Sax and Cates In The AM (Hour 1) 10/29/25

Steve and Tim recap Game 4 of the World Series and the Dodgers need for more offense. Hear from shohei Ohtani after his start. Manager Dave Roberts hints that there could be some changes in the Dodgers lineup in Game 5

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
They say, the hardest thing in sports isn't winning a title.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's hard to repeat seasons.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
It's winning it again.

Speaker 4 (00:07):
This year is not trying to win a championship, They're
trying to repeat.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's October baseball for your world champion in La Dodger.

Speaker 5 (00:14):
This twenty twenty five Dodgers are the National League's Western
Division champions.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
And you know what that means.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Saxon Kates and AM is back.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
This is Saxon Kates in the Morning with Tim Kates
and former World Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Reacting, taking your phone calls talking Dodgers playoff baseball all
postseason long.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Now here they are on AM five to seventy LA
Sports and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Steve Sacks, Tim Kats.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Tim Kates and World Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Oh boy, here we go. Let this series ruin again.
A best of seven World Series now a best of
three between the Dodgers and the Toronto Blue Jays. Good
Morning Southern California, Tim Kaits along with two times World
Series Champion Rookie of the Year, It hands down our

(01:13):
favorite number three of all time in a Dodger uniform.
The one and only Steve Sack Saxy.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Good morning, Good morning, Tim. How are you?

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I'm freaking out, Saxy. I know I am freaking out.
It is def con whatever one five. I don't know
which degree you go up or down, but I'm there.
I've reached it. It's at its pinnacle. I'm at high alert.
However you want to say it. I am a mess
right now, with the Dodgers and Blue Jays all tied
up at two games apiece.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, how'd you sleep last night? Not good?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Not good at all? Wow, night as well? Not even
close my eyes right, just sat there thinking and stewing
in the misery that was Game four last night, and
now thinking of what's to come with two of three
in Toronto and the Dodge needing desperately to win tonight
in Game five at Dodger Stadium, to go back to Toronto,

(02:06):
needing to just one of two of those games, but
tonight the biggest game of the series, and last night
I was absolutely disappointed, Steve. I was disappointed in the crowd.
I was disappointing the Dodgers' effort. The Dodgers' offense looks
completely flat. I'm sorry, did the Blue Jays win the
night before at eighteen innings, or did the Dodgers win
in eighteen innings the night before, because it looked to

(02:29):
me like the Toronto Blue Jays had all the momentum
and had all the confidence and had all the energy
last night against show Hey Otani. Meanwhile, the Dodgers offense
looked completely lethargic in the game last night.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, it did. Couldn't get a big hit, and I frankly,
you know, just Beeber really out pitched a show Hey.
And you know, I thought Otani did pitch pretty good.
He did make the one mistake to Vlatti, which Foddy
makes him pay for them. But overall, you know, pretty
hard fought game. But man, when they get ahead like that,

(03:05):
Toronto really gets a lot of confidence. And that's what
they showed. They showed a little bit more pep in
their step. They're the team that got whipped on in
eighteen innings a night before, But now we're best of three.
Tim This is this is obviously the most important game
to this point. You win this game, you go back
to Toronto and you only have to win one of
the two games. So this is huge. Tonight, we're gonna

(03:27):
see what snell Zilla has to bring to the table.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
You know what, And all those people out there in
the media was just watching MLB Network. You can save
it with this whole percentage crap. Well, the team that
wins Game three wins sixty nine percent of the time
in the World Series. Shove it. I don't want to
hear it. And now I'm hearing, well, whoever wins game
five in a best of five series in which is

(03:52):
tied to two goes on and wins seventy percent of
the time, and that is happening for the last five.
Save it. I don't want to hear that crap anymore,
because now the Dodgers and Blue Jays find themselves in
a battle. And I don't think what happened in for
the last five World Series, or what has happened in
previous series over the last sixty years, has anything to

(04:16):
do with where they the way the Dodgers' bats are
quiet and have been silenced and have done nothing here
in the World Series outside of a couple of hits
here and there. And don't give me this, Well, they
scored five runs in a game. Well, last night they
had a whopping two hits for majority of the game
against Shane Bieber last night. The Dodgers offense did nothing

(04:36):
to string together hits. And I'm sick and tired of
watching every Dodger go up to the plate and try
to hit a home run. It's not freaking home run
Derby anymore. It's the postseason. Try stringing together some hits,
playing a little team baseball like the Blue Jays are
doing Dakin and Duncan, and then hitting a three run
home run or a two run home run, and then

(04:56):
back to hitting the ball the right side of the
field and then the flairingy to the out.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Try doing that. Yeah, some of that would be good.
And it's it's if you want to even see him.
Try to do it with the guy in second. Nobody out.
You got to get the ball to the right side,
hit it on the ground.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Dodgers apparently don't know how to do it.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, it's called a productive out, and it's not necessarily
giving yourself up. It's not because you can hit the
ball hard over there and get a base hit. You
can actually hit it soft over there and get a
base hit. Run scores. You got to hit and you
might be in scoring position because you might get a double.
With the way that they put the defense up, it's
really three guys on the left side, albeit one guy's

(05:35):
barely on the other side of second base, the second basement.
That is, you got a chance to drive a truck
through there, why not utilize it. But you know what,
we're seeing a lot of and I think you kind
of hit the nail on the head when you talk
about trying to hit everything out of the park. How
many times are we going to see a pop up
to the right side. I'm a right handed hitter, Are
you kidding me? I mean, it's it's one after another.

(05:57):
And look, I don't want to come on here and
and rag on the hitters and whatever. I know how
hard it is to hit. I've probably done the same thing.
I'm sure I have. But I'm just watching from a
fan standpoint now because I get to and you want,
you want to see the guys try to, you know,
play a little situational baseball. But popping up to second

(06:20):
base and first base of right field all the time
means the bad drags and you're underneath the ball. You
can that's a real simple adjustment, very simple adjustment to
just stay on top of the ball and you know,
keep your hands up and drive through the middle of
the field. Good things happen. Then sometimes you will pull it,
sometimes you won't. Sometimes you'll be a little late and
you'll still hit a line drive to right field. So,

(06:41):
you know what, easier said than done. It's not easy
hitting baseballs. And ask anybody that's played, it's very, very
difficult to do.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
One thing is abundantly clear. And if you're a Dodger fan,
you can see this. I can see this that the
Dodgers in order to win this World Series, it's gonna
have to be somebody besides show, Heyotani. Because the Toronto
Blue Jays last night, once they got the lead, all right,
we'll pitch to Otani. We don't care we're up six
to one. But when it's a tight game or when

(07:11):
they're trailing like they were last night and the Dodgers
had their early lead, they are clearly not pitching to
show Heyotani. And why would you when you've got a
nine hitter and Andy Paiez who's hitting eighty who's got
zero home runs, who's got zero walks in this postseason,
in the month of October, and why would you pitch

(07:33):
to show Heotani when you've got Mookie Betts hitting behind
show Heyotani, and last night in the eighth Heating had
only his fifth hit and thirty four at bats since
the start of the NLCS. Clearly, clearly the game plan is,
don't let show Hey beat us the rest of the series,

(07:53):
and we're gonna make these other guys do it, even
a future Hall of Famer in Mookie Bets, who is
not hitting the ball well at all. This is the
clearest example of a game plan I think we've ever
seen lined up against the Dodgers, don't let Otani beat you.
Let it be somebody else. And nobody outside of Freddy

(08:14):
Freeran's Freddie Freeman's home running Game three has done anything
to prove that theory wrong.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, well, you know it's clear that that they're always
going to try to avoid pitching to Otani if possible.
It's not even close, and they've got an opportunity to
make that easier by getting Andy Pays out. I mean,
if they get him out, you're facing Otani with one out,
or maybe maybe you've got the Hernanda's and Paie has out.

(08:40):
Now you've got Otani with the you know, nobody on
and you can just go at him. You can pitch
to him, and those are the times they did pitch
to him, and they were successful yesterday as he was
over three with two strikeouts. So that's that's the game
plan is. If you don't have to pitch to Otani,
they won't. But let's do it when he can't hurt
us as much. Let's do it when the bases are

(09:00):
empty and there's two outs, because we just got out
Hernandez and Paez, now we can go at Otani and
see what we can do with him.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Otani on the mound last night, six innings of work.
He ended up giving up the full runs on six hits,
six strikeouts, one walk. Sexy. He kept this team in
the game. They jumped out to an early one to
ninzing lead. He kept him in the game. He had
the momentum there early and then he gave up the
two run home run to Vladimir Guerrero. It's still only

(09:27):
a two to one game. He still then continued to
go up in the fourth and the fifth and put
up zeros despite traffic on the base pass he had him.
At one point, he struck out three in a row.
He kind of got himself into a little groove and
waited for the Dodgers offense to help him, to help
put up zeros, And where are you guys, where's my
offense around me? It's a two to one game. Somebody

(09:49):
helped me out, Somebody get on base, somebody stopped trying
to jack the ball out of the ballpark instead pop out.
Let's do something. And nobody helped him out last night.
And finally and unraveled in the seventh inning and the
bullpen gave it up play trying and Anthony Bonda just
couldn't get anybody out. Otani gets credited for the four
runs given up because he left with runners on base

(10:11):
and the Dodgers down six to one at that point.
It might as well been six hundred thousand to one
in the seventh and eighth inning, because the way the
Dodgers' offense was not doing anything last night, and the
way Dodgers standing was quiet all night long, there was
no way they were gonna gonna come back. And I
don't blame the fans, Okay, there are some people right
now that want to get after the fans. Where did

(10:32):
you go for Game four last night?

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Got there?

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Fil No, it's not. These guys are paying millions of
dollars to do a job, to go out and win
baseball games. Be productive, get hits, get outs, play defense
to whatever you can to win a baseball game. And clearly,
if you need fifty thousand people to be on their
feet and throw a rally towel around the aar to

(10:54):
get you fired up, then something's wrong with you.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Hey, Tim, you know what it's. It's I can look
at this whole situation right now from kind of a
more of a technical viewpoint, not from an emotional one,
and I can this is what I see. This is
what I see. I see the Dodgers face with some
tough pitching. There's no question about it. I know how
hard it is to face these guys. It's tough. But

(11:19):
I think that they're pressing a bit. I think I
think maybe a change and a center field and put
somebody else there that can kind of maybe have a
different perspective for the team at the bottom of the
line but coming into show Heotani, I think that could
make a difference. But but you know what we have
on display here, This is really on display. This is
the biggest station in the world right now. We have

(11:40):
on display a team that is really built to slug.
Nothing wrong with that. Look what the Dodgers have done
in the past several, you know, decade plus, they've been
phenomenal at it, and they're really good at it. And
then you have a team on the other side with
Let me ask you this, how many people before this
series started have heard of a guy named Addison Barger?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
I would say most people hadn't.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
How many guys have heard of a guy by the
name of Ernie Clement?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Never heard of him?

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Never heard of him? How many guys do you think
people in the stands have heard of a guy named
Andres Jimenez?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Say his last name right?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
How many guys have heard of Dalton Varshow you heard
of his dad? Gary? But how many guys have heard
of Dalton? Maybe a couple? Okay, everybody's heard of everybody's
heard of Aashett and Guerrero. We got that down. But
how But how many guys also and this would be
the last one that I ask you have heard of
Nathan Lucas?

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Never heard of them?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Okay, So what we have on display here is the launchers,
the guys that can slug. Both teams can pitch against teams.
A team that puts the ball in play, a team
that was the second hardest team to strike out through
the course of the year, A team that hits situationally,
a team that hits the ball the other way. And

(13:05):
this is what we're dealing with here, a really good
team that doesn't strike out, that puts the ball in play.
They can launch when they have to, like Guerrero, and
we know that, but they don't have a lineup full
of guys a hit home runs. They have guys that
put the ball in play. Look at their catcher, I mean,
I mean and Kirk. You know, Alejandro Kirk does not
fit the bill as a s felt you know, athletic

(13:28):
catcher behind the plate. But he's a really good baseball player.
He certainly is Ernie Clement, As I stated this before
we started the series, this guy's a really good player,
and I think people can see now that he is.
He hits the ball everywhere, he plays good at third base.
Not a big home run hitter, but man, he's a
good player. He's only hitting three ninety three in the series,

(13:52):
you know, so you go up and down. It's just
a matter of styles. These two teams are both really good.
They're both It's tied up right now. It's a best
of three, and it could be a flip of the coin.
You know, whoever's playing better through the last three games
is gonna be the world champion.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
And right now, the Dodgers, if you want to look
up momentum, they had it after game three. The Blue
Jays have snatched it back. And I worry about game five.
I worry about the psyche of this team coming back
for Game five and the offense try to find itself,
because I've seen it too many times over the years,
and this year in particular, this group, you know, trying
to find their offense, trying to find a groove. And

(14:30):
we mentioned it yesterday. You know, all what's gonna take
is one guy to lift the lid, and you know
this offense gonna take off. Well, it hasn't yet. Hooki
hasn't done anything. Freddie had a walk off home run
in the eighteenth inning and they win by the battle
actrician in game three. Other than that, there hasn't been
a ton of offense. You can hang your hat on
and be like, wow, this team is really busted out.

(14:50):
Even Dave Roberts, who are gonna hear from a little bit.
Seems to be concerned about his Dodgers offense here in October.
They've absolutely picked the wrong time to not produced collectively
as a team. And I wish, I wish we could say, well,
six or seven guys aren't doing anything, but we can
count on this guy and this guy because they're carrying
the Dodgers. Hey, we we can't even say that right now.

(15:13):
Nobody's doing anything.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Tim Here's another thing that you can make of comparison
with there's not one person in the Dodger lineup that
has a three hundred average in this series.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Embarrassing, not one.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
There's not one that has it, and it's there's nobody
even close to having it. Okay. Conversely, you look over
at the Blue Jays three h nine four nineteen, three
sixty four, three twenty seven, three ninety three and on
and on. They got a whole bucket full of guys

(15:47):
that are doing it over there because they're not overswinging,
they're hitting the ball the other way, and they're stringing
hits together and playing good defense and pitching. Of course
that's almost a given, but that's the offense of comparison
and we'll see which one's gonna win out.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
They called him the comeback kids from Canada that don't
know any better, A ragtag group of guys who are
out there now without one of their two big superstars,
George Springer an oblique injury. He's not out of the
World Series roster altogether, but probably not gonna see him
barring a miracle comeback.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
He's not coming back to him, no chance.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
And so even without him, they still produce because why
their superstar elevated his game in Vlad Guerrero and carried
them with a home run early to give him the lead,
and then the rest of the guys went to work
in that Toronto Blue Jays lineup last night. For the
first time I think we've seen in the two years
with the Dodgers now again, a lot of people forget
he spent six years in Anaheim, in baseball purgatory, but

(16:44):
he did pitch a lot in the major leagues for
six years. But now in the last two years we
saw all Otawni do. Was put up historic numbers as
a hitter, as a baits dealer last year a fifty
to fifty guy. Now this year he's back pitching and
doing so really well and putting up big numbers and
striking out guys. Last night was the first time I

(17:04):
felt like he got hit back and stunned, if you will,
if this were a fight, somebody punched back finally and
hit him, and I think rattled his cage at least
as a pitcher, and obviously we know as an offensive player.
When he pitches, the production comes down because he's doing both,
and he's doing it even a higher stage. Last night
zero for three with a couple of strikeouts. Now what

(17:25):
does he do today? We'll find out. The day after
he pitches is also used usually a slow day offensively.
But here here's shoe Aotani last night after his start
with will Ireton. His translator asked an awful lot about
coming back after an eighteen inning game, how he was
able to pitch, and about his outing last night, which
again for the first time in a Dodger uniform, and

(17:45):
on the mound we have seen show hey Otani, look human,
here he is.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
How many hours of sleep did you get last night,
what time did you get to bed, and did you
feel any differently today on the mound that you do
during a normal start, and.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
Is good need certainly, you know now I shared this
second alright, man, notill be good.

Speaker 8 (18:11):
Slap at two a m. Felt pretty good about, you know,
being able to have quality sleep.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
And yeah, and then did you you felt about the
same as you normally do during a start?

Speaker 7 (18:22):
Hi?

Speaker 8 (18:29):
Yes, I was able to get on the mound in
pretty good condition.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, Shoy.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Why do you think you guys as an offense maybe
haven't quite been able to click in October quite like
you were able to during the regular.

Speaker 7 (18:40):
Season, Aunt posted to count month me.

Speaker 8 (19:00):
No, you know, we're facing quality arms this time of
the year against really good teams, and we're facing a
top of the you know, the best of the best,
So I think it's not that easy. But at the
same time, we could do, you know, at least the

(19:20):
bare minimum and to be able to put up some
runs tours behind the last bill.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
And last night was a weird game because of all
the intentional walks. But generally, what are the differences that
you find in how teams pitch you when the guys
ahead of you get on base as opposed to tonight
when they don't get on base.

Speaker 8 (20:04):
Regardless of postseason, regular season, I think when there's guys
on bass versus not on bass. You're just gonna just see.

Speaker 7 (20:13):
Just different ways of being attacked. But my my approach
is pretty simple.

Speaker 8 (20:18):
You know, I swing as strikes and don't swing at balls,
and that's how I evaluate myself.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Was it more challenging then you thought body wise?

Speaker 6 (20:27):
Coming back? Was it different than you thought it might be?
And how challenging maybe was that for you?

Speaker 8 (20:32):
Today?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
You don't.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
Saying on his ship adopt this.

Speaker 8 (21:03):
Although we did lose the game, I thought I had
a productive experience being able to experience this situation. I mean,
look looking at guys like even Will Smith, who caught
every single inning out of that at inning, I think
it was really impressive to see. So we just have to,
you know, turn the page and focus on the next game.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
All right, there's show, Hey o, Tani Steve. I I
respect the media and being a part of the media.
I understand their job, and I understand you're trying to
get things out of players, and you're trying to ask
questions and you know, try to get answers. I understand this,
But do we have to continually ask all the players?
And you're gonna hear this throughout the show this morning.

(21:44):
Is we're gonna hear from Max Munsey, and we'll hear
from Dave Roberts and Will Smith and guys. But do
we continually have to ask the guys last night, how
did you feel? How much sleep did you get?

Speaker 8 (21:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:53):
I feel like you're arrested.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
They're not stocking shelves at Ralph's early in the morning
and then going out and working a double and playing
you know, Game four the World Series. These guys go
home to very nice houses and go and sleeping very
nice beds, and wake up late and come to the
ballpark with a nice cup of joe from a fancy
coffee shop and get ready to play baseball and get

(22:17):
massaged up and get nice and lose and get a
little lather going. These guys aren't working doubles in triples
and trying to raise night you know, you know what
I mean. They're playing baseball making millions of dollars and
this is all they have to worry about. Why are
we asking him how much sleep they got?

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, let me let me say this, tim flat out.
These guys are in their twenties and thirties, right, Okay,
they bounce back, no problem. I I promise you nobody
is in that clubhouse saying, wow, I'm really dragging. There's
nobody in there that's doing that. That's a misnomer. It's
it's it's a it's a question. Maybe you ask once

(22:56):
and then forget it. Man, get it, get it on
the record, and then move on, because nobody is in
there thinking I'm not at my best because I'm really tired.
They're playing in the World Series. They're in their twenties
and thirties. They ain't tired. I'll tell you that, none
of them are tired. I don't care if it was
they played three games. They're not tired.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
No.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
I mean, let's not feel sorry for guys who got
eight hours of sleep last night, got to sleep in,
go roll out of bed, have some omelets, egg whites,
fancy protein drinks, and then go to the yard and
have fancy coffee and probably have a couple of energy
drinks while they're at it to get ready for a
baseball game. And as you mentioned, are in their twenties
and thirties and in prime condition and in the best

(23:39):
shape of our lives. Let's not start asking questions about
how did you sleep last night? How many hours did
you get do you sleep like really good?

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Really good?

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Hey, the Toronto Blue Jays had to go to bed too.
Toronto Blue Jays had to go to a hotel in
downtown LA. In which hotel the.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Do drop in?

Speaker 3 (23:58):
I think it was the best Western off of Wiltshire
down by the the Arco Gas. No, they're staying in
a five star hotel to the nice beds. Oh. No,
they're eating you know, box lunches from h some sandwich
places down. No, they're all eating well, they're all having
chefs make stuff for them. They've all got their protein drinks.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
These guys shower.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yes, they're fine. They're all pampered million dollar athletes playing
a sport we all love, and we're watching them on
the highest plot. No, I'm jealous. I wanted to be
one of them. But let's not start thinking that they're
working doubles and getting four hours of sleep and have
to put food on the table for kids, and you know,
worry about health insurance. What are they driving to work? Oh,

(24:43):
they're they're they're hardly getting there. They're working on a
four cylinder car that's running on three cylinders right now
and three tires. Uh, and the headlights don't work.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
I mean, come on, come on, they're doing pretty good.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
We're looking for excuses. I'm sorry to sleep.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
I like to throw it out there and say, well, yeah,
but the last thing and they and they're scoffing at this,
the last thing they are is tired. They're not tired.
I guarantee you they are not tired.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
You know he's tired. Yeah, the guy listening right now,
You in your car heading to work at six twenty
five in the morning, having got a few hours of
sleep because you were watching the Dodger game last night
and watching them get beat up by the Toronto Blue Jays,
and then you're stewing about it, wondering if this Dodgers
team's gonna wake up the final three games, and then
you gotta wake up this morning. You got kids, you
got a mortgage, you got a job you're going to

(25:30):
right now you probably hate, and you gotta go worry
about the kids all day. That's something to worry about.
That's something to care about. Ask these guys questions. You
drive it, that's what you care about. You don't care
about how much sleep they got going into game for
the World Series. They're fine. How about you ask him
what the hell's wrong with the bats? Why we popping
up the first base all the time. Why are we
not producing runs? Why can't we string together it? Why

(25:53):
are we all trying to jack the ball the ballpark?

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Tim, you need to express yourself. I really I'm pissed off, Steve.
You shouldn't come in here and hold things back. I mean, seriously,
I was reading a story once about and now I
will be quick on this was I know we're up
against a break. I was reading the story once about
this picture. I forgot who it was. I forgot who
it was, but it was a basis loaded situation. And

(26:16):
he walked, the guy walked the run, and then a
guy got hit, and the game was over, and he
was at his locker and they asked him about the pressure.
About that situation, He said, what's the pressure?

Speaker 9 (26:28):
Like?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
I mean, did the pressure get to you? He said, listen,
I'm playing baseball. I love what I do for a living.
I didn't have a good game. There's people out there
that got three or four kids. They just got fired
from their job and three of their kids are sick.
That's pressure, yep, that's pressure.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Amen.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
So put in perspective.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Eight sixty six nine eighty seven two five seventy. I'm
fired up this morning. I'm also a little ticked off.
Dodger's offense picked the wrong time not to produce. Where
are all the bets? Where's Mookie bets?

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Where's offense? Is Pie has playing tonight? Andie Pie has
better be on the bench tonight? Oh, Tommy Edmund better
have his feet standing in center field? And we better
see Miguel Rojas at second base at the bottom of
the Dodgers lineup. Maybe Mickey Rowe could give a spark
in this Dodgers offense eight sixty six nine eighty seven

(27:19):
two five seventy. How much sleep did you get last
night's show?

Speaker 7 (27:23):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Hey, how'd you feel last night after playing eighteen Indians?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (27:26):
I'm sorry. I had to go work today. I had
to go worry about my kids. I had to worry
about my mortgage, my health insurance. I'm not worried about
how these guys are sleeping. I wanted they start producing.
Do they make enough money to not be worried?

Speaker 2 (27:39):
No, barely.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
They're scraping by. They're scraping by taxi month to month,
week to week. Please eighty six six nine eighty seven
two five seventy. I'm tired of the excuses. I just
want this Dodgers team to figure it out. They're a
better team than Toronto Blue Jays. They're more talented than
the Toronto Blue Jays. They got a young kid on
the mountain night who they should rip apart and get

(28:00):
out of that game early, and Treyy Savage greet him
with some offense tonight and get him out of the
game early and go back to Toronto. Win this freaking thing.
Eight sixty six, nine eighty seven two five seventy SAX
and Kate to the AM on a fired up Wednesday
morning on n FI seventy LA Sports. Sax and Kate's

(28:25):
in the am here on this October twenty ninth Wednesday
morning an FI seventy LA Sports. Thanks for being with
us as the Dodgers and Blue Jays all knotted up
in two games a piece in this World Series. Game
five coming up Wednesday nights at Dodgers Stadium, first pitch
at five oh a. Blake snell back on the mound
from the field to the worksite. Strauss powers our World

(28:46):
Series coverage here on AM five seventy l A Sports Hey,
the star. The stars were out last night at Dodgers
Stadium Saxy, so at least there's that. Yeah, we got
Prince Harry and Megan Markle Sidney be started.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
On those two. Okay, please, it's not a good subject.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
I forget it. The Royal family huh yeah, well not them.
Oh okay, thank god they're not in. You had Brad Pitt,
who was out there. Love Brad Pitt to see him
and sitting next to Flee from the Red Chili Peppers.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
They were ok, yes, love it. I love Brad Pitt.
He's awesome with a great actor.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yeah, Jason Bateman was out there again. It's interesting. I
was told by Jason Bateman's publicist that he doesn't have
time to do a radio interview, that he is too busy,
oh and not available.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
So sometimes they put stars up and they put their
name and I'm saying, who's that, Who's I don't even
know that person.

Speaker 7 (29:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
The other night we saw Justin Herbert, quarterback for the Chargers.
That's a star and he's a great quarterback. Oh yeah,
he was sitting right next to some guy named Justin Biburr.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Justin Yeah. Well, I'd rather meet just Herbert Justin Herbert. Okay,
you know you don't meet the other Justin us. Well,
I'm a big fan of Herbert. Just put that way.
He's about six seven, he's a big dude, man, big man.
He's got a big arm. The guy can really throw.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
And he's now crossed over and to the pop world
because he's got a girlfriend named Madison Beer who is
a pop artist. So what's wrong with that? Like Travis
Kelcey dipping his toe into the pop world with Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Now we've got whatever whatever, are.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
You not as swifty? You're not a man?

Speaker 2 (30:15):
No, let's just say no, not really.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
No, I could have sworn I saw you had a
Taylor Swift Concertly, No.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
You wouldn't see me there. Stick to music is all
I gotta say me.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
A different Steve. Okay, we got a lot of Dodger
fans went away, and rightfully so, by the way, coming
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(30:45):
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So keep listening. We're that cue to call, and when
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Game five. So that's coming up. But I'm pretty fired

(31:05):
up this morning and pretty angry at the way the
Dodgers played last night. I feel like they can play
way better than they've been playing in this series. Despite
winning two of the first four games. There's still a
lot of meat on that bone, I believe for them
to go get and a lot there offensively still for
this team to go in. And Dave Roberts said there's
probably gonna be changes to this lineup, which you know,

(31:26):
it's a good thing. Obviously, production speaks for itself, Steve,
But with lack of production at the bottom of the
lineup in Game five of the World Series. If you're
a player and you come in today and that lineup
car looks a little different, what does that do to
your mindset? You looking at that and you're starting, You're
Steve Sacks, you're starting, you're leading off at second base.
But you look at the rest of the lineup and
you see but a little bit of a shakeup. Are
you like, yeah, all right, that's a good thing, we need.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
This, or well sometimes it's a different perspective makes all
the difference in the world, It really does. I mean,
you see a little bit more small ball. Maybe tried
to go out there by putting the Rojas and Tommy
Edmond in centerfield's possibility a little more contact, maybe less
popping out to the right side. Things like that. Yeah,
that could be. But again, I see Mookie Bets in

(32:10):
there in the cage during the game, you know, and
when he's not hitting, trying to figure things out. There's
nobody that cares more than Mookie Bets. I promise you,
nobody on this planet cares more about some of the
production that isn't there than Mookie Betts. And he cares
about it for the whole team, and he knows how
important and integral he is to this ball club. So

(32:31):
he's trying to get better, and I think he will.
The stars usually come out when it really counts, and
it counts from now on because we're in a three
game series, folks, and I think Mookie's gonna come and
make a big, big difference. Tonight.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
We're gonna hear from Dave Roberts. Next segment, we'll hear
from Bonda and Tried, and later on in the show
to Dodger relievers last night who didn't address the media
after a rough inning which they gave up runs and
really opened up the lead for the Toronto Blue Jays
in that seventh inning, we're gonna hear from you right now.
He's six nine seventy. Thank you for being patient. Edgar
and Carson start things off here on this Wednesday morning.

(33:06):
We got ourselves the series. Now, Edgar, how you doing.

Speaker 8 (33:10):
Good?

Speaker 7 (33:10):
Good?

Speaker 5 (33:10):
First? Uh, let me start it off with a customary
scam Yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Edgar, Edgar, you gotta say scam.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Cow.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
There you go. Now, I'm telling you better talking go ahead.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
All right?

Speaker 7 (33:24):
All right?

Speaker 5 (33:26):
So so yeah, so like U KP, I'm fired up
today and the wrong way. These boys need to wake up.
They kind of have regressed back into that blump in
the late season, and uh, they just need to get
back to hitting. You know, we know they can do it.
So let's just see them come out. I'm not worried

(33:47):
about the game tonight. They just need to wake up,
come out, get those bats, going, get this game and
go back and get one in Toronto. That's all they
gotta do. They they know what they need to do.
Job's not done.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Wait.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Oh and one more things. I got a little bit
of an issue with show Hayes comment about, oh, we're
facing the best pitchers at this time, and at the
very least we can do the minimum. Everyone's facing the
best pitching. The Dodgers have had the best starts. Dodgers
are throwing complete games that team, but then they're finding
pockets to get runs and win games. So the Dodgers

(34:21):
just need to wake up before these youngsters take this
World Series from them. That's all I got. Guys, don't all.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Right, Edgar Well said, I agree with you. I do
push back on those comments from Show he Otani as well,
because as good as the Blue Jays pitching has been
on paper, this Dodger starting staff is better, and I
truly believe, I truly believe that tonight, whatever happens with
the offense, I think we're gonna see Blake Snell of

(34:48):
the first couple starts of October, because he's gonna get
that first pitch strike and he's gonna get ahead in
the count, and he's going to be out there dealing
Game one World Series in Toronto. Okay, whatever happened happened,
pitched into the sixth enning didn't look like the dominant Blakes.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Now I think he's back tonight though, Yeah, I think so.
And you know, look look what they've done. I mean,
this is a this is a prolific home run hitting
team led the National League get home runs d D.
Pitching staff is ridiculous. They got five number one starters.
We all know that they were able to overcome the Phillies,
who had a monstrous team, tremendous left handed staff over there,

(35:25):
mainly to mitigate the effectiveness of Otani and guys like
Max Munsey et cetera and Freddie Freeman. And yet they
were able to beat those guys. Then they played the
team that has more wins than anybody in baseball ninety
seven wins with the Milwaukee Brewers, and they thumped these guys. Okay,
this team found ways to do it with minimal home runs.

(35:47):
I think Kaoscar in the Once series only he's the
only guy hit one home rune. Okay, So they have
ways of finding it out, working it out, and manufacturing
when they have to. I know that the Dodgers can
do it because I've seen him do it on display
in the biggest, biggest stage there is. They beat those
two teams. That wasn't happenstance, No, No, not at all.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Albert, Welcome to Saxon, Kates and Am on this Wednesday morning.
What's going on? Albert, Ben appreciates.

Speaker 10 (36:19):
What you guys do. Jim, I want to say thank
you because you're expressing how most of LA is really mad,
and you know what. Indeed, a big game tonight. I
truly Blake Stout's gonna come back with the benches tonight
and we're gonna get it going.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Thank you, all right, I'll appreciate it. I agree. I
think Blake Snell, as we mentioned, is gonna come back
and have a solid game five. With that being said,
he can go up there and put up zero Steve sacks.
But if he puts up zeros and on the other
side Trey Savage is putting up zeros, then we have
an issue. Like we've had the last couple of games,
a standoff pitching duel, and it's going to be a
team getting a hit or a couple of hits late

(36:56):
in the game, and it can't it be the Dodgers.
My point is the Dodgers' offense needs to be there
from from the jump, first ind and on. Get after
Tray Savage, get after him, knock him out of the
game early, set a message, send that guy back to
the first base, dugout early with his head down, and
Dodger Stadium roaring because there's a crooked number up on
the scoreboard.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Well, he didn't come close to finishing last game, and
they got him out of there. I think the Dodgers
this is a perfect matchup for them tonight. It's something
to gun for because you know, he's done some pretty
nice things in his early time that he's been in
the big leagues. His lack of experience can be a big,
big factor in tonight's game. He can be shaken a
bit because look, he didn't do you know that great

(37:37):
last time he faced the Dodgers, and the Dodgers have
the ability to get at him. They've already seen him.
He's been exposed. He's not going to be a mystery.
They know what they're getting. They know that they can,
you know, work this guy, and you know he can
miss the strike zone now periodically, so they're going to
try to exploit that. And when he does come in
the zone, they've got guys that can, you know, take it,
take him out of there. And I think once they

(37:59):
do that in this start to puncture that veil that's
around him, this is going to be a much much
different game tonight.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
In Game one, Blake Snell five innings, five runs, eight hits,
four strikeouts, three walks. He threw one hundred pitches. Trey
sevag four innings, two runs, four hits, five strikeouts, he
threw eighty pitches. You have to figure both are going
to have an uptick in their game five start, you
would think, based on what they did in Game one,

(38:25):
and you have to bank on the fact that Blake
Snell is going to be a lot better. And here's
a quick little nugget I just saw on the MLB network.
They were talking about first pitch strike percentages, and early
in the playoffs it was about fifty seven fifty eight
percent for Blake Snell first pitch strike and that started
Game one against the Toronto Blue Jays it was forty

(38:45):
seven percent. That's sub fifty percent first pitch strikes. We
talked about it for the last four weeks here on
scam Boy, how you have to get ahead strike one
in the postseason to set up the hitter. And if
you're not doing that, and Blake Snell wasn't doing that
in Game one, what happens? You walk guys and you
give up runs. Yes, walks will kill you.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
I think the fifty six fifty seven percent, I'm not
sure that's about league average. I think league average is
in the mid sixties for strike one. And that's what
you got to do. If you're throwing strikes first pitch
forty percent of the time, you're gonna be climbing up
the hill. You gotta be strike one. And remember this,
walks will kill the team. You can't walk people, especially

(39:28):
coming out of the bullpen.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
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(40:11):
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as the sun rises here in southern California. Dodgers get
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Dodgers who will have to go back to Toronto now
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(40:56):
it all started with Morongo Casino Dodgers on deck. We
talk about pressure here in the postseason and the lack
of energy and sleep and rest the Dodger players gets.
Let me tell you about pressure. Steve Sack. Okay, there
is an overturned truck on the highway in Mississippi yesterday.
Can I bring this up because the cargo that escaped

(41:20):
from the truck that overturned on that road in Mississippi
were aggressive research monkeys who are on the loose. Now,
now that freaks me out. That is something to worry about.
That is pressure until they can capture these monkeys. The
crash led to the escape of six of twenty one

(41:43):
monkeys that were on board, and they're still looking for
multiple monkeys who have been on the run. Now after
the truck accident. Yeah, those things can be dangerous, very dangerous.
Let's watch out for that. That is that's bad. Wasn't
there movies made about, uh, the evolution of monkeys and
overtaking the world and you know, eventually taking over civilization.

(42:07):
I mean, yeah, that's that's. This is how it all starts.
An overturned truck in Mississippi. Uh, these aggressive research monkeys
all of a sudden, in a few years, they're gonna
be talking and they're gonna overtake our country. So you
watch out, this is gonna happen. So Dodgers better win
tonight so we get at least, uh, tim I I
I do see that you are wearing your Strauss shirt.

(42:29):
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Speaker 2 (42:46):
You have on the green, I have on my black
and gray for the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
I think this is this is green or black and
I'm not really sure, it's a dark colored one. Sou
saw the folks at Strauss the other night out of
Dodger Stadium, said a load to them. They flew over
from Germany and they were.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Here to have the German accent they do. Oh that's
cool German. Yeah, I'm half German?

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Are you really?

Speaker 8 (43:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
My name Sacks is German.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
And we can confirm you're not related to the guy
who butchered the national anthem.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
No, he has an E after his name, which is
error for singing.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
He did mess up the words and before game three
Game four last night a beautiful rendition of both God
bless America or excuse me, the national anthem and the
Canadian national anthem.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Oh that's good. Did they have a flyover last night?

Speaker 8 (43:30):
No?

Speaker 3 (43:30):
No flyover for Game four. Maybe they bring one back
for Game five. Maybe the the jets or the planes
will wake up the crowd and the players at Dodgers Day.
But I don't blame the crowd. I don't. I don't
want to blame the crowd for the lack of energy
last night. No, it is up to the players to
get motivated.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
They don't.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
They don't need fifty thousand fans to get them going.
It helps, it keeps it going. Certainly, it gives you
a little bit of a jolt, I imagine, But you
got to get motivated yourself.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
You've got to haven't seen the Dodgers explode in their
offense one of those nights, right.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
One of those nights they put them an eight nine runs.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, you got to say it's coming. But there's only
technically three at the most games left. It's got to
start coming, you know. I mean, I want to see
a blowout night. They can blow somebody out now in
a hurry.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
I mean, where's Mookie Beds? Where is Tommy Edmund? Where
is Keith Aaron? And is mister October Early in the game?
Oh yeah, first batter, it was great batter, got thankful,
got the crowd going a little bit, but after that,
not much to cheer for offensively, And Dave Roberts said it.
We'll hear a little bit from m right now. In fact,
here's the manager Dave Roberts postgame uh, talking about the

(44:41):
game for loss and getting ready for now for game five.

Speaker 9 (44:44):
You know, I think that we knew it was gonna
be a great series. This team is talented, they're resilient
talking about the Blue Jays, and they came back fighting,
caught an early lead, and uh, you know, Ba, you know,
does what he does and used the cutter spun us
minimize damage, limited traffic, and you know, we really didn't

(45:08):
get a whole lot of good swings. And you know, conversely,
you see these guys, you know, grinding and using the
whole field and putting some hits together. And obviously you
know the homer by Vlad and you know that seventh inning,
they built an inning right there, and we just didn't
have an answer. So I think the takeaway is we

(45:30):
saw Ya Savage not too long ago, and so that's
certainly information that we're going to use and expect Blake
Snell to be better than he was in Game one.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
All right, there's manager Dave Roberts. After the loss last night,
he talked about it. They strong together hits, not necessarily
hitting the ball one hundred and ten exit velocity, Steve
hitting four hundred and sixty nine feet into the right
field of pavilion and beyond. I mean, at one point
last night, I don't know if it was Clements or
Jimenez literally lap the ball Clement like an Ero hit

(46:03):
it just over the short stop into left field. Just
sort of excuse me. Exit velocity probably like eighty miles
an hour. It did it matter one hundred percent because
it drove in some runs and it was part of
a crooked number?

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Did the exit velocity?

Speaker 10 (46:16):
Matt oh?

Speaker 7 (46:16):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (46:17):
No?

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Could you tell me what the exit velocity is for
Rod Carew in his career?

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Yeah, it's gotta be well under one hundred miles an hour. Right.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
You know who had the second lowest exit velocity in
Major League Baseball this year?

Speaker 3 (46:31):
The Toronto Blue Jays.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
No, you know who had the second player? Oh, who
had the second lowest exit velocity of anybody in the
majors this year?

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Oh, Alejandro kirk Nope, Ernie Clement.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
No, they're not playing right. Jacob Wilson, Oh, Jacob Wilson.
Jacob Wilson for the Athletics. Who you like him as
a player?

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Love him a thousand Oaks High School, Grand Canyon University?

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Love him?

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:54):
He hit him? And Nick Kurtz are Now Nick Kurts
is a different story. But but Jacob Wilson second lowess
this year, I believe, And he's gonna be right there
in Ricky of the Year running. You make a lot
of money. He's a good player, man, and you know,
second lowest. But did do you care? Does nobody care?

Speaker 3 (47:10):
No, because at one point he was leading the American
League in hitting until he broke his forearm. Right, he's
going toe to toe with Aaron Judge. Yeah, it doesn't
matter how hard you hit it off the bat, just
get a hit. That's what That's what the Blue Jays
did last night. Six runs on eleven hits. Dodgers two
runs on six hits, and those six hits were spread
out over the course of nine innings. Just could not

(47:32):
get anything going against Shane Bieber last night in the
Toronto Blue Jays. One hour down, two to go. When
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(47:52):
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