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back with you guys on another Saturday edition of Fox
Sports Kevin. I know coming up we will be talking
about the NBA and a gambling scandal of the ages
going on. But before we get to anything else here,
I mean, you know how we start things off, dage

(00:52):
go time.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
That's wrong, that's right. We got NFL preseason, NFL preseason
week two kicking off on Friday. Its technically week two
or week three? The Hall of Fame game? Does that
count as a week?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Was that a week zero?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I don't know, maybe maybe the Hall of Fame game
was Week zero out there in Canton.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Week two officiallys what we're gonna call it here. The
NFL preseason had a couple of games on the slate
on Friday night, headlined by the number one overall pick
of the Tennessee Titans, cam Ward uh making a second
start of the preseason, and the number is not necessarily impressive.
Three series, two of seven for forty two yards, although
stats can be a little bit deceiving. I don't know
if you saw this, and it kind of went viral,

(01:28):
probably the most viral dropped past you'll ever see Adam Auslin.
But a pass from cam Ward to Van Jefferson perfectly
placed in front of the linebacker or behind the linebacker,
in front of the safety, and Van Jefferson dropped it.
And everybody was going gaga over cam Ward's perfectly placed
pass that was dropped.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Well, I mean, he looked off the defense, he froze
the middle linebacker, he threw it over three guys. Jefferson
should have had it, and outside of that, there wasn't
much else to look at. So, yes, his best pass
was dropped in that ballgame. And for me, it's almost
kind of like we didn't even talk about him last week,
did mention him the Shadeur Sanders effect, it almost it's

(02:08):
a fifth round pick usurping the number one overall pick
in the NFL draft. Like that's how big of a
story Shaduur Sanders was. He's got so much swag, so
much aura, that he could make I guess the number
one pick in cam Ward look as swagless as I do.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
No, to be fair, cam hadn't played quite yet, so
that there was that to go off of it. Look,
Shadu Sanders, because he was the talk, he was probably
even more popular than cam Ward won because of his
dad and all the hypes surrounded him the draft process,
all of that, it's disappointing that he is extremely unlikely
to play next week or this weekend and probably next
week two in the preseason finale. And so look, we

(02:47):
already knew or assumed that Joe Flacco was going to
be the starting quarterback from day one for Cleveland, but
a lot of people got really gassed up last week
based off of Shaduro Sander's performance that thought maybe he
could potentially push Joe Flacco if he happened to look
good in the last couple of preseason games and so
disappointingly for him and I guess for some Browns fans
that wanted him to start, that's unlikely to happen.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I just didn't ever realize that the fifth round pick,
any fifth round pick, could make the number one overall
pick be mister irrelevant. That's not supposed to happen. Shaduur
Sanders made that happen. All the top this past week
was about him, and cam Ward didn't do enough to
steal the spotlight, even though Chaduur's likely not playing later

(03:28):
on today.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, one thing cam Ward has done in these first
couple of starts has shown what we talked about in
last week's edition of this show when it came to
Shadur Sanders. He looks like he belongs. He looks like
he can make all of the necessary throws. My issue
is the Titans are missing so much. They have such
a dearth of talent. The cover round there I love
Calvin Ridley, but outside of that, what else do they really.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Have to work with? And he didn't play to night no,
and nor should he.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
The issue that you run into is and Look, we've
seen this with rookie quarterbacks. Some start and have success
from day one, and many guys come in from day
one and really struggle and either never recover it or
they end up with the right coaching staff going to
the right situation and they figure it out. I just
wonder right now if cam Ward and where this Tennessee
Titan franchise is currently, If having him start from day one,

(04:12):
which I know the decisions basically already been made, I
just wonder if that's the best thing for him right now.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
You know how when you got your electronics and you
need to start over, there's a soft reset, and then
there's a hard reset where you hold that button for
like fifteen seconds, thirty seconds. Maybe you're resetting the router.
You just want to clear out the bandwidth or whatever,
so to speak. That's what's happening with the Tennessee title
right now. This is a hard reset going on. They

(04:39):
have some talent, They got guys with potential. I mean,
Calvin Ridley's thirty now, I mean he's not a young
guy anymore. So this is just about what's cam gonna do.
Is he gonna be able to lead them? He's talking
about it. He said, I'm gonna speak it into existence.
We're gonna be a top ten offense this season. How
do you feel about that, Kevin Guy.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
I don't think that's likely. Huh, gonna take that one
in Vegas? To be honest, I think Calvin Ridley might.
He has some experience in that, which we'll get into
the next segment. Sir, Oh too soon, sorry, But my
issue is they have a below average offensive line. They
be in the Tennessee Titans that Atlanta Falcons. Despite some
moves they made this offseason in the draft, a couple
of free agents to improve their pass rush, still not

(05:19):
one of the better pass rushes i'd say in the NFL,
and they really got after that Tennessee offensive line. I
wouldn't say Cam Whart was running for his life, but
he certainly had some issues going against a pretty vanilla defense.
He handled it well. But I'm unfortunately, I'm kind of
having visions of David Carr's rookie season with the Houston Texas.
I'm not saying he's gonna get sacked five thousand times.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Seventy six at all. Yeah, just analysts just spitting facts.
It's amazing how good looking he still is, even though
he got sacked that much in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, it's incredible. So I'm not saying that that's going
to happen to him. You just want to avoid shaking
his confidence as much as you possibly can. Now. Look,
I could be wrong. He can come out and be,
you know, the second coming of Peyton Manning or something.
Who knows. I highly doubt that to be the case.
I just want to make sure that he's set up
to succeed, and I don't know if him starting day
one for this franchise where they currently are, it is

(06:11):
necessarily setting him up to succeed and giving him the
best confidence.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
It's the problem we've see in the past with guys
who are very talented, like Sam Darnold. You get on
a team that doesn't have the pieces around him to
just give him the training wheels to get by until
the game starts to slow down for him, and instead
he starts seeing ghosts early on in his career, which
I think he even admitted to. Now he finally shook
him off seven years later last season with a good

(06:38):
year with the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
It all came together in that one season. We got
to see if he can carry that over to Seattle.
I don't know if he can do that.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Well.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I hope he doesn't carry over that playoff performance he
had against the Rams.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
It didn't end well.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, he had a great year and it ended very poorly.
Last game of the regular season two against the Detroit Lions.
So this is what you don't want guys to be
dealing with, like they're always under pressure even when they aren't,
because early on in their career that's what they were
going through.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting to see how this
thing plays out with Cam Warred. Look, the expectations for
Tennessee just as a team are not extremely high, which
is fine, and that's probably good for Cam that he
doesn't have the weight of the world on his shoulders.
It'd be different if this was a deep stack, talented roster.
He was a high draft pick and they are expecting
him to come in from day one to lead them
into the postseason. I don't think anybody realistically expects that

(07:27):
to happen. I just don't want the guy to come
in and get his head knocked off and have his
confidence be shaken and it's a major setback for him.
Or less, we say he ends up getting injured.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
I think maybe what we started within this segment talking
about Shade or Sanders out shining him, upstaging him could
be good for cam Ward because he hasn't done much yet,
no positive or negative. He can kind of fly under
the radar a little bit, even as the number one
pick in the draft by a fifth rounder, somehow out
shining him because he's Dion Son and he's got more

(07:58):
aura than the Dragon. I mean, it's just insane. Shadure
Sanders I this week was Shadure Sanders week. Next week
we don't get that gift on Sports talk radio because
he's likely not playing in Game two against Philadelphia. But
that's still a bigger story than I think what we
saw with cam Ward.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Well, it's probably not going to be because the Shadure
Sanders star is gonna fizzle the less and less he plays.
And he's not playing this this weekend. He's unlikely to
play next weekend if you listen to Kevin Stefanski. And
he was already based on reports, fourth on the depth
chart going into last week anyway, And the only reason
he didn't start is because Kenny Pickett and Dylan and
Gabriel were injured. You get those guys back in the fold,

(08:37):
and look, the Browns are not going to succumb to
the public pressure. And because he had a couple of
good drives in the you know, the first half of
last week's game, and say like, oh my god, this
guy's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Let's throw him
in there. He could be the rookie of the year.
It could be all world. They know what they see
in practice every single day. All the reporters who have
covered the Browns said like, hey, he looks solid, but
we're not acting like this guy is gonna be the
franchise savior, at least not this very year.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Pump the brakes. Yeah, he should have when he got
those two speeding tickets. Miles Garrett too, got.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Example, Miles Garrett.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Every Cleveland Brown is trying to drive away from Cleveland
as fast as possible. That's what it kind of feels like.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I don't know, Well, Miles Garrett was talking that talk
before he got that became the highest paid defensive player
in history. All of a sudden, it didn't matter where
he played if he did that. At that point.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, that's true. He wanted to be gone until they
showed him the money. But Shador Sanders, Look, you can't
lose your job due to injury, but what if you
never had the job in the first place.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
That's a good point.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
He's only getting set back and losing momentum. These are
valuable reps, even him just missing practices right now. That
is a miserable place to be for somebody who had
a little bit of a spark in Game one. He
played about as well as you could. He had as
much buzz as you could get going up against the
Carolina Panthers last week, and now it's eroding this quickly.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Well, what's it gonna do. It's gonna add to his
legend because if Joe Flacco struggles and gets benched or something,
if Dyland Grabriel gets struggles and gets bent, all we're
gonna have to go off of is that hobb about
four or five drives that he had last weekend.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
I'll never forget how good he looked.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, exactly, Adam Austin leaning right into it, They said,
why can't you push your door in? You see what
he did, You see what he can do. He can
light a spark.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
The little devil on the angel of all the coaches.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Come on, Chador can have made that throw. Oh can't
put him in. Come on, you know what he can do.
He's got the awesome chain flying around. It's beautiful. Guy's
a second coming. Come on, even if it doesn't look
that good, even if he misses the throw, he's a
good looking guy. Is dion Son have some fun with it.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I think Chador's time to shine has uh has faded.
I'll put it this way. If Shadora Sanders sees the
field for the Cleveland Browns this year, there's a problem.
Things have fallen off the rails.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
I'm just being honesty, Stephanie, to take it easy. Right now,
there's a full house of quarterbacks with the Cleveland Browns
right now. It's a tough place to be for him.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, roll call.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
I just the oblique injury also is more concerning to me.
He literally hurt himself throwing the football, not his arm,
not his elbow, his obliques, his abs, and he's more of.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
An ab Browler's trying to say he has a weak
core or something like that.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
I wasn't going to go there.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Not doing enough sit.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Ups, some get some mixing some planks. Yeah, some Chris planks.
Come on, do something with that, because the problem is
when you hurt yourself throwing the football, you can't even
test it out right now, right because you're afraid you're
going to aggravate it by doing the exact same motion.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
It'd be one thing if it was like, you know,
your left hand or something, which Jordan Love had, like
a left hand injury. They're like, all right, well he
can't hand the ball off. We'll go ahead and have
a procedure and get it taken care of. U's not
the biggest deal in the world. Sure, your obleaks is
literally everything. It's like when you have a back issue.
If you're talking about Matthew Stafford. You know you can
wake up one day and turn the wrong way and
throw all your back and be done. Your old bleak
can get up and twist one direction. You can make

(11:45):
it even worse. You can aggravate it. Yeah, alert, that's
a really serious jury. Yeah, exactly. If the old Steph
Curry shoes back in the day, but get up on
a bed and fall.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Down the people's champ. This is all we were talking
about last week. We're doing it again.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
We are a guy who's not even gonna play, didn't
hasn't plays, didn't play today, He's not playing tomorrow, not
playing next week, probably not playing again this year.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
That's how important Shador Sanders is for the movement. Man.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
You know, Adam's leading hype train. That's what it is.
Adam wants to see him. He thinks he's prime time.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
I told you my best friend growing up, Mike Tucker,
long suffering Cleveland Browns fane. He deserves some joy. He
has been living in the factory of sadness.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
From one of the headlines on the announcement of starting quarterback, okay, we.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Do have something, I guess from a real starting quarterback,
A guy who didn't play in this game tonight because
he should never have to play in a preseason game again.
That would be Patrick Mahomes, who a lot of people
are kind of piling on.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
This past week for some reason. Is why to call
him fat again?

Speaker 3 (12:44):
I wait, he's fat.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
That's what some Kansas City radio host had a couple
of weeks ago. It was right before training came started.
Patrick Mahomes had his shirt off. He was at a
party or something.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
And he was looking you know, a little, a little pudgy,
but yeah, like how Tom Brady looked, well like a
lot of quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Look, you know, quarterbacks generally don't look super cut and
super swollen. They do a lot of plyometrics and make
sure that they're pliable and they could bend and turn.
They're not out there just you know, hitting bench presses,
you know, five hundred times.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Tell Shador Sanders that I'm just saying, I Mahomes, I'm
not worried about his appearance in that way. No neither
am I. I'm wondering about mine. Now after he gets
called fat, it's like, wait a second, if they're calling
him fat, what am I?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
It was like, whoever that radio host was, You line
up and try to run a forty yard dash against
Patrick Mahomes and tell me who wins.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Good luck? Yeah, exactly, Well that fat gets his momentum
going forward, like it kind of snaps them forward like
a little rubber band, just like.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Well they old Andre Smith, remember the old offensive tackle
when he was running the forty yard dash with no
shirt and it looked like a lava lamp and people
were just mesmerized. They thought he actually ran like a
four to three when he actually ran like a six
to two, which he was just so mesmerized by him.
Like time, It's almost like time slowed down.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
I don't drop acid with a lava lamp anymore. I
that's that's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
But people think that Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs could
fall off this year. I want to record us saying
I think the La Chargers are gonna win the division.
I'm not backing off of that prediction.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Well, does that mean you have the Chiefs not even
making the playoffs unless I'm not that crazy?

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Okay, okay, okay, No, I do think there'll be a
wildcard team and they can go to the Super Bowl
to win the Super Bowl as a wildcard team. But
there are enough question marks. Number One, they went twelve
to er last season. Adam, did you know this? In
one score games.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
They twelve on the margins. They got very fortunate in
close ball games. That is not repeatable. That doesn't happen. Yeah,
that just doesn't happen. Now you can say maybe they're
gonna be a little bit improved this year and those
margins will widen. I don't know where's the improvement the
offensive line.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Sure, you drafted Simmons, great, he's a rookie who, by
the way, was injured when you drafted them, So you
don't even really know what you're gonna get out of them.
So is there really a giant improven on the offensive line,
one of their biggest weaknesses. I don't think so, that's
still kind of up in the air. Sure, you're gonna
have Xavier Worthy back for one more year. He's gonna
be a year better Rashi Rice, speaking of driving in
legal issues, He's gonna be suspended most likely at least

(14:59):
for the first couple of game of the season, or
excuse me, he won't be for the first couple of
games because, interestingly enough, the NFL is not going to
hold his disciplinary hearing into like week four. Huh, And
people are like, interesting, the Chiefs have all their first
four contests or nationally televised Marque opponents, and you have
one of their best offensive players not going to be
having his disciplinary hearing until after those games are played.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
As one of those games against the Raiders, so he
can pat his stats.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
I don't believe. So, No, how dare you?

Speaker 3 (15:24):
The Giants are in there though, all right, you said
Markey opponents.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, the New York Giants are in there.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
So I just think we should put things in perspective
a little bit before we throw dirt on the dynasty
that is, the Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Chief as strong, but go on.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
We over scrutinize the Chiefs more than anybody, and it's
because of how good they have been and they have
set the standard very high. But we talk about them
like they weren't in the super Bowl. I know they
got blown out. I know Mahomes threw a pick six
one of his worst games. Wow, was looking like far
of under pressure there.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
It was he was running for his life. It was
no different than the Buccaneer Super Bowl. I don't pin
that on Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
I don't either, but some I think there's some recency
bias going on. And that's the last thing they saw
with the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes, and that's why everybody's
so quick to say the dynasty's over. I'm not going there.
Patrick Mahomes is thirty or turning thirty. He hasn't had
any catastrophic injury. He didn't do his acl he didn't

(16:21):
do his achilles. He can still move out there when
he needs to. Because the offensive line is in turmoil,
He's fine. I know he didn't get a first place
vote in the MVP race last season.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Because it was ridiculous to me by the way it
was between.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Two guys, Lamar Jackson and Josh Allens split the votes
all of them.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I get it, and he should have despite the fact
that they were average offensively. The fact that they did
anything offensively at all last year was because of Patrick Mahomes.
My criticism of the Chiefs or skepticism of the Chiefs
because this coming season has nothing to do with him.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Well, you're being reasonable, talk about everybody.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Else, everything around him. That's the and I don't know
if they've improved enough around him. Look, they're still good
enough because Andy I try Sandy Reid the defensively. I
trust the Spagnolo. They still have Chris Jones, they re
signed Carlofcus. They're still gonna be very good. I think
the over under one wins for them this year is
eleven and a half. I could see them going over.
I'm probably because I picked the Charges to win the division.

(17:13):
I'm gonna take him under. But under is like what
ten wins? Okay, so they win ten games instead of
fifteen like they did last year or thirteen whatever it was,
and they don't win the division, their wildcard team and
still a strong Super Bowl contender.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
I know their margin for error was slim. I think
they were something like eleventh when it came to net
rating or points four points against. They won a lot
of close games to get by, and then they got
their teeth kicked in, like Steve Hartman wanted, dude Petri
Stoph Dakas one time by the Eagles in the Super Bowl.

(17:46):
I just think we're talking about a team that didn't
look great, and if they improve a little bit, well
they're still in the conversation of being one of the
elite teams even in the AFC.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
You're right, but there's other teams that can improve a
little bit too. Chargers have improved a little bit. I
think Denver's going to improve a little bit. Baltimore is
going to be hungry. Buffalo still has to get that
Kansas City monkey off their back. They're still knocking on
the door.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yes this is We're gonna give them, hey, as many.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
As it takes. How many chances did the Colts they
have to beat the Patriots before they finally did.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's fair, But my god, I don't know if being
up twenty one to three at the half like the
Colts were down to the Patriots. Yeah, it is the
way to go about it. I don't think that's how
you have to overcome your demons. I just I'm not
giving up on Patrick Mahomes yet or the Kansas City Chiefs.
I think they're going to figure things out with a
patchwork offensive line with enough weapons around him. And he

(18:40):
started so poorly last season. What the first month he
had eight touchdowns to nine interceptions. It's only up for
here from here right exactly outside of the Taylor's Swift
curse of coming on the podcast with Travis Kelcey, that
may bring things down a little bit, But they've overcome
the curse of her before. They've won like two super
Bowls have since they started. What the curse is over,

(19:01):
they'll first it over. There may be a curse going
on in the NBA right now, just.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
In pro sports, in sports, pro sports, college sports in
general right now.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
There is a problem with those prop bets and they're
making it far too easy to manipulate games. We'll talk
about that next right here on the Finavy Takeover of
Fox Sports Saturday. He's Kevin Figures. I'm out a mazel
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Speaker 3 (20:13):
Hit me up, Maya.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, you know we have another member of the Patrick
Mahomes fan club along with Adam all Right wearing his
Pat Mahomes t shirt over there.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Eloy from Compton got to us that follow Adame at
KFIG one, saying, come on, guys, this will be Mahomes'
best season yet. He will finally have Worthy, Hollywood and
Rice together on the field at the same time. And
not to mention a rejuvenated Travis Kelcey. Why is why
is the rejuvenated exactly because the year old is the
off season? OK, guys, come back fresh.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I guess he did slim down a little bit.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
Good?

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Oh did he?

Speaker 2 (20:44):
That's such what I heard.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
So he slimmed down and Mahomes got fat.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
That's according to one Kansas City radio host.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, Eloyd does say that Mahomes is thirty five and
five against the AFC West in his career and he
doesn't see that changing. Here's the thing. His numbers were
down the last two years. You can also explain it
away because he lost a lot of skill position guys
through free agency or because of injuries. And last season
in particular, the offensive line wasn't tatters.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Again, I'm not spelling the demise of the Kansas City
Chiefs overall. I'm not saying they're going to fall off
the face of the earth and win four games I'm
just saying there are teams in the AFC and the
AFC West in particular, that have gained some ground, and
I do think the Chargers and the Broncos to a
certain degree are going to push Kansas City in the
AFC West. I still believe the Kansas City Chiefs are
going to make the postseason. I believe they're going to

(21:33):
be a wildcard team, and I believe they're going to
be a Super Bowl contender coming out of the wildcard round.
So I'm not saying that there are going to be
some terrible organization to fall off the face of the earth.
I'm just saying, like, hey, there's other teams planning too,
and that there might be a couple of cracks in
the foundation. I'm not saying it's collapsing on them.

Speaker 9 (21:47):
All.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
That sounds very rational, very reasonable. I'm very sensible. I'm
also a Raider fan, so they might have something to
do with it. There it is, That's what I was looking.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Forsure, all right, get to it.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
Look.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Michael Porter Junior, formerly of the Denver Nuggets, now now
with the Brooklyn Nets, has been very outspoken as of late.
He's really been firing up the podcast he's doing his rounds.
I almost feel like they had a muzzle on him
in Denver and now he's fully unleashed and he can
say whatever he wants because he's doing a lot of talking.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
He sure is it's got a lot of opinions about
a lot of things and thinks you probably keep to himself.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Including something he's very close to akin to that would
be gambling. He spoke about this recently on a podcast.
Here was Michael Porter Junior on One Night with Steiny.

Speaker 10 (22:38):
You get mad at these dudes like they do the
sports betting, but think about it, if you could get
all your homies rich by telling him, Yo, ten thousand
dollars I'm under. You know this one game, I'm gonna
act like I got an injury and I'm gonna sit out.
I'm gonna come out after three minutes and they all
get a little bad because you did a one game
like that is so not okay. But some people probably

(22:59):
think like that. They come from nothing and all their
homies have nothing, and they're like, bro, if I if
I come out of this game after three minutes and
y'all all hit on my under, we're all getting a
little bad, you know, what I mean. And I obviously
my brother went through his situation. You know, Malik Beasley's
going through a situation roun now Terry Rozier was in
some hot water. But the whole sports gambling like entity, Bro,

(23:22):
it's it's it's bad, and it's it's only gonna get worse. Bro,
Like we we really do get death threats.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Okay, Tim down, he's on the phone for you, is it?

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Because that would be timely. This part where he's like
making it sound like they're robbing from the rich and
giving to the poor, and that's all they're doing and
giving back to their friends. And that's why guys are gambling.
That didn't sound that bad. It's still illegal, it's still
completely wrong, but you understand it though for guys who

(23:51):
do come from nothing, I like it.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I certainly understand the argument behind it.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Here's my problem. That has nothing to do with his brother.
John say Porter got busted. He got busted for fixing
games to pay off of gambling debts. He wasn't doing
it to help out his grammar or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
He was doing it to help himself well, and I
think he acknowledged that in the interview too. But he's saying.
This is where it leans into the final part of
his comment when he says it's only going to get
worse because gambling was legalized on a national level or
on a national level back in twenty eighteen. Since then,
I found ten ten instances of players who have been

(24:32):
suspended or kicked out of a league, whether it's Major
League soccer, the NFL, college football has had a lot
of things come down on guys for gambling on their team,
gambling on just their sport, which they're not supposed to do.
I mean, it's only been legal for a few years
and there's been multiple instances of it happening.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Just ten still seems low. I'll take the over.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Ten that we know about is the issue, right, That's
the thing.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
I So, first of all, I met MPJA one time,
and by met, I mean I was outside of Crypto.
It wasn't Staples, it was Crypto. A few years ago
before the Lakers were complaining about always getting beat by
the Denver Nuggets, the Clippers also lost like eight straight
regular season games to them. Michael Porter Junior, for some reason,
didn't get on the team bus. I'm walking back to
the parking lot to my car I walk right by him.

(25:20):
They just wiped the floor at the Clippers and I go, hey,
good game, Michael. You know what I got back?

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Nothing? Eh, crickets. Oh, he actually gave you a guttural sound.
I gave you that I.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Thought was the Geico Caveman Zeno man or something like.
What what was that? That's all I got? I said,
good game, Michael. He had to know I was obviously
working for the Clippers. I was all suited and booted.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
But and I know, look, leaks try to put certain
protections in to make sure these things don't happen, and
pretty severe bands like there was a Padres player a
couple of years ago who was banned from baseball because
he bet against the Padres on the Padres I believe
Calvin Ritley. We talked about earlier bet on NFL games
when he was out injured and he got suspended for
an entire season. The problem is, I mean, it's no

(26:04):
different than the criminal justice system. People know how severe
the consequences offer certain crimes they commit, but they still
do it, and they do it because they think they
can get away with it. So I don't know if
anything can be punitive enough to stop this from happening.
For someone who's desperate enough and someone who thinks they're
clever enough to.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Be able to get away with it, well, Adam Silver
through the book at his brother Johntay Porter. But I
can't give much credit for that. What's the downside of
banning a two way G League player from the league?
Oh no, I'm not gonna watch the NBA anymore. My
favorite player, Johntay Porter is gone. Like there's he did

(26:43):
that to send a message to everybody else, right, But
let me tell you, if somebody major got busted, I
don't know if they'd be banned for life immediately.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
So if this was a multi time MVP Finals MVP,
you don't think that Adam Silver would have the balls
to banned him for life from the league.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
So, I mean, by law says the penalty for such
a fence shall be within the absolute and sole discretion
of the Commissioner evening commissioner, and may include a fine, suspension, expulsion,
and or perpetual disqualification from further association with the Association

(27:21):
or any of its members.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Pretty vague, intentionally vague, I would say, So, I don't
think the NFL policy is that. I think it's pretty
clear cut. The NFL is had. I mean they are
multiple teams, the Indianapolis coul Set, multiple players at one
point in time. They're all caught up into gambling, gambling
on stats, are gambling on NFL games, and they all
got banned for a season. I think a couple of
them got banned for their entire careers. So there's a

(27:45):
precedent for this happening. Well, the Lions is happened with
the Detroit Lions, I think a couple of years too,
where they would play that on the line. These are
Lions players, Oh, we're betting on NFL games and they
all serve heavy suspensions. So I think it's kind of
clear cut across the board when it comes to the NFL.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Well, there's a couple guys the NBA has recently dealt
with and somebody else who is still under investigation. One
of them, Michael Porter Junior brought up in that SoundBite,
that would be Terry Rozier. He's being investigated for a
game in twenty twenty three where he left a game
early and this is what his brother did. He left
games early. So the Unders would all hit under points

(28:23):
under rebounds under assists and guys would bet two thousand
dollars and parlay it. So if all these hit unders,
they'd win eighty thousand. They actually got a watt. They
got away with that, they won it, and then as
compulsive gamblers do, they go right back, they double down.
Then they bet eighty grand to win like two million.

(28:44):
It worked, but it red flagged the situation. Then they
looked into it, why are people betting on this kind
of obscure player, And that's how they ended up figuring
things out through phone records and everything.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
So the thing is, if it's not Terry Rogier, if
it's not a Johntay Porter, if it's not someone Maleikue Beasley.
Let's say, if it's someone of note, I'm not gonna
name anybody specifically, well, let's just say star player ex
star player. Why and all this money on these prop
bets are coming in and over anunders, you don't think
that it would be a big red flag because oh,
you bet the over and under on this guy.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Anyway, if it's Lebron James or somebody like that, if
it's somebody who's a top fifty player in the league,
it's not going to look as suspicious. The irregularities aren't
going to be there. That's what they were seeing, That's
what they were figuring out, and that's how they caught
these guys and that's why they're wondering about Terry Rozier.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, I don't know if a star player would really
need to do this, So the chances of one of
them getting caught up in something like this, I think
is extremely low. But I do think it would set
a great example if and when that were to happen,
If an Adam Silver were to say, you know what,
this is setting an example not having a guy that
nobody's ever heard of benning him from the league, who
gives a rip anyway, So the best way to say

(29:56):
an example is, you know what, never I thought that
I would you give a nod to you know, major
League Baseball and anything that they do. But you know,
they banned Pete Rose, who was a he was a
star player, he was retired obviously, he was a manager
at the time that he got banned from baseball for
betting on games with the Reds that they participated in,
and they stuck to it until this year after he
died and rob Manferd was like, you know, what's the

(30:18):
time is gone. He's gone. Now we'll let him in.
It's like, is that how he put it? I mean
it's very delicate. He put it a little more, you
know it is.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, it is curious the timing of it. Now they
finally accept him in.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Well, he admitted it. He was like, you know, the
time has passed. He's no longer here.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
He tried to make amends towards the very end of it.
Now that he's no longer here, we're not gonna hold
it against him. We're not gonna hold it against the
Black Sox guys. So we're allowing some of those guys in. Now.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Let me give you a scenario here, because I mentioned
Terry Rozier. He's off the hook, he's in the clear.
He's been investigated, they found no wrongdoing. But Malik Beasley
is a much more interesting case because it's ongoing right now,
and it's very recent.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
And you got a couple of things going on right now.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
He was about to get forty two million dollars from
the Detroit Pistons. He was offered a three year deal
for forty two million that got put on ice. They
still have a roster spot open.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Is that why he can't pay his rent?

Speaker 3 (31:17):
This is an issue and you start to put these
things together and connect gods, It's like, wait a second.
Professional athletes are supposed to go broke five years after
they leave the league, not while they're still in it.
He got evicted from his apartment. So if you're looking
for motive, if you're looking for a guy who's in
dire straits, Malik Beasley who last season also just had

(31:38):
his best year and hit over three hundred three pointers,
Kevin he hit the eighth most three pointers ever in
a regular season.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Wow, it was crazy impressive.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
He was that good. But they're investigating one game that
was having some suspicious betting going on. You tell me
if you're wondering about this too. It happened January thirty,
first of twenty four. He's still with Milwaukee. They're going
back to Portland with Damian Lillard Dame Dalla back in
Portland for the first time. Here's what was interesting and

(32:10):
what the Fed's picked up on. There was a prop
bet from Eligue Beasley over under two and a half rebounds.
The line moved from plus one twenty, so you bet
one hundred to win one twenty right to minus two fifty,
So you bet two fifty to win one hundred because
everyone kept betting on it, so they moved the line
that much. Here's the crazy part. Everyone bet that it

(32:33):
would hit the under because that's an easier thing to control, absolutely,
because you might not be able to get twenty points,
you might not be able to get ten rebounds, but
you can control just dogging it out there. Like Michael Barner, Junior's.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Brother was, he can always acknowledge it as a guard,
you know, who just stands on the outside and shoots like, Oh,
I'm gonna get two three rebounds. Of course not.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Well, here's a plot twist for you. It was two
and a half rebounds. Guess how many he got in
that game? Zero six?

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Oh, and it.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Looked like he was crashing the glass hard. Yet this
is the game they're investigating, and it looks like he
don't do anything wrong rapping up. Yeah, he went out
there and balled out, So what's the problem here. I
think if it's just this one game, he'll end up
being okay. Whether or not he actually gets that contract
to forty two million or gets his apartment back, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Well, the greater question as we get ready to check
out here is I don't really know what these leagues
can do to curb this. Because I will agree with
MPJA on this, I don't think this is going away.
As it's legal in many states, it's going to continue
to get legalized in many more states.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Hey, let's get a team in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Now hard to acknowledge that every like it's legal for
everybody else but you, So it's really hard to look.
I can understand that cognitively. I can understand if I
play in an NBA game, I can't bet on myself.
I can't bet on my sport because I have inside information.
But it's really hard to deny that urge if you
know you have that inside information, and especially if you
suspect that you're not going to be able to get caught.
So I don't really know how there's going to be

(33:55):
a way that any of these leagues can really slow
this down.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Somebody who did get caught with just a slap on
the wrist today would be the University of Michigan. We'll
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Speaker 2 (34:38):
It's Kevin Figures Adam Olson here on Fox Sports Saturday.
The Michigan Wolverines had their punishment levied or on Friday,
Hey Bubb and many people thought, specifically Ohio State fans,
not much of a punishment, soft giant slap on the wrist.
They say, so, look, it doesn't really, it doesn't really,
It doesn't at all effects Michigan on the field, no
postseason bands, They're not losing the scholarships. As far as

(35:01):
on field product. That doesn't really hurt them at all,
unless you consider Sharon Moore, the head coach, being suspended
one additional game from the two he was already going
to be suspended for for this season anyway.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Even those two games bother me.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Well, the issue with that is they picked the games
away suspended.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
For against the weakest opponents. Correct, Why isn't he suspended
against Oklahoma?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
That's a good question. Oh, it's his alma mater and
he can go back, or he coached there previously. What
is That's not how this works. If you're suspended for
three games, you're suspended for the first three games.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
This ain't a velvet hammer. This is like styrofoam. This
is nothing.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
The most punitive are the ten percent penalty, ten percent
of their football revenue, ten percent of their scholarship budget,
and I would say most importantly, one hundred percent of
their potential postseason revenue this season and next season are
all going to be taken away from the University of Michigan.
So I will say it's not going to show itself
on the field for the things that we care about
as fans, But for the athletic department, which from what

(35:53):
I understand, is already operating at a deficit, this is
going to hurt them a little bit. Really, losing ten
percent of football Okay, fine, they can probably deep into
their big deep into their pocket of However, many billions
of dollars of endowment from the non athletic department and
get some money and put it in there like most
of these schools too. Absolutely, But this is a big
reason why a lot of schools say, like, oh, it's

(36:13):
so important that we make a bowl game, even if
it's the toilet Bowl, because we get millions of dollars
for that, and that goes towards the athletic department. So
if Michigan makes a deep run into the postseason, or
even if the Big Ten independent of Michigan makes a
deep run in the college Football playoff, a share of
that money that they will pocket will not go to them.
So it does hurt them at least a little bit financially,
but on the field, there's no effect whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
I saw this from Dennis Dodd, and I don't know
if this math checks out or not because I saw
people in his comments correcting him community notes. But he
made it sound like they're not losing more than like
a hundredth of a percent of the school's total endowment.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Oh yeah, I mean athletic departments for all these schools,
especially schools like Michigan. I mean the athletic department in general,
even talking about hundreds of millions of dollars is a
drop in a bucket. So these are billion dollar industries,
these stuff, you know, industries of higher education.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Donors will come in, they'll handle it right. Michigan will
be flushed with cash. I think the problem everybody has
is is this really gonna deter anybody else from doing
what they did?

Speaker 2 (37:20):
It shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
It seems like the punishment's worth the crime in this case.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Like I do understand the NCAA's ruling saying like, we
didn't take any wins away because the players at least
were led to believe the players knew nothing about any
of this. And usually when they're talking about vacating victories,
usually it's about a player taking impermissible benefits. You're playing
with an eligible player, and if a player's ineligible, he
would have direct influence on the game. I would argue, yeah,
like a Reggie Bush situation. Now, I would argue that

(37:45):
the coaches giving information to players based on the premise
that they stole signs and had insight that they otherwise
would not pus gives those players an advantage. And oh,
by the way, this signce stealing scandal allegedly started in
twenty twenty one, which happened to be the mary first
year that Jim Harball and Michigan got on this run
of winning three straight Big Ten championships that culminated with

(38:05):
a national championship in twenty twenty three. Jim Harball, people
don't remember after the COVID season, they only played six games.
He restructured his contract and was on the verge of
getting fired. And had he not restructured his contract because
they had been performing so poorly, namely not being able
to beat Ohio State, he was on his way out
the door. All of a sudden twenty twenty one, here
comes Connor Stallions, here comes to sign stealing scandal, and

(38:26):
now all of a sudden, they're averaging eleven wins a year,
making the playoff and winning a championship.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Now they said that it didn't affect those later games
in that season when they won to eventually beat the
Washington Huskies, because it.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Was snuffed out I think week five or six of
that year, I believe, and the Big.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Ten commissioner actually suspended Jim Harball. This was probably the
toughest penalty for some of their biggest games.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
And the belief is He only did it because he
received pressure from a lot of other athletic directors and
coaches within the Big Ten, many of whom kind of
had a suspicion that Michigan was doing some funny business
the last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Anyway, I don't know if the penalty is enough to
deter other teams, and I know I don't like the
idea of punishing kids who had nothing to do with it.
I also just don't like the idea of, ah, you
got to write a check to take care of this.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
The issue is, so even if you go back and
try to vacate wins and all that, we all saw
what happened on the field, Like, are we going to
take back what USC dits Oklahoma and the Orange Bowl
because of the official rule books that had got taken away.
We saw what happened.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
No, they destroyed them. I'm fine with not vacating wins
without taking away titles. I'm good with that. But I
do wonder if sometimes you got to go full metal
jacket with it and have that collective punishment policy like
they had when Gomer Pyle was screwing things up for
everybody else, so they had to run gassers or whatever
it was, and eventually ed with them hitting them with

(39:48):
soap bars later that night, like, well.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
We saw all that in for the rest of them.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Okay, maybe not the best example there, but sometimes which
pile over the edge, people get a little little bit
of a collective punishment because of one individual. Because it's
a team sport. One guy screws up, you all gotta
pay sometimes. I don't know, I just think it has
to be stiffer in this well, especially when it's the
people at the highest level.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
The head coach show calls for Jim Harball, which doesn't
matter he's in the NFL show calls us minor show
calls for Sharon Moore and obviously Kyler Stanions he's out
the door. Kevin figures Adam Aulston here on Fox Sports Saturday.
Coming up on the other side, we'll get into the
NFL and quarterback rankings, the quarterback tiers on FSR.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
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Speaker 2 (40:31):
That's right back again, Fox Sports Saturday. Kevin figures Adam Alslin.
Hit us up on x at K fig one is
where you can find me. You can find Adam at
follow Adam a coming up later this hour. We got
a special guest coming up with Week zero of the
college football season start next weekend Adam.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
A Tier one broadcaster, you could say, so you know
it's not us Noah Eagle, oh the young Goat as
I have branded him, somebody I worked with for four
seasons on the Clippers broadcast. Now you see him on NBCIX,
on Netflix, on Nickelodeon because ubiquitous. Yeah, he's everywhere, and

(41:06):
yes he will be on NBC when the NBA returns
to NBC this fall.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Gotta spread those wings. I guess live up to the name.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
He's left the nests. All right, that's unbelievable. All right,
we can stop with the fund So what.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Should get to that later this hour? But first off,
in this particular hour, we want to talk about the
much talked about Mike Sando quarterback tiers list that was
released earlier this week.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
It's got people hot.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah yeah. It had a lot of debate Tier one, two, three, four,
and then one player in tier five, which I found interesting,
which if there's gonna be one player in tier five,
should that even exist at that point?

Speaker 3 (41:39):
That's kind of cruel. You're kind of leaving him out
there on his Island. Guy's so bad. He's in a
tier of his own, but not in a good way.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
I mean, I'm not the biggest fan of Kenny pick
It either, but I don't know if you have to
leave the guy hanging out to dry like that in
tier five. But I guess my big question to you,
Adam Alson, is if we start, I guess in tier
one and maybe combined with tier two, anybody seem out
of place for you?

Speaker 3 (41:59):
I'll say this one. You got Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow,
Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. Nobody's gonna bat night any of
those guys being there, they're all expected.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Oh you stopped. There's one left. I know.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
That's the one guy that I raised a little bit
of an eyebrow with. That would be stat Padford. I
mean Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
That's why I got Rob Parker here on FSI.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
I might be sitting in his chair. He took over
my body all of a sudden. I'm having an out
of body experience here at FSR. Matthew Stafford being in
tier one now he's fifth in tier one. He's behind
all those guys I mentioned. I think some of this
just like I mentioned earlier with recency bias on Patrick
Mahomes is also recency bias with Matthew Stafford. He had

(42:43):
an all time playoff game against the eventual Super Bowl
champions in the Philadelphia Eagles that people will not forget
about because of the snow, because of the conditions, because
he bawled out. You let him hang like Justin Turner,
like he was. He was incredible. Three for over three
hundred yards, two touchdowns, zero picks, was under a ton

(43:04):
of pressure, and there was some controversy at the end
where I think he was looking for Puka who may
have been held ball flew out of bounds. Rams lose,
Eagles go on to win the Super Bowl and they
destroy the Chiefs while the Rams game was much more competitive.
Is that influencing people's rating of Matthew Stafford now at
the age of thirty seven.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Well, maybe I'll mean the way I look at this
and when I get to my I guess hot take
criticism of this list coming up here in a couple
of minutes. I look at the criteria that's being used
and Mike Sandal by the way of the athletic, who
does a great job. He polled fifty executives in coaches.
So this is not his opinion. This is the opinion
of the people who work in the industry on a
day to day basis and evaluate talent.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
The methodology here is really strong.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, So a Tier one quarterback carries his team each week,
the team wins because of him, expertly handles pure passing
situations and has no real holes in his game. I
don't know if I can say that one hundred percent
about Matthew Stafford at this point in time. One thing
I'll say is if there is a game here or there,
for four or five games a year where you need
him to throw forty times forty times, he can win.

(44:06):
But I don't know if he can do that consistently.
If this was eight years ago, I might say that
about him. But I think matt Stafford now needs a
little bit of help. He needs a running game, he
needs a defense. I don't know if he can put
a team on his back, literally because his back is
broken right now, so pun fully intended, he just doesn't
have that right now. He's a good quarterback, and I
think maybe he's strattling the line between Tier one and
Tier two. But maybe you could convince me and talk

(44:28):
me into Tier one. But for me, Matt see Stafford
at this point in his career is a Tier two quarterback,
not a Tier one.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
I could put him at the top or near the
top of Tier two and feel really good about it.
I just don't understand he's not at that level with
those quarterbacks who all the guys in front of him
are in their prime right have one MVPs some of
them all.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
But Joe Burrow, who I mean is knocking on the door,
got to a Super Bowl. I mean, he's right there.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
He's number two on this list, and some would make
the argument he is the best quarterback in the NFL.
The defense is the problem there in Sincy. I don't
see him as being one of the peers with those guys.
But that's okay. He's good, just very good, and the
Rams without him they might not make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
So that I will give you so the part of
the criteria where he says the team wins because of him.
If Jimmy Garoppolo is the starting quarterback for seventeen weeks
for the Rams this year, uh oh, the ceiling is
much lower, to say the least for the Rams versus
Matthew Stafford. So for that reason alone is why I
can maybe bend a little bit and say, okay, you
can kind of put him in Tier one.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
It's like if I try to fit into a dollhouse,
the ceiling is that low.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Exactly. Now here's my issue from Tier two the defending
Super Bowl champion Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts a Tier two quarterback,
can carry his teams sometimes but not consistently, can hander
pure passing situations in doses, or possesses other dimensions that
are special enough to elevate him above Tier three. Now, maybe,
if you want to argue he possesses the skill set

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with his legs to be able to beat you, the
elevate him out of Tier three because he's not a
great passer. Maybe I don't think so, because the Tier
three criteria is basically a guy who needs help from
his defense and help from his running game, and based
on those things elevates his individual play and can help
you win, which is basically what Jalen Hurts did. And
if you go back to the first four games of

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last season, when Jalen Hurts did draw back and throw
the ball a lot, it did not yield positive results
for the Eagles. It wasn't until they leaned more into
Sakuon Barkley and ran the ball more and took the
ball out of his hands that they actually started to
flourish offensive on.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
So this is interesting. I thought we were on opposite
sides here, but I guess we're fully aligned. You think
he's rated too high, being the ninth ranked quarterback overall
here and being in Tier two, you think he should
be in Tier three.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
I will make him. I will put him at the
top of Tier three, and I would not say he's
a Tier two quarterback based on this criteria.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
No, I think he's too high in this way. I
think he's very situational. I think the circumstances have to
be just right. He's not a plug and play guy,
and that's no disrespect. He's perfectly suited for what the
Philadelphia Eagles do, where he can show off how dynamic
he can be. But as you mentioned, he needs that
running game, he needs a strong defense, and you look.

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I mean, he almost had as many rushing touchdowns last
season thanks to the tush push as he did passing touchdowns.
I don't think he can carry you. I don't think
he can throw you to victory. I don't think he's
gonna go, hey, we're down by twenty when you do
go for three hundred and fifty yards in this ball game.
He's not built like that. It's just different. It doesn't
mean he's a bad quarterback, but there is part of

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his game that can feel a little gimmicky to me.
The touch push is gimmicky. They almost outlawed it. You
have to acknowledge that Usuly I understand everybody else can
do it. Nobody can do it like they can, so
that's fair to leave it in there. But I just
don't know. It's interesting. He was actually rated higher on
this list I heard in twenty twenty two when they

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lost the Super Bowl to the Chiefs, based upon people
thinking projecting out that he's going to get better as
a pass and now that you're seeing that's not happening,
he's actually lower ninth on the QB list here.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Yeah, is there right anybody else here that stands out?
Because honestly, the way the tiers shakeout after that, I
really don't have much of an issue with anyone. I
kind of went back and forth on brock party, but
I do think brock Party. I do think he's Tier two.
I've seen him in games where he's had to stand
back there and throw the ball a lot and be effective.
Now he's someone who is in the right offensive system
with the right offensive talent, which I think is going

(48:26):
to be interesting this year considering where the forty nine
ers are, how top heavy they are losing Deebo, Samuel Juwan,
Jennings's contract situation, Brandon Ayuk is going to be out
at least until week six, So now we're going to
see exactly how elite quote unquote brock Party actually is.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
He's going to be asked to elevate guys around him
much more than he ever has. He is the last
guy in tier two. He's number fourteen on this quarterback list.
I actually think Kevin he could be maybe a little
bit higher, just because, like you said, he has some
intangibles and has made a lot of winning throws. When
they went to the Super Bowl almost outdueled Patrick Mahomes,

(49:02):
I know in overtime he missed on a throw that
he wishes he had back, just like Garoppolo did against
KC like three years before that, And there's some similarities
between those two guys. But Rock Party is better and
he was top five in MVP voting in twenty twenty three,
so I think there's more to his game and it's
less situational or he has to have this level of

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talent around him. I believe he can scale up a
little bit. I think he is going to have a
good season. He's still I think twenty five or twenty
six years of age. Can you win a game on
his arm? Maybe here or there?

Speaker 2 (49:35):
I think you can. I don't think that's, you know,
something that that can't happen. We'll find out soon and
I think it's gonna be really interesting. But that's one
guy I might move up just a little bit now.
Jordan Love I would say has much higher ceiling than him.
But I don't know if he's proven more than Brock
Purdy at this point. No, he's not.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
He's right in front of him Dak Prescott. You know,
if anything, we've gotten a lot of tape on Dak
Prescott and it ain't pretty well, especially in games that matter.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
I'll put it that way.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yeah, he's two slots ahead of Rock Party. I might
put Brock ahead of him, especially I know Brock Party
just got paid now too. I was gonna say when
the contract that Dak has, but I just think there's
more there to tap into. We kind of know Dak
Prescott's a bit of a finished product.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Now Rock Party Proud Iowa State cyclone and they kick
off Week zero against Kansas State, coming up next weekend
and coming up next year. On Fox Sports Saturday, we'll
talk college football, among other things with a great Noay
Eagle of NBC Sports. That's Fox Sports Saturday with Kevin
Figures and Adam Auslin. Maybe Mama's Mama's a good one there,
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(50:35):
Fox Sports Radios, Kevin Figures, Adam Alstom with you guys
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we've been talking a lot of football tonight this morning,
depending on where you may be listening across the Fox
Sports Radio network and coming up here right now, we

(50:57):
have one of the voices of college football, oh the
NFL in preseason and the regular season. Also the return
of the NBA on NBC coming up this fall as well.
Let's get to it at.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Him Alan dranking Dud, Thank.

Speaker 10 (51:11):
You, Donny.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
BA. BA Basketball with Noah come in this fall back
on NBC. Yes, Nostalgian merchants from the nineties rejoice as
round Ball Rock is back on the Peacock on NBC.
And speaking of back, it's the cock of the lock,
the man who will be calling all the games, and
I mean all of them, whether on the hardwood or

(51:36):
on the field right now for the NFL preseason. He's
coming back of course, also of the Big Ten Saturday Night.
Not to mention you've seen him on Netflix for Christmas
Day NFL games with Queen Bee and on Nickelodeon's NFL
Games with the King of the c King Neptune and
all the SpongeBob characters. It's the return of the young goat.
Noah Eagle back now on the f and a takeover

(51:57):
of Fox Sports Radio. Noah, how are we doing with
my friend?

Speaker 6 (52:01):
Yeah, Adam, I'm just glad that you committed, because I
every time I hear round Ball Rock, I think Tim
Robinson has completely skewed my viewpoint and all I want to.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Do is back getball.

Speaker 6 (52:13):
So it's going to be hard, I think when I
actually have to be professional and I can't do that
during the intros of our games. But excited that we
can do it now and we can get ready for
some fantastic seasons ahead. Appreciate you guys having me on.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
We'll get into the NBA in just a little bit here,
but you're on the call later today for the Battle
of LA. It's a preseason edition Chargers and Rams. You know,
we talked about it a little bit last Friday night,
but it feels like nationally the Rashaun Slater news has
flown a little bit under the radar. Just how backbreaking
that could be of a blow to the Chargers. Is

(52:46):
Jim Harbaugh going to be able to shuffle things around
to overcome this, Yeah, I think.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
That's why you have depth.

Speaker 6 (52:51):
And the Chargers made sure that they heft their death.
I think that's the key word in all of this,
because they could have made some decisions and try to
shed some salary to maybe go after some of these
big weapons that are available, but instead decided to keep
guys like Jamari Sallyre on the roster, making sure that
they could retain Trey Pipkins, and so now you've got
a top five pick last year and Joe all too.

(53:13):
Offensive coordinator Greg Roman has gone on record and he
told us as well that he is saying, hands down,
this season all pro.

Speaker 5 (53:20):
He's that level. We talked to Joe this week.

Speaker 6 (53:23):
You can tell the maturity is different, his body is different.
And the biggest thing he said is last year, going
into his rookie year, there was so much just getting
ready for the combine, getting ready for the pre draft process,
and it cuts out months of work of what you
actually want to do on the field. And so he
feels he's much more prepared and he's going back to

(53:43):
his natural position of left tackle, which is what he
played his entire career at Notre Dame. And Trey Pipkins
has proven to be a starting caliber tackle in the NFL.
And then you look at the rest of the offensive line.
You signed Mackay Beckt into a two year deal coming
off a Super Bowl victory with the Eagles last year,
really flourished in his new position at guard over the.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
Last year plus.

Speaker 6 (54:03):
Dian Johnson was a first round pick in twenty twenty
two for a reason, and Bradley Boseman is as cerebral
as it comes at the center position. So to me,
they still have the depth. Sure, and everybody's been honest.
You can't just replace a guy like Rashaun Slater, who's
arguably at his peak, the best left tackle, if not
at minimum top three in the NFL. But with all

(54:25):
and then everybody else that they at least retain on
that depth part of the offensive line. They feel comfortable
with what they're going to roll out Week one.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
The great no Ego joining us here on Fox Sports Saturday,
Kevin figures Adam Alson with you to stick with the
Charges for one more before we get to the big
ten coming up this season. I've been on record as
saying that I think the Charges are going to unseat
the Chiefs in the AFC West this year, and people
have called me crazy. I even said that after the
injury to Rashaun Slater. What is your outlook on the
AFC West this year? Knowing that you're in year two

(54:54):
with Sean Payton and Bo Nicks there, people are high
on them, the Raiders turning things around potentially with Pete Carroll.
We know where the charges are. Jim Harball and obviously
the King of the king of the roost has been
the chiefs for the last decade. How do you see
the AFC West shaking out there? Noah, you're crazy.

Speaker 6 (55:08):
No you're not. You're very much a sane human being.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
I would tell you that.

Speaker 6 (55:13):
This division and the NFC North to me are the
most intriguing because of the depth of the division, and
really it feels like it's up for grabs. And again
you can make that exact argument. Well, nobody's been able
to dethrone Kansas City for a long time, but it
just feels like now all four teams are on at
least a fairly similar plane with what Vegas has done

(55:34):
getting Gino Smith and Pete Carroll in there.

Speaker 5 (55:36):
And we've seen obviously.

Speaker 6 (55:38):
What they're capable of together from a couple of years
ago in Seattle, and I'm curious as to what the
year two Bone Knicks experience will look like in Denver.
But we know Sean Payton is an absolute mastermind offensively,
and we saw what he did with him as a
rookie last year. Their defense somehow might have even gotten
better with the pieces that they added, and the offense

(55:58):
should in theory take another step forward. He's got a
brand new rookie running back that I think Sean Payton
won't stop talking about, and that's usually a good sign.
But the Chargers feel like they've got all the pieces
as well. And what we've seen through his coaching career
is year two with Jim Harbaugh, they take a step
and look. Year one in San Francisco, they went to
the NFC Championship Game.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
But year two they went to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (56:21):
And I think that's where everybody here in Los Angeles feels, Okay,
it's Harbaugh. He's got his full fingerprints on it. He
has all his players. Now, these are the guys that
he has hand picked along with GM Joe Hortiz, and
you give him a lot of credit and the moves
similar to what they've done now in the last year
of trading Keenan Allen for a fourth round pick that

(56:42):
turned into Lad McConkie and Targeme Still, and then bringing
back Keenan Allen.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
For nothing on a one year deal this year.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
And you've got these two guys and Alan mcconkee who
get opened so quickly off the line that you combine
that with your rookie first round take amaro On Hampton
one of your key free agent acquisitions in Najie Harris
is a one to two punch out of the backfield.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
An offensive line has mentioned.

Speaker 6 (57:07):
Even without Slater that's going to be in the top
echelon of the NFL.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
You bring in.

Speaker 6 (57:13):
Tyler Conklin at tight end, You draft a young tight
end in Aronde Gatsdon, who they have high hopes for.
Two rookie wide receivers that have really outperformed expectations, certainly
KeAndre Lambert Smith so far through this preseason in training camp,
it just feels like they've got everything offensively and defensively.
I think Jesse Mintor the defensive coordinator, is a name
that a lot of people are going to be hearing

(57:34):
for a long time because at some point, very soon
he's going.

Speaker 5 (57:37):
To get a head coaching job.

Speaker 6 (57:38):
He's that level of brain and more than anything, he's.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
That level leader.

Speaker 6 (57:42):
And you see it and I think now it's time
for third year players to really step up and become stars,
and that's what they expect. Dayon Henley had a career
year last year. He could be even better this year.
Two Lee Twoy below two could have a chance now
with Joey Bosover in Buffalo to explode and really become
a how whold name And it's a lot of syllables
for people in households to have to name, but they'll

(58:04):
be ready when the time comes. So it's an exciting
time for the Chargers. But as mentioned, division stuff and
Patrick Mahomes still exists, so that is a difficult task
for anybody.

Speaker 10 (58:15):
No.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
You go on the call later today with Dan Fouts
for Chargers and Rams in Los Angeles. One last question
for you regarding the NFL here in Noah. Matt Stafford.
It sounded like he worked out last week, there were
no limitations on his throes, but feels like he's regressed
a little bit now and he's going to do another
workout on Saturday. How long do you anticipate Matt Stafford
being out here?

Speaker 6 (58:36):
Yeah, I don't know, and I think that's kind of
the concern right now surrounding the Rams. Obviously, when Stafford
is there and Stafford's healthy, with the defense that they
put forward last year and now adding what they did
with DeVante Adams coming in offensively, there's a reason to
believe that this team is going to run away.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
With their division this year.

Speaker 6 (58:54):
If everything's in place, but if Stafford's not healthy, and
now you've got to wonder, first of all, Jimmy g
he hasn't even been healthy himself. Are you going to
be Stephan Bennett football team out there? It's a tough
proposition for a team that, in theory, should run away
with their division. Now we don't know what the Niners
are going to look like this year, so that is
a big question mark. And if the Niners can get

(59:16):
back to what we're accustomed to seeing out of San Francisco,
that changes things. But the Rams are sitting pretty well
right now if Stafford is a good go, but it's
just a question mark, and I think that's obviously reason
for pause. At the same time, we've seen Matt Stafford
play through event's pain. We've seen how gritty and tough

(59:36):
he is and how great he can be even when
he's nowhere near one hundred percent. So knowing him, he's
going to do whatever it takes to get back there
and make sure he's ready to rock for Week one.
It's just you can't bank on anything at this point,
and I think that's the concern, whether you're a Rams fan,
whether you're a part of the organization. So It's a
wait and see game, which is never where you want

(59:56):
to be at this stage of the offseason.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
So, Noah, you guys first brought cast for the Big
Ten on NBC this year. I believe you have Illinois,
who's gotten a lot of hype so far this offseason.
Ranked in the top twenty five against Western Illinois.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
What are your.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Thoughts on the line I coming into this year. I
think they're a twelfth in the ap Brett Bielima. People
think they have a legitimate shot of making it to
the playoff. They're usually the hunter, not the hunted. Now
with the top fifteen ranking, a lot of people think
they can make some noise this year and be legit
playoff consentder What say you, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
Our crew won't be there.

Speaker 6 (01:00:27):
I know. I think it's earlier in the day, but
we've got plenty on Illinois. We got to see them
last year, actually the last couple of years, and they
are awesome. Brett Bielima, let's start there. I think that
his coaching career has been fascinating. You go back to
what he did to Wisconsin and he was so great,
goes to Arkansas and he did have a couple of
good years at Arkansas before the wheels kind of fell off,

(01:00:47):
and I think a lot of people forgot the type
of head coach that he's capable of and what he
can do when he's got his type of guys and realistically,
he is a Big ten football coach.

Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
And I think that's what.

Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
We've seen, is he's come in there, he's changed the
identity of the Illinois program, and there's a reason that there's.

Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
A lot of optimism.

Speaker 6 (01:01:07):
And I think that starts with Luke alt Meyer at quarterback.
It's a guy who now is in his third year
as the starter at Illinois. That's just a big deal
now in college football to not just be a three
year starter, to be a three year starter at one program.
There are only a couple a handful of teams that
have that. Certainly in the Big Ten, Penn State is
one of them. And Penn State's one of the few

(01:01:28):
in the entire country that people believe are a legitimate
national championship contender. They were nearly ranked number one in
this preseason poll, ranked two in the AP pole because
Drew Aller's back at quarterback. I think if you have
an unknown at quarterback, like.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
So many of the other schools in the Big Ten.

Speaker 6 (01:01:43):
Do Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon. These are all unknown for
the most part at quarterback. That's why they're not ranked
even higher than they are. They're all top fifteen teams,
but they're not number two like Penn State. And I
think that's why Illinois is partially ranked a high as
they are, because Goltmeyer had a fantastic season last year,
really took a step forward protecting the football.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
So you've got that.

Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
Feel and really more than anything, you've got that understanding
that more above all else are, you're just going to
have competent play at quarterback and probably above average play
at quarterback. That's a huge step one. I think Step
two is what happened last year that didn't happen two
years ago. Is Aaron Henry, a defensive coordinator, one of
the youngest defensive coordinators in the country, really found his

(01:02:30):
sea legs. He's this very upbeat, positive man and players
love him.

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
He's a player's coach.

Speaker 6 (01:02:37):
He used to be a player himself, played for Brett Bielima,
and I think he figured out how to do the job.
He got thrust into that position two years ago when
Ryan Walters left after leading the top defense in the
country to go to Purdue as the head coach, and
that first year, I think Aaron Henry was just trying
to figure out, how do I call a game defensively.

Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
How do I make this happen so that our defense
can thrive? And he figured that out.

Speaker 6 (01:03:02):
Year two, and so now you go into year three
with him as your defensive coordinator, and you feel like.

Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
This defense has a chance to be one of.

Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
The best in all of college football. And then the
last part I'll say is their offensive line. They return
enough upfront, And to me, that's always the barometer for
success of a college football team. It's how many starts
do you have upfront returning The teams that.

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
Have a lot generally have a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
Of success, and the teams that don't generally struggle. Certainly
early in the season, Illinois got enough upfront enough experience
that they should be going out there and feeling confident
about protecting their vet.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Noah Eagle, the Voice of the Big Ten on NBC,
joining us here on Fox Sports Saturday, Kevin Figures and
Adam Ausland with you guys. You mentioned Ohio State and
having to replace a quarterback, but they have a lot
of positions they need to replace on their team this year,
still ring third in the AP and I don't know,
maybe they're getting the Alabama treata because they have so
many good recruiting classes, They have so much talent. They
look good coming off the bus. There's a lot of

(01:03:57):
question marks arounding that team as far as how good
they can actually be. We know they have the talent,
but it takes more than that. You also have Matt
Patricia coming in as a defensive coordinator for the first
time at the college level. Are you as gung ho
on Ohio State this year as a lot of the
pundits are, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
I mean it's obviously a big if Kevin and that
big if is going to be the quarterback position. If
Julian Saying is who we expect him to be, then
they could win the national championship again this year because
I think you could argue they have the two best
players in college football, number one being Jeremiah Smith, who
has a true freshman last year. Everybody said all the
whatever you want to call them, the quote unquote experts

(01:04:35):
would tell you that last year is a true freshman.
If he was eligible for the NFL Draft, he would
have been the number one overall pick.

Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
He was that good, and he is that good.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
He's just physically monstrous, and he does things on a
football field that you just don't expect.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
To ever see.

Speaker 6 (01:04:49):
And he was doing it at eighteen nineteen years old.
So as a teenager coming back, he's the best player
in college football. And I think the second best player
in college football. You said Alabama, it's the transfer who
was there last year.

Speaker 5 (01:05:01):
In Caleb Downs. He is going to be a.

Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
Problem in the NFL when he gets there. In the
defensive secondary, is a safety just so good. He's just
so good at recognizing where the football is, attacking angles,
finding just things you don't see.

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
He is a stud.

Speaker 6 (01:05:19):
And so if you have those two guys alone, they're playmakers.
And if you have playmakers at that level on both
sides of the ball, you are always going to be
putting yourself in a good position to be successful. The
other thing is they had so much depth last year
that a lot of the guys who are coming back
maybe weren't the quote unquote stars, but they were still
getting quality reps and quality snaps in big moments. David

(01:05:40):
and Nigguanos, who was a starting quarterback. He's back, Lorenzo
Styles is back, You've got Caleb Downs as mentioned, Sonny
Styles is back at linebacker. These are all guys that
played big, big amounts of snaps last year on their
run to.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
The National championship.

Speaker 6 (01:05:55):
Same with Kenyatta Jackson Junior. I would say offensively, you
could talk about Jeremiah Smith and what he's capable of,
and I certainly love to, but Carnell Tait is somebody
who's taken massive strides. Brandon Innitt has taken strides at
wide receivers. You've got multiple options there. And then they
got a transfer running back who I love from West
Virginia and CJ. Donaldson who was a stud as a

(01:06:17):
freshman and has only gotten better and better. So again
comes down with Julian saying is that guy and if
he is man, that team's.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
Gonna be good.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
I'm still laughing about everybody wanting coach Blackbear fired last
year before Ryan Day led them to the National Championship.
The reason they wanted him fired was because he lost
to Michigan again. Obviously, big news coming out earlier today,
Noah talking about suspensions, fines, but title not vacated, They're
not going to be I guess, taken away from being

(01:06:46):
eligible from postseason action anytime soon. Was this kind of
the punitive measures you expected to come down with Michigan
from the NCAA.

Speaker 6 (01:06:55):
For the most part, I think I was glad that
the wording.

Speaker 5 (01:06:59):
That they used that thought was important.

Speaker 6 (01:07:01):
I was glad that they said the reason that there
was no postseason ban is they didn't want to punish
the players who are there now. And that's always my
issue with any of these and I think the NCAA
has been very clear now that they're trying to avoid that.
But with any of these penalties going against current players
that had nothing to do with maybe previous infractions, now

(01:07:22):
they're at least recognizing, hey, we can't punish the players.
We can't put them in a bad position. Sure, coaches
and people who have been there, and Sharon Moore got
an additional game at it to his already self imposed
to game suspension in weeks three and four this year.
But I'm glad to see at least the players will
be taken care of and it keeps Michigan in a

(01:07:43):
place because at the end of the day, college football
is better when Michigan is relevant and good in the mix,
and so it keeps them in a place that they
can still be that while having to feel some of
the consequences of maybe some action.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
What do you think about the Cold War standoff? When
it comes to the expansion of the player off between
the Big ten and the SEC. We know the SEC
wants the five conference winners plus eleven at largers. Big
ten wants the automatic bids for themselves, the SEC acc
Big twelve and the three at largees. What do you
think is the compromise here? What do you think is
the best solution for what a sixteen team college football
playoff may end up looking like?

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
Well, what I think is the best solution is the
solution we're currently at.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Let's start there, all right.

Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
I think what we had last year, I think if anything,
it proves why would we want after the first round
games we had last year, which were all blowouts?

Speaker 5 (01:08:31):
Why would we want more of that? Why are we
adding more of that?

Speaker 6 (01:08:34):
I just feel like we should stick with this until
we outgrow it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
We haven't outgrown it yet. Now.

Speaker 6 (01:08:39):
I understand why the Big ten and the SEC want
what they want, And at the end of the day,
you're trying to do the best for your conference, and
Tony Pettiti is going to have to do the best
for the Big Ten. Greg sank is gonna have to
do the best for the SEC. Both of them would
want the four automatic qualifiers, four automatic bids coming from
their conferences, and the argument is valid because those are

(01:08:59):
the two conferences in college football, and so they cannibalized
themselves to a certain degree.

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
But at the same time, we look at.

Speaker 6 (01:09:06):
Last year and the Big Ten Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon,
and Indiana, that's four bids. The SEC had plenty of
representation in the College Football Playoff, and so I think
the reason I say it is with a twelve team
playoff that we currently have, it gives the opportunity for
a group of five school like Boise State, who earned

(01:09:26):
their trip to the College Football Playoff last year. It
gives an opportunity to an independent like Notre Dame, who
obviously earned their trip all the way to the National
Championship Game last year. I think the biggest change which
is coming this year is in the seeding, which clearly
was an issue last year, where you have an undefeated
thirteen and oho Oregon team is the number one.

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
Seed and their reward.

Speaker 6 (01:09:47):
Is a bye week to have to face a red
hot Ohio State team. That's just that didn't work out.
But now you recede in the sense of, hey, best
teams are going to get the buys and you go
from there. It's not the automatic buy if you win
your conference. I think that's better. But I don't know
if we need to go to sixteen yet. Why don't
we see twelve out, see what that looks like, and
then we can reassess it we feel.

Speaker 5 (01:10:08):
Like it's not working.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
No last one here for you. The last time I
was watching the NBA on NBC, I was watching my
Sacramento Kings getting screwed by the Lakers in the two
thousand and two Western Conference Finals. Yet, and yet I
am still excited about the NBA's return to the peacock.
Can you give us a little bit of a sneak
peek behind the scenes of just how excited the broadcasting
network is to have the NBA back. Well, we can

(01:10:30):
look forward to obviously, the schedule was released this week.
Are we going to have obviously with the All Star
Game back, that awesome tracking court side shot that really
shows off the speed of the game. What's it going
to be like back on NBC.

Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
Yeah, I would love it. We could go back.

Speaker 6 (01:10:46):
If you remember those court side shots, everybody's actually wearing
their own jerseys on top of it, so I love that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
I always found that was great.

Speaker 6 (01:10:55):
On top of that, if you mentioned, oh two, the
last time it was on NBC, the last game on
NBC was when my new jersey next got swept by
those LA Lakers and we were hoping for the Sacramento
Kings for what we hoped would have been a great series.
But all that to say, we're just pumped. I don't
think there's enough superlatives to describe how excited we actually
are to be back in the fall, be back in

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the mix. It is going to be a fantastic season.
All Star Weekend and into it Dome. There's just so
much to look forward to. And February in general on.

Speaker 5 (01:11:24):
NBC is going to be monstrous.

Speaker 6 (01:11:26):
We've got the Super Bowl in Santa Clara leads right
into both All Star Weekend and the Winter Olympics.

Speaker 5 (01:11:31):
In Milan, so all within.

Speaker 6 (01:11:33):
A ten day or so period, You're just going to
have NonStop sports from super Bowl to All Star Weekend
to Olympics, all at the same time. So it's going
to be just obviously chaos, but at the same time
the best type of chaos. And we are so pumped
to be back on the hardwood at.

Speaker 5 (01:11:49):
This type of level.

Speaker 6 (01:11:50):
So it's just going to be really an honor to
be a part of it because it is such an
iconic franchise, and so the hope is we can now
build on what was already built from nineties and early
two thousands.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Oh thanks you killing You just dunked on Tom mccolor again.
Sorry about that. The Great No Eagle joining us on
Fox Sports Saturday. Hear him call the Big Ten games
on NBC, calling NFL games on Christmas Day. He is
all over the place. There's seventeen jobs that know what
Eagle has and if there's an eighteenth available, best belief,
he's taking it and he deserves it. The Great NOA. Eagle,

(01:12:22):
thanks so much, brother, much appreciate it. We'll talk to
you soon.

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
You got it, guys.

Speaker 6 (01:12:25):
I'm on my way to do Little League Judo actually
later today after the Chargers game.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
So sweep the leg. Sweep the leg, bro, that's great.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Appreciate it, man, that was the best.

Speaker 5 (01:12:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
I like that guy a lot. I miss him, I
worked with him, I knew him win for four straight
seasons with the Clippers that all ended in disappointment, Yet
was never disappointed next to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
No Ego, Well, you know what, you gave him his wings,
ad him, then he has to fly away. Yeah, had
a fly to be with the fellow bird, the peacock.
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Off to greener. Yeah, it was a match made in
bird heaven.

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Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
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We had some geek news for you this week in
Stranger than Fiction, two words zombie Rabbits. You're listening to
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Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Coming up, we'll talk about the teams we love to hate.
But first, our fast food customer defending prticies called nine
one one after her McDonald's run out of McNuggets.

Speaker 11 (01:14:19):
Strange.

Speaker 12 (01:14:20):
He can't give a drunk man riding a horse at EWI,
he goes. Unlike cars, sports don't have motors.

Speaker 13 (01:14:25):
They have a mind in their.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Own strange things.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Twenty four year old man now Juesa throwing an alligator
through a drive through window.

Speaker 5 (01:14:35):
You are strange.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Fix all right, Kevin, It appears Elmer Fudd has met
his match. Now we're not exactly George Norri. Uh, this
is not coast to coast, although we are on nationally.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
That's right, But we do like to.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Talk about cryptozoology, cryptids once in a while, the hidden
animals that may or may not exist. In fact, we
know a Bigfoot expert first hand. I wanted to say
that chup of copper is real to me, as long
as you believe. That's right, David Magdaleno. We have on
speed dial just in case there's any breaking news involving Bigfoot.

(01:15:12):
There won't be because we have game trail cameras everywhere
now and while they catch all kinds of animals in
the Pacific Northwest, weirdly, Bigfoot always seems to avoid them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
No, they got this since since or radar food. That's
how they can avoid it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
They're alien's full. Yeah, crazy, how there's this huge creature
that we can never seem to catch on camera in
four K and then have narration from Sigourney Weaver or
something like that on a weird episode of Planet Earth.
Speaking of have you seen Alien Earth that just came out?

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
I have not know what are the early returns.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
I'm kind of excited, probably too excited really, I'm getting
my hopes up again. It's the showrunner who did Fargo,
and Fargo's a great show, not just a great movie
by the Cohen Brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Never saw the show, did see the movie. That movie
is excellent.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
The show's got four or five seasons and they're great.
And that guy's doing Alien Earth. So yeah, I'm probably
way too excited. Anyways, recently we did catch something that
represents the type of creature you would see in like
a demented web series from the early two thousands, Remember
Happy Tree Friends.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
I can't say that, I'll do.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
We'll check it out. It was a weird, brutal cartoon.
But in Denver, Colorado, they're finding some rabbits, some thumpers
that will thump you real good. The rabbits with horns
on them. Some are calling them Frankenstein rabbits, others demon rabbits.
Some call them zombie rabbits. I prefer horny rabbits, since

(01:16:37):
you know, there is that phrase blank like rabbits the
breed a lot. It kind of makes sense the reason
for their affliction. Though they're technically not horns, they're actually
warts that grow out outwardly, so they end up looking
like horns. These rabbits apparently picked up a virus in Denver.

(01:16:57):
It's called the shoppy popaima virus that I guess has
been known about and studied since the nineteen thirties, and
the appearance of these rabbits probably inspired the jackalope, which
is a mythical creature that's a cross between a jack
rabbit and an antelope.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Well, that's an interesting mix.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
Those aren't real. It's not funny, but they aren't real.
But these Denver Colorado rabbits with horns like warts are.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Hey, what kind of vertical vertical jump does that have?
The antelope and.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
The rabbit they got a little bit, they got a
little howards like bounce. Amazing, they got flubber.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
That's animal I can get behind right there.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
Here's the thing you need to know if you're concerned
about our furry friends. The virus is spread by ticks
and fleas, usually in the summer, which is why we're
talking about it now. But it cannot spread to other animals,
so you're not gonna get like, I don't know, a
dog with horns on it or anything like that. You
don't not worry about that yet. But the bunnies eventually

(01:17:53):
fight off the virus and return to their cuter cuddlier
forms after their immune system kicks in and they don't
end up looking like the rabbit that was scary from
Donnie Darko or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Yeah, do you believe in time travel?

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Now? It's still crazy to me seeing a rabbit with
horns on it, even though it's wartz. That's even worse.
They look very infected. It looks like the end of
the world. This seems like Patient zero outbreak type stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
So these rabbits are not going to jump up and
attack you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
No, Nor are they sexy rabbits like Jesse for Rabbit
or Lola the Bunny from Space Jam, which is like
that's the new knotty nurse uniform that every girl goes.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
With on Hallowny.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Yeah, they go with a Lola of the Bunny, now,
okay they do. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Speaking of which, by the way, I never saw the
Lebron James Space Jam. Is it worth my time?

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Space Jam too? I'd stick with Alien Earth. I never
watched it either.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
I got to wear what I be better off watching
Independence Day?

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
He'd be better off watching the Second Independence Day, which
I know you actually did and regretted with Will Smith's
son or something.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Wellhen I get my two hours back or whatever it was.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
Was Jeff Goloom still in it?

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
I think he was Bill Palman, Bill Pullman, Yeah, came
back as a president. He's like psychotic or something, and
the aliens are in his head and he's having flashbacks
or memories or something.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Well, they still not go quietly into the night.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
He will not. I still love that speech.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
Well, I don't love these rabbits that are mutating in Denver, Colorado,
and that is stranger than fiction.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Well, they won't cause you too much harm.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
Adam's all right, okay, not here, as long as they
don't make their way and my great West.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Well, they start crawls breeding with the antelope, then we
have a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
Well then you've got a mythical creature on your hands, apparently.
But I just.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Adam doesn't believe in you know, I like, oh, go
look behind your car tonight. See if you don't see
a chupacabra.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Well, you know, I have little kittens. I like cute animals,
so I like cute rabbits. I don't want to see
him with horns and wartz. Make sure when any cats
and have wartz horns when you get home, you never
know how dare you put that into my mind saying
that's gonna keep me up all night?

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
You just don't seem like a believer to me.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
I'm not You think I'm molder, Fox Moulder or anything
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Yeah, well I'm not Kevin, Okay, and I am scared
believe that you should be coming up though. We're gonna
put your fears aside at.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Least try our best. Okay. You know, do you fear
your rival?

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
I fear the Lakers a little bit something.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
As you should as a Sacramento King fan. Over there.
We'll get into that and more coming up next hour
on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
That's right, Fox Sports Saturday with Kevin figures Outam Ulslin
hit us up on next at follow Adam. That is
where you can find Adam. You can find me at
kfig one here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Still to come, Denzel Washington ain't got nothing on us.
We'll review some of the comments he made about our profession,
that's right earlier this week. Was he accurate? Was he
out of line, out of place, veering out of his lane?
We'll let you know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Maybe all the above to a certain degree.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Yeah, I got a lot to say about name, so
I do like we we gotta get into it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
But you know one thing we got to get into.
As we know, football season's kicking off here week zero
in college football next weekend. The NFL in full swing
as far as the preseason goes, and Adam and I
got to talking about something earlier on Friday when it
comes to rivals and whether or not and look to
kick off the show. I haven't talked about the Kansas
City Chiefs a little bit. I'm sorry, and now it's

(01:21:19):
quite all right. Look, they've been on a bit of
a run of success here. I know it's been a
difficult time for you over the last six years or so,
oh trial like the last thirty years as a Raider fan.
Trust me, not a lot of success for the Silver
I'm black to be honest with you. Hopefully things are
looking up Silver with the addition of Pete Carroll and
Gino Smith actually bringing a legitimate quarterback into the room.

(01:21:39):
We'll see how improved they will be this coming season.
But obviously, the Kansas City Chiefs, since the most recent
dynasty of the New England Patriots, have ruled the roost
in the NFL, and as a Raider fan, that's hard
to see. It's hard to witness that the one team
that I hate more than anybody else, more than the Broncos,
more than the Chargers, more than the Steelers. The Kansas
City Chiefs have won what have been to three Super Bowls,

(01:22:03):
they won three one, three to five, and they've been
to the AFC Championship Game every single year of Patrick
Mahomes's career. For a tough pill to swallow.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
I typically hate origin stories, but I do want to
get the genesis of your hate for the Kansas City
Chiefs outside of the fact that they're in your division
and have beaten you many times.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Was there a particular win necessary that you have to
say have beaten you many times?

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
I was, well, should I look it up and make
sure that was?

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
I don't need your gro Growing up an LA Raider fan,
it was always ingrained to me that you hate the Steelers,
you hate the Chiefs, you hate the Broncos, and it
was ingrained to me even more that you hate the
Kansas City Chiefs for whatever reason. Didn't really know why.
I know they both came over from the AFL together.
There was always a long standing rivalry between the two
and that was ingrained in me. And then it got

(01:22:51):
taken up an extra notch when Marcus Allen had his
falling out with Al Davis and he went to the
Kansas City Chiefs and proceeded to lay the wood to
the Raiders for about four or five years whatever it
was with the Chiefs every time they played the Raiders,
especially when they came back to the old decrepit Coliseum
in downtown LA. And we'll put it on the Raiders
every single time they played.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
He jumped over a lot of piles into the end zone.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Yeah he did.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
He was good at that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Yeah, a lot of piles of crap called the Raider
defense back then.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Earlier this week, I was thinking about the Dodgers, who
up until tonight were in a bit of a tail
spin called kitt and Ballue because they were in an
oh wheel tailspin. It's been brutal for them. Now you
were on the other side of this. Your Angels ended
up sweeping them for the first time ever Enfranchise history

(01:23:40):
in the Freeway Series. Actually a golf clap. They won
all six games against the Dodgers this season. They did
that deserves a golf clap. Okay, that was their world.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Deserve They deserve nothing. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
But I was kind of taking pleasure in the misfortune
of the Dodgers because I grew up a Giants fan
up in norcl Schodenfreuder was happening. Do you too indulge
in a little bit of shoden freud when you're watching
your rival fail like I was watching with the Dodgers
up until tonight. For that's one game where they had

(01:24:17):
a huge comeback. They were down one run.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Exactly for them. There's a lot, but no, there's something
to be said for that, like when you are especially
when your team sucks. Love to respect Adam and they
won their share of World Series over the past, you know,
seven years or eight years, whatever it's been for the
Giants when they went three to five or whatever it was, I.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Had they had the golden age of Giants baseball not
too long ago.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Yeah, the Raiders have not sniffed that at all. So
we were talking about your team has not been good.
Do you take pleasure out of the fact that your
arrival is like, well, if we're not gonna win, at
least they didn't win. I haven't been able to say
that about the Kansas City Chiefs. I've had to cut
and he's taking even worse. Two of those Super Bowls
they played the forty nine Ers. It lose, lose regardless

(01:24:57):
for me. Yeah, it was also a great for me
to for the forty nine ers, but I would rather
the forty nine ers win in the Kansas City Chiefs.
That's how deep my hatred runs for that organization.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
Raiders Niners preseason matchup come up.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Over underrun fights for for to night, Adam.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Where's it taking place at?

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
It is in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
It's just in Vegas. They're so buttoned up there. I
don't know. They might be all right, really classy. I mean,
there probably will be someone yelling, hey, there's a little
boy right over there. At some point there's gonna be
over under since it's Vegas. I'll say five fights that
we find out about due to social media after this
weekend is over between I think former Bay Area Rivals.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
The only matchup that I can think of in professional
sports that was canceled for a time because there were
too many fights. It was like that, Yes, the Bay
Area Battle or whatever they used to call it, The
Bay Area maybe it was called the Bay Area Brawl.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
I think it was Battle of the Bay. There you go,
but that might have been the Giants and A's in
the eighty nine World Series, also with the earthquake.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Yeah, the Raiders in forty nine. Ers will play annually
either in Oakland or in San Francisco. And because there
were so many fights and so much violence between the
two fan bases, the NFL just said, maybe we just
paused this.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
This annual preseason matchup and just not do this anymore.
We all are taking this too seriously. It ain't the
longest yard out there. Relax.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Yeah, there's hatred for arrival, and then it just goes
to another level. Well, not necessary.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
I would say this a lot of law and order
taking place between those two teams. I would say this.
As much as I used to hate the Dodgers, being
in the industry has softened me up a little bit.
I got a couple of stories for you. One that's
very recent. All right, My cold heart has melted over

(01:26:40):
the fact that men Casparius, Dodgers' relief pitcher, was in
studio at A five seventy recently with Petros some money
in a locker room feature. I talked to the guy
for like five to ten minutes after he got to
save the day before against the Giants up in SF.
And you know what, I liked him, turn Coat. I
liked him a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Daar you, you are no longer allowed. I can't help
the whule Park or whatever it's called now.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Ben Casparius, who helped them win the World Series last year.
He was very good coming out of the pen, like
he kind of wooed me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
I'm gonna tell you this right now, what Travis Kelsey
could be the nicest person in the world. We can
go out and have beers and all that stuff. And
the last thing I'll say to him before he walks
away Ole Max prot Crowsby gets in your ass tomorrow night.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
That's the only way to put it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
That's not gonna happen. Okay, that will never happen at him.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
Look, we're the Dodger station at AM five seven. He
obviously associated with FSR. So I have been around so
many Dodgers over the years that I just can't have
the same level of hate that I used to. And
being in the business for so long, you realize there's
good and bad guys on every team. They're not all
the bad guys in the villains and your team is

(01:27:55):
in all heroes. That's not how anything works. There's a
lot of gray in this world. Oh oh yeah, Well, look,
none of those guys are villains. There's not a single
player on the Kansas City Chiefs that I hate. Patrick
Mahomes is a nice guy, even though he sounds like
a muppet. Does that make it worse?

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Yes, it does. It makes him hard to hate.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Like they're so damn likable.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Andy Reeve was has been one of my favorite coaches
since he was with the Philadelphia Eagles. There's nothing to
dislike there. Travis Kelce, I've always liked him as a player.
Chris Jones is a tough guy. I love him as
a player. There's not like an unlikable personality on the team.
It's just that logo, it's that organization, it's the history
behind it that I can't get behind off. All those
guys thrive personally individually, and obviously they have professionally. I

(01:28:35):
just whether they not win Super Bowl? How about that?

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
Well? For me with the Dodgers, even if I'm not
talking about Ben Casparius, my favorite baseball player of all time. Now.
I had a conversation with the late great Tommy Lasorda
when he came into the station one time at five
seventy and I told him, the bad news is, Tommy,
I'm a Giants fan. The good news is I'm Italian

(01:28:59):
and He's blood is thicker. He would say that, shook
my hands and everything was fine. I love that interaction.
I'll remember that forever. So it's not the same, however, Okay,
there's still a team out there that I dislike here.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
It comes almost as much as.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
I did when I was a kid, and none of
that disdain has faded. And that would be the Los
Angeles Lakers.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
I can still have some good old fashioned hate for them.
I can don't shake your head at me, Bri because
of Laker fans. It's not even so much about the
players anymore.

Speaker 10 (01:29:33):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
I didn't like Kobe and Shack back in the day.
It's complicated. I really like Magic Johnson as a kid,
but I didn't like Kobe and Shack, so it was
kind of on again, off again with them. But it's
been off for a while and Laker fans still pass
from me all the time because I work for the Clippers,
and I am a Clippers fan, and let's be fair,
you do troll them sometimes WHOA.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
You do troll Laker fans WHOA on social media and
there's some back and forth going. I'm not saying it's all.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
Coming from you, but I live under a bridge by crypto.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
Definitely the troller definitely lean you, definitely lean into it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:05):
Once in a while. I get him going. But back
of the day, I was worse. Like I prayed for
the worst for my enemies. I prayed for their downfall
all the time. We had a Shack Bobblehead that I
remember during the two thousand and two Western Conference Finals
between the Kings and the Lakers, as I came from NorCal.
Obviously the Giants rude Sacramento Kings fan, they're taking each

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other on. We twisted that Bobblehead's head all the way off,
and I don't think Shack ever lost his head outside
the time he took a swing at Brad Miller.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
But Miller would have lost his head if he had connected.

Speaker 3 (01:30:36):
That's how much I hated the Lakers, and I think
I could say, and this is kind of the crux
of what we're talking about I might have enjoyed the
Lakers losing more than the King's winning at times. Really,
that's how bad.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
It was for me. So you It sounds ridiculous to ask,
but this is kind of what you're leaning into. You
would take more joy. You took more joy out of
the Lakers losing. Let's say the NBA Finals the Pistons
in two thousand and four, then you would have half
the Sacramento Kings went and beat Noah Eagles in nets
in two thousand and two and actually won the championship.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
And they would have beatn Noah Eagles nets when he's
staying there in that last interview we just did with
him a little while ago. That would have been a
great series. No, it wouldn't have been Noah well to know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
I think he said it would have been a better series,
to which I also argue, I don't think that would
have been the case.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
Kings might not have swept them, but they're winning that
series in five over the nets. We know how much
better the West was over the East even back then.
I wouldn't take it that far, I though, Well, the
best case scenario is they're the team that beats the
Lakers on their way to winning the championship, Like what

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would have happened in two thousand and two if it
wasn't for Game six, which I still get upset about.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
I know you do.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
Yeah, I got problems. I'm damaged goods. I have issues.
This is my therapy. That's why we're doing this right now.
But do you feel it all the same way, Like
you have no hope for the Raiders doing anything, so
all you can do is root against Kansas City, Right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
It's not necessary at all. No, I don't feel the
same way. There's nothing better than having your favorite team
being able to win a championship. That's the greatest feeling.
That's why you invest as much time, oftentimes money, buying
season seeds, buying Sunday tickets and buying merchandise and all
that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
And when's the last time you felt like that?

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
Never? Absolutely never. It's gonna happen at some point, though,
damn it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
And you'll be rewarded. Yeah, your faith will be rewarded.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
The first person I'm hitting up is going.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
To be you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
You have little Fay. Now, it might not be until
twenty fifty something, but it's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
Yeah, it'll be hitting me up, I'll be in the wheelchair.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
So while I did derive joy out of the Kansas
City Chiefs getting smoked by the Philadelphia Eagles and the
Super Bowl this past season, and also losing the Seper
Bowl to Tom Brady, which is also hard, by the way,
because you know, basically Tom Brady's career started at the
tuckle roll with the Raiders. I still want one of
the few people who firmly believe that the Raiders had
won that game in two thousand and one in the

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snow in Foxborough, they would have turned back to Drew
Bledsoe and probably traded Tom Brady away.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
But because Tom was quite a butterfly effect, that's a
fork in the road moment.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
Because Tom Brady is not in a position to lead
that game when he drive against the Rams in the
Super Bowl, and Tom Brady doesn't turn to Tom Brady
at that point.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
Although Bledsoe came in the end in the AFC Championship
game and played against Pittsburgh and helped them beat the
Steelers because.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
Brady got hurt in that game. He absolutely did.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
Yeah, but you're probably right, Bledsoe is getting paid big money.
He was the guy that tuck rule game turning point.
Thank you, Walt Coleman.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
To tell you how deep my hatred runs. I wanted
Tom Brady to win a Super Bowl. That's how much
I disliked the Kansas City Chiefs. That's coming from a
Raider fan. That's weird, isn't it. That's how bad it is. That,
that's how deep it runs.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
Enemy of my enemy is my friend basically, and now
he's my owner, so it makes it's all worse.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
It's all bad right now. This is like when Shack
bought the Sacramento Kings. Wait a second, you did not
have to bring that. Yeah, let you forget about that one.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
That's something that's something that has flown so far on
the radar that we never talk about. I think he's
still as part owner. I thought he sold the steak,
so he didn't, Okay, I hope, so I said for
a while, I'm not coming back to the Kings until
Shaq leaves. Now, luckily I have the Clippers, and luckily
we have an owner that you know, delegates and believes
in the people that he empowered.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
Walmer can buy if it was legally allowed, he could
probably buy the Kings and own them too. At the
same time with the Clippers.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
Well, you remember what happened with the Forum, right I do.
There was some red tape with him building into a
dome right next to the Forum because of I don't know,
Karmageddon happening, and you're not supposed to be able to
have two places like that in close proximity. That's kind
of redundant in proper.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
Also, James Dolan, who owned the Form, thought he was
that the News Clippers Arena was going to take away
concerts and other events at the former's hosting.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
You know what he did, just bought out the Cotometician,
just bought the Form. Oh here's that red tape cut
right there. That was the most Bruce Wayne like, g move,
I'll buy the bar whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
By the way, James Dolan, owner of the Knicks, not
hurting for money himself, and well Steve Barmer just says, like,
why are we gonna get the lawyers involved? Just take
this check, man, James. O's all right, cool, bye.

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
Just take the money. He's out, all right. I wanted
to find out from Bree here and Mark do they
feel do they have the hate in their heart at
the level that I do, or at least have had
at times, yeah, or you get more out of your
rival losing than your own team winning.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
So Mark, you're a proud Chicago wan. So I know
you're you're a Bears fan. Did you get joy out
of the Packers losing or as a White Sox fan
watching the Cubs lose? To do anything for you?

Speaker 11 (01:35:33):
It hasn't been the best recently because the Packers have
been winning. So that whole rivalry thing.

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
It's only they beat you in the NFC Championship game
in like twenty eleven or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
To bring that up.

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
Sorry, Jay Cutler got hurt. Thanks for breaking my heart.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 11 (01:35:48):
I appreciate your opinion. Anyway, back to me, I'm so sad.
You know, just that the Packers are doing well. They
have a new quarterback, so they might do better. An
I'm always pulling against them. So that's that with the Packers.
You got a new quarterback to come on, let's hope
he's not painting his nails during the game, That's all

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I'm hoping for.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Wow and crying into his mom's chest. Uh bree.

Speaker 14 (01:36:13):
Okay, So I used to think, like, I mean, you
guys are talking about like inner division like whatever, rivals
now I'm at a point where it's just like I
hate the Rams and I hate the Vikings just because
of the monumental things that have happened against the Saints.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
Like like what, I don't know if you.

Speaker 14 (01:36:30):
Guys remember the Minneapolis Miracle Stefan Dick.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
I feel like your your hatress to go towards Marcus Williams,
not the entire organization.

Speaker 14 (01:36:37):
It's the entire organization.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
But I feel that the Vikings didn't do anything. They
just caught the ball and ran.

Speaker 14 (01:36:43):
Yeah, well that was just the whole team. Also, I
just will never and also boundy Gate was kind of
involved with that. I don't know, I just can't. I
just it's just a bad feeling Boundy Gate.

Speaker 3 (01:36:51):
It's called karma. You got your come up, and it's
after getting away with Bountygate, Super Bowl and the Rams.

Speaker 14 (01:36:57):
Just I will never get over the twenty nineteen I'll
never get over for the p I call. It's just
something that I just I have a disdain and disgust
for them. And when the Rams lost to the Super Bowl,
it was like the best day.

Speaker 12 (01:37:07):
Of my life.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
Feel like I should have gone against the NFL officials,
but sure, I just can't from it.

Speaker 14 (01:37:12):
I mean obviously in like the Falcons and mostly the Bucks,
like the whole Marshall Lattimore and like Mike Evans, like drama.
I was always like my name.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
Like a third of the NFL hates apparently, like.

Speaker 14 (01:37:24):
Mike Evans is such a bride and I just like
that's super annoying. And obviously every time I look at
the Panthers are just so gross and I just think
about it everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
It's just all that he's not holding a grudge at all,
Sarah Michelle Geller in the grudge, Like what.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
Is this he associates Rob Low in his NFL logo head.

Speaker 14 (01:37:43):
Yeah, I'm not a fan of that either. That's really annoying.
I can't help it now. I know it's the Saints.
The Saints, like you know, like I'm an angel there
the Saints.

Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
It's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
Well, let's not go that far.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
For he just took a flamethrower to the majority of
the league. Like there was a lot of misdirected hostility,
including coming at me here He's like breaking knees at
the end.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Yeah, Breeze winner the award for play Ahead End of
the Year. Hate all coming from Breeze direction.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
Well, just took an unexpectedly worst turn that I have to.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
Say, so pretty dark.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
I knew it was going to get bad, but my god,
is everybody else that you want to hate before we
go to break here? Yeah? Who else? You?

Speaker 14 (01:38:22):
Well, if we're talking about you.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Can move to the NBA. Your Phoenix Suns. I mean
they get a lot of hate right now.

Speaker 14 (01:38:29):
I just feel like Dennis Allen kind of took like
it kind of hurt Spencer Rattler's like progression in a
quarterback world, you know. And also, I'll never I will
always hate Derek Carr and everybody knows that at work.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
So you hating a proud man of God.

Speaker 14 (01:38:44):
Oh, I'm sure it's fine. He's going to open up
his Joe Old Scene church in Fresno and he's going
to do great. The Church of car It's going to
have the sea and the sea.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
You know. There you go. I thought he'd open like
a makeup shop for all the masscaret looks like he's.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
Wearing all the time.

Speaker 14 (01:39:00):
Matt Scara, I get it right.

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
Whatever his little Jared leto eyeliner. It's annoying.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
I really don't appreciate you guys going after an average
rader quarterback like that in front of my presence as
really really, really unnecessary from the two of you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
I don't know all the teams the Denzel Washington roots for,
but I know there's some LA teams, there's some New
York teams, and I may be a hater when it
comes to him more Hayes comments that he just made
this week that kind of set me off. We'll discuss
coming up next. He's Kevin Figures. I'm out a Moslin.
It's Fox Sports Saturday Night here on FSR.

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Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
Last segment, we were talking about teams we love to
hate and Mike in Tucson is calling in, Mike, what's up?
You're on the f and a takeover of FSR.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
What's up?

Speaker 12 (01:40:23):
Mike?

Speaker 5 (01:40:25):
Hey, what's up guys?

Speaker 13 (01:40:25):
How do you guys doing?

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:40:27):
I love the show.

Speaker 15 (01:40:28):
I tune in. I gotta say, Brian no best radio
voice I ever heard. And I'm a radio jock, Team
Manhart Raider fans. I would never watch Raider games off PS, Greg, Papa.

Speaker 6 (01:40:41):
Howard Stern.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
Well, when I heard Brian knows.

Speaker 13 (01:40:43):
He has the best radio voice ever and we need
more of him. And I'm not gonna hate, but he
could fill he could. There's there's a few shows on
Fox that we take out. That's what Brian no is.

Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
Yeah, I like Brian to know where this was going.

Speaker 13 (01:41:01):
Ball State University, Ball State University.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
Brian, Thank you, Mike. We appreciate despite his affinity for
a Notre Dame, I also love Brian. Note too, Brian's
one of my favorite people. So appreciate the call there.
If you don't know Brian, yeah, exactly. Let's go to Olympia.
Let's go to a Pacific Northwest and Emmett.

Speaker 12 (01:41:21):
What's going on in Kevin Figures? And we got to
bring that drop back the old Kevin Figgers dropped them
back in the day. Adam Auslin, how you guys doing tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Good brother? Yeah, we'll dig that up.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
Jingle from back in the day, the Paddle Brian inspired.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
Jingle seventy eight Vermont. That's deep.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
What's tell your mind? What do you got man?

Speaker 12 (01:41:37):
I love this segment. There's a few teams that I
hate as a Seahawks fan. The first one kind of
makes sense, the San Francisco forty nine ers, It's just
like how their fans like act to us. I think
it's that far. And then seeing them go to the
NFC Championship in the Super Bowl over the past couple
of years, I'm definitely hate watching. And then I don't
think McCaffrey's as healthy as they're making it out to be.

(01:41:57):
I think Kendon nightis is a lingering thing, and all
the fans like, oh, we're good, we're back to normal,
We're winning the Super Bowl. And the other team I hate,
and this one doesn't really make that much sense me
being a Seahawks fan. But I think a lot of
America can agree with me on this one, and that
is a Dallas Cowboys I think that their fans's our
year every year. And then just I feel bad for

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Cowboys players like Micah Parsons and all that, where Jerry
Jones just does them wrong. I mean, Jerry Jones is
like he doesn't care about winning. He cares about it
being a soap opera, and I can't support that. And
the Cowboys fans they're just like, as much as they've
gone through, I just can't stand them. And then an
NBA won for you guys.

Speaker 13 (01:42:35):
Real quickly, and Adam's gonna like this one.

Speaker 12 (01:42:38):
Lebron James, I think like over the last couple of years,
for me, my view on Hims changed just he is
not good at talking to the media.

Speaker 5 (01:42:45):
I think he wants all the attention.

Speaker 6 (01:42:47):
But I mean he's a great player.

Speaker 13 (01:42:48):
I'll give him that.

Speaker 12 (01:42:49):
It's not too much of a hate thing, but it's
a criticism.

Speaker 13 (01:42:52):
Thank you for the call.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
It's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
Man. Dallas Cowboys America's team to hate, Yes, that's how
they become.

Speaker 2 (01:42:59):
I think everybody he's not a Cowboy fan, can rally
behind that. The Cowboys are one of those teams that
you're not really indifferent about. You want to win? Are
you just you bask when they lose? They've been doing
a lot of the last thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
Years polarizing like Lebron James not a bad phone call?
Do we have Dave in Kansas?

Speaker 7 (01:43:17):
Dave?

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
What's up? You're on FSR? Yeah, I just.

Speaker 9 (01:43:21):
Wanted to tell you that this is you guys have
the best late night show that I've listened to in
a long time. I've been listening to Fox Radio for
probably twenty plus years when they first came on, and
I'm a late night guy, so I've seen a lot,
you know, seeing in her a lot of things that
you guys are really good. And I'm glad that you're

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both getting a chance to appear, and I hope that
you stay on longer. The screener said to me, you know,
I is there any team that I hate?

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
Well?

Speaker 9 (01:43:56):
I lived in Denver for a long time and so
I hated Kansas City and uh and uh, you know
the the other Kings that we played, and now that
I live hear Kansas City. I hate Denver.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
Are you really flip flopping exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
Let's hello flip there, Dave?

Speaker 3 (01:44:15):
Just still flip flop on us.

Speaker 11 (01:44:16):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
We appreciate the life. I still love to support there, Dave,
appreciate him, man, David Kansas calling in, Do we got
one more here?

Speaker 6 (01:44:24):
Kevin?

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
Yeah, let's go to the oldie but goody our guy
Poppy in San Diego, Poppy, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (01:44:30):
What's going on?

Speaker 14 (01:44:30):
Guys?

Speaker 9 (01:44:31):
Hey?

Speaker 12 (01:44:31):
Kevin?

Speaker 13 (01:44:31):
And everyone looks so.

Speaker 4 (01:44:32):
What I really hate is the fan, the low information
fanning over here in San Diego, beautiful San Diego.

Speaker 6 (01:44:38):
They're like the.

Speaker 4 (01:44:39):
Rivalry that people hate is the Chargers against the Raiders
and the low information fan that they don't know nothing
about their team or anything like that. Just that I
really hate that those fans that they didn't know nothing
about their team. And another riberry that hate over here
in San Diego is the Dodgers. They come over here
and it's just just crazy. It's just crazy. They hate
each other. They act like their own our city, beautiful

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San Diego, America, finan city, America's financ city, and it's
not like that. And also a new library that I hate.
It's a La Galaxy. We have our first year and
now that's in San Diego, MC. These guys were lost
to us, and I was at that game and they
were fighting upstairs, and I felt like they were gonna
be crawling down and hte their heads on the ground.
It's is just crazy, those those La fans. I don't know,

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it's it's just something about it, like they think they
know it all that. I hate that with the passion.
So we're gonna humble them, the Padres, We're gonna come
back and we're gonna beat the Dodgers bounce back on
some day too. So that's what I that's my take
on that poppy.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
You're not wrong. LA fans can come across as entitled.
Except Clippers fans, they are except Clippers fans humble, are
extremely entitled. They show humility even outside the greatest arena
of all time and into a dome. Clippers fans know
where it's at.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
There's a level of arrogance that comes with being a
fan of certain organizations that have a standard of winning,
like the Lakers and like the Dodgers especially. You know
something the Clippers don't really know a whole lot about,
So that's probably why they're so humble.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
Well, you know what, that was some hate right there,
Ken and an unnecessary shot directly to your left, Bobby.

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
Thanks for the phone crustee of Bobby.

Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
Speaking of unnecessary Yes, Denzel Washington's doing a media tour
for the latest Spike lead joint that he's in with
Jeffrey Rush. It's called Highest to Lois and he said
this taking a dig at our profession.

Speaker 5 (01:46:26):
Everybody's got an opinion.

Speaker 16 (01:46:27):
We live in a world of opinionaire you know, I
just want I call them opinionaires. They're all the shows
are a bunch of guys and a couple of them
that have played, but most of them who haven't, who
have an opinion about what something should be when they
haven't done it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:39):
Those who can't talk about those who can't. Those who
have know what they talking about.

Speaker 16 (01:46:44):
Those who haven't don't period too much target, too much,
target might got an opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
Everybody's sitting around getting fat, you.

Speaker 5 (01:46:54):
Know, thinking they know how to do it.

Speaker 16 (01:46:55):
Just because you could sit behind the desk and chit chat,
that mean you can do a damn thing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
It's a bar.

Speaker 16 (01:47:00):
Come get up here with me, let's find out. Come
get in the gym with me, Let's find out. I
mean I don't know you you know, I can throw
my hands I can. I'm sure do it. I can't
do it for real?

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
Side, I don't talk about it.

Speaker 7 (01:47:15):
Well, let me leave.

Speaker 16 (01:47:16):
See any kid you know who never played a day
in his life and now he can get back at
everybody because he got a mic in the Space show.

Speaker 3 (01:47:24):
People need to shut up.

Speaker 16 (01:47:26):
People need to shut up, learn how to do something,
be actually good at something.

Speaker 5 (01:47:29):
Try that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
I don't know if the dramatic music was necessary underneath
really had it's something to it, though it did kind
of work, especially when he basically just said catch me outside.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
How about that if he say come catch his hands? Like,
all right, Denzel Hurricane, were you acting it? Were You're
being real at that point in time? So I had
to tell you that. Good of an actor, by the way,
So I love Denzel.

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
He's making an argument that a lot of people do,
which is you never played bro, Yeah, what you know?
If you didn't play at the highest level, how can
you know about sports? How can you talk about sports
and do so for living? Well? I don't think he's
been a talk show host nope in his career, or

(01:48:07):
he played one in a movie. Yet he's giving his
own opinion and critiquing that profession for critiquing sports. Hey,
I don't think he understands talking is a profession. Sports
talk is a profession. Political commentators that's a profession.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
Entertainment commentators, voters, the very profession that he has excelled
in for forty years, fifty years, whatever it's been. He's phenomenal.
I loved Denzel's one of my favorite actors of all time.
But the reason or a big reason why you're successful
is because of people like us who are in the
entertainment industry that promote and talk about the things that
you do in debate whether or not you were better

(01:48:49):
in this film versus somebody else. And you know what
those debates drum up, whether or not you're nominated for
Best Actor, and whether or not you win awards, and
whether or not you get all these accolades that propel
you to get other big you see. So that's how
it works.

Speaker 3 (01:49:02):
Like the criteria or the credibility and the resume in
your background for talking about sports, it isn't having played necessarily,
it's can you talk? That's what has to be there.
That's what adds the credibility because the truth is, some

(01:49:23):
of the greatest players of all time are terrible analysts
and terrible gms and terrible owners. If there was some
connection between being greater to sport and knowing how to draft,
knowing how to build a team, well, Michael Jordan wouldn't
be so bad at it because he might be the
greatest player ever. But he can't evaluate talent, right, but

(01:49:47):
he played. I don't understand. Shouldn't he know more than
everyone else?

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
And less? I call Denzel Washington and hypocritic because I
don't want to do that. Here he in the midst
of doing this media to where you're talking about Adam
promoting this movie, made a stopover the first take, and
I had this critique of the Dallas Cowboys, his favorite
team of the NFL.

Speaker 17 (01:50:06):
I've been a Cowboy fan since the sixties. He's making
it hard for me. Wow, not to be a fan
because I'm still a Cowboy fan. I'm still gonna have
to start on the side of the hat. But he
ain't thinking about us. He's thinking about his pocket. Okay,
I mean it all.

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
Jerry Jones on the phone, Get him on the phone.
What does he say?

Speaker 16 (01:50:28):
You tell me?

Speaker 5 (01:50:28):
What does he say?

Speaker 18 (01:50:29):
He says that he's getting rip my Cowboys. We're the
most successful brand in sports.

Speaker 1 (01:50:36):
You know, you mean in terms of what championship.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
No, of course he can't say championship.

Speaker 18 (01:50:40):
I'm talking about recognition, notoriety, dollars and cents and sports.
But in the end, one of the ine, you haven't
been in an NFC championship game or Super Bowl in
thirty years. Thirty years, okay, And for some reason he's
just stubborn, man, He just And then you got his
son sitting there talking about Michael Pauls's.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
Like, hey, he got a won to Sonic track.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
What makes those sense? Guys? But you know this, there's
box office and it's Oscars.

Speaker 17 (01:51:08):
Jerry been a while, he ain't been to the show.
You wouldn't know.

Speaker 13 (01:51:12):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
I don't want to step to the equalizer three here.
I mean, but it sure seems like he's talking about
sports there. And yet did he play professionally?

Speaker 7 (01:51:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
Didzell Washington own an NFL franchise and know what it's
like to own a team?

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
Has he got that much game?

Speaker 2 (01:51:27):
Hire a head coach and a general manager and a
roster and try to put a winning product on the field.

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
By the way, let's see here, he's fans of the Cowboys,
the Lakers, the Knicks, the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
Like, what are you getting at.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
I'm not saying he's a fairweather fan for teams that
have historically won over the last fifty years since he's
been around, But it seems like there may be connecting
dots there, just a little bit of evidence that I
don't know, he's a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:51:55):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:51:55):
I don't want to say that. I don't want de
Zel to come after me next.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
Oh look, a New Yorker moved to lay. I can
kind of understand the connection there, but like, the greater
point is you can't see her and call out people
for having opinions on things that they don't have experience in,
and then you do the exact same thing while you're
in the midst of this tour doing the exact same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:52:12):
You're criticizing us for rules for thee but not for
the Denzel Washington, And.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
I get it. You worked in a profession where people
have been critical of you and your perform at your
entire career and you're tired of people talking about you,
And I get it, But that's what you sign up
for when you become an entertainer, singer, professional athlete. That's
kind of why you make all the money. They're things,
they are things that come with it, and a couple
of those things is guys like you and I sitting
here criticizing you for things that you say and do.

Speaker 3 (01:52:37):
I think, to me, this is about some of the
dumbest takes I've ever heard have come from former great athletes.
And the difference is playing the game, knowing the game,
and talking the game are three separate things, right, And
that's where I stand on this, and I still love you,
Denzel same. What's my favorite Denzel movie? I guess is

(01:53:00):
still Training Day. It's gotta be. He won the Academy
Award for that. I did pretty supporting for Glory pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
And Malcolm X. Yeah, between Training Day and Malcolm X
are by far the two my two favorites, so bre
you got.

Speaker 14 (01:53:12):
One the Training Day one hundred percent. I also remember
The Titans is a close second.

Speaker 5 (01:53:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
He's pretty good in that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:18):
Yeah, he's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 6 (01:53:21):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
I liked Ryan Gosling in that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
I know he was, and of course who does it?
I was a Rev guy personally, but now one of
our favorites coming up to finish things off here with
Breeze three in the final segment here of Fox Sports
Saturday with Kevin Figures and Adam Oslin. Back in on
Fox Sports Saturday, Adam Oslin and Kevin Figures with you

(01:53:45):
podcast promotion.

Speaker 15 (01:53:46):
If you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
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because you're saying things in my ear that you shouldn't
be saying. You're trying to get me kicked off the air.
We just got here.

Speaker 3 (01:53:54):
Don't hanker man him.

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(01:54:19):
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Speaker 3 (01:54:23):
Been fun here on Fox Sports Saturday. I'm out of Maslin.
He's Kevin Figures. Before we get out, though we can't
miss this segment, not one, not two.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
But three.

Speaker 14 (01:54:36):
Sport.

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
It's entertainment, it's good, it's breeze three.

Speaker 14 (01:54:42):
So alrighty, I'm so you guys. We were talking about
Michigan a little bit earlier. Well, former Michigan tight in
tight End now current Chicago bear Colston Loveland kind of
made a social media rounds Human viral for his karaoke
performance at Marios Let Me Lo You, a classic from
like the early two thousands. I love Mario. It's a

(01:55:04):
great song. During a team meeting, obviously, they pushed him
to the bottom of the room and all these people,
all the team, like one hundred plus team members were
watching him just sing the song. And it kind of
got me thinking, if you were like a football player
and you were like an old vet, and then this
rookie came in and you were gonna come up with
three kind of like embarrassing his songs to have them sing,

(01:55:26):
Like what three.

Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
Would you choose? Okay, I can't even conceive of that.
I'm no Denzel Washington.

Speaker 14 (01:55:32):
You know, Yeah, how does she have an opinion about it?

Speaker 13 (01:55:35):
All? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
Exactly?

Speaker 14 (01:55:38):
So my first one I went slained me on. My
heart will go on. It was just a little dramatic
and it's just like she hit some crazy notes and
I just want to I want a guy to sing
that and just like really put their heart out.

Speaker 2 (01:55:52):
Or something.

Speaker 14 (01:55:52):
Yeah, that would be hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:55:53):
I would love that's the way.

Speaker 14 (01:55:56):
Wow, that's too funny. Okay, that was one of my
my second one.

Speaker 3 (01:56:02):
I did go Barbie Girl.

Speaker 14 (01:56:03):
Obviously, Barbie is such a huge tremendous part of within
the last like five years, the movie Greta gerwgg YadA YadA,
a classic song, and so I'm a nineties hit. And
because I am definitely in this phase right now, the
Backstreet Boys are in Vegas, They're they're performing at this sphere.
I've been listening to them NonStop because I want to

(01:56:24):
go and sell a kidney to just try to just
be in the same breathe, the same air as them.
I went, I want it that way because I feel
like any kind of guy could sing that and just
sing with a lot of heart, and it'd be really
embarrassing and fun for them.

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
A karaoke song. Deal with that?

Speaker 14 (01:56:38):
Yes, So go Mark, You're up.

Speaker 11 (01:56:41):
So I was thinking if crazy songs not so much
nursery rhymes, but there's a section of the Rubber Ducky
song from Sesame Street where it says, rubber Ducky, you're
the one you make bathtime lots of fun. So there's
that one, and then I would make a rookie sing
the Archie song Sugar Sugar.

Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
Oh honey, honey.

Speaker 11 (01:57:04):
And then the third one, Yeah, that one, and then
I would have a couple of rookies get up and
do their row row row your boat and make them
do it correctly.

Speaker 3 (01:57:15):
If they did it wrong, they'd have to start over.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
And and actually physically have to actually act like they're rowing.
So that works for me too. So Bree talked about
my horror go almost the lean the On, So that's
one of them.

Speaker 3 (01:57:24):
You guys watching the Titanically.

Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
Also, nothing would be more entertaining to me than to
see like a three hundred and fifty pound defitsive tackles
sing man, I Feel like a woman by Shias Plaint,
So that one. And then if we're talking about some choreography,
to have them get a little bit of fun my
prerogative by Bobby Brown. But you gotta dance when you sing.
Two those are my three.

Speaker 3 (01:57:44):
All right, I guess we're trying to make it as
awkward as possible. Absolutely, I'll Make Love to You by
Boys to Men, Oh Here we Go, Oh Sam, Sorry Hey?
Is the album in the Room with Us that sounded
pretty good, Kevin? From it, there's a song. It's the

(01:58:05):
last track of my favorite Deaftones album, the songs called MX.
The song is, you know, not playable on the radio
or anything like that. That's not the reason I want
it to be sung here in rookie karaoke because the
song at the tail end of it goes dead air
for twenty minutes before another song, a secret track starts.

Speaker 2 (01:58:29):
What's minutes?

Speaker 3 (01:58:30):
Yes, So I want him to have to stand there
after singing MX from the Deaftones just in dead silence
for twenty minutes because that technically is part of the song.

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
If I'm a teammate, I'm leaving, I got time for this.
Thank you first of all, who had time to sit
there and know that there's twenty minutes of dead air
before it actually starts playing more music.

Speaker 3 (01:58:53):
Like I said, it's my favorite album. I'll sit there forever.
It's my favorite Deaftones album. And then lastly, if it's
a white guy, Kevin, you know this God. The movie
CB four has a certain song in it that goes on,
I'm black, y'all, and I'm black, y'all, and I'm black
and I'm black, and I'm black.

Speaker 2 (01:59:10):
Y'all, and I'm black, y'all, and I'm black, y'all, and
I'm black and the black and I'm black, y'all, and
I'm black of the black and black black, black, black
and the black, and I'm black and I'm back. I
thought she was gonna say I'm black and I'm proud
by James Brown would also, which is also work, you know,
So I'll slide that one in there, the honorable men.

Speaker 3 (01:59:26):
Well done job, guys.

Speaker 14 (01:59:28):
B that's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:59:30):
Not a bad way to exit week two of the
f and a takeover of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
It's pretty strong.

Speaker 3 (01:59:37):
That's pretty good, Reese three. Maybe we should always put
it on the back end of the show. Why not? Yeah,
not been as strong. Oh, I'm sorry. Is this a
producer's meeting that we're having on the air right now?

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
It's sound of like Fred Rogan right now? Is what's
going on? That's how the sausages all fair conversations on
the air right now.

Speaker 3 (01:59:55):
I'm sorry for pulling back the curtain, Kevin, It's not
awkward at all.

Speaker 2 (01:59:59):
No, not in the least bit. No, that was a
good breeze.

Speaker 6 (02:00:02):
Three.

Speaker 3 (02:00:02):
I love that. Before we get out of here, as
elwis who want to show some love to our crew.
Absolutely Brebrey Mark here at Fox Sports Radio, and I
like to call him great Scott as Doc Brown would
and back to the future, Scott Shapiro for the opportunity here, Kevin.

Speaker 2 (02:00:18):
Yes, much appreciate the opportunity, and thank you guys for
listening to Kevin Figures of Adam Olson here on Fox
Sports Saturday. Thank you for your support. Coming up next
to fellows Anthony Gargano and Jeff Schwartz on FSR

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