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October 22, 2024 39 mins
Steve Sax and Tim Cates are LIVE and LOCAL all week leading up to Game 1 of the World Series. Hear from Yankees manager Aaron Boone. Former Dodgers lefthander Jerry Reuss. 
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The right quot.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Dodgers Playoff Baseball is back, and with it an annual
postseason tradition.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Scam is back.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Baby.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
This is Sax and Cakes in the a app BA
go with Proway. Dodger legend Steve Sacks is joined by
your favorite Dodger pregame host, Tim Kates. If you want
to talk Dodgers, get in on the show on eighty
six six nine eighty seven two five seven now. While
the Dan Patrick Show streams on the Ihearts radio app.

(00:35):
We've been banished to the Internet until this Dodgers playoff
run concludes. Here they are broadcasting live on AM five
to seven LA Sports. It's Tim Kates and Steve sachs.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Our three of SAX and the Kates and the Am
here on AMPI seventy LA Sports on this Tuesday morning,
October twenty second. Thanks for being with us, make your
way to work. If you're already at your job and
joining a little scam on a Tuesday morning to get
you through the day taking the kids to school. We
appreciate you taking us with you on your ride. Hey Tim,

(01:11):
this Tuesday morning.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, Steven, Well we'll let you know that, Okay, scam's
out there. I mean, I'm getting like text messages, I
get phone calls from people, say hey, and they're not
even around here, They're not even California. I was less
you guys on ihearted. Yeah, I love your show. I
love Scam Scam scam.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's getting popular. It's very popular. I love running to
people that love listening to it. It's Dodger fans's way
to just to kind of keep talking Dodgers baseball through
October when there's so much else happening the football seasons underway.
College football is certainly going on, but Dodger fans want
to talk Dodgers baseball. Dodger fans want to hear what's

(01:50):
going on. They want to relive some of the great moments,
as we're doing with the game one flashback this morning
from the nineteen eighty one World Series, the last time
these two teams meet. We'll do games two and three tomorrow.
Jerry Royce will join us, coming up in about twenty minutes.
So yeah, it's I'm just thinking.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
You know, no game, okay, would the show be vibrant,
would it be fun? Would there be interesting things that
we need? Two more hours? Yeah, I mean I mean,
it's there's lots of stuff to talk about.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
There is a whole bunch to get into, and the
Yankees are working out today. We'll get more out of that.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
We're gonna hear from Max Mounsey, Freddie Freeman hopefully an
update on his ankle, and Dave Roberts later on today.
They are expected to talk to the media, so we'll
have that for you tomorrow. Game one is Friday night,
first pitch at five oh eight. If you're asking Steven
Sacks for tickets, don't bother. Nope, don't bother. Don't even
just delete the text, don't even fire off the email.
Just act like you aren't even gonna do it, and

(02:41):
you'll be better off. Maybe, just maybe, if you're gonna
text Saxy, just say hey, Hope, you're well. Good to
hear your voice on the air in Los Angeles again
here in October, and we'll just just leave it at that.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, And please, I mean, don't go way out there
and say, uh, you know any show Hay Jersey, I really,
you know what, I haven't even met show Heo Tani before. Really, No,
haven't met him.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
We got anything? You know what, Stephen? You need to
come down to La for this World series.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, I know, let's yeah, I would, I would do that.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I mean, we got to get you thrown out the
first pitch at a game. I mean, I gotta talked
to Steve Brenner.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, or or Carry Osborne, one of the two.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Let's get this done. Let's get you out there. Let's
get you.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
And I together, you know. I mean I need to
I need to spruce up my my uh my, what
do you call it? My social media a little bit.
My daughter does it for me.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
But nonetheless, yeah, I mean he's only played in Anaheim
for six years, so you did have six years in Anaheim.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I'm telling you what's gonna happen is he's he's gonna
bust out, like if he wins the MVP Award, and
he's gonna have his interpreter up there, and he's just
gonna stand in front of the interpreter and just talk
just like we are, I mean, with perfect clarity, with
no accent, and it's like he's been hiding it the
whole time. He's gonna bust out with a long, long

(03:59):
Dia tribe, you know, making the transition from Anaheim up
to Los Angeles and different leagues, and now it's culminated
in all the contract and now he's won the MVP
of the Series or whatever something like that. But how
about if he did that in his his language was
just perfect. I think he was dropping word smithy words,
you know, like whatever, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
That would be pretty awesome if he did that.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
It wouldn't that be cool?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
It would be just jaw dropping for everybody in the room.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
You're like, what, Well, Actually, a lot of MLB network
I would like to say that the pitching staff he
or this league is completely antithetical to what we have
over in the American League. And the reason why is
because they challenge you more.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
They started doing that, people would flip out. Be great,
it would be awesome. I'm looking at the back cover
of the New York Post today, the sports section, and
they're talking about the Knick starting their season. They got
a post NBA preview, but also their headline is on
one side of Totani and Bets. On the other side
it's Judge and so, and the headline says Star Wars

(05:04):
Yankees Dodgers World Series filled with big contracts and bigger names.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Wow, that's true.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
When I saw Star Wars. I thought it was good
versus evil, like you know the well.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
There's a there's a there's a little you know inclination. Okay,
think yeah, I think I think so yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
But it's it's it's right there in front of you
and it hits you right in the face. Yeah, these
are huge stars. Alana Rizzo said it perfectly. Outside of
Mike Trout, you got every star in baseball that people
know playing in this series on the biggest stage.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
You know. The crazy thing is if you if you
asked Hollywood to write a script and you know, a
big baseball story and it comes to the end of
the season, and then you put the players and all this,
they wouldn't even buy it. They'd say, hey, it's it's phony.
It's not real, right, you know, that's that's not gonna fly.
Nobody'd buy that. Here we are.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Here, we are the two biggest franchises in baseball, two
biggest payrolls, near the top of baseball, with the biggest
stars on full display globally. Beginning on Friday night, we
mentioned the Yankees going through a workout. Let's check in
with the Yankees manager Aaron Boone. Southern California product, went
the USC. Now he's managing the bad guys over there
at the evil Empire known as the New York Yankees.

(06:17):
Here's his thoughts going into Game one.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
The closeness that these guys have with one another, and
that trite playing for one another is palpable with this group,
has been all year, has been since day one. These
guys love each other, and these guys love doing it
for one another. And I always feel like the best

(06:40):
team situation you can get into is when you can
genuinely say, at the end of the year or at
any point in the year, that I want it for
the guy next to me more than myself. And that
exists with this team, I think, and that's powerful. We
haven't finalized that I can tell you Garrett'll pitch Game one,
but you know, we're just starting to kind of formul
later our plans and things like that, so we'll see.

(07:03):
I think there's a good chance of it. He's scheduled
to throw another live tomorrow, so if everything goes well there,
I would say there's a decent chance that he could
be on the roster. Yes, you know, we've seen that
so many times. You know, this one happened to be
to send us to the World Series. But I feel
like there's been so many at bats like that this year,
like big spot, game on the line, got a pitch

(07:25):
to him, and it's like, man, he just puts. He
throws one of those Jan Soto epic at bats on you,
and not surprising in that moment that he did it again.
He's just obviously an amazing hitter. I've loved every second
of him being here, and hopefully here he's here a
long time. I think it's a great matchup, and I

(07:47):
think the series we had this summer with them felt
like just competitive, heavy, tough games. The seven seven years
now that I've been here, there's always been that occasional
talk about Yankees Dodgers, So I think it's great. I'm
looking forward to all of it. The stars will be out,
the eyeballs will be watching, and hopefully we can deliver

(08:11):
on a great series.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
All Right, there's Aaron Boone, Yankees manager, on the team chemistry.
He has announced Garrett Cole as his starter, will Nester
Cortes pitch in this World Series. He has been injured,
and of course on Juan Soto, his superstar right fielder
a lot of brought up a great point earlier. Wan
Soa could walk at the end of this year. He's
a free agent. I mean, if he does what he

(08:32):
does in the World Series, he's gonna make himself very
valuable to a franchise out there. And we mentioned it yesterday.
There's not a lot of teams that can afford to
Wan Sodo.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Absolutely right, and you know he's not going to be
more valuable to any team more than the Yankees. The
way the fit is there. I mean you can compare
him with the you know, the Dodgers are really the
standard bearer when you talk about the top of the
class when you talk about you know, Bets and Otani
against Judge and Soto with remarkable supporting casts on both

(09:07):
sides of the Ledger. But it's not complete unless Soto
is there to accompany Judge. And I think that's the
way it's going to be framed, probably by his agents.
And you know, the guy's doing it in New York
on the biggest stage. The ballpark's perfect, the support that
he gets in the lineup is perfect, and the fans

(09:27):
would just be drooling to get him there. I don't
think he's going to be the same player or is
valuable to any other team except the Yankees.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, it makes absolute sense. It's the perfect landing spot
for him long term and after the season he's had
in the postseason so far. Hopefully it gets minimized here
in the World Series his production, but certainly would fit
in nicely there in the gym.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, if they let him walk, if they if the
Yankee organization lets him walk, they might burn Cashman's house down.
I mean, I'm telling you right, yes, I mean the
fans there will will rebel big time. Yeah, they can,
they can, They can afford him and big time, and uh,

(10:10):
you know, this is a this is a perfect place
to spend it.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Let's go to Vince and Breas next up here with
Saxon Kates in the AM on this Tuesday morning. Vance,
Welcome to the show. How are you.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
I'm doing good, Timothy doing good.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
Stephen. I'm glad we're on a first name basis. So
there's a couple of things I want to ask, you know,
I want your guys personal opinion. I'm first gonna share
a quick little story about Tommy and Lesorda, you know,
growing up in the Fullerton area. Braya Lahaber area. You know,
he he.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Visited my son's baseball team when he was on T
ball and he played cats with my son. And you know,
I'm sitting down there watching Tommy. I was the only
parent doing so because I'm a die hard Dodger and
it was unbelievable. So I'm you know, I don't have
a lot of money, but you bet your booty and
I'm going to try my best to take my son
to one of these first two games. But what's your

(11:00):
guys' opinion? Hypothetically if it's a game seven and you know,
like say it's a zero zero ballgames, do you think,
by any chance, if Otani goes up to Roberts and
be like, you know what I want to pitch? Do
you think we'll possibly see that? Like you know, you know, no,
I cause I don't think so. But I'm hearing it
around and it's not worth it in my opinion. But

(11:24):
what do you think that conversation would be? Like if
Otani and Roberts had that discussion.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Just like we just had, it'd be that short. I mean,
there is we could talk about other things, but to
be labor that point, the answer is going to be Nope.
That's it not exact question.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Appreciate the phone call. I'm going to completely disagree with you,
Steven Sacks. Really, I think that the door is not
completely shut on Show. Hey Otani pitching in a world
serious game, and it's not because they've alluded to it.
It's not because they've left that door open. Dave Roberts
has come out, Mark Pryor's been talked about it, Show
Hay has been asked about it, and the consensus has been, yeah,

(12:04):
he's not going to pitch in October for the Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
But but are you talking about another October or you're
talking about this one this October? No chance.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
He's throwing bullpen sessions. I know he's throwing long toss,
he's throwing hard. He's mixing up his pitches in the bulb.
It's not like baby steps first step coming back from
arm injury. He is down the road in his rehabit.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Someone says he's in the moment to they say show heye,
you're in there. Okay, he goes in, he blows his
arm out. Okay, now what, Oh my gosh. They would
rip the city down and Dave Roberts would be gone. Yeah, seriously, No,
you can't take that chance. Man, Let him they got enough.

(12:51):
I think they got enough. Let get through this, win
the World Series, let him rehab the whole winter, let
him come back way strong next year. Now you've got
a team that's just ripping to go. Oh yeah, but
you know you're gonna get all those other guys back too.
But you can't, like take that chance. Is it worth it?
I mean, what would what would make you get him
out there? What would it be? Mabe? There's two outs

(13:12):
in the ninth and you get one hitter, Yeah, and
you gotta get Soto out or you gotta get you know,
you know, I mean, is that what you do? I don't. Yeah,
if he blows it out.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
To me, it's if there's an opportunity to get him
out there, if it's in a clenching situation, if it's
in a situation where they could use him. I mean,
if Showy Otani goes to Dave Roberts in the dugout
and Mark Pryor tells the front office I want to pitch,
Are they gonna say no? I mean, he gets what
he wants. Yeah, it's up to him.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Let's say he goes up there and he stinks up,
the joint, doesn't blow his arm out, but he doesn't
get anybody out. Oh now what.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
We'll show He wanted to pitch guys, He follows pitch,
where's your MANAGERI and balls?

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Dave?

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Come on, you know you might hear that too, So
I don't know. I just think it's way too risky,
way too risky. I get the I mean it's like
you got to throw in Rojas to, you know, to
get somebody out because there's absolutely nobody left. They're not
gonna make They're not gonna plan things out, so they
got nobody. I mean, they're gonna have somebody left down there.

(14:13):
It's not gonna like, like I said, Miguel Rojas isn't
gonna go there and clean it up. They got to
have somebody down there and it won't be show. Hey,
I don't believe I'm what's tempting though, because it is
just okay, what about this, let's really daydream now. Just
think if it's you know, you're down to the last
bit here and you don't even have a left hander
down there that's even worthy, and you're thinking, okay, Judge

(14:36):
is coming up, and and there's two guys on and
judges coming up, and do you bring them in and
it's the last out in the ninth inningto Game seven, Yes,
do you bring him in? Yes? WHOA, I don't know, man,
Can you imagine that what if something look at something
like that happened, people would probably cash in their their
their season tickets because they say it was it was

(14:58):
rigged and it was phony, because nobody would buy that sucker.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I mean, obviously they're not gonna pitch him, and he's
not gonna want to pitch. If there's a chance he
can reaggravate it. It's not ready. Of course, that will
never happen. But if he feels like he's healthy enough,
and it's just a matter of we're waiting till next
season to give it the full start from spring training,
there's a little bit of hope there. There's a little

(15:22):
bit of maybe if they can get him out there,
he can pitch.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Okay, this is a doctor decision. Now, they'll put it
in the doctor's hands because because there's too much on
the line, there's too much adrenaline going. We're in the moment,
the pressure, Yes, he had the pressure, and they'll put
it in the doctor's hands. And I guarantee you there
is no doctor on this planet that's gonna say, Yeah,
he hasn't pitched all year, but we'll throw me here
in this situation where he's gonna try twenty times as

(15:48):
hard it seems, and he's gonna try to throw two
hundred miles an hour, and then they're gonna think, Man,
if he blows this thing out, I just lost my
license to be a doctor and all that. I just
don't take his I don't think it's gonna happen. It's
too risky, bro risky.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I get it. I get I think this is something
we get into more at the listeners tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
We can ask him put out we should put out
a poll right now and have it ready for tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, we'll do that and we'll get to the phone
calls tomorrow about this. I think it's an intriguing topic.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
It's a great it's a great conversation piece. So yeah,
it really is.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
If Otani's available, you know you're he's not taking up
a roster spot as far as a pitcher. He's already
positioned player. So that's me.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I've heard the same thing, Tim, I've heard people saying.
I've heard o'tani he's gonna possibly make an appearance. Yeah,
I'm like, no, he's not.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
I mean, Harold Reynolds from MLB Network basically said it
during September. He expects him to pitch really based on
what he thinks. Yeah, okay, Yeah, he's bullpen session, mixing
up his pitches. It's not like he just ripped off
a cast and it's like, all right, I'm ready to go.
I just got this bad boy off. Let's try it.
How he's been throwing like that, It's been a few months. Okay,

(16:52):
he's throwing off flat ground, he's throwing off of mound.
He's he's at that point where I'm I don't know.
We'll get into it.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
We'll get it.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
We'll put a poll question up. We'll get to the
phone calls tomorrow. Jerry Royce is going to join his
next game one, starter of the nineteen eighty one World Series. Yes,
the last time the Dodgers and Yankee squared off. It's
Saxon Kates in the am right here in hanfi seventy
LA Sports. It's Saxon Kate's in the am here on

(17:21):
a five to seventy LA Sports. You're a home of
Shohyotani and the Los Angeles Dodgers, who are going back
to the World Series. Game one against the New York
Yankees coming up on Friday night while I Wrongo Casino
Dodgers on Decade. It all started at four pm. First
pitch coming up at five to oh eight is the
twelfth head to head meeting between the Yankees and the Dodgers,

(17:43):
a last met back in nineteen eighty one, the Dodgers
winning that series and joining this now saxy one of
your teammates back then, he was the Game one starter,
as we heard in our Game one flashback back in
our first hour of the show. Twenty one years in
the major leagues. He played for the Dodgers. He played
for eight different teams, A two time All Star, he

(18:04):
pitched a no hitter back in nineteen eighty a World
Series chap with these Dodgers in nineteen eighty one. He
is Jerry Royce and he joins us now here on
FI seventy LA Sports. Jerry, good morning, how you doing.

Speaker 7 (18:16):
Everything's good early in the morning, but I'm up and
Adam had my two cups of coffee and ready to
talk to you.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
And Steven, good morning, Jerry, love it, love it when
you hear Yankees Dodgers, And this is the first meeting
since well nineteen eighty one. What are some of the
thoughts that go through you?

Speaker 7 (18:32):
Well? For me, growing up in the Midwest and becoming
interested in baseball at about six or seven years old,
I remember watching the fifty five and fifty six World
Series on TV. Remember back then they had afternoon games,
and I'd walked from school when it was out and
go down to the local television store they actually had

(18:53):
one in our small town, stand outside and watched the
ballgame on what was then a big screen TV. And
for men, that just started my love for the game
of baseball.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Jerry, I good to be with you. First of all,
it's been a little while. Looking forward to seeing you again,
hopefully at the camp coming up in January. I hope
you're going to be there. But listen, I wanted to
ask you a little bit about the differences between when
you pitched and the complications the way they have now.
I mean, playing behind you and I know the No

(19:26):
hitter that you pitched against the Giants. I remember some
of your games you throw six, maybe seven curveballs in
the whole game, and your thing was let that fastball
work within the zone, and it worked like a snake
on a griddle. That thing moves so much you were
able to go by with lots of times not throwing
many offweed pitches.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
How did you do that?

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Number one? And what's the difference today with how complicated
they make the pitching.

Speaker 7 (19:51):
Steve, That's an excellent question, and it's a little more
complicated than the way you put it, but I'll simplify it.
The best way possible can one is to have command
of your fastball. That's what I taught as a coach.
That's what I was taught during the whole course of
my major league career by as many as fifteen or
twenty pitching coaches. I was able to control it in

(20:13):
the strike zone, and right around nineteen eighty I was
able to develop the cut fastball that if I kept
it right around the hitter's knees, it came in, as
hitters would tell me, heavy and it has a late movement. Now,
hitters always try to hit the ball and barrel it
up and drive it somewhere, but they couldn't make the
adjustment because of the late movement and due to the

(20:35):
fact I had command of it in the strike zone.
I could then go from the third base side of
home plate to the first base side, change speeds on it,
and in effect, one fastball was the equivalent to three
or four different pitches. So it was the curveball that
I used once in a while to get over the plate,
to set up a hitter, to show them something just

(20:56):
a little bit different, and to change his angle of
his eyes as I was hoping to get him out
with the basketball.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Jerry, you got to start in Game one, Yankees won
that game. You give up an early three run home
run to Bob Watson. You come back in Game five
and get the win. Over on on Gidry that Game
one start, we played some of the highlights from that game.
You guys were coming off the emotional win in Montreal.
A couple days later, he was turning around in the
Bronx playing Game one of that World Series. You had

(21:26):
Joe Demajo throwing out the first pitch at Yankee Stadium.
Do you remember the emotions of that Game one and
what you were feeling like that on the mound for
the Game one of the World Series.

Speaker 7 (21:36):
Yeah? Absolutely. And one of the things that this upcoming
series reminds me of In fact, it's kind of dusted
off some memories that were buried back in my mind. See,
I don't think that much about what I did during
my baseball career, and I think a lot of ballplayers
will tell you the same thing, because it's a lot
easier to look out your windshield than it is the

(21:59):
rear view mirror when you're driving a car. It's the
same thing. And remembering baseball, but going in the Yankee
Stadium for the first time, we're walking on that turf
and this was the same place where Ruth Gerrig and
a number of future Hall of famers were going to play,
and it got to me a little bit and it
did affect me. But I don't make excuses about it,

(22:20):
because they did get some pitches up. The Yankees were
a formidable foe, and they took full advantage of everything
with that hometown crowd and were able to get me
out of the ballgame early in that game.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
So, yeah, Jerry, I wanted to ask you a little
bit more about pitching because it fascinates me. This was
always the nemesis in our lives of trying to beat
down these pitchers. First of all, the fact that everybody
throws a hundred today, and you know, I'm just maybe
using a little hyperbole there, But for the most part,
the guys seemed to throw around that level or the
big you know, the big hosses on the team. I

(22:56):
think they threw pretty much the same speed when we played,
maybe over a little bit more now. But the differences
between how they measure the ball coming out of the
hand you know now and coming over the plate when
you pitched, So what are the differences between the two
measuring sticks?

Speaker 2 (23:13):
You know?

Speaker 7 (23:13):
That's that's good. I'm surprised that you came up with that,
because not many people are aware of that. No, it's
an excellent question and a great point. A lot of
times velocity was measured as the ball came across the
plate and coming out of the pitcher's hand, it's totally
different because it's a few miles an hour faster.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Now.

Speaker 7 (23:32):
I think guys more today muscle up and try to
get the velocity and sacrifice a little bit of command
on the other side. But I trained differently back in
those days. And remember this is a long time in
baseball history, and the starting pitcher you were trained and
you had it in your mind that you're out there

(23:52):
for nine innings, and anything less than that it wasn't
as spectacular as what you plan to do and what
you try to do. So you may sacrifice a little
in velocity, some speed in order to locate your pitches
just a little bit better, and went through the batting
orders three and four times, so you had to plan

(24:13):
just a little bit different. If you get somebody out
early in the ballgame, for instance, a power hitter, and
you him early in the game, second or third, anying
nobody on base, you're not going to throw him the
outpitch that you need to use later in the game
with perhaps somebody on base and the game on the line.
So it's a planning experience as well as executing experience

(24:38):
later in the ballgame. And that's the mindset that I
tried to go out there with. It didn't always succeed,
but when it did, it made perfect sense to me.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Jerry Royce is our guest here on ANFI seventy LA Sports,
former Dodger World Series Champion nineteen eighty one, Game one starter,
Game five starter against the New York Yankees. Both managers
have talked about team chemistry this year, Dave Roberts has
alluded to his group and buying in Aaron Boon. Yet
it made a comment yesterday about this group. This chemistry

(25:09):
on the Yankees is like nothing he's seen since he's
been the manager in taking over in twenty eighteen, that
nineteen eighty one team, the chemistry he had a group
of young players like a Steven Sacks who comes up
and is helping out this Dodgers team, and a group
of veterans who hadn't been able to beat the Yankees
in prior World Series and finally do what was that

(25:29):
chemistry like coming in a year before joining this team
and ultimately getting over that hurdle of beating the Yankees.

Speaker 7 (25:36):
Well, you can divide that eighty one team into some subgroups.
You're right on what you say, some veterans and some
young players. But remember the core of the team, the infield,
plus Steve Dieger and maybe one or two others as
they said here, all came up through the organization. Many
played in the seventy four, seventy seven, and seventy eight
World Series and were unsuccessful. Then there was a group

(25:58):
that was traded for that included Rick Monday, Reggie Smith
in order to help the Dodgers get over the hump.
They got over the hump, but they lost to the
Yankees in seventy seven and seventy eight. And then some
young players coming up through the organization as young players should,
and that include Stephen and Tom Neidenfure and Mike Sooship.

(26:23):
It could, but it was also the addition and this
is the fourth group of guys that were traded for
from other organizations to help form that twenty five man roster,
and that included me. So it took some wily trades.
It took some young players coming through the organization plus
some veteran guys and all come together in a situation.

(26:47):
It was a strike season, and there was an additional
round of playoffs that we had to win. And we
were down two games to none in a five game
series against Houston, came back to beat him, were one
game from elimination against Montreal in Montreal, and we're able
to win thanks to Rick Monday's home run off Steve Rodgers.

(27:09):
And then we fell to the Yankees the first two
games in the World Series, only to come back and
win three one run games at Dodger Stadium. Went back
to New York. It was a totally different kind of
situation for a World Series that saw better than fifty
thousand people at Old Yankee Stadium. This time the crowd
numbers were down, as it seemed as if the people

(27:32):
of New York, the fans, the Yankees, were expecting to feed,
and we were more than happy to oblige them, winning
that sixth game and bringing a World championship home to
Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah. Well, Jerry, I got to ask you this question.
Well maybe I should say it like my New York
friends in New York do.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
I got to ask you.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Okay, look, Jerry, I got to find out the difference,
and you can tell us, because you're a great specimen
if you will to tell us this. Today people pitch
one hundred innings, by that's it los of times, it's
five and fly ten times. In your career, you pitched
over two hundred innings. You pitched three thousand, six hundred
and sixty nine and two thirds innings in your career.

(28:10):
In nineteen seventy three, Tim get this, he pitched two
hundred and seventy nine and a third innings. So two
hundred innings for Jerry Royce was nothing. And remember, Jerry
is a big dude. He's six ' five, all of that,
and he's a strong guy. I remember, you know, people
were saying, if it wasn't for that four years of
high school, it would have kept Jerry out of the

(28:31):
big league, so he would have had twenty six years
in the big leagues. But Jerry, I gotta ask. I
got to ask you, Jerry, what is the difference. Please
educate us on how they pitch one hundred and twenty
innings maybe, and they say, what a full season. Here
you are in seventy three, two hundred and seventy nine
innings and ten times over two hundred innings and many
times way over two hundred innings.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
Well, I thank you for that big time pat on
the back. But the guy she came before me, those
guys sometimes went three hundred innings. Guys like Carlton and
Gibson and sever Ferguson Jenkins. Those were the guys who
set the tone for starting pitchers. They were out there
every fourth or fifth day. Now, if you go back

(29:15):
even a little bit further to the generation before that,
these four starters, this is with the Dodgers, you would
start a game rest today and then throw batting practice
and then come back two days later and try to
get your nine innings in. Now, it was definitely going
to shorten a career, but it was just the way

(29:35):
it was done back in the forties and early fifties.
By the time I got to the big leagues, teams
had five starters and you were still expected to go
nine innings. If you lasted seven, and you had a
pretty good relief core in place, you had a chance
of doing some things during the course of the season.
But the game has evolved over the time that both

(29:57):
you and I have played, and their stints are shorter
and they throw harder. They have a number of different
pitches in their amimal belt that they can use during
the ballgame. And that's just the way it's done today.
Is it better, is it worse? I don't know. It's
just the way that it's done.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Well, Jerre, we appreciate you coming on this morning. Nineteen
eighty one was a great year for the Dodgers beating
the Yankees, and here we are forty three years later,
it's the Dodgers and Yankees again in the Fall Classic.
Are you anxious to see this one? Get started? On
Friday night.

Speaker 7 (30:35):
At the start of this program, was dusted off some
memories that I usually don't delve into. Just a little point.
A little fact I'll leave you with is that the
day of the game is October twenty fifth. Now, that's
forty three years to the day that the Dodgers and
the Yankees' last hookup and postseason in Los Angeles. I

(30:57):
was the one who threw the last pitch in that ballgame.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Wow. Wow, here we are here forty three years we
are years later. Wow, Jerry, we appreciate the time. Great
to hear your voice and uh yeah, Dodger fans certainly
looking for the same result that you guys enjoyed in
nineteen eighty one. Thanks for coming on with us this morning.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
Thanks Jerry, Tim, Tim, Thanks, thank you Steven. Always good
to talk to you. Hope we see each other sooner
rather than later.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
All right, okay, but thank you. There he goes the
great Jerry Royce. Great teammate, Tim, Yeah, great teammate. Oh
he was the best.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
He treated you well, young Steven Sacks in the clubhouse.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
So he was so great to me, he really was.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Thanks to Jerry for joining us. Coming up, we'll wrap
things up and we're gonna get into this heavy tomorrow
the show. Hey O Taani, should he be available to
pitch if needed? Something to think about, Dodger fans, Dodgers Yankees,
The biggest stage in baseball is the Fall Classic. The
two biggest teams with the richest history in Major League

(32:01):
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(33:05):
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Marito all right, Saxe. A couple of loose ends here

(33:25):
tonight we mentioned the Lakers tip off their regular season.
Potentially we could see Lebron James and his son Bronnie
James play in this same game, and it's a big
deal to have a father and son play in a
professional game together. Only the other time we've seen this
in our lifetime and probably ever, is Ken Griffy Senior
and Ken Griffy Junior, who Junior said him and his

(33:48):
dad are going to be at the Lakers home opener
tonight at Crypto dot Com Arena, just to have that
opportunity to see it like they were able to play
in a game together back in the day. Did you
cross as at all with the Griffy Senior or junior
in your playing time.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
I don't you know what, I think it was a
little bit after me that that that happened.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Ninety ninety one. They were teammates in Seattle, Okay, so.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
That was right in the middle. Yeah, and I was
on the Yankees then too, So yeah, I don't really
recall it that much though, but I know they hit
a home run in the same game. I think, right, yeah,
that that happened. That happened. But it's amazing thing. Have
your dad and your son playing in the same game.
I mean, that is like I can't even fathom that,
you know, that's just unreal.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yeah, that is pretty so Lebron and his son.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah, this is a This is a huge deal.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Uh, it is gonna be a big deal tonight. No doubt.
You got the The A's another story I wanted to
get to you real quick. The A's opening up or
the A's are gonna play in that parking Sacramento where
you call games there Saxony for the Triple A team.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
It's in West Sacramento, the city I grew up in,
believe it or not, really in West Sacramento. I grew
up on a farm southwest of Sacramento, and that is
now where this built up part of that place is
going to be played maybe three miles four miles from
my house, no way, Yeah, right in West Sacramentos, same city.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
And you called games for them up there as well.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
I do. I call games for the Triple A team
for the Giants. I do the Saturday home TV games.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Very nice. And now the A's are moving there temporarily
for a few seasons while their new ballpark in Las
Vegas is being built. And the big story right now
is Major League Baseball, which is basically funding a lot
of the renovations to the stadium there, including clubhouses, new batters,
eye and concessions. They're going to go with natural grass
instead of artificial turf.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
That is the switch recently, because it was artificial turf
in the beginning. But go ahead, and they made the
decision because players were concerned with the heat in Sacramento. Yes,
and the record breaking heat that was in Sacramento this summer.
Apparently there was a twenty day stretch which the temperature
never fell below one hundred degrees yet average up to
one hundred and three, got up to eighteen.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
They don't want to have the artificial turf there because
it's going to be so hot for the players during
the summer months. Instead, they are gonna pivot and they're
gonna put natural, natural grass in there. And one of
the concerns about having natural grass initially was two teams,
the Triple A teams still playing there and the Oakland
A's are gonna be playing there are the A's and
it get a lot of wear and tear on natural grass.

(36:16):
Well this is a good move, right, It's well, yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
I mean, they're gonna have a heck of a time
keeping it nice. But that plane surface during the season here,
even though it's hot, but it's gonna have half the
beat down on it because every single day there's gonna
be a game on that field. When the A's are
out of town, the river Cats are gonna be playing
and vice versa. But that that infield and that grass
is like a pool table. It is beautiful. It is

(36:41):
really a great and you know, even when I travel
on back East and people ask about, you know, the
Sacramento franchise and Triple A, it's it's like the standard bearer,
if you will. Everybody wants to be like that. It's
it's a great run place. They sell it out all
the time, and you can imagine when the A's come here,
it's gonna be there. It's already sold out like every.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Game are they are they excited to have them?

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Forget it.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
With the A's coming though, there you also get who's
playing the A's. They get to come in there, so
you're gonna see Dodgers, Yeah Yankees. I mean this this
town is like, you know, it was great when we
got the Kings, but Sacramento is a baseball and boxing town.
A lot of good boxers come from baseball and boxing.
That's what Sacramento is known for. And of course when
the Kings came here, we embraced them in basketball. But

(37:24):
this is a baseball, notoriously baseball and boxing town. Now
the Triple A affiliate, it's the affiliate of the Giants, right.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Yes, yeah, the Triple A of the Giants, right.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Okay, So you're seeing a lot of the guys who
who have been moved up to the Giants, and.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Most of them, yeah, I called the games here. When
I went to a Giants game, brought some friends, you know,
about a month ago, two months ago, and most of
them were all the Rivercats players that I was calling here.
So a lot of them got called up to the Giants.
That is very cool.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah, I'm excited to see what it's gonna look like
having a smaller stadium. And also keep in mind we're
gonna get into this and maybe tomorrow the Tampa Bay
Rays may not have a field to play in the
Tropic Canda Field because the roof blew off during the
last last hurricane.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
There.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
They're talking about playing maybe in Orlando, maybe going to
Disney World where the Braves had their spring training. I
mean they got well.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
They would probably like it because there's one way in
and one way out of that ballpark and it's not
you know what I mean, But you know what if
you talk about blowing the roof off something. Can I
make a quick note real quick before we go. I
just got a text from a very very big time
player that is gonna come on with this Wednesday or Thursday.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
I'm texting him the calling number for one of those days. Also,
some look forward to can't wait for that Saxy great show.
We'll do it again tomorrow, buddy, see you then, by
all right, Thanks to Katie, thanks to Michelle, thanks to
all you beat a bar of the show tomorrow. We'll
hear from Freddie Freeman, Maximuncie, and of course we'll hear
from the manager Dave Roberts. And we're gonna get more
into show Aotani should he pitch in this world series.
If need be the bullpen, we'll get into it. Thanks

(38:54):
for joining us this morning. The Herd with Colin Cowherd
is next.
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