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Speaker 4 (01:05):
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(01:29):
We've got Kentucky Saint John's coming up. A couple of
things here that are none about those two before we
go to the phones. Did you see the story but
they caught the guy, well he's dead now, yeah, but
how they found out who the guy was that did
the shooting at Brown?

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Yeah, a homeless man.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Then they were in some like canister or something like
a train like what was it a big like.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
A train canister? What do you call it? Like a railcar?
I'm thinking, are you thinking about like a hobo? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
No, but they found him in like he was in
like some uh he was Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
You did you find out how they figured out who
he was? No? Okay, then you're not. That wasn't my story.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
My story was the homeless man that that caught him.
So a homeless man was walking down the street and
saw the guy who did it. He thought he recognized
him from the picture they put out, so he decided
on his own to go sleuthing. Yeah, so he basically

(02:31):
this is like a movie. He basically like followed the guy.
Then the guy saw him following him and was like,
thought it might be suspect, so he tries to walk
around the block. The homeless man kind of follows him
around the block, looks in the car, sees a couple
bags that may have been the Duffel bags of the

(02:53):
with the gun. He then goes recognizes the clothing he's
basically uh. The guy who kills him starts chasing the
homeless man. The homeless man runs, gets to the police,
describes his clothing, takes his license plate, which allows the
police to find.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Out who he is.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
The guy knows that he's been caught, and that's why
he ends up I think, killing himself. But it all
happened because a homeless guy named John. And now here's
the part that's interesting. The homeless guy apparently then goes
to the library. Shannon gets on Reddit and tells the story.

Speaker 6 (03:30):
That's it really is. Yeah, that guy and so like.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
He's gonna get the He's gonna get the reward. Do
we know what the reward is of him? He was
walking down the street and he sees a guy and
he goes, that looks like the guy. The guy had
not left Providence, he was still in Providence and he goes,
that looks like the guy. He ends up chasing him

(03:56):
around and then goes to the police and apparently his
whole description told them exactly where he was, who he was,
and then they were able to get him. Then the
police issued it today saying it was cause of this guy.
That guy, and this guy be interested in what his
life story is. He apparently went to Brown so he
was like wanting to find the guy because he went

(04:17):
to Brown but ended up homeless, so he went to
night So who knows what happened in his life.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Obviously things didn't something happened, but u crazy story.

Speaker 7 (04:25):
It is just as cool it is the homeless guy
found him was able to pull that off.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
It also seems kind of dumb that the dude was
just lingering.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
So that's two things one, why did you stick around Providence? Secondly, Shannon,
it's kind of weird to me. The FBI, the police,
all these people are looking for him, and like a
homeless guy walking down and he's in Providence. Yeah, and
a homeless guy walking down the street is the one
that finds him.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, maybe he should be the one who's on like
the police force.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
There. That's very true. You want to be a sheriffan
I detective.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Looks like he was the most successful one of all
of them.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, and he kept the guns in his car that
had his life.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
Actually, I think I got it wrong. Sorry. He went
on Reddit first, and then the people on Reddit were like,
go to the police, and he goes you think I
should go to the police, and they're like yes, and
then he goes to the police.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
So people talked him into going to the police. So
when it first happened, he just goes to the library.
He gets on Reddit and says, I think I saw
the guy. Everybody's like, dude, go to the police. Yeah,
no kidding, And then it ends up happening.

Speaker 7 (05:38):
That's a crazy story. I'm glad he's getting taken care
of well hopefully. Uh, you know, I think that I
just was like, that is one of the stranger things
I've seen, think kind of like important. He felt like
when he locks on the guy and he's following him
and getting all the clues and the license plate number.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, and see him walking into the police station, they're
not gonna take him serious if he's a homeless man.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
He had been on Reddit A made it official. All right,
did you see what Vince Merrow did yesterday? No, Vince Marrow,
I listen. I love Vince Marrow. If I were on
the UFL coaching staff, I'd be like, all right, Vince,
I do what the people at the White House should
do with President take his phone. I thought that sometimes
when he was here. Even though I enjoyed it, Donald

(06:17):
Trump and Vince Merrill have one thing in common. They
need to get off their phones and like, you know,
so apparently we pursued Louisville's cornerback coach, Steve Ellis okay,
Jody Dimmling wrote, now a gamer, Jody. I love Jody,
But Jody's kind of pr for U of L, which

(06:38):
is fine, But you just have to listen to what
he says through that lens, he wrote. Jody wrote, according
to sources Kentucky heavily pursued Louisville cornerback coach Steve Ellis
for the same role in Lexington. Ellis Is opted to
stay in Louisville. That may very well be true. Probably is.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Vince Merrill retweets it and writes, don't mess with the
big dog. He knows we own the state all right.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Now, Remember Vince calls himself the big dog, right, does
he suggesting that he kept the cornerback coach? Or is
he calling Steve Ellis the big dog? So he's saying,
don't mess with it. Don't mess with me. Is Vince
arguing he is the reason that Steve Ellis stayed Shannon.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
It sounds like it to me. Yeah, don't mess with
the big dog. Don't mess with me. We own the state.
Yeah he's mess with me.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yeah, I like Vince, but now we have to officially
start messing with He.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Says we own the state.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Then one comment or responds, you don't even think you
own the state.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
You eating Lexington every night? I didn't see that. I
have a funny. That's really funny, replies.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
I love VIDs, but he does eat in Lexington every night.
Just here a couple of days ago. He's here all
the time. Do you know how many text machine reports
I get events is at this restaurant.

Speaker 7 (08:14):
I've had a few myself. Also, we own the state
is what he'd always say here. So who owns the
state or does this event? Big Dog just own the state.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
He's suggesting he owns the state, so wherever he goes,
ownership of the state follows. Okay, matter of fact, I
think if he was on here he would say that,
don't you.

Speaker 7 (08:34):
I completely agree that he would, And I, as much
as I don't think he should be doing it, I
love when the Big Dog is tweeting and uh kind
of tiptoeing on that line there, crossing it as a coach,
I do too. I still can't believe he tweeted at
Nick Rausch during the Governor's Cup we.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
Turn in the game from the sideline, don't mess with
the big Dog.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
We own the state, saying that, like Pete Knock is
coming on this staff and there are another coach that's
leaving Louisville to join.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
I don't think there's anyone else that was on the step,
but people who played at Louisville.

Speaker 7 (09:02):
Okay, I have breaking news if we need it breaking news,
Shannon Running, We have a point spread already on tomorrow's game.
Usually we have to wait until after the show's on Friday.
But Kentucky is a two and a half point underdog
against Saint John's tomorrow on draftings.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Like you were being a little liberal with the breaking news.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
It's big news. We never get something that's not something
to happen. You're just giving you don't get excited about
the points. But I don't know that I would call
it breaking news. I am interested in it, but.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Just went up. I mean, we can report it first.
It's not out there fair enough. That sounds about right.
I was gonna say Saint John's by three, so two
and a half makes If.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
It goes up a half point, let me know so
I can hit the breaking news button again.

Speaker 7 (09:45):
Oh will anytime I see the line movement, I'm gonna
make sure.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
I'm just excited. We usually have to wait till Friday.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
You're right about that, Noah, go ahead, and Noah.

Speaker 8 (09:54):
Hey Man wingsday. Noah, I want to know if Kentucky
wins this volleyball championship. If they win then actual championship,
Is there any possible way we could start doing pre
game and postgame shows.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
A lot of pregaming.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
I do well, I do a lot of pregame and
we do a lot already. So no, but I.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Would like to do.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
I mean, you could make a strong argument we should
do one for the finals, but I just I don't
have they just slap my finger and get on all
the network. So I you know, it's not a bad idea.
It's not a bad idea. I appreciate the call. I
would love to. Last night felt like one of those
nights that I should immediately go on the air and
do a post game show.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, because it it's exciting. We all wanted to talk
about it at eleven thirty at night.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
But they play a lot of games. I think they
play like thirty six and on Sundays. Yeah, we are so,
but hey, Sunday is gonna be exciting. Three thirty National
Television got to get this. Dub Debbie. What's up, Debbie?

Speaker 5 (10:56):
I'm good?

Speaker 9 (10:57):
How are you all right?

Speaker 10 (10:59):
Thanks? Hey? I was going to say my husband and
I were line judges for UK Volleyball up to when
Craig Skinner started. We've been in it for several years.
We weren't the only ones there were a rotation of us.
But I'll tell you what, those touches are so hard
at the net that it was they really did have

(11:22):
to start getting cameras. Yes, well, it used to be
like in the in the early eighties. I did it
when I was doing UK and bachelor's degree time and
they they started to every every ball at the net.

(11:43):
They then started saying, well, no, there's a touch, there's
a toss, you know, and it's up to us.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
Debbie.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
You just have to tell them to stop arguing like
that's the You just got to say, listen, I'm Debbie.
You don't argue with me. But I do think it
would probably have been a lot of a lot of
an it's now did Were you always allowed to reach over.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
The net like that?

Speaker 10 (12:05):
You can reach over the net if the other team
has already hit it, or if it's if you're going
up for a block at the thing, yes.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Then okay, I didn't you have to be on the side.

Speaker 10 (12:21):
But as the block with their fingers, then they can
go over because the other person has hit it, but
they cannot put their hands over the over the net
if the other team has not had a chance to
hit it yet, gotcha.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Debbie, thank you very much for your for your rules.
Appreciate it rules break down. You know who is a
college at basketball referee? I mean college volleyball, college voeyball?
Is it a former coworker of yours?

Speaker 5 (12:47):
Big Easy? Yeah? Big Easy is a does like big
ten games and stuff, doesn't he? Big Easy?

Speaker 4 (12:52):
I think did an NCAA tournament game in Lexington. They
did not ours, but one or the other? Like what
was it when we play? Whoever played opposite us? I
think Big Easy did that?

Speaker 5 (13:03):
How long?

Speaker 7 (13:04):
Until they asked Ryan? And he just says yes. Because
he'll do any odd jobs at sporting events.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Ryan is probably doing a volleyball game at two o'clock somewhere.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Those focusing on the corner the flag if it goes out.
I want to be that guy.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Why are you doing this again? Yes? Are they paying you? No?
Didn't you do well? You're doing it for free? So
on you your Saturday night? Do you at Douglas Douglas
High School? Do you know anyone in the game? I
know the coach.

Speaker 7 (13:34):
He's got me with the coaches, and get over the spotter,
get over the stats.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
See I don't even know who's playing. What you mean
you don't know who's playing? Douglas was playing somebody. But
there's a second game. There's two games, like it's like
a showcase. I did two games at GRC for Coach
Q a couple of weeks ago. You did this Saturday
doubleheader just last week? He asked, need somebody to do it?
And what do you do? I do the PA you
know you're like checking in.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
Yeah, do you do like a big three?

Speaker 5 (14:03):
Oh yeah, do one of your calls? Matt Jones three point.
That's mine. That's not come on, because you gotta do
something different. You can't get how's that different? Nobody does
it that way? Does it? What way? Three point? Nobody

(14:25):
does it that way? Matt Jones three.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
I get the premise. Okay, all right, well listen man,
how you want to spend your time is up to you.
At that list, I'm gonna go to the Kentucky What
is the thing at Fairdale? The King of the Bluegrass. Yeah,
that's this weekend. I'm gonna go Saturday night and watch
Darren feldhouses kid play.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I see the game I did at g RC. I've
already seen him play. He was playing that.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
I don't care what he's a monster, but they have
a really good field. Again. Problem going Fairdale is it's
so far awake. I gotta leave now to get there Saturday.
But uh, King of Bluegrass used to be. I'm gonna
get that pizza place Bonnie and Clyde's. It's the only
time I get to do it is when I go
out there. So I'm I'm gonna go out there for
either tonight or tomorrow night. I'm going to one of
those games. And I hope you enjoy what you're what

(15:12):
you're doing.

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(15:40):
If I have nine twenty two eighty seven, So I
got a couple of facts off about the homeless story
it makes it even more amazing. You want two facts
that are different.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
What's that?

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Well, first of all, I knew this he shot. He
also shot the the guy that they that he found
also shot the professor at M I t this guy.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
Maybe he was like anti, I don't know, who knows what.
What was his reasoning, But the homeless man initially had
been squatting in the basement of the building where the
shooting was in.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
Wow, it's another plot twist, another plot twist.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Secondly, he actually did not know that this man was
the suspect for the murder. He just thought he looked suspicious.
So he didn't see a picture that thought he looked
like that, and then later saw the picture and said,
that looks like the guy that I thought was suspicious.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
But his original indication was it guy just kind of looks.
So he gets on Reddit, sees the picture.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
So apparently he had like everyone in Providence is like,
we gotta find this guy. Homeless guy sees this guy
and he doesn't know he's but he's like that guy
looks suspicious, goes and looks. Gogson gets on Reddit, sees
the picture and go, I think I saw this guy.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
So not only is the shooters still around Providence, he's
walking around looking suspicious near the building.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
Where's the building where the shooting occurred.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
Trying to hide a plain sight, you know.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
And yet Shannon, they didn't catch him. This guy did.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
That's even more impressive, Like the guy just pretty much
stayed at this scene of the crime.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
And that it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Everybody's like a nationwide man hunt, and this guy's like,
what if I just stay in the building.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
Right here, nobody will look here.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
That's why he's gotta hire that guy. He's one for one.
He's one for one. Yeah, so that's kind of a crazy.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
There's got a big paycheck coming his way. Yeah, well
he deserves it.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Yeah, well, well done. Before we go to the phones,
one sad piece of news. Greg Biffle and his entire
family died in a plane crash. When I was in
my prime NASCAR fandom. Greg Biffle was a driver, Yes,
sure so, like in that period late nineties early two thousands,

(17:56):
Biffle was a guy.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
But what I think is much more.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
He won like forty or fifty races in his career,
But put that to the side. What is more impressive
about Greg biffles what he did after, which is I
don't know if you ever had ever seen during the
flooding in North Carolina that was part of Hurricane.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Was it helean? Is that the one that was just
a couple just a couple of years ago in.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
The mountains that flooded, and Ashville and all that stuff.
He literally spent days flying his own helicopter to give
materials to people. He would fly town by town and
drop materials into these places that were.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Cut off from society.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Dies in a plane crash with his family, entire family
of Carolina.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
Awful story. A hero. He had already been in one
plane crash apparently really yeah, and survived it, but not
this one. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (18:44):
I remember all the stories about him helping out through
the flooding and then to go out the same way
he was helping people. And just the photo of his
family and the.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Young like such a beautiful family. It's just it's it's
really sad. Tristan, go ahead, Tristan.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
You doing good morning.

Speaker 11 (19:02):
So a couple of so a couple of things. First,
this is for Drew Uh. This is parent pre parenting advice.
My my recommendation to all new parents is that you
sleep as much as possible, because as soon as your
baby arrives, you're not going to feel arrested or refresh
for two years. And so take the next couple of
months to sleep as much as possible.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Right now a perfect timing too, because it's basketball season,
so it's a good time for you to sleep it.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Just doze right off. Thank you. That's that's correct.

Speaker 11 (19:27):
And the other thing I've got for you this morning
is that this is your evergreener mind, that the fan
base is not a monolith. We don't all love Rick Bettina,
we don't all have positive memories of him, And so
a humbly request that you qualify your affirmations by indicating
that only only a subset of the base loves him
or otherwise accepts him back into the fold. There's no we,
there's no us.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
I can't do that.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Do you realize how boring a show would be if
if I qualified everything by going, now, this is not everyone.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
This is just like you have to make generalists.

Speaker 11 (19:54):
I mean, Drew already said the Rick reunion that made
me want to throw up.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
So yeah, I understand that there are a lot of
people that there are some people that don't. I still
think if you did a Rick Patino approval rating with
the fan base today, you would get a majority of
people who would give him a positive, whereas four years
ago a majority of people would have given him a negative.

Speaker 7 (20:14):
Yeah, and I'm actually on the caller side, but I
called it a Patino reunion because it's literally a reunion
with Pope and Patino.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
You said something interesting last night that I think you
should repeat. Yeah, I've said a few times. I don't.

Speaker 7 (20:24):
I feel like Pope's got some complex with Patino where
he almost feels like Rick's still superior to him. I
need him to stick out his chest, like you're the
coach of Kentucky. Now, let's have some confidence. I felt
that way since he's been on the job. There's a
lot of like, golly, I'm the coach of Kentucky and
you know, have a couple months of that, but let's
let's start getting cocky and.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
I'm the coach at Kentuck.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
I feel like he's still surrendering to Rick. I didn't
even like when Rick came back for Pope's first madness,
like sure, bring bringing back sometime, but like, this is
your moment, why are you already making it about him.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
I feel like we need to get a little away
from that.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Do you want him to sort of stick his chest
out and be like, I am the Kentucky coach.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
Yes, And that's not just this Rick situation. I've thought
that the whole time.

Speaker 7 (21:03):
I feel like he's he can be a little timid
and he's almost shocked that he has the job, and
I get for a month you had that, but now
come on, let's get let's get tough and.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Stick your chest out. Do you agree with that?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I think there's a little truth to it, to be honest,
because the way he's acted around when Patino has been around,
you have so much love and admiration for Patino in
almost Cower.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Do you worry that there'll be any of that Saturday,
that it might affect the game? Being kind of like,
golly g there's Rick on the other side.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
See I do. I kind of lean that way. You know,
I'm afraid he's almost afraid to beat Patino, especially if
norma meaning bad and embarrassing.

Speaker 6 (21:36):
Well, that's a problem. If he's afraid to beat Patino,
we can't have that.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
We can't do that.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
He's not playing in the game, he's only coaching, but
I do wonder.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
I'm probably a little less worried about it than you
two are, but I do wonder if it's a one
point game and we call time out to draw up
a play, is he gonna get in his head and
be like little Rick dude.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Yeah, that's the part where I would be maybe a little.
I'm worried about the intimidation factor a little bit. You
go ahead, Peggy, Hey.

Speaker 12 (22:02):
Good morning guys. I am a question. They are supposed
to announce the top volleyball player of the year.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
It's happening right now.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
I think I think it's happening right now because we
were gonna have Craig Skinner on and I think he's
at that or about to go to that, So I
think you're.

Speaker 12 (22:22):
Right, Okay, I just I was wondering when they were
doing it.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
I think it's now.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
I just got a message because I texted Craig to
come on and I got to miss it. Said we
have the All American banquet that we are at, so
we can't join right now, so it must. I guess
it may be going on as.

Speaker 12 (22:40):
We speak, Okay, So we don't know when we'll find out.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
If I don't know I would assume anytime if unless
it's a very long banquet. So uh but but but
as of right this moment, I do not.

Speaker 12 (22:53):
Okay, fingers crossed at eva, is it?

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yes, appreciate the call. Also tomorrow, by the way, you've
got the volleyball. And then Kentucky, don't we also have
a women's basketball game maybe going on tonight?

Speaker 5 (23:05):
Oh tonight? Yeah, it's a women's game tonight. What time's
that game? Not sure? Who do they play? Not sure? Okay,
so you're very definitive on the time.

Speaker 7 (23:14):
They definitely play tonight, but you don't right, stayed at
six point thirty tonight?

Speaker 5 (23:17):
Immemorial? Yeah, yeah, historic Memorial cost all right, six thirty
tonight the women.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
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Speaker 5 (23:25):
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them pay now.

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Speaker 6 (23:35):
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The answer is almost certainly a fine nine two eighty seven.

Speaker 13 (24:11):
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Speaker 4 (24:11):
The text machine is seven seven to two seven seven
four five two five four one person rights, Matt, Are
you upset that your Chicago bears may move to Indiana?

Speaker 5 (24:21):
They ain't gonna do that there.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
Where they're going northwest? Is that Gary?

Speaker 5 (24:23):
We're gonna go to Gary, Indiana? Not one.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
They're not going to Gary and they're not doing that.
They're not going again. What's the other town that starts
with an H? That's even worse than Gary. It's between
Gary and Chicago?

Speaker 5 (24:35):
Hebron. No, it's like hand over? What is it? What's
somebody looking up? What's the there's usually fund all my
fun in Gary.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
It's right between Gary and it's where like everything is
on fire and there's smoke billowing out of everything.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Hammond, Hammond, that's it Hammond.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
So like they're not going there. I'm they're just fighting
with the government trying to get money. I'm of the
belief spend my belief for especially the NFL. I can
make a different argument for basketball and hockey because basketball
and hockey can put arenas where they can get concerts.
But the NFL should not be using public money for stadiums.

(25:15):
Like I said, basketball and hockey, I can accept it
a little bit because you can put something in your
downtown that gets a ton of people, and they can
have concerts and it can revitalize your downtown. So I'm
okay with public money for basketball arenas sometimes football stadiums.
They don't do anything air except the NFL. It's like

(25:37):
nine times a.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
Year, right right. The NFL makes so much money, pay
for it yourself. You got it. The NFL, the b
and Mimi's.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
A Bears are worth forty three bajillion dollars.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
That's a lot.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
So they're trying to make Chicago pay for it. If
they in Chicago's paying for it, I'm not gonna be outraged.
It's not my tax money. But like, the Bears need this.
I love the Bears. They ain't slow down like they're good.
So now they're like, oh, we're moving to Gary. You
ain't moving to Gary, Indiana.

Speaker 6 (26:09):
Doesn't that like the murder capital it used.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Now it's like apparently like slowly trying to revitalize.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
We've been there, remember, it's kind of was kind of sad.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
It's sad, but it's not dangerous as much now, or
at least it doesn't feel dangerous. It's just empty, which
is just sad. But regardless, they are not moving the
Bears to Gary, Indian.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
I just don't. I do not believe that.

Speaker 7 (26:31):
I don't believe that whatsoever. And they're trying to, like,
you know, the Jacksons they have Gary Indian. Aren't all
the Jacksons from there?

Speaker 5 (26:38):
You can't take that from them. The Strong Bears have
to be in Chiga, have to be What's wrong? What's
wrong with their location right now? What do they want
to move from the location. I don't really understand why
they want to move.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Soldier Field is in the middle of Chicago, like we've
been like, it's nice. I mean, it's not like exquisite,
but it's fine. It's it's right there on the water.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
It fits them. I mean, you can update it.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
And they want to move it up to Arlington Heights,
which is like where all the rich people leave.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
They could just do what Green Bay did with Lambo.
They didn't move Lambo, they didn't change locations, they just
renovated it.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
They could do.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Yeah, you go up to Arlington Heights. I mean, I like,
but apparently Arlington Heights won't give them the tax money.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
Or Chicago. I just think these stadiums.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Again, I feel differently about arenas because the city can
use that for stuff, but football stadiums just pay for
it yourself.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
It's a football stadium, just big circle like a dome.
So they can have like a super Bowl and NBA
they talk about a dome. But to me, these teams
that play in the cold weather, dude, you should not
have a dome.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
That's your hometown advantage.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
That's your advantage being outside, like Chicago, the Chicago Green
Bay game, it should be in the snow.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
When you put a dome on it, it makes me want
to puke.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
Bills fans like revolted when they tried to say they
were getting a dome and they ended up not doing
it because they know that's their advantage.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
The part of it, like Minnesota and Detroit have messed
out on that for years by having the domes Okay,
you don't get the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
Who cares is once every team then cares. I don't
like it.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
And if they move to Gary, Anyeah, that's fine. It's
closer for me. But they ain't moving to Gary.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
The Gary Bears. I like it. They're not moving.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
One person writes, Matt, what do you think about pardon
my take in the Barstool podcast going to Netflix. I'm
sure they got a lot of money. I salute them.
I think good for you guys. Those dudes are my buddies.
Maybe that means when they host this show it'll be
on Netflix. That should be very cool. With that said,

(28:34):
I think they'll make a lot of money, so it
probably makes sense to do it. They I think that's
an ot like that'll be hard for their audience. Like
I know, for me, I'm not watching podcasts on Netflix,
you know. I mean, I'm just probably not. It's not
that I'm against it. I just probably will. Never think
if I go on Netflix. Might have so many other choices.

(28:55):
Am I gonna watch a podcast?

Speaker 5 (28:56):
You're telling me?

Speaker 4 (28:57):
I can watch like movies, or I can watch people
sitting and talking to each other.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
I think I'm gonna watch the movies.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
You know what I mean, Shannon, Yeah, I'm not watching
a podcast on Netflix.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
I mean maybe on YouTube, but I'm not gonna do.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
It like exactly to me. Podcasts so like, I'm sure
they get a lot of money, and so good for them.
Those guys deserve all their success. They've changed podcasts in sports.
But I just don't know. I think they'll lose some
audience because I just don't know that people are gonna sit.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
And watch podcasts on Netflix. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe they will.

Speaker 7 (29:30):
Yeah, and what is Netflix doing? They now have the
NFL they're gonna add it looks like a podcast network.
I mean they have wrestling. Are they just trying to
be like everything at the people know.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
They want to be cable. Yeah, they're just turning into Spectrum.
They're really adding the.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Home run Derby next year is gonna be on Netflix.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
Did you see that?

Speaker 5 (29:46):
I mean they're with that said if Netflix wants to
take I will go. Yeah. We were just talking about
how we'd love to be on their Netflix, and I've
always said podcasts are perfect for Netflix.

Speaker 7 (29:56):
I was just thinking how I would love to sit
down on Netflix and watch a podcast.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
But I just don't know, Like if I'm getting on Netflix.
I'm not sure podcast is gonna be the thing I'm
gonna choose to watch.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Are you you only go to Netflix to watch movies
and stuff right now?

Speaker 4 (30:10):
But I think what they're trying to do is to
make it where you go to Netflix for everything.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
It's just you sit down and go straight to.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
It's like, all right, I'm at my television. I'm just
watching Netflix. And maybe that'll work. I don't know it's
working right now for him.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
It seems like, but are you gonna watch podcasts on Netflix?
I'm not, That's what I'm.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Saying, but maybe it'll work. I don't know. Kevin, go ahead, Kevin, Yeah.

Speaker 14 (30:32):
I just want to make a general comment about women's
volleyball and it kind of compared to other sports, including
men's volleyball. For some reason, there's something about the sport
that's so exciting that women look way more athletic than
women basket women basketball players, and it's the perfect pace,
like compared to men's volleyball. I think that's too fast. So,

(30:55):
but I'm also wondering, like why.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
I would disagree with you on the afternetics. There lot
of really good athletes in women's basketball. I mean it's
it's a different that the jumping is. It feels bigger
in volleyball, but that's because their thing to do is jump.
But I mean, there are there are some women that
play basketball that are fast and can jump. I mean,

(31:18):
you know, Brittany Grinder could dunk. So like, you're not
gonna convince me she's not a good athlete.

Speaker 14 (31:25):
Well, I just think they look faster. They look more athletic.
Now the net is seven and a half feet.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
They're not faster. They're not exactly, They're not faster than they.

Speaker 14 (31:33):
Look more athletic.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
Yeah, well seven and a half feet helps. I mean, listen,
I love it.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
I just don't think you should like demean women's basketball
by saying like if if the if the rim was
seven and a half feet tall, those women would look
like they're dunking too.

Speaker 14 (31:50):
I will say this though, the women in basketball look
like they're running in the lasses versus the women in volleyball.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
But the women are not in volleyball are not running.

Speaker 14 (32:00):
Well, that's true, they just look I don't know, I
don't know what it is. I just know it's better,
it's more, it's more entertaining, and it's even more entertaining
than men's.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
Appreciate the call.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
I actually think women's volleyball is a lot more entertaining
than men's because the men they're almost I won't say
they're too good, they're almost too athletic, like nobody. Like
rallies that you get in women's volleyball. You don't get
me if you've ever watched the men's it's just like
hit it one hundred miles an.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
Hour and hod one set one spike point point. Women's
volleyball you get these rallies that you just don't get
in the others. And those rallies last night were so fun.
They were awesome, were they? But did you see the.

Speaker 7 (32:36):
Clip of Craig Skinner playing when he was I don't
know if he was coaching, but they showed an old
clip of Skinner getting up and spiking it full head
of hair.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
I mean, you never see men's volleyball except the Olympics,
and when they have the Olympics, try to watch one
of those matches.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
You can't. You can't serve set spike point, serve set
spike point. If you miss a spike, it's like you're
the worst player of all time.

Speaker 7 (32:57):
I mean, they just and they don't cheer as much
for themselves, or they don't dance on the bench or
all the other fun energy things that come with women's volleyball.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Yeah, and don't get me wrong, like you certainly are
allowed to what like women's volleyball more. I am finding
it as entertaining, if not more. I don't think it's
fair to those basketball players to say they're not. They're
asked to do a different thing, you know. And I
think like Eva Hudson could be a really good women's
basketball player. There's probably some girls playing women's basketball. It

(33:28):
could be really good volleyball.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
They probably grew up playing both their whole lives. Yeah.

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(33:52):
Quality leather goods built to last. By the way, that
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you see she had forty six and fifteen the other night. Wow,
dominated dude, she's gonna be a massive star going into
this like once once people like she's you can't stop her.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
Not at all.

Speaker 7 (34:13):
What was her name, Audie? I think, can't stop her
down low, but then she runs Oddie Crooks.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
Crooks crooks. Yeah, we'll take a break very back, KISR.
I mean, there's no Weathery not going to carry Indiana.
Can't do that. Can't leave Soldier Field. That's it. You
can't leave Soldier Field.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Here's the thing, like people are telling me about all
the things you can do with domes. First of all, yes,
can you have a concert, sure, but how many concerts
are at.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
Football stadiums every year? A handful.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
You get a good arena, you can have events like
Madison Square Garden in New York has an event every
single night, literally every single night. In Chicago, you could
put a basketball arena up, and if it was in downtown,
you could have an event if you wanted. Every single
sure football stadium, how many how many outdoor concerts you're.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
Gonna have two three a year. Ye, not many, not many? Okay,
a dome. I know. Domes are like you can Ah,
you can host the super Bowl, you can host Phone four,
you can host WrestleMania. But here's the thing. If I
were to tell you what NFL stadiums do you want
to visit? Which one's gonna be a dome?

Speaker 14 (35:23):
Here?

Speaker 5 (35:23):
Where do you want to visit?

Speaker 4 (35:24):
You want to visit Soldier Field, You want to visit
lambeau Field, You want to visit Buffalo. Maybe you want
to visit Kansas.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
City, Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
All outdoor, all outdoor. Give me the dome to the
extent there's a dome you'd want to visit. It might
be Dallas, but even that has like a roof, but
that's more just because it's like a technological marvel. It's huge,
but it still probably wouldn't even be in the top ten. Yeah,
you want to go like outside?

Speaker 5 (35:54):
You know what ball is all about?

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Man, at least to me, Like do any of you
watch game in Minnesota, Detroit, New Orleans, Houston and think.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
Man, that looks like a great Foks fun No brother
getting the hot tub in Jacksonville and being a dome? Yeah,
who wants to be in a dome the final four.
I know they have it there. It stinks. Yeah, when
it's in domes too big.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
The final fours, I have lost a lot of the
environment because of the in that dome, you just gets
gets lost in.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
Well, Kentucky played Tennessee last year. You know they used
half of it. Uh huh still too big, too big.

Speaker 7 (36:31):
I hated that They're like, we're putting it in here,
We're only gonna use half. Like at that point, what
are we using this big place for if you're just
gonna curtain most of it off?

Speaker 5 (36:37):
Yeah, it's it's still it's still to me too big.
All right?

Speaker 4 (36:40):
College Football Playoff will do our Draft Kings parlay. By
the way, it's a Don Franklin Hyunday in Somerset takeover.
Hope you all will visit Don Franklin for college Football
playoff games. We're gonna make our parlay based on these
four once.

Speaker 7 (36:54):
Tonight, I was wondering if we needed to just do
the three on Saturday since we don't normally.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
Do prodcast bamol us tonight.

Speaker 7 (37:00):
Three against the spread will still be a long part, right,
so we'll do We'll do three then, So is there
any Saturday game tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
I'll also throw in another game tomorrow. Okay, each of
you gets to pick one game, uh, Drew, I'll start
with you. Miami, Texas A and M. What's the spread?

Speaker 7 (37:20):
Texas A and M is a three point favorite you like?
I will roll with the SEC and A and M
and Jay Bateman.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Okay, I'm gonna do well. No two Lane, Old Miss
what's the spread?

Speaker 6 (37:33):
Seventeen and a half?

Speaker 5 (37:35):
Seventeen and a half? What you want? I'm still gonna
take Old Miss me too, even without Lane. Without Lane,
so we.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
Got old Miss, we got Texas A and M. Shannon,
I'll let you do James Madison and Oregon.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
Oregon's a twenty and a half point favorite. I think
I'm still taking Oregon.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
I think Organ. Yeah, to roll.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
You know what, I don't want to screw that up
because I really like that one. All the favorites to cover,
A and M, old Miss and Organ all cover.

Speaker 7 (38:00):
I like that. We'll just make that the parlay. It's
still almost plus six hundred plus.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Yeah, I love it. That's it. We're gonna win.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Let's go part of the year at the wind and
the only one I'm at all worried about is Miami
beats A and M because I think old miss and
and organ will both cover that.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
Shawn, go ahead, Seawan.

Speaker 13 (38:20):
Yeah, I got two things real quick if you guys. Ever,
there's a website called the nil Sewer, and obviously Kentucky's
not on it. But there are multiple JMI schools, and
it makes me think that our issues aren't necessarily JMI policies,
but JMI carrying out Miss Barnhart policies.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
We have a different contract though.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
We have a different contract with JMI than every other
school though, and again whether or not it's better or
worse long term is up will be determined over the
next couple of years. But our contract is different. So
when people say other JMI schools they have a different
we are the only school that has a contra track.

(39:00):
That is, both the Media and the Nile are both
with the same company. Yeah, I don't think there's another
one and I don't and so that makes it different.

Speaker 13 (39:10):
Okay, Well, I would suggest everyone check out in an
IL store because it is an example of how we're
getting hurt his fans because they have cool stuff on there.
And I'll leave you with this, Miss Barnhardt, has made
Kentucky Athletics the equivalent of a restaurant with good food
and poor service. And at the end of the day,
it doesn't matter how good your food is. If you're
service steam, you guys have a merry Christmas in a

(39:33):
great afternoon.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
Appreciate it. So yeah, I mean, I understand that. Views.
I can't do Bob and Jamestown Ahead.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Come on, Jamestown, you have twenty five seconds.

Speaker 15 (39:44):
Go Mark, Mark Pope intimidated my keeno. I watched that
broadcast I even last night on TV, and he was
talking about like he's a describing screetball, talking about his
team needed to be explosive and violent about what's going on.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
And then yeah, Charlie, go ahead, Charlie.

Speaker 9 (40:08):
Yeah, Matt. Last night in the volleyball game and the
pre show, somebody said that, uh, the girlfriend that a
team fell when she served the ball and we didn't
get a point, but we did it.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Yeah, we got it. Now, we got it. I was
just saying, I don't know what happened, like how she fell.
It was like a floor monster grabbed her. But yeah,
we did get a point for that.

Speaker 9 (40:33):
And as far as the rotation goes, they all just
amieva themselves in a corner, but they maintain a proper
rotation and when the balls serve, they go to wherever
they want to go.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Yes, you mean the six that are on the court, right, Yeah, No,
I appreciate car. I met the rotation of like people
coming in and off the bench. I still don't understand that.
And I don't know what the line is for.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (41:05):
Which line line in the middle of the because like
I know, there are times you can't only jump from
behind it, but.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
Then sometimes they jump in front of it. So I
don't know when you can jump in front behind it
and when you I don't know. If you're a volleyball expert,
you're supposed to educate us.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
I don't know the pews. I thought I liked our pews.
We're not calling them dumps their pews. Okay, h corn
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John's are we gonna win? Don't maybe do it? Pick? No?

(41:51):
Are we winning? When a minute?

Speaker 2 (41:52):
When our wins and loss before the season start, I
said this was a loss.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
I'll stay confident. We get the dumb Shannon, what do
you think?

Speaker 6 (42:00):
Better not to ask me? If you want to end
on a positive note.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
All right, let's move to Kentucky and Kentucky A and
M volleyball. I'll let you go shit.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yes, Kentucky wins is their second national title.

Speaker 6 (42:11):
Let's go proudly.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Kentucky beat him three to one, but they lost the
first set again and then won three straight.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
So Kentucky wins. Kentucky's winning it and looking forward to
seeing it.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Kentucky's winning it. Shot Man, I'm really disappointed. I won't
get to be at the bar because I'm gonna be
on a plane to New Orleans. So those of you
that go be loud for me the moment things start
looking bad.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
Kick drew out, got you understood? Kick drew out? And Ryan?

Speaker 4 (42:34):
If we win the title, shirt off, that's a given. No,
I'm letting you, I'm giving you permission. Normally I said
no shirt off at the bar. Shirt off if we
win the title about pants off, No No has.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
To do that. See you tomorrow for the pregame show.
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The Burden

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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.

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