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October 20, 2025 • 40 mins
Steve and Tim on Ohtani's performance in game 4 of the NCLS and will we ever see anything like that again? Dodgers David Vassegh joins the guys. Who would the Dodgers rather face in the World Series, Mariners and Blue Jays?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
They say, the hardest thing in sports isn't winning a title.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's hard to repeat seasons.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
It's winning it again.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
This year is not trying to win a championship, They're
trying to repeat.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's October baseball for your world champion in La Dodger.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
The twenty twenty five Dodgers are the National League's Western
Division champions.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
And you know what that means.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Saxon Kates and AM is back.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
This is Saxon Kates in the Morning with Tim Kates
and former World Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Reacting taking your phone calls talking Dodgers playoff baseball all
postseason long.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Now here they are on AM five to seventy LA
Sports and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Steve Sacks, Tim Kats, Tim Kates.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
And World Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Dodgers playing the waiting game as they wait till Friday
to find out Game one on the World Series. Tonight
see who they're gonna play as it's the decisive Game
seven of the Alcs, the Mariners and the Toronto Blue Jays,
which has turned into a heck of a series going
to a Game seven. Shane Bieber will be on the

(01:13):
mound tonight for the Toronto Blue Jays. If the Mariners
win in advance, Dodgers will have home field beginning with
Game one and two on Friday and Saturday. If the
Toronto Blue Jays win tonight, the Dodgers will pack up
and head north of the border to Toronto, Canada for
the first two games of the seven game World Series.
He is Steve Sacks, Iam Tim Kase two hours down,
one to go. You missed a lot so far. We

(01:34):
got into showy Otani's greatest performance ever on Friday Night
with the three home runs and the six shutout, any
striking out ten greatest moment ever? Yeah, that wasn't it.
That's had to be kr Gibson, Freddie Freeman's Grand Slam.
Those go to the top of the list, but greatest
overall performance in baseball history. No arguing that Friday Night

(01:55):
and shoey Otani what he did. Dodgers ruining baseball becoming
that big narrative now that the Dodgers have run through
this postseason, we got into that. We'll get into your
phone calls as well. I think this narrative, Steve of
the Dodgers ruining baseball picked up even more steam based
on what they did to the Phillies in the NLDS
and taking care of business in five games and then

(02:15):
going through the Brewers in four games and a sweep
and really dominating all four of those games. I think
that raised the antenna a lot of these baseball scribes
and baseball people who want to start think looking at
the Dodgers, like, okay, all right, what is it about
this team? Oh, they're not good for baseball?

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Well, then then how did the Brewers beat the Dodgers
six straight during the season. If it was all about
spending money, It's not all about spending spending money as
the Yankees, as the Padres, as the Mets. It's not
all about that. It's about all the other stuff. It's
about scouting, it's about developing players. It's about chemistry on
the team. It's about leadership. It's about players policing one

(02:56):
another without the manager having to do it. Those type
of things matter. It's the unity of the team. I
think that's huge. In eighty eight, we did.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Not have the most talent.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
There's a few teams that were more talented, but we
had unity and.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
We had starting pitching. What do the Dodgers have.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
They have unity and they have starting pitching. Those those
are two elements that are just absolutely huge in a
team winning, and the Dodgers have both of those.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, and the Dodgers certainly have the great leadership in
Dave Roberts navigating him through all of this. We heard
the audio from Andrew Freeman in the first hour and
really a great backstory on rookie Susaki that you know,
we hadn't heard and was shared it with you when
he was on with Petro Some Money on Friday. Andrew
Freeman talking about how Sasaki wasn't even in the plans

(03:44):
as of a month ago to be on this postseason roster.
They were already looking ahead to twenty twenty six and
where he fit into the puzzle and next season roster.
And they approached him and said, hey, if you want
to be a part of October baseball, the only spot
is the bullpen, and even then there's no guarantees. And
he went and tinkered with his mechanics, got right, went

(04:04):
to Oklahoma City, got a couple of opportunities, and it
was interesting to hear him say Steve that even even
those opportunities late in the season there was still no guarantees.
Even though the dominance we saw in those three outings
in the final week and a half and everybody's buzzing
about rookie Sasaki and oh we found our closer, there
was still no guarantees he was going to be on
this postseason roster, and certainly no guarantees we're gonna see

(04:27):
this continued dominance. And that's like, again, that's why Dave
Roberts for so many times getting asked about his role
and his year closer, and Dave Roberts kept like, I
don't Yeah, yeah, I guess, I guess because they didn't
really know what they had.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Yeah, well, he can come in in a high leverage situation,
which is the right thing to say, because it's true.
I mean, if there's a situation the seventh inning, we
got their their big bats coming up, and the bases
are loaded and there's one.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
Out and you need a double play, hey, of course
you might.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
You might summons Sasaki to come out there and dowse
that opportunity in a very very high leverage situation.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
So I think he called it right.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
That is kind of morphed now into the pretty much
expected role of him being the closer for at least
the rest of the rest of this season, which is
four more games they need to win. Can you imagine
this team next year? You know Sasaki's really a starter.
They've gone in there with five guys that could go

(05:25):
in there and mow you down. This is you know,
a lot of teams are looking for one real true
leader that's in the one slot.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Dodgers got at least five.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
I mean, I think Emma Sheen, where does his role
in twenty six fall? I look at it. Gavin Stone,
who missed all this year, coming back from the shoulder surgery.
I don't think he's ready at the beginning of the season.
But next year, in twenty six, we could see Gavin Stone,
who was a warhorse for them in twenty twenty four
and got hurt and didn't even pitch in October last year,
He'll be coming back. Kyle Hurt will be coming back,

(05:55):
River Rhin will be coming back. You got arms that
weren't even a part of twenty twenty five year at
some point point should be returning in twenty twenty six
to go along with all these stable of horses that
you've got. It's an abundance of riches, And certainly just
when you start thinking you've got an abundant of riches,
that's when it all starts to go away. And certainly
injuries will play a factor.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
Possibly Tony Gonsolin.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, absolutely, I forget about Tony Gonslin, who's still trying
to work his way back and come back from injuries,
which is just really bitting him the last three seasons.
All right, let's go back out to the phones. David
and Temecula, thanks for being patient. Welcome to scam on
AM FI seventy LA Sports.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
How are you doing, Saxy? How you doing?

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Kate doing great?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Dave Warning, great morning, Greatest show. Hey on Earth, Baby,
everyone's jealous of the greatest show. Hey on Earth? Is
the Los Angeles Dodgers best team in baseball? They can
all be jealous. They should follow us, because it starts
with class.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
Baby.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
We're a class act organization, and every organization should be
a class act. Every other organization likes to talk smack.
We tip our caps, Baby. We respect the other teams,
and that's what that's what that's that's what baseball is, man,
and that's what leadership is. And we respect our competition.
But we also will sweep them because we're that good.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
All right, David. I don't know if other organizations are
talking smack as David elluse, So I don't remember anytime
recently a team running their mouth against the Dodgers or
other teams in baseball. But all right, Uh yeah, certainly
the Padres, maybe maybe a team that you know is
trying to undernate the Dodger skin a little bit. And
that's mostly Manny Machado in that group down there. It's

(07:32):
not necessarily coming from the front office or the organization.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
So Tim, what was it that? That was it? Uh,
let's see him trying to was it?

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yelich was saying, uh, you know about the team, He's
just kind of looking over at the Dodgers, kind of
shook his head and said, if we if we could
only get to be in that good I think he
said that. That was one of his quotes. So that
was more of a recognition of admiring a team that
just beat him, beat him down four straight. Uh, they
saw the team full he flexed, They saw the team

(08:01):
fully healthy, and that's what they faced in the postseason.
It wasn't around the All Star break where there was
no Max Muntzi. They didn't have u Otani to face,
they did have Blake Snell. This is a much different
team than what they faced during the season.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
I think of Bryce Harper in the comments that he
made during and before the NLDS talking about the respect
for the Dodgers, and it was such nice comments about
the Dodgers. One of my daughters actually texted me and said,
did you see this clip of Bryce Harper? He sounds
like he wants to come play for the Dodgers, and

(08:38):
how respectful he is and how much he is given
kudos to the Dodgers. And I think that right there
is a sign of respect from Bryce Harper realizing that
this is such a class organization. And you know, as
you meant. One of the callers brought up earlier the
Dodgers' last off season redid batting cages and redid the
visiting clubhouse and amenities down there. That's not I just read.

(09:01):
I mean, there's a reason for that, as the caller said,
you make things nice over there when visiting teams come in,
When players come around, they're like, wow, look at this. Hey,
we're the visiting team and we're living in this kind
of luxury.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
This is I don't know, it's a class maybe.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Class man.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
You're helping the other side to be comfortable too, and
this is the team you're trying to beat. But you know,
they make the amenities nice and that's that's a pretty
cool thing.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Joe and San Diego, thanks for being patient. Welcome to
Saxon Kate today. And how you doing, Joe, Yeah, really good.

Speaker 7 (09:33):
Thanks guys for having me on Love the Show. Ste
Sex always been a big fan.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Thanks Joe.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
Hey, here's what I wanted to Here's what I wanted
to say.

Speaker 7 (09:40):
In One of the colors said, you know, it's a
little bit disingenuous. I sem I agree. Let me tell
you where I'm coming from. I love baseball. They're always
gonna get my money. I'll be a lifelong fan no
matter what. It's the most beautiful sports in the history
of Man. It's the most fair sport. In baseball. If
it's not fair, it's foul. In baseball, you don't need size.

(10:02):
It's a skill sport. You have to hit a round
ball with a round surface squarely. It's very challenging. It's
a game that maybe rewards effort, but it never rewards
a lack of effort. You got nine guys all playing
on the one team against that other nine guys, but
still a one on one pitcher versus hitter. It's not

(10:24):
a game that has a time clock. Each team gets
twenty seven outs.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
It's fair.

Speaker 7 (10:31):
Fairness is what brings out the competition is what brings
out the beauty of the sport. You see effort versus effort,
and usually effort more or effort is rewarded. Well, the
issue is this spending money can't be done everywhere. As
a matter of fact, the Padres they tried this, I
think it was last year, and they got hit with

(10:53):
the debt ratio rule. The reason they did is because
the size of their market. There just aren't enough eyeballs
in that town. The town I'm fromp by the way,
I'm a Dodger fan. I get a lot of hate
down there. But they just don't have the amount of
eyeballs that the major market teams have. And even if
they did, MLB still put a stop to them because

(11:15):
of the debt ratio rule. They said, look, you guys,
you can't spend this much. You're getting a little bit
about out of your balance sheets, and they forced the
Padres to shed about fifty million or so. The game's
not different for the likes of the Yankees and the
Mets because of the size of the market. The Dodgers
also enjoy this. It seems like there's two sets of rules.

(11:38):
And what we have is if it continues, the gap
between the haves and the have not's just getting wider.
And what that does, what that leads to is other
people saying why bother? When other people say why bother,
You're going to lose the purity and the fairness of
the sport. And I think the people who are complaining
are looking down this road. Tell me what you guys think.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Appreciate the vaul, Joe. I'm not sure about that whole
dead ratio stuff that you're talking about, but appreciate the
phone call. It's interesting. Certainly there is a division between
the two sides, but I think there is that bridge
that Baseball has tried to make between the two with
the luxury tax money coming back to teams and needing
to be reinvested in the organizations and joining us now

(12:19):
are Dodger insider Steve Sachs the best of the best
again another celebration on Friday night after the clenching of
the NLCS, and who was right there getting drenched in
champagne and beer, one and only David Vez say, David,
good morning, welcome. How are you doing, buddy?

Speaker 8 (12:37):
I'm doing great. Thank you to the Dodgers for allowing
me to have a weekend to re energize. And man,
they are in a great spot to open up the
World Series on Friday.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
No doubt will find out who they played tonight in
Game seven of this ALCS. David, We've been talking about
it all morning, the greatest performance ever in baseball history
Friday night in shoe Otani. In the moment watching it,
did it come to mind? Did you start thinking about that?
And certainly afterwards that's the buzz about what everybody witnessed

(13:07):
on Friday night, the best performance ever in a game.

Speaker 8 (13:13):
Yeah, as it's happening, you're thinking, I mean, this is
out of this world. I mean, in the broadcast booth,
Rick Munday was saying, this is like video game stuff.
You don't see this in baseball. Baseball is a really
hard sport and he made it look really easy in
Game four, And yeah, I didn't really in the moment think, Okay,

(13:36):
I'm here for the greatest postseason performance ever. But once
I got down on the field and the first player
I interview is Max Muncie, and I asked him about
going back to the World Series. He didn't even answer
the question. He just said, you didn't ask. But yes,
that was the greatest thing I have ever seen by

(13:59):
one player, show Aotani. So even the players were like
little leaguers and in awe of what they had seen.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
David. We saw the reaction.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
First of all, good to be with you, Dave, glad
you got kind of re energized here for this time off.
But the reaction of those players, I mean, we saw
in the dugout Freddy Freeman's holding his head saying, what
the heck did I just see? And it was just
amazing to see the reaction of the players. My question
to you, Dave, is is it a no brainer as
far as who the Dodger would rather play? Seattle's short trips,

(14:31):
home field advantage is that the one? Or is there
something I'm not seeing about why they would rather face Toronto?

Speaker 8 (14:39):
No, you're one hundred percent right, Seattle would be the
choice because easier travel. Yes, Number two they're pitching now,
going to a seventh game is more tax than it
would be if this would have ended sooner, even though
they have more talented pitchers and maybe a deeper pitching
staff than the Blue Jays. But both these teams are

(15:02):
not in a good spot with their pitching having to
go seven games and then having to face the Dodgers.
So the travel first and foremost, the pitching in a
bad spot. Number two and number three, Vladimir Guerrero Junior
is the hottest player left in the postseason right now.
Otani had that one game, but Vladdie Junior has been

(15:23):
going hot this entire ALCS. So the Blue Jays offense
is more explosive than the Mariners offense, And for those reasons,
I would say Seattle would be a better matchup. But
none of those two teams want to see the Dodgers.
The Dodgers are the nightmare matchup for either one of

(15:45):
those two teams.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
David, what about this narrative that has been spun the
last week, maybe after the Dodgers eliminated the Phillies and
when and you beat the Brewers in four games in
the fashion they did and the performance all TONI had
it builds a little bit more steam. And Dave Roberts,
you know, alluded to it in his statements on the
on the podium. There, let's go ruin baseball with four
more wins. This whole Dodger's ruining baseball push that's being

(16:11):
put out there, Uh, what do you make of this?
Is this? Is this just baseball community trying to point
the finger at the Dodgers for all their success, jealousy?
Where is what is this?

Speaker 8 (16:24):
Yeah, it's you know, trying to latch on number one
to anything to try to impose a salary cap on
the players. I mean, that's something that the owners have
wanted for a long time, and this is just another
I guess way that they can can use it and
spin it to say this is what would be good

(16:45):
for the sport. But if you look at it, it's
it's really not the Dodgers just throwing money at players.
A lot of teams that's little money at players and
they're not even in the playoffs. I went through this
the other night on Dodger Talk. Just how they acquired
these players and how their starting lineup is is a

(17:09):
result of other teams mistakes. In a lot of ways,
they did throw a lot of money at their pitching rotation.
But the reality is the Dodgers and sho Heo Tani
got incredibly creative with his contract seven hundred million dollars. Yes,
a lot of it, as you guys know, is deferred,

(17:29):
so the Dodgers would have this roster payroll flexibility to
go out and sign players like Blake Snow, like Tyler
Glassnew like Yamamoto. The list goes on and on. And
the reason why they can have a player like shoe
Heotani and continue to sign players like that is because
of the way they got creative and structured that contract.

(17:51):
Not to mention, the Dodgers had maximized every possibility to
add revenue for having Ota on the team. The Angels
thought they were, you know, doing an incredible thing by
having a reported twenty million dollars annually in marketing revenue.
The Dodgers have blown past that. The Dodgers owners have

(18:14):
always been three or four steps ahead of the league,
and again this is another great example of that. Are
how is baseball going to try to level off the field?
I don't know, but they're going to try. And a
lot of it is connected to these regional sports networks
that have failed. The bubble is burst on that, and

(18:36):
they're going to try to find a way to tie
that all in to a new to a new collective
bargain agreement. It's way over my head. It's it's not
something fans want to hear about. But it feels similar
to ninety four. I'll just say this, when when there
was a lockout in ninety four and into ninety five

(18:57):
where it took some time for the owner to get
on the same page before they can even get on
the same page with the players union. So that's where
this is headed.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
Yeah, Dave, looking at the layoff situation right now.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
I know you talked about how tax the both of
the teams in the American League are, But as far
as the Dodgers go a week off, how are they
going to come back the fact that that's that is
a long layoff. Are they going to see live pitching?
And how are they going to go about in prepping
for this time given the layoff.

Speaker 8 (19:29):
Yeah, last night they worked out at Dodger Stadium. They
had guys that had not pitched in a while, pitch
to hitters, guys like Kasparius Krushaw. They were throwing to
hitters last night. They'll do it again tonight. So they're
doing those type of things to simulate at bats and
not just have batting practice. So they have not given

(19:51):
themselves time off. I believe they're doing what they did
last year where they had the five days off before
the NLD, and they're just staying together, watching the games together,
being at Dodger Stadium every night, just so they don't
lose that edge and that baseball field.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Dave, real quick lasting for me. Have you talked to anybody,
heard anything from anybody around baseball about what the Giants
might be doing and hiring Tony Vittello, the head coach
at Tennessee. I mean, this is a Buster Posey move
that could be a genius move or can completely backfire
on them.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (20:30):
I actually started to hear about this a couple of
weeks ago, and I guess, you know, he might be
going the Pat Murphy route to go this way. You know,
Buster Posey has done some already unorthodox things as the
GM of the Giants. This is a huge gamble. Coaching
college baseball is a lot different, as you guys know,

(20:52):
than co managing major league baseball. So yeah, this is
definitely out of the box, and I would say, I
don't know. I've actually talked to a couple of Giants
players a couple of weeks ago, and they weren't completely
opposed to the idea, but they they were a little surprised.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Yeah, I could I could see that, Dave, for sure. Dave.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Last one for me, I wanted to ask you the
pitching schedule for the World Series. I suspect Blake Snell
being game one. Where does Otani fit in the order,
and what is kind of like the hierarchy, if you will,
in the bullpen.

Speaker 8 (21:28):
Yeah, it feels like it's what it was in the NLCS. Steve.
Games one and two would be Snell and Yamamoto. Games
three and four would be glass Now and Otani. I
know the Dodgers have done a great job of lining
up glass Now to pitch at home. Maybe they tweaked

(21:51):
that and have Yamamoto ors or probably Yamamoto would be
the guy if they're playing the Mariners, find a way
to have glass Now pitch at home again, that's a possibility,
and have Yamamoto and O Tommy pitch games three and four.
But I think at this point the trust factor is
there at Glass Now he's pitched really well, but he

(22:14):
has been benefited by two starts at Dodgers Stadium where
the shadows were very much in play. And if games
are going to be starting between four or five o'clock
Pacific time of the World Series, I mean it might
be advantageous again to have Glass now start at home
with the shadows as his advantage.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Doubt David, appreciate it. We'll check out with you in
a couple of days and Dodgers will be working out
and find out tonight who they're underway on a five
seventy LA Sports Thanks a lot, David, Thank.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
You, David.

Speaker 8 (22:46):
All right, guys, thanks guys.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
All right, there he goes our Dodger insider David Bass.
We'll come back. We'll get to more of your phone calls.
We'll get Steve's take on the Mariners are blue Jays.
Who's a better fit, who's a better opponent for the Dodgers.
Eight sixty six, nine eighty seven two, five seventy Dodgers
just ruining baseball, one winning a time, and they are

(23:08):
four wins away from a World Series championship. At Saxon
Kates in the Am on a FI seventy l A Sports,
Saxon kates in the am on this Monday morning, October twentieth,
as the World Series run continues for your Los Angeles Dodgers.

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They made their way through the Cincinnati Reds in the
wild card round, took care of the Phillies in the NLDS,
and a sweep over the team with the best record
in baseball during the regular season, the Milwaukee Brewers in
the NLCS, and now Steve Saxon Dodgers await the winner
of the Toronto Blue Chase and the Seattle Mariners in

(23:52):
this best of seven game seven a LCS that's being
played tonight up at the Rogers Center. Have you the
end of the Rogers Center? I'm assuming you have, right.
You played there late in your career, I imagine, right.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Yes, Yes, played there.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Great atmosphere places rocks when it's full and especially when
that lid is closed. This place is loud, I mean
very very loud, very partisan, as you well know.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
And here's the thing too.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
If the team's not winning, like during the regular season,
you know they're not winning whatever, people don't go to
the game. They don't just show up. You know, it's
not for granted, but when the team's doing well, they
packed the place, and especially now in the World Series,
this place will be jumping.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, it's been a fun series. If you're a baseball fan,
I mean, you got Toronto and Seattle. A ninety four
win Toronto team, a ninety win Seattle Mariners team. I mean,
let's keep in mind, the Mariners aren't just a flash
in the pan. The Mariners have been competitive and right there,
neck and neck and in the postseason, in the in
the Al East the last few years. This year they

(24:58):
ran away with the division, only to see the Yankees
come back and catch them because they went on a
late run in September to get back into it. They
finished with an identical record with the Yankees. But this
is a Blue Jay's team with really good pitching. They
got veterans and Shane Bieber and Max Scherzer, and as
David Vassa alluded to, vlad Guerrero six home runs a
fifteen hundred OPS in ten games this postseason. Let me

(25:23):
repeat that his OPS is fifteen hundred. Yes, and he's
got six home runs in this postseason. I mean, it
is unreal what he has done. He's nailds and the Alcs,
and they got guys that you may not have heard
of that are contributed as well for Toronto. That's why
this series has been so fun to watch. Who do

(25:44):
you want to see in a World Series matchup?

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Steve Well looking at these two teams, especially now when
when Vlade is really hot, Remember this is the kind
of a guy that can carry the team for two weeks,
two three weeks at a time when he's hot, and
that's where he is right now.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
That's not a thing. Number one.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Number two is toronto best record I believe in the
American League at home? Yes they were and it wasn't
even close. Fifty four and twenty seven at home. And
Seattle was a really good team at home as well,
fifty one and thirty both at plus fifty win seasons
at home. So both the teams are good, Toronto a
little bit better. I would look at this thing right

(26:21):
now and say Toronto would be the team that I
probably wouldn't want to play as much. If I could
pick one of the two, I would choose Seattle for
the travel, for the fact that the Dodgers are going
to have home field advantage as well. The Dodgers are
much better team at home than on the road. So
for those reasons, it's pretty simple. I'd rather go with
the Mariners than have to go and play Toronto.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I don't want anything to do with Rogers Center right now.
I want nothing to do with that crowd. And when
they were a rocket last night, it's like it was
like an avalanche on Yes, the Seattle Maritors.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
It was subundating. Yeah, it's like it's like thunder there
and it just has a way of is building throughout
the game. You have this this gigantic, you know, crescendo
that comes towards the end of the game, especially if
it's a close game and they're able to get some
some kind of you know, rally going.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
The thing gets.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Really really raucous in there, and not a good place
to play if you're in the opposition.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
No, I mean, I look at the Seattle lineup with
Julio Rodriguez and Cal Raley, and you know they went
out there and got Suarez to play third base, and
you know, at one point he was leading baseball and
home runs. They got all this power and it's been
neutralized in these games that the Blue Jays have come
back and won. And I look at the roster, I
mean the lineup. I mean Barger, what he's doing at

(27:38):
the bottom of the lineup for the Toronto Blue Jays.
You know, George Springer went over four last night, and
still the middle of the lineup with Clement and varshow
and you know vlad Guerrero and and Menez at the
bottom of these guys just produce and they get on base,
and they just they when they get that lineup going,
and they have long innings and they get good pitching
like they did last night with you seven mean the crowd,

(28:01):
it's just it's a snowball effect and it can get
on you early there at the Rogers Center and next
thing you know, you're down for nothing in a second inning.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, their team, that builds a lot of momentum up
and the crowd's very much in it. You mentioned Barger,
you know he's he's having a pretty good postseason. And
how about Lucas, who's a regular journeyman throughout the minor leagues.
He's hit over three forty in postseason. But the guy
that I really look at that's been a big difference maker,
and they got him over here not for his bad
but boy, his defense is Ernie Clement And this guy

(28:31):
is one of the toughest outs on this team. He's
hitting almost five hundred postseason. He's not gonna really hit
you a lot of home runs, but this guy is
like a Tommy Edmond. Plus he's just doing an unbelievable
job for this team. So they've got guys that you
wouldn't expect besides Vlade and Springer, et cetera, to come
up and pick it up. And you know, they got

(28:54):
their catcher, Alejandro Kirk, who doesn't look like a baseball player,
but boy, you can hit. He's a really good player.
He's an All Star. They've got a very eclectic group
over there in Toronto that.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
Can hurt you.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
I love Kirk because he looks like he should be
catching in a Sunday Beer League game in the Valley
rather than good player Game six and seven of the
Alcs like he's been doing. And yeah, he's a fun
guy to watch.

Speaker 6 (29:18):
Man.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yes, Vlad Guerrero is so scary. It's he comes after
his dad.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
I mean, I don't know that he's as good as
his dad, but he's certainly putting up a lot of
numbers he's been he's you know, most most notably, he's
been dealing with a lot of things in his weight
early in his career, having to fight that. I think
he's got that under control. He looks good to me.
He's certainly putting up numbers. He's sitting four sixty two
in postseason right now. He's driving the baseball. He's not

(29:45):
just a guy that's gonna go put up average numbers.
I mean batting average numbers. This guy across the spectrum.
You talked about his ops over fifteen hundred. He's sitting
the ball out of the ballpark like he's supposed to.
But he's also an extremely tough and he moves along
the lineup.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
And just think, this is a Toronto Blue Jays lineup.
If they were to advance, couldn't be adding bobashed back
to their lineup. He hasn't play, he's been out with
his sprain knee, and you think about what he's done.
I had to look it up because I was like, man,
this guy was one of the hottest players in baseball.
In fact, he was one of the.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
Hits leaders throughout the American League.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yes, yeah, last forty six games of the regular season,
he hit three seventy with a nine to eighty nine ops,
six home runs, forty one ribies and a four to
twenty three on base percentage. He goes down and they're
still winning here in October, and there's rumor that he
could be good enough to go if they get to
the World Series. So that's scary to think.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Well, you have to think about too, all that time
off for him, how effective he will be he might be.
I mean, these young guy he could pick that thing,
maybe pick that right up. So this is a team
that's stacked. I mean you saw what you savage?

Speaker 5 (30:53):
Did you know?

Speaker 4 (30:54):
He has got just one of the nastiest split thing
or changeup, whatever that is he's throwing that just never
gets there. These guys know it's coming, they're sitting on it,
and they still can't hit it. He's just been devastating,
all right.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
So we agree we want the Seattle Mariners rather than
Toronto Blue Jays to come out of the American League.
Game one either way is going to be Friday Night's
go back out to the phone, Scott in Ontario. Thanks
for being patient, Scott on this Monday morning.

Speaker 9 (31:19):
What you got, Good morning, guys, Just wanted to talk
about how the Dodgers are not ruining baseball. Just reading
an article in Baseball America and the Dodgers have twenty
three players that I've gone through their system are actually

(31:42):
signed with the Dodgers and are on a playoff team
right now. That's not including all the other players that
have come through their system, either by trades or any
other ways, that are on other teams. So in my opinion,
the Dodgers are making baseball better by develop helping players,
by coaching players that come to them. It's it's just

(32:05):
I don't know how anyone could think they're ruining baseball.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Scott appreciate the phone call. Nate Irvine also been waiting
patiently on this Monday morning. What you got, Nate, Hey, I.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
Just wanted to lend some a historical perspective about what
show he is about and what he's doing in my
mount rush Moore, in my life in my sixty years
of add the Southern California Sports Watch, and there's the
Mountain Rushmore is Gretzky Tiger Woods and now show Hey

(32:38):
Tani and of course with an asterix, maybe Steve Sachs.
As you know, a position holder until we actually get
to see in number four. All right, So the and
why is it? Because these guys do things that you
could not have imagined before they did it. In other words,
what Gretzky did and I don't want to go into hockey,

(32:58):
but what Tiger Woods did. For instance, everyone knows that
Gretzky held all four majors at the same time, defended
all four at the same time. No one's ever done it.
No one's done it since no one did it before.
But what people also don't know is that while he
held all four, he was the scoring champion in all
four based on par and oh, you want to go

(33:21):
one more deep cut, Tiger held the largest margin of
victory in each of those four while he was defending. Soheyes,
three home runs were all in and of themselves legendary,
the first one because he became the first pitcher ever
regular postseason to lead off the game with the home run.

(33:43):
Oh and a little deeper cut. After striking out three,
he didn't strike out the side. Okay, he didn't strike
out the side, everyone is miss stating that. But he
struck out the three after letting the guy get on.
I think by walk right, and so then the second
home run, it was out of the stadium. In my life,
it was only Willie Stargell who hit that, and Steve

(34:05):
you remember when it was there were no cement concession
stand area behind that. It was just you hit it
over the roof and it was in the parking lot
and that's what it used to be, and show Hey
did that. So that's deep cut number two, historic home
run number two. And then the third one was for three.
Now we can start imagining stuff because there's no possibility

(34:29):
that Show Hey can't do it. Okay, how about this.
He pitches a perfect game in Game seven of the
World Series and hits for the cycle. Why is that
not possible? It's definitely possible now because he's going to
become the first pitcher who's such a slugger to do
it in the World Series. He's going to have the

(34:49):
first opportunity. Now, I guess it was Babe Ruth was
the last one who did it. But you know, it's
a totally.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Different, different time, Nate. I appreciate the fone call. I mean,
let's be real, there's no way he's throwing a perfect
game in hitting for the cycle in Game seven of
the World Series. If that were to happen, I quit,
I'm done. I'm never coming back again. No, I mean
because that would be the greatest thing we've ever seen
in the history of professional sports in the entirety of
this world ye before during and Abbotts, that's that's unbelievable,

(35:19):
but would certainly not be out of the realm of
possibility for sho Heyo Tani since he is not from
this planet. Eight sixty six nine eighty seven two five
seventy more of your phone calls coming back and a
final sweep as we play the waiting game. Who with
the Dodgers face in Game one of the World Series
on Friday night? Will find out together tonight from Toronto
Blue Jays and the Seattle Mariners, who you're rooting for.

(35:41):
Who's a better matchup? Who would you rather see Pike's
place for the Maple bar in Toronto. Eight six six
nine eighty seven two five seven Easteve Sax, I'm Tim Kates.
It's Sax and Kate's and the AM on this Saurday morning. Scam,

(36:06):
Sax and Kate's and AM on this beautiful Monday morning
here in southern California. The sun is out, the sky
is blue, not a cloud in the sky on this Monday,
as you make your way to work, heading in that commute,
sitting in traffic, taking the kids to school, whatever you're
doing on this Monday morning, we appreciate you being with us.

(36:28):
I know you got a lot of options out there,
so we certainly appreciate you taking this with you on
the drive as you make your way through southern California
on this Monday. The Dodgers awaiting now the winner of
the Blue Jays and the Seattle Mariners that is coming
up tonights from the Rogers Center in a Game seven
winner moves on to face the big, bad, ugly Los

(36:48):
Angeles Dodgers, the team that is ruining baseball.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Steve Sacks wrecking baseball, that's right, just with a big,
gigantic cement, reckon ball, right, just just crushing it. Yeah,
because they like to win, because they're they're doing something
that the objective exactly.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
I thought, you know, you're supposed to do whatever again
to win. I think that. I think that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
I mean, it's just like no other team can think
of this, Like, you know, we're gonna have this game plan,
We're gonna go out and do this. We're gonna scout
this way, We're gonna draft this way, We're gonna sign
players this way. We're gonna keep our guys in house
and sign them to deals. I mean, this is you
look at the future, and and I don't want to
look too far ahead, but I mean, Paul Schemes is
a guy Kyle Tucker's already been talked about as a
future Dodger. Where's this is something that's gonna be interesting

(37:35):
moving forward? Is the whole Paul Skiings. Can he survive
in Pittsburgh? You got an opportunity to build this guy
and have him as your franchise pitcher for decades. You
got to build around him. If you're not gonna build
around him, he's gonna mandage. Is he gonna demand a trade?
He's gonna be demand something to get out of Pittsburgh. This,
to me is the next test for Major League Baseball
is how they handle Paul Skins in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Oh yeah, I mean, I mean, this guy is an
elite pitcher, maybe maybe the best out there, and so
they have an opportunity to make it good. I mean, yeah,
it all starts with pitching. You either got the perfect
guy right there in their own house. I start there, Tim,
if i'm then and then I work out from there.
But this is this is the kind of guy you
build around, no question.

Speaker 6 (38:15):
Yeah, I just I.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Assume they can keep him. I'm assuming they can pay
him whatever he wants. The problem is, if you're a
team like Pittsburgh, you cannot build around him, probably in
the same fashion that the Dodgers or the Mets, or
the Yankees or the Cubs or the Giants can or
can they. I mean, they got a money, they got
a stadium that's beautiful, they got a fan base there.
If you win, you're gonna put more butts in the seats.

(38:37):
If you're competitive in your division and give yourself a
chance to win the division, the team's gonna bring in
more revenue. More revenue means more spending on players.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
That's all true.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
And the way I look at it to Tim, I
look at it in the very obvious way on his face.
Some teams have more resources than other teams.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
That's fine.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Okay, that's fine, but what I also know. What I
also know is it's not all about out money that wins.
I mean, look at the examples we say it time
after time. Plenty of teams out there spend boatloads of
money and they don't get very far.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
And so there's those other elements that really count.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
No doubt about it. Steve, great stuff this morning. We
got a lot of conversation this morning that we got
into looking forward to in the next couple of days,
and tomorrow we'll dive deep into who the Dodgers are
facing in this World Series matchup that begins on Monday
or a Friday night, either Dodger Stadium or in Toronto.
So can't wait for a buddy great show today. We'll
talk to you tomorrow. Good job, Tim talking tomorrow. All right,

(39:34):
there he goes Steve Sas. Thanks to Michelle, Thanks though
you Dodger fans for being a part of the show.
Colin Cowhard coming up next, Rogan and Rodney add three
Petro Some Money begin at They're at New and Petro
Some Money begin at three o'clock. This afternoon, We'll got
a little Monday night football for you. There's a double
hitter tonight in the NFL to wrap up the week.
We got Texans and Seahawks at seven o'clock. I'm next,

(39:57):
it's the Herd with Colin Coward
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