October 18, 2024 • 46 mins
Tim Cates takes your calls after the Dodgers lose to the Mets, 12-6 in Game 5 of the NLCS. Jack Flaherty talks to the media.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now your host for playoff Dodger Toss.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Sound off, Angelinos Tim kaits Well, the Dodgers had a
chance to punch their ticket to their fourth World Series
in the last eight years. Instead they're getting on the
plane heading back to LA with a three to two
series lead in the NLCS. Hi, everybody, and welcome to
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postgame Dodger Talk here on your home of the Dodgers
and five to seventy LA Sports Star phone lines. Well,
you know the number eight sixty six, nine eighty seven
two five seventy eight six six nine eight seven two
five seventy as the Dodgers had a chance to win
Game five, win three straight at City Field and get
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a berth to the World Series. Instead, they've got a
fly back home workout tomorrow, and now they must win
Game six unless they want to play Game seven on
Monday night. And it's now a bullpen game on Sunday
night at Dodger Stadium. Aziel fe Sean Manya who will
go now for the New York Mets, who tonight pounded
out twelve runs against the Dodgers, eight of which given
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up from by Jack Flarity, who will start right there?
Jack Flarity tonight did not have it and did not
have it from the get go, a leadoff single to
Francisco Lindor of a walk to the next batter, Nemo,
and the first two batters were on in the first inning,
and two batters later, Pete Alonso a two to one
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pitch right over the middle of the plate, crushes it
to right center field, a three to nothing Mets lead.
He comes back out in the second inning a leadoff double. Somehow,
some way, gets out of the second inning without giving
up a run, despite Lindor crushing the ball almost fair
for another home run for the Mets. Instead, it was
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foul down the right field line, and they get out
of it with no runs scored in the second From
the Mets, the third inning was a complete disaster. And
at that point, if you're Dave Roberts, you have to
go get Jack Flarity oh two count to Pete Alonzo
to start off the third. It's a three to one game.
The Dodgers had scored in the second. You put up
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a zero in the bottom of the second somehow, and
it's still a three to one game. Bottom of the
third inning, You're still in it. He walks Pete Alonzo
after getting ahead o two in the count and a
couple of pitches just not even competitive, Pete Alonzo not
chasing him. Just one pitch fouled off and he walks.
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Pete Alonzo after getting ahead Zho and two. The next batter,
Jesse Winker four straight pitches out of the strike zone
for a four pitch walk. The first two batters of
the third walked by Jack Flarity. Mark Pryor came out
and talked to him. But nobody getting up in the bullpen.
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A three to one lead, shouldn't somebody be getting loose
to start the third inning. I understand you need Jack
Fleerry to give you some length you cannot cover with
the high leverage relievers that you have down there for
six or seven innings. I understand it. Dave Roberts said
that I get it. But it's a three to one
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game in the third inning, and after the first inning,
and then after the second inning, of which you dodged
a bullet and you put up a zero, but barely
in the second inning, the lineup turns over. It's the
heart of the lineup with Lonzo starting off the third inning.
Somebody needs to be getting loose. Somebody needs to start
getting ready just in case things really go south in
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the third inning. You've got to keep it close. This
Dodgers offense can score runs. We know that, we know
what they can do. But you can't dig a hole
so deep that you can't get out of it. But
that's exactly what happened. Back to back walks to lead
off the third inning, and still Jack Flarity stays in
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the game, facing Starlin Marte who doubles to left on
a pitch that was eighty eight miles an hour over
the heart of the plate. Two runs scored. It's a
five to one game, all right. At this point, somebody
go get Jack Flarity. It's a five to one game.
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It's still within reach. And I get there's nobody out
in the second inning, and you still have to have
a bullpen now cover at least seven innings. I understand that.
But outside of one reliever, that being Blake Trining, it
should be all hands on deck trying to pitch them
back to back games. Game three in Game four, probably
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not up for this game, pitching it for the third
day in three games. All right, everybody else should be
good to go high leverage, low leverage, mid leverage. They
should all be good to go to con tribute at
some point in some way. A five to one game,
at that point, you've got to cut the cord on
Jack Flaherty. You have to. You have to. Then you
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piece it together, you find out some way to keep
putting up zeros and let your offense chip away. In
a five to one game, it's a game where you
can clinch a World Series spot. Yet the Dodgers played
it as if, well, we got game six, what about
game six? We have to have pitching for Game six.
We have to have a bullpen for Game six. You
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may not need a Game six if you can keep
it close, chip away, keep the game within reach, and
win Game five. I know it's could have, would have,
should have, But at that point you have to think
five to one game, all right, let's keep it there,
Let's get somebody to get out of this inning, will
work inning to inning, and we'll hope that our lineup
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would just put up a ten spot twenty hours ago,
is gonna come and score some more runs than the
one they'd already had on the board. You have to
figure this Dodgers offense was one of the best so
far in the postseason, scoring runs in punches is gonna
score runs, and they eventually did score six total for you.
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But when you put yourself in a whole light they did,
it's too big of a hole to get out of.
But the hole should never have gotten that big three
to one, I go get him after the Marte double
five to one, Yeah, you're definitely gonna go get him.
But after the Marte double three batters later, Alvarez single,
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it's six to one and he's still in the game.
Lindor triple, it's a seven to one game and he's
still in there with two outs. Nemo single to right,
eight one game, and Jack Flaherty is still in pitching
in an eight to one game. He gets Viento's to
ground out to short inning, a five runs on four
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hit inning for the New York Mets and an eight
to one lead. I get saving guys for a possible
game six if you're late in the game and you
want to save a couple of those arms. But in
a closeout game, whether it's three to one and you
can keep it right there, or you can keep it
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at five to one, and I'm gonna roll the dice
with my offense, I'm gonna keep it at five to
one and say, bullpen, do your stuff for seven innings.
I need some of you guys to get an extra
batter or two to piece together seven. So at that
point I can give my offense to go out there
and get me four runs. I can get my offense
to get me back into this game. One swing of
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the bat, we're back in it. One big inning, a
crooked number, and it's a tie game. We're right back
in it. Three to one, all right, five to one,
crooked inning, we're back in it. We chip away at it.
I got confidence in my offense. They're gonna get more
than one run. You have to roll the dice. You
have a day off tomorrow and a game on Sunday night,
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plenty of time to get guys rest. And he's looking
at the usage going in today's game. Michael Kopek has
pitched once in this series, twelve pitches in Game three.
Trina has pitched in the first two games in New
York Games three and four, again probably off limits. Hasn't
pitched three straight games all season long. Evan Phillips pitched
thirty four pitches last night. Maybe he can get me
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an out, all right, All hands on deck, get me
an out. Evan Phillips, Ryan Brazier. He didn't pitch in
Game four. Daniel Hudson hasn't pitched since Game one. Anthony
Bonda hasn't pitched since Game two. Yet you bring him
in the eighth inning to get one batter. Brent Honeywell,
you brought him in and pitched, and he soaked up
innings and we applaud him. We'd tip our cap and
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our turtleneck to him, but he still gave up four runs.
Ben kiss berryus through thirty one pitches last night. Maybe
he can come out and give you something. Maybe not.
That was actually on Wednesday, So he is available to pitch.
Edgardo Henriquez. He pitched last night seven pitches. All right,
maybe he's not available, but maybe he is. He's a
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young kid with an arm of a young kid that
can go out there and help you out, and he
hasn't pitched a lot this season. In general. Landon Nack,
if you need somebody late in the game where you
just don't feel like you're gonna catch the Mets and
the game's out of reach, then you can bring in
Landon Nack. He can soak up the rest of the
innings and we get ready for Game six, but early on,
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in my opinion, to throw up the white flag and
say we can't go to our high leverage guys quite yet.
You know, we got a ride with Jack flairt he
just a little bit longer, you're letting the game get
out of reach, and it didn't necessarily need to get
to that point. All right, play Devil's advocate with you,
because some of the people are tweeting at me saying, well,
what if the high leverage guys come in and they
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still get hit around? If Dwinker still triples in the
fourth and McNeil still hits the sack fly and there's
runners on base in traffic everywhere. All right, If we
get to the fourth inning and it's ten to two,
like it was, and let's say one or two of
the higher le guys didn't have it tonight, that's when
you pull the ripcord and say we don't have it.
In Game five, we tried with Flarty, We tried with
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a couple of high leverage relievers to stop the bleeding
and keep us in a game, and it didn't work.
You know what we're gonna say, landing nac Britt honeywell,
eat up the innings. If we can we can come back, great,
but if not, we're getting ready for Game six and
we still feel really good about how our bullpen is rested.
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But instead we never got that opportunity. It felt like
Game two all over again, where landing that comes in
has a five run inning puts them in a big hole.
The Dodgers actually were one or two swings away from
getting back into that Game two and winning it despite
the early struggles. Tonight, down eight to one, it fell
out of reach. It really felt out of reach when
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they went up eleven to five, then up eleven to six,
and they go on and win it by a final
of twelve to six. To me, it's frustrating. It's not
second guessing in the moment. I imagine a lot of
you Dodger fans are with me, because heck, my phone
started to get hot from all the people calling and
texting me wanting to know why Jack Flaherty was still
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in the game. I don't know, not my decision. I'm
aren't there with you. Go to your high leverage guys.
Stop the bleeding, at least for an inning, put up
a zero. Stop the momentum of the New York Mets.
Baseball is a game of momentum. They put up three runs,
they threw five spot up in the third, it's eight
to one. It should never got to that point five
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to one. Send somebody in there, get out of that
inning a five to one deficit, and start piecing it
together after that, because if you put up a zero
in the fourth, a zero in the fifth, and next
thing you know, the Dodgers are attacking on runs. Pa
has is hitting a home run. It's all of a sudden,
a five to three game, and who knows, maybe you
tied it five and we got a whole new ball
game in the sixth inning. But you can never get
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to that point because you don't go to your high
end relievers to stop the bleeding early in the game.
Why to win and you move on. This isn't a
game in which you're down three to one and you
need to win this game and you have to worry
about game six and seven. I'm just as frustrated as
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you Dodger fans. Wholeheartedly don't understand why the Dodgers did
not make an effort to stop it where it was
at the third inning and continue to have Jack Flaherty
out there, the thinking of, well, there's still a lot
of baseball left in this series. Well, there doesn't need
to be. If you win Game five and you keep
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it at a five to one game, or you keep
it at a three to one game, you gotta have arms,
the high ends, the high end guys ready for Game
six or seven. The high leverage guys. Can't be responsible
for that many innings in this game. Of course they can't.
I get that. But somebody needs to come in and
stop the bleeding in the third inning, needs to come
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in and stop that big inning from continuing to happen.
When it's three to one and all of a sudden,
Marte hits a two run double to make it five
to one, it has to stop right there. It has to.
You've got to stop it so you can keep your
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offense still within striking distance and not put your team
in a hole yet again, not worry about Game six.
In game seven, you still have a shot to win
Game five, eight, six, six, nine, eighty seven two, five seventy.
Let's head back out to Citey Field. Jack Flaherty got
hit around tonight, eight runs, eight hits, a home run,
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two doubles a triple in three innings of work. Let's
go back out and hear from tonight's starter.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I feel like they made they made some adjustments, stead
a good job, and I feel like the first time
in a while I kind of let the game speed
up on me a little bit and it didn't make
the adjustments in game that maybe the only get made,
especially after that first inning where they put a couple
of good apouts together. Uh you tip your hat Topete
there on. You put a good swing on a pitch,
but it kind of showed and uh, yeah, I didn't
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make any I didn't make it. They didn't make adjustments
after that, and uh I kept going uh back to
the well and uh, you know, they did a good
job making adjustments and I didn't.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Is this one of those examples of when you do
face a team twice in the seven game series and
obviously you can kind of learn from them as you
hopefully can prepare for the World Series and what a
performance look like for in that series for.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
You' that's part of the the challenge of it.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
And you know what makes uh the postseason so interesting
is facing a team two times in a span of
of five days.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
And getting a chance to go right back at 'em.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
You know, they want to get get back for you know,
what went on in game one, and I.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Want to continue, you know, rolling through that. And that's
how the way it went.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
They they were able to do a good job, and uh,
the tip recap to them and h what they were
able to do and the the swings that they took
and the pitches they hit. So you know, we'll go
back and figure some things out and uh, you know,
make adjustments and you know, if I could take them
all in the next game, I would, I would, but
that's not the way the baseball works. So you know,
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Honey did a good job picking picking us up to
giving us some innings, Like guys kept showing some fight,
putting up six runs there. You know, just makes staining
a little bit more because I do is be average
and you know we're in this game, but you know,
you gotta regroup, go back to LA and uh, you know,
the next man up, and you don't exact.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
The game kind of speeding up, especially like that third
ending is kind of what what wrong?
Speaker 7 (15:32):
Meditting to where you couldn't.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
That's coming into It's not it's not that you know,
things keep going where its game speeds up and you
gotta make adjustments and sometimes there that happens, and especially
in the playoffs, things get getting magnified a little bit more. So,
Uh yeah, I didn't didn't didn't make adjustments in terms
of a bunch of different things that I'm not gonna
get into what I think that those are. And but yeah,
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it just is, Uh did to think something hasn't happened
in a while of letting the games speed up and
letting it you know, things cycle that quickly. So that's
it's baseball sometimes and you get a chance to learn
from it.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
What was the biggest difference between Game one and tonight?
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Was it just that lack of adjustments? I think so.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I think it's part of baseball's you gonna make adjustments
game to game and and pitch to pitch ending the inning.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
And I did not, you know, I just didn't do that.
They they did a really good job.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
You could see the swings they took and uh, you
see their game plan.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
So you know, move on the next one.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Jack.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
We all know your story, hometown guy. It's the team
you cheered for.
Speaker 9 (16:34):
How frustrating is it for you that you weren't able
to get it done for your team today.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I don't think me being growing up here has any
addition to being a frustrated I understand that this has
been a whole story and everything, but like it, there's
no added frustration because I grew up and I'd be
pissed off no matter where I was playing.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
So kind of tired of that.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
But I I be frustrated no matter what, and I'd
be static with that game one, no matter where I
was pitching.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
So no matter what, it's frustrating.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So it sucks, but you know, we got another one.
We get to go back to La and uh, you
don't get created by our fans.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
I was surprised for you to. Pete was able to
go down and get that ball and kind of equity
type man. He's a good player.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I watched him take take a change up below earlier
this year when I was with Detroit and do the
same thing with it, So you know, there's there's there's
a reason why he's he's He's good at what he
does and sometimes you tip your cap and make a
better pitch.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
The Bilo was a little down.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
It's kind of like the command was off.
Speaker 10 (17:35):
Is that situation, like you talked about, where it just
your body made it wasn't moving in the right.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Way or I felt good good going in.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I didn't really look up too much to see how
it was coming out.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
The hitters would tell you that. But the command was
I mean, walked forward.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I didn't been really good about not doing that all
year and those just get it, you know, amplified in
the playoffs. So again he's just just regroup, hope to
get another one and hopefully that this guy's picked me up.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
All right, there's Jack Flerity handled it well there talking
to the media, and yeah, I liked his answer about
the fact that it's because he's a homegrown kid from
LA doesn't mean more or less. You know that it
hurts the start tonight against the Mets. Yeah, impressive from
Jack flarerity to go and meet the media and talk
about his outing. I'm a little surprised nobody asked him
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about his velocity and if he feels okay and maybe
an explanation as far as why the v LO is
down and the command wasn't there. He talked about adjustments
and the game's speeding up on him. Mark Pryor went
out there once to talk to him, and then Starling
Marte hit the double after that, so there was a
break in the action. But I understand what he means.
The game's speeding up on you, and nexty you know,
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it's the next batter and the next batter, and you
just can't get it out and you're struggling. You're looking
around for somebody to help you or something to get
you out of this inning. I get that. I understand
what he's talking about there. But at the same time,
nobody wanted to ask him why he's throwing eighty eight
ninety ninety one miles an hour on his fastball and
his sinker and not having any control of his offstbed pitches.
His slider really had no bite on it at all.
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Tonight interesting more interested in asking about the storyline of
being a kid from Burbank. Apparently, so eight sixty six
nine eight seven two five seventy a disappointing nine for
the Dodgers, a game in which they clinch a berth
in the World Series. If they can beat the New
York Mets. Riding the momentum of a ten to two
win last night, they come out today had an opportunity
by the way, in the first inning, you can't can't
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do this without saying that the first inning, second and third,
nobody out. The Dodgers a golden opportunity to take the
lead in this game six Taoscar Hernandez grounds out to short.
Otani doesn't go home and score. The infield was deep
up the middle and the corners were pinching in a
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ball hit to the middle of the infield, you're going
on contact, you're scoring because they're going to throw it
to first to get the out and give up the run,
which they did. He didn't run, and the Dodgers left
Otawanni at third and stranded Mookie Bets at second because
Freddy Freeman lined out to Pee Alonzo and then Tommy
Edmond struck out to end the inning. So instead of
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taking a one to nothing lead, grabbing the momentum and
really putting your foot on the Mets to have to
answer in the first inning, it's a zero zero game
and Jack Flairity maybe goes out there with confidence instead
single walk. Two batters later, Pete Alonzo good night, four
hundred and thirty two foot home run and the Mets
take a three to nothing lead. Again it's three to one.
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After the Dodgers scored in the second, it's three to
one in the third until the Marte double, it's five
to one. I'm gonna say it again. Nobody warming up,
Nobody ready to go in a three to one game.
You're Dave Roberts. In my mind, this is just me speaking.
I can't let the game get away any more than that.
It's already three to one. If he continues to get
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outs like he did and get out of a jam
like he did in the second inning, great, okay, he's
gonna go back out there, a lead off walk after
having an two count on pin Alonso to go, then
for to throw four straight balls, and then four straight
balls not even close to Winker first and second. Nobody
out a three to one game? And Marteu, where's the bullpen?
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Where's where's the reliever to come in and stop the bleeding?
You leave Jack Flerty out there, gives up a two
run double. It's five to one that point, it's lights out.
I'm sorry. I go get him. I say, Jack, you
didn't have it tonight. We're gonna have the bullpen covered
tonight and try to keep this game within reach. At
five to one, instead, they leave him out there. He
scores three more, gives him a three more runs, and
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it said eight to one. Mets lead. Eight to one.
Mets lead at that point, and the Dodgers could not
come back. They made it close. Mookie Bets hit a
home run in the sixth inning that made it a
ten to six game. Dodgers were still right there, nobody
out sixth inning, ten to six game, but they couldn't
get any closer, and they couldn't score any more runs.
In fact, they give up two more and the Mets
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win it at twelve to six. All right, I've said
what I had to say. Let's go out to the phones.
Thanks for being patient, Javier and all Hammer start things
off here on postgame Dodger Talk. Go ahead, and Avier,
thank you.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
For taking my call.
Speaker 11 (22:08):
What a disappointing, embarrassing game to watch. I guess Dave
Roberts and the management staff didn't listen to what his
players were saying last night, how they wanted to close
out the series today. Right, you have a day off
tomorrow if you throw your big guns and your big
guns don't work, but you got to give the team
a chance. I just lost for words this You got
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to give the gun a chance. We've all I gotta say.
I just I can't say anymore. I think everything you
said is like fought on and it's just so frustrating
because what if you've just woken up a giant. You
can't get complacent. That's complacent managing. And that's all I
have to say. You can taking my call, all right?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Have you here? I'm right there with you. I can't
be at a lost words because this Dodger talk, and
I got to say something. But I'm frustrated because we
saw this in Game two, the Dodgers not going to
their high leverage relievers. We knew it was gonna bullpen game.
The plan didn't work out. Initially, you fall behind, but
the hole kept getting dug deeper and deeper and deeper.
And you've got an offense that's the best in baseball,
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and in a playoff game, you're down one, two, three,
four nothing. I still feel like this Dodgers offense can
come back, but you put yourself down eight to one
like they did tonight in the third inning, that feels
like a hole that's really hard to come out of,
and it's gonna take a lot of work from the
bullpen the rest of the way, and certainly a lot
of work from your offense to get back into this game.
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While all that being said, the Mets have momentum and
they got the crowd back into the game, so you're
working against that as well. Eddie and North Hollywood is
next up here on Dodger Talk, Mets take Game five
twelve to six. Hi, EDDI, how you doing?
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Wow?
Speaker 8 (23:48):
Thanks for having me on. I have a lot to say.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Tim.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
First of all, I gotta say I love your passion.
I will expecting me to here, Dave, but I guess
he's gotta go fly back with our loser team.
Speaker 9 (24:01):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
But to say the truth this game, you know, it
really falls on the shows that Dave Roberts. You know,
going back on game two. I listened to the w
talk after game two and you know you really went
in on you know, he went to Mac. He didn't
pull him early and today clearly didn't have it. Unfortunately,
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you know, Jack was a stud on game one. For
game two, he didn't have it. And after he walked
the first two guys, I was got. I was at Chili.
He's over here. I'm way over here in North cal
I made a delivery and it's like pull this guy,
pull him, and know he didn't pull them join us.
He struggled, he didn't have it. He sent him back
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out there third aning a lunch of walks, winker walks.
When he walked Winker, I was like, oh, come on,
I was on I was on Twitter like X like
somebody's in a bullpen, but nope, nobody was in the bullpen.
And then he hits out double down the line, and
you know t K is our best third baseman. But
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we had Monthy at that base and for some reason
he was playing up on the grass so he couldn't
backhand it. It went by him, and after that it
was all downhill.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Ye.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
Unfortunately, you know Freddy, I love Freddy, but right now, Freddy,
he's hurting the team. If we got mixed up for yeah,
he got mexed up for his base. If we got
mixed up for his base and we got a third,
who knows, maybe he can mix that play. But you
know what, We're gonna go back to LA and I'm
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very confident I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
I'm all right.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I appreciate your phone call. I'll let you I'll let
you go a lot of Dodger fans want away, and
I guess I get your frustration, and uh yeah, it's
it's a game at which the Dodgers win, and they
move on a lot riding on it, and to treat
it like, well, we got game six to fall back on,
and uh yeah, we're down on early, so we're gonna
stay away from our high, high leverage relievers. I just
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don't get it. I don't get it. I'm I'm a
chips all in kind of guy, and that's just me personally.
And I would have I would have kept fighting. I
would have kept saying three to one, I'm gonna keep fighting,
five to one, I'm gonna keep fighting again. I said
it earlier. At that point, if it's the high leverage
relievers come in a trying in a COPEC and they
give up a couple runs and it's all of a sudden,
a seven to one game or an eight to one
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game because those guys gave up the runs in the
third and fourth inning or however it turned out, then fine,
then I'm punting and then I'm going to land in
neck and Brett honey Well and thinking, Okay, I'm not
wasting ay more. High leverage, guys. I've used one or
two of them here. We just don't have it. But
to not even give them a chance to keep it
at three to one, to keep it at five to one,
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to me, that's right. I'm different. Adam in the four
h five, hopefully driving safe, two half the wheel, listen
to Dodger talk. Hi doing, Adam?
Speaker 12 (26:56):
How about you?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I'm okay, I'm okay. I'm a little frustrat right now.
I think a lot of Dodger fans are.
Speaker 12 (27:02):
Yeah. Well, first off, thanks for taking my call. I
just wanted to start off by saying, you know, I
grew up in Northridge, din our Dodger fans for as
long as I can remember, twenty twenty was the first
championship I've ever seen or listened to at Dodger stadiums.
But I'll be honest, I get as frustrated with a
lot of Dave Roberts's decisions throughout the playoffs in most
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recent years. First time I want to shout out to
go Bruins. You know, Eric Carrow, Dave Roberts Chase at
league got to support my UCLA Ruins. But I honestly
am not super upset with that decision. Being down five
to one obviously is not an ideal place to play.
We've been down that before and being able to come back.
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But you're in the driver's seat up three to one.
I understand where you're coming from. But if you don't
win this game, you have a day off brest those
Bulkan's arms are gonna be okay regardless.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yep, you're right, Adam. I appreciate it. You're absolutely right.
You have a day to get those arms rested. And
I told you earlier what the status was of those relievers.
Ben Kisparius pitched two innings or make that at Garl.
Henriquez pitched two innings last night, thirty four pitches and
an Indian and a third from Evan Phillips. Blake tried
and pitched as well.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
Try it.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I'm sure would take the ball asked. Evan Phillips would
take the ball tonight in whatever capacity if asked. In
a tight game, Henriquez is probably the only guy not available.
Everybody else is available, and like I said, again, the
high leverage relievers come in and they can't put a
zero up and they'll have you in trouble, and all
of a sudden they're tacking on more runs and it's
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turning into a blowout. Then you pull the ripcord and
say we're gonna live to fight another day. We're not
gonna use any more high leverage relievers, and we're gonna
get ready for Sunday. But he didn't get to that point.
You kept Jack Flaherty out there, runs kept coming in,
and then you put the game out of reach at
that point and didn't want to use the high leverage relievers.
Eight six, six, nine, eighty seven, two five, seven, will
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take a break, We'll come back. More of your phone calls. Yeah,
a lot of frustration from Dodger fans. I understand. I
understand your frustration. The Dodgers had a chance to close
it out, finish this series and get ready for the
Fall Classic, but instead they fly home now and have
to get ready for Game six. We're gonna get into
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the Dodgers offense as well. Two guys in particular struggling
Freddie Freeman. We may not see him in game six.
Ta Oscar Hernandez, Where did you go? Where is ta
Oscar Hernandez? Has anybody seen him here? In the NLCS?
Oh for four tonite two strikeouts he is now hitless
in the NLCS and struck out nine times. Your phone
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calls when we come back. It's postgame Dodger Talk. Mets
win Game five of the NLCS tonight in New York,
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Speaker 6 (30:14):
First base, out of the mound, Rookie Betts. It's a
hard left field pushing Nemo back, and he turns around
in Mookie Betts with a bomb all lead up home
run for Bookie in the six and the Dodgers are
within four.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Mookie Betts goes deep. Andy Pajez goes deep twice. Not
enough though, for the Dodgers, who fall to the Mets
in Game five of the NLCS twelve to six to
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will be a game six on Sunday right here on
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deck will start at four o'clock. First pitch at five eight.
Shaman Naya, the left tender, will go for the Mets.
Dodgers will go with a bullpen game. Alex and Montabello
is next up here on postgame Dodger Talk. Hi, Alex,
I've been better? How about you?
Speaker 9 (31:11):
Yeah, we could have been better.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 13 (31:13):
How is it this team, you know, could lose the
opportunity of being the visiting team and could have scored first,
left those two men on bay and could have finished
it in New York.
Speaker 11 (31:22):
But no, they decide, you know, yeah, we could finish
it at all.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
Why not?
Speaker 11 (31:26):
You know, it's it just brings back more PTSD.
Speaker 13 (31:29):
So the past season that you know they're all three
to one, and you know the Mets is usually tie
it up.
Speaker 11 (31:35):
Here at home.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
It's no doubt, man.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I mean, you leave the door open. You leave the
door open, Alex. I appreciate the phone call. That's the
last thing you want to do is give this team
any more life. And now they've got that. Coming back
for a game six to Dodgers Stadium, they got a
little bit of momentum. They're feeling good. They just put
twelve runs up on your team, and now they've got
their best picture of the postseason. Shaman and Nya, who
just shut you down in Game two going in games,
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he's got all the confidence. The Mets got all the
confidence coming back to Dodger Stadium. So yeah, you have
to close the door when you have the opportunity. You
have to step on their neck, so to speak, when
you have the opportunity to take care of business and
finish them off. And I know this team was ready,
This team was focused. It's not an issue. This team
was not ready for this game. That's not the case
at all. But you have to take advantage of things.
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And I think at this game tonight, at the point
where it got three to one then five to one,
you had to get to the bullpen and you had
to get to high end leverage guys for the Dodgers
to keep it that way, you couldn't treat it as well.
We just got to get innings. So we need somebody
to get two or three for us. And who's that
going to be? And we needed him, you know, to
go out there and need some more innings because we
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didn't have the coverage. You worry about that as you go.
You keep it as close as possible. I mean, hypothetically,
if the Dodgers are down three to one or five
to one, they come back, make it five to three,
make it five to five, they take the lead, somehow
they keep it a five to five game. It's a
whole new ballgame. And maybe you go to a landed
neck or Brent Honeywell to get two winnings and then
you go back to highland leverage guys. Maybe you take
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the lead and you can afford then to go to
a land in neck or Brent Honeywell with the lead
and you win the game. You don't you have to
worry about pitching game six in a bullpen Game eight six,
six ninety seven two seventy. Adam and Phoenix is next
up here on Dodger Talk. I, Adam.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
So I think we need some no panic here, We
need optimism. You know we did Roberts said.
Speaker 12 (33:28):
What he did today.
Speaker 11 (33:29):
But you know what we need to go into game
six and seven.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Yeah, no panic, let's do this.
Speaker 11 (33:35):
Casey, I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I wouldn't say it's panic, and I appreciate it, Adam.
It's not panic. It is frustration because I think the
Dodgers are still in control of this series. They still
have the offense. I believe that's going to score runs
and hopefully get to sham and Aya on Sunday. I
have all the confidence in the bullpen, especially the high Land,
the high leverage guys to get it done for the Dodgers.
And you got Walker Bueller in case you need him
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in a Game seven. I'm confident the Dodgers need to
win one of ten two games to go to the
World Series. You've just now made it a little bit
harder for yourself and now you're gonna have to actually
get to Sean and I I'm not worried, I'm not panicking.
I'm frustrated because this was a game you could have won,
and I still feel you could have kept it close
and given your offense a better chance to get back
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into the game eight six, six, nine, eighty seven, two
five seventy. Daniel's next up here on Dodger Talk. Howre
you doing, Daniel?
Speaker 13 (34:24):
Hello, Yeah, everybody else, I'm I'm frustrated because of the
schematics within the game and you're only down two runs
and then maybe four runs, you're within one swing of
coming back. Maybe you bring in a high reliever for
one or two and give your offense a fighting chance.
But like you said, the risk is if if the
game still is the Mets blowout, not only do you
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have to go back to Kelly for Game six, but
you have two less high leverage guys doing it. That
being said, though you don't give the Mets. These Mets,
the way they've battled back all year long, they know
what it takes to come back. I kind of feel
like the position that it reminds me. They remind me
where the Cubs were in twenty sixteen in the World Series.
They were down three to one Game five at home,
their final home game of the year. They won that one,
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and then all of a sudden Game six and seven happened.
Everything about the misuperior Sean Manea, he has a chance
to be you darbish again, and it's been proven he
can do darvish things. Then all of a sudden, what
happens if the bullpen game blows up again? Then you
get a Game seven where it's fifty fifty and you're
not guaranteed Walker Wheeler can get you a performance like
right now, it's I jumped the frustration into more of
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pre determined anxiety because of what the Mets are still
capable of, especially the arms race at this point.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, yeah, Daniel, appreciate it. It is an arms race,
So I like the way you phrased that. But I
still believe the Dodgers have the offense to get it done. Again.
I'm not panicking. This is just frustration after a Game
five in which the Dodgers I think, you know, could
have fought, could have fought with more of an effort
from the bullpen. And again it's it could have what
it should have. It's a lot of what IFFs I
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mentioned it at the scenario if you do go to
a highlight leverage reliever, a copek A trying in a
Daniel Hudson in the situation in the second or third
inning and they give up some runs, all right, then
we deviate some more, and we go to a Landon
Nack or a Brent Honeywell and ride them for as
many innings as possible and hope the offense chips away.
But to not even try to go to the high
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leverage relievers to stop the bleeding in that second and
third inning, that's the problem I have with it. That's
the problem I have with it. Willie in Alabama checking
in on Dodger talking on this Friday night. How you doing, Willie?
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Great? Great? How you doing today?
Speaker 13 (36:35):
Missus team?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'm okay, I'm all right, I'm alright. I'm a little
frustrated as you can hear about you, Willie.
Speaker 7 (36:41):
See one thing I don't like about Robert just that
Robert give them up too quick and he had glag.
Tomorrow is promos. Tomorrow is not proms. He should have
stuffed that thing today ding to town, we find out
flatterer did hand. But let's I get so aggravated with
him like I did last year. Last year, I was
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I was saying that that that we need a coach
that fight hard and never give up. That I don't
like the thing Robert do I just do it because
he would start starting pulling players in the late end
when theyre behnd, you know, like they're like it's impossible,
you know, for them to come back. I don't like it. Now.
(37:27):
I've been a Darger fan every since nineteen part eight. O. Yes, uh,
like my daddy was. Uh, my dad was a Darder fan.
Uh uh, way before I was born and everything, and
so I followed in his footsteps. But but I I
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I believe we need a coach that will fight and
fight again.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
You've seen a lot of baseball, Willie.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
This Dodger team, they've got enough in the tank right
game six, they can come back out. And this offense,
who knows they can put up another big number. And
we're talking about a Dodger blowout win this series, Willie,
You've seen it. This Dodger team has scored runs. This
this Mets team scored a lot of runs. It's been
five games of blowouts on on either side. It's been crazy.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
Yeah. Yeah, But but I feel like we could have
won today, no doubt. I feel like we could have
won today. You know, if he had to pulled him
when it was three to one and he walked, that's
quite better. I believe we should have pulled the right game.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I'm with you, Willie, Willy. Great to hear from you.
Don't be a stranger. Love hearing from you on Dodger talking.
Do this more often? Please, thank you though absolutely Willy
and Alabama been a Dodger fan since the forties. Yes,
love hearing from Willy from Alabama. Eight six six nine
eight seven two five seventy. Dodgers lose Game five of
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the NLCS tonight, twelve to six. Jack Flerry gives up
eight runs in three innings. He got tagged for a
three run home run from Pete Alonzo in the first,
Dora scuored a run on a wild pitch in the second.
It was a three to one game going to the
third inning. That's when Sterling Marte hit a two run
double with nobody out and runners on after back to
back walks to lead off that third inning for the
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New York Mets. As will he agrees after that walk
to Pete Alonzo, I mean he was ahead oh to
two and then throws four straight balls to walk Pee Alonzo.
At that point, somebody's got to be getting loose. Somebody's
got to get up because it's a three to one game.
We got to keep it right there. I know he
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just put up a zero in the second and Dave
Roberts talked about that. He got out of trouble in
the second inning. He gave up a leadoff double and
then was able to get three straight fly ball outs,
but not before Lindor almost hit one out by the
way down the right field line. Gets out of the
second inning, no runs, all right, got out of that one.
Wasn't easy, though, And the third inning gets ahead, oh
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and two. Okay, maybe the first inning was a blip
on the radar. Maybe the second inning got out of
a jam. The thirty eight eating, he'll be lights out.
Be back to Jack Flaherty. All right, he got that
out of his system. Oh two to Pete Alonzo, four
straight balls and then four straight balls to Winker. At
that point, runners on first and second, nobody out. The
leash is even shorter now if you're not gonna go
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get him, then all right, Starling Marte gets a two
run double down the left field line, and it's a
five to one game at that point. I can't afford
to have it go any further me. I would have
pulled him, high leverage reliever, get out of the inning
if you can without any more runs coming across, and
try to keep it a five to one game for
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as long as you can, knowing your offense at some
point is gonna get going and at some point they're
gonna score more than the one run that they did
off a wild pitch. At some point, one of these
guys is gonna hit it out. You're gonna string together hits.
You're gonna have maybe one of those innings you put
up a crooked number and you're right back into that game. Instead,
runs get tacked on and you're out of the game.
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And the holest that's too big to get out of
Tim and long Beach is next up here on Dodger Talk.
How are you doing?
Speaker 8 (41:04):
Tim?
Speaker 10 (41:04):
Great name By the way, they had my namesake. I
was going to skip formalities because I know you both
had better evenings and everybody's touching on is you know
I was one hundred percent with you on the high
rade and not in a negative connotation with the not
pulling clarity. I mean, this is a do or die game.
Put them home and then get the rest. For the
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Yankees that have to fly more than likely the Yankees
that have to fly cross country but I want to
couple that with Dave Roberts, and I've been his biggest
critic over the ten to twelve years, one of his
biggest critics. And what bothers me or they start with
a compliment. He came out of the gates for once,
for five or six games straight, managing close to perfect
as possible, right, making the right decisions with the pitchers,
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the batting order. I always say that these kids grow
up hitting both sides of the plate all the you know,
and then we have all these analytics that come into play.
I know that's not only Roberts, but they come up
hitting both sides of the plate, paying every position, and
we got all his tinkering going on and it hasn't
worked thus far. So not only with not pulling Clarity
when you should pull Clarity. Everybody, every Dodger fannew.
Speaker 9 (42:08):
To pull him. But why is he shuffling the lineup
now every night? I mean he was going with the
same lineup in the Padre series in the first two
games in this series without any tinkering, and now it's
Freddy in the fort hole with an injury. It's pushing
Will Smith to the I know he's struggling, but so
with Showhy and Mookie. At one point you pay these guys.
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I mean maybe you have a different opinion, but you know,
six runs should have been enough to win, that's the
bottom line. But still coming back and getting eight, nine
and ten runs. Why every night all of a sudden
is he changing the batting order? This guy here, this
guy there, this guy out, his lux injured? Why is
he out for two games in a row. You know
he got away with putting yea.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Lux wasn't in there because you had a left hand,
And I appreciate the phone call. We got to keep moving, Tim,
but thank you for the call. Lux Was it in
there to start because you had the left hander David
Peterson out there, and most likely we're going to see
Gavin Luck start on Sunday because you have Sean and
I out there. And I'm guessing Freddie Freeman's not playing
at least starting the game on Sunday one because of
his ankle.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
In two.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
The left tender mania and the ankle is bothering Freddie
Freeman so much right now. He was zero for five
with two strikeouts, and he's got no extra base hits
right now. For the Dodgers so far in this NLCS.
So that is a struggle. Taoscar Hernandez to me and
Will Smith are the two biggest mysteries. Where have they gone?
Will Smith has struggled all year. You've dropped them in
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the lineup now to seventh and eighth respectively the last
two games. And he's still late on fastballs. He's still
not able to connect and square up the ball. Taoscar Hernandez,
as great of a regular season as he had in
the NLDS he had, he has absolutely disappeared. He is
m Ia in this NLCS. Two punch outs tonight, oh
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for five. He's now hitless in this NLCS against the
New York Mets. Let's get one final call in before
we say goodbye. Let's go to If I don't get
to you, I apologize.
Speaker 7 (44:01):
You know what is he?
Speaker 2 (44:01):
You've been waiting patiently and I appreciate.
Speaker 11 (44:04):
That is he?
Speaker 7 (44:04):
How are you?
Speaker 14 (44:07):
I am so first lady thing this day? How it
happened today, it's unacceptable.
Speaker 7 (44:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 14 (44:15):
I agree with you with Dave Rob I'm really disappointed
in him today. It was just totally ridiculous. It was
I was really looking forward to reach every day, thank
you to really my weekend and guy. Oh and one
thing you can give day Rob with my phone in
the bait Oh there, If you give him my phone
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in this, he can call me and I can live
him because I'm just about ready to look it all right.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I know you want to talk to him. I just
don't feel comfortable giving his number to you. Is he
But maybe if he hears this and he's listening podcasting
on the long flight back from New York, maybe he'll
reach out to you. If he does, that's great. Is
I appreciate it? I hope it didn't ruin your weekend
for good? I mean, it's only Friday night. The Dodgers
are going to work out tomorrow, and there's still a
Game six to be played, and heck, there's still a
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Game seven to be played. If necessary, they gotta win
one game out of the next two. I like the
Dodgers chances against the New York Mets team with Sham
and Ya and who knows what's gonna be behind Manaya
if they have to go to a game seven. But
I think the Dodgers can get to Mania. Maybe his
luck's gonna run out in Game six. He's had a
good run. He's all of a sudden reinvented himself as
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the next Chris Sale. Maybe the wheels fall off for
Shaman and Noya, as they did as the game went along.
In Game two on Monday, they were able to get
to him. Not before though they were in a hole
big like they were tonight. Dodgers lose Game five of
the NLCS. Thanks to Colin Ee. Thanks for all you
Dodger fans for being a part of the show. Dodgers
had a chance to clinch it and go onto the
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World Series, but the Mets lived to fight another day,
and that will come on Sunday, Game six of the
NLCS out of Dodgers Stadium. Well I'm wrong, Goo CAUSEEO
Dodgers on deck beginning at four, first pitch in five
Oh await bullpen game for the Dodgers. Leftender Shamanayah will
go for the Mets. Until then, have a great, safe
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rest of your Friday night. Go out, decompress, enjoy yourself,
be safe, and let's get ready to rock at Dodger
Stadium on Sunday night. Let's get that place loud early
and often, and let's celebrate on Sunday night. Sound like
a plan until then, So long everybody
Now your host for playoff Dodger Toss.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Sound off, Angelinos Tim kaits Well, the Dodgers had a
chance to punch their ticket to their fourth World Series
in the last eight years. Instead they're getting on the
plane heading back to LA with a three to two
series lead in the NLCS. Hi, everybody, and welcome to
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postgame Dodger Talk here on your home of the Dodgers
and five to seventy LA Sports Star phone lines. Well,
you know the number eight sixty six, nine eighty seven
two five seventy eight six six nine eight seven two
five seventy as the Dodgers had a chance to win
Game five, win three straight at City Field and get
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a berth to the World Series. Instead, they've got a
fly back home workout tomorrow, and now they must win
Game six unless they want to play Game seven on
Monday night. And it's now a bullpen game on Sunday
night at Dodger Stadium. Aziel fe Sean Manya who will
go now for the New York Mets, who tonight pounded
out twelve runs against the Dodgers, eight of which given
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up from by Jack Flarity, who will start right there?
Jack Flarity tonight did not have it and did not
have it from the get go, a leadoff single to
Francisco Lindor of a walk to the next batter, Nemo,
and the first two batters were on in the first inning,
and two batters later, Pete Alonso a two to one
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pitch right over the middle of the plate, crushes it
to right center field, a three to nothing Mets lead.
He comes back out in the second inning a leadoff double. Somehow,
some way, gets out of the second inning without giving
up a run, despite Lindor crushing the ball almost fair
for another home run for the Mets. Instead, it was
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foul down the right field line, and they get out
of it with no runs scored in the second From
the Mets, the third inning was a complete disaster. And
at that point, if you're Dave Roberts, you have to
go get Jack Flarity oh two count to Pete Alonzo
to start off the third. It's a three to one game.
The Dodgers had scored in the second. You put up
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a zero in the bottom of the second somehow, and
it's still a three to one game. Bottom of the
third inning, You're still in it. He walks Pete Alonzo
after getting ahead o two in the count and a
couple of pitches just not even competitive, Pete Alonzo not
chasing him. Just one pitch fouled off and he walks.
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Pete Alonzo after getting ahead Zho and two. The next batter,
Jesse Winker four straight pitches out of the strike zone
for a four pitch walk. The first two batters of
the third walked by Jack Flarity. Mark Pryor came out
and talked to him. But nobody getting up in the bullpen.
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A three to one lead, shouldn't somebody be getting loose
to start the third inning. I understand you need Jack
Fleerry to give you some length you cannot cover with
the high leverage relievers that you have down there for
six or seven innings. I understand it. Dave Roberts said
that I get it. But it's a three to one
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game in the third inning, and after the first inning,
and then after the second inning, of which you dodged
a bullet and you put up a zero, but barely
in the second inning, the lineup turns over. It's the
heart of the lineup with Lonzo starting off the third inning.
Somebody needs to be getting loose. Somebody needs to start
getting ready just in case things really go south in
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the third inning. You've got to keep it close. This
Dodgers offense can score runs. We know that, we know
what they can do. But you can't dig a hole
so deep that you can't get out of it. But
that's exactly what happened. Back to back walks to lead
off the third inning, and still Jack Flarity stays in
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the game, facing Starlin Marte who doubles to left on
a pitch that was eighty eight miles an hour over
the heart of the plate. Two runs scored. It's a
five to one game, all right. At this point, somebody
go get Jack Flarity. It's a five to one game.
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It's still within reach. And I get there's nobody out
in the second inning, and you still have to have
a bullpen now cover at least seven innings. I understand that.
But outside of one reliever, that being Blake Trining, it
should be all hands on deck trying to pitch them
back to back games. Game three in Game four, probably
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not up for this game, pitching it for the third
day in three games. All right, everybody else should be
good to go high leverage, low leverage, mid leverage. They
should all be good to go to con tribute at
some point in some way. A five to one game,
at that point, you've got to cut the cord on
Jack Flaherty. You have to. You have to. Then you
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piece it together, you find out some way to keep
putting up zeros and let your offense chip away. In
a five to one game, it's a game where you
can clinch a World Series spot. Yet the Dodgers played
it as if, well, we got game six, what about
game six? We have to have pitching for Game six.
We have to have a bullpen for Game six. You
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may not need a Game six if you can keep
it close, chip away, keep the game within reach, and
win Game five. I know it's could have, would have,
should have, But at that point you have to think
five to one game, all right, let's keep it there,
Let's get somebody to get out of this inning, will
work inning to inning, and we'll hope that our lineup
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would just put up a ten spot twenty hours ago,
is gonna come and score some more runs than the
one they'd already had on the board. You have to
figure this Dodgers offense was one of the best so
far in the postseason, scoring runs in punches is gonna
score runs, and they eventually did score six total for you.
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But when you put yourself in a whole light they did,
it's too big of a hole to get out of.
But the hole should never have gotten that big three
to one, I go get him after the Marte double
five to one, Yeah, you're definitely gonna go get him.
But after the Marte double three batters later, Alvarez single,
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it's six to one and he's still in the game.
Lindor triple, it's a seven to one game and he's
still in there with two outs. Nemo single to right,
eight one game, and Jack Flaherty is still in pitching
in an eight to one game. He gets Viento's to
ground out to short inning, a five runs on four
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hit inning for the New York Mets and an eight
to one lead. I get saving guys for a possible
game six if you're late in the game and you
want to save a couple of those arms. But in
a closeout game, whether it's three to one and you
can keep it right there, or you can keep it
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at five to one, and I'm gonna roll the dice
with my offense, I'm gonna keep it at five to
one and say, bullpen, do your stuff for seven innings.
I need some of you guys to get an extra
batter or two to piece together seven. So at that
point I can give my offense to go out there
and get me four runs. I can get my offense
to get me back into this game. One swing of
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the bat, we're back in it. One big inning, a
crooked number, and it's a tie game. We're right back
in it. Three to one, all right, five to one,
crooked inning, we're back in it. We chip away at it.
I got confidence in my offense. They're gonna get more
than one run. You have to roll the dice. You
have a day off tomorrow and a game on Sunday night,
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plenty of time to get guys rest. And he's looking
at the usage going in today's game. Michael Kopek has
pitched once in this series, twelve pitches in Game three.
Trina has pitched in the first two games in New
York Games three and four, again probably off limits. Hasn't
pitched three straight games all season long. Evan Phillips pitched
thirty four pitches last night. Maybe he can get me
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an out, all right, All hands on deck, get me
an out. Evan Phillips, Ryan Brazier. He didn't pitch in
Game four. Daniel Hudson hasn't pitched since Game one. Anthony
Bonda hasn't pitched since Game two. Yet you bring him
in the eighth inning to get one batter. Brent Honeywell,
you brought him in and pitched, and he soaked up
innings and we applaud him. We'd tip our cap and
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our turtleneck to him, but he still gave up four runs.
Ben kiss berryus through thirty one pitches last night. Maybe
he can come out and give you something. Maybe not.
That was actually on Wednesday, So he is available to pitch.
Edgardo Henriquez. He pitched last night seven pitches. All right,
maybe he's not available, but maybe he is. He's a
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young kid with an arm of a young kid that
can go out there and help you out, and he
hasn't pitched a lot this season. In general. Landon Nack,
if you need somebody late in the game where you
just don't feel like you're gonna catch the Mets and
the game's out of reach, then you can bring in
Landon Nack. He can soak up the rest of the
innings and we get ready for Game six, but early on,
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in my opinion, to throw up the white flag and
say we can't go to our high leverage guys quite yet.
You know, we got a ride with Jack flairt he
just a little bit longer, you're letting the game get
out of reach, and it didn't necessarily need to get
to that point. All right, play Devil's advocate with you,
because some of the people are tweeting at me saying, well,
what if the high leverage guys come in and they
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still get hit around? If Dwinker still triples in the
fourth and McNeil still hits the sack fly and there's
runners on base in traffic everywhere. All right, If we
get to the fourth inning and it's ten to two,
like it was, and let's say one or two of
the higher le guys didn't have it tonight, that's when
you pull the ripcord and say we don't have it.
In Game five, we tried with Flarty, We tried with
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a couple of high leverage relievers to stop the bleeding
and keep us in a game, and it didn't work.
You know what we're gonna say, landing nac Britt honeywell,
eat up the innings. If we can we can come back, great,
but if not, we're getting ready for Game six and
we still feel really good about how our bullpen is rested.
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But instead we never got that opportunity. It felt like
Game two all over again, where landing that comes in
has a five run inning puts them in a big hole.
The Dodgers actually were one or two swings away from
getting back into that Game two and winning it despite
the early struggles. Tonight, down eight to one, it fell
out of reach. It really felt out of reach when
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they went up eleven to five, then up eleven to six,
and they go on and win it by a final
of twelve to six. To me, it's frustrating. It's not
second guessing in the moment. I imagine a lot of
you Dodger fans are with me, because heck, my phone
started to get hot from all the people calling and
texting me wanting to know why Jack Flaherty was still
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in the game. I don't know, not my decision. I'm
aren't there with you. Go to your high leverage guys.
Stop the bleeding, at least for an inning, put up
a zero. Stop the momentum of the New York Mets.
Baseball is a game of momentum. They put up three runs,
they threw five spot up in the third, it's eight
to one. It should never got to that point five
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to one. Send somebody in there, get out of that
inning a five to one deficit, and start piecing it
together after that, because if you put up a zero
in the fourth, a zero in the fifth, and next
thing you know, the Dodgers are attacking on runs. Pa
has is hitting a home run. It's all of a sudden,
a five to three game, and who knows, maybe you
tied it five and we got a whole new ball
game in the sixth inning. But you can never get
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to that point because you don't go to your high
end relievers to stop the bleeding early in the game.
Why to win and you move on. This isn't a
game in which you're down three to one and you
need to win this game and you have to worry
about game six and seven. I'm just as frustrated as
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you Dodger fans. Wholeheartedly don't understand why the Dodgers did
not make an effort to stop it where it was
at the third inning and continue to have Jack Flaherty
out there, the thinking of, well, there's still a lot
of baseball left in this series. Well, there doesn't need
to be. If you win Game five and you keep
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it at a five to one game, or you keep
it at a three to one game, you gotta have arms,
the high ends, the high end guys ready for Game
six or seven. The high leverage guys. Can't be responsible
for that many innings in this game. Of course they can't.
I get that. But somebody needs to come in and
stop the bleeding in the third inning, needs to come
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in and stop that big inning from continuing to happen.
When it's three to one and all of a sudden,
Marte hits a two run double to make it five
to one, it has to stop right there. It has to.
You've got to stop it so you can keep your
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offense still within striking distance and not put your team
in a hole yet again, not worry about Game six.
In game seven, you still have a shot to win
Game five, eight, six, six, nine, eighty seven two, five seventy.
Let's head back out to Citey Field. Jack Flaherty got
hit around tonight, eight runs, eight hits, a home run,
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two doubles a triple in three innings of work. Let's
go back out and hear from tonight's starter.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I feel like they made they made some adjustments, stead
a good job, and I feel like the first time
in a while I kind of let the game speed
up on me a little bit and it didn't make
the adjustments in game that maybe the only get made,
especially after that first inning where they put a couple
of good apouts together. Uh you tip your hat Topete
there on. You put a good swing on a pitch,
but it kind of showed and uh, yeah, I didn't
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make any I didn't make it. They didn't make adjustments
after that, and uh I kept going uh back to
the well and uh, you know, they did a good
job making adjustments and I didn't.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Is this one of those examples of when you do
face a team twice in the seven game series and
obviously you can kind of learn from them as you
hopefully can prepare for the World Series and what a
performance look like for in that series for.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
You' that's part of the the challenge of it.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
And you know what makes uh the postseason so interesting
is facing a team two times in a span of
of five days.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
And getting a chance to go right back at 'em.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
You know, they want to get get back for you know,
what went on in game one, and I.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Want to continue, you know, rolling through that. And that's
how the way it went.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
They they were able to do a good job, and uh,
the tip recap to them and h what they were
able to do and the the swings that they took
and the pitches they hit. So you know, we'll go
back and figure some things out and uh, you know,
make adjustments and you know, if I could take them
all in the next game, I would, I would, but
that's not the way the baseball works. So you know,
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Honey did a good job picking picking us up to
giving us some innings, Like guys kept showing some fight,
putting up six runs there. You know, just makes staining
a little bit more because I do is be average
and you know we're in this game, but you know,
you gotta regroup, go back to LA and uh, you know,
the next man up, and you don't exact.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
The game kind of speeding up, especially like that third
ending is kind of what what wrong?
Speaker 7 (15:32):
Meditting to where you couldn't.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
That's coming into It's not it's not that you know,
things keep going where its game speeds up and you
gotta make adjustments and sometimes there that happens, and especially
in the playoffs, things get getting magnified a little bit more. So,
Uh yeah, I didn't didn't didn't make adjustments in terms
of a bunch of different things that I'm not gonna
get into what I think that those are. And but yeah,
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it just is, Uh did to think something hasn't happened
in a while of letting the games speed up and
letting it you know, things cycle that quickly. So that's
it's baseball sometimes and you get a chance to learn
from it.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
What was the biggest difference between Game one and tonight?
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Was it just that lack of adjustments? I think so.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I think it's part of baseball's you gonna make adjustments
game to game and and pitch to pitch ending the inning.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
And I did not, you know, I just didn't do that.
They they did a really good job.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
You could see the swings they took and uh, you
see their game plan.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
So you know, move on the next one.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Jack.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
We all know your story, hometown guy. It's the team
you cheered for.
Speaker 9 (16:34):
How frustrating is it for you that you weren't able
to get it done for your team today.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I don't think me being growing up here has any
addition to being a frustrated I understand that this has
been a whole story and everything, but like it, there's
no added frustration because I grew up and I'd be
pissed off no matter where I was playing.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
So kind of tired of that.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
But I I be frustrated no matter what, and I'd
be static with that game one, no matter where I
was pitching.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
So no matter what, it's frustrating.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So it sucks, but you know, we got another one.
We get to go back to La and uh, you
don't get created by our fans.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
I was surprised for you to. Pete was able to
go down and get that ball and kind of equity
type man. He's a good player.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I watched him take take a change up below earlier
this year when I was with Detroit and do the
same thing with it, So you know, there's there's there's
a reason why he's he's He's good at what he
does and sometimes you tip your cap and make a
better pitch.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
The Bilo was a little down.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
It's kind of like the command was off.
Speaker 10 (17:35):
Is that situation, like you talked about, where it just
your body made it wasn't moving in the right.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Way or I felt good good going in.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I didn't really look up too much to see how
it was coming out.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
The hitters would tell you that. But the command was
I mean, walked forward.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I didn't been really good about not doing that all
year and those just get it, you know, amplified in
the playoffs. So again he's just just regroup, hope to
get another one and hopefully that this guy's picked me up.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
All right, there's Jack Flerity handled it well there talking
to the media, and yeah, I liked his answer about
the fact that it's because he's a homegrown kid from
LA doesn't mean more or less. You know that it
hurts the start tonight against the Mets. Yeah, impressive from
Jack flarerity to go and meet the media and talk
about his outing. I'm a little surprised nobody asked him
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about his velocity and if he feels okay and maybe
an explanation as far as why the v LO is
down and the command wasn't there. He talked about adjustments
and the game's speeding up on him. Mark Pryor went
out there once to talk to him, and then Starling
Marte hit the double after that, so there was a
break in the action. But I understand what he means.
The game's speeding up on you, and nexty you know,
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it's the next batter and the next batter, and you
just can't get it out and you're struggling. You're looking
around for somebody to help you or something to get
you out of this inning. I get that. I understand
what he's talking about there. But at the same time,
nobody wanted to ask him why he's throwing eighty eight
ninety ninety one miles an hour on his fastball and
his sinker and not having any control of his offstbed pitches.
His slider really had no bite on it at all.
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Tonight interesting more interested in asking about the storyline of
being a kid from Burbank. Apparently, so eight sixty six
nine eight seven two five seventy a disappointing nine for
the Dodgers, a game in which they clinch a berth
in the World Series. If they can beat the New
York Mets. Riding the momentum of a ten to two
win last night, they come out today had an opportunity
by the way, in the first inning, you can't can't
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do this without saying that the first inning, second and third,
nobody out. The Dodgers a golden opportunity to take the
lead in this game six Taoscar Hernandez grounds out to short.
Otani doesn't go home and score. The infield was deep
up the middle and the corners were pinching in a
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ball hit to the middle of the infield, you're going
on contact, you're scoring because they're going to throw it
to first to get the out and give up the run,
which they did. He didn't run, and the Dodgers left
Otawanni at third and stranded Mookie Bets at second because
Freddy Freeman lined out to Pee Alonzo and then Tommy
Edmond struck out to end the inning. So instead of
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taking a one to nothing lead, grabbing the momentum and
really putting your foot on the Mets to have to
answer in the first inning, it's a zero zero game
and Jack Flairity maybe goes out there with confidence instead
single walk. Two batters later, Pete Alonzo good night, four
hundred and thirty two foot home run and the Mets
take a three to nothing lead. Again it's three to one.
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After the Dodgers scored in the second, it's three to
one in the third until the Marte double, it's five
to one. I'm gonna say it again. Nobody warming up,
Nobody ready to go in a three to one game.
You're Dave Roberts. In my mind, this is just me speaking.
I can't let the game get away any more than that.
It's already three to one. If he continues to get
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outs like he did and get out of a jam
like he did in the second inning, great, okay, he's
gonna go back out there, a lead off walk after
having an two count on pin Alonso to go, then
for to throw four straight balls, and then four straight
balls not even close to Winker first and second. Nobody
out a three to one game? And Marteu, where's the bullpen?
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Where's where's the reliever to come in and stop the bleeding?
You leave Jack Flerty out there, gives up a two
run double. It's five to one that point, it's lights out.
I'm sorry. I go get him. I say, Jack, you
didn't have it tonight. We're gonna have the bullpen covered
tonight and try to keep this game within reach. At
five to one, instead, they leave him out there. He
scores three more, gives him a three more runs, and
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it said eight to one. Mets lead. Eight to one.
Mets lead at that point, and the Dodgers could not
come back. They made it close. Mookie Bets hit a
home run in the sixth inning that made it a
ten to six game. Dodgers were still right there, nobody
out sixth inning, ten to six game, but they couldn't
get any closer, and they couldn't score any more runs.
In fact, they give up two more and the Mets
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win it at twelve to six. All right, I've said
what I had to say. Let's go out to the phones.
Thanks for being patient, Javier and all Hammer start things
off here on postgame Dodger Talk. Go ahead, and Avier,
thank you.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
For taking my call.
Speaker 11 (22:08):
What a disappointing, embarrassing game to watch. I guess Dave
Roberts and the management staff didn't listen to what his
players were saying last night, how they wanted to close
out the series today. Right, you have a day off
tomorrow if you throw your big guns and your big
guns don't work, but you got to give the team
a chance. I just lost for words this You got
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to give the gun a chance. We've all I gotta say.
I just I can't say anymore. I think everything you
said is like fought on and it's just so frustrating
because what if you've just woken up a giant. You
can't get complacent. That's complacent managing. And that's all I
have to say. You can taking my call, all right?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Have you here? I'm right there with you. I can't
be at a lost words because this Dodger talk, and
I got to say something. But I'm frustrated because we
saw this in Game two, the Dodgers not going to
their high leverage relievers. We knew it was gonna bullpen game.
The plan didn't work out. Initially, you fall behind, but
the hole kept getting dug deeper and deeper and deeper.
And you've got an offense that's the best in baseball,
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and in a playoff game, you're down one, two, three,
four nothing. I still feel like this Dodgers offense can
come back, but you put yourself down eight to one
like they did tonight in the third inning, that feels
like a hole that's really hard to come out of,
and it's gonna take a lot of work from the
bullpen the rest of the way, and certainly a lot
of work from your offense to get back into this game.
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While all that being said, the Mets have momentum and
they got the crowd back into the game, so you're
working against that as well. Eddie and North Hollywood is
next up here on Dodger Talk, Mets take Game five
twelve to six. Hi, EDDI, how you doing?
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Wow?
Speaker 8 (23:48):
Thanks for having me on. I have a lot to say.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Tim.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
First of all, I gotta say I love your passion.
I will expecting me to here, Dave, but I guess
he's gotta go fly back with our loser team.
Speaker 9 (24:01):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
But to say the truth this game, you know, it
really falls on the shows that Dave Roberts. You know,
going back on game two. I listened to the w
talk after game two and you know you really went
in on you know, he went to Mac. He didn't
pull him early and today clearly didn't have it. Unfortunately,
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you know, Jack was a stud on game one. For
game two, he didn't have it. And after he walked
the first two guys, I was got. I was at Chili.
He's over here. I'm way over here in North cal
I made a delivery and it's like pull this guy,
pull him, and know he didn't pull them join us.
He struggled, he didn't have it. He sent him back
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out there third aning a lunch of walks, winker walks.
When he walked Winker, I was like, oh, come on,
I was on I was on Twitter like X like
somebody's in a bullpen, but nope, nobody was in the bullpen.
And then he hits out double down the line, and
you know t K is our best third baseman. But
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we had Monthy at that base and for some reason
he was playing up on the grass so he couldn't
backhand it. It went by him, and after that it
was all downhill.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Ye.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
Unfortunately, you know Freddy, I love Freddy, but right now, Freddy,
he's hurting the team. If we got mixed up for yeah,
he got mexed up for his base. If we got
mixed up for his base and we got a third,
who knows, maybe he can mix that play. But you
know what, We're gonna go back to LA and I'm
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very confident I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
I'm all right.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I appreciate your phone call. I'll let you I'll let
you go a lot of Dodger fans want away, and
I guess I get your frustration, and uh yeah, it's
it's a game at which the Dodgers win, and they
move on a lot riding on it, and to treat
it like, well, we got game six to fall back on,
and uh yeah, we're down on early, so we're gonna
stay away from our high, high leverage relievers. I just
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don't get it. I don't get it. I'm I'm a
chips all in kind of guy, and that's just me personally.
And I would have I would have kept fighting. I
would have kept saying three to one, I'm gonna keep fighting,
five to one, I'm gonna keep fighting again. I said
it earlier. At that point, if it's the high leverage
relievers come in a trying in a COPEC and they
give up a couple runs and it's all of a sudden,
a seven to one game or an eight to one
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game because those guys gave up the runs in the
third and fourth inning or however it turned out, then fine,
then I'm punting and then I'm going to land in
neck and Brett honey Well and thinking, Okay, I'm not
wasting ay more. High leverage, guys. I've used one or
two of them here. We just don't have it. But
to not even give them a chance to keep it
at three to one, to keep it at five to one,
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to me, that's right. I'm different. Adam in the four
h five, hopefully driving safe, two half the wheel, listen
to Dodger talk. Hi doing, Adam?
Speaker 12 (26:56):
How about you?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I'm okay, I'm okay. I'm a little frustrat right now.
I think a lot of Dodger fans are.
Speaker 12 (27:02):
Yeah. Well, first off, thanks for taking my call. I
just wanted to start off by saying, you know, I
grew up in Northridge, din our Dodger fans for as
long as I can remember, twenty twenty was the first
championship I've ever seen or listened to at Dodger stadiums.
But I'll be honest, I get as frustrated with a
lot of Dave Roberts's decisions throughout the playoffs in most
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recent years. First time I want to shout out to
go Bruins. You know, Eric Carrow, Dave Roberts Chase at
league got to support my UCLA Ruins. But I honestly
am not super upset with that decision. Being down five
to one obviously is not an ideal place to play.
We've been down that before and being able to come back.
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But you're in the driver's seat up three to one.
I understand where you're coming from. But if you don't
win this game, you have a day off brest those
Bulkan's arms are gonna be okay regardless.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yep, you're right, Adam. I appreciate it. You're absolutely right.
You have a day to get those arms rested. And
I told you earlier what the status was of those relievers.
Ben Kisparius pitched two innings or make that at Garl.
Henriquez pitched two innings last night, thirty four pitches and
an Indian and a third from Evan Phillips. Blake tried
and pitched as well.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
Try it.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I'm sure would take the ball asked. Evan Phillips would
take the ball tonight in whatever capacity if asked. In
a tight game, Henriquez is probably the only guy not available.
Everybody else is available, and like I said, again, the
high leverage relievers come in and they can't put a
zero up and they'll have you in trouble, and all
of a sudden they're tacking on more runs and it's
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turning into a blowout. Then you pull the ripcord and
say we're gonna live to fight another day. We're not
gonna use any more high leverage relievers, and we're gonna
get ready for Sunday. But he didn't get to that point.
You kept Jack Flaherty out there, runs kept coming in,
and then you put the game out of reach at
that point and didn't want to use the high leverage relievers.
Eight six, six, nine, eighty seven, two five, seven, will
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take a break, We'll come back. More of your phone calls. Yeah,
a lot of frustration from Dodger fans. I understand. I
understand your frustration. The Dodgers had a chance to close
it out, finish this series and get ready for the
Fall Classic, but instead they fly home now and have
to get ready for Game six. We're gonna get into
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the Dodgers offense as well. Two guys in particular struggling
Freddie Freeman. We may not see him in game six.
Ta Oscar Hernandez, Where did you go? Where is ta
Oscar Hernandez? Has anybody seen him here? In the NLCS?
Oh for four tonite two strikeouts he is now hitless
in the NLCS and struck out nine times. Your phone
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calls when we come back. It's postgame Dodger Talk. Mets
win Game five of the NLCS tonight in New York,
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Speaker 6 (30:14):
First base, out of the mound, Rookie Betts. It's a
hard left field pushing Nemo back, and he turns around
in Mookie Betts with a bomb all lead up home
run for Bookie in the six and the Dodgers are
within four.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Mookie Betts goes deep. Andy Pajez goes deep twice. Not
enough though, for the Dodgers, who fall to the Mets
in Game five of the NLCS twelve to six to
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will be a game six on Sunday right here on
a five to seventy LA Sports Marongo Casino. Dodgers on
deck will start at four o'clock. First pitch at five eight.
Shaman Naya, the left tender, will go for the Mets.
Dodgers will go with a bullpen game. Alex and Montabello
is next up here on postgame Dodger Talk. Hi, Alex,
I've been better? How about you?
Speaker 9 (31:11):
Yeah, we could have been better.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 13 (31:13):
How is it this team, you know, could lose the
opportunity of being the visiting team and could have scored first,
left those two men on bay and could have finished
it in New York.
Speaker 11 (31:22):
But no, they decide, you know, yeah, we could finish
it at all.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
Why not?
Speaker 11 (31:26):
You know, it's it just brings back more PTSD.
Speaker 13 (31:29):
So the past season that you know they're all three
to one, and you know the Mets is usually tie
it up.
Speaker 11 (31:35):
Here at home.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
It's no doubt, man.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I mean, you leave the door open. You leave the
door open, Alex. I appreciate the phone call. That's the
last thing you want to do is give this team
any more life. And now they've got that. Coming back
for a game six to Dodgers Stadium, they got a
little bit of momentum. They're feeling good. They just put
twelve runs up on your team, and now they've got
their best picture of the postseason. Shaman and Nya, who
just shut you down in Game two going in games,
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he's got all the confidence. The Mets got all the
confidence coming back to Dodger Stadium. So yeah, you have
to close the door when you have the opportunity. You
have to step on their neck, so to speak, when
you have the opportunity to take care of business and
finish them off. And I know this team was ready,
This team was focused. It's not an issue. This team
was not ready for this game. That's not the case
at all. But you have to take advantage of things.
(32:21):
And I think at this game tonight, at the point
where it got three to one then five to one,
you had to get to the bullpen and you had
to get to high end leverage guys for the Dodgers
to keep it that way, you couldn't treat it as well.
We just got to get innings. So we need somebody
to get two or three for us. And who's that
going to be? And we needed him, you know, to
go out there and need some more innings because we
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didn't have the coverage. You worry about that as you go.
You keep it as close as possible. I mean, hypothetically,
if the Dodgers are down three to one or five
to one, they come back, make it five to three,
make it five to five, they take the lead, somehow
they keep it a five to five game. It's a
whole new ballgame. And maybe you go to a landed
neck or Brent Honeywell to get two winnings and then
you go back to highland leverage guys. Maybe you take
(33:03):
the lead and you can afford then to go to
a land in neck or Brent Honeywell with the lead
and you win the game. You don't you have to
worry about pitching game six in a bullpen Game eight six,
six ninety seven two seventy. Adam and Phoenix is next
up here on Dodger Talk. I, Adam.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
So I think we need some no panic here, We
need optimism. You know we did Roberts said.
Speaker 12 (33:28):
What he did today.
Speaker 11 (33:29):
But you know what we need to go into game
six and seven.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Yeah, no panic, let's do this.
Speaker 11 (33:35):
Casey, I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I wouldn't say it's panic, and I appreciate it, Adam.
It's not panic. It is frustration because I think the
Dodgers are still in control of this series. They still
have the offense. I believe that's going to score runs
and hopefully get to sham and Aya on Sunday. I
have all the confidence in the bullpen, especially the high Land,
the high leverage guys to get it done for the Dodgers.
And you got Walker Bueller in case you need him
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in a Game seven. I'm confident the Dodgers need to
win one of ten two games to go to the
World Series. You've just now made it a little bit
harder for yourself and now you're gonna have to actually
get to Sean and I I'm not worried, I'm not panicking.
I'm frustrated because this was a game you could have won,
and I still feel you could have kept it close
and given your offense a better chance to get back
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into the game eight six, six, nine, eighty seven, two
five seventy. Daniel's next up here on Dodger Talk. Howre
you doing, Daniel?
Speaker 13 (34:24):
Hello, Yeah, everybody else, I'm I'm frustrated because of the
schematics within the game and you're only down two runs
and then maybe four runs, you're within one swing of
coming back. Maybe you bring in a high reliever for
one or two and give your offense a fighting chance.
But like you said, the risk is if if the
game still is the Mets blowout, not only do you
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have to go back to Kelly for Game six, but
you have two less high leverage guys doing it. That
being said, though you don't give the Mets. These Mets,
the way they've battled back all year long, they know
what it takes to come back. I kind of feel
like the position that it reminds me. They remind me
where the Cubs were in twenty sixteen in the World Series.
They were down three to one Game five at home,
their final home game of the year. They won that one,
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and then all of a sudden Game six and seven happened.
Everything about the misuperior Sean Manea, he has a chance
to be you darbish again, and it's been proven he
can do darvish things. Then all of a sudden, what
happens if the bullpen game blows up again? Then you
get a Game seven where it's fifty fifty and you're
not guaranteed Walker Wheeler can get you a performance like
right now, it's I jumped the frustration into more of
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pre determined anxiety because of what the Mets are still
capable of, especially the arms race at this point.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, yeah, Daniel, appreciate it. It is an arms race,
So I like the way you phrased that. But I
still believe the Dodgers have the offense to get it done. Again.
I'm not panicking. This is just frustration after a Game
five in which the Dodgers I think, you know, could
have fought, could have fought with more of an effort
from the bullpen. And again it's it could have what
it should have. It's a lot of what IFFs I
(35:57):
mentioned it at the scenario if you do go to
a highlight leverage reliever, a copek A trying in a
Daniel Hudson in the situation in the second or third
inning and they give up some runs, all right, then
we deviate some more, and we go to a Landon
Nack or a Brent Honeywell and ride them for as
many innings as possible and hope the offense chips away.
But to not even try to go to the high
(36:18):
leverage relievers to stop the bleeding in that second and
third inning, that's the problem I have with it. That's
the problem I have with it. Willie in Alabama checking
in on Dodger talking on this Friday night. How you doing, Willie?
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Great? Great? How you doing today?
Speaker 13 (36:35):
Missus team?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'm okay, I'm all right, I'm alright. I'm a little
frustrated as you can hear about you, Willie.
Speaker 7 (36:41):
See one thing I don't like about Robert just that
Robert give them up too quick and he had glag.
Tomorrow is promos. Tomorrow is not proms. He should have
stuffed that thing today ding to town, we find out
flatterer did hand. But let's I get so aggravated with
him like I did last year. Last year, I was
(37:04):
I was saying that that that we need a coach
that fight hard and never give up. That I don't
like the thing Robert do I just do it because
he would start starting pulling players in the late end
when theyre behnd, you know, like they're like it's impossible,
you know, for them to come back. I don't like it. Now.
(37:27):
I've been a Darger fan every since nineteen part eight. O. Yes, uh,
like my daddy was. Uh, my dad was a Darder fan.
Uh uh, way before I was born and everything, and
so I followed in his footsteps. But but I I
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I believe we need a coach that will fight and
fight again.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
You've seen a lot of baseball, Willie.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
This Dodger team, they've got enough in the tank right
game six, they can come back out. And this offense,
who knows they can put up another big number. And
we're talking about a Dodger blowout win this series, Willie,
You've seen it. This Dodger team has scored runs. This
this Mets team scored a lot of runs. It's been
five games of blowouts on on either side. It's been crazy.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
Yeah. Yeah, But but I feel like we could have
won today, no doubt. I feel like we could have
won today. You know, if he had to pulled him
when it was three to one and he walked, that's
quite better. I believe we should have pulled the right game.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I'm with you, Willie, Willy. Great to hear from you.
Don't be a stranger. Love hearing from you on Dodger talking.
Do this more often? Please, thank you though absolutely Willy
and Alabama been a Dodger fan since the forties. Yes,
love hearing from Willy from Alabama. Eight six six nine
eight seven two five seventy. Dodgers lose Game five of
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the NLCS tonight, twelve to six. Jack Flerry gives up
eight runs in three innings. He got tagged for a
three run home run from Pete Alonzo in the first,
Dora scuored a run on a wild pitch in the second.
It was a three to one game going to the
third inning. That's when Sterling Marte hit a two run
double with nobody out and runners on after back to
back walks to lead off that third inning for the
(39:14):
New York Mets. As will he agrees after that walk
to Pete Alonzo, I mean he was ahead oh to
two and then throws four straight balls to walk Pee Alonzo.
At that point, somebody's got to be getting loose. Somebody's
got to get up because it's a three to one game.
We got to keep it right there. I know he
(39:34):
just put up a zero in the second and Dave
Roberts talked about that. He got out of trouble in
the second inning. He gave up a leadoff double and
then was able to get three straight fly ball outs,
but not before Lindor almost hit one out by the
way down the right field line. Gets out of the
second inning, no runs, all right, got out of that one.
Wasn't easy, though, And the third inning gets ahead, oh
(39:55):
and two. Okay, maybe the first inning was a blip
on the radar. Maybe the second inning got out of
a jam. The thirty eight eating, he'll be lights out.
Be back to Jack Flaherty. All right, he got that
out of his system. Oh two to Pete Alonzo, four
straight balls and then four straight balls to Winker. At
that point, runners on first and second, nobody out. The
leash is even shorter now if you're not gonna go
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get him, then all right, Starling Marte gets a two
run double down the left field line, and it's a
five to one game at that point. I can't afford
to have it go any further me. I would have
pulled him, high leverage reliever, get out of the inning
if you can without any more runs coming across, and
try to keep it a five to one game for
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as long as you can, knowing your offense at some
point is gonna get going and at some point they're
gonna score more than the one run that they did
off a wild pitch. At some point, one of these
guys is gonna hit it out. You're gonna string together hits.
You're gonna have maybe one of those innings you put
up a crooked number and you're right back into that game. Instead,
runs get tacked on and you're out of the game.
(40:59):
And the holest that's too big to get out of
Tim and long Beach is next up here on Dodger Talk.
How are you doing?
Speaker 8 (41:04):
Tim?
Speaker 10 (41:04):
Great name By the way, they had my namesake. I
was going to skip formalities because I know you both
had better evenings and everybody's touching on is you know
I was one hundred percent with you on the high
rade and not in a negative connotation with the not
pulling clarity. I mean, this is a do or die game.
Put them home and then get the rest. For the
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Yankees that have to fly more than likely the Yankees
that have to fly cross country but I want to
couple that with Dave Roberts, and I've been his biggest
critic over the ten to twelve years, one of his
biggest critics. And what bothers me or they start with
a compliment. He came out of the gates for once,
for five or six games straight, managing close to perfect
as possible, right, making the right decisions with the pitchers,
(41:48):
the batting order. I always say that these kids grow
up hitting both sides of the plate all the you know,
and then we have all these analytics that come into play.
I know that's not only Roberts, but they come up
hitting both sides of the plate, paying every position, and
we got all his tinkering going on and it hasn't
worked thus far. So not only with not pulling Clarity
when you should pull Clarity. Everybody, every Dodger fannew.
Speaker 9 (42:08):
To pull him. But why is he shuffling the lineup
now every night? I mean he was going with the
same lineup in the Padre series in the first two
games in this series without any tinkering, and now it's
Freddy in the fort hole with an injury. It's pushing
Will Smith to the I know he's struggling, but so
with Showhy and Mookie. At one point you pay these guys.
(42:28):
I mean maybe you have a different opinion, but you know,
six runs should have been enough to win, that's the
bottom line. But still coming back and getting eight, nine
and ten runs. Why every night all of a sudden
is he changing the batting order? This guy here, this
guy there, this guy out, his lux injured? Why is
he out for two games in a row. You know
he got away with putting yea.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Lux wasn't in there because you had a left hand,
And I appreciate the phone call. We got to keep moving, Tim,
but thank you for the call. Lux Was it in
there to start because you had the left hander David
Peterson out there, and most likely we're going to see
Gavin Luck start on Sunday because you have Sean and
I out there. And I'm guessing Freddie Freeman's not playing
at least starting the game on Sunday one because of
his ankle.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
In two.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
The left tender mania and the ankle is bothering Freddie
Freeman so much right now. He was zero for five
with two strikeouts, and he's got no extra base hits
right now. For the Dodgers so far in this NLCS.
So that is a struggle. Taoscar Hernandez to me and
Will Smith are the two biggest mysteries. Where have they gone?
Will Smith has struggled all year. You've dropped them in
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the lineup now to seventh and eighth respectively the last
two games. And he's still late on fastballs. He's still
not able to connect and square up the ball. Taoscar Hernandez,
as great of a regular season as he had in
the NLDS he had, he has absolutely disappeared. He is
m Ia in this NLCS. Two punch outs tonight, oh
(43:50):
for five. He's now hitless in this NLCS against the
New York Mets. Let's get one final call in before
we say goodbye. Let's go to If I don't get
to you, I apologize.
Speaker 7 (44:01):
You know what is he?
Speaker 2 (44:01):
You've been waiting patiently and I appreciate.
Speaker 11 (44:04):
That is he?
Speaker 7 (44:04):
How are you?
Speaker 14 (44:07):
I am so first lady thing this day? How it
happened today, it's unacceptable.
Speaker 7 (44:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 14 (44:15):
I agree with you with Dave Rob I'm really disappointed
in him today. It was just totally ridiculous. It was
I was really looking forward to reach every day, thank
you to really my weekend and guy. Oh and one
thing you can give day Rob with my phone in
the bait Oh there, If you give him my phone
(44:35):
in this, he can call me and I can live
him because I'm just about ready to look it all right.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I know you want to talk to him. I just
don't feel comfortable giving his number to you. Is he
But maybe if he hears this and he's listening podcasting
on the long flight back from New York, maybe he'll
reach out to you. If he does, that's great. Is
I appreciate it? I hope it didn't ruin your weekend
for good? I mean, it's only Friday night. The Dodgers
are going to work out tomorrow, and there's still a
Game six to be played, and heck, there's still a
(45:01):
Game seven to be played. If necessary, they gotta win
one game out of the next two. I like the
Dodgers chances against the New York Mets team with Sham
and Ya and who knows what's gonna be behind Manaya
if they have to go to a game seven. But
I think the Dodgers can get to Mania. Maybe his
luck's gonna run out in Game six. He's had a
good run. He's all of a sudden reinvented himself as
(45:22):
the next Chris Sale. Maybe the wheels fall off for
Shaman and Noya, as they did as the game went along.
In Game two on Monday, they were able to get
to him. Not before though they were in a hole
big like they were tonight. Dodgers lose Game five of
the NLCS. Thanks to Colin Ee. Thanks for all you
Dodger fans for being a part of the show. Dodgers
had a chance to clinch it and go onto the
(45:44):
World Series, but the Mets lived to fight another day,
and that will come on Sunday, Game six of the
NLCS out of Dodgers Stadium. Well I'm wrong, Goo CAUSEEO
Dodgers on deck beginning at four, first pitch in five
Oh await bullpen game for the Dodgers. Leftender Shamanayah will
go for the Mets. Until then, have a great, safe
(46:06):
rest of your Friday night. Go out, decompress, enjoy yourself,
be safe, and let's get ready to rock at Dodger
Stadium on Sunday night. Let's get that place loud early
and often, and let's celebrate on Sunday night. Sound like
a plan until then, So long everybody
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