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Speaker 1 (00:01):
They say, the hardest thing in sports isn't winning a title.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's hard to repeat seasons. It's winning it again.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
This year is not trying to win a championship, They're
trying to repeat.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's October baseball for your World champion in La Dodger.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
The twenty twenty five Dodgers are the National League's Western
Division champions.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
And you know what that means.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Saxon Kates and AM is back.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
This is Saxon Kates in the Morning with Tim Kates
and former World Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Reacting, taking your phone calls talking Dodgers playoff baseball all
postseason long.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Now here they are on AM five to seventy LA
Sports and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Steve Sacks, Tim Kats.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Tim Kates and World Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Another year, another trip to the National League Champion Chimp Series.
Eight times in the last thirteen years, the Dodgers and
coming on to face the winner of the Milwaukee Brewers
and the Chicago Cups. So still, I've got to play
a game five tomorrow in Milwaukee to see who gets
the right to face the world champs on Monday night.
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In Game one of the NLCS. Will it be a
Dodgers stadium against Chicago against Chicago or will it be
in Milwaukee on Monday night against the Brewers. We'll find
out depending on who wins Tomorrow night and that decisive
Game five?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Is the Dodgers uh win it?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Last night in eleven innings at two to one victory
over the Philadelphia Phillies, a wild, dramatic game. We've been
talking about it all morning. You've heard from a lot
of the different Dodgers. We're gonna hear from John Hartong
from sports and at LA. What are the good guys
out there talking Dodgers baseball here at the bottom of
the hour with us on Saxon Kate's and they am as.
We'll also get to your phone calls eight sixty six,
(01:50):
nine eighty seven to two, five seventy. As the Dodgers
look to repeat their World Series championship yet again, as
they move on to the NLCS and Philadelphia, they're licking
their wounds and trying to figure out what's next for
that organization. You got Ranger Swarez who's a free agent,
jt rual Muto who is a free agent, Kyle Schwarber,
who is a free agent. Two of those three guys
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could return. I can't imagine all three of them getting
paid what they hope to get paid in free agency,
in all returning to Philadelphia. I know they got money
in Philadelphia. I know it's a big time market there.
There are perennial winners in that division and postseason players.
But you're already paying Bryce Harper, You're already paying Trade Turner.
It's gonna be hard to pay everybody three hundred million
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dollars over ten year contracts. Not that they're all gonna
get that, but certainly gonna be interesting to see what
happens in Philadelphia. You have to imagine this core group,
this collective group that wanted to win a World Series
so bad, probably look a little different in Philadelphia next year.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
So you're saying, real, Muto, Schwarber.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
And who else Ranger Swarez. Oh yeah, all three free agents.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
Wow, it's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Kyle Schwarber is gonna get paid.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
And just just my hunch looking at free agency, looking
at the New York Mets and how bad they want
to win that division and they would love to steal
a guy from Philadelphia and they need a great left
handed bopper in that line to go with Juan Soto,
and they're probably gonna lose Pee Alonzo in free agency.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
And if you can.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Swap out Pee Alonzo with Kyle Schwarber, I think you're
you would take that every day if you're the Mets,
and as you're far as you're designated hitter.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Yeah, you're still gonna need somebody at first base if
you're the Mets. But they can do that. Remember, Schwarver
was just a one way player. He just he just hits,
that's it. But he's gonna get paid. And of course
Reo Muto is not going to get paid at the
top because he's he's been down the line a little bit.
But he's still a great player. I really like that guy.
And Suarez is going to get paid. Pitchers are at
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a premium and they're always going to get their money.
So it's the three guys right there is gonna they're
gonna break the bank, all three of them.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
J Tierra Muto was so you know thought of you know,
five six years ago when he was with the Marlins
and Philly's landed him. He ends up playing there for
you know, into his thirties. Now he's thirty four, go
one thirty five, he get two fifty seven with twelve
home runs and you know, fifty two RBI and you know,
just didn't have a great season. He's a great defensive
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catcher and he's a great guy behind the plate working
with the pitching staff. I just don't see him breaking
the bank and free agency. I see more of him
returning to Philadelphia, right fit for the right price, and
uh staying home to finish off his career in a
Phillies uniform.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Ye.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Yeah, I agree with that. He's not going to make
the money that he would have, you know, five six
years ago. Yeah, but the other two guys are going
to do pretty well, no doubt about that, and Philly
is going to do everything they can to bring them back,
I believe. But there's something special about when other teams
are courting you and telling you how good you are
and whatever. You know, people perk up and they listen,
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and you know, they're human like anybody else. And when
somebody else is telling you that, it's like, you know,
you realize start to realize what your value is.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I mean, I think about baseball in the Land Escape
that it is in every year, there's your core group
of teams that should win the championship based on how
much they spend and how talented they are. And certainly
the Dodgers are in that group and the Phillies have
been in that group the last few years because their
talented core.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
If you're JT.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Real Muto, even if you're Kyle Schwarber, you're chasing a championship.
At this point, you want to get paid. Rio Muto's
thirty four. He wants to win a championship. He's talked
about it, how he desperately wants to win a championship.
There are not a lot of options out there that
are actual teams that can compete and win and that
have money right that can spend you. I mean, you
can go to a team that you know may give
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you money, but they're not gonna win. You're gonna be
on a an eighty win team. Maybe you get in
as a wild card in an American International league, but
your best bet is probably to stay in Philadelphia where
you're gonna have a good chance to win it again.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Yeah, I mean, you know, the Mets have shown that
they've spent a lot of money and they didn't get in.
Padres didn't get in. You know, they spend a lot
of money too. And also remember in twenty twenty seven
we have the CBA looks like the bargaining agreement that
that's going to be ext fired and they have to
get a new one. So who knows what that season
is going to bring. You got to lockout, of course, yeah,
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but probably probably will. So you got twenty seven you
got to think about as well. Other than that, I mean,
it's you know, probably not gonna be the same cast
of characters. I think with the evolution of all these
young players coming up and you know, coming on to
different teams, we're gonna see I think different teams in postseason.
I think you'll have a mix of some of the
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stalwarts that are always going to be there. The Dodgers
will be there, Padres will probably still be there, but
you're gonna have some other teams coming up too.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Eight sixty sixth ninet eighty seven, two five seventy is
our number. We want you to be a part of
the final hour of scam. Here on Saxon Kates and
The Am Monday, we dive deep into this game one preview.
Who will it be the Brewers or the Cubs will
find out tomorrow night they have Game five of that
divisional series. John Hartong from Sports and LA will join
us at the bottom of the hour. But after the
game last night, a lot of celebration. David Vesse, who
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we heard from just a few minutes ago, was great
inside that Dodger batting cage celebration instead of the clubhouse
there in the batting cage on the field as well.
He does a tremendous jobs. All those interviews postgame you
can find on the iHeartRadio app on the Dodger Talk
slab there on a five seventy and the iHeart Radio app,
so you can hear all of those in case you
missed him this morning as well. But here's manager Dave
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Roberts after the game talking with the media and his.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
Thoughts, Oh my gosh, I mean that's you know, you're
talking about you one one of the great all time
appearances out of the pen. You know that I can
remember certainly, given you know where he started this year,
what he is as a starting pitcher to go out
there and you know, not only go one inning, two
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innings and then three innings, and to do what he
did gave It was a huge boost. Can't speak enough
to his growth and you know, his contribution to this
club and you know, we're we're starting to, you know,
see something really special in him and that's why he
was courted, so you know hard in the off season.
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But you know what he's done now on the biggest
of stages, he's just scratching the surface. But yeah, I
couldn't be more proud of him the left, Dave, can
you talk about Glass now as far as last year
not being in the playoffs and now having this opportunity,
as you say, the big stage for Tyler. Yeah, I
couldn't be more excited for Tyler. You know, a little
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bit looking on the outside looking in last year and
wanting to be a part of things. And you know,
all off season this season, he couldn't wait for this moment,
for the postseason and to contribute, and so he's prepared physically, mentally,
and what he did, it was his time today today,
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you know, today was his moment and I was just
very happy to see that he rose to that occasion
and gave us a huge boost. And this is something
that I know is going to propel him going forward.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
It's Zaki, Were you thinking multiple and needs from the start?
Speaker 7 (08:59):
I was thinking King At that point in time when
we went to him, I was thinking too. And then
I just felt that the stuff where the game was at,
I felt he could handle us pushing him, and he
didn't bat an eye. He was ready and he didn't
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run from it. So, you know, it's part of the
Japanese culture, the toughness. He's been a star his entire life,
and I just felt that, you know, in that moment
in the ninth inning, he was the best option right
there to keep this game going.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
I think I've seen you like come out of the
dugout to greet a picture coming off. You know, I
just think that, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
I was purilation. I think that a lot of times,
you know, for me as a coach, I you know,
I pulled for the players and just seeing you know,
in in April and May, when Rokie was sitting at
the end of the dugout watching his team play, being injured,
not performing well, and sticking with him, building a relationship
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with him, and to now see him not only go
one inning, but two innings, to be our closer and
to go three innings, I just felt so so happy.
For him, and that's kind of where that came from.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
The confidence I guess that he's shown since he's come back.
Were you surprised at all that was in there?
Speaker 7 (10:27):
I was, you know, rookie's a young player, and I
think that he's very shy reserved, but I do think
that him coming back, he's opened up a lot more.
I think he's showing more who he really is and
showing some emotion. The toughness is certainly there, and he's
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embracing it, and I think that, you know, his teammates
couldn't be more excited for him, and that's growth and maturity.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Obviously, you take the win, but what are your feelings
when it comes to Ryan Kirkering right now? Seeing that
happen on the.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
It's it's brutal. Obviously they played great defense tonight, and
you know, it's one of those things that it's it's
a it's a PfP, a pitcher's fielding practice and he's
done it a thousand times and you know, just right there,
he was so focused, I'm sure, on just getting the
hitter and you know just sort of forgot, you know,
the outs in the situation. So you know, Kirkering is
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a stud and you know, you definitely feel for a player,
and I'm obviously happy that we won, but it's just, yeah,
it's he He's had a heck of a year and
is a heck of a pitcher.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
All right, there's the manager, Dave Roberts. A tip of
the cap to him.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
He shouted out the Phillies organization and coaching staff and
the players at the beginning of his press conference and
they're asked about Ryan kirkering and playing the eleventh Inny
and nothing but class talking about how he feels for
him as well, but certainly the Dodgers benefit from that
air made in the eleventh inning, and he singing the
praises of Rookie Susaki and you can hear in his
voice and it's maybe it's me reading into it, but
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Dave talking about Roki Susaki the last week and a
half was almost like, yeah, we know we really like
him back there, and you know we like him in
high leverage situations. To now you can feel it. Davis
all bought in and just love it on Rokie and
what he's done and just what he did for three
innings yesterday. They wanted him to do too, But they
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sent him back out there for three and to face
the entire lineup there of the Philadelphia Phillies, not just
the heart of the lineup, not just the bottom of
the lineup. He got all of them over those three
innings and absolutely dominated up.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Yeah he did. And it's it, you know, for a manager.
You know, there's a line between being a manager and
being friendly to the player or whatever, and sometimes those
lines cross a little bit where you're obviously emotionally involved
in the development of the player. The guy's down on
the end of the bench, he's hurt, he's not playing well,
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he's dejected, he's over here from a new country and whatnot.
And then he gets better and now he becomes a star, Uh,
everything that you thought he'd be. How can you not
get involved in that? So when he talks affectionately about
his players, I think that's a good thing. I really do.
I mean, how can you not be involved? I mean
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when I was playing and h you know, a guy'd
be going through a slump, and you know, you know
his wife and kids, you know the whole family. You
know the guy, You've been through the through the wars
with him, and then all of a sudden, he gets
a big hit and he starts taking off again, and
his career is is really uh, you know great again.
You're just so happy you just can't help but being
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you know, happy about somebody else being successful like that.
And that's part about what being a teammate is. You know,
you're with these guys more than you're with your family
during the season, and to get to to not get
emotionally involved and and and all the guys on your
team is uh, it's you're probably not human then, because
it just happens.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
On the side of that.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
You saw that with Oriyan Kirkreen and the immediate put
the arm around him and hug him up and make
sure he realizes that he is not alone in that defeat.
And yeah, it was his play, his throw that lost
the game. But to see guys rally around him and
his teammates say all the right things, and his manager
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put his arm around him in the dugout and talk
to him immediately about what just happened is the opposite
of that. The praises that you're sung by a manager
and the respect and the humanity of it is one
side and the other side in defeat is a completely
other side of it that we don't see a lot.
And credit to the Phillies for surrounding their reliever right
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there in the time that well, probably his lowest point.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Yes, no question about it. And I like to see
that about the team rally around their guy. And you know,
you win with everybody and you lose with everybody's That's
a great thing about being a teammate. And you know, Tim,
through all the years that I played, I think the
one thing that I cherished most was being a teammate.
It uh, it's with you for your whole life. These
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guys are always your brothers. I don't care where they're from,
what they look like means absolutely nothing. These guys are
are your family forever and that never leaves. And you know,
I've been out of the game for a long time now,
and I see my teammates at Dodger Stadium or wherever,
and and I love my teammates. I don't really miss baseball,
but I missed my teammates a lot.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Eight sixty six, nine eighty seven To wait which teammate
the most though, Which of all the teammates out of
all of them, out of all of them, which is
the one you really miss Okay, so it's just between
you and me, between me and you, No tim I couldn't.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
I couldn't say. I couldn't say, just one.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Who's the one you're not missing the most, Who's the
least one that you're not missing at all?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I'm just kidding. I'm gonna put there was very few
of those, you know.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
That's another thing, honestly, I'll tell you, and this is
just you and me talking about nobody else. Listen, I'd
say that out of all the guys I met my
league Major League playing baseball for you know, seventeen and
a half years of professional baseball, I can tell you
there's probably zero point zero zero zero one percent of
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guys that I didn't like. I mean, I liked everybody
I played with, and I loved everybody I played with,
and it was there was maybe one or two guys
that you'll never know of that I really didn't care for.
But man, they really had to do some stuff to
get under my skin because because you know, you go
through the same stuff, man, you go through the good
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and the bad, and you're all in it together.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
So very few, that's that's cool to hear.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Jabber in Westcovina. Thanks for being patient. You're on Saxon
Kates and the am here on a f I seventy
l A Sports.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
How you doing.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I'm doing well. Thank you, Thank you guys for allowing
me to make a couple of points here. I want
to speak about Dave Robers real quick. We fans are
very quick to judge Dave rovers when he make mistakes,
and he does make mistakes. He's human. But the thing
is the one thing that I always when when when
when I see him I'm making a move that I
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don't agree with. The one thing that I that I
always go back to is we we we're quit very
quick to judge him and say fire him, fire him,
get him out of here. But then but then who
are we going to get to replace him? That that's
my question? After that, who is who is out there
available that is gonna make relationships with the players? That
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in which, in my opinion, I believe that's the most
important thing that the manager must have. The the X
and wise, you know, all the stuff again, playing all
the stuff, they have assistance that's gonna happen with that,
but having the personality to deal with players. I believe
that that's extremely important, and Dave Robert has it. The
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other point that I want to make is the of
the offensive players are struggling right now by his Altani
and Freeman. Uh you know, I I think it's more
than them struggling. And I just got to give credit
to the pitching staff or the Phillies many they're nasty.
They're nasty. I don't these guys, all of the pitching staff,
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the Phelies were preparing for every single hero of the Dodgers.
And when you have so much focus on all these guys,
planning and doing all the research on the weaknesses and
all that stuff. I mean, I cannot blame somebody like
t O yesterday looking Philly on Ada bad that bad
and the seventeen I think it was when he struck
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out with pitches that were outside. I mean, these guys
are filthy and and for TiO, you know, to have
a bad bad there. I'm always conscious to understand that. Man,
I'm not given fast because I know the pitch was
three feet outside. But listen, it is I hear before
I then I play a little baseball and I understand
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how difficult it is to a pitch that is seventy
miles four hours, let along one hundred miles per our pitch.
I cannot imagine how difficult that is. But anyway, so yeah,
I just wanted to let you guys out my thoughts
about that that we fans we need to shield a
little bit when it comes to joining these guys. They're
trying their best. I guarantee you Dave Robs every time
he makes a move, he thinks it's the best move
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for for for that particular moment. And the same with
hitters when they're hitting out there, they're trying their best.
I'm pretty sure they're imagine imagine what happened to the
picture of the afphilies. I don't think he tried to
he tried to throw the ball away yet gets the moment.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Man absolutely Harvier. We appreciate the phone call, well said, Yeah,
Dave Roberts is a great manager, and there's no doubt
that win or lose this postseason, he has done his best.
He has put the Dodgers in the best situation. There's
no doubt about that. All Right, we'll come back. We'll
hear from John hart Tongue from sports net l a
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host of Access Sportsnet Dodgers. Get his thoughts on this
Dodgers team as they now advance to the end at LCS,
they will face either the Brewers or the Cubs, whoever
wins that Game five of their ANLDS series Tomorrow night
in Milwaukee. John Hartong and your phone calls the rest
of the way right here on AM five seventy LA
Sports at Sex and Kate's and AM here on AM
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Speaker 2 (20:36):
During this Dodger rye, we are with you.
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Six am to nine am, talking Dodgers Baseball, reacting to
the games the night before, getting you ready for the
games still to come. And the Dodgers now play the
waiting game to find out who they will face in
the NLCS on Monday.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Will it be home against the Chicago.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Cubs or will it be in Milwaukee on Monday night
against the Brewers, who had the most wins in baseball
during the regular season. And joining us now, he has
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big Dodger fan himself. The one and only John Hartong
joins us here on a five to seventy LA Sports Jehn,
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
How you doing, Buddy?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
I am doing great, especially after that win last night.
I still kind of can't believe what I saw, but
it was. It was a fun one, I know, for
myself and all of us in the studio, on the sets,
and all the fans of the stadium. One a night
that was awesome.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
A lot of baseball.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
You have seen John pre impost covering these teams the
last decade plus. I don't think we've ever seen a
finish quite like that last night, ending the way it
did in a clinching fashion. What a wild finish.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
It certainly was. And I even said on the air
last night, I actually didn't know that our control room
was recording us while we were sitting there watching what
was happening on the sets, and I leaped out of
my seat. Jerry jumped out of his seat and was
parading around the set there, and I was caught on
camera saying what just happened? What the heck was that?
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And that's just kind of summed up how I felt
in that moment because I just haven't seen really a
game where a series end in any way close to that.
It was just bizarre, but it was fun once we realized,
oh my gosh, the Dodgers just won the series. Is wild.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Yeah, John, Steve Sacksy are good to be with you,
my friend, Steve.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Good to hear from you. I haven't had a chance
to talk to you since the golf course that day
last year.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
It's been a while. You really exposed me on that course.
I'll tell you what, I am horrible and you were
great by the way. I think also we got exposed
is the fact that this Dodger team finds ways to
win one home run in four games. This team is
built to mash. Didn't happen, But man, I'll I'll tell
you what, if you're going to oppose the Dodgers and
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you know they're winning games without hitting home runs, that's
gotta be a little bit scary for the opposition.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
I would think.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
So.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I mean, they hit under two hundred in that series,
they won a playoff game, a clinch game, and they
went bo for six with runners in spring position. They
won a playoff game they didn't have an extra base
hit in. They won a playoff game where there was
a bases loaded walk and a walkoff error. I would
think that other teams look at that. Wait, the Dodgers
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won a game doing that. We did all these great
things against their offense, and we still couldn't beat them.
But I think the Dodgers' offense going forward, they're going
to have to swing to pets a lot better. I
know that they face some of the toughest pitching they
will have faced the entire season. Those three left handed
starters that the Phillies threw out them, and fortunately none
of the other teams still left have three left handers
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like that. You might have a school bawl with the
Tigers and a couple of other guys, but nobody has
a staff like the Phillies had that they were able
to throw at the Dodgers in that series.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
John, I go back to April early May. Roki Sasaki.
He's a different guy. He's like Robocoff. He's turned into
Sasaki two point zero here in the reliever guys, fastball back.
He's got that confidence there. It is truly amazing. To
see Roki Sasaki from six months ago and the Roki
Sasaki that we're watching here in October.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Absolutely, And I talked at length with Oral about this
exact thing, because he has been such a different guy
since he came back and had that shoulder impingement. And
I was talking to Orl about the fact that when
he was down in Triple A they just scrapped his
slider entirely. His velocity had been down really going back
to the start of the season. It was still down
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when he started his rehab in Triple A. He didn't
have any command. And Orl said, what that allowed him
to do when he got away from the slider was
every pitch was just a fastball of the splitter. Those
two pitches he was able to focus on just staying
behind the ball on every single throw and not thinking
about spinning a slider up there. And that helped him
unlock some things mechanically, and it brought the velocity back,
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It brought his confidence back. The splitter was unhittable. And
now we're seeing the guy that we all expected to
see when the Dodgers first signed him out of Japan.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Yeah, and John and looking at this bullpen which was
once something that was frightful for Dodger fans to look at,
is now becoming a source of a sanctuary for this team.
When you think about Rochie on the back end of it.
You've got guys lined up that are rested and healthy.
Now Vessi is throwing the ball well, you know. So
I think overall this team has recovered a bit and
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kind of gotten a little bit better in that bullpen,
where you know, you can be more thankful that they've
got these guys rested because I think they're pitching pretty
well now.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
They are pitching really well now, and I think it
does help having some of the starters moved to that bullpen,
because we talk about them winning an eleven last night.
The bullpen did a great job. But yeah, they had
Emitt she And who was the starter down the stretch
really most of the season. He was the starter. He
pitched an inning, and Roki is technically a starting pitcher.
They got three innings out of him, so they only
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needed one inning from Alex Zavessi, who was the winning
pitcher in that game last night. But this bullpen during
the regular season was the worst in terms of ERA
by a Dodger team in twenty years and that team
twenty years ago lost ninety plus games. So the fact
that they were able to win as many games as
they did during the regular season, won a division title,
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and we know they've got the talent there. It's just
a matter of these guys getting back on track, and
hopefully they're all getting back on track at the perfect time.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
John Hartong from Sports and ATLA joins us year on
am FI seventy LA Sports. It's Sax and Kates and
they am all live in local here during the Dodgers
postseason run yet again, and that's going to continue now
into the NLCS beginning on Monday night.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
We will be the Brewers, will be the Cubs.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
We'll find out in their game five of their NLDS
wraps up tomorrow night in Milwaukee. Tyler Glass, Now, last night, John,
the sixth inning t was out there. He was fantastic.
That fastball was electric, that curveball was devastating.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
This is the Tyler Glass.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Now, I know Dave Roberts' coaching staff, Heck, Andrew Freeman
had been hoping to see since they brought him over
in the trade and signed him to that contract.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Extension. This is the guy they've been waiting and waiting
and waiting.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
For, absolutely And I said it on the pregame show yesterday.
I felt like this was kind of a legacy start
for him because he had made ten postseason starts in
his career before last night. He was two and six
with an ERA over five point seven in those starts.
He just hadn't pitched well in a postseason game. He
did have one game where I think he had five innings,
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no runs allowed, but nothing like what he showed last night.
And Jerry saw Tyler glass Now walking into the stadium yesterday,
and Jerry said to us before the game started, he
had a look on his face like I've got this today.
He had a hoodie on and he just had his
game face on. And so Jerry was convinced early on,
before he threw his first pitch that he was going
to have a great game. And he went out and
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showed exactly why the Dodgers wanted to trade for him
and why Dave Roberts says, when this guy's on, I
don't know how anybody gets a hit off of them.
Six shutout innings allowed, just two hits. He was fantastic.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
John John and looking at this this matchup that the
Dodgers had with Phillies, a lot of times it is
just about matchups. These teams pretty much mirrored one another.
If you look at the top four in each order,
the fields were two for seventeen yesterday the Dodgers were
three for eighteen. Dodgers struck out eight times these top
four guys. The Phillies top four struck out four times,
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but total both teams struck out twelve times. This was
just a kind of a tough matchup, if you will,
for the for the Dodgers. But I think going forward,
they're going to look back and say this was probably
the World Series because I think it may be like
it was in eighty eight when we faced the Mets,
they were probably the best team that we faced, and
the you know that was in the end, we's going
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along to the World Series. Thes were a tough team,
but boy, the Mets were the toughest team. Maybe the
Dodgers have faced that with the Phillies now, and I.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Think a lot of people think the same way about
last year's team and what we saw in this series.
A lot of people felt like when the Dodgers beat
the Padres. That was really the World Series. If whoever
won that series was going to ultimately win it, and
that proved to be true. Hopefully that is the case again.
But you know, me, being a lifelong Dodger, for I
never think that way. I think, oh my gosh, I'm
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always worried about the next team, whether it's the Cubs
or the Brewers, because the Brewers beat the Dodgers all
six times during the regular season. The Cubs won the
season series against the Dodgers. Both of those teams have
great offenses. They both steal bases. The Cubs have power
that can match the Dodgers pretty much. So I've always
worried about that next series. I'll find ways to think
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that that it's not going to go well for us.
But I do feel like the Dodgers have so much confidence.
They're playing the best baseball they have all season long
at the right time.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Final thing for me, John, they may be playing with
confidence collectively, but showy Otani right now is in full
struggle bust mode.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
As far as at the play this concert.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
It was evident in this series, and you know, maybe
it was the pitching and the left handers from Philadelphia.
Do you feel like he can turn things around here
in the sees, whether it's Milwaukee or Chicago.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Oh, he absolutely can. He has to. I think the
Dodgers are going to win a World Series. I think
he has to because, let's be honest, one for eighteen
with nine strikeouts in that series, that was that was
not good, to say the least. And I talked to
no more about this and I said, is this because
he's facing left hander after left hander that he's just
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flying open, constantly flying open. He said, yeah, that has
something to do with it, but it's also for him.
It has to be a mindset. And Jerry even said
yesterday that when he's facing these guys, he has to
think left center field, left field, left center field, lead
to try to keep that front shoulder in and Steve
knows about that as well as anybody, that if you're
flying open, you're just not going to have a chance
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to produce. And sometimes he was hitting little rollovers to
first base and the guys would say he was lucky
to even hit that because he flew open so early on.
So I think as long as he spends the next
few days maybe working on some things, trying to stay square,
keep that front shoulder in, not fly open show. Hey,
we'll get back on track soon.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
Yeah. And I think another part of that too, John,
is to eliminate the one third end of the plate.
Some of those pitches he was swinging at were it's
at least a foot off the plate inside. So you
got to eliminate the inner part, the inner third and think,
you know, middle away and you can still get to
that ball if you have to on the inside corner.
Doesn't mean you can't pull the ball, but I mean
you got to set up that way. And that's why
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Aaron Judge hits that way, and of course he's very successful.
But John, I just want to end on one thing,
a little factoid here, and you can take it to
the end. How you wish Dodgers zero to six against
the Brewers this year? If it is the Brewers are
facing facing I just wanted to remind people that in
eighty three we beat the Phillies eleven of twelve games,
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and in the playoffs we had to face the Phillies
and they beat us four straight. So it's kind of
a reverse what we're seeing now with the Dodgers and Brewers.
Things don't always stay the same. In that middle season.
I call it that's the regular season. There's another season
called postseason, and sometimes things can be drastically different.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Absolutely, and all likes to remind us as well, you're
eighty eight team. You lost to the Mets ten out
of eleven times, correct, and you beat them in the
National League Championship Series.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Solutely.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Those regular season, those regular season records, they don't really
mean anything at all with different teams. I mean, the
Dodgers will face the Brewers, who didn't face Shoheo Tani pitching,
they didn't face Blake Smell. So the teams are different
than what we saw a few months ago. And I
love the Dodgers chances going forward no matter who they play.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Now, Steve, you said he's a great golfer. I'm going
to tell you what. There used to be a media
game at Dodger Stadium that the media would play in
on a Sunday and the you know, all frail Griffin.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I think it was Rick Mariotto Duncan. Mario Duncan was okay.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Picture. I just tell people I homered off Mariotto.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
He hit a home run in the media game. Offer
Mariotto Duncan to left center field. I think it got
to the pavilion. It was a bomb. The only person
ever in the media game that I ever saw leave
the yard, John Hartong from John.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
John had to play in college, right John.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
I did not play in college, but I played, you know,
baseball growing up until I was about seventeen. I did
not play in college. I really became I don't know.
I started playing golf when I was fourteen or fifteen,
and that was part of the mistake, because it became
pretty good at golf quickly that I didn't love baseball
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as much anymore, and I kind of regret that. But
I did hit that home run at Dodger Stadium in
the meat game, and I was as surprised as anybody.
When I got close to first base. I looked up
in the ball with landing in the first row of
the pavilions. He's like, Oh my gosh, did that just happen?
Speaker 6 (34:09):
If you can go pavilions as old and curmudgeoned as
you are, I mean, you put there could have been
a professional baseball player.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Geez John seventeen years ago.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I was thirty eight at the time.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
It was like seventeen years ago. It was a long
time ago, thirty two.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
That's getting up there.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Yeah yeah that that that balls torched hard Timeshvillion, come on,
crushed it.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
It was awesome. I remember it to this day.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
I tell everybody John harttong is the only guy I've
ever seen in the media game. Go you are so John,
really appreciate you jumping on this morning. We'll do it
again as the postseason continues, and hopefully it's a deep
run here in October.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Thanks for doing it, let's hope.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
So thanks guys, good thanks John.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Absolutely there he goes John Harttongue from Sports and at LA.
He had a bomb off of Mariano Duncan. I couldn't
remember who it was. Rick Honeycutt was thrown for Art
against our team in the media game and Mario Duncan
for the other because they were both assistant coaches pitching
coach for Rick hunting cut at the time. And I
remember honeycut was thrown and honeycut as a lefty, was
throwing and his ball was tailing a little bit.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
That's what he does.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
And I was like, I was like, come on, man,
it's the media game. Just pipeing in there. Give us
a little VP fastball there. At one point he broke
off an aw speed pitch. I'm like, dude, come on, no, no, no, no, Rick,
come on, honey.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
No.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Yeah, that's right. But hey, if John Torch went into
the pavilion that rushed something.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Crushed it. I was jealous. I was so jealous of me.
I'm like, gosh, if hard Tongue can do it, I
gotta be able to muscle up.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
And what did you do, Tim when you came to back.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
I just hit lasers down to the left field line
and in the five six hole.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
Oh really?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Ok?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, okay, I didn't count the base hits. Yeah, absolutely.
I didn't go yard at Dodger Standing. That was my dream.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
But being able to play in the media game, play outfield,
I got to play third base, get some base hits.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
It was seriously, were you trying to go yard? Did
when hard Tongue did it, did you say, hey, I
gotta do it hundred percent percent? I was trying.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I was trying.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
I was swinging out of my heels as I was
as bad I was, I was pa I was trying
so hard to hit it out of the ballpark.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Yeah, it's all right, all.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Right, we'll come back, we'll wrap things up and we'll
get ready for Monday and find it out. Who will
be the Dodgers opponent in the NLCS. He is Steve Saxon,
Tim Kates. It's sax and Kate's at the AM right
here on AMPI seventy el I Sports with the Dodgers
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advancing to the NLCS that starts on Monday, either at
Dodger Stadium against the Cubs or Monday in Milwaukee against
the Brewers. That means Scam lives to see another week. Yes, Saxon,
Kates and the AM back with you on Monday, bright
and early at six a m. As we get ready
for the NLCS. We'll preview that Game one pitching matchup.
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Will it be Blake Snell, Will it be Showy Otani?
Games one on Monday night, Game two on Tuesday night,
And in the series we'll have a day off on Wednesday.
It's a best of seven moving forward in the NLCS
and in the World Series. Looking forward to exciting weekend.
He got the ALCS Game five tonight in Seattle with
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the Tigers and the Mariners. Zaxone, and then of course
coming up, you've got the big Game five tomorrow night
in Milwaukee between the Blowers and the Cups. So just
like baseball wants a long, dramatic series, I love it.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Tw We'll be watching, no doubt about it. Tim wanted
to ask you since the you know, Dodgers aren't playing
this weekend, they start on Monday, as you pointed out,
I wanted to remind you that the forty nine Ers
are playing the Buccaneers this weekend. And I know you
were curious about that, being a big Niner fan. So
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that's where it is. It's at home against the Buccaneers.
Just thought, I tell you, just Tree, you and me.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Okay, Well, I know the Bucks are gonna be without
wide receiver Godwin. He is likely out against that game,
and I know Matt Jones he is going to get
the start in place a broad pretty a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
So Cordy Anders have basically everybody out the uh.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Excuses already listen, Boses out, I Ukes out, George Kittles out.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
You just na just picked somebody and they're out. They're
all hurt.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Wait a second, I heard I heard this song and
dance a week ago when they went to LA with
a bunch of injuries and they went and they beat
the Rams on a Thursday night.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Yeah, they they fumbled, They they stripped them on the
one yard line. Come on, that's that. They should have
lost that game.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
You guys can beat Baker Mayfield and the Buccaneers, Well,
well we should. But like Baker. I like Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
I do too. I love that guy.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
My Raiders are in action against the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
Now that's my second favorite team. I love the Raiders
even though, hey, look they need a quarterback. Tim Gino Smith,
God love them. But you know what, Uh, they need
a quarterback. They need to draft somebody. They need to
get the best pick in the draft that's a quarterback
and have some hope in the organization saying this is
going to be our salvation. This guy is going to
be some way we can look forward to. But you
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know they got the boers is out and uh, you
know the other tight end, Michael Mayer's out.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
I love talking football. Was scam here. This is awesome.
Scam can do that. You know what, We're gonna start
opening the door for some more NFL talk.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
We can do that.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Let's go. I'm excited now.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
Yeah, no problem.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Big NFL weekend coming up. Big college football weekend coming
up with USC hosting Michigan UCLA on the road, taking
on Michigan States. We got a big one coming up Monday.
The NLCS is a Dodgers advance. Steve, great week of shows,
great morning today, and we'll be backing on Monday morning.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Joy your weekend.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
Back at it, brother, See all right there he goes
Steve Sex. Thanks to Michelle. Thanks for you Dodger fans
for being a part of the show. Coming up later
today he's rugging and Rodney newon to three and then
the Petrels and Money Show with Jonas Knox and Dave
Damn Shack from three to seven, leading you into a
great sports weekend.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Enjoyed everybody, so long.