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will join us to do a little of that quarterbacking
and we will break down the thirty twenty three loss
to the Old Miss Rebels and talk with Van about
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what it takes to get the Kentucky offense on track.
That's what's coming up today and we will get right
into the Wildcat news of the day. It is a
service of Giuseppes of Lexington, Kentucky Losers. It's sec opener
to follow the one and one on the season thirty
twenty three, in a game that you just left feeling
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like there was a game there for the taking and
the Wildcats couldn't get it done. They were up ten
to nothing early thanks to a couple of ty Bryant
interceptions that set them up in great field position, and
from there they couldn't keep the big plays from the
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old Miss side, like every one of ole Miss's scoring
drives had a play in it that went for twenty
or more yards. And then Kentucky still finding it hard
to create those explosive plays when it has the ball,
and that was one of the big differences in the game.
The real momentum shift came when Kentucky had ole Miss,
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I think at midfield and a fourth and about a
foot and they threw to their go to Guy Wallace,
the Penn State transfer on the outside, and Mark Stoop
said after the game, it's a play they were familiar
with that they ripped a lot during the week. Ole
Miss talked about how it's play that they like in
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that situation key when they need a key completion, and
they exec They out executed basically what it comes down to,
and they went for a fifty five yard game that
set up a short touchdown run and that is really
what kickstarted ole Miss. Kentucky was within seven in the
fourth quarter and twice failed on fourth down when they
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had the ball deep into Ole Miss territory. They had
a first down at the thirty on one of the
drives and at the twenty one on another one. Late
in the game, Zach Calzata gets his shoulder hurt. Cutter
Bowley came in led Kentucky on a late field goal
drive and sure sounded like after the game that Cutter
may get his chance to lead the Wildcats this week,
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and that may not necessarily just be because of Zach's injury.
Calzata has struggled in the passing game and the entire
offense has to be fair to him, So maybe Cutter
Bowley gets his chance this week. Mark Mark Stoops will
be talking about all of that coming up today at
his game week news conference, and then the radio show
is Wildcats go outside the conference again and they will
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take on Eastern Michigan, a team that comes off a
loss to Long Island out of the FCS level. So
Eastern Michigan is struggling and zero to two and Kentucky
will be a big favorite to get back above five hundred.
Comes Saturday. We will talk about all of this with
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Van Hiles. A couple of other quick notes. Blue Rebin
College Basketball Yearbook our friend Chris Dertch. They have released
their digital version of the magazine. Printed version will be
out next week. If you're a subscriber and you go
that route, Chris is top twenty five. And I guess
I assume it's Chris and his team, or maybe it's
just him. We'll get him on here soon to talk
about this, but he has Florida number one, the defending
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national champs, Purdue, Houston, Duke, and Yukon rounding out the
top five. Saint John's at six, then Tennessee, the Wildcats
of Kentucky at number eight, Michigan and Louisville rounding out
the top ten. Alabama eleven, Auburn thirteen, Arkansas fifteen, Texas
twenty four. So that's seven SEC teams among the Blue
Ribbon College Basketball Yearbook's Top twenty five in the preseason.
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And you remember him as a Wildcat defensive back. He
played in the NFL and you hear him here on
our shuffle being coffee Monday morning quarterback shows during the
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football season, and Van you probably got just a wee
bit frustrated. I'm guessing on Saturday. I know how you
former players are. I work with one every Saturday, and
you hear those sounds. Every probably heard a few sounds
from you.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, and and and I'm glad I'm at home because
I can use the the the good words that doesn't
really care for exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
So so for me, it was awesome. Now I was.
I was. I normally don't get frustrated. I really don't,
because it's a it's a game. It's a game that
you should not lose sleepover. But when when you see
the performance and see what could have been, had my my,
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my level of confusion has gotten clear. I can see that,
but it's still confusion. And and man, it's it's frustrating
for everyone because even though the defense played well, the
defense could have played better, and the offense had plays there.
This is the frustrating part of the offense has had
plays there two years in a row and for some reason,
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two weeks no, two years in a row, okay, okay,
two years in a row. Players that take the snap
from un the center or for some reason unable to
find open guys.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Uh, this is probably going to be a situation where
we'll see another guy get a chance under center this week,
And certainly sounded that way from how Mark Stoops talked
in his postgame news conference and on the radio show
that he wants to see Cutter basically, I think is
exactly is pretty much what he said, if not exactly,
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and that means if goals on his shoulder, is good
to go or not? I think we're so sure. Sounded
like we're going to see a different guy get a chance.
So the opportunity is, you know, the job certainly there
for somebody to seize the opportunity. And uh, you Cutter
got a lot of praise in the in the lead
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up to the season. We saw him a little bit
last year. I saw him on the last couple of
drives there on Saturday. What's not happening right now at
that position?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
As you say it it is. It is a level
of comfort, and I can speak from experience that when
you I had a new coordinator come in my senior year,
great guy. Loved him still to this day. But when
he first got there, we didn't see the game the
same way, and it took some games to finally get there.
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We ran the same play early in the season, I
didn't go to the right guy. Late in the season,
I understood what he wanted and I understood the scheme,
and I got a level of comfort with him, so
I was able to find the open guy I was
a three years started that quarterback. It's the same thing
with Zach comes out and the same thing happened with
Brock last year is they don't see the game. The
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game isn't clear, the picture isn't clear for them because
of their level of comfort with the scheme, and they
are missing guys that are open. And I think now
with Utter being in the system two years, I think
he has a chance to get comfort with this scheme
fastening anybody else. I think it was a thing where
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coach Stut's had a bad year and he needed a
guy that he could trust early and he thought he
could get an experienced guy to do that. This experienced
guy isn't right for this system at this point, and
we don't have time for him to get comfortable with
it because of where we are. If we didn't have
before they season, maybe different. But now he's got to
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make a change.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
And it sounds like because there was some question after
the first game, you know, is it receivers not getting open,
not getting separation, But you're seeing some guys getting open
that their opportunities missed, right for sure?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Now that is true too. That's not false situation where
receivers I get open, but there is a high level
of situations where we are scheming guys open or the
route concepts are getting guys open and we're not throwing
it to him. There was an opportunity going in the
end zone when we kicked the field goal after tires
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second interception where I'm not saying we score, but we
wouldn't have gotten that sack because there were three guys
open on that place, like sec wide open and he
couldn't pull the trigger. And it's confusing, and I'm gonna
have to calm down this leak. It was confusing because
it was right in front of him, So I don't
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know what he's seen because the window was there, the
pass right now was there. If he was scared of
a rust, of fear of a rust on like you
worth scared, he was concerned with potentially a rust coming
to him quickly. There was a quick outlet available, and
there was two guys right in front of him that
were open that he did not throw to. And it's
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confusing from my standpoint because why did you not? Because
the concept is simple and he didn't execute the concept.
And that's concerning because he's played his football football game
long enough where that concept should have been the easiest
one for him to pull the trigger. So that means
to me he's not comfortable in the system and the scheme.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
One thing that Jeff Picoro in our broadcast wondered about
is why and this is something we'll see if cutters
better at this, why Zach maybe leaks out of the
pocket sometimes as a first option rather than stepping up
into a pocket to buy a little extra time to
find those open guys.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah, and that's yes. And that's shocking to me because
he's never exhibited that that that ever, and what I've
seen in film even at TEXTA, A and M and
definitely not UI W. So it's confused. So that is
another thing of him being uncomfortable. It's the little stuff.
It's first down, the pass of Hardy Gilmore that he
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actually competed, that was in a bunch round. If he
stays in the pocket and throws that on time. With
the cornerback plan, the outside receiver doesn't see the ball release.
If he throws it on time, Hardy Gilmore probably scores.
Like those little things are things that you missed. The
timing is so important. If you missed the timing, you
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missed the potential of a bigger play. Not only did
he miss the timing, he threw him down on the
ground so he couldn't get a chance to get some
yacks after that catch. Like, those things are frustrating, and
it's really frustrating for me because people are complaining about
the wrong person in terms of the receivers, in terms
of the coach.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Oh okay, so the opportunities are there being created and
they're not executing. I think coach Hampden talked in week one,
excuse me that Zach was hesitating. You know, somebody would
come open. So you sounds like you see that too.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
It definitely, And there's a difference between because sometimes this
is I'm gonna put myself in the zack shoes. Sometimes
come into a new situation knowing that this organization, this
program plays a certain way. We don't want the offense
to make mistakes, so sometimes you are not. You don't
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want to let it rip all the time. But the
hesitation is shouldn't happen because when you see a guy open,
you should throw the ball. There are certain things where,
like you talked about earlier, maybe receivers are not open.
Maybe at ui W, I give my receiver a chance
because it's a tight window, or there's a chance of
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getting interception because of there's no separation by the receiver.
That I understand. But when the windows and the picture
is clear as today and you're hesitating more than once
on the same route concept when both guys are open,
that's confounding.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
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Speaker 3 (14:37):
A pm Eastern Standard time. If you can hear the
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Speaker 1 (14:51):
Here quick break, we'll come right back more with Van
in just a moment. This is the Leach Report Radio
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we are chatting with Van Hiles on our shuffle being
Coffee Monday Morning Quarterback Show and Van, I don't know
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if you follow Thurberd racing at all, but here there's
a track running right now down in the western part
of the state called Kentucky Downs, and it's an undulating
course and an odd layout, and for whatever reason, some
horses run really well there, and if they do, they'll
come back and run well again. So if I'm looking
at those races and try to pick winners, I can
look at that and I can see that horse likes
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that track. I could spend an hour trying to figure
out why he likes it, or I can just accept
that he does like it and move on from there.
And so it's kind of like there's a lot of
things you can go through with, you know, a quarterback struggling,
but at some point you just accept that he's struggling
and you either have to coach him up or use
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another option if you have one. And so it seems
like we may get that other option this week with
and I will say, in fairness to Zach, you know,
it could be that he's pressing and he's overthinking and
he's afraid to make mistakes. Whatever it might be. But
but needless to say, the struggle is there. So if
it is Cutter, what do you see in Cutter that
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would give you optimism that he it could be better?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Well, it's it's all above with Zach. And honestly, Cutter
kind of had the same issues that Zach had. He
missed a guy or two too, so it's not all
Zach's fault. But there's a higher upside with Cutter. And
my biggest my biggest thing is this, I think if
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we didn't go four and eight last year, I don't
think Stoop springs in a starting portal guy. He brings
in a portal guy that will act as a backup,
kind of like Sardius Smith for Terry Wilson, but since
we went four and eight, he had to go a
different direction. What I like about Cutter is if, and
this is the thing. Cutter has to do his job
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this week, and Eastern Michigan isn't very good. They lost
to an iced tea brand last week Long Island University,
so they're not a very good team. If Cutter wants
the keys to the program, he has to perform this week,
because if he doesn't perform this week, I'm not sure
when he will perform. So if he does what he's
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supposed to do, he has a higher ceiling. He can
be a three year starter for us, which is something
that can propel this program to another chance of being
good and potentially win games. May we wanted twenty eighteen
in twenty twenty one. I don't want to say the
number because I don't want to jinxus, but a three
year starter is why Alabama became Alabama when AJ McCann
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took up a quarterback spot, Because now you've got a
guy whom you know what he's gonna do for three
straight years, and now that's something you don't have to
worry about. Now you can build a team around him
and I hope Cutter and take the reins of this
program this week and shut the door on potentially have
a quarterback battle and now he could be the starter
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the rest of the season.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
With chat with Van Hiles, and we will continue doing that.
We'll we come right back as we're coming up on
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Speaker 4 (18:22):
Certainly, let's just look at it the way it is.
I mean, he's banged up. I don't know to what extent.
I would think he would more than likely miss you know,
Monday or Tuesday, I would think, But you know I
want to see Cutter. Yeah, I don't want to see him.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
That was Mark Stops after the game on Saturday. It's
our shuffling coffee Monday morning quarterback edition of the Leach
Reporters were chatting with Van Hiles and spending most of
the time so far talking about that QB position. Cutter
last year came in in a relief roll down at
number four Texas and he was ten of eighteen for
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one hundred and sixty yards. It's averaged eight point nine
per attempt, no touchdowns. One interception, and you know, he
came in at a time when Texas had the game
in control, So off of that and with Vandergrist struggling,
Cutter got the start in the finale against Louisville. He
was six of fifteen for forty eight yards two interceptions,
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So it seems like he is now. To be fair
to him, you know, it's his first time as a
first year as a college quarterback, and he got the
number one reps for the first time that last week,
So now likely it seems like finding himself back in
that situation where not so much that he came in
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and made a big splash on Saturday, but that he's
moving into the starting role. And if that is indeed
the case, what does he need to learn from the
first experience to make it better this time and keep
the job.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, it's a lot. I can't imagine as a quarterback
a freshman, my first game starting is against the cross
town rival. I can't imagine that. So all the anxiety,
the nervousness that you normally get anyway for your first start,
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I'm sure what's times one hundred. So I think just
the level of comfort in the system will make it
so much better. The thing about quarterback is, even though
the quarterback gets all the glory and praise and all
the criticism when we lose, is that it's still a
team game, the best team sport in all the sports.
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The guys around him still has to perform. And the
great thing about this year is the old line is
much better. So that's a concern that should be wiped
from his brain of am I going to have enough time? Now?
The concern is to prepare like you have never prepared
for four and to get yourself in a situation where
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let me get my feet wet and comfortable against a
team and it's the mission. So I can build my
confidence for when we have to go to Columbia. Because
if he can build that confidence and efficiency in the
offense in the operation, I'm not even worried about the
numbers because the numbers should not be gaudy because he
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should not have to pass the ball that much. But
whatever we do, be efficient in the operation, be comfortable
in operation, and be confident in when you throw the ball.
If he hits those three, we will be fine.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Late in the training camp, it was Tuesday, which is
for the Meadya to cover practice. That's offensive interview day. Yeah,
that's when Bush Hampden talks and then they have some
players talk to the media and so Bush goes to
the podium first, and so all the media are gathered
around there and I'm after watching practice and sitting on
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a bench waiting to catch some of the players, and
Cutter and a couple of the players came over and
just sat down while they were waiting, and so I
was talking to Cutter, Uh, just just chatting and he said,
how you how you do it? Has this gone for you?
And uh, he said, it's really gone. Well, he said,
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I'm remembering why I really love football, and I really
feel good about this. So that's the guy that that
sounds good. Now, you got to put that into practice
between the white lines. But that's what you want to
hear of a young guy. Maybe you know a lot's
going through his head, and you talk about the game
slowing down. That's hopefully for a quarterback what you want
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to want to see, right.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yes, and and that's not It sounds awkward, but it
is that because when you come from he was a
great high school quarterback, and when you come for a
situation where when you're in a in a high school
where you're the best athlete on the team, or the
best quarterback or whatever it is, and you come to college.
All college athletes get to this point of man, it
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is really a job. Like I not everybody in school
loves me. When you're in high school. Everybody knows who
you are when you're the star athlete. Now it's a
little different, and it does take some time to realize, now,
why am I really playing this sport? And if you
love it, you get that love again. And it's tough
man playing a quarterback position when there's only one ball
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and only one guy can start, and when you might
think you're better than a guy in front of you
and you don't get that chance, Well, now it's your chance.
And he's comfortable. I think he knows the game, the system.
The game isn't different, it's just the system. Can you
learn the verbiage? Can you learn the roight concepts? Those things?
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Can you get in sync with the wide receivers? I
think he feels at that level at that time you
asked him. I think he's like, oh, now, now I'm
at the point where I don't have to overthink and
I don't have to press. I feel comfortable in my
own skin now because I've been here a year. I
know the coordinator and I know the scheme. So I
think that's what he was experienced at that moment, because
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it does hit you. It hits you at a moment
like man, everything is just like you're just going through
the motions, so to speak. And I was saying like, Okay,
now I get it, and now he gets in. Hopefully
he shows this on Saturday, because we need him to
show it on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
In two thousand and six, Rich Brooks was trying to
decide who is going to be his quarterback, Andre Woodson
or Curtis Pulley, and he ended up going with Woodson.
But when I did the book with Coach Brooks, he
several years later he said, we're looking back at that
really career or not career, but uh era turning season
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for the rich Brooks era that two thousand and six
year led by Andre Woodson. Rich said it wasn't until
the in that opener against Louisville in which they were
blown out that he said he really knew he made
the right decision because he saw how Andre kept getting
to hit, kept getting kept getting up and making plays
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and then Andre went on to do great things. I
say that as a lead up to you look for things,
and so you can tell me if there's maybe if
this was significant. On that last drive where they end
up getting a field goal, to try to get a
shot at a miracle, he has to step up and
deliver a dart into a bull's eye if you think
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of a dart board, because it's a small window that
he had to hit to throw it and make a
long completion to Harley Gilmore that's set up the field
goal and hardly goes up and makes it, you know,
a contested catch, but that's the kind of play you
need to see. You can you know, most quarterbacks can
hit the guy that's wide open at this level against
the defensive backs you're facing, can you throw that ball consistently?
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And was that significant for you?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
What was significant for me is and I remember to
play if not even a throw, it was a fact
he stepped up in the pocket like that. That was
the most important thing for me is that he knew
And I'm not gonna get into the to the to
the to the weeds of it, but the fact of
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the old linement. A lot of times gets gets criticized
because of the errors of quarterbacks and the fact that
he gave us old line of chance to give him
some more time by trusting that they're gonna do this job,
and now he trusts to give more to be able
to go up and make that catch, Like that's the
thing that's most like. The results are the results, but
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the process and the procedure to get to the results
are the most important thing. And he showed that more consistently,
and it's fewer tips than than than Zac did. Even
the mispass to the tight end in the corner the
end zone. Even though the results were not what we
on it of what he would have liked, the fact
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that he do it to the right guy is a
step and a big step, and hopefully he can continue
to make those steps because at least he's throwing it
to the right people and seeing guys potentially getting open
and throwing guys open. With time, he was able to
make that connection. The next time he sees that he's tried,
going to throw it up all a little bit better
and a titand is going to score that touchdown. But
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the fact that he threw it to him and through
it kind of on time, says a lot Well.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
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Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yeah, it's really inexcusable to be totally also with you.
There's things where we are trying to get the best
personnel we can with certain plays and certain things, and
you know, we've got to be better. I think we're
trying to do too much with matching personnel and change
and some people out. We talked about that at halftime,
cleaned that up, and we had a discussion with the
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offensive staff and got that wrecked final.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
That was Mark Stoops after the game, and what he
was talking about was that ugly messie embarrassing first half
of burning three timeouts for issues where they couldn't get
either the right players out there or get them lined
up properly. And then on the last drive where they
were in a position to maybe try a field goal
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to tack on three points at the end of the half,
they ended up having some of the same issues. They
had no timeouts to correct them. They ended up getting penalties.
It was all very ugly.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Van And.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
What did you see you hear that from Mark Stoops?
Is that some thing that comes from just trying to
do too much to out scheme when you can't out athlete.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Exactly. And it is it's a problem when I had
to break down timeouts, like who break down time outs?
Like why we really? Here's here's a situation I think
Bush is. It's not trying to do too much. He's
trying to make a perfect call, and there's no such
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thing as a perfect call, like even and and me
as Stoops, I'm really upset that the first time out
because if you look at the timeout, he decided to
go forward early early, at least with thirty five seconds
left on the play clock, which means that's immediate because
the play clock starts right when the ball is dead,
so he made that decision early, so there's no reason
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why we couldn't have gotten on the field. I'm gonna
say with that timeout there, and I've been in this
situation that could have been a player of timeout too,
because when you are sub and personnel, since we run
so much personnel, everybody's supposed to be around the coach
who says a personnel grouping. And when Daldo went out,
no one came back in, which means someone was not
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paying attention. And when in a key spot of the game,
was not paying attention to get his himself back on
the field, he might not ever play again. And the
second time out going towards the end zone with I
think it's two minutes left in the first quarter, that's
on Bush. We had the call and he saw what
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the defense alignment was and he tried to check out
of it with like ten seconds left on the play clock.
Bush is too late. Ride with your call, Trust your
players that they're going to execute as best as they can.
That was on him because he tried to make a
perfect call in that situation, and there is really no
such thing as a perfect call. You have to live
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and die with the original call. Mike Marshton allows he
has to go call Mike Martz and get his ego
to say, I'm just gonna make a call. We're just
gonna stick with it.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Defensively, Uh, Kentucky did some good things again, but they
gave up a twenty plus yard play on every one
of Ole Missus scoring drives. They've given up I think
twelve in the first two games. And uh, not typical
of Brad White's defenses. They're doing a lot of things
that that are typical. That one's not what are you seeing?
(31:29):
What needs to change there on on?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
In this game today? If we knew, if we remember
last year, is we made tackles on the perimeter. In
this game, we didn't make tackles on the perimeter. That's
really the difference in the game is that. And it's
almost a carbon copy. Last year, All Miss scored on
a fourth down play. This game, they almost scored on
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a fourth down play, but the guys on the perimeter
did not make tackles. And I said last week that
if we if we prevent big plays and make Ole
miss grind out drives, I feel good about the team.
We didn't make them continually grind out plays because we
gave up big plays and reduced them out first down
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that they have to convert, and that was the big difference.
The big difference was even on a couple of run plays,
is the miss tackles. Miss tackles was the calling card
for Old Miss success offensively US missing tackles continually.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Coming into this season. I don't know how you were
looking at my thought. People woul ask you what you
think this season. I said, I think they're going to
be in a lot of one score games in the
fourth quarter. I think there's three games they'll be favored in.
I think there's two there'll be a big underdog, which
would be Georgia and Texas, and I think every other
game could well be a one score game in the
fourth quarter. So felt good that that's what this was.
(32:51):
And the thinking was, if you're if I'm right about that,
and there are potentially seven of those, you gotta find
a way to win U you know, at least three
if not for those, to have the you know, minimum
level of success you want for your season, which would
be to get back to a Bowl game. And they
didn't make those plays in this game. They'll get another
chance in two weeks down at South Carolina, and I
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think more chances after that. So do you kind of
see it similarly?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, I mean that's all calling card. In one, we
won all the close games. That's that's how we play.
We don't have We are the thirteenth best talent team
in the conference. If you look at recruiting consistently, we
finished about eleven twelve, thirteen, So we're not gonna beat
team with better players consistently. We have good players. It's
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not to say we don't have a handful of great players,
but consistently, talent wise, we're not in the top third
of the conference. But therefore we have our marginal error
is really thin, and we have to execute and perform
at the highest level and do the little things, which
is why are you gonna win close games? That was
Vanderbilt's calling card last year. They want all we got
(34:06):
to get back to how we were three twenty twenty
two and win all of the ones score games, or
at least the majority of them. If we do that,
we can get to six, potentially seven wins. But we
have to win these close games, and defensively, even though
we played well enough, we didn't do we like I
play defense the unit did not too well enough and
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key situations to make win a close game easier. We
cannot give up touchdowns after the offense scores. You got
to come on the field and stop them. Those are
backbreaking situations. When you score offensively, then they go back
and score. That's a net zero that cannot happen consistently,
and it happened too much in this game, Van Heiles.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Van Hiles, it's at v Styles seventeen and on Wednesday
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a pleasure and always appreciate the insight and enjoy the
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games your bears are playing on Monday night football. We're
gonna get a win.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I I hope, So, I hope. So if we're not
two and one next week, Miss, at least don't call me.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I understand, It'll go to voicemail. Thank you, Van. We'll
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Leach Report, and Van Hiles, the former Wildcat defensive back,
will join us to do a little of that quarterbacking
and we will break down the thirty twenty three loss
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That's what's coming up today and we will get right
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service of Giuseppes of Lexington, Kentucky Losers. It's sec opener
to follow the one and one on the season thirty
twenty three, in a game that you just left feeling
(01:06):
like there was a game there for the taking and
the Wildcats couldn't get it done. They were up ten
to nothing early thanks to a couple of ty Bryant
interceptions that set them up in great field position, and
from there they couldn't keep the big plays from the
(01:26):
old Miss side, like every one of ole Miss's scoring
drives had a play in it that went for twenty
or more yards. And then Kentucky still finding it hard
to create those explosive plays when it has the ball,
and that was one of the big differences in the game.
The real momentum shift came when Kentucky had ole Miss,
(01:47):
I think at midfield and a fourth and about a
foot and they threw to their go to Guy Wallace,
the Penn State transfer on the outside, and Mark Stoop
said after the game, it's a play they were familiar
with that they ripped a lot during the week. Ole
Miss talked about how it's play that they like in
(02:09):
that situation key when they need a key completion, and
they exec They out executed basically what it comes down to,
and they went for a fifty five yard game that
set up a short touchdown run and that is really
what kickstarted ole Miss. Kentucky was within seven in the
fourth quarter and twice failed on fourth down when they
(02:30):
had the ball deep into Ole Miss territory. They had
a first down at the thirty on one of the
drives and at the twenty one on another one. Late
in the game, Zach Calzata gets his shoulder hurt. Cutter
Bowley came in led Kentucky on a late field goal
drive and sure sounded like after the game that Cutter
may get his chance to lead the Wildcats this week,
(02:54):
and that may not necessarily just be because of Zach's injury.
Calzata has struggled in the passing game and the entire
offense has to be fair to him, So maybe Cutter
Bowley gets his chance this week. Mark Mark Stoops will
be talking about all of that coming up today at
his game week news conference, and then the radio show
is Wildcats go outside the conference again and they will
(03:18):
take on Eastern Michigan, a team that comes off a
loss to Long Island out of the FCS level. So
Eastern Michigan is struggling and zero to two and Kentucky
will be a big favorite to get back above five hundred.
Comes Saturday. We will talk about all of this with
(03:38):
Van Hiles. A couple of other quick notes. Blue Rebin
College Basketball Yearbook our friend Chris Dertch. They have released
their digital version of the magazine. Printed version will be
out next week. If you're a subscriber and you go
that route, Chris is top twenty five. And I guess
I assume it's Chris and his team, or maybe it's
just him. We'll get him on here soon to talk
about this, but he has Florida number one, the defending
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national champs, Purdue, Houston, Duke, and Yukon rounding out the
top five. Saint John's at six, then Tennessee, the Wildcats
of Kentucky at number eight, Michigan and Louisville rounding out
the top ten. Alabama eleven, Auburn thirteen, Arkansas fifteen, Texas
twenty four. So that's seven SEC teams among the Blue
Ribbon College Basketball Yearbook's Top twenty five in the preseason.
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And you remember him as a Wildcat defensive back. He
played in the NFL and you hear him here on
our shuffle being coffee Monday morning quarterback shows during the
(05:48):
football season, and Van you probably got just a wee
bit frustrated. I'm guessing on Saturday. I know how you
former players are. I work with one every Saturday, and
you hear those sounds. Every probably heard a few sounds
from you.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, and and and I'm glad I'm at home because
I can use the the the good words that doesn't
really care for exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
So so for me, it was awesome. Now I was.
I was. I normally don't get frustrated. I really don't,
because it's a it's a game. It's a game that
you should not lose sleepover. But when when you see
the performance and see what could have been, had my my,
(06:42):
my level of confusion has gotten clear. I can see that,
but it's still confusion. And and man, it's it's frustrating
for everyone because even though the defense played well, the
defense could have played better, and the offense had plays there.
This is the frustrating part of the offense has had
plays there two years in a row and for some reason,
(07:06):
two weeks no, two years in a row, okay, okay,
two years in a row. Players that take the snap
from un the center or for some reason unable to
find open guys.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Uh, this is probably going to be a situation where
we'll see another guy get a chance under center this week,
And certainly sounded that way from how Mark Stoops talked
in his postgame news conference and on the radio show
that he wants to see Cutter basically, I think is
exactly is pretty much what he said, if not exactly,
(07:41):
and that means if goals on his shoulder, is good
to go or not? I think we're so sure. Sounded
like we're going to see a different guy get a chance.
So the opportunity is, you know, the job certainly there
for somebody to seize the opportunity. And uh, you Cutter
got a lot of praise in the in the lead
(08:02):
up to the season. We saw him a little bit
last year. I saw him on the last couple of
drives there on Saturday. What's not happening right now at
that position?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
As you say it it is. It is a level
of comfort, and I can speak from experience that when
you I had a new coordinator come in my senior year,
great guy. Loved him still to this day. But when
he first got there, we didn't see the game the
same way, and it took some games to finally get there.
(08:36):
We ran the same play early in the season, I
didn't go to the right guy. Late in the season,
I understood what he wanted and I understood the scheme,
and I got a level of comfort with him, so
I was able to find the open guy I was
a three years started that quarterback. It's the same thing
with Zach comes out and the same thing happened with
Brock last year is they don't see the game. The
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game isn't clear, the picture isn't clear for them because
of their level of comfort with the scheme, and they
are missing guys that are open. And I think now
with Utter being in the system two years, I think
he has a chance to get comfort with this scheme
fastening anybody else. I think it was a thing where
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coach Stut's had a bad year and he needed a
guy that he could trust early and he thought he
could get an experienced guy to do that. This experienced
guy isn't right for this system at this point, and
we don't have time for him to get comfortable with
it because of where we are. If we didn't have
before they season, maybe different. But now he's got to
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make a change.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
And it sounds like because there was some question after
the first game, you know, is it receivers not getting open,
not getting separation, But you're seeing some guys getting open
that their opportunities missed, right for sure?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Now that is true too. That's not false situation where
receivers I get open, but there is a high level
of situations where we are scheming guys open or the
route concepts are getting guys open and we're not throwing
it to him. There was an opportunity going in the
end zone when we kicked the field goal after tires
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second interception where I'm not saying we score, but we
wouldn't have gotten that sack because there were three guys
open on that place, like sec wide open and he
couldn't pull the trigger. And it's confusing, and I'm gonna
have to calm down this leak. It was confusing because
it was right in front of him, So I don't
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know what he's seen because the window was there, the
pass right now was there. If he was scared of
a rust, of fear of a rust on like you
worth scared, he was concerned with potentially a rust coming
to him quickly. There was a quick outlet available, and
there was two guys right in front of him that
were open that he did not throw to. And it's
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confusing from my standpoint because why did you not? Because
the concept is simple and he didn't execute the concept.
And that's concerning because he's played his football football game
long enough where that concept should have been the easiest
one for him to pull the trigger. So that means
to me he's not comfortable in the system and the scheme.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
One thing that Jeff Picoro in our broadcast wondered about
is why and this is something we'll see if cutters
better at this, why Zach maybe leaks out of the
pocket sometimes as a first option rather than stepping up
into a pocket to buy a little extra time to
find those open guys.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah, and that's yes. And that's shocking to me because
he's never exhibited that that that ever, and what I've
seen in film even at TEXTA, A and M and
definitely not UI W. So it's confused. So that is
another thing of him being uncomfortable. It's the little stuff.
It's first down, the pass of Hardy Gilmore that he
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actually competed, that was in a bunch round. If he
stays in the pocket and throws that on time. With
the cornerback plan, the outside receiver doesn't see the ball release.
If he throws it on time, Hardy Gilmore probably scores.
Like those little things are things that you missed. The
timing is so important. If you missed the timing, you
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missed the potential of a bigger play. Not only did
he miss the timing, he threw him down on the
ground so he couldn't get a chance to get some
yacks after that catch. Like, those things are frustrating, and
it's really frustrating for me because people are complaining about
the wrong person in terms of the receivers, in terms
of the coach.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Oh okay, so the opportunities are there being created and
they're not executing. I think coach Hampden talked in week one,
excuse me that Zach was hesitating. You know, somebody would
come open. So you sounds like you see that too.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
It definitely, And there's a difference between because sometimes this
is I'm gonna put myself in the zack shoes. Sometimes
come into a new situation knowing that this organization, this
program plays a certain way. We don't want the offense
to make mistakes, so sometimes you are not. You don't
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want to let it rip all the time. But the
hesitation is shouldn't happen because when you see a guy open,
you should throw the ball. There are certain things where,
like you talked about earlier, maybe receivers are not open.
Maybe at ui W, I give my receiver a chance
because it's a tight window, or there's a chance of
(13:44):
getting interception because of there's no separation by the receiver.
That I understand. But when the windows and the picture
is clear as today and you're hesitating more than once
on the same route concept when both guys are open,
that's confounding.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
We're talking with Van Hiles. It's at V Style seventeen
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go to see the cutups that Van does of plays
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can hear him here on Mondays on Our Shuffle Being Coffee,
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(14:26):
his teammate from the mid nineties, Anthony White, they do
a show on social media called The Locker that's Wednesday
nights at nine right on YouTube and other social media platforms.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
A pm Eastern Standard time. If you can hear the
frustration on my voice now, you will be able to
see it on Wednesday. And I promise you it's going
to be a lovely show. I promise you doing in
Wednesday on YouTube on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Here quick break, we'll come right back more with Van
in just a moment. This is the Leach Report Radio
Network presented by Bobcat Enterprises. It's the Lead Report, and
we are chatting with Van Hiles on our shuffle being
Coffee Monday Morning Quarterback Show and Van, I don't know
(15:13):
if you follow Thurberd racing at all, but here there's
a track running right now down in the western part
of the state called Kentucky Downs, and it's an undulating
course and an odd layout, and for whatever reason, some
horses run really well there, and if they do, they'll
come back and run well again. So if I'm looking
at those races and try to pick winners, I can
look at that and I can see that horse likes
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that track. I could spend an hour trying to figure
out why he likes it, or I can just accept
that he does like it and move on from there.
And so it's kind of like there's a lot of
things you can go through with, you know, a quarterback struggling,
but at some point you just accept that he's struggling
and you either have to coach him up or use
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another option if you have one. And so it seems
like we may get that other option this week with
and I will say, in fairness to Zach, you know,
it could be that he's pressing and he's overthinking and
he's afraid to make mistakes. Whatever it might be. But
but needless to say, the struggle is there. So if
it is Cutter, what do you see in Cutter that
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would give you optimism that he it could be better?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Well, it's it's all above with Zach. And honestly, Cutter
kind of had the same issues that Zach had. He
missed a guy or two too, so it's not all
Zach's fault. But there's a higher upside with Cutter. And
my biggest my biggest thing is this, I think if
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we didn't go four and eight last year, I don't
think Stoop springs in a starting portal guy. He brings
in a portal guy that will act as a backup,
kind of like Sardius Smith for Terry Wilson, but since
we went four and eight, he had to go a
different direction. What I like about Cutter is if, and
this is the thing. Cutter has to do his job
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this week, and Eastern Michigan isn't very good. They lost
to an iced tea brand last week Long Island University,
so they're not a very good team. If Cutter wants
the keys to the program, he has to perform this week,
because if he doesn't perform this week, I'm not sure
when he will perform. So if he does what he's
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supposed to do, he has a higher ceiling. He can
be a three year starter for us, which is something
that can propel this program to another chance of being
good and potentially win games. May we wanted twenty eighteen
in twenty twenty one. I don't want to say the
number because I don't want to jinxus, but a three
year starter is why Alabama became Alabama when AJ McCann
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took up a quarterback spot, Because now you've got a
guy whom you know what he's gonna do for three
straight years, and now that's something you don't have to
worry about. Now you can build a team around him
and I hope Cutter and take the reins of this
program this week and shut the door on potentially have
a quarterback battle and now he could be the starter
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the rest of the season.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
With chat with Van Hiles, and we will continue doing that.
We'll we come right back as we're coming up on
the heartbreak at the bottom of the hour. It is
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Speaker 4 (18:22):
Certainly, let's just look at it the way it is.
I mean, he's banged up. I don't know to what extent.
I would think he would more than likely miss you know,
Monday or Tuesday, I would think, But you know I
want to see Cutter. Yeah, I don't want to see him.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
That was Mark Stops after the game on Saturday. It's
our shuffling coffee Monday morning quarterback edition of the Leach
Reporters were chatting with Van Hiles and spending most of
the time so far talking about that QB position. Cutter
last year came in in a relief roll down at
number four Texas and he was ten of eighteen for
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one hundred and sixty yards. It's averaged eight point nine
per attempt, no touchdowns. One interception, and you know, he
came in at a time when Texas had the game
in control, So off of that and with Vandergrist struggling,
Cutter got the start in the finale against Louisville. He
was six of fifteen for forty eight yards two interceptions,
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So it seems like he is now. To be fair
to him, you know, it's his first time as a
first year as a college quarterback, and he got the
number one reps for the first time that last week,
So now likely it seems like finding himself back in
that situation where not so much that he came in
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and made a big splash on Saturday, but that he's
moving into the starting role. And if that is indeed
the case, what does he need to learn from the
first experience to make it better this time and keep
the job.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, it's a lot. I can't imagine as a quarterback
a freshman, my first game starting is against the cross
town rival. I can't imagine that. So all the anxiety,
the nervousness that you normally get anyway for your first start,
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I'm sure what's times one hundred. So I think just
the level of comfort in the system will make it
so much better. The thing about quarterback is, even though
the quarterback gets all the glory and praise and all
the criticism when we lose, is that it's still a
team game, the best team sport in all the sports.
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The guys around him still has to perform. And the
great thing about this year is the old line is
much better. So that's a concern that should be wiped
from his brain of am I going to have enough time? Now?
The concern is to prepare like you have never prepared
for four and to get yourself in a situation where
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let me get my feet wet and comfortable against a
team and it's the mission. So I can build my
confidence for when we have to go to Columbia. Because
if he can build that confidence and efficiency in the
offense in the operation, I'm not even worried about the
numbers because the numbers should not be gaudy because he
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should not have to pass the ball that much. But
whatever we do, be efficient in the operation, be comfortable
in operation, and be confident in when you throw the ball.
If he hits those three, we will be fine.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Late in the training camp, it was Tuesday, which is
for the Meadya to cover practice. That's offensive interview day. Yeah,
that's when Bush Hampden talks and then they have some
players talk to the media and so Bush goes to
the podium first, and so all the media are gathered
around there and I'm after watching practice and sitting on
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a bench waiting to catch some of the players, and
Cutter and a couple of the players came over and
just sat down while they were waiting, and so I
was talking to Cutter, Uh, just just chatting and he said,
how you how you do it? Has this gone for you?
And uh, he said, it's really gone. Well, he said,
(22:22):
I'm remembering why I really love football, and I really
feel good about this. So that's the guy that that
sounds good. Now, you got to put that into practice
between the white lines. But that's what you want to
hear of a young guy. Maybe you know a lot's
going through his head, and you talk about the game
slowing down. That's hopefully for a quarterback what you want
(22:44):
to want to see, right.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yes, and and that's not It sounds awkward, but it
is that because when you come from he was a
great high school quarterback, and when you come for a
situation where when you're in a in a high school
where you're the best athlete on the team, or the
best quarterback or whatever it is, and you come to college.
All college athletes get to this point of man, it
(23:10):
is really a job. Like I not everybody in school
loves me. When you're in high school. Everybody knows who
you are when you're the star athlete. Now it's a
little different, and it does take some time to realize, now,
why am I really playing this sport? And if you
love it, you get that love again. And it's tough
man playing a quarterback position when there's only one ball
(23:32):
and only one guy can start, and when you might
think you're better than a guy in front of you
and you don't get that chance, Well, now it's your chance.
And he's comfortable. I think he knows the game, the system.
The game isn't different, it's just the system. Can you
learn the verbiage? Can you learn the roight concepts? Those things?
(23:52):
Can you get in sync with the wide receivers? I
think he feels at that level at that time you
asked him. I think he's like, oh, now, now I'm
at the point where I don't have to overthink and
I don't have to press. I feel comfortable in my
own skin now because I've been here a year. I
know the coordinator and I know the scheme. So I
think that's what he was experienced at that moment, because
(24:15):
it does hit you. It hits you at a moment
like man, everything is just like you're just going through
the motions, so to speak. And I was saying like, Okay,
now I get it, and now he gets in. Hopefully
he shows this on Saturday, because we need him to
show it on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
In two thousand and six, Rich Brooks was trying to
decide who is going to be his quarterback, Andre Woodson
or Curtis Pulley, and he ended up going with Woodson.
But when I did the book with Coach Brooks, he
several years later he said, we're looking back at that
really career or not career, but uh era turning season
(24:51):
for the rich Brooks era that two thousand and six
year led by Andre Woodson. Rich said it wasn't until
the in that opener against Louisville in which they were
blown out that he said he really knew he made
the right decision because he saw how Andre kept getting
to hit, kept getting kept getting up and making plays
(25:11):
and then Andre went on to do great things. I
say that as a lead up to you look for things,
and so you can tell me if there's maybe if
this was significant. On that last drive where they end
up getting a field goal, to try to get a
shot at a miracle, he has to step up and
deliver a dart into a bull's eye if you think
(25:34):
of a dart board, because it's a small window that
he had to hit to throw it and make a
long completion to Harley Gilmore that's set up the field
goal and hardly goes up and makes it, you know,
a contested catch, but that's the kind of play you
need to see. You can you know, most quarterbacks can
hit the guy that's wide open at this level against
the defensive backs you're facing, can you throw that ball consistently?
(25:57):
And was that significant for you?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
What was significant for me is and I remember to
play if not even a throw, it was a fact
he stepped up in the pocket like that. That was
the most important thing for me is that he knew
And I'm not gonna get into the to the to
the to the weeds of it, but the fact of
(26:21):
the old linement. A lot of times gets gets criticized
because of the errors of quarterbacks and the fact that
he gave us old line of chance to give him
some more time by trusting that they're gonna do this job,
and now he trusts to give more to be able
to go up and make that catch, Like that's the
thing that's most like. The results are the results, but
(26:42):
the process and the procedure to get to the results
are the most important thing. And he showed that more consistently,
and it's fewer tips than than than Zac did. Even
the mispass to the tight end in the corner the
end zone. Even though the results were not what we
on it of what he would have liked, the fact
(27:02):
that he do it to the right guy is a
step and a big step, and hopefully he can continue
to make those steps because at least he's throwing it
to the right people and seeing guys potentially getting open
and throwing guys open. With time, he was able to
make that connection. The next time he sees that he's tried,
going to throw it up all a little bit better
and a titand is going to score that touchdown. But
(27:23):
the fact that he threw it to him and through
it kind of on time, says a lot Well.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
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Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yeah, it's really inexcusable to be totally also with you.
There's things where we are trying to get the best
personnel we can with certain plays and certain things, and
you know, we've got to be better. I think we're
trying to do too much with matching personnel and change
and some people out. We talked about that at halftime,
cleaned that up, and we had a discussion with the
(28:18):
offensive staff and got that wrecked final.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
That was Mark Stoops after the game, and what he
was talking about was that ugly messie embarrassing first half
of burning three timeouts for issues where they couldn't get
either the right players out there or get them lined
up properly. And then on the last drive where they
were in a position to maybe try a field goal
(28:43):
to tack on three points at the end of the half,
they ended up having some of the same issues. They
had no timeouts to correct them. They ended up getting penalties.
It was all very ugly.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Van And.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
What did you see you hear that from Mark Stoops?
Is that some thing that comes from just trying to
do too much to out scheme when you can't out athlete.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Exactly. And it is it's a problem when I had
to break down timeouts, like who break down time outs?
Like why we really? Here's here's a situation I think
Bush is. It's not trying to do too much. He's
trying to make a perfect call, and there's no such
(29:28):
thing as a perfect call, like even and and me
as Stoops, I'm really upset that the first time out
because if you look at the timeout, he decided to
go forward early early, at least with thirty five seconds
left on the play clock, which means that's immediate because
the play clock starts right when the ball is dead,
so he made that decision early, so there's no reason
(29:51):
why we couldn't have gotten on the field. I'm gonna
say with that timeout there, and I've been in this
situation that could have been a player of timeout too,
because when you are sub and personnel, since we run
so much personnel, everybody's supposed to be around the coach
who says a personnel grouping. And when Daldo went out,
no one came back in, which means someone was not
(30:14):
paying attention. And when in a key spot of the game,
was not paying attention to get his himself back on
the field, he might not ever play again. And the
second time out going towards the end zone with I
think it's two minutes left in the first quarter, that's
on Bush. We had the call and he saw what
(30:36):
the defense alignment was and he tried to check out
of it with like ten seconds left on the play clock.
Bush is too late. Ride with your call, Trust your
players that they're going to execute as best as they can.
That was on him because he tried to make a
perfect call in that situation, and there is really no
such thing as a perfect call. You have to live
(30:56):
and die with the original call. Mike Marshton allows he
has to go call Mike Martz and get his ego
to say, I'm just gonna make a call. We're just
gonna stick with it.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Defensively, Uh, Kentucky did some good things again, but they
gave up a twenty plus yard play on every one
of Ole Missus scoring drives. They've given up I think
twelve in the first two games. And uh, not typical
of Brad White's defenses. They're doing a lot of things
that that are typical. That one's not what are you seeing?
(31:29):
What needs to change there on on?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
In this game today? If we knew, if we remember
last year, is we made tackles on the perimeter. In
this game, we didn't make tackles on the perimeter. That's
really the difference in the game is that. And it's
almost a carbon copy. Last year, All Miss scored on
a fourth down play. This game, they almost scored on
(31:54):
a fourth down play, but the guys on the perimeter
did not make tackles. And I said last week that
if we if we prevent big plays and make Ole
miss grind out drives, I feel good about the team.
We didn't make them continually grind out plays because we
gave up big plays and reduced them out first down
(32:14):
that they have to convert, and that was the big difference.
The big difference was even on a couple of run plays,
is the miss tackles. Miss tackles was the calling card
for Old Miss success offensively US missing tackles continually.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Coming into this season. I don't know how you were
looking at my thought. People woul ask you what you
think this season. I said, I think they're going to
be in a lot of one score games in the
fourth quarter. I think there's three games they'll be favored in.
I think there's two there'll be a big underdog, which
would be Georgia and Texas, and I think every other
game could well be a one score game in the
fourth quarter. So felt good that that's what this was.
(32:51):
And the thinking was, if you're if I'm right about that,
and there are potentially seven of those, you gotta find
a way to win U you know, at least three
if not for those, to have the you know, minimum
level of success you want for your season, which would
be to get back to a Bowl game. And they
didn't make those plays in this game. They'll get another
chance in two weeks down at South Carolina, and I
(33:14):
think more chances after that. So do you kind of
see it similarly?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, I mean that's all calling card. In one, we
won all the close games. That's that's how we play.
We don't have We are the thirteenth best talent team
in the conference. If you look at recruiting consistently, we
finished about eleven twelve, thirteen, So we're not gonna beat
team with better players consistently. We have good players. It's
(33:43):
not to say we don't have a handful of great players,
but consistently, talent wise, we're not in the top third
of the conference. But therefore we have our marginal error
is really thin, and we have to execute and perform
at the highest level and do the little things, which
is why are you gonna win close games? That was
Vanderbilt's calling card last year. They want all we got
(34:06):
to get back to how we were three twenty twenty
two and win all of the ones score games, or
at least the majority of them. If we do that,
we can get to six, potentially seven wins. But we
have to win these close games, and defensively, even though
we played well enough, we didn't do we like I
play defense the unit did not too well enough and
(34:30):
key situations to make win a close game easier. We
cannot give up touchdowns after the offense scores. You got
to come on the field and stop them. Those are
backbreaking situations. When you score offensively, then they go back
and score. That's a net zero that cannot happen consistently,
and it happened too much in this game, Van Heiles.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Van Hiles, it's at v Styles seventeen and on Wednesday
nights at nine Eastern time, he and Anthony White to
their locker the Locker Show that you can see on
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with us on Mondays on the Shuffle being Coffee Monday
morning Quarterback edition of The Leach Report. Van as always
a pleasure and always appreciate the insight and enjoy the
(35:16):
games your bears are playing on Monday night football. We're
gonna get a win.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I I hope, So, I hope. So if we're not
two and one next week, Miss, at least don't call me.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I understand, It'll go to voicemail. Thank you, Van. We'll
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along with the Redeemed team. They were recognized for enshrinment
into the Hall of Fame. Yesterday saw Tayshawn with a
Redeemed team. Jersey was holding up, so congrats to him.
He'll be here in the Bluegrass later this month to
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