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October 28, 2025 43 mins
Steve Sax and Tim Cates take your calls, interact with the folks on Youtube and preview Game 4 of the World Series with Shohei Ohtani on the mound
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
They say, the hardest thing in sports isn't winning a title.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's hard to repeat seasons. It's winning it again this
Yearning is.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Not trying to win a championship, They're trying to repeat.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's October baseball for your world champion in La Dodger.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
The twenty twenty five Dodgers are the National League's Western
Division champions.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
And you know what that means.

Speaker 5 (00:22):
Saxon Kates and AM is back.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
This is Saxon Kates in the Morning with Tim Kates
and former World Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

Speaker 5 (00:31):
Reacting, taking your phone calls, talking Dodgers playoff baseball all
postseason long.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Now Here they are on AM five to seventy LA
Sports and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
Steve Sacks, Tim Kats.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Tim Kates and World Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
Oh, Rise and Shine Southern California. We are live and
local here in the City of Angels. The sun is out.
It's a blue sky and at Blue Heaven on Earth
Dodger Stadium. Last night, Freddie Freeman walked off the Toronto
Blue Jays in a game that took nearly seven hours

(01:11):
to finish, but the Dodgers prevail with a six to
five win over the Toronto Blue Jays. Tim Kats, two
times World Series Champion Rookie of the Year. You see
him out at Dodger Stadium wearing that glorious number three
throughout the First Bitch during the NLCS along with Mike Zoshia.

(01:32):
He loved Brad Paisley's rendition of the national anthem last
night out at Dodgers Stadium. He is the one and
only Steve sax Saxeon. We're having a lot of fun
on the air, but also having a lot of fun
with all our people online on x on Facebook and
on YouTube as we stream live this morning here on
Saxon kates at the am nearly eight hundred people online

(01:52):
just kind of watching, hanging out, and you were telling
some great stories about your adventures at the with baristas,
at a coffee.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
You know, going to ACE Hardware, Safe Way, whatever it
may be. Just I do I do want to talk
to sometime, you know, today a little bit. I'll be
really quick about you know the strike I threw, you know,
he was crackling off my fingertips and right the first pitch,
that's another story. First pitch, Yeah, well, Socia.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
Just kind of lobbed it in there, and you threw
a strike to Miguel Rojas, right, that's who it was.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Lazy. Yeah, he came over. He says, man, you're hurting
my handle.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
You threw that hard. We wrap you to him on
all right? Joining us now. Nine year Major league veteran
infield for the Giants, Angels, Phillies, and Nationals. Kevin Franzen.
He's at Dodger Stadium hosting Serious XM's pre and post
game shows for Games four and five. He was there
for Game three last night. You could also hear him
hosting Loud Outs Saturdays at seven am Pacific on MLB

(02:48):
Network Radio. And he joins us now here on your
Home of the Dodgers A five seventy LA Sports. Kevin,
good morning, thanks for joining us after such a long
night last night.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
How you doing?

Speaker 6 (03:00):
Yeah? I was like, man, I'm here at the game.
What happened? I don't know what's going on. Thanks for
having you guys. Saxty. What's up?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
How you doing? Kevin?

Speaker 6 (03:09):
I'm doing great. I'm doing great. It was a fantastic game.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
What a finish last night. We've been talking about it
all morning long. Kevin and the bullpen. The narrative this October.
Compared to last year, where the bullpen carried the Dodgers
to a World Series championship, This year it's all about
starting pitching. All we've been hearing from from fans is,
don't go to the bullpen. Dave Roberts doesn't trust the bullpen.
Last night he needed a bullpen, and when he needed

(03:35):
guys that we may have forgotten about or didn't remember
on the roster, Will Climb four innings at Gardo Enriquez,
two winnings. They came through and I loved how Freddie
Freeman at the end of the game Kevin said, hey, yeah,
I hit the game walk off home run. But guys
like Will klinb of the Real MVPs last night, what
a complete team win it was.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
It was awesome. I mean just seeing both sides. I mean,
it's such that it's literally the game that you're going
it's such that both teams have to lose. But for me,
like the Blue Jays lost it where they took out
Barger all the way in the moment, so like do
for a mile straw because now you had, you know,
a bunch of their guys having fifteen they had what
was it Heineman Straw, I KF and one I was

(04:17):
trying to think the other that was going and David
Schneider combined for like twenty percent of their play affairs.
And so you're like, if you're the Dodgers, you're going,
thank god we won that game, right. But I mean
I mentioned after on our post game show, which was
Anthony Bonda, Jessin, Robleski trying and Dryers, Asaki, She and Kershaw,

(04:38):
Riquez and Klein, you always say, Okay, all those guys
pitched and only one guy gave up a hit or
gave up a run. I don't think like China would
have been the only one, right that you would that
he would have been the one that you would have said.
And so like for me, I see, you know, guys
in a big question because I mean again, it doesn't

(04:59):
matter if you pitcher not in this in the World
Series or even this, let alone the postseason. I mean,
Dryer hadn't pitched almost twenty days. That's the one that's
been bugging me is you know, not having him throw
it all. But someone had to step up and to
see will clidbe especially a guy like Will Clyde, who
hasn't thrown more than forty five pitches this year in
the game minor leaguess, big leagues, step up for his

(05:22):
teammates and continue to just absolutely chuck it and let it,
let it all out there. And man, we're lucky to
see that because I mean, again for Will Clyde, hopefully
you hope this is never like the last time, right
for anybody, but like where he is in this spot,
you're going, Man, you never know if you're gonna get back,
You never know if you're going to pitch in a

(05:42):
postseason game, and you just got to, you know, have
a little celebration for yourself and that especially with Freddy
uh mentioning it all about him.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, Kevin, I gotta tell you, I mean, I'm just
astounded to watch what o' tawny does. And you know,
the expect the expectations about him. He's just ra is
a bar every single time he goes out there. But
I gotta I'm gonna give it back a little bit
on the other side too. I'm not trying to make
an equal trade off here, but Alejandro Kirk to me,

(06:10):
is just absolutely incredible. This is the guy that got
out of the Mexican League. He doesn't look the part, certainly,
but man, this guy technically is really a good hitter.
He stays on the ball a long time, he can
pull it, he can hit it the other way. Man,
Look how he caught and threw out Otani at second base.
But this guy is phenomenal to.

Speaker 6 (06:29):
Me, just the whole the whole game. I mean, the one,
the one true knock is what him running like that.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
I mean you could say that, but it Batch throughout
the entire postseason have been ridiculous, his entire bats, Like
in the in the World Series, he feels like he's
on everything right, like he like Treddie feels like he's
on everything too right, Like he like that's the way
I would look at all, Like he's Freddie right now,
Like he's either he's got popular or he's gonna, you know,
line out to the track somewhere. How about the cut.

(06:58):
Like he's not very big. You've been around him, he's
not very bit Like he's okay, we got that whole part,
but like he's just the place coverage he has is insane.
And look in the moment, you know they they had
glass now glass Mel's pitches were being He showed everything
to them, and they had him and he stayed on

(07:20):
that one, you know, early on to really like silence
that crowd. Which let's let's be honest here, guys. I
grew up in the Bay Area, all right, Like I
came here as a giant. I didn't like the place.
It's fun place to come to, but I didn't like
the place these fans were in it. It was insane.
From the beginning. I was like saying, this is the
most chaotic I've seen this place. And it's like and

(07:42):
in that case, that chaos that was created well before
the game stayed through the eighteenth inning. And for like,
I'm gonna sit there and say, for that few moments
up until what the the bottom of the fifth inning,
that that crowd died down because of that three run
home on that Kirk hit. How damns did they come

(08:05):
back and stay in it?

Speaker 5 (08:07):
How much is a George Springer injury affects this Blue
Jays team Because we're still waiting to see, uh, if
it's his side, if he's gonna have an MRI, he's
a little banged up, had to come out of the game.
This could be a game changer for the Toronto Blue
Jays moving forward in the series.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
Yeah, you don't want to call game because of it,
but it really was. That's a hard soul of their
the glue guy of their team, right, the heart soul
is gonna be blatty. But yeah, with George Springer being
out and look, you don't just take it. You just
don't walk off like he did without a being serious.
And that sucks, and that sucks, but you know, at

(08:46):
the end of the day, you gotta fight away. Toronto
did man, they try to find ways to do it
like sactly. I mean, like we know that like this
game and how much it means in the worldship. How
about the freaking players all of the place. Now, a
couple of like bad mental mistakes may be on the basis,
but they weren't like most of the outs on the

(09:07):
basis great plays on the defensive side that created the
whole thing.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Correct, I mean, I think when you look at the
defense and how much that they've stepped up the great
throws relays, I mean, the strikes they throw from the outfield. Uh,
this has just been incredible talent on display. And you know, Kevin,
it's it's been It's been those little underlying things that
really win games, that that step up to the forefront,

(09:33):
that are really noticed. You know, when this game pro
you know, is getting to getting along here. And one
thing I wanted to ask you, Kevin, I think this
is a really important factor. Overall. We look now and
see that this game may have just rejuvenated this this
Dodger team into into heights that we're going to find
out tonight, but it also had the ability to just

(09:54):
absolutely bury this Toronto team. I am very curious to
see what it's like if they come out and the
Dodgers score a couple of runs and show hey is shoving,
and I'm wanting to see the body language from the
Toronto team when the spirit gets broken, the team is buried.
And I hope that hasn't happened to Toronto because I want
to see it go seven if possible.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
I agree, like, look, it's tough. So I was in
the eighteen in game against with the Giants playing on
the Nationals in twenty fourteen, and I would say the
biggest difference in this whole thing is that we didn't
have to fly. They didn't all have to fly cross
country like after that eighteen en game, we had a
flatcross country as that's facing the Giants. Well, they stayed

(10:39):
and it was just it was hard, and we took out.
We took off. The next day a bunch of us
went to the field to just screw around and do
stuff because that's what you know well as baseball players do.
And so it was kind of like a good reset.
I can't imagine playing that next day, seriously, yeah, but
not having a travels nice, but like not playing the

(11:00):
next day. It was really nice. These guys look both sides.
One thing that it's not about like, oh man, these
are such great Yeah, they're such great teammates. These dudes
are in it for each other all game. The Dodger players,
the veteran players, like they got all the bats that
are on there make so much money, we would they
they were top stepping at.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
The entire time.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
Yes, right, think he goes for the blue Jays. These
are two Like the Blue Jays guys we talked to
you before the games into a pre impost right now
with Jenny kavnarj and Boden col Tucker and myself, and
we've gotten multiple times from the Blue Jay guys. Well
it's just like a travel ball team like this is
the best, Like we don't even care, like what's going on.
This is before the eighteen eighty game, so you know

(11:43):
what's actually I'm gonna check it today. I'm gonna do
the get the tamp on it early and let you
know because I'm gonna be honest. Like travel ball teams
still fight.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
Too, Kevin, They're gonna have a tough go though. With
sho hey Otani on the mount, and I loved his
quotes after the UH and saying that he just wants
to go home and sleep. And this is the guy
that if you're in that Dodger clubhouse and maybe you
feel tired, and maybe you caught in eighteen eatings last
night like a Will Smith, or you know you're a
little banged up, or you you went one for eight

(12:13):
and feeling sorry about yourself, the last thing you can
do is go into that clubhouse today, look around and say, man,
I don't I don't have it, but I'm gonna go
out there because the guy on the mound is gonna
be dealing and if he could do it, everybody around
him better elevate their game and be ready to go.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
Well, that's why you got the Miguel Rojases of the world.
That's why you've got these energy guys that are in
that clubhouse, Keith Aarnandaz. You can't even like that's means
this stuff. When you have those guys, that's that's their draft, right,
They're gonna go out and play that secondary because they're like,
we love to play. It's gonna whatever we do is
gonna be. It's gonna happen because we love this thing.
But we're coming in. It's the World Series. If you're

(12:52):
a Dodgers, you think you can bury him to night,
like you get you get out there and you win,
you bury this thing. That's it. Like that, that's got
to be the mindset some Toronto blue Jays on the
flip side of that, what do you gotta do? You
gotta win Like it sucks down because you're in the
pitch pitch bowmen. You can't go you can't go into
for me. And this is elimination game. This is game

(13:12):
seven right here. Yeah, if you're a Blue Jay, I
agree with that.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
So Kevin, you're.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
Going You're going in there. It used to be better
in the days. Let it unleaded, Right, there's those in
the coffee.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, we got lead in these coffee of this coffee.
Or Hey, Kevin, I'm want to ask you, I got
a final one for me. This is going to be
an epic battle tonight. When we see Guerrero going against show, Hey,
I mean as a hitter, I mean, how do you
I'm just trying, how do you size up and how
do you kind of like measure out what you do

(13:45):
against Otani? Is it getting that splitter up in the zone.
Where you get that splitter up in the zone, then
the fastball all of a sudden is over your head.
You're swinging at it. Oh, you got to get the
fastball down well, then you start swinging out the splitter.
This is a great combination that Otani has. And you
know he's checking up there at one hundred miles an hour.
What's the game plan on Otani? If you're a guy
like Guerrero.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
Like I, I'll personally think like it's O Toddy Moores
like I just like I laugh. H was it two
years ago? Three years ago?

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Two years ago?

Speaker 6 (14:17):
When he was with the Angles, it was like one
of his last starts. He threw like twenty three the
first twenty five pictures were against the Nationals were sweepers.
Like it's like these guys are summer right now, Like
what do you do? Is like the last two and
he just started blowing doors off people. So you know
what I feel like the moments dictated for him, right,

(14:38):
like he knows like these moments dictate what what's gonna happen.
He does think it's trout right, like you think about
the WBC in the moment, he didn't just like he
threw a great sweeper there, but then he just.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
Nope, we lost him, We lost Kevin unfortunately. Uh well,
thanks to Kevin Franzen from MLB Network, Serious Radio, we
lost him there, and uh we'll call back and tell
him thank you for coming on. But yeah, some good
insight from him. You can check him out on MLB
XM radio pre impost with Cole Tucker and Jenny Kavnar
and crew and Jim Bowden doing a great job seeing

(15:10):
him out there at Dodger Stadium doing their thing. They
are absolutely fantastic in their coverage. And you worked for
Serious XM MLB Radio for a long time, Saxy, so
you know what's all about those guys and how in
depth it is in baseball coverage, and it's fun if
you're a baseball nerd, if you're a baseball guy through
and through, it is fun to listen and talk baseball
twenty four hours a day. So thanks to Kevin for

(15:33):
popping on this morning. It's going to be interesting to
see the approach for the Blue Jays tonight and to
get the temperature of the room there so to speak
of how they're feeling coming out. Just real quick before
we take a break and come back, Saxie, we'll hear
from Shoeyo Tani. We'll get to phone calls. The media
at Game three yesterday was unbelievable. The amount of people

(15:55):
and then all of a sudden, the commissioner shows up,
and you got former grades, Joe Tory shows up, you
got MLB executives, you got Ryan Howard and all these
former players there. I mean, it was a who's who
in that field. It was like a rock concert, shoulder
to shoulder media and MLB people.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
It was wild.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
I don't even remember being that crowding for Dodgers Yankees
last year, but man, it is to a new level
this year. The excitement and the buzz and the amount
of people at Dodger Stadium. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, it's and it's gonna be that even much more tonight.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
No doubt. He is Steve Zax, I am Tim k
Thanks for being with us on this Tuesday morning as
the Dodgers win last night at eighteen innings. Will come
back here from showey Otani, get to your phone calls.
If you're watching on X on YouTube, Facebook, we'll be
with you in a moment on the other side. Will
also get your eight o'clock code. Where don't go anywhere,
Sax and Kate's in the am on your home of

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the Dodgers, your home of the World Series Anti seventy
ice Sports. All right, Sax, we were talking last time
here on the stream during the commercial break, which we're
at commercial on a five seven y l A sports,
and man, we got almost nine hundred people watching on

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X Facebook and on a huge shout out to them.
They are listening and watching.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Love that.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yeah, let's see what else is here? Oh, all Trader
Joe's have terrible parking lots. Yeah, that's a given. That's
a given that they do that on purpose. Mickey mouse phone,
Oh they're making fun of your phone while go what
was doing the cameras in here. Uh, and he added
me his phone and he's got a Mickey Mouse He's

(17:37):
got a Mickey Mouse case on his phone, and so
somebody's making fun of his case on the phone on
the on the YouTube.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
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Speaker 5 (17:45):
Oh you got it. I was gonna put a little
note in there, like a little like some x X.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
I'm sure if snell Zella would have sent that to
David Vase, Yeah, it'd been ye. Hey brother, you left
your charger at my house. XO XO.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
Son.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
All right, we're back on the radio, back on the
stream as well. If you're not with us during the
commercial breaks on YouTube X and Facebook, you're missing out.
Great stories, great chatter, great conversations on the message boards.
We really are having a lot of fun here on
Saxon Kate's and the AM. Hello to Ruby and Phoenix.

(18:26):
I know her. It's my daughter, by the way, daughter Ruby,
Hi Ruby, she's she's watching and listening on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Which one did I meet? You met?

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Sadie, my youngest one, Sadie.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
What a doll?

Speaker 5 (18:38):
Yeah, thank you, thank you guy senior in high school
and uh sweet, having a great time. I'm a big
Dodger fan. All, it's crazy. I got three girls and
all of them are Dodger fans. Steve and all of
them became Dodger fans and loved baseball and not just
oh he's cute, or you know, I like this player,
but they're really into the game that they loved the
nuances of it, they love the strategy of it.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
They love that's because their dad, their mom and dad
kind of put that filtered that into them and they
understand the game.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
Yeah, and you know, I think like it's good parenting
that we made them Dodger fans.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
You know, we could have made we could have made
it such a great kit. I mean, you guys have
done a wonderful job with that young Night. You really have.
Thank you. Got a shout out to very very proud
of her.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Thank you. I appreciate that. Shout out to Logan and
Chad who are watching as well. We got a lot
of people. I mean, I'm watching the numbers right now.
We got nine hundred and twelve watching right now.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
All the last time we had yesterday.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
It just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. A
lot of people saying I love listening to you guys,
don't want Dan Patrick. Okay, I'm not gonna get to
that comment, but we appreciate it. We appreciate it. As
the World Series is in full swing here and last night,
how about this, Let's hear the home run from the
eighteenth inning last night. It was a monumental shot from

(19:50):
Freddie Freeman. Who last night did it again Game one
of the World Series last year, Steve Who's on the call,
Steven Nelson and Rick Monday. Last night right here on
AMPHI seventy LA sports a game that was six hours
and thirty seven minutes and counting. It was the bottom
half of the eighteenth inning, right after Will kleinb it's
a fourth inning of relief. Nobody out first batter of

(20:12):
the bottom of the eighteenth inning. And this happened last night.
If you were sleeping, little delivers Freeman.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
It's one high in the air, straightaway center field, far
so at the walk.

Speaker 7 (20:29):
Freddie Freeman, mister World Series ends the marathon at midnight,
his mob at home Place has the Dodgers walk it
off him the bottom of the eighteenth inning, six five,

(20:52):
the final to grab a two.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
To one series lead.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
You want Drummers comes to dog Stadium? What a home
run from Freddie Freeman straightaway center field, walks it off
in the eighteenth inning and the Dodgers take a two
to one series lead.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I got the name for it, Yes, the Midnight Miracle.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Ooh, I like that. I like that. There you are
writing that down. Midnight Miracle sums it up. Okay, how
about freaking Freddy does it again? That's good something. I mean,
the guy is unbelievable to do it in Game one
of the World Series last year against the Yankees, and
to come back and have another walk off home run
this year in the World Series, the only player to

(21:38):
do it twice in World Series history. Man, we can
literally spend the next thirty two minutes running down a
list of first times last time this happened from last
night's game, Steve. There were so many pitchers, there were
so many balls put in play, so many runners that
were thrown out. There were so many little stats that
came out of last night's game that we could sit

(22:01):
here and talk about how many times Otani was walked.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I mean, I believe he has made a relay. Yeah,
that was productive and it worked.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
I mean six and nine pitches thrown in the game
last night. Nineteen total pitchers used, Dodgers used ten, most
by a team in World Series history. In one game,
twenty five position players used six outs. As you were
talking about six outs made on the basis, the biggest
one at home when the Dodgers had the relay to
get Schneider at home, to get the out and to

(22:31):
save the run from scoring. How about thirty seven runners
left on base, the most in a single postseason game.
I mean, these are just a couple of the stats
from last night. It was unbelievable. The six hours and
thirty eight minutes of drama.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
And you saw Freddy Freeman creeping, the creeping Freeman because
he hit a good ball to center. Then he hit
one to the track, then he hit one to the wall.
I think the third or fourth time that he finally
went over the wall. It was a little further each time,
and you could and Freddy talked about it. He said, yeah,
it kind of got that one, and the second one,
the swing started feeling a little better and the ball

(23:09):
started creeping towards the wall a little closer, and finally
hits it out. I mean he hit the ball in
the same area all night.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
Yeah, I mean, it's.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Except for the one he pulled down the line but.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Right, and it's last and Max Munsey almost ended the
game with the walk off home run, but he pulled
it foul down the right field line. You had a
home run hit by Well. We should have been a
home run if not from the marine layer that was
hit last night by Smith Will Smith into left center field.
I mean the traumatics last night, the ups and downs,

(23:40):
the highs and lows. The game could have ended here.
The Blue Jays could have taken the lead. Here, the
bases loaded situation with Clayton Kershaw, we got to quickly
get into that. Clayton Kershaw comes in last night with
a bases loaded situations in extra innings and the music
started playing from Fun. He comes running out of the bullpen,

(24:03):
completely empathetical to what he does in his career, but
a hundred percent, and he comes into a situation where
cards on the table, full disclosure, this is I thought
bad things were gonna happen, yes, And I thought, how
how could you put this future Hall of Famer in
this situation? Bases loaded, two outs, He's gotta be one

(24:24):
perfect and not walk the guy or to if he
throws strikes and the guy hits and puts it in
play to run score. There's no where to go right,
and he's the bad guy, and all of a sudden,
it's oh no, October again, bites Clayton Kershaw in the behind.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Here we go.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
Absolutely, same old story October baseball, Clayton Kershaw. But he didn't.
He goes out there and he gets a three to
two curveball slider it should say, and strikes out Lukes
with the bases loaded to get out of the jam,
or actually got a ground ball excuse me, ground ball
the second to get out of the jym. Amazing, but
still he had to walk that tight rope and do

(25:03):
it without any net behind him, and with really everybody
waiting to criticize him if he makes a mistake, if
he messes up, if he throws ball four there to
Luke's and walks in a run. We're sitting here talking
about Kershaw October. What is it about the month? Why
is it? Why can't he get out? But instead he
squashed that narrative And who knows if that's the last

(25:26):
pitch Clayton Kershaw throws in the big leagues.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
What a way to go out and trump. Very impactful,
absolutely it was huge. Yeah, it was Tim, I want
to bring something up to and you actually brought it
up earlier and we kind of glossed over it. But
it could be a huge, huge factor in tonight's game
and which may be a determinate factor in what happens

(25:51):
overall in this series. What about George Springer. Yes, he
is a lightning rod for this team. He is a grass,
very uber, aggressive guy at the top of the order.
He hit thirty two home runs this year. Okay, he
he kind of he's uh, you know what, He's a
kind of disturber, you know, something disturber on the team,

(26:14):
and he may not be there this This could be
a game changer for that club.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yeah. He saw Ty Franz come in mid and bad.

Speaker 6 (26:21):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
No, you know that's a that is a game changer
if he's there, because that is no comparison.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yeah, and spring against Ty? What is that the lat muscle,
the oblique, the obliques?

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, listen, I pulled an oblique when I went to
When I first signed with the Yankees, I was in
spring training. We were working on cutoffs and relays, and
I got the relay from left center and in the
same motion through home tore the oblique muscle right there
out three weeks. I missed three weeks of spring training.
Is it painful? Painful? You can't sleep? Everywhere you turn,
it hurts like hell. And this this injury travels in

(26:56):
your back. So you you say you heard it on
your side, and in another six or seven days you
see the bruise. The bruise will be down around your
kidney really and then it goes down your back. Yeah,
it travels, it moves out of your system, this injury.
And that's going to be a big determining factor. If
they see that bruise in there and this he's going
to travel on him. He's not coming back if that's

(27:19):
what it is. If it's anywhere near the mid grade strain,
this dude is not coming back. You cannot play like this.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
Well, we've talked about the last few days and even
leading up to this World Series. We may not lock
George Springer. And he's a cheater for what he did
in twenty seventeen with the Ash shows. What's his name
cheating George.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Springer, gotcha.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
But he's a tough guy. I mean, you mentioned he
took a ball off the knee and had an next
to velocity of fifty five miles an hour he got
hitting the hand in Toronto.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Imil there.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
Yeah, for him to come out of the game. And
there's a picture of it if you're watching on x
and Facebook and YouTube, there's a picture of him being
walked off the field last night in extra innings. If
he had to take himself out of the game minute bat, Yeah,
that's that's not a good sign for George Springer.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
You can't and remember George is thirty six, so he's
getting up there baseball wise a little bit. If it's
even a mid grain type of a strain, he won't
be He won't be good for two weeks.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
He is no way he's gonna play. Just checking out
some of these comments. We'll get back to the phones
at a Second're gonna hear from shoey Otani coming up
at busy hour. We also got your code word for
the eight o'clock hour. Just some comments. We could be
here five hours. We got so much stuff to talk
about this week. We could be here five hours. One listener,
Springer is done for the series. Dodgers will win in five.
Happy thirty seventh birthday to my brother David. We don't

(28:36):
do shoutouts, but happy birthday, David, your thirty seventh birthday.
Sacks greens from Saint George, Utah. Hope to see you
at the baseball camp in January.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
David Whitehead, So I know David Whitehead, Hey David, how
you doing? Shout back at you?

Speaker 5 (28:49):
Listen up? Five seventy suits and iHeart suits. Get sacks
and cases show asap. Need to hear them every morning
driving to work. I appreciate that. Got another one of
my daughters, Layla checking in from Phoenix. Hewllo, Leilah. Get
the class. Uh We got Richard, captain with the Arcadia
Fire Department. Yes, nice, Captain oliveris Richard checking in. Thank

(29:12):
you for listening, and then shout out to all our
first responders out there wherever you may be. We appreciate
all of you for what you do. A lot of
great comments, a lot of I mean gosh, so many
great comments and reaction. Yes, five hours of sacks every day.
I need that in my life.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Okay, I hope you're not ticked off at me, for
I'm not. I'm not mean to the people I meet
at Starbucks. I like the people there. That's why I
go there, you know, but but somebody I don't know,
they asking me, hey, man, what's your plans? Is say?

Speaker 5 (29:40):
Okay, let me let me throw hypothetical at you, not
telling you it's not your favorite barista for your overpriced coffee.
Let's say it's what's name.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Of your place? I've got a coffee maker.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Ben's Bakering. Is that where you go in in Sacramento?
Baker Bens, Baker Bens. Okay, Let's say. Let's say Steve
Sacks al Jacked, walks into Baker Bens later today and wants, uh,
I don't know, blueberry scone or a donut, whatever you get? Yeah,
chocolate glazed? Okay, chocolate glaze. And the young man or
woman or somebody behind the counter is like, hey, how
are you doing, Good morning, Welcome to Baker Bens and thanks, Well,

(30:10):
what can we get you today?

Speaker 2 (30:12):
I'll take a just a cup of joe and uh,
you know a glazed don't it?

Speaker 6 (30:17):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (30:17):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (30:17):
We have a we have some fresh glazes right over here.
Let me go grab you a nice fresh one right here.
It's piping hot for you. Hey, how's your day going?

Speaker 1 (30:23):
S on?

Speaker 5 (30:24):
What do you got planned today?

Speaker 6 (30:25):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Just gonna do some you know, some uh, regular stuff
around house. How about you?

Speaker 5 (30:29):
Are you answering them?

Speaker 6 (30:30):
No?

Speaker 2 (30:30):
No, no, no you That was a different way you
say it. You say, how's your day going today? I
might say, ah, just kind of hanging out. But when
they say they want a they want a layout of
what's your plans this weekend? That's none of your freaking business.
I'm not telling you my plans because I don't know you. Okay,
I tell you what i'd like to say, But this

(30:51):
is a family show with the scam, so I will
say it. I love it. I love it.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
I mean, what do they want you to do? Like, like,
you know, send them your it.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Work with me? Tim exactly? Go ahead, what do they
want me to do? You lay out? Okay, At ten o'clock,
I'm doing this. Then I'm gonna go to the gym.
After that, I'm gonna go shopping, and I got my
my brother. I'm gonna go down and we're gonna talk
about the forty nine ers at one and then at
five o'clock the game comes on. I'm really no not
doing all that.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
We got a dude from Eagle Rock who's checking in
and said to ask for him. There we go Eagle
Rock Italian Bakery and Delhi ask for Carlo and grab
a great Italian sandwich. So we don't do shout outs Carlo,
but Eagle Rock Italian Bakery and Delhi, so shout out
to you for that. And if Steve walks in, whatever
you do, Carlo, do not ask him what his plans are. Please,

(31:40):
for the sake of everything, do not ask him what
he's up to and what he's and tim.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
The thing is, it's a phony questions, and let's just
I just want people to be real, like how you
doing today? I'm doing great? How are you good? That's
I like that. That's very nice, and they mean it.
But you got plans this weekend? Yes, God, please save it.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
We got a listener from West Virginia checking in. Shout
out to Alex for that. How about last night? I
don't know if you caught it, and I don't know
what anying. It was maybe fifteen, sixteen seventeen, I'm not
sure which anying, but it was late in the game
last night's actual They showed it on Fox YEP. There
was a platter of pineapple watermelon, and I don't know

(32:19):
if it was honeydew or but it was fruit that
they had cut up and they put on a plate
and they were passing it around the Toronto Blue Jays. Dugout, Okay,
is that because they needed, you know, a little energy,
They needed a little sustenance.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Okay, they needed a little in game of vitamin C boost.
I'm sure. Okay, that's okay, that's good.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Hey, you know what, you know what I saw during
the game too, Speaking of seeing things, Yeah, when Otani
hits his second home run, I'm looking at the crowd
stand up, you know, behind you, right behind the home plate.
Oh yeah, did you see what the guy says? I
got his words mouthed perfectly what he says. You gotta
be efn kidding me. He said it so clear. Of

(33:05):
course you can't hear him, but you can see his
mouth so clearly. It was beautiful. It's a beautiful thing.
It was a great response. Yeah, you know, I think
everybody everybody thought that.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
I think everybody was in aw especially that second home
run where he goes to less center field with it.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
You're thinking, talk about being on the pitch. Wow.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
Speaking of showy Otani, let's hear from him last night
with Tom Berducci, and Fox and Will Ireton his translator
here is shoey Otani after his record night and now
hours before his Game four starts.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Showy Otani, you have given baseball over the years a
galaxy of great moments and great games. But this one
the first player in one hundred and nineteen years with
four extra base hits of the World Series on base
nine times. Where does this one rank for you among
the most meaningful games of your career? You Kioka's your

(33:58):
Q name, but do you know it can coaching?

Speaker 6 (34:01):
Thinking? You are?

Speaker 3 (34:02):
You might come on, I still get what Madison Mosa is.

(34:24):
We won and what I accomplished today? Is this in.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
The context of this game and what matters Mosa is
We flipped the page and played the next game. The
next game, I will remind you you are the starting pitcher.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
In the next game.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
We saw Dave Roberts, your manager, check out you in
the eleventh inning. How do you feel and how will
you feel tomorrow? Killing all shamult Now I want to
go to sleep as soon as possible so I can.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
Get ready rest.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Well, Thank you so much, Hey.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
Thank you all right, there's show Heo Tani on Fox
last night. Yeah he is a guy who loves his sleep,
and if apparently he is a guy who can fall
asleep anywhere at any time, that's pretty crazy, right.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
He was to go to sleep, rejuvenate, and get that
big athletic body ready to start chucking one hundred for
nine innings. He's gonna, he's gonna. His mindset is not
I'm gonna do five and fly because I'm hitting. I
had a long night last night. No, he's thinking nine innings.
You watch he wants to go. He wants to do it.
Yoshiobu did, and he wants to go nine innings.

Speaker 5 (35:35):
Coming up. We'll get Steve's keys to a game?

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Four?

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Is this game four tonight? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (35:39):
Game four of the World Series last night was so
long they played two games. It sort of felt like
they played games three and four last night. So this
should be game five. No, No, tonight's game four? Yeah,
game four tonight. Dodgers and the Blue Jays show, Hey
Otani and Shane Bieber the pitching matchup. We'll get your
code word. We'll get you Steve's keys to the game
as well. Real quick. Before we go to break. Somebody

(36:00):
asked if there was a plate of fruit, which one
are you grabbing first, Steve Sacks oranges, oranges.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
You love it. Oranges and blueberries my favorite fruit?

Speaker 5 (36:08):
All right, oranges and blueberries for Steve Sacks. I'm Tim
Kats and Saxon Kates in the Am live and local.
We're back one final seven to go here on an
FI seventy LA Sports. It's Saxon Kates in the Am

(36:33):
live on an FI seventy LA Sports Live. Also on
YouTube x Facebook. We got over eleven hundred people hanging
out with us right now online, either watching online or
listening online. And that's not even the iHeartRadio app. And
that's not even the great fans listening here over the
radio on an FI seventy LA Sports. Thank you, Thank you,

(36:56):
thank you for making us a part of your morning
drive here on a FI seventy as. The Dodgers victorious
last night in eighteen innings. If you fell asleep last
night and you woke up this morning, you're like, what
the heck happened? Dodgers won? Yeah, Freddie Freeman had a
walk off home run the eighteenth inning, and will climb, Yes,
that will climb? Who through fifteen innings all season long?

(37:17):
Went four innings last night? Put up Zeros as the
Dodgers bullpen came up clutch. So all you naysayers about
the Dodgers' bullpen, and I'll throw myself into that group
as well. I had some comments about them, and I didn't.
I had some. I had some interesting thoughts him.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Really, are you calm about the bullpen now? Or are
you still skitterish? I'm still skitterish. You're still skitterish.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
Last night was one thing, but I need to see
rinse and repeat. I need to see it done again.
And let's be honest. I hope I don't see that tonight.
Let's let's let's just be clear. I want to see
show hal tani as you say, shove tonight against the.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Who are you most skitterish about? You don't want to
say I hate.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
I don't want to say it because I love like try.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
I don't want to put you on the spot. We donteah.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
I don't want to say because I really do like
Blake Trini, but I don't want to say it. Who
it is?

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Who do you like?

Speaker 5 (38:04):
A lot, Robleski, Dryer, Bonda? I mean they all have
one thing in common. They're left handed, So maybe I
like left handers. I don't know, but all those dudes
coming out of the bull, but I like their makeup.
I like them to like Sasaki, right, I love Sasaki? Yeah,
I love he's he's a gamer. I love everything about
him as well. Let's give your eight o'clock code word.

(38:25):
We gave you a code word in the six o'clock hour,
the seven o'clock hour, Rogan and Rodney will have two
more later on today, Fred Petrols some Money will have
two more. If you're writing them all down, remember them,
and then tomorrow we'll ask for somebody to call in
and give us those code words back. And if you
have all seven of them, guess what You're going to
Game five of the World Series tomorrow night at Dodger Stadium.

(38:46):
And who knows, who knows, maybe it's a possible series
clenching Game five tomorrow at Dodger Stadium as the Dodgers
have a two to one serious lead. Showy Tani on
the mountain tonight. All right, our eight am code word
is umpire umpire. So there you go. Write it down,

(39:08):
put it in your phone, put it in the list
of the two words we gave in the six o'clock
hour and the seven o'clock hour and start stacking those words.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
So far the three words are I'm not gonna do.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
That, all right, all right, I appreciate that. Again, those
are your code words from six o'clock, seven o'clock and
this hour. Umpire. Okay, all right again. Shout out to
our friends at Strauss. Our World Series coverage brought to
you by our friends from the field to the work site,
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(39:41):
here in studio and Strauss written across the side as
you see all postseas along and the World Series. Every
Dodger that goes up to the plate, we're in a helmet.
You see it, the Dodger logo on the front and
the Strauss logo on the side. It is a one
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League Baseball. They're trusted worldwide, They're a global brand.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
We love them.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Who else s t r a u SS dot com
And we couldn't be more proud to be partners with them.
Here in October, I'm up.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Here in northern California. I just do a lot of
work in the backyard and I Warren Strauss before, and
they're really good.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
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Speaker 2 (40:18):
There's no sh mediums. They don't have sh medium, and
I would never fit into a sh medium. It's full large. Okay,
yeah right, I'm kind of a large man.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
All right, let's get Steve's keys for a game for
a win, as we do. Greetings from El Paso, Texas. Hello, Renee,
we see you out there. Shout out to Sean who
says hello as well. I cannot thank you enough. All
the great comments and participation again, those watching on x,
Facebook and on YouTube, we really appreciate. We'll do it
again tomorrow beginning at seven am. So in case you

(40:49):
want to hear us as you're driving around, you can
do that in your car. Just put YouTube X. We
can get the audio feed, video feed, see what Steve
Sacks looks like. And we're having a lot of fun
do it. Thanks to Waco of course for coming in yesterday,
today and tomorrow. Thanks to Zach for all his help.
Thanks to Michelle, a great crew here on a saxon
Kate's name. All right, let's get you your keys to again.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Okay, so Tim, there's really a connecting factor here with
this with the keys of course, I think if they
get off to a good start and you know you
can bury these guys, I think you're going to see
the body language really start to slump with Toronto if
they get off to a big start. And so we'll
see what that happens. But the real key is I
want to see what the Smith effect is to be

(41:31):
able to rally and come back, and if he is
catching tonight, if he can be a factor. And secondly,
what is going to be the effect of not having
a George Springer there. I think these are going to
be big keys in this game. Spring without Springer, it's
like you lost your engine. So we'll see with that
what happens with that.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
That's that's a potentially big loss. You're right, because that
one two punch was Springer and Vlad Guerrero.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
That's the top of their lineup. Those are those back
to back hitters that you plan for, and especially later
in a game, you strategize which kind of reliever you're
going to is to right handed bats, you want to
write against them, and that potentially changes his thing and
ty France and no offense, ty Franz is not George Springer,
and that Bad.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
So that's that's gonna be a big difference, I think.
And who knows if it's going to be ty France.
We'll have to see who's gonna be there.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
All right, I'm gonna give you a name right now,
outside of shoe Hey o Tani, who's pitching, Which Dodger
bad steps up tonight and gets it done. It's got
to be Mooky. It's got to be Mooky Mooky. I'm
with you.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I mean know, people say it's the average, the obvious choice,
but he's got to do something tonight because he can.
He's that good. I think expectations are high, better than
popping up in the infield.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
One hundred percent. I think he is ready to go
after last night, intentionally he walked a couple of times
to get to him. I think I think he's ready
to go and ready to burst out here in game four, Saxy,
great stuff. We'll be back at it again tomorrow, six am,
bright and early.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Make sure you.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
Abody see you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Let's takes for the charger.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
Absolutely, I'm glad you got it. Finally, Pony Express finally
reached northern California.

Speaker 6 (43:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
Coming up next, it's Colin coward. You got Rogan and
Rodney at New Listen for all the co words beginning
then and then with Petro some money, so everybody, thanks
for listening.
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