July 17, 2025 • 48 mins
Off-day Dodger Talk with David Vassegh as the Dodgers begin the second half of the season at Dodger Stadium with the Milwaukee Brewers.
Legendary Dodger "The Penguin" Ron Cey talks to Dave.
Legendary Dodger "The Penguin" Ron Cey talks to Dave.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Your attention, your firing. This is world champion, Dodgers, World champion.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Put a small song.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Time they get a people what they want to die too?
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
This ball's gone.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Grab your phone to get in on the show called
eight six six nine eight seven seven. Coach to the
show and now your host of Dodger Talk, David Vasse.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Welcome the Dodger Talk. David Vasse with you until eight
o'clock tonight here on AM five to seventy LA Sports.
The Dodgers back in action for the post All Star
breaks schedules starting tomorrow night at Dodgers Stadium. Dodgers versus
Brewers tomorrow at Dodgers Stadium for a three game series.
We all remember what happened before the All Star Break
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in Milwaukee. That's right, the Dodgers were swept in Milwaukee
in a three game series, first time ever the Dodgers
had been swept in Milwaukee in the franchise's history. So
the Dodgers will be looking for some payback this weekend
series against the Brewers. And I hope Jacob Misserowski is
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okay with everybody knowing who he is now? Does he
need Kershaw to escort him into the stadium? Does he
need Kershaw to sign him a baseball just to welcome
him to Dodgers Stadium. I hope Clayton Kershaw knows who
Jacob Mizowski is now. I mean, can you believe that
even before the All Star break people were making a
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big deal that Kershaw, who's been in the league for
eighteen years, didn't know about some kid who pitches in
the middle of nowhere, basically in Milwaukee five six starts,
Jacob Mizowski? Are you kidding me? And by the way,
Kershaw did give Mizerowski his love after he struck out
twelve Dodgers. Yeah, that was an impressive night. And yeah,
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now you're on Kershaw's our Miserowski. But come on, give
a future Hall of Fame or a break for not
knowing a kid that just called up after five starts, Because,
as we've heard Kershaw saying the dugout many times, price
prospects and number one draft picks don't mean a lot.
You got to prove it at the big league level,
and you got a lot more to prove. You can't
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just you know, act like you're the man after five
or six starts. So I hope Jacob Mizerowski's feelings and
everybody's feelings in Milwaukee are not going to be hurt
this weekend series. Okay, we know who you are, We
get it. Yeah, Kershaw knows who you are. Now anyway,
Dodger Talk the last show before the second half begins,
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the stretch run here. Blake Snell should be returning here shortly.
He did pitch in Arizona during the All Star break.
He'll be going out for a rehab assignment at TRIPAA
Oklahoma City while the Dodgers are playing on this homestand
and then after that, you know, the Dodgers go out
on the road for their longest road trip of the
second half, Boston, Cincinnati, and Tampa. I would expect Snell
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to be back by the end of that road trip
at the latest, considering everything he's done already. So that's encouraging.
They got Glass now. Back before the All Star break,
Yamamoto got a breather that he needed. Kershaw's in there
and Machian's in there. Otani should be stretched out a
little bit more. But really, when you look at the Dodgers,
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it's more about their position players. I hope the break
rejuvenates Mookie Betts physically mentally. I know Freddy didn't have
a lot of break playing in the All Star Game
and being in Atlanta, but you just hope he got
the care he needed for his right ankle. You hope
Taoscar Hernandez got a lot of rest, and hopefully that
left groin issue is behind him and that left foot
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issue is behind him. So the All Star break came
at the right time for the Dodgers and we'll see
how refreshed they look against a very good Brewers team
beginning Tomorrow night. And Tomorrow night is not only the
first game post All Star break, but it's also a
big night for one of the great Dodgers and arguably
the greatest Dodger third baseman, not only in LA history,
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but Dodger history period, and that's Ron Say. Ron Say
is going to get his due tomorrow night before the game,
being inducted into the Legends of Dodger Baseball before Tomorrow
Night's game, and those that are in attendance, I believe
the first forty thousand fans in attendance will receive a
Ronse bobblehead and look, his nickname was the Penguin. He
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was one of the best third basemen of his generation.
The only problem for Ron Say is he always got
overshadowed by Mike Schmidt. He also obviously got overshadowed by
the guy at first base in Steve Garvey. But Ron
Say one of the great players, not only in Dodger history,
one of the all time great players we have seen
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in the last fifty years. And looking forward to having
Ron say on. In about ten minutes, you'll hear from
the Penguin. The Penguin is going to join us. We
are going to celebrate the Penguin because he deserves to
be celebrated and that's going to be special for him
tomorrow night, to be celebrated at Dodgers Stadium. I know
it means a lot to him, So kudos to the
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Dodgers for selecting him to be part of this club.
Also coming up at the bottom of the hour, you'll
hear from Blake Trinon had a chance to catch up
with him before he embarked on his rehabit Simon, so
he's on the way back as well. You know, since
it is the eve of the Dodgers getting back to
play after the All Star break. I thought it was
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a good time for us to do an eighties type
montage of the top plays of the first half. Colin
Yee has really found his sweet spot putting together these montages.
So here are the top Dodger plays of the first
half of the season.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
The drama builds another three two.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Mikie swings high fable let field in deep.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
This bowl's back, this ball's time, keep simply magic. He
rolls their tosses his helmet to the sky.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
And the Dodgers walk up glitters.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
All right, ho, well this we'll keep fitting if there
were an end right here and everyone on their feet
at Roger Stadium.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
So hey, old Tony on his bubblehead night first piss
swinging high drive blot center.
Speaker 8 (06:45):
Field at the wall.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Oh my goodness, so hail Tony, let's say you no swing.
He's headed home head once again.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
The Dodgers walk off winners.
Speaker 9 (07:08):
So now Tommy Edmund, looking at the first pitcherman.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Rake us base head right field, Conforida comes in there
comes pie, has Dodgers win it. Tommy Hedman walks it
off seven six Dodgers win.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Edmond.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
Then wait around, he's smacked it in the right field
of The Dodgers hit their nineteenth win of the season.
Their second and extra innings. Tommy Hedman is mobbed out
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there the pitch, the Oscar ricks.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
It fear down the line into the left field corner.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Here comes Will Smith.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Finally somebody breaks through and they wear Dodger blue.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Well. The Yankees mdp wind Yard in the first. The
Dodgers are hoping their guy can do the same. Show Hey, O'tani,
with twenty home runs on the season, steps in, let
me freed former brave into his windup. Dixon deals first pitch,
swinging hit in the air while the left center.
Speaker 8 (08:22):
Field did you so? Hey?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Old Tani ties it in a blame Old Toni and
Bush is freed twenty first home run of the year
travels four hundred and seventeen feet.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
We are level at one Yi.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
One pitch has hits a high drive.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Left field on the warning track.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
It is got again.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
There was a leaping effort from Lockridge at the wall.
He had a chance, couldn't come up with it. He
slammed his glove and now Andy Pots rounds the vases.
Here's two for two with a pair of home runs
and this game is tied at three. A loud and
long strike for Swore is now the O two pitch
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Smith first the fly ball right center field. Tatis on
the run, hit the warning track.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Hit the wall, hit it gone.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
It's gone, and this team is over. Jill Scott be.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
On the reach of Bernando Tatis Junior.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Will Smith comes home and now we go home. They
celebrate in front of the play oh walk up.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Home run for Will Smith.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
The Dodgers went in the ninth four to three.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I mean, this is just unique.
Speaker 9 (09:50):
Two two. He went around that strike three, got up
with a sweeper first strikeout girl Johnny, and there are
two away.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
You know, you start to look at the tony two
what he's been able to do, and they tossed that
bolt out of the game. A souvenir for someone. But
if you have that break involve you start to get
odd swings. That's really something that'll be a souvenir.
Speaker 9 (10:14):
Because that's the first strikeout for Otani has a Dodger
one ball, two strikes, two capra better than fifty thousand
on their feet at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
One two pitch strike three.
Speaker 9 (10:30):
Cold there it is.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
He got him with a slider strikeout number three thousand
for Tyton Kershaw history at Dodger Stadium. They will stop
the game, Kershaw toughing his cap to the crowd. There's
adoring crowd here at Dodger Stadium as Clayton Kershaw anchors
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the three thousand club, just the twentieth member and only
the fourth left hander in the history of the game
with three thousand strikeouts, every one of them coming in
a Dodger.
Speaker 9 (11:10):
Uniform stretch by Wilson. In the first pitch coming to
Freddie Freeman, he swings and it's a base hit to right.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
Oh, Taddy are out third, He comes to the play.
Dodgers win. Dodgers win, the fifteenth career walkoff hit for
Freddie Freeman, and the Dodgers come all the way back
to win at five to four on a special night
at Dodgers Stadium where a selloff crown witnessed. Clayton Kershaw's
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three thousand strikeout and Freddie Freeman for the walkoff hit
gives the Dodgers their fifty fifth win of the season.
Speaker 9 (11:53):
Oh, how do you.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Great job? By calling you great job? With that montage,
A lot of great moments for the Dodgers, who had
times had the best record in baseball and certainly are
at the top of the National League record wise, even
though they kind of limped into the All Star break,
but looking for a big second half, a big push.
This is everything the Dodgers have talked about the first
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half of the season, just getting everybody healthy, getting their
roster full for the second half of the season, and
it looks like they're accomplishing that with their pitchers. They
just need to keep their position players healthy and hopefully
Max Munsey comes back by the end of August. That's
what you're hoping for right there. Eight six six nine,
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eight seven two five seventy is the phone number. And
don't forget about the trade deadline on July thirty first.
That is only two weeks away, so we'll see what
moves Andrew Friedman has up his sleeve. I know a
lot of you and others out there keep talking about pitching, pitching, pitching.
I actually believe the Dodgers could use another whether it's
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on the infield or in the outfield. I would root
for an outfield bat Byron Buxton participated in the home
run derby. He would be a guy if the Dodgers
felt like he could stay healthy. He's under contract until
twenty twenty eight. Taylor Ward of the Angels is another guy,
Jared Duran. I know the Red Sox and their fan
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base had a lot of excitement over beating the Rockies
before the All Star Break, but we've heard rumors going
back to the first month of the season the Red
Sox were shopping Jaron Duran because they have such a
logjam of good young position players, and look, I would
be all in to have a long beach steak guy
Jared Duran on the Dodgers. So if you had to
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tell me the Dodgers can only make one move, I
would say get more offense. They have enough pitching. Eight six, six, nine, seven, two,
five seventy is the phone number. And speaking of pitching,
show hey Otani, He's going to extend himself more and
more as the season goes on. He should be wrapping
up the rehab phase of what we saw before the
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All Star break and starting to see him go deeper
into games as the second half goes on. So not
only do the Dodgers have glass now and snow coming back,
they already got glass now. Not only are they going
to have Blake Trenon back, but you're gonna get a
fully functional pitching show, Hey Otani and a guy that
knows how to manage that better than Dave Roberts because
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he's been through it before. This is the first time
Dave has been through the two way experience of show
Aotani is Dave Roberts. Good buddy, Phil Nevin. I had
a chance to catch up with Phil Nevin. And how
about this a so cow guy that grew up listening
to Vin Scully and still has so much, so much
emotions about when Vin Scully called his games and met
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his family and certainly has that same connection that we
all do that listened to Vin growing up. So here's
Phil Nevin about Vin Scully and also the Otani way experience.
Speaker 10 (15:01):
Yeah, and in fact, when I was with the Giants
his last year, a lot of a lot of guys
were going up to the press box because it was
his last year. And when I was the third base
coach for the Giants, I made sure I went.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Up and said hi to him.
Speaker 10 (15:13):
And think about him, is he didn't never he never
forgot anybody's name. I walked in, he knew my name,
And I think that was of all the famous people
I've met that knew my name like hearing it from him,
probably the most special.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Phil Nevan is our guest, and we.
Speaker 10 (15:27):
All got a chance to play for Roggy Gurrito, And
I think that's the mold.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I think that's the.
Speaker 10 (15:31):
Consistency with the three guys you're talking about. I'm just
fortunate to be one of them. Both guys are two
of my best friends in the world. But I think
we learned so much through Oggie talking about the relationships
you make in the game and what you take from it.
And we certainly took our relationships even though we never
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played together, are you know, closeness because of the school
And it's still that way, and we'll all go play
golf still we get together in the winter. It's just
baseball is just a special game altogether, and we were
lucky enough to play in a really special baseball park.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Do you remember Justin Turner being your bat boy?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I do.
Speaker 10 (16:11):
I do, because there's a little red head of kid,
and I remember him getting hit in the face at
the College World Series and then what he's turned into
as well. You know, I we there's titans still scattered around.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
We have one h.
Speaker 10 (16:24):
A player that plays in our double in our system
and he's in Double A. I was just there last
week and the first thing, you know, we walk in Hey,
and it's just kind of you're Titans.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
And you know it.
Speaker 10 (16:33):
And even though I'm kind of like his coach or
you know, he's in the system I worked for, it's
it's still that same, you know, welcome and you know,
you just have that connection.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
You mentioned the relationship you had with Dave Roberts Davis
reference to your name quite a few times since so
Tani became a Dodger. How much has Dave tapped into
how to manage a guy so unique with you.
Speaker 10 (16:55):
Figure out he's first of all, what he does on
the field is different from everybody. And I'm not going
to make it sound like he's on his own program,
but I've never been around somebody And I told Dave
this when he got him that understands his body and
what he needs to do to play every day is
somebody he'll never have to worry about. And those, obviously
are the best players that we have that you just
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know he's gonna be out there and you know he's
gonna be prepared, and you don't have to follow him
around and make sure he's doing the right things. And
he wants to be the best player in the world.
I said this all the time when he was with me,
from the time he wakes up to the time he
goes to bed, and even those hours in between his
sleep quality. He does everything in his life to be
the best player in the world, and obviously it's working.
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But the way he does things and goes about his
business is like nothing I've ever seen, and Dave will
tell me the same thing. It's really special what he's
able to do.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Can you envision him being built back up or do
you hear guys like Barry Bond say that maybe he
should leave pitching in his past.
Speaker 10 (17:55):
No, No, it's just what he does is too special
and he knows what his body is capable of doing.
Nothing that he's going to do on a baseball field
from here on out is going to surprise me. So
if you told me you know, by mid August September
he's at full strength to start a game and have
a complete start and going into the playoffs. I mean,
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like I said, nothing would surprise me at all to
see him pitching eight innings in Game seven of a
World Series if it gets there, like I would, and
I would absolutely unless it's against the White Sox and
where I'm at, I would absolutely be rooting for that.
Being around him for the two years I was, it's
genuine how much he wants to win, the competitor that
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he is, so watching the World Series last year and
seeing the smile on his face afterwards was really gratifying
for me.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Have you seen a different Otani since he became a Dodger.
Speaker 10 (18:48):
Well, I mean I think I see him smile a
little more because he's winning and that's what he has
always wanted to do in this game. And it was
just really neat to see. I saw in the World
Baseball Classic a little bit. People said it just because
he was around, you know, people from his own country,
an entire team, but that had nothing to do with it.
He he genuinely just wants to win and wants to
be on top and be the last man standing. And
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to see him how that opportunity last October was really
special for me because I know what kind of person is.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Phil. Thanks a lot for the time. You're a so
coow baseball legend with a lot of experience and your
son one day will be a Dodger too. It'll be
great to see you out here more and more.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
All right, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
That's pretty cool. Phil Nevin. He works for the White
Sox now in their front office. His son Kyle Nevin
is in the Dodgers farm system as well. But you know,
Dave Roberts is learning on the fly here how to
manage Otani Otani Doctor elatrosh Andrew Friedman all in the
conversation here on how to manage him moving forward. So
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certainly Dave Roberts has a great tool at his disposal,
and Phil Nevin to kind of navigate, you know, hey,
what do you do when he's feeling this way? And
let's see whether or not Otani will continue to lead
off on the days that he pitches, because it's no
longer win inning two innings, three innings. It's gonna if
this is going to happen, it's gonna be four innings,
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it's gonna be five innings. It may even be six innings.
So let's see how O'tani reacts. He hasn't done this
in a while either, Maybe he'll conceive that, yeah, maybe
hitting third might be the best. And even if he's
not pitching. I would be an advocate for Otani to
hit third, so there's more guys on base for him. Anyway,
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that's the status of the Dodgers, Otani and Colin Yee's
top ten plays of the first half. When we continue
on Dodger Talk, we'll check in with the greatest third
baseman in Dodger history, the one and only Penguin, Ron Say,
who'll be honored tomorrow night at Dodgers Stadium. Ron Say
the Penguin will join us next right here on AM
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five seventy LA Sports. David Vasse with you until eight
o'clock tonight here on AM five to seventy LA Sports.
The Dodgers back in action tonight against the Milwaukee Brewers.
Our coverage begins at six o'clock, with first pitch at
seven ten. And before the game, we will have another
great member of the Dodger family inducted into the legends
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of Dodger Baseball, in my opinion, the greatest Dodger third
basement in the history of the franchise that includes Brooklyn, La, Bakersfield,
wherever you want to say it. This guy was the
best third baseman in Dodger history. A six time All Star.
He was one of the try MVPs of the nineteen
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eighty one World Series, and he was really clutch when
it mattered, the most forty five postseason games and he
had an eighth three ops. And tomorrow night he'll be
inducted into the Legends of Dodger Baseball, celebrated before first pitch,
that is the one and only Penguin Ron Say, Ron,
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thanks a lot for the time.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Thank you so much David for having man Hey.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Congratulations as well as you will be celebrated rightfully so
at Dodgers Stadium tomorrow night. What are your feelings about
forever being remembered at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 11 (22:14):
You know, obviously it's a tremendous honor. You know, we
have one of the most traditionally rich in history in
Major League Baseball franchises, in all of baseball, and.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
It's an honor.
Speaker 11 (22:31):
It was an honor back in nineteen sixty eight when
I was drafted by the Dodgers. It was a dream
come true to eventually reach my childhood dream. And what
took place in the Dodger organization back then when they
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were flying high back in the sixties with three World
Series appearances, couldn't have been a better setup for me.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I know other sports always talk about how many rings,
what you do in the postseason. I feel like baseball
doesn't celebrate players like yourself that delivered and the biggest
moments in October. I know you have the highest war
of any player in Dodgery history, but your postseason performance,
to me is what really stands out.
Speaker 11 (23:22):
You know. Fortunately, you know I had some games, you know,
there was probably one game at least, you know, a
series that you know I kind of earmarked, which was,
you know, very fortunate.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
My second game back in.
Speaker 11 (23:37):
Nineteen seventy four against the Pirates in Pittsburgh, we had
a one zero lead over the Pirates and I had
a four hit game with two doubles in a home run,
and that kind of got me started on that. You know,
here's one game that you know, I was kind of
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you know, in control. There was a couple of World
Series games. There was other National League Playoff games, the
very first NLCS game against the Phillies in nineteen seventy seven,
game in which we lost. He hit the first NLCS
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Grand Slam home run off Steve Carleton the tide the game,
and we eventually ended up losing the game in the
ninth inning, but Dusty Baker came back the next day
and got us started. He hit the second Grand Slam
home run and we were able to then go on
and beat the Phillies three games to one.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
But yeah, there were.
Speaker 11 (24:43):
Some games, even in the eighty one World Series, you know,
Game three, bag of Dodger Stadium, when we were down
two games to none. You know, Fernando was pitching, and
he did not have a typical Fernando game.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
He was wild and made a lot of pitches.
Speaker 11 (24:59):
I think he gave up seven walks and nine hits
and five runs or four runs, and we and he
went the distance. And I had a big game, going
two for two with a three run home run that
got us off the deck with two walks, and it
was a perfect game at the play. And then I
made a defensive play that got us out of a
jam later in the game. So uh, yeah, I managed to,
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you know, have a game in a series that you know,
I was very thrilled to be able to do all that.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
But yeah, they're there, there are there. Those are great
moments for us.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I mean, that was the reason why you were one
of the members of the try m vps of that
World Series. And I know you wrote a book, ron Say,
Penguin Power. Does that make all those memories more vivid
because you put them down in print? Or when you
describe them right now? Are they as vivid as they
were when they happened?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Well, they're they're pretty vivid, you know.
Speaker 11 (25:54):
I I described, you know, my most important moments from
from World Series down, World Series, Nationally Championship Series, you know,
the playoffs, regular season. Now, there's a lot of terrific
regular season games that I had, but they don't match
up with the ultimate goal. And once you reach your
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ultimate goal and to win the World Series rather than
just participate in.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
It and had the MVP award that went along with it.
Speaker 11 (26:30):
And in that game six of nineteen eighty one, I
returned after getting beamed by Goose Gossage, which under today's protocol,
I would have been boxed for the rest of the series.
But hardhead or not, it was left up to me
back then. But I did play and I ended upating
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to it's in that game actually the one that propelled
us into the lead in the fifth inning, I believe it.
And then we broke the game open so yeah, so
I came out of that game because I got a
little dizzy and I didn't want that responsibility to beyond myself.
We had a comfortable lead at the time. Worst case scenario,
I could have come back and played the.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Next day as well. So yeah, unbelievable moments, the culmination of.
Speaker 11 (27:20):
A lot of time together, finally achieving what we.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Expected to do.
Speaker 11 (27:28):
We had the longest running and most successful infield of
Major League history. By fact, that was the last game
that that infield would play together, and that's why they
call it the infield.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And we had the first thirty.
Speaker 11 (27:41):
Home run for us and in major League history back
in nineteen seventy seven, and we broke all the attendance
records and that was before Fernando Mania, and so we
just had a tremendous group of guys that really understood
the challenges and responsibilities of playing for the Dodgers, and
we carved our own special history within our history and tradition,
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and so we're all very pleased with the way that
it went. And playing for the Dodgers at that point
in time, you know, was you know, we were on
top of baseball and it was a thrill and.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
At honor, always did it with class. Those were those
Dodgers and Ron say certainly a big part of the
Dodgers' success from the seventies and through the nineteen eighty
one World Championship and then would head to Chicago. But Ron,
you know, I wanted to ask you this because the
Dodgers just came off beating the Yankees in the World Series.
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For those group of players that played with you in
seventy seven and seventy eight, would you look back at
your career differently if you weren't able to have redemption
against those guys in pinstripes in eighty one.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (28:53):
I don't like to langer too much on things that
might have happened. You know, we had a series of
nineteen seventy eight that I think got out of control.
That was a series that I felt that we should
have wanted. If we would have had an instant replay,
I think that it would have justified.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
My opinion on that.
Speaker 11 (29:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was unfortunate, but it really did
swing the momentum towards the Yankees, and that that got
away from us. But the idea that we were able to,
you know, come back and regroup and get this done.
You know, before the infield was done playing its time
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together was you know, a very special moment. And you know,
I'm just extremely thrilled that we were able to have
as much success that we did during that period of time.
The nucleus of that team for the ten year period
was the infield. So it's really kind of hard to
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imagine looking back on it, that you could have four
guys play that long together. Yeah, and there's so many obstacles.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
In front of you.
Speaker 11 (30:12):
You know, people get hurt a lot and easily today
in the game. Try try try to keeping four guys
that aren't missing games for eight and a half years. Uh,
It's it's almost impossible. Now, it's got to be a
pigment of your imagination, you know, UK, you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
And yet we did.
Speaker 11 (30:31):
And there was only one other team I think they
even got halfway to that number.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (30:37):
And and so there is really no comparison to what
we did. And uh it was just an unbelievable time
for for us and and Dodger baseball back then.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
No doubt about it. The greatest infield in baseball history,
that is the voice of the greatest third basement in
Dodger history, and he will be celebrated before tomorrow night's
game at Dodger Stadium. Being part of the legends of baseball.
You were bigger than life. You guys were rock stars
in Los Angeles. You kind of go down Ventura Boulevard
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without everybody noticing you guys. I mean, I'm not sure
people realize that in Hollywood, the Dodgers of the seventies,
your teams, you guys were just as big as any
movie star out there.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Well, we had a lot of play, that's for sure.
Speaker 11 (31:23):
There were opportunities and you know, we met and had
you know, our Hollywood stars.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Game back then was.
Speaker 11 (31:33):
Top of the line, top shelf, and we had all
the stars out there and they were the big stars
and and it was so great to be able to
revail bows with them. And they were in the clubhouse
a lot as well.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
And so yeah, we.
Speaker 11 (31:52):
We we did have our share of Hollywood and you know,
the the restrictions, the security back then was pretty minimal,
so you know, we were they were all over the place,
and it was it was just a great time and
some mutual benefit for all of us.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Hey, Ron, did you ever get starstruck? In the clubhouse
while you're getting ready for a game or after a
game and you see whoever whichever actor walked in. Were
you ever taken by surprise that that person wanted to
be around you.
Speaker 11 (32:23):
I think it was that kind of a mutual understanding that,
you know, there was great respect for both of us.
You know, I remember meeting Dustin Hoffin for the first
time and I introduced myself and he says, I know
who you are, and so you don't need to do
that anymore.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
And so that was kind of the way it is.
Speaker 11 (32:47):
It was, you know, we had you know, Sinatra was
in the clubhouse with Don Rickles a lot, and you know,
I brought my guys in. They wanted to come in,
which is Fleetwood Mac you know, and their logos the
pain Woman and the Penguins. So we had a fond
relationship going on there. I went to many concerts I've
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I've spent I spent a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
With him back then.
Speaker 11 (33:10):
I was at the recording UH recordings for their albums
in the studio getting to see that happen. So yeah,
it was a very special time for us. Don't want
to be name dropping too much here, but it was
It was a lot of fun. And uh, I look
looking back on it, you know, I sometimes I run
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across a reminder that, oh yeah, I met him too,
or I met her too, and.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
It was just a very special time.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Well, tomorrow night will be special, Ron Say, part of
the legends of Dodger Baseball will be celebrated before first pitch,
and you also get a bubblehead of the Penguin tomorrow
night as well. Ron can't wait to see you at
the ballpark, and congratulations on this honor. It really does
bring it full circle on a great career.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Thank you so much, David. And see out there.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
There he is the man the Penguin, Ron Say. We'll
see him out there at Dodgers Stadium tomorrow. When we
continue on Dodger Talk, we'll check in with Blake Trining.
Had a fun conversation with him about where he's at
in his recovery. Don't go anywhere more Dodger Talk around
the corner right here on a five to seventy LA Sports.
Thanks again to Ron Say for joining us in our
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last segment looking forward to tomorrow night, where Ron Say
is going to be celebrated before the Dodgers and Brewers
kickoff the post All Star Breaks schedule at Dodgers Stadium.
Ron Say inducted into the Legends of Dodger Baseball. Looking
forward to that tomorrow at Dodgers Stadium before Dodgers Brewers.
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Our pregame coverage begins with Tim Kats at six o'clock,
first pitch at seven ten between the Dodgers and Brewers,
And like we mentioned at the top of the show,
the Dodgers need to to remind the Brewers who they
are and not let them get away with sweeping them
in Milwaukee and getting away with a series win here
at Dodgers Stadium. So hopefully the All Star Break did
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a lot of Dodgers good and they come back and
show the Brewers that they are still the defending World
Series champion. So looking forward to that, looking forward to
Ron Say being celebrated before the game and being part
of the Legends of Dodger Baseball. I mentioned the Dodgers
are getting a lot of their pitching back, and everybody
focuses on glass Now and Snell, and yes that's true,
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but also a big part of the Dodger bullpen has
been missing for quite some time, and that is one
of the key heroes of last year's World Series run,
Blake Trinan, who's a two time World Series champion with
the Dodgers twenty twenty and of course last year, there
is no Walker Bueller heroics if Blake Trinan doesn't do
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what he did last year, and the Dodgers certainly have
missed him. But Blake Trinan is on his way. He's
in the process of rehab starts in Oklahoma City, and
I had a chance to catch up with another fun
conversation with Blake Trying before he head out for Oklahoma City.
All right, I can't ignore my other Blake. Blake Trying in,
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a two time World Series champion, is on his way back.
And we're in the Dodger clubhouse with the Blake Trynan
who's wearing his World Series gold hat right now backwards.
He's got his beard perfectly quaffed, he's got his hair
perfect even when he takes that hat off, and he's
allowed me to be in his locker room space. So
I appreciate the time.
Speaker 12 (36:33):
Blake, Yeah, no problem, you're just talking really loud right now,
Dave so great be on your show.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Thanks for having me, Am I loud talking in the clubhouse.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
You are loud talking.
Speaker 12 (36:41):
It's make me a little uncomfortable. I'm waiting for a
Lou to do a dynamite d dynamite drop in over here.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
So hey, did you know did you know, sweet Lou
Trevino not Italian?
Speaker 12 (36:51):
Nah, He's a Ecuadorian Ecuadorian, Puerto Rican and Pennsylvania Dutch.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
There that is a good friend. Nothing gets by this,
Blake tryning.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
How many Ecuadorians are in the big leagues.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I don't think many.
Speaker 12 (37:07):
Yeah, we might be the best of all time. We
should look it up. Okay, we'll look it up.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Blake. You've thrown two live batting practices. I feel like
that's more of a simulated game. How did how did
you feel after those two?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Uh? Good and bad? In both good.
Speaker 11 (37:24):
Good.
Speaker 12 (37:24):
In the first one with how I executed against lefties,
I thought I was able to, you know, execute a
couple of sequences that I've used in the past, things
that I've had to adjust to in the past, you know,
like mixing up first pitches differently and then executing late
with different pitches. And the righty I faced was okay.
You know, I had some pitches that were good that
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first one that were good that I executed, But I
hate walking guys, especially in a sim when these guys
are coming up from Rancho or wherever and they're anticipating
getting strikes, and you know, you walk a guy.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
It's kind of frustrating.
Speaker 12 (38:00):
Yesterday was better Versariety for sure, and a lot worse
VERSU Lefty, So I gotta give up a fly ball
out to left, a five pitch walk on competitive, and
then a two pitch singled over the second basement. So
that's that Part's frustrating, but overall good coming out of it. Well,
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checking boxes each day, so yeah, we're in a good place.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
It seems like relievers have a different type of schedule
than starters. Obviously, do you have to complete and start
from spring trending all over again where you're in six, seven,
eight rehab games before you come back.
Speaker 12 (38:40):
I haven't had a chance to look at the schedule completely,
but I think when we get to that point, it's
it's gonna be closer to that idea than somebody who's
been throwing it is on like a fifteen day and
comes back.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
As you saw with Kirby.
Speaker 12 (38:54):
You know, Kirby had a had a quick stint and
through it maybe one Sam game and was back with
the guys. Because he never really stopped throwing. It was
something totally different. But I think when you're dealing with
our issues that keep you out for a while to
where you can't throw and you have to take an
extended period of time off. I was just four to
five weeks of no throw, you know, so that's an
off season rest. So you got to build all the
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way back up, reramp back up to some capacity, and
make sure that when you come back, you're not handcuffing
the manager on when to use you and then screwing
the rest of the guys in the bullpen with maybe
some unwanted three out of fours or you know, two
out of three's or three straight. You know, you don't
really want to come back and be the guy that's
causing other people to not get a break when they've
been grinding all year. So just making sure the'm in
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a good place bounce back wise, health wise, stuff wise,
and that there's no reservations when I get back. That's
the biggest goal.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Blake Trinon is our guest Blake. I don't know if
you view yourself this way, but when we see you
on the mound, even in simulated games. You have this
presence in this era of a two time World Series champion,
a guy that meant a lot to the Dodgers last October.
Do you feel that way? I mean, does it feel
different to be that guy?
Speaker 12 (40:04):
I don't really view it that way. To hear other
people speak highly of you and like maybe the character
in the way you carry yourself like that's probably the
ultimate compliment. So thanks for that. If that's how people feel,
then even better. Ultimately, I go back to it. People
know my heart, it's to serve and honor God with
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the talents he's given me. So when I'm out there,
I'm not playing for mediocrity. You know, I've got a
God to bless. I've got a family to bless and
an organization to bless who's blessed me and my family
more than I could imagine.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
So how do I do that?
Speaker 12 (40:40):
It's my skill set and my talent that I've been
anointed with and blessed with.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
So I'm trying.
Speaker 12 (40:44):
To live in the ability I've been given and execute
the best I can to be the best picture in
baseball in the role the Dodgers trust me in. So yes,
I want to be dominant. Yes, I want to have success,
and it's for multitude of reasons. So if you guys
see this competitive edge or demeanor that you like to
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talk about, then that's a good thing because that means
that my mind is in a great place in my
attitude and competitiveness reflects that.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
So yeah, I thank you for the praise. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
I feel like batters are feeling that too. That's the
most important thing, you know, when you it's one now.
I mean all those guys yesterday they were intimidating.
Speaker 12 (41:20):
They'll stop it day if the hitters have had like
a three month hiatus of having to face me, so
they've gotten some other nasty guys in our pen.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
You know.
Speaker 12 (41:29):
It's the hardest thing about being on the IL is
probably sitting and not competing, you know.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
And you play this game because you love the sport.
Speaker 12 (41:39):
You crave the competition and everything comes with it, the good,
the bad, the emotions.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
That are good and bad.
Speaker 12 (41:46):
If everything was great and you wouldn't appreciate the good times,
you know, because you wouldn't have anything to.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Compare it to.
Speaker 12 (41:51):
So certainly done a lot of reflecting through this process
and it's probably been the hardest one for me. Yeah,
I think so, because you work so hard to get
back from the shoulder, which you knew it was gonna
be a process, and this one you know it's gonna
take time, but it's so it's just so different. The
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other one was finite. You knew you needed to have
procedures and there's a process that you've been prepared for
before you go into it. And this one, it's like, man,
you think you you think you get over that hurdle,
and something else, you know, creeps in for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
And now I'm dealing with the elbow.
Speaker 12 (42:27):
But you know, by the grace of God, it's it's
been going good and I've I'm feeling stronger and healthier,
and yeah, it's just been really trying, you know, Like
especially when you see guys you've been used a lot.
You know they can handle it, they're they're they're pros.
But not being there to help out is really hard.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
What's it been like to see those bullpen dogs this
version of it, to see the guys to step up
like best the end, the two young kids, Jack Dryer
and Benksparious.
Speaker 12 (42:56):
Yeah, I mean Alex has been doing it for years now,
it's like it's fifth year doing it for us. It's
great to have somebody like Tanner who's such a strong, healthy,
you know, workhorse Guy's very diligent. That's why he stays
strong and durable. He's very diligent with what he goes through.
He's very well put together, like athletically and in his strength.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
You have a guy like Kirby who knows how to
take the ball every day.
Speaker 12 (43:21):
Also, all these guys that we've added, it's definitely a
new blend. I mean, there's not a lot of turnover
from last year that's still here, but we have a
lot of new guys who fit the mold of being
selfless and that are ultra competitors.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
And it's refreshing to see guys.
Speaker 12 (43:40):
Like Jack and Ben who come up who either take
the mindset of learning to pitch with their stuff, which
Jack does an amazing job of and Ben is really
close to that, and I think he's morphed into a
guy that's learning to pitch with his great stuff. And
last year it was throw strikes with your great stuff
and watch how guys won't figure you out of the leagues.
Learned a little bit about him and he's adjusting with
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the league. So it's what they've both been able to
do is a huge part of why we're where we're
at because we've had a lot of ups and downs
with injuries or you know, lulls and performance when guys,
you know, we go through it sometimes and we get
frustrated because we believe we should be perfect every time.
But that's why we're good at what we do, because
we demand greatness from ourselves and from each other. So yeah,
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it's been it's been a great dynamic. I haven't really
you know, been full into it because I'm not on
the road with everybody, but when they're here, you know,
just kind of sitting around and kind of seeing how
things are going. We've got a lot of guys who
like to stay fairly quiet and locked in, whereas in
maybe years past, there's a little bit more looseness throughout it.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
And part of the problem is I'm a totally different guy.
Speaker 12 (44:48):
When I'm on the il than when I'm playing, you know, Like,
so I'm chatty Kathy towing a line of I know
when I need to leave and come down to the
dugout and when they start getting ready to hot and
warm up and come in the game. I'm out of
there because I know that I would cross the line
just being too chatty.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
That's part of being a pro, right. You got to
pay attention to like your weaknesses.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
You gotta be like me. You gotta have some feel Blake.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Uh, I'm gonna defer on that comment, Dave.
Speaker 12 (45:16):
Dave, you don't have feel You're You're not a radio
guy to have feel like you're you're on radio because
you got a bubbling personality and people like that.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
You toe the line of it appropriate. You know, it's
like the fact.
Speaker 12 (45:27):
That you're so comfortable laid back in client saucer's chair,
you know, like I need you, I need you to
reel it back in.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
You're loud talking to me in the clubhouse.
Speaker 12 (45:37):
Nobody else can ask questions, so like it's irrelevant for
them to be in here right now. It's just there's
not a lot of feel. Well, that's it was literally
changing over your shoulder and you're sitting here like.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
I was locked in on you. Ish Ish, that's the
greatest phrase and description ever towing the line of inappropriateness.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, yeah, well hey, you know what you know, ask
sure go there you go.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
My humid.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
The source right here, Blake trying.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
To like, can we get some new shoes? Sure those
are tough.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
All clean them up, I know, like.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
The biggest thing. Just hit it with a wet rag
at least once a week.
Speaker 12 (46:11):
That's you're on You're you're on the field where there's
a massive amount of dirt and and you looks like
you've let your dog chew on them.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Well, it just shows you like the grind of a
baseball radio reporter or the lack of care maybe both.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Not a lot of attention to detail.
Speaker 12 (46:26):
I mean, when you're not put behind a camera, you
don't really have to pay attention to what you look like.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
It's more what you sound like.
Speaker 12 (46:33):
First game, after the when you show up, when you
show up for you know, philing to do TV worked out?
Speaker 3 (46:38):
How nice you put yourself together?
Speaker 1 (46:40):
What do you talk What are you talking about? Night's
button down right now? Today? Maybe the shoes, I mean
you're just trying to find.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
There's just everything else is fine as the shoes are tough.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Okay, I like your uh, your flip flops.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
I just got done throwing Dave.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
We'll leave it right there.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
This is the last last interview you get get with
that's it. What do you mean, I'm done?
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Oh, come on, done, done Dave, for today, just today,
don't worry about all. Yeah, you can't quit me.
Speaker 12 (47:07):
I can quit you for sure. I respect the position
too much. The other hard thing about playing is there
are certain things that come with a job. It's not
that we want to do is we have to do it,
you know.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
So you're right. I can't quit you until I quit baseball.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
So I can't wait. That'll be five years from now, folks,
five years from that.
Speaker 12 (47:25):
He doesn't even care about the players. He just cares
about getting a hot take. How about this hot take?
We're done?
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Okay, sounds good. Thanks a lot for the time, Blake.
It's great to see you smile. I know it's been
a long process, but I'm here to support you. I'm
the wind beneath your wings.
Speaker 12 (47:40):
All right, So without the corniness, has been great having
a conversation with you.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
You're the man, Dave.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Appreciate you, Blake trying. He's always keeping me honest. He's
always keeping receipts on me, even looking at my shoes
when they're dirty in the clubhouse. I mean, come on,
we're at a baseball Stadium anyway, love catching up with Blake,
can't wait to see him back with the Dodgers, and
hopeful there's a scenario where you could have Blake Trining
and Bruce Star Graderol back in the Dodger bullpen by
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the time the postseason comes around. So looking forward to that.
Thanks to Ronnie Fossio for all his help, Thanks to
Colin Yee for his great montage earlier in the show,
Thanks to ron Safe for joining us, and of course
Blake Trenon for keeping me honest. We will talk to
you tomorrow night from Dodgers Stadium Dodgers Brewers at seven ten.
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Fox Sports Radio is next. Have a great rest of
your night, Sea,
Your attention, your firing. This is world champion, Dodgers, World champion.
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Welcome the Dodger Talk. David Vasse with you until eight
o'clock tonight here on AM five to seventy LA Sports.
The Dodgers back in action for the post All Star
breaks schedules starting tomorrow night at Dodgers Stadium. Dodgers versus
Brewers tomorrow at Dodgers Stadium for a three game series.
We all remember what happened before the All Star Break
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in Milwaukee. That's right, the Dodgers were swept in Milwaukee
in a three game series, first time ever the Dodgers
had been swept in Milwaukee in the franchise's history. So
the Dodgers will be looking for some payback this weekend
series against the Brewers. And I hope Jacob Misserowski is
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okay with everybody knowing who he is now? Does he
need Kershaw to escort him into the stadium? Does he
need Kershaw to sign him a baseball just to welcome
him to Dodgers Stadium. I hope Clayton Kershaw knows who
Jacob Mizowski is now. I mean, can you believe that
even before the All Star break people were making a
(01:36):
big deal that Kershaw, who's been in the league for
eighteen years, didn't know about some kid who pitches in
the middle of nowhere, basically in Milwaukee five six starts,
Jacob Mizowski? Are you kidding me? And by the way,
Kershaw did give Mizerowski his love after he struck out
twelve Dodgers. Yeah, that was an impressive night. And yeah,
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now you're on Kershaw's our Miserowski. But come on, give
a future Hall of Fame or a break for not
knowing a kid that just called up after five starts, Because,
as we've heard Kershaw saying the dugout many times, price
prospects and number one draft picks don't mean a lot.
You got to prove it at the big league level,
and you got a lot more to prove. You can't
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just you know, act like you're the man after five
or six starts. So I hope Jacob Mizerowski's feelings and
everybody's feelings in Milwaukee are not going to be hurt
this weekend series. Okay, we know who you are, We
get it. Yeah, Kershaw knows who you are. Now anyway,
Dodger Talk the last show before the second half begins,
(02:39):
the stretch run here. Blake Snell should be returning here shortly.
He did pitch in Arizona during the All Star break.
He'll be going out for a rehab assignment at TRIPAA
Oklahoma City while the Dodgers are playing on this homestand
and then after that, you know, the Dodgers go out
on the road for their longest road trip of the
second half, Boston, Cincinnati, and Tampa. I would expect Snell
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to be back by the end of that road trip
at the latest, considering everything he's done already. So that's encouraging.
They got Glass now. Back before the All Star break,
Yamamoto got a breather that he needed. Kershaw's in there
and Machian's in there. Otani should be stretched out a
little bit more. But really, when you look at the Dodgers,
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it's more about their position players. I hope the break
rejuvenates Mookie Betts physically mentally. I know Freddy didn't have
a lot of break playing in the All Star Game
and being in Atlanta, but you just hope he got
the care he needed for his right ankle. You hope
Taoscar Hernandez got a lot of rest, and hopefully that
left groin issue is behind him and that left foot
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issue is behind him. So the All Star break came
at the right time for the Dodgers and we'll see
how refreshed they look against a very good Brewers team
beginning Tomorrow night. And Tomorrow night is not only the
first game post All Star break, but it's also a
big night for one of the great Dodgers and arguably
the greatest Dodger third baseman, not only in LA history,
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but Dodger history period, and that's Ron Say. Ron Say
is going to get his due tomorrow night before the game,
being inducted into the Legends of Dodger Baseball before Tomorrow
Night's game, and those that are in attendance, I believe
the first forty thousand fans in attendance will receive a
Ronse bobblehead and look, his nickname was the Penguin. He
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was one of the best third basemen of his generation.
The only problem for Ron Say is he always got
overshadowed by Mike Schmidt. He also obviously got overshadowed by
the guy at first base in Steve Garvey. But Ron
Say one of the great players, not only in Dodger history,
one of the all time great players we have seen
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in the last fifty years. And looking forward to having
Ron say on. In about ten minutes, you'll hear from
the Penguin. The Penguin is going to join us. We
are going to celebrate the Penguin because he deserves to
be celebrated and that's going to be special for him
tomorrow night, to be celebrated at Dodgers Stadium. I know
it means a lot to him, So kudos to the
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Dodgers for selecting him to be part of this club.
Also coming up at the bottom of the hour, you'll
hear from Blake Trinon had a chance to catch up
with him before he embarked on his rehabit Simon, so
he's on the way back as well. You know, since
it is the eve of the Dodgers getting back to
play after the All Star break. I thought it was
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a good time for us to do an eighties type
montage of the top plays of the first half. Colin
Yee has really found his sweet spot putting together these montages.
So here are the top Dodger plays of the first
half of the season.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
The drama builds another three two.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Mikie swings high fable let field in deep.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
This bowl's back, this ball's time, keep simply magic. He
rolls their tosses his helmet to the sky.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
And the Dodgers walk up glitters.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
All right, ho, well this we'll keep fitting if there
were an end right here and everyone on their feet
at Roger Stadium.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
So hey, old Tony on his bubblehead night first piss
swinging high drive blot center.
Speaker 8 (06:45):
Field at the wall.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Oh my goodness, so hail Tony, let's say you no swing.
He's headed home head once again.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
The Dodgers walk off winners.
Speaker 9 (07:08):
So now Tommy Edmund, looking at the first pitcherman.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Rake us base head right field, Conforida comes in there
comes pie, has Dodgers win it. Tommy Hedman walks it
off seven six Dodgers win.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Edmond.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
Then wait around, he's smacked it in the right field
of The Dodgers hit their nineteenth win of the season.
Their second and extra innings. Tommy Hedman is mobbed out
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there the pitch, the Oscar ricks.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
It fear down the line into the left field corner.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Here comes Will Smith.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Finally somebody breaks through and they wear Dodger blue.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Well. The Yankees mdp wind Yard in the first. The
Dodgers are hoping their guy can do the same. Show Hey, O'tani,
with twenty home runs on the season, steps in, let
me freed former brave into his windup. Dixon deals first pitch,
swinging hit in the air while the left center.
Speaker 8 (08:22):
Field did you so? Hey?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Old Tani ties it in a blame Old Toni and
Bush is freed twenty first home run of the year
travels four hundred and seventeen feet.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
We are level at one Yi.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
One pitch has hits a high drive.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Left field on the warning track.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
It is got again.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
There was a leaping effort from Lockridge at the wall.
He had a chance, couldn't come up with it. He
slammed his glove and now Andy Pots rounds the vases.
Here's two for two with a pair of home runs
and this game is tied at three. A loud and
long strike for Swore is now the O two pitch
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Smith first the fly ball right center field. Tatis on
the run, hit the warning track.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Hit the wall, hit it gone.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
It's gone, and this team is over. Jill Scott be.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
On the reach of Bernando Tatis Junior.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Will Smith comes home and now we go home. They
celebrate in front of the play oh walk up.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Home run for Will Smith.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
The Dodgers went in the ninth four to three.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I mean, this is just unique.
Speaker 9 (09:50):
Two two. He went around that strike three, got up
with a sweeper first strikeout girl Johnny, and there are
two away.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
You know, you start to look at the tony two
what he's been able to do, and they tossed that
bolt out of the game. A souvenir for someone. But
if you have that break involve you start to get
odd swings. That's really something that'll be a souvenir.
Speaker 9 (10:14):
Because that's the first strikeout for Otani has a Dodger
one ball, two strikes, two capra better than fifty thousand
on their feet at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
One two pitch strike three.
Speaker 9 (10:30):
Cold there it is.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
He got him with a slider strikeout number three thousand
for Tyton Kershaw history at Dodger Stadium. They will stop
the game, Kershaw toughing his cap to the crowd. There's
adoring crowd here at Dodger Stadium as Clayton Kershaw anchors
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the three thousand club, just the twentieth member and only
the fourth left hander in the history of the game
with three thousand strikeouts, every one of them coming in
a Dodger.
Speaker 9 (11:10):
Uniform stretch by Wilson. In the first pitch coming to
Freddie Freeman, he swings and it's a base hit to right.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
Oh, Taddy are out third, He comes to the play.
Dodgers win. Dodgers win, the fifteenth career walkoff hit for
Freddie Freeman, and the Dodgers come all the way back
to win at five to four on a special night
at Dodgers Stadium where a selloff crown witnessed. Clayton Kershaw's
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three thousand strikeout and Freddie Freeman for the walkoff hit
gives the Dodgers their fifty fifth win of the season.
Speaker 9 (11:53):
Oh, how do you.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Great job? By calling you great job? With that montage,
A lot of great moments for the Dodgers, who had
times had the best record in baseball and certainly are
at the top of the National League record wise, even
though they kind of limped into the All Star break,
but looking for a big second half, a big push.
This is everything the Dodgers have talked about the first
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half of the season, just getting everybody healthy, getting their
roster full for the second half of the season, and
it looks like they're accomplishing that with their pitchers. They
just need to keep their position players healthy and hopefully
Max Munsey comes back by the end of August. That's
what you're hoping for right there. Eight six six nine,
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eight seven two five seventy is the phone number. And
don't forget about the trade deadline on July thirty first.
That is only two weeks away, so we'll see what
moves Andrew Friedman has up his sleeve. I know a
lot of you and others out there keep talking about pitching, pitching, pitching.
I actually believe the Dodgers could use another whether it's
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on the infield or in the outfield. I would root
for an outfield bat Byron Buxton participated in the home
run derby. He would be a guy if the Dodgers
felt like he could stay healthy. He's under contract until
twenty twenty eight. Taylor Ward of the Angels is another guy,
Jared Duran. I know the Red Sox and their fan
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base had a lot of excitement over beating the Rockies
before the All Star Break, but we've heard rumors going
back to the first month of the season the Red
Sox were shopping Jaron Duran because they have such a
logjam of good young position players, and look, I would
be all in to have a long beach steak guy
Jared Duran on the Dodgers. So if you had to
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tell me the Dodgers can only make one move, I
would say get more offense. They have enough pitching. Eight six, six, nine, seven, two,
five seventy is the phone number. And speaking of pitching,
show hey Otani, He's going to extend himself more and
more as the season goes on. He should be wrapping
up the rehab phase of what we saw before the
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All Star break and starting to see him go deeper
into games as the second half goes on. So not
only do the Dodgers have glass now and snow coming back,
they already got glass now. Not only are they going
to have Blake Trenon back, but you're gonna get a
fully functional pitching show, Hey Otani and a guy that
knows how to manage that better than Dave Roberts because
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he's been through it before. This is the first time
Dave has been through the two way experience of show
Aotani is Dave Roberts. Good buddy, Phil Nevin. I had
a chance to catch up with Phil Nevin. And how
about this a so cow guy that grew up listening
to Vin Scully and still has so much, so much
emotions about when Vin Scully called his games and met
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his family and certainly has that same connection that we
all do that listened to Vin growing up. So here's
Phil Nevin about Vin Scully and also the Otani way experience.
Speaker 10 (15:01):
Yeah, and in fact, when I was with the Giants
his last year, a lot of a lot of guys
were going up to the press box because it was
his last year. And when I was the third base
coach for the Giants, I made sure I went.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Up and said hi to him.
Speaker 10 (15:13):
And think about him, is he didn't never he never
forgot anybody's name. I walked in, he knew my name,
And I think that was of all the famous people
I've met that knew my name like hearing it from him,
probably the most special.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Phil Nevan is our guest, and we.
Speaker 10 (15:27):
All got a chance to play for Roggy Gurrito, And
I think that's the mold.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I think that's the.
Speaker 10 (15:31):
Consistency with the three guys you're talking about. I'm just
fortunate to be one of them. Both guys are two
of my best friends in the world. But I think
we learned so much through Oggie talking about the relationships
you make in the game and what you take from it.
And we certainly took our relationships even though we never
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played together, are you know, closeness because of the school
And it's still that way, and we'll all go play
golf still we get together in the winter. It's just
baseball is just a special game altogether, and we were
lucky enough to play in a really special baseball park.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Do you remember Justin Turner being your bat boy?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I do.
Speaker 10 (16:11):
I do, because there's a little red head of kid,
and I remember him getting hit in the face at
the College World Series and then what he's turned into
as well. You know, I we there's titans still scattered around.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
We have one h.
Speaker 10 (16:24):
A player that plays in our double in our system
and he's in Double A. I was just there last
week and the first thing, you know, we walk in Hey,
and it's just kind of you're Titans.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
And you know it.
Speaker 10 (16:33):
And even though I'm kind of like his coach or
you know, he's in the system I worked for, it's
it's still that same, you know, welcome and you know,
you just have that connection.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
You mentioned the relationship you had with Dave Roberts Davis
reference to your name quite a few times since so
Tani became a Dodger. How much has Dave tapped into
how to manage a guy so unique with you.
Speaker 10 (16:55):
Figure out he's first of all, what he does on
the field is different from everybody. And I'm not going
to make it sound like he's on his own program,
but I've never been around somebody And I told Dave
this when he got him that understands his body and
what he needs to do to play every day is
somebody he'll never have to worry about. And those, obviously
are the best players that we have that you just
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know he's gonna be out there and you know he's
gonna be prepared, and you don't have to follow him
around and make sure he's doing the right things. And
he wants to be the best player in the world.
I said this all the time when he was with me,
from the time he wakes up to the time he
goes to bed, and even those hours in between his
sleep quality. He does everything in his life to be
the best player in the world, and obviously it's working.
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But the way he does things and goes about his
business is like nothing I've ever seen, and Dave will
tell me the same thing. It's really special what he's
able to do.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Can you envision him being built back up or do
you hear guys like Barry Bond say that maybe he
should leave pitching in his past.
Speaker 10 (17:55):
No, No, it's just what he does is too special
and he knows what his body is capable of doing.
Nothing that he's going to do on a baseball field
from here on out is going to surprise me. So
if you told me you know, by mid August September
he's at full strength to start a game and have
a complete start and going into the playoffs. I mean,
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like I said, nothing would surprise me at all to
see him pitching eight innings in Game seven of a
World Series if it gets there, like I would, and
I would absolutely unless it's against the White Sox and
where I'm at, I would absolutely be rooting for that.
Being around him for the two years I was, it's
genuine how much he wants to win, the competitor that
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he is, so watching the World Series last year and
seeing the smile on his face afterwards was really gratifying
for me.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Have you seen a different Otani since he became a Dodger.
Speaker 10 (18:48):
Well, I mean I think I see him smile a
little more because he's winning and that's what he has
always wanted to do in this game. And it was
just really neat to see. I saw in the World
Baseball Classic a little bit. People said it just because
he was around, you know, people from his own country,
an entire team, but that had nothing to do with it.
He he genuinely just wants to win and wants to
be on top and be the last man standing. And
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to see him how that opportunity last October was really
special for me because I know what kind of person is.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Phil. Thanks a lot for the time. You're a so
coow baseball legend with a lot of experience and your
son one day will be a Dodger too. It'll be
great to see you out here more and more.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
All right, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
That's pretty cool. Phil Nevin. He works for the White
Sox now in their front office. His son Kyle Nevin
is in the Dodgers farm system as well. But you know,
Dave Roberts is learning on the fly here how to
manage Otani Otani Doctor elatrosh Andrew Friedman all in the
conversation here on how to manage him moving forward. So
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certainly Dave Roberts has a great tool at his disposal,
and Phil Nevin to kind of navigate, you know, hey,
what do you do when he's feeling this way? And
let's see whether or not Otani will continue to lead
off on the days that he pitches, because it's no
longer win inning two innings, three innings. It's gonna if
this is going to happen, it's gonna be four innings,
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it's gonna be five innings. It may even be six innings.
So let's see how O'tani reacts. He hasn't done this
in a while either, Maybe he'll conceive that, yeah, maybe
hitting third might be the best. And even if he's
not pitching. I would be an advocate for Otani to
hit third, so there's more guys on base for him. Anyway,
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that's the status of the Dodgers, Otani and Colin Yee's
top ten plays of the first half. When we continue
on Dodger Talk, we'll check in with the greatest third
baseman in Dodger history, the one and only Penguin, Ron Say,
who'll be honored tomorrow night at Dodgers Stadium. Ron Say
the Penguin will join us next right here on AM
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five seventy LA Sports. David Vasse with you until eight
o'clock tonight here on AM five to seventy LA Sports.
The Dodgers back in action tonight against the Milwaukee Brewers.
Our coverage begins at six o'clock, with first pitch at
seven ten. And before the game, we will have another
great member of the Dodger family inducted into the legends
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of Dodger Baseball, in my opinion, the greatest Dodger third
basement in the history of the franchise that includes Brooklyn, La, Bakersfield,
wherever you want to say it. This guy was the
best third baseman in Dodger history. A six time All Star.
He was one of the try MVPs of the nineteen
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eighty one World Series, and he was really clutch when
it mattered, the most forty five postseason games and he
had an eighth three ops. And tomorrow night he'll be
inducted into the Legends of Dodger Baseball, celebrated before first pitch,
that is the one and only Penguin Ron Say, Ron,
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thanks a lot for the time.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Thank you so much David for having man Hey.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Congratulations as well as you will be celebrated rightfully so
at Dodgers Stadium tomorrow night. What are your feelings about
forever being remembered at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 11 (22:14):
You know, obviously it's a tremendous honor. You know, we
have one of the most traditionally rich in history in
Major League Baseball franchises, in all of baseball, and.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
It's an honor.
Speaker 11 (22:31):
It was an honor back in nineteen sixty eight when
I was drafted by the Dodgers. It was a dream
come true to eventually reach my childhood dream. And what
took place in the Dodger organization back then when they
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were flying high back in the sixties with three World
Series appearances, couldn't have been a better setup for me.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I know other sports always talk about how many rings,
what you do in the postseason. I feel like baseball
doesn't celebrate players like yourself that delivered and the biggest
moments in October. I know you have the highest war
of any player in Dodgery history, but your postseason performance,
to me is what really stands out.
Speaker 11 (23:22):
You know. Fortunately, you know I had some games, you know,
there was probably one game at least, you know, a
series that you know I kind of earmarked, which was,
you know, very fortunate.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
My second game back in.
Speaker 11 (23:37):
Nineteen seventy four against the Pirates in Pittsburgh, we had
a one zero lead over the Pirates and I had
a four hit game with two doubles in a home run,
and that kind of got me started on that. You know,
here's one game that you know, I was kind of
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you know, in control. There was a couple of World
Series games. There was other National League Playoff games, the
very first NLCS game against the Phillies in nineteen seventy seven,
game in which we lost. He hit the first NLCS
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Grand Slam home run off Steve Carleton the tide the game,
and we eventually ended up losing the game in the
ninth inning, but Dusty Baker came back the next day
and got us started. He hit the second Grand Slam
home run and we were able to then go on
and beat the Phillies three games to one.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
But yeah, there were.
Speaker 11 (24:43):
Some games, even in the eighty one World Series, you know,
Game three, bag of Dodger Stadium, when we were down
two games to none. You know, Fernando was pitching, and
he did not have a typical Fernando game.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
He was wild and made a lot of pitches.
Speaker 11 (24:59):
I think he gave up seven walks and nine hits
and five runs or four runs, and we and he
went the distance. And I had a big game, going
two for two with a three run home run that
got us off the deck with two walks, and it
was a perfect game at the play. And then I
made a defensive play that got us out of a
jam later in the game. So uh, yeah, I managed to,
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you know, have a game in a series that you know,
I was very thrilled to be able to do all that.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
But yeah, they're there, there are there. Those are great
moments for us.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I mean, that was the reason why you were one
of the members of the try m vps of that
World Series. And I know you wrote a book, ron Say,
Penguin Power. Does that make all those memories more vivid
because you put them down in print? Or when you
describe them right now? Are they as vivid as they
were when they happened?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Well, they're they're pretty vivid, you know.
Speaker 11 (25:54):
I I described, you know, my most important moments from
from World Series down, World Series, Nationally Championship Series, you know,
the playoffs, regular season. Now, there's a lot of terrific
regular season games that I had, but they don't match
up with the ultimate goal. And once you reach your
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ultimate goal and to win the World Series rather than
just participate in.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
It and had the MVP award that went along with it.
Speaker 11 (26:30):
And in that game six of nineteen eighty one, I
returned after getting beamed by Goose Gossage, which under today's protocol,
I would have been boxed for the rest of the series.
But hardhead or not, it was left up to me
back then. But I did play and I ended upating
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to it's in that game actually the one that propelled
us into the lead in the fifth inning, I believe it.
And then we broke the game open so yeah, so
I came out of that game because I got a
little dizzy and I didn't want that responsibility to beyond myself.
We had a comfortable lead at the time. Worst case scenario,
I could have come back and played the.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Next day as well. So yeah, unbelievable moments, the culmination of.
Speaker 11 (27:20):
A lot of time together, finally achieving what we.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Expected to do.
Speaker 11 (27:28):
We had the longest running and most successful infield of
Major League history. By fact, that was the last game
that that infield would play together, and that's why they
call it the infield.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And we had the first thirty.
Speaker 11 (27:41):
Home run for us and in major League history back
in nineteen seventy seven, and we broke all the attendance
records and that was before Fernando Mania, and so we
just had a tremendous group of guys that really understood
the challenges and responsibilities of playing for the Dodgers, and
we carved our own special history within our history and tradition,
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and so we're all very pleased with the way that
it went. And playing for the Dodgers at that point
in time, you know, was you know, we were on
top of baseball and it was a thrill and.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
At honor, always did it with class. Those were those
Dodgers and Ron say certainly a big part of the
Dodgers' success from the seventies and through the nineteen eighty
one World Championship and then would head to Chicago. But Ron,
you know, I wanted to ask you this because the
Dodgers just came off beating the Yankees in the World Series.
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For those group of players that played with you in
seventy seven and seventy eight, would you look back at
your career differently if you weren't able to have redemption
against those guys in pinstripes in eighty one.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (28:53):
I don't like to langer too much on things that
might have happened. You know, we had a series of
nineteen seventy eight that I think got out of control.
That was a series that I felt that we should
have wanted. If we would have had an instant replay,
I think that it would have justified.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
My opinion on that.
Speaker 11 (29:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was unfortunate, but it really did
swing the momentum towards the Yankees, and that that got
away from us. But the idea that we were able to,
you know, come back and regroup and get this done.
You know, before the infield was done playing its time
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together was you know, a very special moment. And you know,
I'm just extremely thrilled that we were able to have
as much success that we did during that period of time.
The nucleus of that team for the ten year period
was the infield. So it's really kind of hard to
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imagine looking back on it, that you could have four
guys play that long together. Yeah, and there's so many obstacles.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
In front of you.
Speaker 11 (30:12):
You know, people get hurt a lot and easily today
in the game. Try try try to keeping four guys
that aren't missing games for eight and a half years. Uh,
It's it's almost impossible. Now, it's got to be a
pigment of your imagination, you know, UK, you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
And yet we did.
Speaker 11 (30:31):
And there was only one other team I think they
even got halfway to that number.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (30:37):
And and so there is really no comparison to what
we did. And uh it was just an unbelievable time
for for us and and Dodger baseball back then.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
No doubt about it. The greatest infield in baseball history,
that is the voice of the greatest third basement in
Dodger history, and he will be celebrated before tomorrow night's
game at Dodger Stadium. Being part of the legends of baseball.
You were bigger than life. You guys were rock stars
in Los Angeles. You kind of go down Ventura Boulevard
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without everybody noticing you guys. I mean, I'm not sure
people realize that in Hollywood, the Dodgers of the seventies,
your teams, you guys were just as big as any
movie star out there.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Well, we had a lot of play, that's for sure.
Speaker 11 (31:23):
There were opportunities and you know, we met and had
you know, our Hollywood stars.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Game back then was.
Speaker 11 (31:33):
Top of the line, top shelf, and we had all
the stars out there and they were the big stars
and and it was so great to be able to
revail bows with them. And they were in the clubhouse
a lot as well.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
And so yeah, we.
Speaker 11 (31:52):
We we did have our share of Hollywood and you know,
the the restrictions, the security back then was pretty minimal,
so you know, we were they were all over the place,
and it was it was just a great time and
some mutual benefit for all of us.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Hey, Ron, did you ever get starstruck? In the clubhouse
while you're getting ready for a game or after a
game and you see whoever whichever actor walked in. Were
you ever taken by surprise that that person wanted to
be around you.
Speaker 11 (32:23):
I think it was that kind of a mutual understanding that,
you know, there was great respect for both of us.
You know, I remember meeting Dustin Hoffin for the first
time and I introduced myself and he says, I know
who you are, and so you don't need to do
that anymore.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
And so that was kind of the way it is.
Speaker 11 (32:47):
It was, you know, we had you know, Sinatra was
in the clubhouse with Don Rickles a lot, and you know,
I brought my guys in. They wanted to come in,
which is Fleetwood Mac you know, and their logos the
pain Woman and the Penguins. So we had a fond
relationship going on there. I went to many concerts I've
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I've spent I spent a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
With him back then.
Speaker 11 (33:10):
I was at the recording UH recordings for their albums
in the studio getting to see that happen. So yeah,
it was a very special time for us. Don't want
to be name dropping too much here, but it was
It was a lot of fun. And uh, I look
looking back on it, you know, I sometimes I run
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across a reminder that, oh yeah, I met him too,
or I met her too, and.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
It was just a very special time.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Well, tomorrow night will be special, Ron Say, part of
the legends of Dodger Baseball will be celebrated before first pitch,
and you also get a bubblehead of the Penguin tomorrow
night as well. Ron can't wait to see you at
the ballpark, and congratulations on this honor. It really does
bring it full circle on a great career.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Thank you so much, David. And see out there.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
There he is the man the Penguin, Ron Say. We'll
see him out there at Dodgers Stadium tomorrow. When we
continue on Dodger Talk, we'll check in with Blake Trining.
Had a fun conversation with him about where he's at
in his recovery. Don't go anywhere more Dodger Talk around
the corner right here on a five to seventy LA Sports.
Thanks again to Ron Say for joining us in our
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last segment looking forward to tomorrow night, where Ron Say
is going to be celebrated before the Dodgers and Brewers
kickoff the post All Star Breaks schedule at Dodgers Stadium.
Ron Say inducted into the Legends of Dodger Baseball. Looking
forward to that tomorrow at Dodgers Stadium before Dodgers Brewers.
(34:48):
Our pregame coverage begins with Tim Kats at six o'clock,
first pitch at seven ten between the Dodgers and Brewers,
And like we mentioned at the top of the show,
the Dodgers need to to remind the Brewers who they
are and not let them get away with sweeping them
in Milwaukee and getting away with a series win here
at Dodgers Stadium. So hopefully the All Star Break did
(35:11):
a lot of Dodgers good and they come back and
show the Brewers that they are still the defending World
Series champion. So looking forward to that, looking forward to
Ron Say being celebrated before the game and being part
of the Legends of Dodger Baseball. I mentioned the Dodgers
are getting a lot of their pitching back, and everybody
focuses on glass Now and Snell, and yes that's true,
(35:33):
but also a big part of the Dodger bullpen has
been missing for quite some time, and that is one
of the key heroes of last year's World Series run,
Blake Trinan, who's a two time World Series champion with
the Dodgers twenty twenty and of course last year, there
is no Walker Bueller heroics if Blake Trinan doesn't do
(35:54):
what he did last year, and the Dodgers certainly have
missed him. But Blake Trinan is on his way. He's
in the process of rehab starts in Oklahoma City, and
I had a chance to catch up with another fun
conversation with Blake Trying before he head out for Oklahoma City.
All right, I can't ignore my other Blake. Blake Trying in,
(36:14):
a two time World Series champion, is on his way back.
And we're in the Dodger clubhouse with the Blake Trynan
who's wearing his World Series gold hat right now backwards.
He's got his beard perfectly quaffed, he's got his hair
perfect even when he takes that hat off, and he's
allowed me to be in his locker room space. So
I appreciate the time.
Speaker 12 (36:33):
Blake, Yeah, no problem, you're just talking really loud right now,
Dave so great be on your show.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Thanks for having me, Am I loud talking in the clubhouse.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
You are loud talking.
Speaker 12 (36:41):
It's make me a little uncomfortable. I'm waiting for a
Lou to do a dynamite d dynamite drop in over here.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
So hey, did you know did you know, sweet Lou
Trevino not Italian?
Speaker 12 (36:51):
Nah, He's a Ecuadorian Ecuadorian, Puerto Rican and Pennsylvania Dutch.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
There that is a good friend. Nothing gets by this,
Blake tryning.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
How many Ecuadorians are in the big leagues.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I don't think many.
Speaker 12 (37:07):
Yeah, we might be the best of all time. We
should look it up. Okay, we'll look it up.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Blake. You've thrown two live batting practices. I feel like
that's more of a simulated game. How did how did
you feel after those two?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Uh? Good and bad? In both good.
Speaker 11 (37:24):
Good.
Speaker 12 (37:24):
In the first one with how I executed against lefties,
I thought I was able to, you know, execute a
couple of sequences that I've used in the past, things
that I've had to adjust to in the past, you know,
like mixing up first pitches differently and then executing late
with different pitches. And the righty I faced was okay.
You know, I had some pitches that were good that
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first one that were good that I executed, But I
hate walking guys, especially in a sim when these guys
are coming up from Rancho or wherever and they're anticipating
getting strikes, and you know, you walk a guy.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
It's kind of frustrating.
Speaker 12 (38:00):
Yesterday was better Versariety for sure, and a lot worse
VERSU Lefty, So I gotta give up a fly ball
out to left, a five pitch walk on competitive, and
then a two pitch singled over the second basement. So
that's that Part's frustrating, but overall good coming out of it. Well,
(38:24):
checking boxes each day, so yeah, we're in a good place.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
It seems like relievers have a different type of schedule
than starters. Obviously, do you have to complete and start
from spring trending all over again where you're in six, seven,
eight rehab games before you come back.
Speaker 12 (38:40):
I haven't had a chance to look at the schedule completely,
but I think when we get to that point, it's
it's gonna be closer to that idea than somebody who's
been throwing it is on like a fifteen day and
comes back.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
As you saw with Kirby.
Speaker 12 (38:54):
You know, Kirby had a had a quick stint and
through it maybe one Sam game and was back with
the guys. Because he never really stopped throwing. It was
something totally different. But I think when you're dealing with
our issues that keep you out for a while to
where you can't throw and you have to take an
extended period of time off. I was just four to
five weeks of no throw, you know, so that's an
off season rest. So you got to build all the
(39:14):
way back up, reramp back up to some capacity, and
make sure that when you come back, you're not handcuffing
the manager on when to use you and then screwing
the rest of the guys in the bullpen with maybe
some unwanted three out of fours or you know, two
out of three's or three straight. You know, you don't
really want to come back and be the guy that's
causing other people to not get a break when they've
been grinding all year. So just making sure the'm in
(39:35):
a good place bounce back wise, health wise, stuff wise,
and that there's no reservations when I get back. That's
the biggest goal.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Blake Trinon is our guest Blake. I don't know if
you view yourself this way, but when we see you
on the mound, even in simulated games. You have this
presence in this era of a two time World Series champion,
a guy that meant a lot to the Dodgers last October.
Do you feel that way? I mean, does it feel
different to be that guy?
Speaker 12 (40:04):
I don't really view it that way. To hear other
people speak highly of you and like maybe the character
in the way you carry yourself like that's probably the
ultimate compliment. So thanks for that. If that's how people feel,
then even better. Ultimately, I go back to it. People
know my heart, it's to serve and honor God with
(40:25):
the talents he's given me. So when I'm out there,
I'm not playing for mediocrity. You know, I've got a
God to bless. I've got a family to bless and
an organization to bless who's blessed me and my family
more than I could imagine.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
So how do I do that?
Speaker 12 (40:40):
It's my skill set and my talent that I've been
anointed with and blessed with.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
So I'm trying.
Speaker 12 (40:44):
To live in the ability I've been given and execute
the best I can to be the best picture in
baseball in the role the Dodgers trust me in. So yes,
I want to be dominant. Yes, I want to have success,
and it's for multitude of reasons. So if you guys
see this competitive edge or demeanor that you like to
(41:05):
talk about, then that's a good thing because that means
that my mind is in a great place in my
attitude and competitiveness reflects that.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
So yeah, I thank you for the praise. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
I feel like batters are feeling that too. That's the
most important thing, you know, when you it's one now.
I mean all those guys yesterday they were intimidating.
Speaker 12 (41:20):
They'll stop it day if the hitters have had like
a three month hiatus of having to face me, so
they've gotten some other nasty guys in our pen.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
You know.
Speaker 12 (41:29):
It's the hardest thing about being on the IL is
probably sitting and not competing, you know.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
And you play this game because you love the sport.
Speaker 12 (41:39):
You crave the competition and everything comes with it, the good,
the bad, the emotions.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
That are good and bad.
Speaker 12 (41:46):
If everything was great and you wouldn't appreciate the good times,
you know, because you wouldn't have anything to.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Compare it to.
Speaker 12 (41:51):
So certainly done a lot of reflecting through this process
and it's probably been the hardest one for me. Yeah,
I think so, because you work so hard to get
back from the shoulder, which you knew it was gonna
be a process, and this one you know it's gonna
take time, but it's so it's just so different. The
(42:11):
other one was finite. You knew you needed to have
procedures and there's a process that you've been prepared for
before you go into it. And this one, it's like, man,
you think you you think you get over that hurdle,
and something else, you know, creeps in for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
And now I'm dealing with the elbow.
Speaker 12 (42:27):
But you know, by the grace of God, it's it's
been going good and I've I'm feeling stronger and healthier,
and yeah, it's just been really trying, you know, Like
especially when you see guys you've been used a lot.
You know they can handle it, they're they're they're pros.
But not being there to help out is really hard.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
What's it been like to see those bullpen dogs this
version of it, to see the guys to step up
like best the end, the two young kids, Jack Dryer
and Benksparious.
Speaker 12 (42:56):
Yeah, I mean Alex has been doing it for years now,
it's like it's fifth year doing it for us. It's
great to have somebody like Tanner who's such a strong, healthy,
you know, workhorse Guy's very diligent. That's why he stays
strong and durable. He's very diligent with what he goes through.
He's very well put together, like athletically and in his strength.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
You have a guy like Kirby who knows how to
take the ball every day.
Speaker 12 (43:21):
Also, all these guys that we've added, it's definitely a
new blend. I mean, there's not a lot of turnover
from last year that's still here, but we have a
lot of new guys who fit the mold of being
selfless and that are ultra competitors.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
And it's refreshing to see guys.
Speaker 12 (43:40):
Like Jack and Ben who come up who either take
the mindset of learning to pitch with their stuff, which
Jack does an amazing job of and Ben is really
close to that, and I think he's morphed into a
guy that's learning to pitch with his great stuff. And
last year it was throw strikes with your great stuff
and watch how guys won't figure you out of the leagues.
Learned a little bit about him and he's adjusting with
(44:02):
the league. So it's what they've both been able to
do is a huge part of why we're where we're
at because we've had a lot of ups and downs
with injuries or you know, lulls and performance when guys,
you know, we go through it sometimes and we get
frustrated because we believe we should be perfect every time.
But that's why we're good at what we do, because
we demand greatness from ourselves and from each other. So yeah,
(44:26):
it's been it's been a great dynamic. I haven't really
you know, been full into it because I'm not on
the road with everybody, but when they're here, you know,
just kind of sitting around and kind of seeing how
things are going. We've got a lot of guys who
like to stay fairly quiet and locked in, whereas in
maybe years past, there's a little bit more looseness throughout it.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
And part of the problem is I'm a totally different guy.
Speaker 12 (44:48):
When I'm on the il than when I'm playing, you know, Like,
so I'm chatty Kathy towing a line of I know
when I need to leave and come down to the
dugout and when they start getting ready to hot and
warm up and come in the game. I'm out of
there because I know that I would cross the line
just being too chatty.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
That's part of being a pro, right. You got to
pay attention to like your weaknesses.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
You gotta be like me. You gotta have some feel Blake.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Uh, I'm gonna defer on that comment, Dave.
Speaker 12 (45:16):
Dave, you don't have feel You're You're not a radio
guy to have feel like you're you're on radio because
you got a bubbling personality and people like that.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
You toe the line of it appropriate. You know, it's
like the fact.
Speaker 12 (45:27):
That you're so comfortable laid back in client saucer's chair,
you know, like I need you, I need you to
reel it back in.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
You're loud talking to me in the clubhouse.
Speaker 12 (45:37):
Nobody else can ask questions, so like it's irrelevant for
them to be in here right now. It's just there's
not a lot of feel. Well, that's it was literally
changing over your shoulder and you're sitting here like.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
I was locked in on you. Ish Ish, that's the
greatest phrase and description ever towing the line of inappropriateness.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, yeah, well hey, you know what you know, ask
sure go there you go.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
My humid.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
The source right here, Blake trying.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
To like, can we get some new shoes? Sure those
are tough.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
All clean them up, I know, like.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
The biggest thing. Just hit it with a wet rag
at least once a week.
Speaker 12 (46:11):
That's you're on You're you're on the field where there's
a massive amount of dirt and and you looks like
you've let your dog chew on them.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Well, it just shows you like the grind of a
baseball radio reporter or the lack of care maybe both.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Not a lot of attention to detail.
Speaker 12 (46:26):
I mean, when you're not put behind a camera, you
don't really have to pay attention to what you look like.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
It's more what you sound like.
Speaker 12 (46:33):
First game, after the when you show up, when you
show up for you know, philing to do TV worked out?
Speaker 3 (46:38):
How nice you put yourself together?
Speaker 1 (46:40):
What do you talk What are you talking about? Night's
button down right now? Today? Maybe the shoes, I mean
you're just trying to find.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
There's just everything else is fine as the shoes are tough.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Okay, I like your uh, your flip flops.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
I just got done throwing Dave.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
We'll leave it right there.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
This is the last last interview you get get with
that's it. What do you mean, I'm done?
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Oh, come on, done, done Dave, for today, just today,
don't worry about all. Yeah, you can't quit me.
Speaker 12 (47:07):
I can quit you for sure. I respect the position
too much. The other hard thing about playing is there
are certain things that come with a job. It's not
that we want to do is we have to do it,
you know.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
So you're right. I can't quit you until I quit baseball.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
So I can't wait. That'll be five years from now, folks,
five years from that.
Speaker 12 (47:25):
He doesn't even care about the players. He just cares
about getting a hot take. How about this hot take?
We're done?
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Okay, sounds good. Thanks a lot for the time, Blake.
It's great to see you smile. I know it's been
a long process, but I'm here to support you. I'm
the wind beneath your wings.
Speaker 12 (47:40):
All right, So without the corniness, has been great having
a conversation with you.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
You're the man, Dave.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Appreciate you, Blake trying. He's always keeping me honest. He's
always keeping receipts on me, even looking at my shoes
when they're dirty in the clubhouse. I mean, come on,
we're at a baseball Stadium anyway, love catching up with Blake,
can't wait to see him back with the Dodgers, and
hopeful there's a scenario where you could have Blake Trining
and Bruce Star Graderol back in the Dodger bullpen by
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the time the postseason comes around. So looking forward to that.
Thanks to Ronnie Fossio for all his help, Thanks to
Colin Yee for his great montage earlier in the show,
Thanks to ron Safe for joining us, and of course
Blake Trenon for keeping me honest. We will talk to
you tomorrow night from Dodgers Stadium Dodgers Brewers at seven ten.
(48:27):
Fox Sports Radio is next. Have a great rest of
your night, Sea,
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