NFL Cover Zero: Bears/Bengals Madness, Celebrity Couples, and Upset wins!

Matt Jones and Drew Franklin dive into NFL Week 9 after Matt was in attendance for Bears/Bengals!  Matt had never witnessed a Bears victory in person, but explains the roller coaster of emotions through the Bengals comeback and ultimate Chicago win.

The BIlls notch their 5th straight regular season win over the Chiefs. Turnovers found the Colts, who take a loss to the Steelers.  An extra point makes the difference in the Patriots win.  Matt pauses to rank the celebrity couples in the NFL.  The Broncos get a game winning FG over the Texans. The Jaguars hold off the Raiders for an OT win, including a recording setting 68yd FG for Cam Little. 

JJ McCarthy throws 2 TDs in the Vikings win over the Lions.   An upset win for the Panthers over the Packers.  The Chargers hold off the Titans. Mac Jones leads the 49ers to a win over the Giants. Sam Darnold and the Seahawks cruise past the Commanders.  We wrap up with Survivor League picks and the TD Parlays. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
NFL Covers Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is
a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. It is
NFL Covers zero, Week nine, and you are talking to
a happy Matt Jones who has come home from maybe

(00:30):
one of the best sporting events that I've been to,
certainly the best regular season up there sporting events in
my lifetime. I mean, if you'd look at it, if
I was at the Bears Bengals game today, most NFL
shows will lead with Bill's Chiefs. Not this one with
Matt Jones and Drew Franklin, because Drew I was in

(00:50):
attendance in Cincinnati for the spectacle that was Bears Bengals. Today,
I'm wearing my Bears shirt. It was wild, it was fun,
and I don't know how it came across on TV,
but in person one of the strangest and coolest events
I've been to.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I was watching from the couch and it was still
pretty awesome. With all due respect to the Bill's Chiefs,
I think most shows will lead with this because that
was just a crazy finish. I know these aren't Super
Bowl contenders, not teams get talked about a lot, but
that was just a wild ending and fun to watch
from home.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Forty seven forty two is not a big twelve score, right,
that's not an NFL score. That's a big twelve score,
and it was insanely fun. I just want to if
you will, if you'll bear with me, I want to
go through what all happened in this game, okay, because
it's wild. First of all, I watch you it. Picture
the environment. It's Cincinnati, Ohio. We've talked about drunkest fans

(01:46):
in the NFL games. At one o'clock, I did my
ESPN pregame show at a bar, Holy Grail, in Cincinnati.
People were already drunk before the game. Okay, So when
I walked to the game, as you know, I heard
my back a few days ago, so I'm hobbling a
little bit. I walked from Holy Grail to the stadium.
My show ends at twelve fifty seven. By the time

(02:07):
I get into the stadium, it's already seven to seven.
You know, they run the opening kickoff back. Yeah, the
Bears drive down the field and score immediately, right. So
the time I get to my seat, it's seven to seven.
The game that followed, the Bengals might have the worst
defense that anyone has ever had. Caleb Williams was just

(02:32):
owning them. They would get The Bengals have a decent
defensive line. They can get pressure, but they could never
wrap him up. And then that Bengals secondary. I believe
you and I play in it. I could have. You
certainly have to have bad backs. Suit they cover like
they have bad backs. They all have. They avoid contact

(02:52):
like it. The game goes back and forth. Bears miss
a field goal right before halftime. But let's start with
the craziness. Okay, it is forty one to twenty seven,
Bears are up two touchdowns, they had gotten an interception,
and then I don't think I've ever seen anything like
this in sports. Joe Flacco on three plays, throws two interceptions,

(03:15):
both of which are returned either for a touchdown or
inside the five by the Bears. I literally Drew celebrated
two touchdown interception returns, only to have them both called back,
the first one due to a penalty, the second one

(03:35):
because they say he was down. I don't know. I
couldn't seeither. Was he down? Yeah, yeah, questionable. It did
not feel like it in person that he was down,
But I thought he would. I thought he'd scored. Now
I want you to understand what happened. Probably a third
of the crowd are Bears fans, A lot of Bears fans.
I didn't know. Did you know Bears fans traveled like that.

(03:57):
I didn't think so.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
And maybe part of the jets last week with Bengals
fans maybe gave up some tickets.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
But I'm I'm surprised, But I guess the Bears are
only like six hours away, so a lot of Bears
fans there. And also, you know, I personally had never
seen the Bears win in person. I counted, I've been
to seven Bears games in my life. In person, we
were zero and seven.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
That's said, your lifelong team. You've liked him since you.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Were a child, since I was a little child. I've
been seven times. They had never won. It didn't occur
to me until he gets that interception. They have to
picture what happens. He runs it back. Bears fans are
losing their mind, and the Bengals fans stream out of
the stadium. I don't mean like walk out of the stadium.

(04:45):
They run out of the stadium. Half the crowd is
now gone and the only people left are Bears fans.
The Bengals fans have all left because why would they
stay on their home field. We're dancing, but the Bears
fans are chanting green Bay sucks. They're literally chanting Green

(05:08):
Bay sucks. Green Bay sucks. And then all of a sudden,
the rest go wait a minute, he's down. I had
already taken my victorious selfie. Oh I saw this selfie.
You know this. That was the second one. I ain't
taking a first one. Celebrating well, all of a sudden,
when they bring it back, I look and drew, I

(05:30):
think to myself, because you know, I'm like a clockhead
when it comes to football. Two minutes thirty five seconds,
the Bengals have three timeouts, and I look at my
friends and I go, it's not over. And they were like,
what come on, it's fuck, it's not over. You will score.

(05:52):
You have three timeouts on sidekick, it's not over. And
they're like whatever. Bengals drive down the field, go for two.
Ye that did it to me? Now I do it? Tea?
Did you like that move? I did? I'm all about
going for two these days when you're down two touchdowns. Yeah,
And some of the things we've talked about just the mathematics.

(06:14):
It makes more sense than it than before. More teams
are doing it now, so now there's an on side
kick now. I don't know if you have the numbers, Billy,
but I think there'd only been one onside kick recovered
so far this year. I mean in the NFL, nobody
recovers it rarely rare because you have to declare it.
Uh huh. You have to declare it. You have to
have two parliamentary bodies pass emotion allowing it, and then

(06:39):
so like it never happens. But I'm telling you, Drew,
I sit there and I thought it's gonna happen. You
felt it. I did feel it, I really did. If
I could have gone on DraftKings, I would have bet
Cincinnati recovers his on inside kick. They kick it, the
ball doesn't even go across the line of scrimmage. The
Bears guy just decides to come in over and he

(07:02):
kicked it himself. Did go ten yards?

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Why did he do that? I don't think it was intentional.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
But it was like a yard away from the ten
yard mark. It wasn't even gonna cross the ten yard mark.
And if the dude doesn't kick it, we win. Game over,
we're back to Channing. Green Bery sucks caught his right
foot though catches his right foot. The moment he does that,
everyone knows that the Bengals are gonna win. But here's
the problem. All the Bengals fans have left. All the

(07:31):
Bengals fans have left. They're back in Holy Grail. They're
already gone. So you have a stadium full of sad
Bears fans because we know what's gonna happen. And then
no resistance from the Bengals. They get down inside the
tent and then I say to my friends, there's fifty
three seconds left. I'm like, Bears need to start calling timeouts,
and they did. Credit to Ben Johnson. Isn't it nice

(07:53):
to have a smart coach out there? He saw you
need to call a timeout and he does.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, I wish my football team had a couple of those,
But it's nice, nice that you have an IQ.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Guy calls the time out, gets it. They score. Now
the handful of Bengals fans there are cheering, but there
aren't many. At this point are more Bears fans in
the stadium than my friend Hubby. He starts cheating. He's
a Bengals fan, Green Bay sucks at me. I looked around,
drew at the Bears fans in the crowd, and it's

(08:23):
the saddest group of people I've ever seen. I mean,
they had had their souls ripped out. This will be
the worst loss in history. But there's still forty seconds
left and the Bengals defense is the worst defense that
God has ever created on the planet. Seriously, it is
in the Book of Ezekiel named it one by one

(08:47):
in there, didn't it? Ye shall be disappointed by Trey
hendrickson Bears drive down and then the touchdown pass. I
counted six different players hit Loveland and nobody brought him,
just bowling ball off of them. Is that I, as

(09:10):
you know, have hurt back. I tried to jump, fell down, oh,
because my body was not ready to jump yet. I
can't think of a time in person that I've been
that excited in a long time. When he bounces off
all those people in scores, I was still worried they
left too much time on the clock. Then there was
twelve seconds to go. But what an amazing game.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah you're roller coaster, you thought it was wild. Just
when interceptions were getting called back and guys were getting
called down and you had so much more to go
at that point the level and touchdown. Even after all
the craziness, I thought we had seen enough and it
was over. Unlike you, I thought, ball game, there can't
be any more magic left in this And for him
to go almost sixty yards just straight down the middle

(09:54):
of the field too, with the secondary all around him.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Bouncing off people like a bowling ball on a pence.
It was crazy and as happy as you are. Have
you seen the Bengals interviews from the offense, No, they
are and just basically cussing what they say. Jase Brown
and Jamar Chase are both like, we're scoring, how can
we not stop someone like complimentary football. We get in,

(10:17):
we get the lead, you get a stop ball game.
They were that blank yes, with.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Expletives calling out the defense. So as happy as you
are the Bengals offense, which obviously had a great day
Flacco had a career day outside of those interceptions, they
are livid with the other side of the ball.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Last year, three out of fifty on side kicks were converted,
so only three six percent, And you mentioned it was
a wild game. Ben Johnson deserves a lot of credit.
Caleb Williams was catching passes.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
I mean Williams calling two passes. I'm going to talk
for a second about how bad I think the Bengals.
The Bengals coaches should all be fired. They should be
playing golf with you Freeze tomorrow. As a Bears fan,
I'm angry for the Bengals how bad they were. But
before I get to that, the creativity, yeah, was unbelievable.

(11:06):
Three of the Bear's touchdowns were on trick plays. Ben
Johnson is in his bag. DJ Moore threw one and
ran one, threw one and went ran one. Caleb Williams,
I mean Caleb Williams was basically a white out for
most of the game. We brought a running back that
I've never heard of onto the field from the practice squad.
What was his name?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Mon, gay Mon, and guy never seen that guy.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
In my life, honest Gay, Honestly, he was awesome and
and could not be stopped. Caleb was great, by the way.
He was great because the Bengals got pressure on him
the entire game, but he just his escapability. You could
see why why he was the first pick the way
he played today.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, and the Ben Johnson stuff. Especially, it's so fun.
They had a little flu flicker with Cole Comet. My
favorite stat is Caleb Williams has more receptions than Comet
in that game he had won and Williams had two.
We mentioned Dj Moore. He is just so creative and
fun to watch on top of going for two and
just the exciting stuff with it.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Well, let's let's talk about Zach Taylor, because there were
two plays that, in my opinion, should have been fireable
offenses the moment they happened. First of all, one of
those trick plays, the Bears bring on Tyler Bagit onto
the field and he's a wide receiver. Any coach worth

(12:27):
even a grain of salt would say, why is the
backup quarterback lining up at wide receiver where he's supposed
to stand, where the backup quarterback is in the game
at wide receiver. When I saw him, I'm an idiot
and I was in the crowd, and I said, that's
our backup quarterback. Well, he must be a decoy. They're

(12:48):
not going to throw him the ball and then do
a pass. And then they did, and it was like
the Bengals had never even considered it. When Tyler Bagent
got there. No one even but bothered to go. I
wonder what happened to Kayleb Williams. I could not believe
they fell for that. No one on the Bengals sideline
seemed to notice that the backup quarterback was in the
game at wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, that's the long list of complaints with Zach Taylor.
Bingles fans had fun when they first got Flacco, had
the Aaron Rodgers game, but the last two weeks have
them in absolute shambles over little things like that. Yeah,
I mean they're wasting a great offense. I mean, this offense,
even with Flaccos to borrow, has been spectacular.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
The last losses are hideous. They had some amazing catches
the Bengals widers Higgins Higgins, Hey, guys, some catches that
were just absolutely insane. And then, and I've watched a
lot of football, I've never seen this happen in my
entire life. They challenge a play where the Bears are
knocked out at the one to say that they thought

(13:47):
he fumbled it through the end zone, and the challenge
turns into a Bears touchdown. Is that not? Like? Is
that the most Bingles thing of all time. That's an
all time back. Then the points going the other way.
They did get their time out back, which actually ended
up being important. First of all, I don't think that

(14:09):
should be the rule if you challenge it and they
overturn the call, but they make it worse for you. Yeah,
you lost points. They let the time out back because
that time out ended up being big at the end
of the game.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Right.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Guess they're thinking it's bad enough for him, keep your
time out, But have you ever seen that before? Now
turn the ball they made that.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
It was worse for the Bengals after the challenge.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, that's one you'd like to take back. I can't
think of a time where it's backfired that bad. Maybe occasionally,
you know, called don't go your way, but to actually
give up a touchdown over throwing a challenge flag, that's bananas.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
So when the Bears did finally score again, no Bengals
fans left in the stadium. The Bears. It was like
a home game in Soldier Field, and I got to
see my very first in person Bears win. It was
you know, I'm a Kentucky sports fan. I like the

(15:03):
Cincinnati Reds, the Carolina Hurricanes in the Chicago Bears, and
I would say, except for eighty five, this might have
been my favorite Bears day. I'm serious, Like, what an
absurd game to watch in person.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I mean, you've named like ten things that are part
of a circus afternoon probably helps your out an away stadium,
but you took it. Always always best doing your Green
Bay thing in Bingle Stadium, So I get it. I'm
just shocked that your whole life, that was your first one.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I'd seen them. I've been to Soldier Field twice. We
lost both. I've seen them lose in Cincinnati, in Nashville,
in Indianapolis, in Pittsburgh, and maybe in Saint Louis against
the Rams when the Rams were there, and every time
they come around, I will try to go. And this

(15:51):
is the first time i've seen within.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Now they've won five of six. Are you I mean
you took a little dip last week looked ugly against Baltimore.
Now are we back in too belong?

Speaker 1 (16:00):
No, because they still have a lot of problems. Their
offensive line is not very good. The receivers are good,
although Romanz owned Doomsday continues to drop passes. I mean
he dropped the pass. It probably wins a game if
he catches it and he drops it there at the end.
So I am still a little bit worried about that,
but overall, you know, five and three, you can't be
that upset. Their schedule gets a little bit harder here.

(16:22):
They've got two. I think they play like the Giants
and somebody got a couple of easy games and then
they have every game till the end of the year.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Is hard after that, and there's something to be said
about just being fun. I mean, you want your team
to win, and you won today, but just the flea flickers,
your quarterback catching passes, stuff like that can can make
a team that's just middle of the pack still be
a lot.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Better for you.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
And the Bears won five of their last six games.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, would you fire Zach Taylor? Yes, I feel like
you should. I don't think they will, but he's awful
and he just sits there with that goofy grin on
his face like and.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
As someone whose team just had someone from his coaching tree,
I completely understand.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
I mean, they are well. First of all, they're the
first team since nineteen sixty six to score thirty eight
points in back to back games and lose them both. Yeah,
that's that's ugly. That's a bad statistic, and that visual
of Loveland just running right between the hash marks fifty
eight yards to win the game. If you're on the
Bengals defense, how do you like? How do you look

(17:22):
in the mirror? How do you accept your paycheck? Like?
You guys don't own me? This week? Not my best work. Yes,
that play that'll go down is when you think about
the way the Bengals have lost these last two games
against the Jets and now this one. I don't know
how many teams have had two worse, just demoralizing back

(17:42):
to back losses than those.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
And Flacco had almost five hundred yards.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, I mean you have you have a geriatric on
your team out there. He is taking his meta musil right,
He's got his AARP cards so that he could get
a discount on refreshments before the game, and he plays
that well, don't you owe it to him to at
least make a tackle.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
I don't know how the defense even get on a
plane or a bus or walk into the locker room
with that offense. Yeah, and maybe they're all out to
after the players. Their teammates custom out. In the press
conference today.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
It was also it would have been fitting for them
to win. You know that one of the Bengals legends
passed away this morning. Bob Trumpy, you might remember, like
for those of us of a certain age, is one
of the first broadcasters of games. I still as a kid,
you get along a lot of Don Krickey and Bob Trumpy.
They called four Super Bowls. Bob Trumpy was on four

(18:38):
Olympic Games, four Super Bowls. He was a Bengals player,
famous when he passed away this morning, so you thought,
like in his honor, they'd win the game. Instead, in
his honor, they say, you know what, let's do what
we do, which is blow.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
These games, and let's not just kind of lose it.
Let's really embarrass ourselves in it. Chris Collinsworth talked a
lot about him leading into the Sunday night game.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
He's a legend. He's a kind of forgotten part of
NFL history. But if I can tell you, if you
if you're a thirty five and you heard his voice,
you would remember it like he has Don Krickey, who
also had a very unique sounding voice. If you heard
their voices they worked together for years, you would remember

(19:18):
eighty years old he's in the Broadcasting Hall of Fame.
Big loss for the Bengals, both in life and then
on the field today. Yeah, so there you go. Did
you you all were texting me during the game. Do
you know how sad I would have been if they didn't.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Know a long drive back after a game like that?

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
It was weird because he wanted text after a big thing.
But it's like, well, two minutes left, little do we
know it was seven more things would happen before the game.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Ended, and then when it was over, celebrated at Skyline chili.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Oh, that's why you're smiling.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
So I can just say, let me just say this,
and I say this, would love the Bengals fans, y'all
are some gross eaters when you love. People had chili
like coming out of their nose, and they were leaving
it all on the tables just a little. They were
drinking Anna. It's a little grin right, it's a little gross.
I don't know if there are more gracious in winning,
but you're chilly etiquette, Drew is pretty gross. When you lose.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Kind of symbolizes how their fan base is feeling right now,
I think.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, so that was the big game for me, probably
for the rest of the world, it would have been

(20:32):
Bill's Chiefs. The Bills win twenty eight to twenty one.
Former Kentucky Wildcat Maxwell Harriston gets his first ever interception
in the NFL to seal the game. It was Josh
Allen's highest percentage completion in his career eighty eight percent.
It was Patrick mahomes lowest in his career forty four percent,

(20:54):
and yet the Chiefs had a chance driving to win
at the end, but weren't able to do it.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
I'm surprised by the drastic the description the numbers there,
with Mahomes having or excuse me, Alan having a rerect
your day and Mahomes playing so poorly, and then you
know they're selling it. You throw the pick to lose it.
But it just it's another one of those Bills get
you in the regular season. And I'm sure when we
get to the playoffs, Chiefs will be sitting there grinning because.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
What is this now?

Speaker 2 (21:18):
If the Bill's won five in a row, for the
Bill have not won one of the ones in the playoffs.
So it's just fitting the script that we've seen.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
So many times. Even Alan won the head to head
in this one. Yeah, what happens if because you know
this is all gonna lead maybe to a playoff game
again they have won. The Bills have won all five
regular season meetings. The Chiefs have won all four postseason
meeting What if that happens again? What if it's five
regular seat Because this game, it's gonna mean the Bills

(21:48):
will probably host it again. But we've seen that doesn't
really matter. No, what if they lose it again? It
almost makes the regular season wins worse, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
It's us because you're just it's you're toying with yourself.
You're tawning yourself. It's odd, though, because they've all come down.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
To the wire.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
It's not like the Bills and Allen specifically just come
out and the moments too big and they play bad.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
These playoff losses. They're in it.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
You would think one of these times the ball would
just bounce their way once. But so far zero and four,
and now that they've done the five and zero in
the regular season, I feel like we're heading for a
crash course with the AFC Championship in Buffalo and.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Mahomes is going to get him. It was one of
the rare. Mahomes kind of bad games. I mean he
really I know, the forty four percent is bad, but
he also just didn't really play well. He made some
bad decisions.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
He got hit a lot, I don't know the exact number,
a lot of pressure.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, I was. I was surprised because the Bill's defense
has been an issue all year and they seem to,
for whatever reason, have his number. But I do think
this will be a game that has no impact when
you get in now. I will note the Chiefs are
five and four. They've got to make sure they get
in the playoffs. I mean they should, but right now,
if the playoffs start today, they would not be in
it because they're tied with Jacksonville, and Jacksonville would have

(23:00):
the would have the time breaker right now because they
beat them. So as of today, the Chiefs wouldn't even
be in the playof And if Zenver can keep winning,
I mean they're gonna they could. We could be looking
at the Chiefs as a wild card team, but still
maybe even be a Super Bowl favorite by the time
they get to it. I think they are going to
be a while. I think the Chiefs are going to
have to play every game on the road. Now. I
think they've done that before, right, it won't be a problem.

(23:21):
I don't think that's a big issue. But I think
they're I think there's a good chance they are a wildcard.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
That's the first time Mahomes and Allen have met where
both teams weren't division leaders, so they could be both
playing on the road in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
This year, we had the rare moment. That's a good point.
I mean, the Buffalo's.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Behind New England, behind New England.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Now they still play them again, so they could they
could beat them.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
I think that could flip back, but New England's hot
right now. There was a rare moment. It was a
bad look for the people that think the NFL is
rigged for the Chiefs because Mahomes got absolutely screwed on
a intentional grounding calls like.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
A tip pass that was I mean, I don know
how you could call that. I don't know either, But
they couldn't review Its not a reviewable play. So help
me understand why that's the case. Why Why is that not?
Why is and no grounding not reviewable? It feels like
you could see it's not a judgment call, really.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Not really, and that one was so obvious, and it's
one of those even the announcers everyone involves.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Like, uh understood, help me understand why anything is not reviewed?
Like if it's all going to be a challenge flag,
why isn't everything reviewable? What? What? Why do we say
some mistakes are fine, but some of them aren't. I mean,
in the NBA, they'll even let you review a foul

(24:38):
in an important circumstance. Yeah, some judgment calls. I guess
you kind of understand. I mean, you couldn't review a
holding or something, really, but that's an extreme example. It
didn't hold. But if you if you start reviewing holdings,
that'd be every single But if you're only doing one,
like if you get one a game, presumably they won't
use it a lot. They'll use it once. That's true.

(25:01):
I mean, I I don't know. I don't understand the
idea that things are not reviewable. That's really made sense
to me. Well, on this one, what do you need
a replay?

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Everyone knew in the moment this is a horrible call.
He couldn't have been more center of the field in
the pocket and the ball was tipped and they called intentionally.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
There was also one really bad call in Bear's Bengals.
I don't know if you saw. It was early in
the game, which one Joe Flacco threw it I think
fourteen yards in the air, and they called it a
fumble and it went fourteen yards forward and they called
it a fumble, and then the Bengals were like, it went,

(25:39):
it had some power body. It remained a spiral for
fourteen years, and then when they showed it on replay,
it was clear it was a pass. I just kept
yelling it was a fumble because it was making the
Bengals fans around me mad. But it really was. But
that was maybe the worst call I've ever seen. They'd
got flipped on review, but it seemed like a really

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strange bad call.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
So this is when the Bengals fans were still there
before you all, this was the first half.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
This is that before all hell broke loose. Later in
that game, Steelers and the Colts. Dude the sort of
Cinderella the slipper falling off for the Colts. They lose
twenty seven to twenty. Early in the game, it looked
like it could be bad. Colts hung around six turnovers
for the Colts, and then this is the number Daniel

(26:27):
Jones with five. He only had four coming into the game,
and he gets five tonight.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, the Daniel Jones Sean got washed off at least
for a week. He looked a lot more like the
Daniel Jones we saw for many years in New York.
We have three interceptions, two fumbles. Even behind him, Jonathan
Taylor didn't play a very good game. He certainly didn't
get three touchdowns. I think he was held beneath fifty
yards rushing just to completely uncharacteristic, uncorrect, and I can't

(26:52):
talk uncharacteristic game for the Colts. I mean, they've been
one of the better teams of protecting the football this year,
and the Steelers defense just absolutely mobbed him, had all
the takeaways that comes after Steelers last two weeks defense
looked terrible, giving up thirty points to Cincinnati and Green Bay,
and then they just put it on Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
He is chalking up like one game, it is what
it is.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, I've I've been hesitant to say it as we've
heard it felt like the Daniel Jones magic. Each week
it kept going on.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
It's like, all right, this damn is gonna break.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Eventually, seems like it broke really hard against the defense
that was desperate to go out and play.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Well. My MVP odds get hurt, say so, but you
still want them. You might get some. Yeah, it's gonna
be odd. Now you get five turnovers in that game.
That's hard to that's hard to come back from. Steelers
get a win after losing last week, the Steelers fans
held a funeral outside the game before the game for

(27:50):
their defense. Explain you saw one was part of the funeral. Well,
because they've played so poorly the last two weeks. The
defense especially lost less lost the last two games. Telgate,
pretty decent sized Tilgate had a Steelers casket. People spoke
they an actual funeral for the defense, saying that the
defense had died. And then, of course the defense responds

(28:12):
with the six takeaways today and maybe their best game
of the year. Who are the Pallbears for the funeral
and the offense?

Speaker 2 (28:17):
I don't know, but I think if you're that Tailgate,
there is now a pressure to do it every week.
I mean, if the defense is gonna play like that,
oh multiple fear, I think you have to bring the
casket every home game now. If the defense is gonna
play that well, after you taunt them, you owe it
as a as a fan to continue to do that
because I believe there was some superstition involved. It's a
huge turnaround.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, well, it's probably the most fun funeral anyone's ever
been to. If you go to a funeral for a
defense and a tailgate, are you when you die, which
I hope doesn't happen anytime soon. Do you want a
fun funeral?

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah? Or do you want a sad fun fun funeral?
Okayhe because, don't be sad. I mean it'd be sad
for a moment, but let's have a party. Let's celebrate.
Maybe I don't need to be at an NFL tailgate.
Maybe if you all want to do whatever you want
to do, you all figure it out. Bes have the
most fun. We're actually going to go to a Steelers
tailgate team you don't even care I care about.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Just don't let me to rest near the Titans right now.
That will be the sad part.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
I'm the opposite. I want it to be very sad,
all black. I need for my funeral. I need like
people to cry. I need it to really hit people
like I don't. I don't understand what people are like,
I just want everybody to have a party. I don't.
I want this to be remembered as a day that

(29:37):
was bad. You can party the other days. For this day,
I want to see some tears. You just want people
to be miserable, and just for the record and from
the afterlife. I'm gonna just look at the three of you.
I'm gonna be seeing who's crying. I'm gonna afford I'll
take some hond drop which whoever's not crying. I'm gonna

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know how you feel. Are we doing this at a
bear's tailgate? No? No, I want it to be in
a somber church. Okay, dark.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
I want to rain it outside. There's gonna be no refreshments,
no sunshine. I think the worst day of the year,
I need it to be raining.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
You want us to remember the day of your funeral.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Of course, I mean people remember. I do want a
closed casket, no reason for you that. I don't want
your last view of me to be all purple. No,
we want a view of you on cover zero. It's beautiful,
it's exactly. I want this lighting we have right here
and this camera where I'm right in your face. Believe me,
we know this camera should be backed up. I have

(30:37):
no idea why this camera is so close, but no,
I want people to be sad, So.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
I don't want to make sure I'm said then if
I'm still around.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I wanted to. I want it to be a miserable experience.
I think I've told you I was on a plane
once where where John cal Perry and I the UK
basketball coach, were on a plane together, and we thought
the plane was going to go down. At least I
thought the plane was going to go down. I think
counted too, and I remember thinking, this is going to
be awful, ay, because I'm going to be dead. But

(31:07):
be no one's gonna care that I'm dead because he's dead.
You're gonna be the small fun in the news. I'm
not even gonna be. I'm not even gonna be in
the paper. Page two continue to say Caliperry, three others
dieing playing crack.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Or they could have named the other three, these three
people in one other.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, well I'm gonna be there's no doubt if he's
on the plane, I'm an other And so yeah, I
didn't like that at all.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Well, now that we know, we all would have been
very sad. If that happened, we would not have party done.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yes, please cry, please have lots of tears and feel
badly about.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
What's up with all these big life moments in the
NFL this season. I mean we had Brown Spider getting married.
Now we're having funerals as it just.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
When we gonna have a baby. Yeah, right there to tailgate.
It's the big, big life things going on in NFL. Taboure.
There's been people born in telor Oh. I bet it's happened.
I mean, just say, just by sheer numbers, somebody's given bird.
Are you saying it planned? Or they're there? Like kickoffs
in two hours? Is like Get the Midwife, honey, section

(32:14):
one seventeen. It's coming out.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
To meet us in the blue loot well at Chili.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
That's exactly right, honey, go to the concession so we
can cut the cord, exactly. Your first communion is a micheloboltry.
I don't know that that's gonna happen, but I do
think it's I bet, I bet it's happened. At some
point somebody may know. Man, I have to look into
the NFL research. Next to instats, that's right, Patriots meet

(32:39):
the Falcons twenty four to twenty three extra points being
missed and may this is a little theme today Falcons
miss an extra point. Uh. They ended up punting at
the end of the game, fourth and twenty with two
minutes and fifteen seconds left. They punt, They don't get
the ball back. Did you h what'd you think of
that call to punt on fourth and twenty and try

(33:00):
to get your defense to stop it.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I don't hinted that much because you're not picking up
that fourth and twenty. I mean I probably would have
done the same same thing. It didn't work in that spot,
but they weren't picking that up. It's good Drake London
had a good day. Maybe if they threw to him,
But other than that, I think you had to punt.
Just suck you didn't get another opportunity.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
What's more likely, though, get a fourth and twenty or
punt and stop them three times and then lose all
that field position and come. I mean, I feel like
I think I go for it. What do you got
to lose?

Speaker 3 (33:31):
It?

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Stood being twenty like a fourth and ten, fourth and twelve,
the twenty just that's so much to pick up, and
I guess I would surrender in that situation, I find
the Falcon unless I'm Pat Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
I didn't mention this.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
By the way, in the Chiefs game, they picked up
another fourth and seventeen late and now they did end
up winning, but the Chiefs did it again. There's never
been a better team at fourth and sixteen, fourth and
seventeen in the fourth quarter than picking that up. I
meant to add that talking earlier. But the Falcons don't
have that kind of magic.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
They don't. Michael Pennix is not able to do quite
the same thing. Drake May. They get the win, but
as with all Falcons games, impossible to predict. I mean,
comes right down to the end. I would say, I
haven't seen the odds, but my guess is, if you
look at the MVP odds, Drake May's probably second, now,
isn't it probably Josh Allen first, Drake May second? Is
that where we are? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:18):
He had another big games. That's six in a row
for them.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I think. So they start zero to two and now
I think they're six and two, and their schedules so easy.
I mean, they're gonna they have a legit shot at
the one seed just because their schedule, you know, I
think they still play the Jets twice. I mean, their
schedule is is simple. What are they and.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
We focus on Drake May playing so well. Their defense
hasn't had a fifty yard rusher against them all season.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Josh Allen plus one eighty, Mahomes plus three fifty, Drake
May plus four twenty five, and then Stafford is plus
five point fifty right now.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, I mean I think it's unlikely they pick a
second year guy. So unless Buffalo collapses, I think Josh
Allen will win it. But you know all they got
if Drake if you could make the argument, okay, Patriots
beat the Bills the second time, maybe maybe he gets
it right.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Oh, if he gets him a second time, I think
you have to. And you're just seeing a change around
Drake May and the Patriots. They're not the Chiefs, but
they're getting kind of cool. Like today, Robert Kraft and
Cardi B were sitting together. They kept showing her, so
you know, we're starting to get the celebrity Treatsment and
Tree miss not just Taylor anymore. We got Cardi B
being seen in the Patriots booth. Uh, they're starting to

(35:32):
get a little with his Cardi B date Stefan Diggs,
who had a big game today. He's starting to get
I supposed to know that they're the second biggest couple
in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
How long have they were?

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Sarah Russell Wilson unless you're tired of them?

Speaker 1 (35:42):
They about Haley Stanfield and Josh also a big couple.
Madison Beer, Justin Herbert.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yes, wow, these are cam Ward and how do we interceptions?

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Interceptions? How do we rank the celebrity couples? Obviously Travis
and Taylor are one. Who's two I'm gonna say Josh Allen,
Haley stand staffand's gonna get nominated for an oscar this year?

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, it's Cardi though, it's Cardi b Yeah, but what
makes her so great?

Speaker 1 (36:09):
All the songs?

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah, she's with child now too?

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Did you just use like a biblical she's with child term? Yeah,
the faun's child. She's with child. So they've dated a
long time enough to season enough to impregnate each other,
or at least by one of them got their love
move fest the love mofest. Think, what do you think
her and Bob Kraft talking about they were or died?

(36:33):
I didn't even know they were dating?

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, well, I think that that was just recently announced.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Okay, also it was it was an old love that
just became public, So I would put them third. And
then I think Russell and Sierra there's a time they'd
have been number one. I think it's just so so
long running, we've all moved on. I think they dropped
the four. And then I don't know what Madison Beard does,
so I'm gonna have to put her fifth because I'm
not sure what she does.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
I just know they went to the Dodgers game and
so with the Beavers soon and then there there's a
Cavender yeah and a yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah who else?

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Ah yeah, I'm thinking, hmm, it's kind.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Of funny, like it's only the big start, like you
never hear of like a backup offensive. Well no, no,
well he's not in the league anymore. I was gonna say,
Jason Kelsey and his wife are pretty famous now.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
But yeah, I'm trying to think that it's got to
be someone that was already a celebrity though we know
her because of her marriage to Jason, and.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
I see, okay, will come to us. On a different note.
I met today. I met Tony Pike, former University of
Cincinnati quarterback who I believe maybe had a was in
the NFL as a backup in a couple of places.
I met him today and got to talk to him
quite a bit. We should have him on the show.
He's actually very funny. He played college football with the
Kelsey's under Brian Kelly, so Jason Kelsey was his sinner

(37:55):
and Travis was his tight end. That's wild. And I
asked him, I said, are you gonna get invited to
wedd and he said, depends on how big the list is.
He like, I wouldn't be on the intimate list, but
if you got to the next tier maybe, I said, oh,
what would that be like? And he goes, I'm told Travis,
I have to sit next to ed Shearing. It's Sharon.

(38:19):
I like that. Tony Pike believes he's big enough that
he can demand the seat next to ed Sheer.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Do you think Ed Shearon is somewhere saying, you know,
when I get to that wedding, I hope Tony Pike
is at my table.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
It wouldn't be tough, though, If you were like Travis
Kelsey play on these all these football teams, you almost
have to invite all or nobody, right, Yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
If you invite, like you know, usually you got three
four tight ends on a team, you invite one of
them from that team, you know you're in the same.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Walker room with the same practice. Tony Pike was his quarterback,
so a tight end. And I feel like that's any
college stuck his hands under his brother's butt for years.
That's got to matter for something.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
He's got us sit with that year, and I mean,
who else could you put next to him?

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Well, it's just awesome. You try to pair people with
similar interest this year and Pike, could you have walk
in together?

Speaker 4 (39:08):
That would be Uh, that would be nice.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
I'm gonna meet the Textsteen fifteen. Uh. The thing that
this happened for me in this game is I remember
Davis Mills was in the league. Yep, that was a
guy I'd forgotten.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Great neck, great nick all Tom neck.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Great neck. Uh. He had to come in and play.
Houston got stopped at the goal line again.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
He had to come and play because Stroud almost lost
his neck. I didn't have to sliding defender hit him
as he was going down. The defender out actually didn't see,
I would assume so. But it was a bang bang
play I don't think there was intent, but it was.
It was a nasty hit on him. Clelly understood why
he had to go out big win for the Broncos.
I had a pretty big wager on the Texans. I
thought they were gonna win, but I assumed C. J.

(40:03):
Stroud would play before the winning k Gary Payton, not
Gary Payton.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Sean Payton, Sean Payton the glove. Oddly, Gary Payton yelled
at the kicker, and people are like, what are you
doing here? Gary Payton?

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Sounds like something he'd do.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Don't you have somewhere to be? Why are you here?
Who let you on the field? Uh? He yelled at
the kicker and said through the middle. Now, of course
there have been other coaches who say you don't talk
to the kicker. If you were a kicker, would you
want to hear from your coach, not hear from your coach?
What do you think is the better strategy for a
big kick? I've actually thought about this recently.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Kentucky was playing a game Texas and when he needed
a field goal, and I was watching the kicker on
the sideline and nobody was talking to him, and I
kind of had the conversation with people around me, and
I feel like.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
I would want to be that guy. I'd want to be.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Left alone pacing. If you want to come home, give
me a little pat, sure, but you know, I know
the objective here.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
There's not much you can say to me right now.
Left one, leave me one. And if I'm the coach,
I would probably just let him be. He knows what
he needs to do. I wouldn't want to be yelled at.
I'd be like, I'm trying stop. But I also wouldn't
want to be left alone because then I feel like
you're you're acknowledging how nerve wracking this is, with the

(41:18):
fact that you're not talking to me. You know, sometimes
like if you're in a relationship and like you're the
person you're dating doesn't call you for a while, you
assume the worst is wrong. I think i'd be like
that with the kickers, like they're not talking to me.
This must really be they must really think I'm gonna
miss this. So I'd want it to just be normal.
I'd want Billy to come up and be like, have

(41:39):
you seen the task? No? No, no, that's good.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
I don't want the coach coming up like all right, Bud,
see these two uprights. You're gonna need you to put
up a swim. No, I know what I'm supposed to
be doing. Pat me on the back, maybe a fistball,
maybe smack me in the back of a helmet to
get me fired up.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
But like, I don't need to put What if I
was like, all right, Drew, I'm gonna need you just
kick your leg back and then go through the ball,
which then that made you laugh.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Start you like start giving some tips, like, Hey, I
know you've been doing this whole life, but have you
thought about maybe taking eight steps back, really getting their
head really use the hips.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
I think that would be good.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Try to find one person in that crowd out there,
lock on them and take this.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Famous story in our team Kentucky basketball that there were
some big free throws once and Tubby Smith went up
to the guy right before he's gonna shoot these big
free throws Patrick Sparks to beat Louisville, and he said, so,
what are you doing for Thanksgiving? See? I like that icebreakers? Yeah,
don't talk about something else. Don't talk about what I
need to do. I know what I need to do.
I want working on this. Sean Payton yelled at the kicker,
he makes it, and then Broncos within fun Denver'.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Stat What's that They've trailed four times entering the fourth
quarter this year in one all four games. Look out
for Denver in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
That's a good time. Famous Giants game just a couple
weeks ago stands out on that. That's right. Jaguars beat
the Raiders thirty twenty nine and the score was nine
to six going in the fourth quarter, ends up thirty
to twenty nine. Did you like the Raiders going for two?
I did.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
I guess that earlier in the show. I'm all in
on going for the two.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Now.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
I know there's different circumstances should but you're at the
point if you're in the NFL, you should have a
play to go get two yards. If the circumstances say
go try it out. I'm off for it.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
And I thought the coaches both coaches were gutsy. I
mean the Jaguars got first ball, Yeah, they get down
three minutes, they go for it on fourth and one.
People were acting like that was a crazy gutsy call
by Liam. I actually think it was a smart claw call.
Let's go back to what we talked about last episode.
With Greg Olsen saying, if you don't get it, they
have the ball at the one, there's only three minutes left,

(43:41):
whereas if you kick it, they're going to already be
at the thirty at least. So I actually thought going
for that was smart. I love that they're not. It's
not you probably tie in college. In college, you might
not go for it because they get the ball at
the twenty five. But in the NFL, they have to
stay where the ball is, so I think it makes more.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
So, Yeah, you got to pend on the goal line
at that point, you're thinking, worst case scenario is a
tie in this game.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Uh, And I was fine with the Raiders going I mean,
it didn't work. You're the Raiders, but you're the Raiders.
You're what two and six or whatever?

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Go for Gino actually had a pretty good game, think
through four touchdowns to an incompletionent incompletion on the two
point tribe.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
But yeah, I go for it. Now.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
The real thing is, was anyone watching this game while
the Bills and Chiefs run. I turned it on for overtime,
but I forgot in the four or thirty time slot
that there were other football games being played because I
was locked into Mahomes Allen and then they're like, oh,
overtime in the Los Angles.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Shall sing the two markets where the local people might
watch them the least, Jacksonville, Las Vegas. We had history made.
There's a record setting case. Yeah, anyone the world did
not get to see Cam Chicken Little make a sixty
eight yard or to break the NFL record. I feel
like we just talked about this the other day. Used
to be we all knew Rick Dempsey in his club foot,

(44:55):
and we knew that he had made the kick. And
now someone named Cam Little is going to have the record.
Do you think at the end of the season, if
I asked NFL f who has the record for biggest kick,
they'll be able to remember Cam Little in January?

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Maybe he also kicked the seventy yarder in the preseason
that didn't count. I think that was the first seventy
yarder ever, so his name stuck out a little there.
I don't think he'll even have the record.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
When the season ends.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
I think Dan Bailey from Dallas is going to kick
a bomb before the year's over. He was a Aubrey
or do you say Dan Bailey?

Speaker 1 (45:27):
He said, Dan Bailey.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yeah, that's the former former Cowboys kicker Brandon Aubrey. Excuse me,
that was getting my legendary Cowboys kickers confused there.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
That was my ex's dad, just like I was talking
about him. What's he doing?

Speaker 2 (45:39):
I think he's gonna end up one to one up
him before the year's over. They're at Denver and they
set him up for one. He wasn't able to kick it,
but Cam Little, I've now watched him kick one from
seventy now one from sixty eight. The game has just
changed so much. I think it's just to keep getting
too far.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
It's the balls.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
I don't like it. Stop make him use the actual balls.
The game is more fun when it's more random. I
need guys kicking it far far to the right.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
You're not impressed by just the human feet of kicking it, well,
not if they're kicking basically, you know, rubber balls like spongeball,
like they to stay accurate. I know, but they've.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Clearly changed the ball like it's not the same, and
I don't like. I want it to go back. I
think football is better when there's more variants, and there's
not enough variance because the guys are too good.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
What if it's only in games like Jacksonville, where the
only exciting thing is when someone kicks a long field
goal because they're playing the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah, I mean I did forget this game was going on.
To be honest with you, I was at skyline. I
didn't really care.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
So the messy skyline from what we heard, so.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Dirty Bengals would clean up after yourself, leaving the cheese everywhere.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
It could have been the case in this one. Trevor
Lawrence said Skyline. He was pale as a ghost and
sleep He was sick, throwing up, stewing up, and played
big game.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Trayvon Walker, the former number one overall pick, punched a
guy in the helmet again.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
I don't understand that people loved the helmet punch. Has
that ever done anything? Now? Literally? That exists to keep people.
That's why it's there. That's why it's there. You know,
all the of all the things to do, it makes
the least sense, right.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
And you know, sometimes the guys won't show up, but
it hurts their hand. But they can't like react and
act like it hurt their hand. They have to act tough.
But you know, there's been a few times there's been
a punch stone on a helmet and.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Sure it happened. I'm sure that has happened. Vikings Beat
the Lines twenty seven, twenty four. I need you to
apologize to JJ McCarthy, please, Billy.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
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Speaker 3 (47:47):
A big fan of Tate Ratledge and the Lions, so
I thought it was going to be an easy victory.
But JJ McCarthy had a great first quarter, two touchdown
passes alone there looked good. It's got a great supporting cast,
good defense, but big win for Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
That's not a significant enough apology. You said he was
Your exact word was trash. Yeah it was.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
It was not the best take by me. I apologize
to JJ McCarthy. Wish him the best of luck.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Just take that one back in case he's listening right now.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Well, JJ, if anybody else would like bulletin board material
for their team, you can hit me up on cameo.
Billy r Sport.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
No, you're not paying you to talk trash. First of all,
why are you on cameo?

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Well, I mean people will pay for anything nowadays Matt's.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Have they paid for you? Who?

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Well, it was it was a couple of years ago.
My price was much lower back then.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
What's your price now?

Speaker 3 (48:41):
I think it's at twenty twenty or twenty five?

Speaker 1 (48:43):
What was your price back? It was like four or five?
It was five?

Speaker 3 (48:48):
I think, what would you do? I'm just happy to
be doing it.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
You know, what was it like only fans? You'd send
one picture for four dollars?

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Oh no, no, I can't get fast food for four
dollars anymore.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Actually, I would argue you're overpriced at twenty your bargain
it for. I think you're more like a seven thirty six.
Seven dollars and thirty six cents feels like the right price.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Verst is that before after they take their cut.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
It's funny cameo was so huge for a little while.
I don't think about it anymore, do you.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
No, there was a time where I thought it'd be
funny to get random celebrities and some love.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
That I did. I got a bunch William Hung, we
got that, I got, I got a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Some of those people have you know, made quite a
bit of money on.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Well, A guy that's always brought up as Kevin from
the Office. He made like a million dollars doing it.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, they'll throw a couple hundred bucks on that. Some
people that were on a big show years ago not
get much work, just sit around and throw off some
happy birthdays.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Wait, manut, I want to do I like to play
the game of can you guess how much this person's
going for? Okay on cameo? On cameo? Are you ready?
Always one of my favorite games. How much do you get?
Shooter McGavin, Oh, he's got an ego.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, I'm gonna say six hundred eight three eighty.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
I thought I'm with Billy.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
I thought he would have had a lot.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
I thought he would have gone high. What about newly
freed Congressman George Santos. Oh, God, by the way, he
cut his price in half since he got released from prison,
which is understandable because he's probably easier to get now
than he was then.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
I want to say something small, but I bet a
lot of people do this. I'll say one hundred and
twenty five.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Dollars, one hundred, one hundred and fifty dollars. I feel
like he could. We were talking about Kevin from the
Office how much is he.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
He's probably not too high or he wouldn't be that popular, right, Yeah,
it's got to be low enough that people will do it,
like one seventy five. That's exactly what I was going
to say. We're both going with one seventy five. Guess
two hundred. Okay, we haven't been too far off on
any of them.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Bruce buffer is not that's this is the other buffer. Yeah,
this is the younger brother. This is not this is
brother too.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
And he's not allowed to say the keywords.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
He can't say let's get rid to rumble. He can
say like, let's get ready to have.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
A round ball. That's what he said at Big Blue Madison, Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Let's get ready. What's the other buffer?

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Uh, Bruce buffer and Brian bread Bill's not bron It
starts with the beef Bill Bob.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Well, wait a minute, is Bruce not the main one?
There are other but now this is not the main
what's the other buffer? Michael with a bee, Well, Bruce
buffer is three hundred and fifty dollars. Wow, that's the
secondary buffer. Michael's probably not even on there, but he'd
have to, he'd be well, no, he charges Yeah, a

(51:44):
couple of great amount of money. All right, let's do uh,
I want to do one more?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Are there any NFL personalities on there?

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Ray Lewis are sports? Oh, ray Lewis, he's going to
be two hundred and two hundred, even, Bob, I'm gonna go.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Three hundred on this one.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Ray Lewis is three hundred and thirty dollars. LeVar Ball
never lost.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
I saw you recently lost the leg and he says
he can still be Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
I just love that he's still talking. I'm gonna say
LeVar Ball is one hundred and fifty dollars.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Oh, big ballers, they got to spend more than that
five hundred.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Wow, Well you could get you one thirty, all right,
two more. David Ortiz, big Poppy, Big Poppy is a
man with the people. He'll be cheaper. I'm gonna say
one hundred dollars one fifty, six hundred and fifty dollars
for David Ortiz. Wow, who's paying that?

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Nobody, respectfully, David Ortiz et nobody.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Think of the things you could.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Go out and buy someone with six hundred dollars. Or
here's a one minute video on your phone.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
All right, finally Bo Jackson.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Huh, I wouldn't have had Bo as a cameo guy.
He's been kind of low key.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
I'd love a cameo from Bo Jackson.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Yeah, I'll buy you one, billy, if it's under forty
five dollars.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Ain't I'll say Bo Jackson is two hundred two twenty five,
one hundred and fifty dollars for Bo Jackson. Can't get
that for you, billy. Sorry, So there you go, little
cameo information. So Vikings beat the Lines you was seven
to twenty four. Panthers upset the Packers for the second

(53:37):
year in a row. What a crazy what a crazy
result that the Panthers have beaten the Packers now two
years in a row. They win sixteen thirteen. Jordan Love
was awful, including a terrible fourth down throw towards the
end of the game. The Panthers, by the way, have
been an underdog in every game this year, and yet

(53:58):
here they sit five and four.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah, they're the second NFL team since nineteen seventy to
have a winning record being an underdog. And Bryce Young
missed a game, which is one of their losses. So
Bryce Young is a starter. Is five and three. I mean,
his stats are very rarely impressive. People are like debating
is he good or not? But he's got a lot
of coming from behind fourth quarter wins, and he had
a game winning drive today to set them up for

(54:20):
that field goal. So good for Bryce Young and the Panthers,
and good for mew Mix out there too. Y'all just
keep saying that you see.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
They're coming back. No they can't come back. No back
to celebrate the win meal Mix is returning. Then they're
gonna lose.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Not good for the season.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
They're winning Now Mixed because you left, they're coming back
the room. Now Mixed said they were gonna do it.
I like they wrote a reunion episode. They've been gone
for one month. It probably will get a ton of listens.
I'll tune in. Yes, a reunion episode. The meow Mix
people are back, So good for them. I think the

(54:57):
story for this game, though, is the way the Packers
were awful. Two turnovers in the red zone. That's that's terrible.
But even worse were the uniforms. Well, I think keep
doing that they wore they wore you don't like the
like old leatherhead helmets.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
I'm not normally mister uniform, where are your colors? I
actually like when teams mix it up. But we had
the Rogers reunion with the Packers just a week ago
and they wore goofy uniforms for what two of the
iconic looks in football, and then today I didn't even know.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
I took me a minute to figure out what team
was playing when I turned on the Packers wearing navy
and leather. Yeah, I didn't like it. I like the
leather helmet look. I kind of think that's cool, But
there are just a couple teams that probably shouldn't do
it a lot, and the Packers would be number one,
and they've now done it twice, and the steel like
you said, the Steelers did it last week, and so

(55:51):
it feels like, along with the Cowboys, those are the
three most iconic looks I don't. I mean, you can't
just have the Cowboys showing up with candy canes on them.
I mean, at some point you do have to have
some respect for what you're in. Boy, right, I believe
that's why the Packers lost.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
If you want to be a clown and go loose,
litte lost last week.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Yeah, y'all want to y'all want to put on your
clown uniforms, you'll get clown results.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
The Bucks and the Seahawks had a good uniform game,
and that's the first of all.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
I don't care what they do. They can come out
with like corsets on if they want. They're the Bucks
and the Seahawks. That's not tradition. Laced team.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Well, if you'd like when the Giants wore their kind
of nineties throwback today.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Yeah, but that's not just slightly changing. I mean this
is literally like both of those uniforms have looked like
a child vomited paint all over them. They weren't wearing
green or yellow team. Yeah, I just they're completely different.
And I just think of all the teams to do it,
those are the teams that should do it the least.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Oh no, I agree, especially just coming off when you
just did it. And this on a serious note, they
lost Tucker Craft today, which is huge. She's been playing
so well. Looks like an ACL So just a horrible
day for the Packers all the way around.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Loved and looked good.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
You lose a star tight end, you looked like idiots.
You lose the Panthers a bad showing.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
About the penalty. En Rico Downdell for the key and
peel dance.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
It is a little I'm not I'm not saying we
have to be Pg. Thirteen all the time, but it
had a little bit of a provocative Too many.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Thrusts for drew one. I think one thrust through Okay.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
I think if he had thrusted once, he could have
gone to the bench, nobody would have noticed.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
But the second thrust. You can't have two thrusts. Yeah,
this is a family family league, and.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
The skit it's three that gets them the penalty. So
he did two and got the penalty.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Yeah, do you think he was going to stop at three?

Speaker 3 (57:45):
I think if he didn't do three, he shouldn't have
got the penalty, just because.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
I didn't realize I've never seen the skit.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
So the skit, the whole Yeah, the whole thing is
waiting for the third pump and then he.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Oh, that's right, okay, I have seen it. Yeah. Well
he got two, and so I've bet in his mind
he thought, I'm not doing the third, I won't get
the penalty. But you have to remember you're dealing with
referees that are old people who they don't watch Key
and Peel unless it's on Hannity. They didn't see it. Well,
it mattered.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
They missed the extra point, and then Green Bay was able.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
To well, they ended up winning the game. He can
do it every once if he keeps running like that.
Though he had another huge game, It is time for
our weekly sadness known as the Tennessee Titans report drew.
They lose to the Chargers, keeping my survivor league. Then, oh,
sorry you had I had the Rams all right, so
we both remained in it. Uh, what do you got? Well, Matt,

(58:35):
big day for the Titans. We covered a point spread.
Let's all just do it this year, right, Yes?

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Yeah, the Cards won a game. Actually, now let's talk
about why that's funny. They went up early, went up twice.
They had a punt return touchdown and an interception return
touchdown interception return touchdown.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
First.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Uh, there was a stat let me find it. It's
I believe it's like they're only like the fifth team
ever to not win a game when they have a
punt return touchdown in an interception return touch down in
the same game. That's happened ninety times and eighty five
times the team wins. So even when we're making plays,
we still can't.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Get it done. But you won, we covered, we didn't win.
That's a win for me. We have a bye next week.
That's a win. That is the best week of the
seasons for the Titans. You could go do something. The
pub return was fun. Cam Ward's still not looking great.
It's just as a sign you are you giving up

(59:34):
by the end of the year, Will Levis back? You won?

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Oh, I'm ready to bring Kerry Collins back at this point.
Neil O'Donnell, bring them all back.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Zach Bettenberger, Nora O'Donnell.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
No.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
I still like cam Ward.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
I don't want him to go anywhere, but there's just
no help around him. Although we got some young receivers
that are flashing some talent on the Chargers end, Herbert
just continues to get killed. The Titans defense was wrecking
him and Joe Alt, one of his protectors, got injured again.
So even though the Chargers got to win, they are
gonna get.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Herbert killed at some point this year. He just continued
to get mauled. The Rams beat the Saints thirty four
to ten. I will admit I didn't see one millisecond
of this game, except I did see the highlight of
the no look pass. Are you a fan?

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
It blows my mind that Matthew Stafford does this. Mahomes two.
There are a couple others who've done it once or twice,
but they seem to do it consistently. He had another
big game, four touchdowns, something crazy. Devanta Adams I think
passed Tony Gonzalez for touchdowns, but he hit him one
time middle of the field, probably twenty yards down the field.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
But it's the no look.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
He's over here looking right and just zips it, hits
him right in the numbers and stride anyone in the NFL.
Great athlete, unbelievably talented. The no look passes that he
pulls off, it's witchcraft.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
To me. I do not understand how he's able to
do it. It is very impressive. It also, I think
often is unnecessary in terms of this. One was probably
one of those. Yeah, and it was in traffic. I
don't think they need to do it. That's cool, it
is cool, but at least they got it done. Forty
nine Shuck did not do a no look past or
four touchdowns. They're going, but neither of those guys are

(01:01:12):
going to play for him again. Forty nine Ers beat
the Giants thirty four to twenty four. Mac Jones had
his nosebleed moment running down his face. Yeah, it was
running down his face. Kept going, I'm Mac Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Kind of if you're like an old school football player,
kind of made you think of old time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Just old bloody Mack out there doing his thing. They
get the win, Mikhale Williams injured, they just keep I mean,
somebody's got to look it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
It's looking like a season ending too. I mean the
forty nine ers, and.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
That's two years in a row that the whole team
gets injured. Like on some level, I know it's random,
but like.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
And we just said, your starting quarterback has blood running
down his face while.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Throwybody's like, let old bloody Mack do his thing, That's what.
But they get the win. Jackson Dart four straight game
with a touchdown. Yeah they're running. It's a running touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Their problem is defense. They've given up thirty three or
more points in three straight games.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Yeah, Giants.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
They had some fun with Dark and Scataboo there for
a little bit, but I think it's going to be
back to losing that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
One, and then finally the Sunday night game, Seahawks beat
the Commanders. I think the final score ended up being
what thirty eight to ten. I stopped watching when it
was twenty one to nothing after they got the fumble recovery.
Is Jade Daniels, it's clearly sophomore slump. I mean, is
this like a C. J. Shroud situation. I know he's
been hurt, but still this was a poor performance. And

(01:02:30):
if it wasn't for the Bengals defense, I think the
Commander's defense might be the worst in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Yeah, Daniels, we thought he'd slump a little. Last year
just seemed too good to be true, and then this
year he's been banged up. I won't put any ruling
out on him. I think it's been unfair circumstances. But
on the other end, Sam Darnold was unbelievable in the
first half and he has been good. I know the
Vikings have enjoyed McCarthy today, but they've got to be
kicking them back.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
I mean, he was good as a backup in San Francisco, right,
which is how he got the Minnesota deal, which then
leads to this deal is it. Why did everybody just
assume because he was bad with the Jet, everyone's bad
with the Jets. Maybe maybe he's good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
And he went Jets Panthers, like two of the teams
where you shouldn't create anyone. He was a Jet then
a Panther. People just threw him away.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Baker was on that Panthers and No.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Two of the best both of them, maybe two of
the best quarterbacks in the NFC right now. But darnold,
they put up a graphic in the first half when
he was tearing it up. And he's top five in
most quarterback stats the last two seasons and you wouldn't
think of that, and the Vikings let that walk out
the door. But he's been great.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Well, yeah, a bad playoff game against but it's one game.
Yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
It was a great.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Regular season for him last year too.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
I mean, Lamars had bad playoff games, like it's okay, and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
You threw that away for a draft pick that's unproven,
like you saw what he did in your regular season.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Billy clearly hates and has already given up on, which
I think is route. So then yeah, so those are
our games today. Let's go over a couple of things.
First of all, the Survivor League, I had the Rams.
They won easily. You had the Chargers less easily, but
they won. Now we're both still in it. Now next week,
I think I go first.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Right, No, I go because you were deciding between the
Rams or the Chargers, and then you decay you go first.
I will go first.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Okay, that's gonna be a big advantage for you. Well, well,
first of all, who have you used?

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
I have used the Jags, the Cards, the Bills, the Colts,
the Chiefs, and the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
And who have I used?

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
You have used the Broncos, Baltimore, Detroit, Green Bay, New England,
and Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Right, Well, since you're going first, you can't pick the
team that I'm going to take. We'll just take them then,
So I'm just gonna take I'm just gonna go ahead
and tell you. I mean, we'll pick these the next show.
But I'm gonna go ahead and tell you I'm taking
the Bills against the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Oh, McDaniels, he's he's going to stay yeah the year. Yeah,
I said that he's going to finish the year.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
So I'm not the biggest points spread thought.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
It's the Broncos. Raiders, But I don't like that when
the Raiders could win that game. Besides the however, besides
the game with the Bills Dolphins, these spreads are all
very small. They're all like three and a half, four
and a half. This is gonna be a hard choice
for you. I'm sitting here looking at these. None of
these in my opinion, Billy, I don't know what you think.

(01:05:23):
None of these next week are obvious a lot of
teams that are very similarly matched. The fact that I
have the Bills is really good for me because these
other ones I actually think are quite hard.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
And you can't just fade the Titans they're off.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Yes, and the Browns play the Jets, so that's two
bad teams playing each other. Yeah, and Saints play the Panthers.
Do you want to believe in the Panthers as your team?
And then the rest of the teams are kind of even?

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Yeah, you want to stay away from divisional matchups, so
that Denver, Las Vegas and then Carolina New Orleans is scary.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
You don't have to pick to Wednesday. But where are
you leaning on this next week?

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
I mean, I really like Bryce Young and what he's
been doing so that's definitely in my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
But you're thinking about taking the Panthers in the Survivor League.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
I actually think Seattle has a favorable matchup at home
versus Arizona here too.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Arizona plays tomorrow night, short game to her short wrist.
Gotta go, yeah, Sam, No, that's probably the one. That's
probably a good pick.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
But the fact you and I are still going yeah
either way, I'd hate to be the guy that's already
out of the lead.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
You know you're looking at this wrong. I get to
sit here and just there's no pressure. I just watched
you all. It's like I'm a spectator, just enjoying the show.
I don't have to think about these tough decisions.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
It's big money coming down the stretch here. What happened
with the quarterback thing? I got mine right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Yeah, Josh Allen of rushing another rushing touch?

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
I now I have four.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
I did not Little lad McConkie didn't score for the Chargers,
so I saw three three, and then Jamiir Gibbs did
not score for the Lions, so Drew remains at one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
I think Dan Campbell has had it out for me today.
How does Gibbs have like twenty yards. Well, what are
we doing in a lost see it you only had
twenty five yards.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Yeah, it was healthy too. Wasn't like an injury situation.
That's probably because I picked him.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Well, I enjoyed the week. I really enjoyed that Bears win.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Congratulations on your first win as a fan.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Well, I mean I've seen them wins on television, but yes,
it was the first time I saw them as a
fan and it was a lot of fun. And let
me tell you what I like about it. On the
way out of the stadium. You don't how many high
fives that gave to strangers. Oh yeah, that's the best part.
The high strangers as you walk out of a road stadium. Call.

(01:07:36):
That's a lot of fun with everybody going bear down.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
You know, that's one of the best parts in sports,
even if you haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Won the game.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Leading into the game, being the way team you might
see somebode in the lobby, you just give each other
a little point or a little high five. It's that
it's that bond you're going to ward gets together on
ford soil.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
You got the win. That was so that was a
really really neat thing and I enjoyed it so an
awesome day, and thank you all for listening to Week nine.
Remember we're coming to Buffalo in two weeks, so we
welcome all Buffalo suggestions because we are headed there in
two weeks for Bucks Bills. But until Wednesday, we'll see

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