never seen those never will Chris?

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Go ahead?

Speaker 10 (27:13):
Chris, Hey, guys, Hey, uh two things?

Speaker 8 (27:18):
One on the tether sides.

Speaker 11 (27:19):
How about Elvis Presley hound Dog?

Speaker 2 (27:22):
That's a cover.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Who did that one originally?

Speaker 8 (27:25):
Uh? I think Big Mama Thornton was her name.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
You've probably heard it.

Speaker 11 (27:28):
If you hear the clip, you probably big Mamaton.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I love her name, just if I don't know anything
about Big Mama.

Speaker 6 (27:35):
Thornton, just like Big Mama Thornton.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
All right, good? What else you got?

Speaker 5 (27:40):
Hey?

Speaker 11 (27:41):
On your Bowl game?

Speaker 8 (27:42):
I hope uh, I can't listen to it.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
I hope you get to take calls because I want
to hear you reaction.

Speaker 8 (27:48):
Producer tells you your first covers in the line, it's
Bob and Jamestown.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
If it's Bob and Jamestown, we're ending that right there.
Appreciate the call. Bob and Jamestown is not allowed to
call the Western Kentucky Southern Mistcap.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
He's not.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
I don't think are you serious about taking calls during
a play by play game. Yes, it's work though.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
But see that's not a change is made.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
Do you think that they said back when we had
rotary phones, that's not a cell phone.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
That's not how phones work.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yeah, but this is like going from a cell phone
back to a rotary phone. If you're taking calls during
a game, that's what the prem it's it's not. Although
Myron doesn't come up with a better catchphrase, it might be.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Better coming out there and going pickle me tinder after
it like come.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
On, like peanut butter and jelly.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
It's like corn like come on man.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Yeah, Mike, tell him to calm down on the catchphrases.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Mike, go ahead, Mike.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Hey man, I got a quick question about your interrupted podcast. Yes,
it really enjoy listening to it. Have you ever considered
asking John Fetterman to be on, because I think I'd
love to.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Have him on. He's there.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
You know, you may remember back when he was Lieutenant
governor of Pennsylvania, he invited us to the to the
state House.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Do you remember that? Back back then?

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Yes, I had seen him on something on TV and
I was like, I really like this guy and he
wears hoodies and and and all that. And then since
he's been a senator, I've reached out to him a
few times and haven't heard anything back. So I, you know,
I have not reached out to him about the podcast,
but I've reached out to him about other things. And
that's a good idea. I'll try again. I mean, I

(29:40):
you know, yeah, I'd love to have him on.

Speaker 12 (29:44):
Great.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Thanks.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
The Terry Miners interview was really good.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Appreciate it, sir, Thank you very much. Let's go to Stephanie.
Go ahead, Stephanie, Hey, first time, long time? Who are
what's up?

Speaker 10 (29:57):
Have you heard of? Are you aware of the toy
drive with Mo Dia Bake today?

Speaker 8 (30:04):
They?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
No, that was Darius's No, what is it? Well?

Speaker 10 (30:09):
I was, I was probably looking for dariuses I was
trying to recall who you had on and I came
across this and it says that he's having a toy
drive today and a little store in Chevy Chase.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, I what so what is the store? I don't
know about it.

Speaker 10 (30:25):
It's like a collections for I forgot what it's called.
Like Kentucky Collections or something.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
At Kentucky Road Show like Jimmy's Kentucky Road Show.

Speaker 10 (30:36):
Yep, that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
So there you go.

Speaker 10 (30:40):
I was like, is that for is it for real?

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yes it is. Yeah, yeah, because he talked about it
on the Leach Report.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yeah, So there you go, Kentucky Road Show. Okay, all right, well,
good luck, appreciate it, Sean, go ahead, Sean.

Speaker 12 (30:54):
Hey, this might be a question for a day when
when when Drew and Ronner here, but you guys can
speak for him. So I'll worked in an office at
one time. We all were former college athletes and very competitive,
and we came up with our own decathlon.

Speaker 7 (31:06):
You's got to pick.

Speaker 12 (31:07):
Two random things that you thought you were good at
and compete against everybody else. If you guys could put
together a decastalon of events, what would those events be
and who would quin?

Speaker 6 (31:17):
Right?

Speaker 4 (31:17):
So let's just say I appreciate the call. What would
be two sports or two events? Shannon, you think you'd
be better at than the rest of the people. I'm
better at ping pong than all of you, so I
would definitely add ping pong. I could crush all of
you in ping pong m.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
I'm trying to think of something I could even do.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I feel like you're good at something, aren't you.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I would say drinking beer, but drewk it out, chuck
me your name, beat and.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Drew at that. I've watched Drew take down men much
stronger than you at that.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yeah, maybe something baseball related. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Ryan's going to be pretty good at that stuff, you know,
to win for the group.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah, I feel confident. I feel confident that I would
beat all of you in any sort of trivia or
any sort of like you know, I don't say any
sort of intellectual thing, but.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
I could probably beat all of you in a foot race.
So I know I could beat Drew right now. He
can end it Kenny of walk. So that'd be between
me and you.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Think you could beat You can't beat Mario well for.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Throwing Mario, and I thought we're talking about you.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Can't be Mario. Now we're too, we'll throw Mario and
billion you ain't beat Mario to foot race, so.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
I guess I'm useless.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Then, I don't think you can win anything. I guess
you could win like a musical challenge.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
You go yea of some sort Yeah, if you're talking.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
About like, uh, like games kind of thing. Yeah, I
don't know. I think Drew's really good at the thing.
Where's the thing you slide the foos of the stuff
on the What do you call that? You know, I'm
talking about like it's like shuffle board, shuffle board.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
But like at bars, what do you call that thing?

Speaker 3 (32:49):
I think it's still called shuffle board.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Okay, he's really good at that. We've played that over
the years. He's really good at that.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, ping pong, I got you, Jeff, who's next, Jeff?

Speaker 8 (33:01):
Hey, good morning.

Speaker 11 (33:02):
Hey you guys doing good morning. I have a question.
And a few years ago I actually got to talk
to Wesley Woodyard and he said when he finished pro football,
he'd like to come back to Kentucky and help coach
and anyone ever contacted him. And I thought, with will
Stein coming in putting together a new staff and I

(33:22):
know it's pretty full, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
I mean I think Wesley could be good. You have
to remember about former players. One of things you have
to remember is this, everybody's inclination is to go get
former players. And I've always had the view, don't get
former players, not because they can't do it, but because
we tend to elevate former players in our minds because

(33:46):
of what they did on the field.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Now, do I think.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Wesley Woodyard could be a good coach, Sure, but there
are probably a lot of other people that could as well.
And for every Wesley Woodyard, there's been somebody else, there's
like twenty other guys that are like him that would
also have a job. So I tend to say, let
the coaches pick, and if it ends up being a
former player, that's awesome. But you know, he's picked four

(34:09):
former U of L players, and I think as long
as they win, I'm good with it. So I think,
like you should, you should certainly hear those folks out.
But there are a lot of former UK players that
would love to be a coach here. You can't make
them all a coach. So I think you just have
to let the coaches do with what they think is right. Good,

(34:31):
appreciate you come.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Got mine, by the way, what and I'll beat you
in ping pong and Tampa at the house. Yeah, I
don't believe that pickleball. I'm the best poketball player out
of it.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
I think if I practice, i'd beat you uh, get
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This is the good life. Who do you think would
come in last in a race between the six of us?
I'm not confident you'd win, but you certainly wouldn't come
in last. He would come in last.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
I'm gonna guess Drew.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I'm gonna I'm gonna say Billy.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Billy, but he's skinny though I mean he's probably yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
But that's different than speak. I think I would beat Drew,
but I think Drew would beat Billy. I don't know
what Ryan can do anymore.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Do you think Drew would beat Billy in a race?
No way? I do you know we gotta set this
up because there's no you think Billy would beat Drew absolutely,
ill put one hundred bucks on it all.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Right now, I'm going with Drew now. He needs to
be healthy, like not Drew today.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Drew any day. I love Drew, but he's not beating
Billy in a race.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Okay, I don't know he's right. Can Ryan run now?
I mean there was a time he would have beaten
us all. Can he still do it?

Speaker 3 (36:03):
And was in a car wreck?

Speaker 2 (36:05):
He probably Mario's first. I think after that it's way
open in the air. We'll take a break very back SCAZR.
We were talking during the break. I really shan'ton have
no idea who would come second through six with our group.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Really, it depends on if you're on adavan that day
or not, or ambient whatever it was you're on.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Yeah, I mean there are people were riding me saying
I'd come last. I don't think I would. It wouldn't
shot me if I did, But I don't think I would.
I'm I'm I'm more athletic. People like that, like it's
like the dancing thing, Like everybody's like, oh, you can't dance.
Mario did that video of everybody dancing, Was I not
better than the rest of them?

Speaker 2 (36:44):
I was like, people don't but it wouldn't shot me
if I came in.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Are you talking to yourself into during the break? You
finish it in second or sixth or six mostly second,
though there was.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
A time rhyme would have been second. I'm not sure
if that's still true though.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
No, remember when he.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Ran at the Legend Stadium. He was faster than we thought.
But that was a while ago. That was probably a
decade ago, right, I don't know what do you think
the order would be?

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Mario first, Me or Billy? Well, I'll put me second,
Billy third, Ryan, fourth, U fifth through sixth.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
I would go most likely Shannon second, me third. Well,
then that puts Billy ahead of Drew. Yeah, yeah, Billy's
probably ahead of Drew.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
So I get to settle this thing, and let's just
to go out there and do it on a football
field somewhere.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I mean it would be that.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Would I think we could like charge admission to the
five of us running.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
We all see that Mario would come in first.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Here's the other part of this, how far are we running?
Because if you're talking about one.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Hundred meters a lap. I'm not winning. Yeah, a lap,
I'm not within that. We're all dead a lab. We're
all dead. That's one hundred meters sprint. Didn't we do
one hundred meters sprint once? And Ryan was faster than
we thought? That was out when we were in the mountains.
I think that was during COVID.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
I don't think I was a part of that, but I.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Think we did so.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Ryan might be a sneaky second, but I do think
Ryan's put on weight over the years and he doesn't exercise.
But there was a time we did something at a
stadium and he ran a lot faster.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Than I thought he could. Remember he was the stolen
base king.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah, many many, many many years.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Many years ago. Patricia, go ahead, Patricia.

Speaker 13 (38:47):
I was just wondering with this jam ideal, how it
will affect the fans going to the games, and also
how it will affect keeping the former players on this
roster around next year.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
What do you mean by the fans going to the games?

Speaker 13 (39:06):
What do you mean, like, if we don't get players,
will it effect the fan base going to the games?

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Or I might Yeah, if we don't win, I mean,
if we don't win. I think that would be the case.
I mean, ultimately, I said this to somebody yesterday who
I was talking to about it. If they win, none
of this matters, right Like, if they win, then no
one will care what the deal is.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
It's only a deal.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
If they don't win, and people go, why aren't we winning?
And then people want to know what happened. But Patricia,
if we're winning, then I don't think anybody cares what
the deal is, to be honest, does that make sense?

Speaker 13 (39:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (39:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (39:50):
And also I've seen something where Jacob put on there
that they're reading negotiating the former players contracts try to
keep them next year.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yes, yeah, and that'll probably that'll be happening forever. So
I appreciate the call.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
I think.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
I think if Mark Pope wants to keep the guys
currently on the roster, he'll be able to do it.
Assuming they've had a positive experience, which I have no
reason to think they haven't, will go ahead. Will well,
they haven't played well, but whether or not they're happy
or that's only they know that will go ahead.

Speaker 14 (40:26):
Uh yeah, Matt, I think you're a perfect resource for
my question or point that I want to make about
this JMI issue, specifically regarding the signing of the waiver
the request that Mitch and University's asking. There's three factors
I think that we need to look at. One of them,
I think is a law in Kentucky back in April

(40:50):
or May they passed in at Bill three, and it's
one of the means what talks about limiting the athletes
to oh ye going out.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
That's in the article. Yes, no, that that that I think.
I think that's an issue. You're right, that's in the article.
I need to study more how those two things work
together because I don't know.

Speaker 14 (41:09):
Please please do that for us, because I think mentioned
the university, while they're not really transparent. I think the
factor with them is it's on the books in Frankfurt
and it mentions they.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Did that and they were the one that got that
law written. Though, yeah exactly, that's so. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (41:30):
What was the second?

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Real quick?

Speaker 14 (41:33):
Okay, it's in Washington, d C. They're trying to pass
the law and the Score Act didn't pass, and now
they're talking about the Safe Act. So I wish you
could help us and and dig into Senate Buil three,
Senate Buil three and then look at the Score Act
and the Safe.

Speaker 8 (41:48):
Act, and I will do that.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
I mean, that's going to be a long conversation. I
appreciate the call.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
I will do that on an interrupted podcast, probably after Christmas.
But I still, to be fair, want to have a
common conversation with UK and JMI to get their perspective,
because I think we owe them that before we just
completely and I just haven't been able to do that yet.
I mean I've asked, but they they haven't had that

(42:13):
conversation with me. So but all those are good questions.
I think they're completely fair. We will be at the
bar tomorrow. Come join me for trivia tonight. We'll see
you later. This has been Kentucky Sports Radio
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The Burden

The Burden

The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.

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