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October 17, 2025 • 39 mins
Steve and Tim talk with David Vassegh about the NLCS. Calls on the Dodgers and Brewers. Steves Keys to a Game 4 win
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
They say, the hardest thing in sports isn't winning a title.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's hard to repeat seasons. It's winning it again.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
This year.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Is not trying to win a championship, They're trying to repeat.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's October baseball for your world champion in La Dodger.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
The twenty twenty five Dodgers are the National League's Western
Division champions.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
And you know what that means.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Saxon Kates and AM is back.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
This is Saxon Kates in the Morning with Tim Kates
and former World champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Reacting taking your phone calls talking Dodgers playoff baseball all
postseason long.

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Now Here they are on AM five to seventy LA
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Steve Sacks, Tim Kaits, Tim.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Kates and world Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Our three Saxon Kates at AM here on AM five
seventy LA, spars Lin and Loco on your Home of
the Dome here saying five to seventy LA Sports. As
a Dodgers postseason ron continues in dominating fashion with a
three to one win over the Brewers yesterday. Now up
three games to nothing and it's best to seven NLCS.

(01:14):
We got tickets to Game four, which is tonight five
point thirty eight first pitch right here on AM five
to seventy to give away between now in nine o'clock
along with the Surf Side Vodka cooler and the quarter
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Dodger fan is going to get all that thanks to
our friends at Surfside Vodka and of course our friends
at the MLB Network with Saxy joining us now, the

(01:35):
best Dodger insider when you want the information straight from
the horse's mouth, it is David Veasse because he has
got the best information and he is all over its
off all, off season and during the season. He is
the one and only David Vease. Good morning, David. How
you doing, buddy? I'm you agree.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
It was great to see both of you at the
stadium yesterday. Perfect strike from Steve sat.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
It was a perfect strike with Steve Sacks. Him and
Mike Sooshia both looked great out there. We're in that
Dodger uniform. You had the American flag out there, the
great national anthem, the teams lined up and then there
he is Steve Sacks and Mike Soosha is just throwing strikes.
Miguel ROAs, by the way, I hope his hands okay, David,
Because Saxy threw that strike right down the middle.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
He let him know who was the original great middle
infielder for the Dodgers, That's for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
No doubt about it. He did send a message real quick, David.
I want to start off with MOOKI betch the play
in the ninth Inny tremendous and I think it just
sort of shows the transformation he has made over the
last two plus seasons from when he said I want
to play shortstop. Gavin Lux isn't cutting it. Put me
at short I'll figure it out. He did last year

(02:47):
along the way turned into a really good the defensive
shortstop this year. And that play in the ninth inning,
that Derek Jeter esque throw was tremendous.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Yeah, how many people know this. After the Dodgers won
the World Series last year, Mookie took about a week
off and then started working on playing shortstop because he
was intent on playing it again this year and playing
it at a high level. So he got one of
the Dodger coaches, Pete Montero, to go around to whatever

(03:19):
field was available in the San Fernando Valley, and from
November one on he worked on shortstop literally every single day,
maybe took weekends off. But this is not something that
just happened by him playing spring training or just taking
ground balls before games. He put in a lot of

(03:40):
work this past offseason. And he told me, I remember
we were at Justin Turner's golf tournament. He told me,
this is the quickest I have ever started to get
ready for the following season. But he was intent on
being a high caliber shortstop. And look, he's going to
do something that only one other player has ever done.

(04:00):
That's when the goal glove in the outfield, goal glove
in the infield, and that was Darren Urstad for Mike
Soosha's Angels.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
Wow, that's very interesting, Dave. A great scene yesterday. Had
a great time with you guys before the game and
looking at this series of way it's going down now, Dave,
if you ask the Brewers, they would want to get
the Dodgers on their terms. I mean, hey, no, slug,
it's all going to be about, you know, pitching, bullpen
and great defense.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Dodgers say, okay, we'll tip the.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Cap to that suggestion, and the Dodgers are beating these
guys at their own game. How about Max Munsey at
third base making that play. Of course, the great play
that was done at the end of the game by
Mookie Betts. But the bullpen now becoming a sanctuary on
this team, Dave. They came in there and they just
shoved for three and a third yesterday. Masterful performance by

(04:55):
the Dodgers on those.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Grounds, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Steve and Munsey's made two great postseason plays so far,
the wheel play in Game two of the NLDS and
then that one in the second inning that was huge.
And speaking of the Dodgers, kind of taking a page
from the Brewers book, how about the Dodgers Freddie Freeman
going to third base first to third on Tommy Edmonds

(05:18):
go ahead RBI single. Brewers weren't expecting that that was
an aggressive base running play to take extra ninety feet.
So it feels like the Dodgers have the Brewers on
their heels, not only in the pitching department, but now
on the bases and defense as well. And you look
at this series, I know the Dodgers have to say
all the right things and they have to have that

(05:40):
mentality that they haven't accomplished anything. But when you look
at the tail of the tape here, the Brewers just
don't have the offensive power to compete with the Dodgers.
And also the fact that they threw their best picture
at the Dodgers yesterday for five innings in Jacob Mazerowski,
and they still lost the game. So now they have

(06:01):
to turn to Jose Kantana, who the Dodgers have scored
eleven runs against in three postseason starts.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Dave, yesterday we were texting Tyler Glass. Now a little
you know, traffic on the base pass early, but I
thought he did a great job getting in and out
of that and you know, continuing to go out there
and work and grind. And it turned into what turned
to be a really good pitching matchup between him and Misserroski,
going toe to toe like two big heavyweights that they
were out there for four plus innings.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Look really talented pitchers. But everyone from Mark McGuire to
Andre Ethier has told me in those conditions yesterday, starting
a game at three o'clock, the pitchers mound, the home
plate is in shadows, but the hitter's eye is drenched
in sunlight. It's the most miserable hitting conditions you can

(06:53):
ask for a Dodgers stadium, because the way they described
it is you can't see the seam, so the baseball
you just see a gray object and glassnew and Miserowski
were smart enough to realize that and not do the
hitters any favors by throwing off speed pitches, just pumping fastballs.
And in that sixth inning, when the Dodgers mounted that rally,

(07:15):
the shadows started to come across that hitter's eye to
give them a chance.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
Dave, you had mentioned before you talked about the difference
and talent on this team, you know, having to face
four number ones, having to get on their terms and
still have them beating you with defense and bullpen and whatnot.
But just for the average joe out there that comes
to the ballgame and watches even people, then are I
talked to people the stands yesterday when I was on

(07:41):
my way out. The discrepancy of talent, the gap between
these two teams is really starting to show up because
we haven't seen the best of the Dodgers yet, believe
it or not, we haven't seen one part one plank
in that platform that hasn't come out, is the real
ability to slug so and so still you see the
Dodgers thumping these guys. I mean, what is your opinion

(08:04):
from all the teams that you've covered, what is this
team looking at, what's the mindset of these guys looking
at over there from the Dodgers and say, we haven't
seen the best of these guys yet, but man, these
guys are tough.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
It feels like that's what's given these guys more confidence
to believe there's even more in there when they get
to the World Series, because you're right, they really haven't
slucked their way to scoring runs so far in this series.
And if you take Game four the NLDS, it was
one of those rare games where the Dodgers did not

(08:38):
have an extra base hit and they still won the game.
That's not something that Dodgers did a lot of in
the regular season. But it all stems from the starting pitching.
If Freddie Freeman has said this on numerous occasions that
the starting pitchers, knowing that they have those guys, allows
the offense to understand they don't have to score five

(09:00):
or six or seven runs because at a certain point
in time in this season, Steve, they felt that pressure,
they felt that urgency that Okay, five runs, four runs
is not going to be enough, considering the way the
bullpen was going, considering a lot of their starters were hurt.
But these guys, the way they're pitching just has such

(09:20):
a trickled down effect on the outcome of games where
you can win games three to one, you can win
games two to one and don't have to hit three
or four home runs. And I think everybody should be
very happy with the fact that Dodgers are up three
to zero with not a lot of contributions from Shohyotani,

(09:40):
Mookie Betts, and Freddie Freeman offensively. That first inning was
basically the most we've heard from Otani and Mooki offensively
in this series. So that's a scary thing for the
Brewers today. That's a scary thing for the Blue Jays
or Mariners in the World Series because that's not going
to last too much.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Longer the World Series. David, and I'm hoping you and Steve,
with your mutual friend in the hierarchies of their of
major League Baseball with Rob Manfred can put in a
good word. I know they're not gonna do it. But man,
we're gonna have to wait a week for the World
Series to start next Friday, whether it's at Dodger Stadium
or in Toronto or wherever.

Speaker 6 (10:20):
They know.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
If the Mariners get it will be a Dodger Stadium.
But we're gonna have to wait a week here, David,
this is too long.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah, I agree with you. I don't know why the
dates can't be more flexible, but obviously the World Series
is an event. TV has a lot to say, our
guy Joe Davis, Fox Sports, they have a lot to
say as far as the date and the scheduling of
the World Series. But yeah, I may start to inquire
about that and what the reasons are for not being

(10:48):
able to be more flexible to start it. But consider this,
if the Dodgers sweep today, which I expect them to do,
and the Blue Jays now have even the ales, the Mariners,
if they pull out this series, are in a really
bad pitching predicament to go into the World Series against

(11:08):
the Dodgers. While again similar to the NLCS and also
the NLDS, the Dodgers are going to have their starters
not only on regular rest, but on extra rest and
again are going to be able to line up these
fantastic four to start these games and be well rested

(11:29):
and ready to go. So the Dodgers again are in
a golden spot with their pitching, and it's going to
be tough on the Blue Jays and Mariners to be
able to score against these guys if they're that well
rested at this time of the year.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
Dave, I'm I'm just I'll go out on this one,
and I just wanted to ask you this question. It's
kind of like looking forward and whatnot. I realize that,
but Sasaki as well as he's doing in the bullpen,
that filthy awful I mean splitter that he threw to
was it to Durbin? My gosh, that thing broke down
and in It was just ridiculed. I've ever seen one
break like that. Do they try at some point, because

(12:07):
he's so good for just a limited time he's been
there closing, do they sometime maybe this winner, try to
persuade him. We've got tons of starting pitching. Maybe this
is the answer to the lockdown situation. I mean, it
probably costs him a ton of money to switch from
being a starter to a closer like that, But is
that in the cards anywhere or is that just a

(12:30):
one off.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
That makes a lot of sense baseball wise, but business wise,
and Rokie and his visions for his career major League baseball.
We're not to be a closer. It was to be
a starting pitcher. So I feel like the Dodgers reassured
Rokie do this role and we'll get you back to
being a starter next year. And we saw Steve, you

(12:53):
can never have enough starting pitching. We never know what
the tax is going to be next year after going
on all the way to the World Series. So I
would say the Dodgers and Roki already probably have an
agreement to allow him to go back to being a
starting pitcher next year. And look, if it doesn't work out,
the Dodgers have more of a lake to stand on,

(13:14):
to say, the best way for you to succeed is
to be this super closer with your two pitches, with
your one hundred and your your fork knuckleball that they
call a splitter because that thing tumbles and has no
spin like a knuckleball.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Well, David, if the Dodgers celebrate tonight by clenching the NLCS,
no doubt Dodger fans are gonna want to keep it
right here on Ami seven d LA Sports because you
never know what Clayton Kershaw or a Dodger will say
or do to you in that celebration down the Dodgers
batting cage, and who knows, in a couple of days,
rotowear dot com may have a T shirt out there,
and all of a sudden, during the Dodger workouts next week,

(13:52):
we're gonna start seeing all these T shirts with the
latest phrase uttered by a Dodger player. So it'll be fun.
I mean it's sexy if you don't know the whole
comment from Clayton Kershaw about you know what, what did
you say about the pants wearing the past name because
they made it into a T shirt?

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Yeah, I just said, oh, you don't really you don't.
Do you want your shirt back? And he said, no,
I don't want my shirt back. I hardly want pants
on and they made a shirt out of it.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
I love it Dodger players are wearing during the workout.
I love it.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Hey, Dave, did you notice did you notice the flyover
for Soshia myself for the first pitch? That flyover was
for me and sosh You know that, right.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Oh, of course, of course I knew that. Of I
knew that immediately. I mean, they had Dodger royalty. By
the way. It was like, you know, for the Lakers.
It's like when James Worthy and Michael Cooper walk into
the press box at Staples Center. I mean, you should
have seen these these so called very very professional media
people in the press box yesterday when Mike Sooshia and

(14:50):
Steve sax walked through that press box. I mean, the
fanboy and all these people came out there like taking
like incognito videos of these guys.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Oh, I didn't see it was pretty special. I think
they just wanted to get so some lunch. I think
that's what it really was.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
I think that I was looking for the Dodger dogs.
That's right, they were in the back.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
I found a Dodger dog on the little cafeteria behind
the media part part right there. I sat there at
the table myself had a Dodger dog and some chips.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
It was great. A Dodger dog and a coke and chips.
That's it perfect. Well, they need more.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Steve Sachs in our life at Dodgers Stadium, right.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
It takes everything better and puts a smile on everybody.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
We had the best time talking your saying, I absolutely
loved talking with you in the big week now John
Blendell there that was. That was such a good time.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Oh, it was awesome. And we did it in the
in the area, tim where they have all the Dodgers
silver sluggers, and we found Steve Sacks silver slugger and
he demanded that we talked right in front of that
that silver slugger bat.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
You know it was.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
It was sounds about right, you know, trying to get
the upper hand. It sounds like all about himself. Yeah,
all about me get the upper hand.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Well, Dave, Hopefully there's a celebration tonight and of course
have it right here on a seventy LA Sports all
that great interviews. Let's hope it gets done tonight and
the things a sweep. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
And now, Dodger fans, bring your voices today. It was
way too quiet yesterday. I want to hear the Dodger
fans and really cheer the Dodgers on and make the
Brewers feel that home field advantage, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
For a pitch at five thirty eight, day will be
all over. We'll see out there at the stadium.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
That Steve Sax energy. You gotta have that Sax energy
right there. It comes from it comes from the core.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
All right, deep in the course. Thank you, David, great
job yesterday.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Love you guys.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
There he goes one and only David ves. I'm like
an advent calendar. I'm just counting the time off the
clock till we get to a postgame celebration. Hope it's tonight.
I hope it is a sweep. If not, it'll be
a Game five tomorrow. But I cannot wait for the
postgame celebration whenever it happens with the Dodgers and David Veasse,
because so many magical moments are inside that clubhouse, whether

(16:57):
it's Blake Trining, uh just you know, spray like a
fire hose, the champagne at David Vassa in this postseason
and saying, you know, like Dad, Dave, you want an exclusive.
That Dave to Clayton Kershaw saying he hardly wants to
wear pants and T shirts being made out of it.
It's a it's always a treatment. We're lucky to Dave's
right in the middle of it too, right in the middle.
And the guys love him. They love oh God, I'm

(17:19):
coming over. He doesn't wear goggles in there, doesn't God, no.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
No, I listen. I've talked. I talked to players whatever.
They love David Vassa and and you know what, they
trust him and so he can get he can get
the interviews like nobody because they love the day. He's
part of the team.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
And speaking of talking, you talked to show hey Otani,
and coming up in just a little bit, you're finally
gonna reveal to us what number seventeen, Show hey Otani
said to you.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
And your firm handshake. It's very private, Dave, I mean
tim very private firm handshake right in there.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
It was.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
It was all the way to the thumb, thumb to thumb.
It wasn't one of these you know, yeah, let me
grab your fingers. No, no, that's a wimp handshake. He didn't
whip me out at all. And but I didn't want
to go too hard on him. If you imagine, if
you would, if I would have like, you know, you know,
injured a meta tarsal or whatever like that, I would
have been really upset.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
It was his pitching hand. You would have not been alt.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
I was squeezing his pitching hand. That's a seven hundred
million dollar hand. Okay, I kind of took it easy. Yeah,
as you should.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, I mean, you never know, don't hurt the golden goose.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
But I didn't want to get a wimp handshaking. I
want to feel a little strength, you know. And yeah, yeah,
he's he's a big, strong dude.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
The dude's a unicorn. You got to shake a unicorn's hand. Amazing.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
If I talk to you, maybe the most you know, photographed,
uh sports guy on the planet, hands down, I think so,
hands down, no pun intended.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
I love it. Yeah he is. Steve sacks up, Tim
Kate's your phone calls, somebody's going to Game four the
NLCS currency the MLB network and went in his surf
side vodka prize bag. That's next right here on AMPI
seventy eight sports. You know, if you're not learning something

(19:06):
every day, you're not getting better. So what Willie May said,
and I just learned something you did during the commercial
telling because I kind of challenged you on this, you
did and I appreciate that because if you're not being challenged,
you're not learning. If you're not learning, what are you doing?
You're just existing? Right, PHIP MLB Network and our buddy's

(19:27):
Mark de Rosa, Billy Ripkin doing a great job breaking
things down, had a giant graphic on their screen that
said PHIP and it had a list of pictures. Yeah,
it's an eternal metric for pitching. It's a newer number
that they use, right, it's there's a number one guy
right there, Shoho Tani. And I said, what is a
FIP And you said, well, if you don't know what
it is, Kate's look it up. So I looked it

(19:48):
up a PHIP fielding independent pitching. Then I said, okay,
that's great, but I don't understand what that means saxy,
so I looked it up a little bit more. It
measures a pictures perform RMAN based only on the outcomes
they could control as the pitcher, home runs, given up, walks,
given up, hits by pitch, and strikeouts. It's designed to

(20:10):
provide a more accurate picture of a pitcher's effectiveness effectiveness
by removing the impact of their defense and luck on
balls in play. It's calculated using a formula similar to ERA,
but focuses on three true outcomes at a scale to
look like an ERA with a league average fit typically
around four hmm.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
So okay, so that gives you a more break a
better breakdown of what he is by himself, what he
is besides having great support. Some defenses aren't as good
as others, right, and so their FIP would be improved
if you know, the better they do without having to
rely on that defense. Okay, So that's what it is basically.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
So it's the Paul Schimes measurement because he doesn't have
a very good defense behind. By the way, he was
second next to Otani. There you go. Yeah he a second.
That makes sense. Yeah, I mean strikeout Yeah, they just
show him on to you. So yeah, he was first.
So Tony strikeouts are high, doesn't give up a lot
of home runs, but may not have the wins and losses,
so only he doesn't walk a lot, I don't believe. Yeah,
So that's that's better acting. I get that. I the

(21:15):
more we talk about it, I'm learning about this. Yeah,
and again, learning something every day is a good thing.
And I just learned about the FIP. So moving forward
now when I do Dodger talk and here on scam
for the foreseeable future, Uh, we're just gonna talk FIP.
That anytime we reference a pitcher FI. Now you know
what whip is, right, Yeah, it's where you you know
you get it. It's not done, no, no, no no,

(21:38):
it's a whip it and it's not that it. Whip
is winds, Nope.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
Walks and hits per innings pitched. Walks and hits per
innings that's the acronym. Yeah, walks and hits per Indians pitch.
So it measures how many times what's the traffic on
the basis Okay, you walk, you hit, you know, walks
and base hits that you give up for in each pitch.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
It's a pretty good metric.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
Anything under one point to one point twenty five is
kind of like the level. Anything south of that is
really good. You see, like like some guys, I think
Hunter Green his whip was like zero point nine to
nine ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
So you get some of those guys that kind of
fill up the strike zone. I don't know what Otani's is,
I can look it up real quick, but you have
you have a lot of these guys that are that good.
At the top of the class pitchers, they're they're around
one and even under. It's it's ridiculous, how good it.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Is, so can we get rid of E R RA
and can we get I mean, wait, I still like
E R do you? Yeah? It's there run average Okay,
I still like it. But that's that's factoring. And now
the defense, which you can't control as a pitch.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
That's true, but this is not you know, kind of
to bump up against whip, a whip or a fip.
It's another metric to kind of measure the picture as
he is integrated into his defense.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
And I think that's what ERA is. I'm all about
the fip now, I like a lot because it measures
a picture based on what they they can do, right.
I'm it's more of a deeper dive. I love that.
I know you how many walks, how many hit by pitches,
how many strikeouts, how many home runs? That to me
paints a better picture of how good a pitcher is.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
It gets in front or before the defense, because whips
the same thing. How much traffic are you going to
put on the base? Walks and hits? Okay, you're going
to give those up as a pitcher right then, and
then you get the next next one would be era.
You earned run depends on your defense too, So that's
kind of like the third in line I would say.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I mean, I look at wins and losses as it's
a cool measurement still in baseball. But Paul Skins, I think,
is Yeah, come on, he's no ten and ten. No,
this guy, this guy's a seventeen and three. But the
team behind him, right, doesn't play great defense and the
offense doesn't give.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
It to you.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, right, So it's not his fault.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
So probably that ten and ten is kind of the
part of the wins that I like to talk about,
And that's the intestinal fortitude of the pitcher to you
grunt it out and say no, I want to stay
in the game, keep me in here, and he keeps
his team in the game over five innings and then
the team goes ahead and eventually wins. A lot of
that was because of the gut of the pitcher to
keep you and wanting to stay in for the fight.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Well, if it was all about gut, I'd be winning
a lot of games of the Big League. A right,
Come on, Eric in Hollywood and welcome to Saxon Kates today.
If I do it, Eric, there.

Speaker 6 (24:17):
Is feeling good this morning. Gentlemen. I have a pep
in my step. Just like every other Dodger fan. This
team is special, man. They know how to win and
dominate in the playoffs like Kobe and Shaq did with
the Lakers. Man, and kudos to that defense man, Mookie
and Maxie. They were flashing that that leather yesterday during

(24:39):
the game. Man, and god, Man, good baseball. It's just
it's great to watch, especially when it's your team. Man.
And I mean, I've been waiting for this for a
very long time.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Man.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
Just to sit back and just enjoy the ride, man,
because it's amazing, said Mookie.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Said.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
Job's not done, man, Job's not done. Love listening to
you guys in the morning.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I appreciate it. Yeah, job is not finished. Kobe Bryant
said it best two thousand and nine during the NBA Finals,
the Mamba mentality. I love it. I love how Mooki
Brett has embraced that. And he's right. You got to
finish off one more after that. Job is still not finished.
The goal is to win a ring. The goal is
not to hit to hang an NLCS banner.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
Are you in for celebrating at this moment in time?
If they crush these guys out to absolutely big time celebrating.
I mean, I think that should be part of the
criteria to win, is you got to you got experience
the real high in this. Yeah, and celebrate the heck
out of it. You got a lot of time off. Yeah, celebrate, brothers,
go out and have a good time.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
It's a huge accomplishment to go back to a World
Series for the second straight year. The Dodgers did it
in twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen. This is a new
group of players that have done it and they've gotten
back to the well, hopefully they're going to get back
to the World Series here with one more win, but
even more so this playoff round. It's cool you beat
the Reds in the wild Card? Were you celebrating that?
That was all No, you're not celebrating that you're supposed

(25:59):
to beat the Reds. I'm pushing on that.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
I think you celebrate it, Okay, Yeah, you validate the
Reds because they they're there for a reason. Sure, and
you accomplish something by beating them, too, straight, you celebrate that.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
You celebrate. I take a shot, Give the team a cookie.
Give your players a cookie. Let them have fun.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
They get a shot in a cookie. That's every Sea.
It's like it's like training, you know, a little doggy
or something. Every time they do good, you give them
a little treat. Okay, they did great, let them, let
them experience it and give them the big treat.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
So you beat the Phillies and the n lds.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
That to me, now you go to start going to
Disneyland and ship that and stuff that.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
That to me is h That's when we start moving
up to treat.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
That's a celebration because you beat a team that you
don't give any any handouts. Yet the big money comes
when you win the World Series and that's a lot
of ducats right there. But but but you move it
up from from celebrating the clubhouse to maybe a Disneyland
treat or something like that. After beating the Phillies, now
you be the World Series big money.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
You beat the Brewers. But you do it in a sweep.
To me, that is a couple a shot and we're
we're getting we're getting loose. Yeah a little. Yet yea.
If somebody wants to have a shot, let him have
a shame. We did something that nobody's done in a
long time, and that sweep of postseason series. Let alone
do it. In the NLCS and do it in convincing fashion.
That to me is a celebration tim dominating. I agree,

(27:17):
and I'm not apprude about that. Okay, I'm not approved.
People say, well, you know, what do you mean you'd
let him sell?

Speaker 5 (27:22):
Hey, look, I don't drink myself, never have, but but
that I'm not apprude about it. I think it's guys
want to have a shot. Let him have a shot.
I mean, as long as they stay safe, let it,
let them have a few of them, let me let
them stay safe and be at home and do it.
Or in the confines of the clubhouse. Uh, you know,
not my gig, but let everybody else.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Did you drink in the clubhouse? Then? What did you
drink when you guys celebrated? I don't know. But I
just never liked alcohol. I never drank it. I don't
like it.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
Are you grabbing just water? Were you just not drinking anything?
I love Coca Cola, man, I love the big Time.
That's probably worse than a drink, but that's what I like, right.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Coca Colas are worse, for it's worse. It's worse than
have an alcoholic drink. But I like it. I don't care.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
Okay, I just don't like to taste of it, and
I'm not for I don't care if everybody else does.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
I mean, you know, sometimes it's probably good for you.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Love.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I love And when they get to the World Series
and we're gonna have a week to talk about it.
I love the story you talked about, and we'll get
into it, but I just wanted to bring it up
before I forget that when you guys won in eighty
eight and how sick you were. Oh yeah, and everybody
was sick, the physical exhaustion that you've known. And you're
gonna tell the story next week when they get to
the World Series about what you did after you guys

(28:25):
won that series in Oakland, what you physically went to
go do because you were so tired. Yeah, in that series,
Kevin and see me Valley is next up here on
Saxon Kates and Them. How you doing, Kevin, I'm doing great.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Hey, I want to talk about culture and chemistry. In
Mookie's postgame interview, he talked about how these guys play
for each other, they support, trust each other, and really
love each other, and these are the hallmarks of every
championship team across the board. He talked about the expectations
that come with being a Dodger. You show up up

(29:00):
on time, you do your work, you support your teammates,
and you be professional. And there is only one way.
And I think, Steve, you'll beck me on this to
create and maintain that kind of energy. And it comes
from the top down, and the leader's got a lead,
and the leader of this team is Dave Roberts. Anybody
that doesn't want to give Dave Roberts tremendous credit for

(29:20):
the job that he's done is just ridiculous. These guys
love playing for him, and players on other teams would
kill for the chance. He's fair, He supports his guys,
and he puts in a position to excel. And the
latest example, Blake Trinan and the rest of the bullpen
so happy to see the result that he got. Of course,
it helps when you're starting pitcher is damn near perfect.

(29:41):
But I give so much credit to Dave Roberts for
managing the personalities, the egos, keeping this team together and
really playing for each other. I just want to give
my shout out today.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Thanks Kevin, appreciate the phone call. I'm glad he brought
that up. Yeah, he referenced Blake tryn And you know,
we go back far enough here in this October to
where fans were sour on Blake trying it in this
Dodgers Bowl, not now. Yeah, but Dave always believed. Yeah,
They've always said, Hey, those are my guys. We're gonna
eventually gonna have to need them, and I trust them.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
Yes, And and that's that's a perfect explanation that Kevin
talked about. He pretty much gave a good, you know,
summation of what is very important in that clubhouse.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
He nailed it to the tea.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
And I'll tell you another thing, when when it comes
to Dave Roberts and have to do the discipline stuff,
because there's a line that has to be drawn there
between some of your friend but I'm also you know, running.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
The team here.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
A lot of that stuff, Tim, I can tell you
from past experience doesn't even get to Dave Roberts because
there's guys on this team like Muncie and Clayton and
Tryning and guys like this that aren't gonna let a
young guy get out of line. And you know, one thing,
Gosorta told us is, don't ever, don't ever shame your family,

(30:54):
don't ever shame your family name, don't ever do anything
that's going to embarrass you right or your family. And
that's kind of what the policing of the players. They
don't even let it get there. They'll take care of
it before it has to get to Dave. I love it,
Gabriel in l A.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
You're next up on Saxon Kates and the am here
on AMPI seventy l A Sports.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
How you doing, Gabriel, Hey, hey, hey, guys, I'm doing fine.
A first time callery, Gabriel. There's a good day. It's
it's Friday. I'm working listening to you guys. You know
I listen to you guys every day. And my question
is for you guys, is I'm not not getting not
to get ahead myself. But if the Dodgers win today,

(31:32):
which I see I'm saying they are today, who do
you guys start Game one for the World Series?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Game one's gotta be Blake Snell, right, Yeah, I think
he is your horse. He's delivered so far in the
post season for you. It's not a mystery, yeah, it's
it's it's snelling game one. Whether it's the Mariners, Blue Jays, Matter,
Pearls High School, I don't care who it is. It's
Blake Snell. Gabriel. Yeah, it is gonna ride.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
We're gonna ride the pony, Gabriel. And that that's pony's
name is Blake Snell.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
You know what, Gabriel, We appreciate you working hard. I
can hear it in the background, trucks moving around. You're
doing your thing. You're listening to scam here on this
Friday morning. I want to reward you and thank you
for your your your listening to I seventy. How about
a pair of tickets to Game four the NLCS tonight.
How about a surfside vodka Grizzly Cool that you can
enjoy with you and your family and friends. And how
about a surfside Dodgers quarters up you can wear with pride.

(32:20):
How about that? Gabriel?

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Yeah, yeah, I like it?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Who love it?

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Thank you guys?

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Awesome, Gabriel. Congratulations. I'm gonna put you on hold. We're
gonna get all your information here during the commercial break.
Thank you so much for listening. I can hear the
trucks in the via. He's working early. Love it. Working
hard for us on a Friday at nine o'clock and
thank you Gabriel for that. Thank you for keeping the
lines moving. As Gabriel is going to Game four tonight
courtesy the MLB Network and our friends over there. We
enjoy watching them every single morning with Mark de Rosa

(32:46):
and Billy Ripkin and the crew doing their things in
the morning, Steve Phillips early in the morning. There on
MLB Network are Buddy, Greg Amsinger and Errol Reynolds and
all them, John pall Morosi, the whole crew, Laursha Haughtie.
They do a great job twenty four hours pre post,
all the highlights, all the analysis. You can check it
out MLB tonight before every postseason game. Go to mlbnetwork
dot com for details and how you can watch live

(33:09):
on any device. And of course, thanks to our friends
at surf Conside Vodka. We love Surfside Vodka. Grizzly cooler
coming your way, Gabriel. It's perfect for your tailgate or
your enjoyment wherever you're at. Take Surfside Vodka with you
inside that cooler and as it starts to get cool here,
enjoy that Surfside. Dodgers quarter Zips so Gabriel, congratulations, thank
you for listen.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
We'll come back. We've got Steve's keys. Hey, you hear
the song. Listen, It's whip not fip, nie Nie, It's
whip not fip Ninni. It's whip not fip.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
There you go, Tim more Scam coming up next, A
I seventy l A Sports Sax and Kate's in the am.
It's been three hours of fun on this Friday morning.
It has flown. Bob, are we almost done?

Speaker 6 (34:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:00):
I hard to believe. Right, it's almost nine o'clock to
hal a coward coming up at the top of the hour.
Rouge to Rodney at noon, Petros some money starting flex
back at two o'clock Live from Dodger Stadium until four
thirty and Marongo Casino Dodgers on deck, Game four of
the NLCS. Dodgers a chance to close things out with
the wind today. Yesterday you got a chance to you, Sacks.
And I've been waiting for two hours and forty nine minutes,

(34:22):
almost fifty minutes now to find out what exactly show
Hey Osani said to you yesterday because Steve, yesterday you
threw out the first pitch with Mike Soosha. And after
all the pomp and circumstance and the flyover they had
for you, and the American flag and the great rendition
of the national anthem, you guys were able to walk
off the field. Not before I saw you shaking hands.
A couple of the Dodgers assistant coaches, Din know Ebel,
came over and said hi to you guys as well.

(34:43):
Ron Rennicky. Yeah, I saw Ron. Yeah, come over and
give you a good I was spying with my Binoka.
Oh you did you ever.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
Get Kevin out of a seat? The guy that was
a No, you never got him because I know you're
kind of stocking him, you guys. It was a banock stock.
It was a bannock stock.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, I saw. I was stalking you, Yes, stalking me
for parts of the ballparkers just one. I was up
in the suite doing the pregame show and I was
I was talking. I had my right field side and
I was watching you warm up down with one of
the ball boys, I think down there, Yeah, a couple
of guys, And then I saw you talking to Soshia
and a couple of the Dodger assistant coach came over
and you were you're hugging them up and shaking them up. Yeah,
but you had a chance to to to handshake and

(35:19):
come face to face with the unicorn himself. I did,
and you know, everybody's wondering that that face to face
what incurred for those brief moments that you guys were
locked hand in hand, yes, and locked eye down either. Yes.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
Well, well, the good thing about is it started before
the handshake. I saw him coming out. We kind of
were walking towards each other. His hand extended first, and
it was it was like, you know, ten feet before.
So I don't know, you know, if he uh, you know,
knows anything about the former players, but he was showing
difference to former players. It's part of their culture and
it's a wonderful thing. And I loved it. And he

(35:56):
came over and yeah, it was. It was amazing what
he said. Well, it's more about what he didn't say. Okay, okay,
because he didn't say anything. Now, don't get upset. I'm
going somewhere. Okay, hang with me.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
But sometimes you can say something without actually saying something.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
There it is so so you guys remember like ESP
like extra sensory perception. There was a lot of it.
And it started before he got to me. Hand extended,
came over. It was a deep, deep friendship handshake where
his thumb to thumb okay, and it was like a yeah,
and it was it was rooted and it was a

(36:33):
good handshake.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
And and he's kind of you know, nodded.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
I nodded back, and we could tell that it was like, hey,
you know what I got you, you know, And and
he could tell that. I would say, hey, keep your
shoulder tucked a little bit and hit that ball to
right field only if you keep your shoulder down and
the end. And I know I was kind of thinking that,
and I know he felt that because when he came
up to bat, you know, the first thing he did,

(36:57):
he hits a nasty slider on the outside corner, had
to keep the shoulder in, hooked it and got a triple.
And you know, I don't want to take the you know,
the the you know, the flavor out of it. By
saying it was, you know, because of what I've.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Made, it makes sense you imprinted on him, as the
kids say, you you you telepathically were able to tell
him it.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
Was like it was like a good shot of vitamin
D from the sun that came in. You know, that's
all you know, universe stuff and all that, but it
was it was that way. That's a handshake universe, universe
going into him and he tripled.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
That's awesome. Yeah, so I don't want to take no credit,
but you know, now I see it when he slid
into third yesterday with that trip, I think.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
He when he came up, he was right kind of
looking for me. He was a little bit felt like
he was looking to point to you. I think he
would have done this and and and I don't know.
For a second there, I thought he put up three fingers.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
I don't know what that.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
Meant to you. Number three taking the number three, you know,
and we don't like cut. You know, that's why he
hit a triple. That's what he could have stopped at
second base, I thought. But he wanted to drive the
point home and he went in for a triple.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
And he came up with number three. It makes sense.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
So he printed on him, Well, you know what's awesome,
you know what it's okay, you know, that's what I do.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Maybe next time I mentioned my name as you telepathically,
I don't have to mention your name at all.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
All I have to mention is scam, and there they go.
They know that you are tied in to scam. If
you think it like you say it, it's going to
scare him. He's like, whoa, you know what?

Speaker 6 (38:27):
I like?

Speaker 5 (38:27):
You know, I like, I'm so glad that the Dodgers movement.
But we have another week at least at least scam. Yeah,
you know, so it's gonna be great. Are we going
to be on during the during the layoff time?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
I think so? Oh great? I think so that's something
I probably should have figured out beforehand. But yes, I
think so.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
It will.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
You know, we'll do a little Dodger history during the week,
get some former players and teammates on, and I'm hoping
I can come down.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
During the World Series and be in studio games. I'm
hoping this studio stuff is really even better than the
Comrax device I use at home.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Down here. This is good. YEA like this absolutely be
down right. Steve's Keys game for show, ay otanio the
mount your buddy. What happened?

Speaker 5 (39:03):
I think the Keys is you don't look too forward,
you stay in the moment, and you just put it
on these guys wipe them out now. The foot is
on the throat, quit looking forward, stay in the moment.
I think that's the key, and.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Tonight be listening. If the Dodgers clinched, David Vass will
be inside the Dodger Clubhouse wherever they celebrate the batting cages.
It'll be tarped off. It'll be a party like no
other party until the next party in the World Series,
and David Vass will have it for you. Hopefully it's tonight.
The Dodgers are just one went away. As Kobe Bryants
once said, job not finished, and the Dodgers and Mookie

(39:41):
Betts have adopted that Mamba mentality. Job not finished. Game
four tonight. Saxy will talk to you next week. Enjoy
the game, be safe driving back home. Thanks Timmy, Thanks
to Michelle and all the Dodger fans for being a
part of the show today. Dodgers one went Away, Game
four NLCS Tonight, five thirty eight. Soul everybody,
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