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Speaker 1 (00:07):
From WBZ News Radio in Boston. This is New England Weekend.
Each week we come together and talk about all the
topics important to you and the place where you live.
It is great to be back with you again this week.
As always, I'm Nicole Davis. Despite what the movies and
TV shows will tell you, we have not, unfortunately been
able to make time travel a reality just yet. We're
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working on it. Of course. You can in a way, though,
experience it by getting in the car and driving over
to Hudson. That is where you'll find the American Heritage
Museum and also on that campus a rather impressive collection
of vehicles from World War II. Now, each of these
vehicles has their own story to tell us. They played
their part during that major conflict that shape the world
as we know it today. These are pieces of living history,
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and later on this month you could actually find yourself
in one of these tanks taking a ride, experiencing it
like the soldiers would have all those years ago. You
can also get up close personal with many more artifacts
from the Second World War. Let's buckle up and talk
about this event. Hunter Cheney is the director of Marketing
for the Collins Foundation and the American Heritage Museum. He
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is here with us now to talk about this, So Hunter,
thanks so much for being here. Give us a bit
of backstory to start about the museum, if you could.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah. Open in twenty nineteen, the American Heritage Museum features
an astounding collection of tanks and armored vehicles, aircraft and
all kinds of historic relics that span from the Revolutionary
War through the Civil War into World War One. World
War two is a big part of the museum, and
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then we go on into the Korean War, Vietnam War,
Gulf Wars, War in Iraq, all the way up to
current time. And it's laid out chronologically, so as people
go through this museum, you're basically following a timeline of
American history starting in the Revolutionary War, and by the
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time you get to the end, you're all the way
up to current time.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Well, pulling all that together, that's going to be a
lot of artifacts to tell so many stories.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
The one thing that I really enjoy for the first
time that people come here to see this is it's
a jaw dropping spectacle when you come into the museum.
The museum is set up to be very immersive, so
as you go through the exhibits, you're really learning about
not only the artifacts themselves, but the history that surrounds them.
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And it's of the collection. We have about eighty five
major tanks, the larger tanks, and a variety of mid
weight tanks and light tanks, and a lot of these
are operational, and some of them are the only ones
left in the world, let alone in North America.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
How do you get tanks? I mean, I know that
sounds like it's still question, but where does one? I mean,
you can't really get it on Craigslist, our Facebook marketplace,
Like how do you at the museum come into possession
of these essentially rare relics.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It's a fascinating story. You know, for years and years,
the real meat and potatoes of what we've been doing
through the Collings Foundation has been the operation of historic aircraft.
A lot of your listeners might remember the national Wings
of Freedom tour that featured heavy bombers and fighters from
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World War Two, and so this large national tour we
take around the country every year, visiting about one hundred
and ten cities. And every year when we tour these
aircraft around, we always end up in California and out
in California live this fellow, Jacques Littlefield, so tucked away
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up in the hills of Portola Valley, Jacques had this
compound that featured the world's largest privately held collection of tanks.
You imagine going up into this compound and building after
building was stuffed with tanks of all ilk and kind,
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to the point that he had a collection that featured
over two hundred and forty tanks. So, of course when
our World War two aircraft tool would come into local airport,
we would invite Jock Downs Jock come on show off
a tank with our aircraft, so we would have representation
of the ground war and the air war of World
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War Two. And unfortunately, Jacques passed away from pancreatic cancer
in two thousand and nine, and in twenty thirteen, his
foundation and family had selected us to receive the entire collection.
And so what we ended up doing is we sent
a team a specialist out to California. We went through
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his collection and we identify find all of what was
his most important historical core of that collection, and that
is what's featured prominently here in the museum, and all
the duplicates, all the extras, those were all prepared for
this giant auction, and so all the proceeds from this
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auction went into building this new museum here and it
opened in twenty nineteen, you know, right when COVID with
getting ready to come around. So it's still a very
new museum, but it's the only type of museum like
this in North America. It's a real jaw dropper for
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folks that come to see it for the first time.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I can't even imagine when it must be like walking
through that museum and just taking it all in, just
the awe of these vehicles that have seen essentially world
history play out in front of them. And you've got
other artifacts as well, if you're not just there for
the tanks.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, so we have a lot of Of course,
aircraft is a real big part of what we do,
and so we have this really quite an amazing collection
of aircraft that really helped tell the stories of the
various wars. We just moved in a one oh five
thunder Chief, which is a giant jet from the Vietnam era.
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We have the last flying fighter that survived the attack
on Pearl Harbor. We have a unique it's called an
L five or excuse me. L four Grasshopper was flown
by this history teacher of all people in World War Two,
and he was dubbed the name Bazuka Charlie because he
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ended up strapping Bazukas to this very plane and destroying
German tanks with it. And it's a compelling story that
follows this plane. And you see these little treasures throughout
the museum as people explore.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Now, the team that you've got running the museum, you
and all the others that make all this happen, and
you know, make sure all the artifacts are clean and
taking care of You almost really care about history as well.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, we're all very passionate about the history. There's a
very well known saying that we really take to heart
here is that for those who don't know history or
have forgotten it, are condemned to repeat it. And this
serves as a really poignant reminder of all the conflicts
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the United States has been through since our inception. And
what makes the museum experience particularly special is the docentce
that we have here, the volunteers that help keep this
museum running. For the most part, they're all veterans, mostly
from Cold War and upward and they are chock full
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of information and have a very passionate and deep knowledge
of the collection. So when you come, you really learn
a lot about the nuances of all the various artifacts
that we have here through the voices of people who
have an intimate knowledge in the equipment.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Well, then let's talk about this demonstration that's coming up.
It's August seventeenth and eighteenth, it's a whole weekend, and
you want to talk about people who know their stuff.
This is essentially going to be not just a reenactment,
but it's going to be a parade. There's going to
be all sorts of demonstrations focusing on World War Two.
So why World War Two? And why are we doing this?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
World War Two is the worst conflict on this earth
since humans have inhabited this small, little blue marble in
the blackness of space. It is the worst war that
all countries have been involved in. And it really wasn't
that long ago. And so when events like this, like
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the World War two Tank demonstration weekend, it's one thing
to see these relics in a static environment, but when
you have them out operating and you have people driving
them around, and you actually have a chance to see,
touch and fuel these tanks and aircraft. It makes it
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a personal experience. It makes it an immersive and interactive
experience in history, and we hope that through these interactions,
by getting excited about what you're seeing, that you want
to learn more. So it's programs like this that are
really a great catalyst to engage people of all ages
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and demographics in World War two history and how it
affects us today and how it affected our global order
of what we're living through right now.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah. Yeah, And in that vein, you've got some speakers
coming to talk about not just the battles, but also
the equipment that people are seeing when they're walking around
a life during the World War two era.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
One of the very popular things that we have over
the weekend are the reenactor encampments. So these are people
who really specialize in reenacting or representing the soldiers of
World War Two, and they have these encampments set up
where everything that you see, from the magazines to the equipment,
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the tents, their uniforms, they're all original from nineteen forty four.
And when you go through the encampments, you learn the
life of a soldier from these reenactors. And they engage
people in what they're portraying as a means to better
understand the conditions that these soldiers were going through in
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World War Two. So we have these encampments set up
through the weekend, and in addition to that, we have
speakers that will come in who are children of soldiers
that in some really harrowing battles from North Africa, Tunisia,
through Europe, Battle of the Bulge, trying to get through Belgium,
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and so the children of these soldiers, they will talk
to the audience about what they were doing, what their
fathers or grandfathers were doing in that particular area of
World War two, and it makes the experience very personal,
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so you're hearing it from a single person's perspective, and
it really adds color to the history because now, of course,
we learn our World War II history mostly from reading things,
and this makes the learning on a whole different level.
So here you're really learning it on a personal level.
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And it's important that people remember these things because of course,
if we remember all the bad things that had transpired
in World War Two, we can use that knowledge to
better ourselves into the future.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Now, you bring up a really good point a lot
of us learned about World War Two in history books
or looking at black and white photos online, but it's
a whole different level when you can get face to face,
touch a tank, talk with these people who who essentially
went through this as a member of that family. It
really brings it to a whole different level of not
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just experience, but also understanding.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
It does. And even for the folks that have that
the financial wherewithal we offer tank rides so people have
a chance to actually ride inside some of these World
War two tanks that we're going to be operating through
the course of the weekend. One in particular, of course,
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the very well known Sherman tank, which is the most
mass produced medium weight that the United States provided throughout
World War Two. And you might remember the actor James Gardner.
There is an old film back in the nineties called
Tank where James Gardner plays a part of this old
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Cogre tanker guy who was hermited away on a tank
base and he's his son gets captured by the local
police and it's up to James Gardner's character to take
his Sherman tank through the town and level the town
and rescue his son from the prison and that's this tank,
and so it's a little bit of a celebrity tank
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in there amongst all the others that will be offering.
The tank rides in and just like flying in the
World War Two aircraft, it's the same immersive experience, and
you realize when you're in these tanks just how cramped
they were and how little room there was to move
around in the stifling conditions that were inside these tanks.
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And that makes it a very personal experience for everyone absolutely.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And what I also really appreciate is that not just
the tanks are going to be available. You're going to
have all three museums open, so the Heritage Museum, the
Automobile Barn, and the aviation hangar. So it's not just
going to see the tanks. You get to have the
whole experience essentially when you're there.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, it's a rare opportunity to see the full collection
of the Callings Foundation and the American Heritage Museum. We
actually started in the nineteen eighties with this classic car
collection and it quickly evolved where we got into aviation,
and so we built in addition to our classic car collection,
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we've built a hangar to start this restoration on a
big World War Two bomber called it B twenty four,
and there we have over eight aircraft in a race
car collection, all kinds of other things in the hangar,
and then of course the main American Heritage Museum building.
So there's a lot to see and it spans from
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the very very early ages of transportation early nineteen hundreds
all the way up to current time.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Okay, the one thing that stood out to me here
that I thought was interesting when it comes to the
demonstrations you're going to be talking about tabletops strategy gaming,
How does this work when it comes to wartime? How
did that all happen.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Strategy was integral in war planning, and so these large
board games kind of follow that same level of thinking
of planning your next move, and so war game boards,
these guys come with these large ten by twelve foot
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board games and they're all, you know, decorated with various
environmental embellishments and small trees and things like that. Your
job basically, as you roll the dice and you move
your tanks into certain positions to try and overtake your
opponent's positions. And so there's a lot of strategy that
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unfolds in this gaming, and it's very similar to what
military commanders would have gone through in an actual battle scenario.
And so it's fun and it involves kids, you know,
and adults alike. Families just enjoy doing that as part
of the whole festivities.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I love that speaking of kids, kids are welcome to this.
This is not just an adult event. Kids can come
along no matter what the age.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah. Absolutely, it's a great family event and it's good
for kids of all ages, and the kids really get
a lot of fun out of it. There's a lot
of hands on things that the kids will be able
to do, and they really enjoy seeing the equipment operate
and particularly going through the living history camps.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Okay, so then let's talk about how people can get
their tickets and the logistics I suppose of the day.
So what is the pricing of the tickets and can
you buy them now? So on and so forth.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, so tickets are available. You can find them through
American Heritage Museum dot org or you're certainly welcome to
pay on arrival when you come. And again, this is
August seventeenth and eighteenth. Over that Saturday and Sunday, we're
open nine to five o'clock and the cost for admission
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is thirty dollars for adults, twenty five dollars for seniors
and veterans, and twenty dollars for children under sixteen, and
the toddlers three and under are free, and of course
members and some other folks like that is free admission,
all right.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
And these tickets, by the way, they're not just good
for the event. You can get these tickets and go
explore the museums as well.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, yeah, the tickets are good for not only the
tank demonstration, but also access to all three museums.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Phenomenal. All right, So one more time. Website social media,
how can people find you?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
You can find us on Facebook under American Heritage Museum
and our website is American Heritage Museum dot org.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
All right, Hunter, thank you so much for your time,
and have a great event. This is going to be
a really unique opportunity, I think, and it's going to
be a great time.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Thank you. I very much appreciate it. We look forward
to it.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Thanks again for tuning in as always via the podcast
or live. It is good to have you and I
hope you have a safe and healthy weekend. Please join
us again next week for another edition of the show.
I'm Nicole Davis from WBZ News Radio on iHeartRadio