2025-06-06 LEACH REPORT

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This podcast of The Leech Report is presented by Boone's
Butcher Shop in Barnestown at one hundred Old Bloomfield Pike,
family owned and operated since nineteen forty six, with fresh
meat cut on site daily. Boons Butcher Shop. Hey, we've
made it to Friday. Good day, everybody. Welcome in. It
is the Leech Report, presented by Bob Gat Enterprises and

(00:23):
welcome in. What a finish last night in Game one
of the NBA Finals. We'll talk about that here in
a second but big game for shake Elchess Alexander. Unfortunately
for OKC it was in defeat. We will talk a
little bit about the Belmont Stakes to lead off third
leg of the Triple Crown and no Triple Crown on
the line, but a showdown between the Derby winner and

(00:45):
the Preakness winner and then the fast closing Derby third
place finisher added to the mix as well. So we
will talk about all of that with Dick Girardi. Try
to help you make a little money, yep at Saratoga
this weekend, Old Bird from the Cats Paws, we'll join
us in the second half of the show. Daryl went
to the SEC meetings as he always does and gets

(01:07):
a lot of great content out of doing that. And
he had a long interview with coach Mark Pope that
has turned into several articles for him at katspaws dot com.
And we'll touch on several of those topics they got
into during the interview today about trying to keep fourteen
players happy and replay for college basketball and the Coaches

(01:30):
Challenge and adding more games and a lot of good
stuff to get into with Darryl on his visit with
Coach Pope. And then we'll finish up with Tom Shab
from the Kentucky Golf Trail. He's the man in charge
of marketing for the Woodford Legends Invitational that's coming up

(01:54):
this weekend. Wile Cat News of the day always the
service of Giuseppes of Lexington. Thirty eight points for Shay
Gilges Alexander last night, but it wasn't enough as the
Pacers rallied from nine down in the final three minutes
to beat OKAC won eleven to one to ten in
Game one of the NBA Finals. Pacers have been incredible
with their comebacks. It was Game one against the Knicks

(02:17):
when they were down and out. It looked like in
the final minutes and they came back to get the win.
So Tom Tibodeau is probably saying, see, I'm not the
only one that happens to Tyrese Haliburton hit a shot
with zero point three seconds left and it gives the
Pacers the win in Oklahoma City, so home court advantages

(02:41):
erased for the moment, I gave up on it. I
to went to bed. I thought, okay, see had it
in hand. Pacers had nineteen turnovers at halftime, but they
only had six in the second half. And they also
and I guess to show you that, you know, good

(03:02):
defense isn't just guarding your man, it's also getting the
misshot that you can force. And OKC shot forty percent
from the field and only had ten offensive rebounds, so
the Pacers controlled the defensive glass. They also made eighteen
to three, so a little tip of the cap to
the game the way the game has played these days,

(03:24):
and the Pacers, with their rebounding and their three point shooting,
were able to offset a massive amount of turnovers. The
nineteen in the first half I think was a Finals
record anyway. Now, the thunder youngest team in the NBA
this season, as it's back against the wall a bit

(03:44):
after losing Game one. UK men's basketball players are starting
to arrive on campus. If you follow the various entities
that cover the team, you'll see pictures. I saw one.
It's been I saw this picture and KSR. Braiden Hawthorne

(04:05):
recreated a picture. We talked about this with Larry Vaught
on Tuesday. Larry had a story and which he talked
with Braid's dad about the fact that they attended John
Caliperry father Son camp when Braiden was like seven or eight.
And there's a picture that Larry had in his story

(04:26):
of Braiden with the Joe By Hall statue outside of
Memorial Coliseum, and so Braiden has recreated that, and so
that was kind of cool to see. George Kemble, the
third from Eastern Kentucky University, is going to be in
the SEC next season. He is transferring to Vanderbilt after
averaging eighteen points a game last season for the Colonels.

(04:50):
Remember what was the young man's name a few years
ago from Eastern that transferred into play for Auburn. I
think Wendell Green maybe almost certain. Last name was Green. Anyway,
another colonel headed to the sec big weekend for Kentucky

(05:12):
football recruiting. A lot of highly touted visitors are going
to be on campus this weekend. They've already had some
in town this week, so practices will start to ramp
out and workouts get more serious next month, but June
is the big recruiting month for Kentucky football. Links to

(05:32):
the stories that we talk about each day you can
find those on the bud Light Leech Report page at
Tom leachky dot com. Heading to the break with a
reminder that our opening segments presented each day by Giuseppes
of Lexington. They're just off Nicholasville Road out past Manor
War here in Lexington. Get to open table right now
and make a reservation for your next special night out

(05:54):
at Giuseppes. It's a little different. I mean, the food's fantastic,
but the ambiance is what really sets it apart Dave
Hall's live jazz music. If you choose to sit in there.
Expanded lounge area is just a really nice compliment to
a fantastic meal. You can check out the menu a
Juseppes Lexington dot com. Do a little game planning for

(06:15):
your next visit. We'll get to a break, come back
with Dick Girardi talk about the Belmont Stakes weekend up
at Saratoga. It is the Leech Report and we're presented
each day by Bobcat Enterprises quarter past the top of
the hour and our show coming to here from the
Clark's Pumpin' Shop studio. Return, refresh and refuel at Clark's

(06:35):
all across the Commonwealth, and they have a new loyalty
rewards program you'll want to sign up for so you
can get discounts some fuel and items in their stores.
Girardi joins us, a longtime turf rider for the Philadelphia
Daily News, it comes to his courtesy of Bettonline dot
Ag to talk about the final leg of this year's

(06:56):
Triple Crown series, the Belmont Steakes. Not at Belmont Park again,
it's at Saratoga while the Bell Mountain renovation continues, and
it's at a mile and a quarter, not a mile
and a half like it was last year. And Dick,
it's an interesting storyline. For all the debating about the
Triple Crown dates and battle back and forth about all

(07:19):
of that, we do end up with a great storyline
here with the winner of the derby battling the winner
of the Preakness. And then you've also got Baeza who's
ridden by Flavi and Pratt who had the jockey stretched.
Battle there between journalism and goal oriented and the Preakness
and what journalism did impressively win that race. So there

(07:42):
are some really interesting storylines to this race tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
No question, it's the best thing you get other than
obviously a horse going for the triple Crown. So yeah,
you get Derby Winter Preakness winner, the chaos from the Preakness,
and that was about as crazy as I've ever seen
on the race track. I'm watching it. I don't know,
a sixteenth pole in the grand stand at Pimlico, where
I first went to the race as a kid years ago.

(08:07):
I want to watch my last breakness point. I probably
watched my first one, and I'm watching the top of
the stress.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
I'm going, what is.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Going on here? And I still can't believe journalism on.
I mean, I've never.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Seen that before.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
So yeah, it should be fun for a third leg
without a triple crown. We got a lot going on tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, he kind of hit the hole, I don't know,
like Jim Brown or something. Journalism into previous. But yeah,
Jim Brown wasn't going forty miles an hour when he
did it. Oh you know, there were people trying to
tackle him. They didn't quite try to tackle Journalism, but
it was close.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, And the difference is Jim Brown probably actually had
a hole. There was no whole time that was the problem.
I still don't know what the jockey was thinking.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
I know what he said.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
He said the horse didn't feel right, so he thought
he had to save Brown. Journalism's best attribute is he's
a phenomenal straightaway runner, which he obviously he proved in
the Preakness, and then he watched the San Felipe and
the Santanita Derby. When he strings out in the stretch,
his stride just Lengthon's. So I just think he made
a mistake and he got lucky he ended up winning

(09:11):
because the horse is so good. But just keep him
outside where he can see sky and let him roun.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah. I think of that scene from the movie Seabiscuit
where the Red Pollard characters telling the George Wolf character about,
you know, Seabiscuit. He's got to see his rival eyeball
him or whatever, and you know he'll you know, run

(09:38):
better for you, yea journalism. I think back to the
Santa Anita Derby. He had put in a box on
the final turn there, and once he finally extricated himself,
it was that similar situation to the Preakness where the
Santaita Derby was Baza was out there with a lone
lead and looked like he was home free, and journalism

(09:59):
was like, uh uh. And the same thing happened in
the Preakness with Oscar and it is you know, he's
an interesting kind of a cool horse in that regard,
is that he is clear he really wants.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
To win, no question.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
And I guess what everybody's interested in, specifically the trainer
Michael McCarthy, is how good can he be with just
a clean run without having the trouble he had at
the Santania Derby, without having obviously the major issues at
the Preakness where he was able to overcome it and
the Derby, I know you and I talked about it,
but I think a lot of that had to do
with what happened at the beginning where he lost position

(10:35):
and it was a sloppy track and yeah, and you
give credit to the winner, who was really good that day,
but yet to be able to overcome those two trips
in two major races like the Santinia Derby and the
Preakness and win. I don't know that I ever remember
any horse at this level. I mean, look a fleet
Alex did it obviously in the Preakness, but doing it
twice in the free races at this level of the game,

(10:58):
I don't remember it happening.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
I do a podcast for Keelan select dot com each
week with Jim Goodman and the Mutuals guy at Keelan
and we taped our podcast yesterday and Jim is taking
a stand against journalism from a wagering standpoint, nothing personal,
but just that his thought is that the horse, after,

(11:23):
you know, going through what he's gone through, he's due
for maybe a bit of a regression. I went the
other direction, thinking that to something you were just talking about,
drawn to the outside. I think he may finally get
a clean trip and be able to maybe show us

(11:44):
what journalism is at his very best. So where do
you come down on that spectrum?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah? No, I come down on your side. And I
think if you go back to his first race this year,
the San Felipe, remember Barnes was the hot horse for
Bob Baffort, and he and phenomenal that day loose to
the League. He looked like he had to win the
race the whole way, and Journalism ran him down, just
like he wrapped down Coscer in the Preakness. It was

(12:10):
like that was the day I said, oh my god,
this is the horse. I do understand where Jim is
coming from. It's these three races in five weeks ago. Absolutely,
some horses don't get through it. I mean like last year,
Mystic Dan was not the same horse in the Belmont
as he was in the Derby and the Preakness. But
I can go back and give you in the last
twenty years, I can give you a Fleet Alex. I

(12:32):
can give you Smarty Jones, even mind that bird was
still running great at the end. Of course, we have
the two Triple Crown winners, and Curlin, the sire of
the sire of Journalism, was as good at the end
of the Triple Crown as he was at the beginning.
So there's a lot of examples of horses have been
just fine coming through the three races in five weeks.
But the problem is none of us are going to

(12:54):
really know that until they run the race. But having
watched them train on video and seen everything, to me,
he looks every bit as good as he did coming
into the Derby.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Interesting angle from the standpoint of race strategy. We both
kind of think of journalism as a horse who's at
his best when he's got a target to go for
in the stretch. Sovereignty is going to be behind him
when they most likely when they roll into the stretch.
So best case for Journalism is it is it to
have Baasa out there in front of him?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
It's a really good question, and I think that's the
key to the whole race. How the race is going
to be running me we know Rodriguez is going right,
we also know that Krudo is going and then that's
the question who's going to be third? Is it going
to be Baasa or is it going to be Journalism?
And Flavi and Pratt will probably make that determination because
he's just inside journalism. Either way, I'm not sure it
really matters, but I can guarantee you this, they do

(13:49):
not want to be worse than fourth with Journalism because
the other four horses are all closers. I mean, that's
how they run. They're coming they're coming from the back,
So I would think journalism at some point maybe has
to pass by as or bys just behind him. But yeah,
if sovereignty's headed journalism, then something is wrong. Something happened

(14:10):
that should not have happened. So but yeah, I think
the whole key to the race is maybe the first
couple hundred yards watch what Pratt does on basa and
see what Riskily does on journalism. But in my perfect
world for me on journalism, I'd like to see him third,
sitting just behind the two speed horses.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
We've talked a lot about strategy and storylines, will take
a quick break, come back and talk with Dick Girardi
about how to try to make a little money at
the Belmont Stakes or on the other parts of the
card coming up at Saratoga this weekend. It's the Leach
Report and we are presented by Bobcat Enterprises. We'll be
right back. Triple Crown coverage this springs once again being

(14:49):
presented by Clayborne Farm doing the usual, unusually well for
more than a century. Dick Girardi's on the line with us.
He has covered every Triple Crown on race nineteen eighty seven,
he's in the Joehurst Media Role of Honor at the
National Racing Museum up at Saratoga whe they're running the
Belmont Stakes this weekend, and he comes to us courtesy

(15:10):
of bet online dot ag and they have a lot
of different prop bets on these races at each stop
along the way. What's the most interesting one or two
of the props for you?

Speaker 2 (15:24):
The one time? I really like this time and it's
new this for this one, and I find it fascinating.
So over under on the gate number four and a
half is the number that gives you Baeza the five,
and it also gives you the seventh or Biaza the
six and journalism the seven, and that's an even money bet,

(15:44):
So basically you're getting the two of the three best
horses against sovereignty. So I like that bet. I'm going
to go with the over four and a half. And
another fun fun one is well the jockey's name and
winning jockey's name end in z so we're talking the
one with Irad Ortiz, the four of Louis SaaS and

(16:04):
the five with Johnny pelas Quiz. That's also a fun one.
And that's like that's about and slightly about an even
money bet as well.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Let's talk a little bit about how to make a
little money playing the races this weekend. First of all,
in the Belmont stakes, I don't think you're going to
pay off the mortgage unless you bet the balance of
your mortgage to on this particular race. But what's what's
the best way to play this race? If you think

(16:35):
one of those top three is going to win?

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, let me correct myself on one thing. That that
Z bet is Yes, is plus six hundred, No is
minus fifteen hundred. Obviously that's a long shot, because those
are three long shots the one we're talking, Hill Road, Crudo,
and ungaged. So yet my play is this, I'm going
to play the twelfth race time, which the turf race

(16:58):
right before the Belmont. I absolutely love the terministic the five.
I think he's going to be loosing the lead with
my man Kendrick Carmot. So I'm going to play a
cold one punch double five seven deterministic to journalism because
I'm not sure that I can find a horse other
than by his her sovereignty to be second. And if

(17:20):
that's the case, who you know, what am I doing?
I'm not going to make any money anyway exactly, I
do think and I could do it at weather there.
Apparently there's some weather coming in today. About tomorrow, I'm
not really sure. I know they're supposed to be able
to Saratoga Counties under a flood watch for later this afternoon,
which is not good. But tomorrow the forecast has changed like.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Eight times about thirty seconds left. Anybody else you like
elsewhere the card tomorrow or even today?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, Mullikan, I like in the in the sprint race tomorrow,
they actually scratched the horse that I liked originally. Make
sure I think it's raised seven. Yeah, the True North
Uh right now, that's not the truth. I'm sorry. Book
them Dano and the True North of seven for sure.
I thought he ran an unbelievable race at Churchill on

(18:10):
Derby Day.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
There you go. Dick Girardi from bet online dot AG.
Thank you, sir for the time all throughout the Triple
Crown campaign. Good luck tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Absolutely, thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Ton, it's the Latet Report. We'll be right back. Well.
Summer is at hand and corn bread hemp is here
to help you enjoy it if you're out on the water,
kicking back with friends or just winding down after a
long day. Corn Bread Hemp has what you need to
make you feel your best. Oils and topicals for those

(18:43):
aches and pains, infused gummies and their new seltzers that
will take the edge off a tough day. And those
seltzers they are new. They're infused, packed with delicious fruit
flavor and five billigrams of the good stuff. No booze,
no hangover. It's just a smooth, enjoyable lift. Five milligram
Hemp infusion for a light, enjoyable buzz without the alcohol

(19:05):
or the hangovers. Only thirty calories per can, five grams
of sugar for a guilt free indulgence. If you're new
to cornbread Hemp products, don't forget to put in the
code TOM at checkout and you get twenty percent off
your first order for Cornbreadhemp dot com This is the
Good Life. Joining us on the club Blueennil dot com
highline is Darryl Bird from katspause dot com and Daryl,

(19:27):
I can't think of probably anything where you get a
better return on your investment as a journalist than the
trip you make to the SEC meetings each year. Because
not a lot of other people do that. You get
great content. You got a long interview with Mark Pope
that is generating a lot of stories for you at

(19:48):
Katspaws dot com and it's interesting stuff. It was a
good opportunity for you.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yeah, it worked out really well this year. Thanks for
having me on. Tom.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
I think I'm up to.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Eight stories and maybe one more left, and then they've
got a few with Mitch Barnhardt as well coming. His
or is typically usually longer overview types. But yeah, this
you never is a thing about it down there. There
are no guarantees. If they're tied up and something happens,
then you you may miss out and may not get
the interview at all. But so far every year it's

(20:20):
been at least twelve years probably it's it's worked out
every time. This one was a little weird because ended
up having to do Mark and Mitch like back to back,
to the point of it was kind of comical that
the Ady of Kentucky is standing over there not tapping
his foot. But I'm like, okay, hurry, hurry up, because
Mitch got called Mitch got called back into the football

(20:41):
coaches meeting for some reason, and he was in there
for I told him, I said, something's not right. When
the commissioner of the SEC gets out of the meetings
thirty minutes before you do something, you gotta work on
your priorities.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Uh, well, you've got a lot of these stories. These
stories are up at Cat's Paused where those fans can
find them. So let's just hit a few of the highlights.
First of all, I want to talk about it's something
that I think a lot of fans think about. Mark
Pope has a roster of fourteen players. Yes, and they're
very talented guys and all under certain circumstances somewhere could

(21:22):
be a starter. I'm sure. So, yes, how does he
and he you talk to him about? How do you
keep fourteen guys happy?

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (21:31):
That was probably number one on my list, because I mean,
you and I we've been doing this a long time.
Anybody's been around basketball for a long time. The old
adage is you've got X number of players in one
basketball how you can't make everybody happy? I was really
curious to see what his response would be, and I'll
be honce he nabled it, and he didn't even hesitate.

(21:51):
I said, how do you keep you ever having? He said,
because I've got fourteen guys who are not afraid of competition.
They are here, they know the level competition, and they're
here to take it on full force.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
That's how we'll do it.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
And I'm like, wow, that's a good answer, I'm thinking
to myself. But then he went on made a really
interesting point. He said, I live this that ninety six
team had nine players eventually go to the NBA. That
competition every day in practice is out of this world,
and it made us better. He didn't come out and

(22:24):
say without the competition, there is no ninety six championship,
but it makes sense that some of the practices were
probably harder than seventy percent of the games they played
that year based purely on talent, and he's kind of
looking at this is kind of the same.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
That competition is.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Going to fine tune this team and give them more
depth considering the injury as they went through last year.
They'll be more prepared if something should raise up like that.
And he talked about the roster having more versatility than
the last years as far as okay, you've got injuries,
you've got more than one option to fill that void,

(23:00):
and it's deeper, and it's one of those questions where
you're like, how do I carefully ask this? But I said,
it appears that the coaches were determined to make sure
this roster is more athletic than last year's, you know,
not trying to invault last year. And he said, oh, yeah,
no doubt. I'm like, oh good, I don't feel so

(23:21):
bad asking that question because I'm a little shaky on
that one. He said, absolutely, we want to be more
athletic and more versatile and deeper, and that's what he's accomplished.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
It feels like, and let's see if you agree that
his first season in this league at Kentucky and with
the you know, the injury issues that he had to
deal with, those two things we were driving factors in
how he put his roster together and the number of players.

(23:53):
He accumulated, right.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, there's no doubt about that. And I did ask
him at one point early in the comversation. I said,
you guys beat Duke and Florida two of the four
final horrors.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
I said, does.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
It haunt you about what might have been? About the injuries?
He said, well, I try not to think about it.
And I'm like, sorry, started to bring up painful. He said, yes,
it's natural, he said. But at the same time, that's
just sports. That's that's how this thing works, and some
years you're going to go through he said. Is it
bothered him most? Not for him, but he said for

(24:30):
it really bothers me for a little lot. Butler and
how I wish he could have gone through that whole
year injury free.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
He said, Look, look at the.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Start Andrew Carr had.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
He said, he was off to a.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Fantastic start, and then the back spats really bugged him
for probably a month or more. He said, I wish
those guys could have gone through that whole you know,
get one shot to play a Kentucky that they had
gone through that whole adventure healthy and then you know,
if they win, they win. But just for them to
have experienced it all without without all gosh, the number
of injuries ahead was ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
I mean, that's a great point because you think of
Lamont Butler against Louisville and Andrew Carr against Duke. You know,
when those two guys were just those two in particular
were at their best, yes, and they were were healthy
at at that point.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
I think they got his highest number four in the poll.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
I think, yeah, We talked with Dryl Byrd from Katzpaus
dot com about his series of articles coming out of
the SEC meetings when he had a chance to get
extended sit down Q and a's with the Mark Pope
and with Mitch Maarnhardt. This is a team that seemingly
is is quite versatile that Mark has put together and

(25:43):
we you know, we're talking about you keeping that many
guys happy. You referenced his comments about the ninety six team,
how much talent they had and how you know it
clicked for them. It wasn't you know, in fairness a
different era, no transfer portal, no ni l uh, still
a little bit of uh, you know, uh your jobs

(26:04):
to make me happy from the coach, not the other
way around. Whereas uh, that's the you know, that world
is changing and I think the biggest part of coaching now,
being successful in coaching is to get players to want
to do what you need them to do. And no
doubt you know that that was a big part of

(26:24):
of Cal's early success with all those you know guys
going to the NBA. Uh, they they were able to
keep them from having issues with being selfish. So that's
you know, that's an interesting challenge. But you know, we
both watch how Mark Pope goes about his job and
he seems like the U the best guy to have

(26:46):
a shot to pull it off.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah. The way he relates with his players is no
doubt about that.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
It's the thing I was talking with Niche was talking
about how the GPAs for the whole athletic program were
like a three point Foward said, He's how great that is,
And I'm like, yeah, especially in this age where you
have athletes who are making a pretty good amount of money. Yeah,
and if they don't like it, they'll just leave. So
why should I keep up with my grades and getting

(27:12):
paid it? He puts Mitch puts it on. He said,
this is the best collection of coaches he's ever had
the privilege to work with because they emphasize that and
they get buy in on that and just the relationships
between the It still comes down to play in the
game and wanting to play for your coach. You the

(27:34):
money's nice, but I don't know that you're you're counting
your dollars as you're out there on the court trying
to play the game, win the game.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
You're still competitors.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
We're talking with Darryl Bird from the Cat's Pause, and
we'll continue our visit here in just a moment and
get into a couple of more of these topics that
Darryl has posted stories about at Catspaws dot com. It's
the Leads Report presented by Bob Catt Enterprises for locations
around Kentucky for Bob Katz. So when you need to
buy or rent have you equipment, Google Bobcat find the

(28:01):
location nearest to you. They'll have what you need and
they'll take great care of you after the sale or
after the rental agreement is executed. Bobcat Enterprises. We'll be
right back visiting with Daryl Bird from Katspaws dot com
at Daryl Bird on the X about his series of
stories out of the SEC meetings, and with Mark Pope,

(28:22):
who talked to you about thoughts on the replay system
that we have in college basketball versus a coaches challenge,
which he apparently favors.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Right, Oh my goodness, he's he's Johnny Appleseed.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
He I said, do you push it? He said, oh,
you everywhere I go.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
It's it's I learned. I just asked you flat out,
I said, do coaches hate the replay review as much
as fans and us.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
He said, yes, especially.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
The end of the game, the way it just grinds
everything to a halt. And he he wants the NBA version.
He wants the coaches challenge, where you get you get
one challenge, if you're right, you get another other. Otherwise,
he said, we go back to the old days of
the balls out of bounds, the ref points, you look
at the replayer like, oops, they got it wrong.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
You get mad.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
To add, better to have that than to have these
non these constant stoppages. And he took an interesting approach
which he typically does on everything, because we look at
it and we're like, come on, reff get off, get
your TV time, get out of here, and he's like,
he said, the challenge would take the onus.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Off the referee.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
He said, if I'm a referee in this day and age,
I review everything just to cover your butt. You have
to because you will get crushed if you don't. If
you don't review it and it's wrong, by your super.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Put it on the coaches.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Excuse me, by your supervisor, you who wants suit's going
to decide if you advance or not.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Exactly, he said, now put the coach put it in
a coaches challenge and they call out of bounds and
it's or whatever, and it gets You see it on
the big monitor above the scoreboard, and it's like, oop,
you got it wrong. The risks he had a challenge
he could have used. It ain't my fault that it
puts every bit of the responsibility on to the coaches

(30:07):
where it should be and takes the burden off the reverege.
I thought it was a really fascinating point. I hadn't
looked at it that way. Hedred percent right now.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
He did.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
At the very end, he said, I am I am
one hundred percent for this, and I will fight for it.
And we need it right now, he said, Bud, I
said what I want to flag?

Speaker 3 (30:26):
What he said?

Speaker 4 (30:27):
I want something I can chuck all the way across
the floor when it's when I want to challenge. I
don't want to just signal for it. I want to
throw something. Well, we'll work on that one, all right.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
I like the way he's thinking.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
He also is a strong advocate for playing more games.
He wants forty right, He's.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Been working on that for two years. I asked, mister
Barnard brought it up, he said, just since he got here,
and he's fine tuning it more and more, which I
first it was okay to play thirty one. Now, I said,
so you want to add nine sec games? He said, no,
absolutely not maybe two. He said, look at this broad
he said.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
He said, the NFL is pushing deeper.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
And deeper into our window in the in the winter.
That how about they let us have an exhibition two
weeks into camp. Yeah, in October, we have an exhibition
against a really good team that not only helps us,
it exposes our new team to our fan base, so

(31:28):
they have a month longer to learn who these guys are,
to see them. Let us have an exhibition two weeks
into camp, see what kind of gauge where everybody is,
and have some more exhibitions than add some non conference
he said. The way the crazy thing is now that
their window is so tight on home games that they're restricted.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
On a lot of what they're able to do.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
He said, you give us that, you give us forty,
then we can bring Mali back into the conversation and
the really cool places us and the fans would like
to go. It just opens up more. And they said,
you're only going to stretch the season a week, maybe two,
probably just a week if you just had to, you
pack it in a little tighter and just add maybe

(32:09):
maybe two conference games, maybe none, so we can make
it work. I said that, are you talking to other coaches?

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Said?

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Everywhere we go, I talked to coaches and I have
been and said and they're all said, every coach I've
talked to agrees, and they're all behind it. And he said, besides,
this isn't the.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Era of nil.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
These guys are making a lot of money. You may
want to get a little more out. You may want
to have forty games.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
You pre pointed out.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
The stupidity that that's still in plays like right now
in the summer, they're allowed to work what four hours
a week with coaches.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
That's it that A.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
They want to work more. B we're paying them. Why
wouldn't you want them to work more and get.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Rid of that? Let them, let them, let them do
their job.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
They're you know, absolutely right. I U Darryl, thank you
much interesting stuff, and fans can go get access to
this content at katzpause dot com and get more detail.
And Darryl's got more stories coming, so watch for that.
Thank you. Daryl is Darryl Bird Katzpause dot Com quick

(33:17):
Break and we'll come back and talk a little bit
about the big of a golf event. And for sales
this weekend, it's the Late Report presented by Bob Kat
Enterprises and joining us on the club Blue nil dot
com hotlines. Tom Shop he's the marketing director for the
Kentucky Golf Trail and he's doing the marketing for the
Woodford Legends Invitational coming up tomorrow and Sunday at Woodford
Club And for sales and Tom, fans are going to

(33:39):
see some of the top players in the history of
the LPGA Tour. Correct.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Yeah, we've got a great lineup. We you know, when
the when the fans get there to the course, there's
a program and list all of the golfers participating and
it's it's amazing the accomplishments that they've had over their career.
I know that you've been talking about some of those
over the past couple of weeks of you know, like

(34:04):
Lord Davies and Julie Inkster and and and so on
and so on, and these these ladies are just amazing
what they did for the game and and how they
really set it up for what we have today and
the LPGA and the wonderful women that are playing in
that now.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
I always think events like this are great if you
have a young person in your life that is into golf,
they can see some of the best players in that
have been in the game and see them in a
little more relaxed setting and get a little closer to
her than they could have a major tour event back
in the day.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
Yeah, I know, it's interesting about our event is you know,
we're not roping it off and and the the the
pros that are going to be out there are very
engaging and they're they're they're wonderful role models. It's it's
it's it's great to watch. I had the privilege to
play a few holes with a couple of them, and
I can tell you that they still have really strong
games and you can learn from them, you know, being

(35:05):
a high handicap like I am. I'm a fourteen now
and watching them hit and how they attack a hole
and you just you can learn a lot as well.
So it's good for the young folks to inspire them
and then for for for us older guys that want to,
you know, maybe get a few tips and improve our game.
It's it's a great chance to watch some really talented

(35:27):
folks play play the game.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
That we love.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Proceeds benefit KBC Kentucky. And how can our listeners get tickets?

Speaker 5 (35:36):
Yeah, so you can get them in advance at the
Woodford Clubfoundation dot org. There's a there's a tab on
that website that takes you right to where you can
buy tickets online or you can pick up tickets at
the gate. It's really family friendly, so seventeen and under
it's free, so bring out your kids or your grandkids.

(35:58):
It's only fifteen dollars for adults. Again, that all benefits
the nonprofit. And you know, so we'll have the on Saturday.
We'll have the first one hundred kids that show up
get a free hat, and we'll have some other games
and things for.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Kids that day.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
And then on Sunday we were having a first Responder
and Military Day, so anybody that is military or first
responder will get in free that day.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
This is at the Woodford Club inver Sales. It's tomorrow
and Sunday. Woodford Club Foundation dot Org is where you
get more information. Tom Thank you for the time and
best of luck with the weekend.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
Yeah, thank you, Tom, and thank you for helping us
get the word out about this.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
You're most welcome.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Man.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
It's a Tom Shop from the Kentucky Golf Trail, joining
us here on the Leach Report. This Day a Wildcat History.
Two thousand and seventeen. Star Mikayla Epps was born on
this day, So happy birthday to the daughter of former
Wildcats star point guard Anthony Epps. Mikayla age eighteen points
a game as a senior in twenty seventeen, thirty six

(37:03):
percent on threes, average, five rebounds, four assists, quite an
all around talent. Kentucky, Indiana High School All Star Game
coming up. Games coming up tonight at Lexington Catholic. You
can get there early for a meet and greet at
five and Malachi Moreno's playing wearing the number one jersey
as Kentucky Mister Basketball for the Kentucky All Stars. Guests

(37:27):
on the show come to give you the Club BLUEINIL
dot com hotline and go to Club Blueinil dot com
click on the kids tab to find out more about
their new initiative, Club Blue Kids for Youngsters in your
house to for totally free get some great perks like
exclusive event access, athlete experiences, meet and greets, and more.
It's Club Blue Kids. Sign up at Club blueinil dot com.

(37:51):
Have a great weekend. We'll see you on Monday for
the Leach Report.