NFL Cover Zero: The Playoff Hunt Begins!

Matt Jones and Drew Franklin start their Week 12 preview with a newly found fandom for the Bills.  Matt notes the Eagles and Cowboys wins before moving to the news of the week.  Ja'Marr Chase will sit out a game after spitting on Jalen Ramsey.  How can Aaron Rodgers handle playing with a fractured wrist? 

Shedeur Sanders will get the start on Sunday when the Browns visit the Raiders. Will it be a good or a bad outing? Kirk Cousins will start for the Falcons, who lost Michael Penix Jr. for the season.  Does the coin flip decide if the Panthers win or lose? Cam Skattebo goes to a WWE event and Matt wonders if was a good idea.  

Josh Allen will obliterate the record for rushing TDs for a QB.  How long will Allen continue to run like he does? The Chiefs are currently out of the playoffs and Matt wonders if they'll make it to the postseason. Over in the NFC, can the Bears win the NFC North?  The Saints will expand the NFL's International footprint with a game in Paris.  Matt and Drew give their picks for Week 12 before giving their Survivor and TD parlays. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is
a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. It is
Week twelve NFL Cover zero, returned from Buffalo and ready

(00:26):
for yet another week. We are about to hit the
two thirds mark of the season. The playoff hunt is
starting to materialize, and it is a gloomy day where
we are in Kentucky, but hopefully wherever you are around
the country, it is a happy time. Drew still wearing
his Bill's Mafia hat. I think it's starting to get

(00:50):
a little I don't know. It feels like you're kind
of cheating on the Titans. And at some point, I
think she's gonna make you decide, like you're either out
of the house and go live with your new girlfriend
or you're gonna have to make a decision. You're right,
I'm struggling with it.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
But right now the house that I'm trying to stay
in is on fire, so it's kind of hard to
stay in my house right now. But yeah, I'm still
I'm you all been with me since we got back.
I haven't stopped smiling from that trip, and it's yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Mean, it's the kind of thing that happens when somebody
you know has a new girlfriend. But is she gonna
be there for you? To quote Chris Rock, Is she
gonna be there for you when it gets cold? Can
she cook? Can she do all the things for you
that the Titans used to do. Part of me wonders
if those bedpan meatballs are always gonna be there or
do I just get caught up in the excitement of

(01:41):
being there once? Yeah, well you definitely got caught up
in the excitement. That's fair now whether or not it's
it's staying. We had a great time though, and thanks
to everybody huge amount of listeners one of our most
listened to episodes. People keep telling your friends, your family,
or strangers about NFL Cover zero and shout out to

(02:01):
our social media guy Mario for all he put out
and to Billy for providing good entertainment. Dick Van Dyke
turns one hundred years old tomorrow in honor of your feet. Yeah,
look good, feel good.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
We were dressing for success in Buffalo and had a
great time going to the tailgates with Drew and then
postgame interviews with you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
So before we go on, can we note Billy bought
an NFL logo hat.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
He's now just an NFL share that's new. He robbed me,
you're Rob Low. I'm not going to say anything to you,
but but I am. When you when you got online,
you were asking me if clothing looked good, and it
was NFL clothing. It was like the NFL hat. It
was an NFL shirt and you were like, do these
how do these colors look? I was like, they look good.

(02:53):
I was under the mistaken assumption though you were going
to then put a team logo on it. I did
not assume that you would just go with the NFL logo.
And then I looked to the rest of your clothing,
like you wear Apple hats, you wear Burger King hats,
like you're of Toyota sweater. You're kind of a corporate man.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I guess I'm a man behind the shield right now.
Got to support the logo here. I do like that hat,
but I mean, you don't see a light.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
It's just you and and Rob Low are the only
people I've ever seen wear an NFL hat. Yeah, I'm
here to carry that flag so me and Rob well
could well it fits in with your Dick Van Dyke shoes.
It was interesting our contact at the NFL wrote and
specifically took up for your shoes, so there might be
an there might be a place for you if this
whole entertainment thing doesn't work out in the NFL head office. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
I think that's just real recognizing reel there and excited
to keep up the attire next time we go on
a trip.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
The real recognizing reel. That's exactly right. Do you have
any Have you learned anything about Dick Van Dyke since
since our last No? All right, well, one hundred years
old tomorrow, so happy birthday. Dicky has a book coming out,
Oh nice, like how to Live to be one hundred,
So you just got to get to tomorrow. Yeah, the

(04:11):
book will not sell well if he doesn't get to
so like you have to wrap him and protect a
bubble between now and tomorrow. Right.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
I actually saw you know, because he's a comedian. He joked,
He's like, wouldn't be funny if I didn't make it
to the book RelA, He let know I was one
hundredth birthday, he like, he openly joked about.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Because there's so much around. I think it would be
it would be sad, but also kind of funny if
he did it like he has a book coming out
about longevity, and he doesn't make it to the book release,
but I think he's gonna make it. I think you
will too. Yeah. Uh And and I hope his career
continues to research because he seems like a nice fell
what a great run. All right, So we always like

(04:48):
to talk about what happened since our last show. We
did the Sunday podcast in Buffalo before Eagles lines. It
was an atrocious game that that I couldn't even pay
attention to. I tried. The Eagles continue to bore everyone
to tears but win, sort of like Iowa football over

(05:09):
the years Wisconsin basketball. Would you like to be a
fan of a team that wins but is just hideously
boring to watch? No? And I actually was gonna bring
up Iowa football for comparison. You just did it.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
That's what that game reminded me of. Those were two
marquee opponents, a game I was really looking forward to watching.
And what was it like sixteen to nine?

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, and it wasn't even as exciting as that, No,
And I was like six to three.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
One takeaway is you know we earlier we were talking
about are the Eagles running too much?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Did you get aj Brown on the ball? What's there? Identity?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
They do seem like they're just a defensive team. Now
they've flipped a switch on the defense. It's always been good,
but they're really shutting teams down. So obviously that was
part of the style. While I was boring, that was
a big win for the Eagles to play the Lions
like that. Now the Lions are kind of backed up
against the wall.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, I wish I had thoughts about it. I just didn't.
And then the same thing with the Monday night football game.
I mean, I you know, I'm a fan of the
Manning cast, and I was a little busy Monday, so
earned the game on and it was thirty one to
nine Cowboys and Guy Fieri was on the Maning cast,
and I don't like Guy Fieri and I don't like

(06:17):
games that are thirty one to nine. So I didn't
see one minute of it. You are a Cowboys Fay
your wife is, so you probably watched it. Anything I
need to know.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, the big story a Pickings and Lamb had huge games.
Picking specifically, he's been amazing. That might go down as
the worst trade ever. Cowboys completely made out good on that.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
You would think that would get a lot more attention
being the Cowboys, But I guess it shows that when
you're four, five and one, people just won't follow it
as much.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
What game do you think they were playing? Hopefully it
was a game, maybe not a nightclub. You know, I've
been out there. Sometimes you can leave a nightclub and
the suns up. It really throws you off. I don't
know what they were doing, but it was weird seeing
the Cowboys in a big game like that and those
two on the sideline for the first series looking on.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, well, but it didn't seem to matter. Cowgoo Is
that a game? Packed? Pickow PIKEU did I make my pi? Gal?
I thought they were playing that. I don't know how
to play that. I know that, like that's a big
game in Asia. People really like to play that. The
Blaggio has War. It's unbelievable. I played. It's what's war?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
You just flip over a card and higher card. I mean,
it's just it's so fast you and the dealer flip
over a card.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
It's you just flip over a card.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, oh I got a nine, you got an ace?
I lose stood against the whole bitches. They haven't advantage
of that. I think the advantage is on a tie.
I believe that's it, because you know, the house has
to have a little advantage.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
But maybe they were doing that. Is that just to
attract the stupidest people like amy If you can't understand
even if you can't even understand black jack, hey, look,
hat's higher than five.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
That's a game I played on like church trips on
a bus growing up. I didn't know that you could
go to one of the nicer resorts in Vegas and
play it, but I saw it there a couple of
years ago.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I had no idea how they were doing that. We
I went to a casino recently and there was a
game and they were like, here, play this because it
was only a five dollars limit, and my friends didn't
want to play higher than that, and we realized that
we didn't know the rules of the game. I don't
recommend that. I don't recommend playing a game where you
have to ask the dealer did we win? I mean,

(08:15):
I don't think they're cheating, but it's not a good
feeling to go, Okay, how'd that work out for me?
It's probably not the best way to invest your money
if you don't even know what you're playing. Yeah, but well,
I'm glad Pickens and Lamb they ended up both scoring touchdowns. Right,
he had both of me even after not being their start.
So we might as well go through the stories and

(08:36):
the news of the week, and as always, we bring
in Billy Van Dyke to get started. Billy, what's first?

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, let's start with another wide receiver, Jamar Chase. His
suspension was upheld after spitting on Jalen Ramsey last week.
He will miss the game versus the Patriots this week.
When he tried to appeal, his argument was, if I
would have spit on him, I would have spit on
him in his face, not on his jersey.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Jamar will lose five hundred and seven thousand dollars in
lost wages.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
So his argument was I don't miss when I spit.
It was I would spit in your face if I
was going to spit on you. So what is he
arguing came out of his mouth? I don't know, he says.
And we saw that, we saw saliva come out of
his mouth. I don't think that's controversial.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
There's no mistaking that even you like you see him
kind of swish it, and you know, you see his
lips come together and spit it.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
You saw him sitten and then you even you even see.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Like Ramsey kind of make the turn that you would
make if you someone spit on you, Like you see
his reaction.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
So you think he actually did hit his face?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
No, no, it lands short, but he can't deny that
he spit you like, watch his mouth that Ramsey flopped
on the spit because if it hit his chest, he
shouldn't have jerked back. It did look like it s
hit his chest regardles shouldn't spit on someone by a
chase doubling down, say you didn't do it when we've
all seen it. The camera angle gets it perfectly. I
think this is really bad for his brand. You did yeah,

(10:00):
when you're just blatantly lying like do we see it?
And then I know he's seen it and he's still
doubling down. He he should have just said, you know, caught
it in the moment, should have done it well.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
So it's now, I mean we have the president has
been set now in multiple games. If you spit on
someone one game suspension, do you feel like that's the
right amount of time for a rogue spitter, I do.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
It's pretty disrespectful to do that. You can't have people
going around spitting. I liked what Mike Tomlin said.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Did you see that?

Speaker 2 (10:26):
They asked him and what he thought about Ramsey punching him,
and he said, I have no message. If someone spits on,
you do whatever feels natural.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah. I think we've had this conversation on other forums
about why people feel spitting is so disrespectful. I would
much rather be spit on than punched, But it seems
like most people think the opposite. They would rather you
punch them than I mean, a spit doesn't hurt. I
can wipe it off. A punch can hurt. But yet
most people see it the other way around.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, and then for Tomlin in a press commerce to
be like, you know what, I got Ramsey's back whatever
he felt he needed to do, and that circumstances, all
rules are off.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I do you agree with him? Kind of?

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I mean, it's more for me, not Ramsey's reaction. It's Chase,
what are you doing? Still to the respect, Yeah, you
should have done it, especially when the first game of
the NFL season a guy gets ejected for doing that
exact thing. It's a pretty big story. And then you're
doing it and denying it when everyone knows you did it.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, and if the Mingos were in a playoff hunt,
that would be bad. Five hundred thousand dollars, I mean
we we sort of say that like it's nothing. That's
a half million dollars that he's missing for spit. Sometimes
it's funny people will say, oh, the NFL players don't care.
They don't. They'll say that about athletes. If you're wanting

(11:37):
to give up five hundred thousand dollars to spit, I
would argue, you care quite a bit, right.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, And Billy, didn't you say the number was five
hundred and seven thousand. The seven thousand, I almost need
an explanation for, Well, no, no, it's it's a game.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
I didn't know if we had I didn't know if
we had a fee on spitting extra seven thousand. That's
a five hundred thousand dollars spit plus seven. Because it
was agreedious.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Field that one, even though he was, even though he's
stupid rich, he'll fill that one a little bit.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Well, I think that makes perfect sense. It's what they
it's what they should have done. And you know, I
guess what while we're on the Steelers, you want to
do Aaron Rodgers here? I assume that's one of your stories.
Yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
We can stay there. Aaron Rodgers doesn't need surgery on
his left wrists. He has not yet been ruled out
of Sunday's game versus the Bears, So I guess disaster
averted for Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, but he's going to have a broken wrist. Have
you ever had a broken wrist? I think I currently
have one. I've been meaning to go get.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
It checked out for a while. What do you mean
you currently that was bad? My whole arm was was brewed.
My whole arm was purple. I should go get it.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
When was this? I did it about year ago and
I just haven't got it checked out. I don't think
you have it broken. I've had a broken wrist and
you know it like it's not oh that could be broken.
It's broken and it hurts, which is how I don't
know how he's gonna play. Well, it's Aaron Rodgers. He's
a health expert.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
He's been taking good care of his body for all
these years.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
If we're not dealing with a the normal specimen here.
Know what he's done his own research, he knows. That's
a great point. I don't know who am I to
say that modern medicine applies to him. He was awful
last week, like truly awful, and he's been awful now

(13:23):
for a couple of weeks. Are you? Are you kind
of of the opinion that maybe the ayahuasca has worn
off and sort of that it's now. I mean there's
some people say, maybe you go with me at least
with Mason Rudolph, you know, you get some consistency.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, and part of me, you know, we all know
how old he is. He had a great start, you know,
old people. He's just old man. The season's long. He
had a great first few weeks and then Tom caught
up to him.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I mean that could be real, yeah right, I mean
old people. I know, for me, I ain't as good
as I once was, but I could be good for
like six games, but then after that, you know, so
I don't think that's it. It's unreasonable. I'm fascinated by
Mason Rudolph. That man has been Pittsburgh's backup quarterback since

(14:11):
Terry Bradshaw play and they keep bringing in new guys,
but they can't get rid of him.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
He was a Titan last year and we gave him back.
He stepped away for one.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Year, even more to the point, even more to the point,
he just keeps coming back. Like Mason Rudolph is like,
it's like a girlfriend. It's you just can't quit her.
You've got to keep bringing her back in your life.
And they and he is. He is. Probably I would
be fascinated to see how many quarterbacks he has replaced

(14:43):
in his Pittsburgh career, going back to Roethlisberg. I think
he's probably replaced five or six quarterbacks through the course
of his career.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, he got drafted, he was probably there was that
six seven years ago he got drafted.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
I know he he did. That's it. It feels.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Nineteens before twenty twenty for sure. Yeah, when he went
to the Titans, I kind of thought, what are we
doing taking this scal in no future a year and
then the Steelers picked him right back up. And now
he's going to probably be playing a big game against
your Bears. And he didn't look terrible when he got
in there. I feel like he's always been solid. Well,
give me some make his numbers.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Were pretty good when he come into the twenty eighteen
third round pick seventy six overall.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Went to Oklahoma State before that.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
I remember that, and was his Pittsburgh Steeler Tennessee Titan
for one year and now back with the Steelers.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
How many games has he started? I don't have his
starter here. Okay, let's see. I mean Pittsburgh does this.
I feel like Charlie Batch was there for a long time.
Call and then the same thing with Mason Rudolph. I
think when you get that job as backup quarterback for
the Steelers, you're a lifer.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, he played a lot for the Titans last year.
I thought in the in the last game he came in,
his numbers were pretty good through a touchdown. I think
his completion percentage was pretty good. But I think they're
gonna get used to having to see that.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
As a Bears fan, I want I want Anon Rodgers
to play because we need to. You know, he well,
he takes extra pride in beating us like he is.
He is an absolute jerk when it comes to well everything,
but specifically when it comes to the Bears, and so
I don't want to beat them and him not be

(16:23):
there because then he'll say we'll see So I actually
actually want him to. Didn't you win like thirteen straight?

Speaker 2 (16:28):
There's some crazy stat of how many times he beat
the bears, so he's thirteen yead like some wild in
his head. He thinks he has ownership, even if it
is a different uniform. Do you believe he's married Aaron Rodgers? Yeah,
because there's this.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Whole thing about they don't know if his wife is real,
because he's never said the person's name and they've never
been seen, and he doesn't wear a wedding ring.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Well, he's been open about taking some hallucingenics, and you
think he hallucinated a wife.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I mean if anyone, anyone in the league would I
don't know that. That's interesting position. You don't think he's lying.
You think he believes he has a Yeah, I mean
it's Aaron Rodgers. He's got any kinds of beliefs that
I don't believe interesting could be an AI wife. Yeah,
that's a great that's I have to tell you. That's
something I hadn't even considered the fact that he does

(17:16):
not have a wife but thinks he does. What what
what is the basis for he doesn't have a wife.
There's like a whole conspiracy theory thing, right, not that
I know specifically, it's just that he has I'm not
making this up.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
A bunch of the Steelers wives said, like, we want
to meet her. I guess she's not around.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Also like it's yeah, I've been through that, though I
know what Aaron's talking about. You date somebody, like when
you're gonna bring her? I think, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
I don't know if you'd like her a lot of
pressure meeting the friends. That would be, by the way,
that's is that good? That'd be a sequel to the
Hunting Wives the Steelers wives. I hope the same stuff happens.
Have you seen honey wise.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
I'm familiar with it my wife, No, I haven't, actually,
but I've heard how crazy it is. No, it's like
like it's wild, Like I wouldn't let more watch it.
He's too innocent, too young, And I would say, he's
you know, he's what twenty five, he's too young to
see it. That's it. That's how bad it is. But
it's good, but in a bad way. I'll check that

(18:18):
out next time we get a thirteen to six game.
We're not interested in yeah, all right, So Aaron Rodgers
likely to uh did they say likely to play or
just not having searched. He said today he's going to
give it a go, going to give it a go
because it's the Bears. It's not the Bears, doesn't I
don't want to hear you when we beat a mayor
and say, I want to hear you say we're breaking

(18:42):
the street, because we are this week. I believe in
your Bears.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I mean, they've been hot. They got a bad loss,
but they had that offense has been a lot of
fun to watch. And John said it earlier in the week,
that's my coach of the year.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
He just said, you needed Navidio earnings. They just came out.
Apparently they were good. Doesn't make sense that they could
be good and it could go down. Nothing that seriously
could happen. Damn right, what's next?

Speaker 3 (19:18):
One more news note out of the AFC North, the
Cleveland Browns announced that Shadur Sanders will start on Sunday
versus the Raiders. He was four of sixteen for forty
seven yards and an interception in his debut game last week,
and during the game his house was broken into, in
which he lost over two hundred thousand dollars in things.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
But Shadur Sanders will start on Sunday this whole. I mean,
what do you do about people breaking in your house
when you're playing.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
It's crazy that they've targeted athletes, no one, they're busy,
But I mean.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I can see why they do. They're on my TV.
I know they're No, you're not home, you are currently
in Las Vegas. You know, my mom used to always
do that. She still does it, Like my mom doesn't
want me to say on the radio. When she and
Larry go somewhere, she'll be like, we're going to We're
going to see the Gathers seeing you know, the Gaithers.

(20:09):
They're like a gospel We're gonna go see the Gathers
in Asheville. Don't say that on the radio. And to
be fair, that's the topic that I'm gonna lead a
lot of shows with. My mom went to see the Gathers.
Let's rank their songs under his feet. That's the mccamis anyway.

(20:31):
But but she's always worried that people are gonna break
into the house because they know she's gone. And I've
always found that to be ridiculous. But that's now happening
in the NFL. Yeah, I mean, what can you do
about it? I mean, you just have to pay more
for security, But you shouldn't have to amp your security
up just because you're going to do your job. Yeah,
you would think, do you think? Uh? I mean could
the league do? I mean, I guess there's not every

(20:52):
single player's house. Yeah, I guess they're just gonna have
to do. What do you think about the chador truthers?
So there are there are people out there who are
saying Chadeur they didn't let him. Well, I'll start with this.
Stefanski said they gave him no first team reps going
into the week and he was the backup. Is that weird?

(21:16):
I mean maybe you should have been. No, I don't
think it's that weird. It's a little weird, though, Like
I heard somebody on television say that most teams give
the second string guy at least a few reps. Is
it weird they didn't give Shador any.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
I just feel like they've never believed in from the beginning,
they were sound like a truther because there are people
who are saying, but the truther says, do not want
him to succeed.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
No.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
No, I'm saying they haven't give him chance because they
know he's not good. I'm not saying he's been held
back and he deserves better. I think they got him
in camp and we're like, oh boy, this is way behind,
and just haven't felt the need to push him up
the jet start to give him more chances. I'm not
the truthers that are like, oh, he's great, but they're
holding him back. I just think they know what they
have and don't have any confidence in him.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
One more thing about Sanders. His quote about his house
was interesting. He said, too many people are texting.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Me, are you okay? Yes, I'm fine. I didn't get
robbed my house, did well. I mean that's just see.
I think he's just trying to make sure everybody's all right, right.
I mean that's a natural inclination though, for people that
they hear something, are you okay? Yeah? Right. So I
don't find that. I would say, technically, here, do you
think he will play who they played this week? They

(22:22):
played the Raiders, so this is a good chance. It's
also the team he kind of thought he was going
to early in the draft process. There's a lot of
time I did hear somebody say he'll want to beat
them because they passed over him. But isn't that true
of every team? Uh?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
But the Giant pass over five times early in the
process when he thought he might be in that top tier.
The Giants and Raiders were two teams he seemed to
really be interested in going to. And then we out
and know how that played out.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
So go on record, good game for Shador, bad game
for Shador coming.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I'm not a suer hater. I wish him the best.
It's a bad game incoming. Sorry, I'd love to be surprised.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Well, then I'm gonna take that. I'm gonna be a truther. Okay,
I'm gonna say Stefanski, he has no choice but to
give him team reps. I will say, if they give
all the reps to the second team guy this week,
that would be a bad sign. I think he goes
some place, all right. I think he's getting the perfect
team for it. They do stink, they stink. It'll be
a late game, probably a Chris Myers or you know,

(23:22):
Adam arch Aletta game. They were just on Monday night
short rest. Dak lit them up. That's exactly right. I
think he plays well, and then I think there are
people who will say, see, he should be playing, and
they will be wrong.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
But I think he has a good game. Well, I
would love to see it be a game. I don't
want to come off as a hater. I just don't
have much faith in him. I'm not sure it's good
for the Browns though. For him to be good, they
need to pick another quarterback probably, and it would show
if he really is good. Why why did you have
him in the back of the room for the games? Okay,
he's been perfectly fine. I mean he's not doing anything
great and stink. He's just getting by like a rookie should.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
So well, we'll see. It is a shame though that,
like clearly players like to mock him. I mean every
time they would stop him, they would do his little watch,
his little watch like that. That's not going anywhere. That's
going to keep having. What's next.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Two pieces of news out of the NFC South. First,
Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Pennix is now out for the season.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
He wor Kirk Cousins for your money, trying to get
your money up, Kirk. He had a knee injury.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
He's gonna require surgery, So Michael Pennix is out, Kirk
Cousins starting against the Saints this week, and the Carolina
Panthers a big week for Bryce Young, who had a
career passing day franchise record in passing yards.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
The Panthers are six and oh when they win the
coin toss this year in zero to five when they
lose the toss. Oh, that's interesting. Well wait a minute, Okay,
those are two. I don't know why you connected those. Yeah,
you slid right into that fact. You went from Michael
Pennox's out for the year to coin toss and let's
go south, NFC South. Okay, well, let's at least start
with Pinnix. It's bad news for the Falcons because again

(24:54):
they have another situation where you need to figure it
out if that guy's good in his second year, and
they're not gonna know, so they're gonna have to probably
bring him back to start for the third year. And
I don't know if they know if he's good or not.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Right, Yeah, and if he's out, you know, whether they're
like three and seven, probably gonna finish the bottom of division.
You're gonna be in a great spot for a good
draft pick. Most likely, but you got a very high
paid question. It's uncertain you're still out on So.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
That that does not work out well for the Falcons,
who have kind of been really fraudulent this year. So
the Panthers have won the coin toss, and they're six
and zero when they win and zero to five when
they don't. Yes, a fascinating statistic. What do you make
of that? Anything? Just yeah, it can't be. I mean,

(25:39):
that's the odds of it being random are way too high.
So what is it?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I don't know, but I'm gonna be watching their game,
and if they win the toss, I'm love betting immediately
on them for them to win.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
The other one. I've ever studied whether or not deferring
and getting the ball in the second half. How much
of a statistical advantage is that, because I am of
the argument that it has to be a statistical advantage
that's at least somewhat significant, because you are going to
at worst get the same amount of possessions and at

(26:12):
best you're gonna get one more possession. So I've always
believed that getting the ball in the second half is
an advantage. But has it ever been studied? I don't
know the number. I would think there's got to be
something out there because that's well you and a talking
point for it, and see if it has been studied,
because I tend to think because the think about it.

(26:32):
If you play on the first half, team gets first ball,
if it comes out that they end up with one
more possession, then that'll be made up in the second half.
But if they end up with equal possessions, then in
the second half, the team is going to get one
more possession. Yep. And then you also have the chance
to double up, right, you got that chance, which there's

(26:53):
always a momentum thing.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
How many times we see a team down ten or
something get a little score right before the half and
you're in getting the ball right back the only time
you know, if you got a high powered offense and
you know it's gonna be a shootout and you just
want to go in and make a statement right away,
you might consider you.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Should what the teams should do in overtime now with
the new rules, because it's always been the case that
like you would take the ball in overtime, but now
that you're guaranteed a possession. In college, you always want
to go second. Do you want to go second. In
the NFL, there is the ten minute clock. That's that
that's a variable, which is the first The first team
could use up most of the clock, and a lot

(27:28):
of times they are. If they're they're able, they start
slowing it down. So if you're a coach, what are
you doing there? In the NFL? Give me the ball?

Speaker 2 (27:37):
And as we've seen just a couple weeks ago, if
even if I'm fourth down on the goal line, I'm
trying to punch in a touchdown because then they have
to go ninety some wherever I am, they have to
go the link.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
To the field to go for two on the other team.
So if you go first, you're opening up the possibility
that they go for two and just try to beat you,
and that you can't answer.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I'm just I'm just trying to get that first strike, man,
like you said, and teams are doing this. Once you
get in range, you're milking that clock as best you can.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, I don't like the ten minute clock. I have
to tell you, I think they should go to it
feel too short. I think if you win, I think
if you went to fifteen, then you don't worry about
the milk and the clock and then I think teams
would always take the ball second. Probably.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, We've had a couple of tis this year where
the team just needed a few more minutes to be a.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Respond field position issue with going second, because you could
get pinned.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
On like the w That's why where were the teams
just racing that a fourth down? They could have easily
kicked the field goal, but they went for it because
that was their logic, Like, Okay, you're gonna have to
go ninety nine yards if you stopped me, and there's
only a couple minutes left in this game.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Have you found anything on this?

Speaker 3 (28:40):
No, but I did find an interesting stat that prior
to two thousand and eight, ninety nine percent of teams
would select receive.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
So the strategy has drastically changed since then, prior to
ninety eight to nine eight ninety nine percent with ten percent,
and then what's the number now? I don't have that still, Well,
if it's still ninety nine, that wouldn't be very good statistic.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
But I mean, obviously it's not because most teams deffer
interesting that it wouldn't be just that high. I wouldn't
have either.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
So you're just saying, like somebody in two thousand and
eight figured it out and everybody was like, what is
like an email that went out to everyone? You should.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Lift which coach was that? Trying to learn all your accents?
That sounded like Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
It was Mike McCarthy. She was like, Oh no, that's
Tim Allen. Similar sound all right, Well, maybe somebody can
send us a message about the statistics because I have
to think there's some advantage uh to deferring at this point?

(30:02):
What's the next?

Speaker 3 (30:03):
New York Giants running back Cam Scataboo is under some
criticism recently. He is obviously out for the season with
a severe ankle injury, but he was spotted at Monday
Night Raw Monday Night recovering from a major Excuse me,
he was at Monday Night Raw and he was doing
a scripted bit where he was pushing around one the wrestlers.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Do not say wrestling is scripted. That's the kind of
thing they'll get you smacked across the face by a wrestler.
It is not scripted, all right. He was with me,
He was not doing a bit. He was a fan
of the wrestling and got caught up in the moment,
got caught up in the moment, and yeah, they didn't
arrest him like they would most fans who entered the fray,

(30:48):
but nevertheless, keep going. He became a part of the
spectacle there. We got like that. That's a better way
to put it, he said afterwards.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
If you don't like that I'm having a good time
while I'm dealing with a tough time, then just go
ahead and unfollow and casually move on.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
He wants me to casually move on. Well, I'm going
to move on, but not casually. Uh all right. Two
thoughts about this. He was with, you, said a comedian.
He was with Andrew Schultz. When did that guy? How
did that guy get famous? Andrew Schultz was not someone
that was in my life until about two years ago.
And now I see him all the time and his
podcast is huge. How did he get famous? I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I know he's famous. He like sells out the garden
for a show, which is pretty hard to do for comedians.
But I don't know famous.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I don't know what the what flipped it for him.
I know he has the podcast and it's called like
raw Face or something, but I don't know, and it's
and he just looks to have like he looks like
he just picked a bunch of stoners off the street
in New York and they sit with him. But what
made How did his podcast become a thing? So it
seems like something you would no abily. Do you listen

(31:51):
to him? I feel like you. It feels like to
me this would be someone you follow.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Really just clips. But I mean, you see a lot
of stand up comedians doing the podcast game.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, but he though, like almost everyone else that's big.
I think they had a career before the podcast. I
don't know what he did. Was he on a show?
Numerous MTV and MTV two shows? Oh if he's on
MTV two, including.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
Guy Code, never heard of it, Guy Court, Big on
the Guy Thanks, Girl Code, There's no way, just to start,
he was on Guy Code and Girl Code, Guy Code,
Guy Court, and Girl Code and Jobs that Don't Suck.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
I've never heard of video that singled out you can
you show him? Man? No, I don't see Chris Hard.
What's the name of his podcast is like rough Edge
or something? Hmmm, The Brilliant Idiots I think that's what
it's called. With fellow MTV personality Charlemagne the God. No,
I mean i've seen him with him, but that's not
the name of his SHOWLTZ also hosts Flagrant Flagrant. That's

(32:54):
the name of it, Flagrant, and he had Trump on
during the election. Well, anyway, point is he's there. Was
there an explanation of why he and scatterbo are hanging out. No,
it's all part of this new boys club that just
seems to go to UFC in wrestling. That's true. They
do all that, and Theo Vaughn is always at one
of them, the Mano Sphere, of which Billy wishes he

(33:15):
would be invited, but they don't let him because of
his shoes.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Scout a Booze. He's on like a quite the tour
since getting injured. I will say, I don't do you
think this was wrong of him to do? Normally I
would say no, But when watching it, my brain was going,
don't you have a bum ankle?

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah? Because they do, they wrap it. We couldn't see
it behind the thing. Normally I would not care. I'm
with you. Normally I would say let the man live.
He doesn't have to just sit at home and crochet.
But he gets pushed and falls backwards. Yeah, if he
plants on that and furthers the injury. What do the
Giants have to say about that? And if he has
a bum ankle, he's standing up? Huh. So I kind

(33:52):
of if I was a Giants fan or a Giants person,
I might be a little frustrated by it.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
He went to UFC at the garden and almost looks
he was in costume, having a good time whatever. He's
stayed in his seat, But the shoves in costume. He
had on the you know, the glasses that are cool
now that we can never pull off, and his hair
slick back, and you know he was doing that. I
don't I don't even know how I described that. Look,
you know the big like triangle sunglasses, he's wearing them
indoors old and John he looked exactly like, okay, that's fine.

(34:24):
But I mean when they got to shoving, my brain
was like, where is your ankle right now? Is someone
looking out for if you have to, you know, fall backwards.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
The shoving surprised me. So I actually think it's legitimate
for people to say he shouldn't have done this, do you, Billy, Yes, yeah,
he does it. I mean he needs to be arrested
out there. He needs to be arrested. That feels a
little strong. Resting arrested. I thought you set arrested too.

(34:52):
Abdul Carter should be arrested on record to say he
should not be arrested for it.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Did you see his teammate Abdol Carter and the rookie
that I wonder with the Titans. He shoved one of
the wrestlers and I think the wrestler landed one hundred
yards and.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
There was a dominating mystee or No, it was Finn
Balor and he literally I think, flew up in the
air and went yeah. I don't know if he was
selling that or if Carter really just threw him across
the threatn ballor drew a bad straw in that because
he's the littlest guy and he got Abdul Carter. Give
me Andrew Schultz. Yeah, when we're dividing who we're gonna fight,

(35:26):
I'm going to take Andrew Sentino, not not Abdul Carter.
So where does Scatoo pop up next? He's he's done mission,
he's done ww cock fighting? Do they have that up? There?
Was he at the Champions Classic last night? Car fighting?

Speaker 6 (35:46):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (35:46):
He looks like the type de wud go to the
slab fighting he entered. I wouldn't want to get slab
by him. You know, one of some people don't know
from other places. I'm part owner of a wrestling company
we have. We have a woman who does this slab fighting.
She says it takes a lot of practice. It's weird
when they just like there's out cold, like, yeah, I'm
just going to get up here and let you watch it.

(36:09):
I watch her because I'm pulling for you. May remember
Hayley j from Wrestlers on Netflix, but I don't like it.
It doesn't really appeal to me. But I guess Cambellton.
I can see Scatabo doing it right. Oh yeah, really
if we were setting odds, I think that's where he
pops up next. Or he might be appointed director of
the FBI. Just hope he don't get arrested now, just

(36:34):
saying what's next. Yeah, let's keep it rolling with the Bills.
Josh Allen had a heck of a game that we
were at. He had six touchdowns, including three on the ground.
That makes seventy five career rushing touchdowns for Josh Allen,
and with one more rushing touchdown, he will break the
all time record for the most rushing touchdowns by a
quarterback in their career. Cam Newton is currently tied with

(36:55):
him at seventy five. He's not He's going to obliterate
that record, right, Like he's not only going to break it,
I mean he's going to set it where like nobody
ever gets it right, it can be hard to touch.
I mean, how many things if he's got what's seventy
five now? Now, presumably he'll get less as he gets
older because he won't want to run it quite as much,
But how many think he ends up with one hundred

(37:15):
and twenty five hundred and forty. I mean he's getting
at least Tennesseeason, I think he's got ten right now
with a lot of football lefts. How old is he?

Speaker 2 (37:22):
He's like twenty eight, he's pretty young, twenty nine as
we saw just being their Sunday when he had three.
I mean he just when they get down on the
red zone, he can just get in. So he's had
three rushing touchdowns in that game.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Do you think these guys like him and Mahomes and
Lamar are they going to age? Like? I mean, Brady
was unique, but even like a Matthew Stafford who's able
to play very effectively to thirty seven thirty eight or
do you not think those guys will be able to
do it? I mean, this is what future we have.
This idea of quarterbacks can now play to be really old.

(37:53):
But can quarterbacks like that? I would lean no.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
But you mentioning Stafford going to this season, people question
if Stafford still had it in them. They're bringing up
his back.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
He had a couple of run I'm talking about guys
who like run and take hits like those guys do.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, I mean, I guess Allen's so big. I guess
he is taking hits even though sometimes it looks like
he's the one doing hitting of the group. Lamar, especially recently,
he would be a little more injury prone, and he's
taking more of hits than Mahomes and Allen.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Mahomes clearly wants to take no hits, although he Mahomes slide,
Alan will run three you. Yeah, Allen's got to stop.
He'll have to stop doing that.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
They also protect quarterbacks differently, now, roughing the passers a
lot different and despite them being running quarterbacks at times,
you know they are more protected on passing places.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
They are, No, they are, but even just not just
like getting hit. Part of the skill that you have
to be able to run like that is going to
diminish as you age. The skill of throwing a ball,
presumably you keep longer than the skill being able to
run and out maneuver a linebacker, right, Yeah, especially the
Lamar type where he's a little more quickness and elusive

(38:58):
than the other two. But even I mean even Josh Allen,
I mean, how many guys thirty five do you see
outmaneuvering a linebacker that's twenty five? Probably not a lot,
not many. Still, though, I think he'll end up with
Like if you say he's got seventy five now, just
if you had to guess, I'm gonna say one hundred
and twenty five.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, I'm thinking like it's fifteen a season, you know,
I mean, but for how many years? I'll say, say
he's got five more years at fifteen a season, then
we might so turn it down.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
So seventy five more and fifty I would take the
over on one twenty five, So a right good deal.
What's next?

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Oh, by the way, it's bills. At Texans Thursday night,
C J. Stroud ruled out Davis Mills two and oh.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Two and O Davis Mills. I'm worried about my Bills
and running into Davis Mills. Third best Stanford quarterback not
named Jim Plunkett? Are we still saying third at some point?
Number two?

Speaker 2 (39:55):
He can play his way into not even go a
beating luck lucks are one? Is it luck plunk out one?
Who was our three that we included?

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Get?

Speaker 6 (40:05):
Okay, so it was l Way, but we kicked the luckout.
I had Lway luck plunk it okay, but we kicked
plunk it out for Mills. Okay, are you ready to
kick luck out? He was posting for number two. Sorry,
I forgot our original three. There's just so many Stanford quarterbacks.
But it hard to argues won two games since we
played this game with David Smills.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, that's our Thursday night game. I'm picking the Texans
to win. I think Bill's had a tough game. They're
flying Thursday nights better for home teams. I'm gonna take
the Texans. What about you?

Speaker 2 (40:33):
I did get a picture from the airport in Houston
this morning and there were Bills fans everywhere. A friend
down in Texas is like, are you any of these people?
Couldn't make it. But it looks like Mafia is gonna
show up.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Do we know if Ted Cruz is coming. I don't
know if he is. I got the bill. I'm rolling
with the bill. He's got like a crazy curse record.
I mean, have you seen his record?

Speaker 5 (40:52):
Know?

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Is he like Drake? Oh? It's worse. It's like insane.
Every time he shows up, the team loses.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
So even if you liked him, if you knew there
was a celebrity pot to kind of like now mix
like get out of here.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah? No, yes, no, for sure. I mean if I
knew the President was my fan and he was causing
me to lose, I would say stay away, sir.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
I think every time I've gone to the Titans playoff game,
it's the one they lost. So maybe I'm that for
the Titans. You and Kenny Chesney are the are the
Jenkson's for the Titans? Who do you have in this one?

Speaker 1 (41:29):
The Bills? I think they get it done.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
I see a tweet where the Astros are zero to
five in home playoff games attended by ten crews.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah, and then I think there was another one. Houston basketball.
I think when they were number one, their first loss
was and he was there, so yeah, I would I
would tell him not to go.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah, and he actually should feel that, Like, at some
point you have to be self aware that I just
keep maybe it's me I keep walking into.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
The stadium and then they lose. Yeah, I think that's
I think that's an issue. What's next?

Speaker 3 (42:10):
A quick look at the playoff picture after the Chiefs
loft to the Broncos last week, they are now five
and five and on the outside looking win. Which is
interesting because the Chiefs have won nine straight AFC West titles.
That is the second longest streak ever. The first longest
streak is the New England Patriots from twenty nine to
twenty nineteen. That's eleven straight years of winning their division.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Well, they're not winning their division. I think they're going
to make the playoffs, but they're not winning the division.
When you agree, no, they're not winning the division. I
mean right now, right now, they're in ninth place. So
here's the question. Buffalo is the five seed right now,
Kansas City is ninth, Baltimore's ten. In between Buffalo and

(42:55):
Kansas City and Baltimore are the Chargers, Jacksonville, Houston. Then
there's Pittsburgh, at six and four, it is hard to
imagine a playoff without both Buffalo, Kansas City, and Baltimore.
So Buffalo, Kansas City, Baltimore or Pittsburgh Chargers Jacksonville. Of
those six teams, what three are getting in getting it?

Speaker 2 (43:18):
I'm starting to put the Chiefs on the out in Baltimore.
In I think it's crazy to say the Chiefs could
not be in the playoffs, but I think we might
be heading that direct.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Pittsburgh's a heading the division, so Pitts. So for Baltimore
to win, they need to they need to take out Pittsburgh.
So chances are to either be Baltimore or Pittsburgh. So
it's basically Houston or Kansas City in Buffalo. So two
three of those five will make it, which is three.

(43:50):
Chiefs got an easy schedule if you look at they
play the Colts this week, but then it gets really
easy the last few weeks. They play like your Titans.
They play a lot of bad teams at home. So
they got a tough game this week, but then then
it starts to get a little easier, leaning both AFC
South teams, which sounds crazy. You're leading Jacksonville in Houston.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Yeah, Okay, Chargers looked really bad last week against Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Chargers are falling rapidly. I'm gonna say Buffalo makes it,
Kansas City makes it, and then you know, let's look
at Jacksonville schedule. Jacksonville plays Cardinals, Titans, Colts, Jets, Broncos, Colts, Titans,
gets tough at the end, but I know they have
two against the Titans. Those are automatic. Mean they have
two against the Titans and the Jets, so that's three wins.

(44:38):
You feel pretty good about them getting That gets them
to nine.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
That's why I was considering them, because the schedule that's left,
I didn't I didn't know they had the Broncos and
a couple of tough games in there. But I knew
they had a couple more aganst the Titans.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
And they got Colts twice. Though that's tough. I'm gonna
say Jacksonville makes it. So I'm gonna say Kansas City
and Jacksonville and Buffalo are the three that make it.
Now in the NFC, the Bears are seven and three.
The division leaders are Philly, Rams, Bears, Tampa Bay, the
wild card, Seattle, Green Bay, San Francisco. Right now, Detroit

(45:10):
would be out, and then there's Carolina. Do the Bears
hold off Green Bay and Detroit win the division? They're
currently up a half a game.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
I got Detroit out and I might have out of
the playoffs, might even pick them in the super Bowl
before the year started a right, So here's who they
think you Bears and Packers both get in.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
They play the Giants, the Packers, the Cowboys, the Rams,
the Steelers, the Vikings, and the Bears. They have a
hard schedule the Lions. Is that Bears the last game
of the year is that could be in, That could
be for a playoff. That's my pick. That's to get in.
Green Bay plays Vikings, Lions, Bears, Broncos, Packers, Ravens, Packers,
So they've got hard and then you look at the Bears.

(45:55):
They go Steelers, Eagles, Packers, Browns, Packers, forty nine Ers lines.
The Bears have a hard one too. All those teams
from the NFC North have a hard schedule, and depending
what you think of the Steelers, Bears might have an
advantage if it's Mason Rudolpheit Aaron Rodgers and Rodgers comes
back playing well. And the forty nine Ers, on the
other hand, have Panthers, Browns, Titans, but then they finish Colts,

(46:19):
Bear Seahawks. They have a tough three, but they get
the Titans in the Browns.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
It's just so weird to be week twelve and we're
debating will the Lions, Bill's Chiefs Ravens be in the playoffs?
Who would have had that move to start the year.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yeah, the Panthers schedule is tough too, down the street,
so really, any of those teams can make it. All
of them kind of have hard schedules. You're gonna you're
gonna have to earn it in order to get in
the one seed. You like Philadelphia of the Rams to
get it, Give me the Rams, Philly. I'm gonna go

(46:56):
Philly and then Denver. New England and the Colts are
all tied. Yeah, Philly, I'm trying to play out their schedule.
England schedule. New England schedule is being Giants, Bills, Ravens, Jets, Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I said, Philly, because they still have two games against
the Commanders. Think they have another against Dallas, the Raiders.
They have a pretty easy schedule. They've played their tough game,
toughest games already.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
In New England's gonna be the one seed. And I
don't even think they're good. I don't. I don't think
they're good. That they have had the easiest schedule. They're
the New England Patsy's when it comes to their schedule.
Beat the Bills? Think, is it because you think Drake
May is Daniel Jones? No, I just don't think they've played.
I mean, who have they beaten? Okay, you mentioned they

(47:41):
did win that game at the Bills. The Bucks beat
at the Bucks and at the Bills. But then there
are other wins Jets, Falcons, Browns, Titans, Saints, Panthers. Uh,
they lost to the Steelers and Dolphins. Now those aren't
strong outside of the Bills. They beat the Bills and Bucks,

(48:03):
but the Bills have a chance to beat them back.
So really, it's just your stinking Bucks who ended up
screwing it up, right.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Yeah, and the Bucks have their own issues. The Panthers
are only a half a game back too, So all right,
what's next?

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (48:16):
This is the final news note that I have. The
Saints are expected to play a game in Paris as
early as twenty twenty six. It'll be the eighth international
market for the NFL.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Are they picking that because of the sort of French
I think so makes sense. Is you mapel New Orleans
Florida Lee. Yeah, the Florida Lee. That's exactly right. I
think I saw they were gonna have special French uniforms.
Oh nice, I think, which mean the players are gonna
have to wear berets. That'd be great set of Guardian helmets.
Caps just put a big beret on top of their helmet,

(48:46):
and they're gonna all have like an easel that they
paint off of when they run their plays. Uh, twenty
what year?

Speaker 3 (48:54):
It's as possibly as early as next year, but it
has not been announced yet, expecting an announcement in the
coming week.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
They do not care about football in Paris at all.
I mean some of those we talked about it, some
of these European spots, like in Germany and England, there
are football fans in Paris. There are not. They've tried
to put the European League teams in Paris and they
just can't get ready to care. I don't know that
having the Saints will will matter, but maybe people in
New Orleans who feel like a French connection, they'll want

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to come.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
I get the French connection. But when we're going into
these new countries to grow the game, sometimes I am like,
why are we sending these teams? We should be sending
our best to show off the products. Yeah, not Tyler Schuck.
I don't like I'm a controversy. I don't like Paris,
you know, I like Europe. I'm not one of these
people I don't.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Like.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
I mean, I like going places. I don't like Paris.
What was wrong with it? I like France? But Paris
first of all, so it's the most expensive city on Earth,
and people just hate you for being there, Like know
what in Paris? Want you there? Like get out of here,
all of you. And the food is fou fou so

(50:05):
like I'd not for me. All they're doing is drinking
coffee at all times. The art is the only the
art is great. I do like going to Louve and
things like that. Is it not the city of love?
Could you not feel it in the air? I mean,
I guess I've never been on a romantic jaunt when
I was there. Maybe that would make a difference. I've
been solo traveling usually, but I don't. It's it's of

(50:29):
the major cities. It's my least favorite well we're heading there.
We're growing the game.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
You say it's eight now eight yeah, eight international market.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
They're also expecting Australia to be added that way. Yeah,
we talked about that. Well. I mean, if if they
want to send us, I'll go. I'm not flower miles
off and get my past only they do have good
like tart tart, just tart, Yeah, like French bread and
and and tart and uh uh what do you call them?

(51:00):
With the fruit? You know, you know what I'm talking about, Yeah, billy,
you know fruit trays veget like when you have pastry
and it has fruit in it, it's like strudle. Okay,
never mind, but anyway, pop tart very fancy's right, all right,
So let's do our picks. It is time for the

(51:23):
Liberty Mutual Bundle. This is where we picked three games
as our three picks. You know, Liberty the Liberty Mutual
Victory Bundle. So pick our three for victories. I'm sitting
here looking at the schedule. We're gonna go three. We're
gonna make a little harder because we've been winning too much.
It's actually not true, but we're gonna we're gonna pick

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against the spread. I'm gonna first. I'm my first one.
I'm gonna take the Texans plus six tomorrow night. You
give me. I mean, I think they're gonna win the game,
So you give me plus six. That's a that's a
Liberty Mutual victory bundle if I've ever heard it. What
about you? I'm tempted to take the Titans plus their
teen and a half. Stop. You don't want to do it.

(52:08):
That's such a huge spread in the NFL. You don't
want to do that. But we almost beat Davis Mills.
I mean we you can't. This is Liberty Mutual thirteen
and a half part Liberty Mutual thirteen. Need you to
imagine when we're going to talk to to the advertising
director of Liberty Mutual and they're gonna say to you, like,

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you know, did you pick the Titans at plus thirteen? Okay,
I'll change. I have another one.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
I like, it's your team, Bears. I'm a believer, Okay,
quarterback uncertainty. I think it's two two and a half.
Three yep, two and a half, especially two and a half.
If it's not a three yet, I'm locking it in
now because that'll be higher on site.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
It's on two and a half. All right, so you're
gonna go Bears Texas and then for the third one,
let's make sure we agree on it, because I don't
want to do you like I have another I like,
I'll see if what do you like? What is it? Well?

Speaker 2 (52:57):
I can't keep bringing up teams. We know Eagles are
at the Cowboys. It's only three and a half. The
Cowboys have no defense.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Yesh, sad? How bad the Ty defenses? All right, so
Eagles three and a half, Bears two and a half,
and then the Texans getting six. That's going to be
your Liberty Mutual victory bundle. Start your quote at Libertymutual
dot com. All right, before we go, Billy, you need

(53:24):
to try to keep your Survivor League thing going. You
are now in week twelve and still in reading me
off the teams you've viewed. Yeah wait wait just you
We're out me.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Yes, the Royal We, the Jags, Cardinals, Bills, Indy, Casey,
New England, Houston, LAC That is who I've picked so far.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
You've picked more than that. That's only like eight right, Well,
we haven't done every week. We only missed one week.
This is week twelve. I think we missed three weeks,
but I have an easy pick this week. All right,
go ahead.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
It is the Seattle Seahawks on the road against the
Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Pretty easy one, all right, I think, I mean, I
think you're going to get that one. We have a
sound strategy. I noticed you, tits. We did not miss
three weeks.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
I know we missed at least two. We missed two,
and that was two of the biggest upsets. I remember
well because I was, and you would have been out
if we had a done podcast.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
You've forgotten one. I would not have been out, you Bill.
You're just doing the Titans every week. Carrental, I'm on
to you. I am I have as you pick losers,
you don't pick winner. Well, they're a loser. All right.
Now it's time to pick our touchdown score. Who went first?
Last week? It's now tied. You got one and I didn't,
so it's four four. Does you just have one? I'm
still sitting on one. Well, I don't know how I did.

(54:40):
Last week. I had you had Josh Jacobs that did
not hit. Oh he got hurt even worse.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
And Matt had Stefan Diggs that did not hit. So
it is four four one four four one? Can I
go first?

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Here? Is it your turn to go first? I don't know,
but clug I haven't gone first in months. I don't know.
He's behind. Let's let him go first.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Well, obviously, I'm going to take a receiver from the
Seattle Seahawks. I guess I haven't even done JSN yet
this year, so let's take him.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
So you're gonna take Jackson Smith in Jigba yep. I
love you Titans, all right. I mean that's a good pick.
I'm gonna go. So I guess I'll go next. No, Billy, actually,
your next go ahead. I want to go quarterback, and
I have not picked Josh Allen yet.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
I think he breaks the NFL record against the Houston
Texans Thursday night.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Yeah, okay, I'll take that one. So you've taken a
wide receiver, you've taken you've got running back, So I
gotta take a running back. I'm going to take Derrick
Henry playing against the Jets thirteen and a half point favorite.
I feel like he runs one hend. This is the
week we're all hitting it, I think, so I like
all three of those picks. Josh Allen, Derrick Henry and

(55:51):
Jackson Smith and Jigba. That would be your NFL cover
zero touchdown parlay love it well, guys, I think I
think we did it again. We did a wonderful show.
I think we hit all the right note. I just can't.
I felt it too. We hit all the right notes,
you know, and you think there were notes we didn't hit.

(56:11):
I like our predictions. I had a b major.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
You did a great impersonation of I think it was
Mike McCarthy. Still haven't confirmed that, but it was good.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
You won't move. You picked against the Bills though I
thought this was a Bills podcast now and Drew's getting
too excited. I loved it, but we need to slow down. Plus,
I bought three pieces of paraphernil. That's too many. I'm
already like, Okay, I don't pera. I think merchandisel apparel.
No paraphernalia. Okay, that's you don't think that's a word. No,

(56:45):
I know it's a word, but you know, so let's
all go to the game and get some parapernilia just
because you all don't know complicated words. I mean, I've
got no I got some bills like paraphernalia again, he
doesn't say a lot that and tell you all right, well,

(57:07):
thank you all very much. We will see you Sunday.
What's the Sunday night game? Are we gonna is it
gonna be? How are we gonna talk about today? Night?
Is Bucks? Rams? Yeah? Yeah, I got to Big Tom today.
We're to stay up for that one, so uh uh.
We will see you then. This is NFL Cover zero.

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