KSR Postgame UK FB at Tennessee 11/03/24

Matt and Billy recap the Cats' 28-18 loss at Tennessee.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everyone. It is the Local Toy Dealers KSR postgame show.
I am Matt Jones. Here another Tennessee loss, twenty eight
eighteen tonight in neland stadium. You can give a shout,
it's late at night, but we we fall back here
Billy right, so right, you know everybody can stay up,

(00:21):
uh eight, I'm twenty two eighty seven. We can talk
about the game, or you can sort of talk about,
you know, what happens with the program going forward three
more weeks by week next week, but then three weeks
and I don't know. I don't know what happens with
UK football and stoops after that. I actually thought Kentucky

(00:43):
played decently well tonight all things considered. I mean, they
lost their quarterback early in the second half, without a
couple of running backs. Barryon got hurt early in the
game in the first quarter. The d fence had five
starters out lost a sixth during the game. You know

(01:05):
they were they were beat up, and all things considered,
Playing on the road at Tennessee, the seventh or eight
team in the country, who you've beaten two times there
in forty eight years, I thought being competitive and having
a shot was actually quite an accomplishment. It doesn't sort
of excuse all the things that have gotten to this place.

(01:25):
I mean, we have three straight games, I think with Florida,
Auburn and Vandy that were really unacceptable performances. But I
didn't really feel like this was one of them. I
think a lot of the frustration fans have are about
those other games bleeding into this one. As for tonight,
you know, too many mistakes to win. Ultimately, I think

(01:48):
the the game probably turned on the on the sack fumble,
which also of course got Brock hurt. I mean, I
think that's the key play of the game. You would,
you know, you would set them up. They got the ball,
they missed the field goal to start the second half.
It's ten to seven, you have the ball, you're driving,
you are even in field goal range. I mean, you

(02:09):
have a chance to go up thirteen to seven, and
then you take that sack and it's just a it's
a terrible play. I mean it was offensive line, which
held up pretty well in the first half, just kind
of collapsed in the second half, especially on those back
to back drives, the one where bron got hurt and
then the next one where we just got blown up

(02:32):
with the first drive with Whims at the offensive line
just you know, it's just not good, and our tackles
are not are really bad. And then the interior guys
I actually thought played pretty well most of the game
against a really good defensive line, but then in the
second half it just kind of fell apart offensively. I

(02:52):
really loved how they started the game. The scripted part
of bush Hampden's play calls those first ten or fifteen
we looked great. Makes you wonder sometimes, why don't we
why don't we keep doing you know, what we do?
At the beginning, they used will Cox a lot, they
went downfield, and then they went away from will Cox
and stopped going downfield. And then once they were down

(03:12):
ten kind of went back to it with Whims it
and it worked again. So makes you wonder why we
get away from that sort of in the in the
heat of the game, I thought the defense played pretty well,
but you know, you just can't ask them to be
out there all the time, having to to get stop
after stop. The margin of error for this team is

(03:35):
so small because of how bad the offense has been.
I mean, you just the defense cannot make a mistake
because if they do, they're gonna there. You know it's over.
And I thought that's kind of what happened today. They
just the whole first half it felt like we were
kind of hanging on, hanging on, hanging on, and then

(03:56):
I think with the with the the sack fumble and
the injury to Brock, it just kind of fell apart.
I thought it was when down eleven, twenty one to ten.
I thought the drive where they go score with Whims,
it was a very positive drive. It looked like they
were playing loose twenty one to eighteen back in it,
and then they get the ball, and you know, I
think part of why I sort of have the opinion

(04:18):
that I don't think the game was a complete disaster
is you had the ball in the fourth quarter down three.
You tell me before the game that's the situation. I'm
probably gonna be pretty happy about it. But the problems
for this this season are not tonight. I mean, it's
not losing at Tennessee. I'm not sure if any of

(04:39):
us really felt like we were gonna win even before
the season started at Tennessee. The problem of these games
the past few weeks and just the overall vibe of
the program. You know, you heard Tom and Jordans say
they didn't get the sense coming into this that the
team was really all into it at all, which makes

(04:59):
even night's performance maybe a little bit more surprising because
I have got the sense with them that they kind
of thought this could be a blowout this evening, so
you get a buy now. Basketball season starts Monday. I
think most people's focus now is going to that, and
for the football team, it's going to be just kind

(05:20):
of playing out the streak. It's a tough night, you
lose to your rival. Louisville gets a huge win at
Clemson in a game that a mere many ways was
what you, I guess had hoped at some point this
game would be. And the question is what's next. I
think there's a lot of the fan base kind of done.
I think most of the fan base is done with

(05:41):
the season, and then there's a portion of the fan
base done with with with the staff, and I don't
really know where it goes from here. A couple of
things on this game. The officiating crew, Billy was awful,
and I don't mean like necessarily anti Kinte. He just
like didn't seem to know what was happening. Was so disorganized.

(06:05):
You know. One guy was like, my bad, there's ten
less more seconds on there than I realized. There at
the end of the first half, they missed that call
where Brock gets knocked gets hit by the guy out
of bounds and he just made the game was like
four hours and fifteen minutes. Billy, why couldn't you have
made it be shorter? That was awful.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
It was really bad. And then the clock operator did
whatever he wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, the clock operator was like watching a different game.
It's just sometimes it'd start to clock, sometimes stop it.
They gave Tennessee, by the way, four timeouts in the
first half. I don't know if anybody noticed that but me,
But that fourth timeout they called, they didn't have a timeout.
Go look at the ESPN game log. Tennessee took four timeouts.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
How did they get to take four timeouts? I don't know.
But to be fair, though they missed three field goals,
they dropped the touchdown, maybe two touchdowns, so it could
have been a lot worse. We didn't lose the game
because the officials, but it didn't look like we got
the A plus crew This week far as Tennessee, you

(07:08):
know they're fans. Booing the players being hurt is a
pretty low uh low act by them. You know that
they will claim and this is true, that that that
teams have been faking injuries against them to slow them
down over the last three years. And I think that
is true having watched Tennessee games that that teams do

(07:29):
through that. I don't think Kentucky has a history of
really doing that. There was that one time I remember
where we had a guy do that was that last year, Billy,
the one guy. I can't remember what game it was,
but he sort of faced.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Was it the flop? Well, the flop was, Yeah, that
was the ball game that was.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
That was ridiculous. But I don't Here's the thing. Faking
injuries is terrible. But the SEC literally yesterday sent out
a memo. It said, if you do it, we're gonna
be watching for it and you're gonna get suspended. Do
people really think Kentucky would have for the first time
this year, decided to start doing that tonight. And the

(08:10):
other thing is if you're gonna think somebody's faking, you
better know they're faking. And are those guys were not?
And I'm glad Tom Hart and those dudes called them out,
especially the chant. I don't have to say what the
words are, but you heard it went over the air.
You know, Tennessee fans are what they are. I think

(08:30):
they are the Yukon basketball fans of of football, and
you know they got a good team. But I wasn't
surprised by the by the actions tonight. Still though, a
heck of environment. Take those people out of it. The
black and the lights and the crowd. Man, I mean,
they know how to do a home game, and uh,

(08:53):
the crowd makes a difference there, and I think it
made a difference against Kentucky this evening. Hey, if I'm nine,
two eighth twenty two eighty seven, we will take your calls,
Billy and I. It's a late night show. This is
probably gona be the latest one we've had this year,
and after a loss, so we'll talk about what you want.
We get an extra hour sleep. Election is two and

(09:14):
a half days away. Billy, have you voted yet?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I have not. No.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, I voted today. It was fun. Actually, wasn't that fun?
I don't know if fun is the word. Just didn't
line for half an hour. Oh fun, I've really pride
myself Billy in. You know the way they did this.
You walk up and then this woman lets you choose.
There are five different individual lines, and I consider it

(09:37):
a very important game to pick the line that will go.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
The fast the shortest.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, and if I don't, I'm very upset at myself.
So I judge the lines. Today I tried to judge
which of the little old ladies behind the counter I
thought would go the quickest.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I think you're judging them as you waited in line.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Well, I mean you gotta figure out which line you
think it's gonna move the quickest. Let's just say I
judge the wrong one. Oh, I think. God, I don't
think mine new understood the new technology, so I didn't.
I think I came in fifth out of the five
at one.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, did you get a sticker?

Speaker 1 (10:12):
They don't do stickers now. They do these little like
paper wristbands that are cheap. I don't like that. I
vote against the Jefferson County Clerk most years because they
won't get the stickers. The Jefferson County Clerk should have stickers.
I didn't know. By the way, why do we vote
on four soil and Water commissioners.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Four, there's four of them. I gotta choose from four.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
I had to choose four out of six. Of course
I didn't know any of them. So how are you
supposed to How are you supposed to know who to
vote for? For that I consider myself educated? How are
you supposed to know the Soil.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
And Water commission I guess yard signs, right, But I
didn't see.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Any Soil and Water yard signs?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Did you?

Speaker 1 (10:50):
I mean, wouldn't? I mean, would you? Even? First of all,
it's not partisan, which I don't it shouldn't be, because
I don't think water and ground are partisan. But literally,
how are you supposed to know? Billy? Who's who?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I don't know? I guess you're supposed to be an
informed voter?

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Do you want to know what? I did? Just so
you know? There were four women and two guys, and
I thought, you know what, I feel like, the women
are gonna care for our dirt and water more.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Oh you went all women? Okay?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
I did what? All women? I was like, you know what,
I just feel like the women are gonna do this
better this time? Okay, But I have no idea if
I'm not two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. We're
gonna take a break. Take your calls. Kats lose twenty
eight eighteen at Tennessee. This is the Local Toy Dealers
KSR post game Show. Welcome Back. It is the Local

(11:39):
Toy Dealers KSR post game show. Looks like Billy the
h The Tennessee fans have have found the link to this,
so just be on the lookout for. I mean, generally speaking,
you can kind of like feel them when they come through.
You know, I can't hate on them for doing that
because I like to do that with Tony Basilio.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
You do the same thing.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well, I mean, I don't call his show, but I
do like to li had we won tonight, I was
definitely gonna put in a good hour of Basilio listen.
But like, I don't know about you, I never thought
we were gonna win them at any point, did I
not think? I mean, you know, some of this is
the fact that what in the last forty years we've
won twice. I mean, I just I always assume we're

(12:18):
gonna lose to Tennessee always, and I always will from
now on. I let myself believe it there for a
few years, and we did win a couple of times,
but I'm not, Billy. I'm just never gonna assume we're
going to beat Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, it's the hope that kills you.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
It's the hope that is that Ted Lasso.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I don't know that comes.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
From something I really like. But that show just keeps
getting better every season. I still haven't finished season three yet.
I'm on my watch now. But by the way, one
thing before we go, when I was in line to.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Vote, okay judging old ladies, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
No, I mean it was a long line, like it
was out the door. So like I was, you know,
I was in there for like thirty minutes, and there
was this this woman in front of me, and she
clearly was wanting to talk to people, and so she
was talking to people about who she was going to
vote for. So she was like explaining to everybody why
she was voting for Trump.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
And you know, me, Billy like, oh no, did you
did you know?

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I wasn't gonna get into it. I like, why am
I gonna? Am I gonna be able to convince her? Plus,
you're not allowed to electioneer next to the poll. I
don't know if you know that you're not allowed to
like tell people who vote for.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
It's the law, Actually you can't.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I mean, I don't think she knew that, but but
plus I'm not going to convince her, so I'm not
gonna get into that. But then she just looked at me,
and I hadn't said a word, and said what should
I do? On Amendment two? That she was asking me
for my opinion?

Speaker 2 (13:42):
I hope you did an electioneer her.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
No, I didn't. I said, wow, I mean you should
do what you want. I said, I'm voting no, and
she goes, well, that's good enough for me. And she
had not spoken to me the whole time. So what
do you think that was? That she just wanted someone
to tell her Billy what to do.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
This is someone little confirmation bias.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Maybe she was so confident about her other votes, but
on that one she just like put it up to me.
So I don't know if that's technically election engineering. Sounds
like she asked me, So was I supposed to ignore, Billy?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
You're supposed to not break the law. Mat It sounds
like I don't know you're going from polling place, she
asked me. She said, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (14:24):
What to do? What should I have said, she like,
I didn't have a choice. She asked me. She was
a little old lady and she seemed nice.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
All right, who's up first, Cole?

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Cole? What's up? Cole?

Speaker 3 (14:37):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (14:40):
First off, Billy, did you wear your special stocks today?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I got no special socks on today, Cole.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
There, that's why we lost.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
That's probably the reason is what what socks? Billy? What
do you think of the game? Cole?

Speaker 6 (14:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (14:59):
It's pretty distant.

Speaker 8 (15:00):
I was gonna ask, if.

Speaker 9 (15:02):
You think that no one got injured, do you think
they would have won the night?

Speaker 1 (15:06):
No? But I think it would have been I think
we I appreciate to call. I think, well, if we'd
come into the game fully healthy, I think it would
have been a very competitive game. But we weren't fully
healthy before it started. And then I think once brought
and now granted Whims, it took us down on a
great drive. But I think without Brock were just so

(15:27):
limited in what we can do. So but the bigger
issue for me was was in the secondary. Because Tennessee's
quarterback Nico is not I don't think he's all that great.
And if you could really put pressure in the secondary
and make him make tight throws. I think we would

(15:47):
have had a chance to make some plays, but we
just didn't. I mean, we were playing we were playing
guys in the secondary. We had not played all season
at one point during that period of time where a
story was out all four starters in the secondary. We're different, guy,
We're like, we're not our starters. Story came back. But yeah,
but even if we were one hundred percent healthy, and

(16:09):
if we had no interest during the game, they're better
than we are, and they're on their home field and
it's Saturday night, and like, you know, how many times
do they lose at home at night? It ain't off.
I mean even when they've been bad, they've been good
at that And so no, I don't think we would
have won again we losing by ten, All things considered,

(16:32):
I actually think it was not a bad performance.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Who's next, Jay Witt?

Speaker 1 (16:36):
What's up? Hey? What's up?

Speaker 10 (16:39):
Matt?

Speaker 1 (16:39):
What's going on?

Speaker 10 (16:42):
All?

Speaker 9 (16:43):
I'm at this point, man, I'm just ready for right State.
You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm over fat ball.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
I think there's a lot of fans that, yeah, let's
let's get the basketball Let's get the Pope trained rolling.

Speaker 9 (16:56):
I mean it's it's that dome. You know, there's nothing
you know, like, let's get it rolling, Pope try Let's.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Go Pope train, all right. I appreciate the calls say
this is I think that says a lot though about
kind of where the fan base is. Second call is,
let's get the Pope train ready. And by the way,
Pope got a commitment today. A kayten lewis number twenty
five rank player in America pit Kentucky today over Duke
and Yukon. Pretty good. Don't mean that, like I mark

(17:26):
Pope is at least on the recruiting trail. I mean
he's done everything you could do in the first six
months of a tenure and now start Monday, he's just
gotta go win games.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Who's next, Tucker?

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Tucker? What's up? Tucker?

Speaker 7 (17:41):
Hey, Matt?

Speaker 8 (17:42):
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Bro good?

Speaker 11 (17:43):
So honestly echoing the same guy as the same thing
last guy said big on the Pope train for the
basketball season, but wanted to pose the question for the
transfer portal and the quarterback question. I know Brock's been
disappointment this season, not not happy with his performance. What
do you think would have happened if maybe we got
Kyle McCourt instead, Do you think things would have been

(18:06):
a little different?

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah? Maybe, but I I mean there comes a point though,
where is it the player or is it something broader?
I mean we've had you know, who are our best
quarterbacks in the stoops there? Well, I mean Will it
was probably one, But who was number two? Terry or

(18:28):
Steven Johnson? So I mean but it probably was like
they had the most success. So I don't know. I
think Brock is fine. Is he great?

Speaker 4 (18:40):
No?

Speaker 1 (18:41):
But I think he's fine. But let me ask you
a question with that offensive line, like the on the
play where he got knocked out, Like what's he supposed
to do? I mean, what's he supposed to do? Like
I I mean, the dude was in his face and
knocks him out, Like what's he supposed to do?

Speaker 8 (18:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (18:58):
I mean you're right, man, O line is O line
is the biggest, the biggest question mark and the biggest problem.
I mean, Brock can't can't do too much.

Speaker 8 (19:07):
More with that.

Speaker 11 (19:08):
But still got asked the question I wondered, I don't.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Think he would. I think cal McCord was. I mean,
if we had you got to go back to and
I appreciate the call, so that you got to go
back to the way it played out, which was you
thought Liam Cohen was coming back, and Brock was who
Liam wanted for Liam's system, and then he was here

(19:34):
and Liam leaves and you end up getting Bush. It's
likely the case that Bush would have picked a different quarterback,
and it's likely that Brock would have picked a different school.
So Liam leaving kind of created a little bit of
a mismatch fit. And I don't know what you do
about that. I mean Liam left, you know, Liam, I

(19:59):
don't really blame Liam, but Liam said to Stoops, I
promise you I will stay two years. Then he leaves.
Now do I blame him? He got an offensive coordinator
job in the NFL and he's having a lot of success.
I guess I can't really blame him for that. But
it also put him into where they were kind of
in a weird situation, and that's how you end up
where you are.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
You should I mean, you were gonna have Graham Mertz
until Liam came in and said he didn't want Graham.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, but Graham Mertz hasn't been good.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
He no, but it'd be different.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
It would be different. I'd be interested to see who
Bush would have gotten had he gotten a picket, right, Like,
I don't know exactly what he looks for in a quarterback.
He probably would look for a guy who's a better
version of Gavin wims It, but I don't know who
that would have been in terms of who was available. So,
you know, pretty much everything that could have gone wrong

(20:50):
for this group has in some ways, including that. I
mean just the timing of that, You're exactly right, the
timing of all that, Graham Mertz to to Liam to Brock,
you know, Devin Leear, like just all of it was
kind of kind of just we were one step behind
on all of it. So who's next?

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Jordan?

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Jordan? What's up? Jordan?

Speaker 12 (21:14):
Hey, guys, this is like my third week in ROW,
and I'm usually pretty hard on him, and I'm still
not a him the fan, but I want to hammer
ut fans. Excuse my language.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
They could say it on the stadium, but we can't
say it on the radio. So just so you know,
but go.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Ahead, now, I'm dropping that guy.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Sorry, you dropping the whole thing? Yeah, you dropped.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Him, Yeah I did. He can't say that.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, but he probably thought you could because they said
it in the thing.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
No, no, you can't. You can't say that.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
All right, Well that was Jordan's just so you know,
that was a billy decision.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
I mean, that was the final decision. We'll move on.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Wow, that's billy. It's one of eight. That's a harsh decision.
I think he probably thought he could say it.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, there's like seven words you can't say on the radio.
You say one, you don't you get you always.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Say there's seven? Is it really seven?

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I think that was an old like bit back in
the day.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
How many are there?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Do you have a list? I mean, there are words
that are not on the seven that but.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
See, I've never known what they were. I mean I
can guess, but I don't think like I think there's
probably more than seven.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Oh there is, Yeah, there is. But there was an
old bit of seven dirty words in the English language
you couldn't say.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
So you're saying that's one of them, you can't.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Say that's definitely one.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah, okay, Well I think I would like to have
heard his point. Until you've been so angry to him,
but I would say that that was a completely inappropriate
and again, like that dude, was hurt when they said that.
All three of the guys that they booed at were hurt. Now,
I know Childrens came back in, but if you go
back like you go back and those guys, those fans

(23:06):
don't know Childress, but he's not a dude who would
do that. And the other two guys were hurt. One
of them didn't come back in, so you know, I
don't know's it was. It was mostly their students, like
students are students. But Tennessee fans are a special kind
of obnoxious. They just are. I mean, they just are.

(23:27):
And I think they pride themselves in it. I don't
think I'm saying something they disagree with. They like it.
They the sort of they love being rude and they've
played it out on the on the stage tonight.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Who's next, Sean, Sean, what's up?

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Sean?

Speaker 10 (23:44):
Hey, Matt. I've had season tickets for thirty two years
and then I was in college for five, So I've
watched the UK football live for thirty seven years, and
most of the time you know what you've got, and
a lot of times those were really bad teams and all.
But this year it's just, you know, we go toe

(24:07):
to toe with the top ten teams and then the
other ones, and it's just you know, and earlier you
were saying more I think on coaching is like, you know,
where do we go from here? And it's like, it's
not like when we were at the end of the
Curry era, the Joker era or the those We're not

(24:27):
that bad. You know, We've got a we can produce
a good product. We just you know, it's just one
of the more frustrating years out of all of those
because again, not knowing what you're going to get day
to day with them from you know, some really good
stuff to some really bad stuff. And it's just been

(24:47):
a it's been a just a hard to describe season.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well, you're right about I mean, think about this. What
We've played three teams in the top eight, okay, and
we let it halftime in every game. And then we've
played three teams that have combined for like four sec
wins and we lost to all of them, two of

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them at home. Like that's frustrating. It's frustrating. It's frustrating
to go to half against Georgia, Old Miss and Tennessee
ahead and then to go lose to Auburn Florida Vandy
and get blown out by South Carolina. You're right, I
mean that is that is an oddly different kind of

(25:34):
frustrating because it's not like the teams you and I
remember years ago where we were just never in.

Speaker 10 (25:39):
It right and you know, you know, there's been a
lot of times we've gone to Knoxville and you know,
the game was over in five minutes kind of thing
where yes, you know, that didn't happen tonight. They played hard,
and you know, for what they had, it was a
you know, they did they showed up, which you know
a lot of people didn't think they would, and.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
They definitely showed up tonight. I mean, I do think
they show like that's partially why tonight, doesn't, you know.
I mean, I'm kind of getting destroyed online for saying
I wasn't upset like tonight is not the issue to me, Like,
I mean, they made mistakes, the whims that interception is
a bad interception. That's a really bad interception, and then

(26:24):
the offensive line play is what it is. But I
actually think they played pretty well tonight. My problem is
the rest of the year.

Speaker 10 (26:31):
Oh yeah, absolutely, But one last thing, but in two weeks,
drive an eight hour round trip and go watch display
Murray State. But the watching so much UK football. The
Tennessee fans are the most classless of every conference team.

(26:52):
Uh they are by far the bottom from as far
as class from a fan base.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, well, appreciate it. I don't disagree with you from that.
I mean you don't look they're great Tennessee fans too.
I mean it's not all of them. It's just I
think every fan base has got bad people, like bad
actors in it. I just think theirs go worse than
everybody else. That's the way I would put it. One

(27:20):
person writes, Billy is getting big for his breeches. Does
he think he just gets to decide who drops the calls?

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Well, yes, because I dropped the calls and run the show.
Yeah all right, so literally.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
By definition you get to do it. Yeah right, Okay.
You think they're right though, that you're getting a little
big for.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Your probably Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Well, it's late at night. You you know, I can
tell you you hit a salty point. It usually happens
about one o seven am. That's when I think that
that's when I think you get tired and you start
to get salty.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Most of the time, I've tried to be more optimistic
and positive on these shows.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
We're good because we're gonna have some but we don't
have a lot of nine o'clock games this year though.
In basketball, I think I saw only one conference game
is nine o'clock.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Only I think we play Oklahoma nine. Yeah, the Champions
Classic is gonna be really really late.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
What's next, Let's go to Lance Lance.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
What's up? Lance?

Speaker 13 (28:17):
Yeah, Matt, I don't think it really would have made
a difference at night, but I can't be the only
one who has noticed that their defensive line they never
seem ready for the snap when a team plays up tempo.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Ever, yeah, they don't. I think part of it is
so I think the reason teams do that against this
is a it works. But me also because our guys
get our big guys get really tight on the defensive line.
We've got we got some really good defensive linemen, but
I wouldn't say they're all in the best shape, and

(28:50):
I wouldn't say they all every play give one hundred energy.
So I think when they get us on two or
three snaps in a row, I think you're right, You'll
you'll see something. You'll see one or two of our
defensive linemen just kind of stand there, and I think
you're I think that's I think that's you know, clearly
coaches have seen that on tape, and so that's intentional.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
Absolutely.

Speaker 13 (29:13):
It seems like they never get down in the stance
when he goes up tempo, they're just standing there waiting
for the just waiting around, and nobody gets down the stance.
And other than that, let's go Mark Pope.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
That's all I got to say.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
All Right, I appreciate him. Hey, if I'm nine two
eight h twenty two eighty seven, you know, yeah, Dean Walker.
I watched some of those plays peel. He gets like
three or four guys on him. Now he also takes
plays off like you can just see it. But he

(29:44):
also it's amazing how many dudes they put the other
team puts on him to try to stop me.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, you think he's gonna be successful at the next level.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
I think he's cost himself. I think there are gonna
be real questions about his effort level, which has probably
cost him some spots in the draft. But I think
if if a team gets him in, I mean, he's
a beast like so he's a beast, and in the
NFL they won't I mean in the NFL, like, if
he doesn't play, they'll just sit him, right, So I mean, yeah,

(30:17):
So my answer that is, yes, I think he'll be good.
I think it's gonna be. I think when he is
focused in playing, he's as dominant as anybody I've seen
at Kentucky at that position. I think he takes a
lot of plays off and I think that's gonna be
and I think it's gonna cost him draft slot, but
he's gonna be a first round pick because there's just
too much talent. I mean, they just don't make dudes

(30:38):
like that, you know, I mean, I don't know if
you remember, there's a couple of plays they put him
on the end and he got to the quarterback. He
was playing on the end a dude that size and
he got to the quarterback. That's why he's gonna get drafted,
because you just don't see dudes who can do that.
Let's do one more and we'll take a break. Who's Nate, Nate?
What's up? Nate?

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Man, I don't think one way would have made me
happy other than a w Like if we lost by seven,
or one lost by fifty. I was completely over the
season anyway onto Pope, but you know, now we can
start sort of taking him my off season. And there's
two questions I want to ask you. One is, hey,
next week, do you do you prepare Cutter and see

(31:22):
what you got for the next year?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
And then, uh, I think they'll I think they'll play
Cutter some against Murray. Yeah, I mean I don't think
you start him, But it depends on It depends on
what Brock's hell's like too. Like if you're if you
think Brock is hurt but could come back, then I
think you play whims it and cut her. If you
think he's out for the year, obviously you have to
play whims it and cut her. If you think like

(31:44):
he's one hundred percent, then you play him. It just depends,
but I would bet you they will play Cutter some
against Murray. Murray's bad. I mean Murray's like really bad,
Like Murray's like win one game in D two bad.

Speaker 7 (31:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
I hope so, because I have a feeling he's gonna
be the only Q on the roster going next year.
And then the next question I would be, this is
just directly to you you know, I kind of thought
about it a lot, and regardless of transfers, there's.

Speaker 7 (32:13):
Gonna be a giant turnover next year.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Half the offense, half the defense graduating. Do you that
that includes three of our starters off of an already
poor offensive line.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Do you see Stoops having the energy to go and
try to get twenty million dollars?

Speaker 1 (32:29):
That's a great question. Yeah, that's a great question. Right.
So here's there's two completely different scenarios. If Mark Stoops
is not the coach, then I have no idea who's
gonna roster's gonna be right, Like just throwing up in
the air. Who knows if he is the coach. I
think Brock is back, probably with Cutter. There's still a

(32:54):
chance that might not be the case, but I think
it probably is. I think Dane are probably gone. I
think they go with young receivers, try to find warners
because they got some good freshmen on there, one or
two in the portal. I think you spend most of
your uh nile money on the offensive line. I think

(33:14):
they basically go and try to get an all new
offensive line, which may not work, but that's what they're
gonna They don't have a choice. They don't. They just
don't have a choice. On defense, they've got a lot
of young guys that can play. You're right, they're gonna
lose a lot of dudes. But think about it, like
this is the caller still there, hung up. Okay, So
we had a bunch of older guys out tonight and

(33:36):
the defense still played pretty well. I think there's gonna
be some guys that, you know, it's gonna be sad
to see him go because they've been here a long time.
Like JJ, we haven't had Maxwell Harrison most of the year,
but we got young guys who can play at some
of those positions. But I mean, they're gonna they are
gonna have to spend their money on the big dudes
up front. On offensive defense, you're gonna lose Dean Walker,

(33:58):
You're gonna lose uh Tripka and those guys. So you're
gonna have to replace your offensive line, your defensive line,
and that's gotta be what they have to do. And
that's hard and will Mark Stoops want to do it,
I don't know. That's part of why it's a rebuild
coming this year anyway, and it's probably like a two
year plan to get good again, And does he want

(34:18):
to do that? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
You think Dane leaves?

Speaker 1 (34:24):
I mean I don't know. I mean, what would you stay?
I mean, let's say you're Dan Key. Let's be honest.
I mean he's from Lexington, so that's a different And this,
by the way, is with no inside knowledge. It's just
me talking. But your dain Key, You've had a great year.
You're now the fifth all time leading receiver in UK history,
which was kind of an amazing stat to see to night.

(34:47):
You probably are not a top three round draft pick,
but you probably have that talent. Are you coming back
or are you gonna go play for a team that
can win a national championship.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
I mean if I might get offered eight hundred thousand
dollars somewhere, then yeah, maybe have to leave.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
But let's just say that money is the same, because
I bet the money would be the same. I bet
whatever he would get somewhere else he could get here.
Would you want to go play at Alabama or Georgia
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I wouldn't want to be in this passing attack again.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I mean I think that's the problem. The problem to
me is less nil it it's that does this system
showcase his ability the way you would hope same with Barryon,
Like does this system and I don't know that you
can say for sure that it does. So height fi
Ive'm nine eight twenty two eighty seven. We will take

(35:41):
a break and we'll be right back. This is the
Local Toy Dealers KSR post game show. Walk back. It
is the Local Toy Dealers KSR post game show. So
people say the seven words that comes from George Carlin Billy,
and I think there's a lot more than seven.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Oh yeah, we had to expand that list.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
We think there's like twenty.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
One oddly specific number, but well.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Three times seven, Like, I bet there's a lot that
you can't say. One person writes, I think Billy sounds
arrogant tonight, thinking he can just cut people off. You
think about that.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Literally my job again, this is my job. Make sure
my heart does not get fine.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
What person writes, Billy always seems to think he knows everything,
So tell him to ask him this. Who is going
to win the presidential election? Okay, Billy, there you go.
If you know everything, who's gonna win Tuesday? Tell everybody?

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Well, one, I clearly don't. As we've learned in UK
sports trivia.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Think Reggie Hansen integrated the UK.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Basketball and I also stay out of politics.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
So we make a prediction. You're not saying what you
want to happen. You can just say what you think
is gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
I think it's gonna be a real close race. I
mean people are going to the polls and they still
have no idea who they're gonna vote for.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
So you think they go and don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, they just get you know, racketeered by.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Next to me. You're gonna do one of those Mike francessa.
They win some races, they lose some races. They've been up,
they've been down. One of those things.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Kind of like that lady that was looking for some
who to vote for on Amendment to I'm just gonna
look around and say, yeah, who should vote for?

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen. I haven't. I
have a guess, but I'll save it for uh, for
Tuesday morning. We'll see. But you need to go vote, Billy,
don't not vote.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Oh I will, I will my duty?

Speaker 1 (37:35):
That does Who's next?

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Cam?

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Cam, go ahead, cam?

Speaker 7 (37:40):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Guys?

Speaker 7 (37:40):
How are we doing tonight.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Well, what's going on?

Speaker 7 (37:45):
You got it? Manh I think Dion this is super random.
I think he's who we wanted matt Elam to become.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Am I right, ah, No, I remember matt elm. But
you're saying Dion's what we had hoped. That's probably what
they hoped. But Dion's a freaking athlete. I mean, I
know he's not like his you. I don't know that
we'll ever see it like that. Dude is a special athlete,
and when you stand next to him, you really see it.

(38:15):
He is.

Speaker 7 (38:16):
For sure. That was random. But I think the frustration
with your tweet, man, is because you're right, it wasn't
really more so this game, the guys brought it. I
don't think anybody brought it. I thought it was super weird.
When the commentators were saying that they were feeling like
lowness from the coaches this week, I think that's you know,
I think that says a lot, though, because I see

(38:38):
it in Stups'm pretty sure everybody sees it and hears it,
I think.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
But they didn't play like a team though. They didn't
play like a team that hadled it. They didn't anything.
I mean, you know, the announcers were acting like he
thought the staff had done that, but they didn't play
like that. I mean, I thought they played I thought
they played hard. I thought, you know, they didn't play
perfect or even great at times, but I thought they

(39:03):
played hard.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
No, but like his halftime, like his expressions now all
season have just been no. Yeah, he seems kind of emotionless.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
He has not been the fiery, the fiery person that.
So a guy sent me a video of me interviewing
Cal in twenty twelve, and it was interesting to listen
because Cal his voice, he sounded like a different person
in twenty twelve than he sounds like now. I think.

Speaker 12 (39:38):
So.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Then I went back and listened to a Stoops interview
in like twenty sixteen, and he sounded different too. It
was just like a different energy. And I agree with you,
Stoops doesn't sound the same in terms of just I'm
not saying he doesn't have that fire, but he doesn't
sound like it.

Speaker 7 (39:55):
Yeah, he doesn't look healthy, man. And what do you
think about Hamden saying they wait too late to feed Wilcox.
I'm pretty sure everybody who's been watching the team this
year could have called that.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
I didn't see that he say that. He said that
in the postgame comedy he did.

Speaker 7 (40:10):
He said they weighed about two games too late to
start feeding Wilcox.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Well, I mean it's that's his choice, though, isn't it.
I mean, I I.

Speaker 7 (40:20):
Mean, the man was averaging eight yards of carry from
from like the third game on.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
So well, I mean he's I think he's writing about that.
I appreciate the call, but I mean, isn't Bush is
the one that decides, doesn't he? So? I mean, I'm
glad he saw that, but maybe we should have seen
it a couple of games earlier. You know, I don't know.
I felt like all year when I hear Mark talk.

(40:47):
I guess I haven't really heard Bush talk a lot,
but when I've heard Mark, it felt it's always felt
like to me, he doesn't really know what he wants
to do, Like he doesn't have answers. And you know,
I feel like the thing about Marcus, He's always honest,
and if he if he thinks he doesn't have answers, Billy,
I guess he doesn't, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I mean that's yeah, I'm probably extremely frustrated. I can't
say what he really.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Wants to see we're all kind of frustrated. It'd be
interesting to hear if they could hear what they really thought,
what they would say. What's next, Mitch, Mitch? How are you, Mitch.

Speaker 8 (41:23):
Yo? Doing all right?

Speaker 1 (41:25):
What's going on? Telly?

Speaker 5 (41:26):
I was at the very first Stoops game in Nashville
and got our asses kicked by Bobby Pue. I just
hope we hope we hold it on the rope.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
I hope you don't want it to end full you
don't want to end full circle.

Speaker 14 (41:44):
Yeah, I mean that's the question. I hope that this
team just continues to be tough. I mean that's what
this entire programs were built on. And I know it sucks.

Speaker 8 (41:56):
This year sucks. This just sucks.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
There's no good, no way getting around.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
But you know, if you think back to that team
you saw in Nashville, you think back to that team
you saw in Nashville. You know that team had like
almost no talent, right, I mean I think the maybe
was it was Avery Williamson on it, like they had
like one or two good he was. I think like
it was like Avery Williamson and you know the quarterback

(42:22):
was Jalen Whitlow. I mean like they just didn't have
They really didn't have any talent, but they played really
hard and they lost those games. I think what's frustrating
is if you were to look at the talent level
of this team versus that team, it would be night
and day. And yet we may finish this year with

(42:43):
three wins or four, you know, and and they I mean,
we could finish it with three and ye you know,
or well, actually that's not true. We could finish it
before before You're right, four, We could finish shit with
full and so twice as many wins, but ten times

(43:04):
as much talent.

Speaker 14 (43:07):
Right, I mean, that's what that was really is really
frustrating to me as a fan. I don't really need
you to win ten wins a year.

Speaker 8 (43:16):
Just be tough.

Speaker 14 (43:17):
Yeah, and don't get embarrassed, old drone, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, I'm with you. Schedule and you know the schedule
like this year. I appreciate the call. I mean, if
you had just done what you're supposed to do, the
year you could have had when you consider how well
we've done against the good teams, it's just I mean,
old Miss, there's a really good chance the old Miss

(43:45):
will not make the playoff because we beat them and
that will be our only SEC win. Why that's really frustrating.
We are going to keep a team out of the
playoffs and yeah, that's going to be our only conference
with We'll do one more, We'll take the file break.
Who's next? Greg?

Speaker 7 (44:06):
You k?

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Greg? Go ahead?

Speaker 8 (44:09):
Here's thinking that's frustrating. I bet Old Miss is more frustrated, but.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
They would be the ones much more frustrated. That's right.

Speaker 15 (44:17):
So uh, going back to Dane man, I'm a huge
Dane fan. I love number six. I do not want
to see him leave. And if he did leave, I
got a feeling it would be to Columbia, South Carolina
And did you see what they did today?

Speaker 8 (44:30):
So it's like, please don't don't go there. But that's
that's not why I'm calling.

Speaker 15 (44:36):
Here's here's my thing is and I'm a big Brock fan.

Speaker 8 (44:41):
I'm from Owensborough, so I love Gavin. I want to
tell Brock, dude, you don't have an O line. You
haven't had an O line all year.

Speaker 15 (44:50):
He got blue up and I hope he's okay, but
at what point does he realize he don't have an
O line that he needs to do something different because
I I see something different with Gavin. He's not getting
blown up as much as Brock.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right. Now
the play that got Brock hurt, I'm not sure what
else he could have done. I mean, like that guy
was in his fast within a second. But in general,
I agree with you. I think he holds on too long,
holds onto the ball too long. I felt like there
was a period in this game where he kind of
was scared to throw, like he wouldn't just let it

(45:26):
go and then he would end up getting sacked or
But the thing is, the kid is tough man. He'll
run and get ten or twelve yards on a scramble.
But you're right. I mean I sometimes wonder if Bush
also calls plays for how bad our line is. I mean,
we don't have time for a lot of this stuff
to develop that we call.

Speaker 8 (45:45):
Yeah, agree, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Gavin doesn't get blown up as much, which is in
which I hadn't really thought about that. But you're right,
he doesn't. And Brock, does you know that the game
changed with the hit that knocked him out? Both knocked
him o out, we fumbled the ball. It was third
and one took us out of Yeah, I mean that
was that was the game change right there. If I'm
nine two, eight oh twenty two eighty seven, we will

(46:09):
take a break, come back, take your final calls as usual.
You guys still call. It doesn't matter even after a
bad loss in the middle of the night. Best fan
base in sports will be right back. It's the Local
Toy Dealers KSR postgame Show running back. Final segment is
the Local Toy Dealers KSR postgame Show. If I'm nine
two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, Uh, you know,

(46:31):
I'm trying to put Billy on the spot. I just
saw the betting nods have now gone to fifty to fifty,
sixty four to thirty six Trump on Thursday, fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
It's close.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
I always thought there was good money there on the
Harris thing, just sixty four to thirty. But this has
been todd forever. Why was it sixty four to thirty
six Now it's fifty to fifty, So who knows. But
Billy will not take a stand, even though he will
hang up on people who just quote the Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
It's my job.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
All they do is just all they do is just
quote the Tennessee crowd and you go and hang up
on them.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
And they and you know, Rocky Top's the worst. But
they play that old, slowed down female voice in the stadium.
I don't know if you hear it through the TV,
it's just.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Singing Rocky time.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
It's yeah, it's the woman.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
It's not a female voice though. Those are Are you
talking about the old timey version? That's those are? Those
are guys.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
There's a grainy version they play in the stadium. That's
the Osbourne bro every other down here, you pull up.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
I don't want to no, the they're gonna you're gonna
think the Osbourne Brothers are women, but they're not. Play
find the Osbourne's version and you tell me if you
think that is a woman, because it's not. Those are guys.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Okay, I'll do my research here. Okay, Well we take
a call or two.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
All right, If I'm nine two, eight oh twenty two,
what's the big NFL game? You know I got to
do an NFL show here in nine hours? So what's
what are the games tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Well, Monday night's the big one in my world.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Ducks. Yeah, yeah, but we don't really talk a lot
about the Monday night. What's the four to twenty five
game lines? Packers?

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Okay, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yeah, looking at this, these are bad slight. Tomorrow is
gonna be a tough, tough go of it for.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Me, maybe a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Preparedst Ravens, Okay, yeah, I mean I'm looking right now.
That's something, isn't it?

Speaker 7 (48:27):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Colts Vikings, Colts Vikings.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
All right, yeah, Joe Flackoh, okay, who's hammer? Hammer? How
are you hammer?

Speaker 8 (48:36):
What's going on? What's going on? Phil's a bad night?

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 8 (48:42):
I mean it's it's been a bad night. Guess. But
Mayett they killed me because I love Mark Stoops Yeah,
and I love what he's done with this program, but
this offensive line, like, oh my goodness, how do you
revert back to what ruined your offensive line?

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Like it's I think it's like a three year I
think it's like a three year process because if you
go look at the guys that he we've had success
with on the offensive line, they've all been guys come
up through the program. A lot of them been from
Kentucky or from the Ohio Michigan area that Vince recruits
that's where we had had our success. And then I
don't know. I mean, Freddie used to say he didn't

(49:27):
think the coaches developed the young guys. But you know,
you look at you look at what we have now,
we've got a couple of those guys with Eli and Jagger.
But then we brought these transfers in. I think you
have to say the transfers really haven't worked. And then,
you know, I mean we talked about, well, what about
the young guys, but we're having to play a young

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guy and he's really struggling right now, and so I
don't know.

Speaker 8 (49:52):
I agree, I agree, and you know, hey, let them guys,
let's get a couple of years in the white ring.
Let's make them all arms goat from the slaby arms
players with some bolt. But you reverted back to the
guy that killed our offensive line. Let's just admit that slarman,
God risk his soul. That was our last winning Knoxville. Yeah,

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we have not been the same since. We have not
been the same thing.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
No, we haven't. We have not been. It's not been
the same since he passed. I think that's fair to say.

Speaker 8 (50:24):
And you know, and that's what Stukes built his resume.
Let's be tough upfront offenses line, defensive line, let's be tough,
and offensive line has just not been there.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Well, think about this, Think about this stat. This is
an amazing stat to me, Hammer, and I think it
says a lot about the success we had and the
problem we have now. In my lifetime, starting in nineteen
seventy eight until two thy sixteen, do you know how
many offensive linemen from nineteen seventy eight to twenty sixteen

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we had drafted in the first fours of the NFL drafted?

Speaker 8 (51:02):
Do you know, I would say easily in or list.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
We had four, all right, four in thirty eight years.
From twenty sixteen till twenty twenty one, we had five.
So we had five guys drafted in five years after
having four in thirty eight. And I can tell you
we ain't gonna have any drafted on the team right now.

(51:26):
So I think that difference. I think that difference from
having five guys in FI I mean, we had five
top four round draft picks in five years. To go
from that to what we have, I think is what
you're seeing. The difference is in the in our play.

Speaker 8 (51:44):
Yeah, and I agree with that. You know, and I
just like, you know, to get back to what got
you here and what made you successful. Litt reinvest in
that offensive line. Let's get tough again, because I mean,
if we put Winsen in and then yours, that we
had to run Lynn Bowden after a quarterback. I think

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we all agree Wensday is a better quarterback than Lynn
Bowden was. But it's the same running talent. But when
you got a better offensive line in front of.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
That, Yeah, but yeah, you're right. Lynn had a much
better offensive line and he was faster, which helped to
I appreciate the call. All right, So did you find
the recording? Is this the one year talking it is?

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah? It's them, all.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Right, So so play it real quick, just not it's
just a second of it. I mean, they beat us,
so we can play it. So you thought that was
a woman, Yes, it's not. Those are guys. And let
me go further. They're from Leslie County.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Condition I knew that. I knew that, But you thought
that was a woman. They slow it down in the
stadium and it's just the vocals.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
And yeah, and do you want to apologize to the
family of the Osborne brothers?

Speaker 2 (52:59):
No, no, I don't think you know? Okay, all right, Well,
after they beat us, Jeff.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Drummond just wrote me and texted me and said he
thought it was a woman too, and he knows the
Osborne brothers, but he said the recording is slower and
a cappella in the stadius.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Okay, good, yes it is, Yeah, it's you can't hear.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
That on TV. I don't think. Uh, let's do three
more and we'll call it a night. Who's next?

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Okay, Joe, Joe?

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Go ahead, Joe, hey man, how are you doing tonight? Good?
What's up?

Speaker 4 (53:31):
I was is there any talk around the program this year,
because if there was, I even't heard it that Bush
and Stoops want Brock to be under center more often,
but that he doesn't feel comfortable doing so. Because I've
listened to the national radio broadcast night they were talking
a lot about it, and honestly in some weird ways

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at times.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
How did you know? First of all, that's my guy
ian coach that did the game? What did what did?

Speaker 13 (53:57):
What?

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Did? They say? You know?

Speaker 4 (54:00):
At one point? And trust me, it was odd. They
talked about it on and off over for like fifteen minutes,
but they essentially said they made it sound as if,
without saying Stoops or Bush flat out said this isn't
the quarterback we would ideally have. They made it sound
as if those guys are frustrated that they would like

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to run more Rock has never been under center and
doesn't like being under center. And then in the conversation
they made it sound less like it's just because he's
never done it, but more because and they were kind
of trying not to work blue or be crude, but

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essentially they were kind of laughing and joking that it
sounds like Brock doesn't want to put his hands up
against the center's butt and like, which is obviously a
part of the job. Really they we was saying like
at one point he said I and like there were
two different parts of it that were funny. One he

(55:07):
almost made it sound like they were Stoop's therapist, because
at one point they joked that whichever coach you're talking to,
I'm guessing it was Stoops went on some long rambling
thing about the hands under the butt and I don't
know how we can relay this story to you on
the air without that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Well, so all right, so I didn't hear it, obviously,
Ian fitz Simmons, who dead the game. He is very
close with the Stoops family. So my assumption would be
that they talked to Stoops. I have gotten the sense,
and again this is I'm not saying this is true.

(55:48):
This is just the sense I've gotten that maybe Stoops
and Bush feel like Brock that is not the kind
of quarterback that is best for what they're doing. Okay,
that's just a sense I've gotten. I've gotten the sense
that that's people seem to sort of have sort of

(56:11):
seemed to think online that there's a divide between Bush
and Stoops. I haven't gotten that since. I've kind of
gotten the sense that they just are like, we have
this personnel that was for this other coordinator and that's
not what I do. And that sounds kind of what
you're saying that they were hinting at on the national broadcast.

Speaker 7 (56:33):
No, it was odd.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
And then guy, I may ask and then see what
see if I can get some insight before before Friday.
So I appreciate to call. I don't know, maybe it
is Billy. Maybe they're saying doesn't want to touch the butt.
I don't know. I feel like you have to touch.
But if you're going to do the quarterback job.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Right unless you're in shotgun the entire time.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Yeah, I didn't think that would be the conversation tonight,
but there you go.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
You never know what a ridiculous is the truth.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Surprised Billy didn't drop it the way he's been acting tonight.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Who's now? I don't know if this is coach, but
Ian's on the line.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
What's up, coach?

Speaker 6 (57:12):
No, not not not coaching. Joe's got Joe's got me
really flustered with the under center thing.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
I got n have to ask tomorrow what he's talking about.
But go ahead.

Speaker 6 (57:25):
Okay, So I got a lot of things I want
to say, but I'm going to narrow it down to two.
And please, I know you're gonna want You're gonna say
something after the first one, but let me get my
second one in because I all right, Okay, here we go.
So the first thing is, I'm the same age as you,
and the reason that you and I both love Mark
Soops is that he brought a passion and a fire

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to this program that did not exist in our lifetime.
He is that underdog who wants to punch people in
the mouth who are better than him, who are bigger
than him. Who are you know the programs that are
supposed to be better than us, right? And he has
always prided himself and made sure that we are ready

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for a game like this. And it doesn't matter what
year it is, doesn't matter if it's year one.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
I got that one. What's your second one? Okay?

Speaker 6 (58:21):
So the second one is the problem is is that
we still have things like whatever just came up halfway
through the show that that Billy verified that Stoop said,
or that that him, that the bush said that we
should were two games late in Willcox and that The
fact is is that whenever something happens like a guy

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can't tie his shoes on right, Mark will shut it down.
And even though it's the best thing for the program,
and it's really crazy, it's really frustrating, but Mark is
the guy who will always punch up every single time.
And that's why I love him so much. There's a
nobody gave him any there's nothing about tonight that anybody

(59:03):
had any input, any like look forward to. And he
came in and he punched him in the mouth for
a two and a half quarters and you're almost got
it done. And that's enough for people like us who
have never had anything.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Yeah, listen, I think there is a huge divide, and
I appreciate the call. It's it's fascinating to me, and
it's worth a conversation at some point, and I'm sure
we'll have it as we get to the end of
the season. There is definitely a divide in the fan
base by age, in the same way that there was
with Cal. It's odd though, because the two sides almost
take the exact opposite view. With Cal, you could the

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young the younger fans did not want him criticized. The
older fans were very critical. Now it's almost flipped. The
older fans give Stoops a little more leeway, the younger
fans say get out of here. And it's all based
on the expectation of what things were like when we

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were yet when we you know, they always say, Billy
that everybody thinks music and Saturday Night Live was the
best when they were in high school and college. Right, Yeah,
whatever it was when you were in high school and college,
that's what the best was. So for me, nineties music
and the Adam Sandler Chris Farley era that's the best,

(01:00:23):
all right. Other people that are older than me will
say Chevy Chase and you two right, you would probably say,
I don't know what music was popular when you were
in college.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
I mean there was a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
All right, you're really helping my conversation. But the point
is the point, And I think the same thing is
true with fandom, Like we sort of develop our fandom
based on how it was when we really got serious
about it, which is like high school, middle school, et cetera.
So I'm used to Kentucky football sucking and Kentucky back

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basketball being great, and so my standard is what it
is with Stoops. For me, I end up giving him
more leeway than a lot of younger fans because I
remember when we played this game, it was the last
game every year, and I just hope we'd stay within
forty that's truth. But he has reset the expectations for

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Kentucky football to now it's different. But to me, whatever
your expectation level is, this season has stunk. I don't
care if it's my old expectations or the younger fans
new expectations. This season has been a failure. So the
question is what do you do going from here? And

(01:01:41):
we'll have to see. I think the Louisville game is
gonna be huge because Louisville's playing better now. They beat
Clemson to night. If they pound us in that final
game in our stadium, I don't know. We'll see though.
First we got to see if anybody will show up
to Murray State in two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Oh boy, let's do one more.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Who's next?

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Michael gotta be quick?

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Michael finished? Why does it have to be quick? All right?
All quick? All right?

Speaker 8 (01:02:10):
So I've been a Supers fan since he was a
Florida State.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
And going forward it's terrible.

Speaker 7 (01:02:21):
I mean, I'm a season I'm a season ticket holder.
But what are we going to do going forward?

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
I don't know. I think we've got to see how
it ends, because if it ends terribly, then I think
we're gonna have a different result. If it ends with
a win against Louisville, then that's a different result. And
if it ends in the middle where we play a
little a close but lose, then I don't know. I

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appreciate the call. The thing about the cal Era, it
ended definitively when he walked off the court at Oakland,
we kind of all knew this can't continue. I don't
think it's like that with Stoops yet, but we're gonna
see that the next three weeks or lot, and we're
gonna have to see what the off season looks like.
We're gonna have to see what the roster turnover looks like.

(01:03:12):
So there's a lot still to be determined. Billy, the
clock is about to change. Billy says, if when the
clock changes, if we're still on the air, we all explode.
And I don't want that to happen, So we're gonna
let it go now, everybody, enjoy your evening. We'll be
back at the bar all week. And then of course
Kentucky and Wright State Monday. Remember the women play at

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five on Monday, the men play at seven, So both
new coaches start their new eras on Monday. Should be exciting.
We lose to Tennessee. Unfortunately, I'm used to that. Twenty
eight to eighteen. See y'all later. This has been the
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