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Speaker 1 (00:01):
They say, the hardest thing in sports isn't winning a title.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's hard to repeat seasons.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
It's winning it again.
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This year is not trying to win a championship, They're
trying to repeat.
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It's October baseball for your world champion in La Dodger.
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The twenty twenty five Dodgers are the National League's Western
Division champions.
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And you know what that means.
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Saxon Kates and AM is back.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
This is Saxon Kates in the Morning with Tim Kates
and former World champion Dodger Steve Sacks.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Reacting, taking your phone calls talking Dodgers playoff baseball all
postseason long.
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Now here they are on AM five to seventy LA
Sports and the iHeartRadio app.
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Steve Sacks, Tim Kats, Tim Kates.
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And World Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.
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Oh, the fault Classic is said. The Dodgers West for
a repeat will have to go north to the border Toronto, Canada,
as the Dodgers will take on the Blue Jays, who
would make their first World Series since nineteen ninety three.
And it'll all began on Friday right here on A
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five to seventy LA Sports. Tims Kates, Steve Sacks, and
you on this Tuesday morning, as the Blue Jays punched
their ticket with a Game seven win last night over
the Seattle Mariners. I feel for the Pacific Northwest as
they were nine outs away from going to their first ever,
first ever World Series and they get it snatched by
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cheating George Springer and his three run home run in
the seventh inning. And I say that because he was
a member of the twenty seventeen Houston Astros, who again
cheated their way to a World Series championship in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I thought they had it when the big number went deep. Man,
they took a three to one league put them up
three to one, right, Yeah, yeah, But wasn't wasn't meant
to be.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
No, And again there is a lot of questioning up
in Seattle about the way that game was managed down
the stretch and who they didn't go to as far
as their big time, high leverage reliever and closer, one
of the best in baseball and munos. Instead, they elect
to go to another arm that's well George Springer had
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seen the night before and take some deep in Game
seven of the ALCS And so we'll have a matchup
of two organization. Steve sachs that this time we can't
sit here and call one the average Joes. We can't
call in the other one just a blue collar, hard
working city team with a bunch of scrappy players. No,
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this is the Dodgers against the Blue Jays, and we
are being just thrown at us the economics of baseball,
and Jerry Royce is going to join us at about twenty minutes.
But the La Times today a big article. MLB owners
say lopsided spending is a serious problem. What does the
union say, Well, in the last four days, all we've
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heard about is the Dodgers are ruining baseball. The Dodgers
spend too much, and the Dodgers do this, and the
Dodgers overpay, and the Dodgers just throw money at players
to bring him to LA they're buying the championship. Well,
look at the Toronto Blue Jays, top five in baseball
in salaries. They've got a five hundred million dollar player
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on their team in Vlad Guerrero. They've got four guys
making over twenty million dollars a season. This isn't a
low pay roll, small market little team. That's just a
feel good story that the baseball world will be rooting
for in this Fall Classic. This is a big time
high pain Toronto Blue Jays roster with a lot of
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talent they brought in in free agency, George Springer cheating
George being one of them that is going up against
the Dodgers. So we can't have this argument for the
next seven games potentially of well, small market versus big
market Canada versus US. These are two teams that spend
a lot of money and should be here.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, that's a non issue. Nobody's buying it. They both
spend money, they're they're both really good teams. You've got
Canada versus a US. And maybe it's fitting it this
way because we're going to see arguably the two best teams,
the really the two best teams talent wise and all
the way through when you look at different aspects of
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this game, all the all the metrics say that these
are probably the two best teams. So we're going to
find out and we'll see how they play together. That's
the issue of who's going to be the best team,
Not the most talent, but the best team. And if
the Dodgers play together well like they always do. Especially
this year, they're going to uh, they're going to slaughter
these guys. They're just hey, look, you can parse out
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position for position, who's got most talent, who makes more money,
it doesn't matter. It's it's who's willing to play together
better is what's going to decide this thing.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
In the Toronto Blue Jays. Just to put in perspective
for those thinking, oh, look small Toronto, they're not paying
a lot of guys there. The Blue Jays are fifth
in total payroll this season in Baseball two hundred and
fifty five million dollars. Vlad Guerrero just signed a five
hundred million dollar, fourteen year deal this past season. Through
the last five years, they have ranked between ninth and
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twelfth in total payroll in all of Major League Baseball.
They spend They tried to get showay Otani two offseasons
ago through a lot of money out there. There was
a lot of talk that he was even going to
go sign with the Toronto Blue Jays. There was a
report that he was on a plane leaving John Wayne
Airport and heading to Toronto. Proved out not to be
the case. But this is a talk now in baseball
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of the economics, Steve, and it's being shoved at us,
whether it's right or wrong, by the writers, by the media,
about baseball and the economics, and this is bad and
this team is bad, and this is not good and
we're destined for a lockout. I don't want to hear
that anymore. Not right now. We have all offseason to
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whine about the game of baseball, if you will, or
complain about how things aren't fair for some markets. And
it's destined for a lockout, and it's going to be
a long, prolonged lockout in baseball in twenty two days.
Worry about that later. Let's enjoy this World Series. And
I don't think the fans. I don't think the fans
care about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
We have another year, tim right.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
I don't think the fans care, though about the economics
of baseball. I don't think they care about whether or
not the Dodgers are the most spinning team in baseball,
the third best spinning team in baseball, whether the Toronto
is top five this year, how much vlag Guerrero is
getting paid. Between the lines and baseball, that's what they
want to see as a good product and entertaining product.
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And if you're a Dodger fan. You want to see
a winning product, certainly on the field, and we're seeing that.
And I don't want the economics of the game to
be shoved down my throat anymore during this postseason. Well,
we can get into that for three months. We could
talk about it all season long next year about this
is it? The lockout's coming in twenty twenty seven. The
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Dodgers are the reason why whatever, That's not even the case.
But I don't think fans care about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Hey, listen, even if you say that the dot it's bad.
If they spend a lot of money, at least they're
getting there getting some return on it. Right, How do
you think Steve Cohen's feeling exactly? There you go, exactly
not getting any return on it. Didn't even make the
postseason in New York and he gave a guy seven
hundred and sixty five million dollars, Yeah, and won Soto.
That guy. They paid that guy twice as much as
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Aaron Judge. Who do you think is a better player
Aaron Judge? I mean, I wouldn't even answer that or dignified.
I'd laugh at it. That's not even close. Who's a
better player, it's it's it's miles and it's it's universe.
Is the part who's a better player. It's not even close. Okay, Yeah,
and they paid double for that guy. Okay. I mean,
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if Steve Cohen wants to do that, that's up to him.
It's his money. He can spend it. This is capitalism.
He can spend it any way he wants. But if
he's gonna give you know, Juan Soto, the guy that
can't run from home to first because it's too far,
or or run hard anyway, you're gonna give him seven
hundred and sixty million bucks. And and you know Aaron
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Judge is like three sixty. You're gonna give that a
four hundred million dollars more than Aaron. Go ahead and
believe me, there's no return on it there, right, none? Right.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
I think the only fans that do care about the
economics are those fans who you're just alluded to in
New York, the Mets fans who are are wondering, why
didn't we get a return on the investment. Certainly Steve
Cohen wondering that because he's the one paying for it.
But in the Padres in San Diego, what the heck happened?
We spend all this money, We're supposed to be winners,
we're supposed to be contenders, and we're not even going
to a World Series yet again. But I think, for
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what we see right now in these two teams, can
we just put the economics of baseball aside? Can we
just put this whole narrative aside? I mean, at least
now that we have a series that is two tea
tea that if you want to bring up economics, okay,
let's bring it up. They spend a lot of money,
both teams, and they've gotten to this point because they've
got talent, and they've taken care of their talent, and
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they brought in talent, and they've paid for the talent,
and they've built a really good roster, and they got
really good managers, and they got really good GMS, and
they got good farm systems, and they spelled well. Talent
absolutely too. Absolutely, they've developed talent. So these are two
teams that, yes, spend a lot of money, but have
done it the right way and have been successful doing
it and put together winning rosters. Unlike the New York
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Mets and some of these other teams like the San
Diego Padres. If this were small markets, I don't know Milwaukee,
Kansas City, even you know, Sittsburg, Pittsburgh that made a
run and here we are, you know, just shucks, glad
to be here. Okay, let's have the economic question. But
we got two teams that have done it the way
they've done it, and now they're playing for a World Series.
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I don't want to hear this economic talk. I don't
want to see things written anymore about good for baseball,
bad for baseball, the big empire out West. Uh, they
ruined this sport.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
No stop.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
I don't want to hear it right now.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, Tim, do you have an opinion on this?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah, just a little bit of an opinion on this.
I'm just tired of every you go to, every dot
com you go to, having blog it's about the baseball
and and the economics of it.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I'm so I'm I'm gonna put myself because you you've
you've actually coerced me into putting myself in the fan
of in the shoes of the fan. I'm going to
the park. I get myself a hot dog. If you're
a Dodger's name is a Dodger dog, A soda, maybe
a pretzel, and I'm sitting in the basking in the sunlight.
You know, another great great place to watch a game
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would be Chicago and Wrigley Field on a nice day.
You got yourself a beverage and a and a and
a hot dog slathered with mustard. You're sitting in the sunlight,
You're watching the game. That's what you want to That's
what that's a perspective you want instead of Oh, they're
spending this, they're spending that. It just gets to be
a bit of a heavy to take of that around
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everywhere and worry about the economics of the game. I
want to I want a hot dog slathered and mustard. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Well, if you want a hot dog slathered and mustard
and you want to go to a World Series game,
get your credit card out or keep listening to A
five seven Ela sports is. We will have World Series
tickets to give away on this station during this World
Series run. So again, we are your home of the Dodgers,
We're your home of the World Series, and we'll have
tickets to the World Series coming up here on an
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FI seven e LA Sports. If you want a hot
hot dogging to coke you're looking at seven to fIF
you're looking at about sixteen bucks dog and a coke.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, yeah, a buck and a half if that.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
But if you just to get into Dodger Stadium, yeah,
we got get in price to a Dodger game at
the World.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Series SAM sitting loads level.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Well you don't, you want to know the loads price.
Let's go, let's go, let's go higher, let's go reserve level,
upper corner by the foul pole.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Well, so you're barely in the park, right, you're up there,
you got your binoculars.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
You're in the park. You're enjoying Dodger baseball on a
on a nighttime game in the World Series. Oh, in
the World Series game, World Series game.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
No, I'm talking regular season, a regular season game.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
You can get it for like twenty bucks, thirty bucks. Okay, yeah, no,
I'm not bad at all. But World Series Game, World
Series game, eight hundred and sixty five bucks for a
come on, eight hundred and sixty five sixty How much
tickets are going for right now in Toronto to go
to games one or two of the World Series one
or two.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
This is the.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Secondary market now for the for the Toronto because the
games are sold out.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Okay, where's the seat top deck, top deck at Roger Center,
top deck, down the line, down the third base or
first base line.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Okay, towards the toppul get in prices over one thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Come on? Is that us?
Speaker 5 (12:48):
That's US dollars?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
So if we are going to talk economics, let's talk
about the prices of games for the World Series and
the get in price. Whether it's phase value or on
the secondary mark. You are paying a pretty penny to
get into these World Series games. It's gonna cost you.
It's gonna cost you, all right, go out to the phone. Yeah,
Michael downtown, lash for being patient? I do, Michael.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
How you doing? My friends listening to all good talk,
the Steve Sachs always saying really good stuff, you know.
The Toronto Blue Jays. First off, the funniest call was
last week. If you remember a guy saying that we
should bench o Tani. You remember it's even posted as
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the funniest phone call ever. Anyway, so the Blue Jays
is representing the whole country at Canada. This is a
really interesting true world series. The country of Canada loves
this team. They're dying for this world series. They do
have two. If you do remember that Raptors Warriors. She
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brought it up. The Warriors were huge favorites and the
Raptors representing Canada took it not even in seven and six.
This is a serious world series. We have serious players.
This is gonna I still think the Dodgers are gonna
end up on top. I know Vegas has them.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
As a sweep.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
You know, so there's no money to make on the
World Series with the Dodgers. There's money to make with Toronto.
But so all the experts are saying the Dodgers are
gonna get through. But you know, look, I think the
Dodgers are gonna win. But this is gonna be really fun.
This is gonna be the funnest world series I've seen
in a long time. You're talking to big market teams
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real quick on those comments. Yeah, you pay the players.
You still gotta win on the field. As you guys
were saying, there is you can look at it both ways.
You can look at it as well. They're paying the
most money. Just like in anything when you pay a
lot of money. I just bought a Hummer, it's always
the nicest car and the lot you know, like you
pay for what you get, and so the Dodgers pay
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a lot of money and they still have to win
on the field. So you know, you give them the
credit on win in on the field, but you do
have to acknowledge that they pay the most money. Otani,
you go down. Now, here's the other thing. The Dodgers
this year are all healthy, but Chef's gonna play for Toronto.
They're missing Barrios, they're missing Santander. The Dodgers are going
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in with all their money at the right places at
the right times. This is really interesting. They've won nine
out of ten. It doesn't mean they're gonna win all
these games coming up, but they're hot, their money's going.
It is like the highest time right now. If you
look in last year with the Daughters, their rotation was
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all messed up coming in. They put it together for
these three weeks and won the World Series. Bueller was
struggling and Bueller ended up pitching all right. When you
get that small sample size, like when you were bringing
up Scott. Look, he's a lefty who plows ninety eight
miles per Hour's his whole career.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
He's been great.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
If I trust him here in September or October in
the seven game series. Michael and I appreciate the phone call.
He brought a lot of great points, and yeah, Blue
Jay's a little banged up. The Dodgers are healthy. On paper,
it's a Dodger sweep according to the odds makers in Vegas.
We'll find out, though. It's gonna be a hard fought series.
If you're expecting to sweep, you're crazy. Not gonna happen,
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Not gonna happen. No, this Toronto team, with home field,
the Rogers Center, sold out, crowd play is gonna be
rocking for Games one and two. Let's just hope it
doesn't go back for Game six and seven. He is
Steve Sacks. I'm Tim Kates coming up. Jerry Royce, former
Dodger great eight years. We're in a Dodger uniform. We'll
get his thoughts on this series. We'll get his thoughts.
Showy Otani, this Dodger pitching staff, everything with the great
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Jerry Royce. Next right here on Anti seventy I Sports,
Sax and Kate's in the AM five seventy LA Sports.
You're a home of the Dodgers. As the postseason run continues.
Now know their opponent. Game One of the World Series
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Friday night at the Rogers Center north of the border
in Toronto, Canada, as the Dodgers will take on Vlat
Guerrero and the Toronto Blue Jays. Of course, we'll have
you cover with Walda Wall coverage. David Vasse, our Dodger insider,
will be with the team. Embedded with the Dodgers as
they make their way up to Toronto workouts on Thursday
and get ready for Game one, five eight first pitch
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right here on a five to seventy l A Sports.
All right, Saxy, joining us now one of your former teammates.
Twenty two years in the big leagues. He was with
the Dodgers, winning two a two time All Star, a
World Series champion nineteen eighty one, a no hitter with
the Dodgers in nineteen eighty. Broadcaster as well, the Great,
the Great Jerry Royce joints us here on a FI
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seventy LA sports. Jerry, Good morning, How you doing, sir?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I'm doing all right? Hi, Tim, Hi, Steven.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Hi, Jerry.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
We appreciate you coming on this morning, Jerry. And another
postseason run for the Dodgers this year better than last.
Year's you kind of seen what this Dodgers team here
has done this October. Starting pitching has been on points
unlike a year ago, or the bullpen carried this Dodgers team.
This starting pitching, this big four they have. How impressed
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are you with what you've seen from these guys?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Well, it's probably about as good as you're going to
see in baseball today. Now, what's interesting about this is
how that pitching staff came together towards the end of
the regular season and got themselves built up to the
point because a few of them were on the disabled
list earlier in the year, to the point to where
they can go beyond the sixth mandatory innings prescribed by
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most other teams. Now it's seven, perhaps eight, and then
we even saw a complete game. So what we're seeing
right now is perhaps a resurgence in starting pitching, and
it's working for the Dodgers so far in this postseason.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Jerry, last year, this team was nothing like this as
far as the starting pitching goes. It was all really
depending on what that bullpen can bring, and they were
able to bring a World championship here. Now, if you're
on Toronto squad and you're looking across the diamond and
you see the Dodgers with five number ones. If you
want to put Sasaki in that group. I mean, this
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team is so well stacked. I like the old flare
of letting the starters carry the mail. I mean, this
is the way the game was developed. I think that's
the most productive way, and it's the shortest way to
win a World Series. What say you?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
You know, I have to agree with what you're saying.
But what I like about it is the fact that
they went out last year and got the best starting
pitching available, and of course with that come a lot
of risk. We saw that during April May and some
of it even into June. But right now they're running
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on full and I just want to see how they
stack up come Friday night.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Jerry Royce with us here on am FI seventy LA Sports.
This Dodger rotation. You know they they planned this out, Jerry.
We heard from Dave Roberts earlier, and you know, this
isn't just a fluke thing. This isn't just luck that
all of a sudden their four starters are healthy and
good to go and don't have a lot of tread
on those tiress So to speak here in October. They wait,
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They game plan and laid out showy Otani. If you
were pitching and they came to you and said, all right,
this is the plan for October. We want to kind
of hold you back. He even referenced the movie Braveheart Dave
Roberts did and said, you know, hold, mel Gibson's telling
all these guys hold hold, kind of temper it down
a little bit. And that's what they did with their
starting pitchers this year, even if they were coming back
from an injury. They slow played it with the goal
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in mind, Jerry, that have October all of these guys healthy.
If you were pitching. Is that something that they said
to you, all right, Jerry, hold hold, let's not worry
about one sixty two, it's all about October. Is that
something you could have done well.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I would have had to do it had have been
pitching today, because they're the ones that are running the show.
I think it's not quite as simple as you stated, Tim,
Although what you're saying is pretty good idea. But when
you have guys that are hurt, you bring them back
slowly so that they can be ready in the event
that you take the postseason to the very end. I think,
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in my opinion that they would have preferred to have
that same starting pitching go from start to finish, but
it just didn't happen that way. But they did develop
a plan, and it seems like a lot of people
were involved in the decision as to how to go
about doing it, and the way they saw the chips fall,
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they said, let's go ahead, get these guys back, have
them ready for August and September, and then if we
are able to get into the postseason and have them
at full strength. You know, sometimes you make plans like
that and they fall into place, which is exactly what
happened for the Dodgers this year.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Jerry, your career spanned over you pitched in four different decades,
and just from playing behind you, I mean, you had
like the most wicked fastball. I think I've ever seen
that thing moved like a snake on a griddle. That
thing moves so much. You know, taking into consideration the
evolution of the game going way back and going forward now,
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how they just try to hit a lot of home runs.
Strikeouts aren't an issue. Would you have to change the
way that you pitched, or would you just do what
you normally had done and been even more of a
strikeout pitcher.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
You know, that's a tough question to answer because I've
tried to place myself into the mindset of today's game. Remember,
you and I both played at a time when the
mindset was different for a starting pitcher. Even though you
were an infielder, you were on the pitchers all the time,
and the whole idea was to get through the game.
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You pitched nine, you were out there for twenty seven outs,
and you took it one at a time. Today, that's
not necessarily the focus. I don't know what I would
have done, how I would have handled it, but just
one thing, and I'm going to go on a tangent
a little bit here. I see the velocities that guys
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are throwing, and I'm seeing on a regular basis, everybody
that comes in there posts ninety plus and ninety five
to ninety eight is on a regular basis, you know, Stephen.
What I'd like to see is that same radar gun
used back in the days that we played in the
seventies and in the eighties, and I would like to
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see what Nolan Ryan would have posted on that. In
my opinion him along with JR. Richard in the National League.
I didn't see the American League that much. They would
have burned that radar gun, because they would have it
would have been somewhere up above one hundred. There's no
question in my mind.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Jerry, I saw makeup a mockup of Nolan Ryan, and
they tested it coming out of the hand like they
do today, not going across the plate, and it was
somewhere between one oh six and one oh nine. Oh yeah,
and nobody throws close to that hard today. And but
that's what it's that's what it showed. So there you
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have it. I've been down on the pit since bring training, Jerry,
I don't see any difference. I think overall they throw
harder today. I think if you had to get every
player and put it in there, I think there's a
little bit, a little little fudge more on this side,
but not not dragted. There's not like one, you know,
one oh four and then everybody else is throlling ninety.
That is not true. That is not the case.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Well, it's a transition of baseball, and baseball grows, uh,
it seems on a daily basis into something that goes
further from the type of game that we play back then.
Was our game better? I don't know. I guess in
some ways yes, and in some ways no. But this
is what you have today. You have the velocity, and
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you have the hitters that are trying to turn that
velocity around and convert it into one swing of the
bat runs produced. So to me, it's just a different
kind of game. I enjoy it just as much. It's
just different.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Jerry Royce with us here on AMPI seventy LA Sports.
I'm curious, Jerry, have you ever gotten payback on Steve
Sacks for the shaving cream pie during the live TV
interview way back when? Is Steve still head on a
swivel wondering if you're gonna get him one day or
did you ever get him back?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
He got me many times?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Well, yeah, that's probably true. I got you many times.
But in that particular instance, you got me. Boy, was
it good? You nailed me? All I could do was
laugh and try to keep a straight face while I'm
doing the interview. I remember wiping the shaving cream from
my eyes and mouth and answering the question, which I
thought was pretty good. But if I remember this correctly.
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I never did anything to you after that, And after
about a week, maybe ten days, you finally came up
to me, put your arm around me, and say, please
get me now so I can stop worrying about this
and move on with my life.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I wanted to move on to a life, and Tim,
I wanted to tell you, in all my all your
great listeners out there, Tim, that Jerry Royce was by far,
maybe the best one of the definitely one of the
best teammates anybody could ever have. I think he made
me feel really relaxed. I remember one time in a
Sunday day game I was. It was in Saint Louis.
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It was a nationally televised game, my first one. Jerry called.
He he called me over from second base, was right
in the middle of the game, and I'm thinking, pictures
like him of his stature, don't like guys like me
going to the mound. I mean, if I went up there,
he'd just say get the hell out of here, you know,
and I would understand that. But he says, come over here,
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and I said, what is this? So I go up
to the mound for no reason and Jerry tells me,
he says, how's it going on here? What I'm gonna thinking?
What's going on? He says, I just want you to
get a little extra TV time. I know your family's
probably watching. Now get your ass back to second base.
And and he did that for me. I mean it
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was it was amazing that how how relaxed he made
you feel. And uh, definitely one of the greatest teammates ever.
Just amazing. And I must say this too before I
shut up. Is the time when Jerry dressed up in
the grounds crew on the last day of the season,
because he obviously wasn't pitching that day, dressed up in
the ground screw and was dragging the infield under you
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know under you know the guys of just being a
ground screw guy. Nobody noticed it till till later on
in the drag, but but he whatever, he was dragging
the infield on the jumbo tron.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
You know, that's very kind to you to say, I'm
just glad you didn't say that I was in dragging
the infide.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
No, that's not what I meant, But Tim, you know
what I mean. It was the greatest. I had such
a great time with him.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Jerry, how important was that for you to keep things loose.
To have a good time with your teammates during the
grind of one hundred and sixty two game season.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Well, it's a marathon, it's not a sprint, and they're
just sometimes that the focus is on the game, and
you have a sense about the people that are playing
behind you. And if I sensed that something was a
bit awry, I wanted to put everybody at ease, because
to have everybody relax meant to me that they were
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playing better. And if I got the best possible production
out of the guys behind me, it meant that we
were off the field as a defensive unit and went
in as an offensive unit. And anytime that your team
is on offense more than they are in defense, a
lot of good things are going to happen.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
That's truth. And Jerry, look, I look at your career
and your stats. Twenty two years that you went up
there and was just hurling your your tail off. One
of the years you pitched two hundred and seventy nine innings,
it was right in the middle of several years of
way over two hundred innings. I mean, it had to
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be eight or nine years of two hundred innings plus.
I mean that's double the workload that a lot of
pitchers do today. They get a hundred innings and the
light starts blinking. All right, they're ready to come off, Jerry.
What's the difference. Is the evolution of the arm or
is it the de evolution of the arm taking place?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Or what is it?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
How were you able to pitch twice as much as
people today?
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Well, fortunately I was blessed the Good Lord, it seems
when I was born tapped me on the left shoulder,
looked me in the eye and said, you'll figure it out.
And I was able to progress from a kid through
Little League, through high school, American Legion, the minor leagues,
and be fortunate to be one of the one in
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a million that actually made it to the big leagues.
And then once I got there, I made a lot
of decisions, many of them good, some of them not
so good. But I was able to last for twenty
two different seasons, So that's a lot of it. The
other thing is that I did the work that was involved,
and that's how you get to the big leagues, that's
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how you stay there. You did it yourself. How many
hours did you put in during spring training with Lesorda
throwing batting practice and also getting you a number of
ground balls that only made you a better player, both
offensively and defensively. That's what it takes to last that long.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Well well, Jered, we appreciate you joining us. It's become
an annual now that the Dodgers are continually back into
the postseason in October. Really appreciate you jumping on this morning,
and hopefully the Dodgers have four more wins than them
and then get another World Series championship. Here to the
city Los Angeles. Thanks for doing it.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Well, Tim, Thanks for having me. Steven. Always great to
hear from you. I hope you're feeling better after that
surgery earlier this year.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Jerry like it. I'm doing great, Jerry. I got no
restrictions and everything is full speed ahead. Feel great. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Well, there you go. I'll tell you what. Let's enjoy
the World Series and perhaps next year we can repeat
and we'll talk about this same time, same time of year.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Sounds good.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Thanks a lot, Jerry, Thank you, Jerry.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Okay, guys, all right, there.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
He goes the great Jerry Royce. Twenty two years he pitched.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
One of my favorite teammates.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Tim, Yeah, how long did you have that head on
this wivel even though he told you it's okay after
that shaving cream pie to the face there when he
was doing a TV interview I think postgame back when
he said he was going to get you and he
never did. But how long were you a guy always
looking around looking for Jerry Royce?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Every day? Every day I went in the locker room.
I finally I just went up to him and I said, look, hey,
can we just call a truce or just get me
right now because I want to concentrate on this other stuff.
You're you know, I know the reputation. I've seen it,
and you don't want to be in that in that
web right there when you got one coming from Jerry Royce.
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But I'll tell you what, he was just such a
great guy to have on the team. You know, he
has a very serious side to him too. You know,
you see the fun loving guy. But boy, I'll tell
you what. One time when I got hit by a pitch.
We were in Saint Louis, oddly where Jerry grew up.
I got hit by a pitch in the first inning,
and you know, the side was retired and I'm getting
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ready to go out there for defense. Jerry's glove just
happened to be right next to me where I was
sitting on the benches. We're getting ready to go out
to the bottom of the first Remember I just get
been hit. So Jerry Royce comes to pick up his glove.
He looks at me and he winks and he goes out.
What do you think he did with the first first hitter?
Drilled him, freaking drilled him right in the ribs. Love it.
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And that's what he was like. He was a dogged
competitor and boy, if you mess with anybody on his team,
he'd take care of it. And that's a great thing
about baseball being able to police itself. And back then
it was all good. There was no fight in the game.
You know, the Cardinals knew what was coming. They hit me,
so our guy Jerry Royce is going to hit them,
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and he did and it was over.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
It's part of baseball, part of baseball.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Love it.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Thanks to Jerry for popp and I we'll come back.
We'll wrap things up here on Saxon Kate to the
am as we are one day closer to Game one
of the World Series, and it's set YEP Dodgers in
the Toronto Blue Jays Game one Friday night from the
Rogers Center in Toronto, Canada. As we'll come back, get
you more of your phone calls and hand things off
to Colin Cowhard Rodney noon to three, Petro some money
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three to seven. We got a special off night Dodger
Talk tonight from seven eight pm with the one and
only David Vassa, Steve Sacks, Tim Katson. You right here
on ANFI seventy LA Sports, Saxon Kates in the am
wrapping things up on this Tuesday morning. Is the World
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Series is set Dodgers Blue Jays, and it'll start north
of the border in Toronto on Friday night, Game one
from the Rogers Center, where last night the Blue Jays
celebrated a Game seven ALCS win over the Seattle Mariners
and the Dodgers now get ready for the best of seven,
winner takes all World Series, beginning right here on n
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FI seventy LA Sports on Friday night, first pitch at
five o eight pm. Mix to Jerry Royce for joining
us here. Got a special guest coming up on Thursday
show Already, Saxon, You're gonna love this as a football fan.
This gentleman is a fan of the Dodgers. Dodgers fan
rooting for the Dodgers now and very excited. On Thursday,
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we're going to talk to former Raiders quarterback Derek Carr.
Will be on the show a talk a little well
football and Derek and yeah talking man. Yep, he's a ekensling.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
That guy is a great athlete. He's a fan of Derek.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Carr, big Dodger fan as well. Saw him out at
Dodger Stadium during the summertime. He was out there with
his kids and enjoying the Dodger pregame, batting practice on
the field and watching the game there as well. So
he'll be joining us on Thursday, get his thoughts on
this World series and maybe talk a little silver and
Black and little football with him as well. He's got
a new podcast with his brother that he is doing,
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so new things he's doing post retirement now as he
has hung up the cleats and now got into doing
some broadcasting.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
So nice. He'll be really good at it, no question.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Yeah, absolutely, His brother does it for the NFL Network
and Derek started now and again big Dodgers fans, So
we'll check in with him coming up on a Thursday.
Game one starter most likely going to be Blake Snell.
Game two most likely Yoshi Noble Yamamoto. And keep in mind,
Dodger fans, the Dodgers did see the Toronto Blue Jays
three times at Dodger Stadium during the regular season, and
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the Dodgers won two of those three games. And we're
close to a three game sweep of the Toronto Blue Jays.
And that was a series in which Tyler glass Now
got to start, and we saw Clayton Kershaw get a
start and pitch really well in a victory over the
Toronto Blue Jays. I'm curious to see Steve what Clayton
Kershaw's role is going to be here in this World Series.
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Been very limited so far, not a great sample size
to worry to work with in the postseason here, but
he's on the roster. He'll be one of the left
handers available. I imagine we see him at some point.
I would tend to believe probably a Dodger Stadium in
one of those games three, four, and five against the
Toronto Blue Jays. But I wouldn't be shocked if we
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see Clayton Kershaw at some point in this World Series.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah, I think so too. Probably not as a starter.
I would think probably in Game three, four, five, they'll
keep what they've had so far that's been very successful
and only one loss so far in this whole whole postseason.
So I sound like a Canuck right there, right, a
bold season. I suppose they get that all the time, right,
I Mean, these guys hear that all the time about
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their about their accent. But look, I think we'll hear
or we'll see Clayton at some time. But I probably
don't think it's gonna happen as a starter.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Okay, Yeah, I don't think so either, unless they desperately
need them, you know, in a game five. But I
just don't see that happening.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
I see him more of coming out and eating out
innings and out for the Dodgers in a in a
middle part of the game, you know what I mean,
you know, to bridge the gap between a starter and
the back end of that bullpen.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
So yeah, probably that's where i'd probably see him fit in.
I'm glad that we've gone actually a whole you know,
a couple of days now and we haven't brought up
the uh the the slang of a You know, it
gets old when you're talking about people from Canada. Oh,
they say A you know what, because I played in Canada.
My first year in professional baseball is in Lethbridge, Alberta.
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And when I came home, how was Canada A? I said? Really?
I mean they they talk better than that, you know
what I mean. It's like, that's all you can say
is a come on, really?
Speaker 5 (38:20):
You know what Tim Hortons is in Canada. It's it's
a restaurant, right, the donuts, the donut donuts. Yeah, okay,
known for their donuts, and in particular in Canada, consistently
one of the most popular and top selling donuts in
all of Canada, and not just to Tim Hortons, but
in all of Canada is the apple fritter.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Oh wow, how about that. Great? You've had the apple fritter, right.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
I love an apple fretter, but easy. I've never had
Tim Hortons No, And I don't know if it's like
one of these like mustas when you go to Canada,
you got to try these Tim Horton's donuts because there's
so much different than you know, your local donut shop,
which you can go to anywhere and every stity's got
those spots. It doesn't have to be a chain, you
know place. But yeah, I mean donut is a donuts
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a donut in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Well, I think if I do happen to be in
studio to finish off the last week or the postseason,
yep in the World Series, will scam. Oh yeah, maybe
we can have somebody send in a fritter from Tim
Hortons in Canada. We can make for us.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
We could absolutely make that happen worst.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Day, the scam jersey to come or the scam shirt.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Still working on those, but we could definitely get some
donuts in here and and taste test Tim Hortons versus
La Donuts, which is of course Randy's Donuts will be
a good spot to get some in. Shout out to
you guys over Randy's Donuts. Would love to get some
donuts in with a little Dodger blue frosting on top.
That's good if you're Listening's call all right, Saxy, one
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more day closer to the Game one of this World Series.
We'll be back at it tomorrow. Davidvest will check in,
the Dodgers will work out today and I assume the
Dodgers probably gonna fly out tomorrow, get settled, work out
on Thursday, Media Day on Thursday for this World series,
and then back at it of course on Friday for Game.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
One, tomorrow being the penultimate day. Yes, before the game.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Let's go getting ready. There you go, Steve Sacks, Tim
Kaths thanks to Michelle Colin Coward coming on next