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December 11, 2025 • 32 mins

Final Hour Fun Fact. Number, Word and Song of the Day.  BFF Don MacLean on the NBA and college hoops. Dead and Alive Guy Birthday of the Day.

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but he it is and afterwards in the press call,
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sad as Joe Burrow in that sound that we played
last hour. Super said a real deflator like having a
two hour show and your show cleaved for the Clippers

(02:39):
who have eighteen losses on the season. Regardless, you could
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And that's okay, we don't judge you. All right, It's
time for the word of the day, Matt, how hurt

(03:01):
I mean with his words?

Speaker 5 (03:03):
The word of the day.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Today's word of the day is so fine because so far,
whether you like it or not, is going to be
the place to be. Now, we reported on this back
when it looked like it was going to be likely,
and now Ryan Krcy of the La Times put it
out today and it got a lot of what do

(03:27):
they say, You got some heat on it, Matt, like
little traction action. According to sources, the twenty twenty eight
Olympics are expected to force USC football out Nodo of

(03:49):
the La Coliseum for the twenty eight season. That's because
the Colisseum used to have a track, but it doesn't
have a track anymore, so they want to build a
new track, and that means they have to cut the
football season down and then they're going to have the
Special Olympics. They can't rebuild the field fast enough to

(04:15):
have the twenty twenty eight football season at the LA Coliseum.
USC is likely to play their games at Sofi Stadium,
which means all four teams in Los Angeles, the Chargers,
the Rams, UCLA, and USC will be housed in Sofi

(04:37):
Stadium in twenty twenty eight, much to the chagrin of
the people of Inglewood and their weekends. What does it
mean that we live in southern California? Man, Yeah, but
it's also a little bit unfortunate that we live in
southern California, a place synonymous with great weather and outdoor

(04:59):
sporting event and all four teams are going to be
playing indoors in twenty twenty eight, and other than USC,
three of our teams will be playing indoors all the time.
Unfortunate and incongruent. Is parking better at the Coliseum than

(05:24):
it's so Fi? Right? Like, that's a tough one.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, because I mean, so far, if you don't have
prepaid parking, you're pretty much sol right.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Exactly, And at USC you could do something shady in
somebody's lawn or figure something out, like at USC there's
a thousand ways to skin a cat around South central LA. Yeah,
you know, but and I guess you could say the
same for the wood. But anyway, crazy situation unfolding in
twenty twenty eight. Stay tuned to the Petrosen Money Show.

(06:00):
That's time for the number of the day.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Here's my number of top number of the day.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
All right, let's get some picks. We got a game tonight.
We will not be playing it because we have got
Clipper basketball. Wee oh, come on, it's awesome Bucks versus Falcons.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Oh, I'm sorry, Matt, it's the Paralympic Games twenty twenty eight,
not the Special Olympics Corrections and retractions that'll be using
the track the Paralympic Games. Sorry, let's have those picks tonight.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Out laid.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
The five and a half Bucks are getting healthy. Mike
Evans is back, the Falcons are toasted four and nine.
Kirk Cousins has been awful. They just got their heads
kicked in by the Seahawks thirty seven to nine, a
week after losing to the Jets. And remember, the Rams
have the Falcons first round pick. It's gonna be in
the top ten incredible. Plus the Bucks are wearing the
cream sickles, so no brainer.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Oh it's Creamsickle week. They can't lose.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
I went three and one last week, totally fine with
not going four and zero. Chiefs losing was the one
I missed some big lines. We got teams playing the
string other fight in playoff spots, and battle to keep
the AFC East is in the balance. I'll take the
points somehow. The Bills a one man band orchestrated by
Josh Allen and little else. They should have lost to
the Bengals last week of fluky five minutes in the

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fourth quarter, two Bengals turnovers, watch the Bills go from
ten down to five up. The Patriots look like the
best team in the conference right now, Drake may of
the League MVP. They have played nobody, nobody since their
Week five win over Buffalo. They have not faced a
playoff team, not one. So I get throwing some shade
as the Bills have been running a gauntlet to get

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to nine and four, But making the Patriots home dogs.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
At eleven and two seems a little wacky.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
So I'll take the points to one and a half
and watch the Patriots wrap up the AFC heat. It's
fun while it lasted, kids, but the mass Holes are
back heavy favorites. And by heavy favorites, I mean the
Giants playing two and a half. It is a two
and eleven Giant team versus three and ten Commander team.
Why do we touch its just mailed it in completely

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and totally against the Vikings last week, and I expect
him to do it again this week. Thirty one nothing
at the hands of the Vikings. Giants already have their quarterback,
they got an interim coach that everybody seems to like
in Mike Kafka, and at least they still have a
defensive front.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
I can't believe the Chargers lost to these two teams.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Both of these teams they combined five and twenty one,
responsible for half of the Chargers' losses this season. Only
thing to be a little concerned about here in taking
the Giants and laying the two and a half is Mariota.
He's been a lot better than Jayden Daniels this season.
Jayden played last week, Mariota's in this week. He's done
enough to get another year in the league, no question,
but he's putting together a season that might see him

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be a bridge quarterback for a team taking someone in
the first round. Get that bridge QB money. That's like
ten twelve million bucks versus backup money four to six
million bucks. I will gladly they lay the nine and
a half and take the Texans.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
They smell it.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Last week when the Cards couldn't get much offense going
after the start the game, the Rams poorted on forty
five seventeen. Texans do not have that same sort of
offensive firepower, but they can figure some things out against Arizona.
They will have nothing happening against the best and the
lague defense. Houston still in play for the division, just
a game back of the Jags, and the two teams
split their season series. Already, this feels like two tds.

(09:17):
So I will lay to nine and a half and finally,
Packers road favorites against the Broncos. The eleven and two Broncos.
Am I hate betting?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yes, I am still cannot believe the Broncos are eleven
and two. They are the Chiefs of last year who
went twelve and zero in one score games and are
one in six this year on one score games. The
Broncos are nine and two in one score games, Packers
have found their rhythm four in a row, back to
back wins over the Bears and Lions to take control
of the division and their defense. With Micah Parsons humming

(09:49):
return of Christian Watson offense balance with Josh Jacobs, I'll
lay the two and a half at mile high and
take the Packers.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
I can't believe those Broncos.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Can't believe it.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I can't believe it. You wouldn't have been able to
say that on this air a couple of years ago.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
Today's song of the Day is called Rockets from jazz composer,
musician producer Herbie Hancock, who won a Grammy Award for
this tune in nineteen eighty three for Best R and
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an abbreviated version of a crunchy grooven Thursday due to
Clippers basketball in Houston with the Rockets at Toyota Center.
That begins with our friend Adam Oslin, who we'll have
that Clippers countdown show ready to go at four o'clock.

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five pm. They got a three thirty three win percentage.

(11:35):
Six and eighteen is how they have started off their
first twenty four games of the season.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Hey, but that's okay, that's all right. We've got Don
McClain on joining us on the Petro San Money Show.
The BFF of the show Busy tomorrow up in Oregon.
So he joins us today. The next ass he kisses
will be the first. He's a leading scorer in the

(12:04):
history of the Pac twelve and UCLA. He's forgotten more
basketball than most of us will ever know. He works
at the Big ten network FS one and CAA these days,
and we're always proud to call him our friend. Don.
What's cragging? How are you welcome to the show? What's New?

Speaker 5 (12:26):
I am looking forward to the drive down the five
tomorrow from Portland to Eugene. Hopefully it's not raining. I
don't think it's supposed.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
To two hours and fifteen minutes.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
About yeah, more like two.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Okay, all right, fair enough?

Speaker 5 (12:43):
You know Benny on traffic.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
And they changed the paint at the Oregon Court because
it was so weird the first time. Right now it
like it is a little less offensive.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Yeah, And I've always said on TV it looks way
better in person than it does on TV. But yes,
they've lightened the colors a little bit, and I do
think it looks a little bit better on TV, but
still looks great in person.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Don would love to kind of get you awigh in
on the sort of football aspect as it relates to
baseball aspect of putting these tournaments in playoffs together. Some
people saying they do a much better job with basketball
because there's just more transparency, more factors, the strength of schedule,
the RPIs, all of those sort of things.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Do you feel like that basketball gets it right?

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Like there's very few snubs because of course, you know,
and look, you got sixty eight teams versus twelve, so
of course there's going to be a big difference there.
But just in terms of how they put the tournament together,
are other things the college football could maybe pull from
what they do basketball wise?

Speaker 5 (13:45):
You know, that's a good question, Matt. I think once
they kind of came with the net rankings, and that's
not the only metric that they used when determining the tournament,
but it's the most prevalent, and I think when you
have one big metric, it kind of decides whether or
you're in. And I don't know, I mean, I follow
college football, but I don't know the ins and out
to the committee and what they use. But it just

(14:07):
seems like you're right, it's a little more transparent because
it's a little more specific with that one net ranking number.
It's like, Okay, yeah, you were third in the conference,
but your net rankings, you know, eighty five, Like you're
not getting in if that's the case. And so it
takes your entire season. Obviously. I think there's one argument
that a lot of people make that, you know, games

(14:29):
at the end of the year in conference games should
be factored more heavily than games in November December, and
I guess I would agree with that, but I'm not
sure how you quantify that for every team. But yeah,
I think I think the NCAA, you know, selection committee,
for the most part, gets it right. But like everyone,
there's a couple of teams every year, Like I remember

(14:50):
West Virginia last year, thought they should get in and
maybe they should have, but they didn't. And so I
don't think there's a lot of I guess, complaining going
on when it comes to who gets into the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
I know it's not UCLA or USC but you know,
number one pick in the draft certainly a lot of
people are going to pay attention to. And I don't
remember how much Aja Debantsa got to go to BYU.
I feel like it was like five million bucks or something, but.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Twenty five million, twenty five million.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Dollars had a monster second half in that comeback win
over Clemson. Is he like the de facto number one
is it is there a race for number one? How
close is that? How good is he through whatever it's been?
Not ten games?

Speaker 5 (15:33):
I think he got eight million, man. I mean, you
never know unless you see the contract, but that's what
I heard, that he got eight million. I really liked
the bands. I saw him play a bunch last summer.
He was actually in our gym for a week last
summer or the summer before. Actually, the thing I like
most about him, aside from the obvious the physical tools,

(15:56):
the measurables, his game is just he's really competitive, like
super super competitive. And I think for a lot of
these guys that have been catered to their whole lives
and given everything and through AAU and shoot eels and
all that, to still be that competitive, I think says something.
I think Darren Peterson's in the conversation kid from Kansas,

(16:19):
but I you know, certainly if the banter goes number one,
no one's gonna no one's gonna think twice about that.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
The one and only Don McLain on AM five seventy
LA Sports he is a hero to us all and
a basketball expert at every single level, and he's looking
forward to the two hour drive on the five from
Portland to Eugene. Anything to avoid the Eugene Airport as always.

(16:46):
Uh Don. Everybody loves the Portland Airport, There's no doubt
about that, but that Eugene Airport fogs in fog delays.
I was once had to sleep at the San Francisco
Airport with somebody vacuuming around my head because of a
delay at the Eugene Airport. Now don, when it comes
to the end season NBA tournament, I guess the Lakers

(17:09):
got sort of knocked out or at least set back
last night. You don't work for the Clippers anymore. Does
this thing suck? Does it have legs? Do you like it?
I don't. What do we do?

Speaker 5 (17:23):
I don't think it sucks pee When it first the
first year it happened, I liked it. And I don't
know if it's because I'm not as heavily involved, not
doing the Clippers thing anymore, but it feels like one
of those things where it was it was really good
because it was new, But really, how good is it?
And I think for the players, obviously it's great if
you win the whole thing, you get a half a

(17:43):
million bucks. But I think for the fans, the newness
of it. I think because it was so different and
something brand new that nobody had ever seen. I think
a lot of people liked it, and I did too.
But as a couple of years have gone on, now
am I that do I still think it's that great? Probably?
Not that being said, I don't think it's It's a
disaster either, and something that they should get rid of.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Let's talk disaster. Was there a better way for the
Clippers to say goodbye to Chris Paul? Don?

Speaker 5 (18:13):
Yes? Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (18:15):
What happened? How could it get to that point on
an NBA team run by professional people with a professional GM.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Well, we don't know exactly what happened or what had
been happening. Obviously there was friction between Chris and some
of the players in Tylu and and all that. I
just think the Clippers could have handled that better. They
could have They could have just let him go and
then announced it Monday, or let him finish the trip
and announce it when they got back. I just don't
understand what the what the urgency was, you know, mid

(18:47):
road trip to send him home. It's not like, Okay,
we got rid of Chris Paul and now we're going
to go on a ten game run. That ain't happening anyway.
So I just, you know, I think Chris Paul has
done enough in this league and whether you like him
or not, or you know, he was too much on
your team at this point in his career, he deserves
the respect as as a Hall of Fame player to

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you know, treat him that way, and they really didn't,
and it's kind of it's kind of sad for for
Chris and hopefully his career is not over, but if
it is, it kind of sucks the way it ended.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Well, you know it el sucks.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Is the NBA Cup not coming back to Los Angeles
after the Lakers defense was humiliated last night against the Spurs?

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Is that a real issue?

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Don when you because I think you look at the
makeup of the team and you're like, yeah, you probably
got some serious defensive issues, especially on the perimeter, and
it's playing out that way through whatever it is now
twenty seven games. How concerned should should Laker fans or
should the Lakes? Should should the Lakers be?

Speaker 5 (19:48):
That?

Speaker 2 (19:49):
He seems to be an issue.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Here's how you have to look at it, Matt, Do
you have the personnel to be a good defensive team
and you're just not or do you have good enough
personnel and you're just not buying in and not expending
enough energy on the defensive end. That's the question. Like
if you look at their personnel, I don't look at

(20:11):
those guards and say, man, those guys are lockdown defenders.
They should be able to keep people out of the
paint whenever they want. I think it's more they don't
have the personnel to be a great defensive team. So
now it's on JJ Reddick to help that. Like, you
can't just put guys on islands against guys they can't
stay in front of. You got to develop schemes, play
some zone, do some different things to try and hide

(20:32):
some of that deficiency. And I think as a season
continues to go along, JJ Reddick seems like he knows
what he's doing, and I think he will help in
that regard. But I don't think Look, they're a terrific
offensive team, But I don't think anyone's looking at the
Lakers going, yeah, they're just underperforming on the defensive end.
They should be a great defensive team. I don't think

(20:54):
anybody expects with their personnel to be a great defensive team.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Last one don to go back to the amateur ranks,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna stick my neck out. Hopefully
I don't get uh, hopefully I don't get in some
trouble here. How good are these Ratlift Twins that I'm
reading about that Muscleman got to sign and is now
working his way toward maybe having one of the best
recruiting classes for twenty twenty six. You're familiar with these
dudes from from New York. I was.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
They came in the day I went to USC practice.
I haven't seen them play, but in talking to the
coaches they rave about them. Obviously great pedigree, their dead
THEO played in the NBA for a long time, but
I haven't seen them, so I don't know. But if
you listen to the USC coaches, these guys are like
the next like better than the Boozer Twins, is what

(21:42):
I was told.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Well, remember the Wear Twins.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
I even think they're better than the Wear Twins.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Hey, hey those wear Hey come on, dude, what about
the craven Arabson David? Yeah, what about the what about
the Cravens Eric and Derek?

Speaker 5 (21:59):
I think they'll be than those two.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Okay, what about Loderick and Roderick Rhodes.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
Uh, yeah, they'll be better than those.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
You're right, at least you thought about it.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
Yeah, dude, you remember all those guys.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
You don't want to you don't want to screw up
the difference between Loderick and Rodrick out of the downtown
Seattle area and Eric and Derek were from Bishop Montgomery,
which is local to me. The where twins came back
from North Carolina? Am I correct in saying that.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
No, they're from Orange County?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Oh that's yeah, but they But didn't they go to
North Carolina?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I think?

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. They
did it for a year and then.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
They came back. Yeah, a healthy bosom. Well, if only
the rat lifts can be as great as the wares,
we'll be talking us. Maybe I might go back to
my pa days. Uh. The one and only Don McClane,
Ladies and gentlemen taking Eugene by storm tomorrow. We sure
a pre uh. Don have a great night, and we

(23:03):
appreciate you joining us.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
All right, guys, talk to you next week.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Thanks Don, and we'll be back with more Petro send
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To finish twenty twenty five launched Vietnam Christmas yesterday and Matt,
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three until seven pm at the BJ's Restaurant brew House.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
All right, Matt, Today we celebrate a great Californian. He's
been celebrated in this part of the show and other
parts of the show for many years. A hero to us,
all one hundred and thirty six years old today, farmer,
businessman born in San Berdu. Talking about Walter not Knott.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Oh. This is an annual, not an.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Annual, but we do celebrate the man and things going
on at Notts Verry Farm to this day.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's funny you bring up Not to Verry Farm.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Tonight it's the big MYFM nots Verry Farm party for iHeart.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
You guys go away and get invited. Actually you did
get invited.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
You guys shall take your emails.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Walter Not was the son of a preacher from Santa
Ana up but his dad died of tuberculosis. His mom
moved him to Pacoima, where he grew up and became
very good at farming. Adepted growing produce. He married his

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high school sweetheart, not his middle school sweetheart like Philip
Rivers Matt, but his high school sweetheart, oh Tiff Cordelia Not.
Of course, he made money farming, went to Buena Park
in nineteen twenty three and set up a small berry
stand on a property that he bought with his cousin.

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The stand became a building with a tea room for
Cordelia to sell burgers and sandwiches. When the depression hit,
Not started buying the land around him, and in nineteen
twenty four he introduced the hybrid boison berry, which was
new was created by a guy named Boison. Not went

(26:54):
to his dilapidated farm, got some cuttings, raised his own
boys and berries. Elias started serving fried chicken. The tea
room became a restaurant and the lines were several hours long.
To entertain the waiting crowds, Walter built roadside attractions, exhibits, shops.

(27:17):
He was very interested in the American West, so he
built a Western ghost town. He bought buildings from all
around the West to create it. Then he built a railroad.
Then he built a saloon. The saloon had a saloon show.

(27:37):
They got the Pan for Gold Experience, a San Francisco
cable car, and matt the Calico Mine Train, and the
Timber Mountain Flume log ride. In nineteen sixty nine made
it a full blown amusement park. John Wayne was the

(28:01):
first man to ride the Timber Mountain Flume, which is
still up and running today. Even after Disneyland opened In
nineteen fifty five, knots Berry Farm thrived. The family ran
it and the preserved company as well. They sold the

(28:23):
preserves to Smuckers, and they sold the amusement park to
Cedar Point. He and Cordelia had four kids. After she
died in the seventies, he semi retired to focus on
conservative politics. A rugged individualist, he died at ninety one
in nineteen eighty one, but his legacy of a real

(28:44):
Californian lives on Walter was not courting Californians ever well,
without a doubt, especially if you liked Preserves.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Poison, Perry and Chicken.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
You're a live guy, kind of wild. Everything I looked
at felt like I had just done yesterday. So I decided,
I'm just gonna go with the oldest person, no matter
who it is, and let's see where it gets us.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
It turned out to be pretty sweet.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
This song is k Matt Sadly, Sadly, it wasn't yesterday.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Yeah, it was multiple years ago. For each of those
that I saw, I was like, as Sheila, yeah, I
probably did that ten years ago. Happy ninety six to
Toshiko aki Yoshi, Japan's finest jazz pianist, composer, arranger, bandleader.

(29:35):
Born in Dylan, Manchuria, raised in Japan after World War Two,
aki Yoshi was a piano prodigy and when she heard
her recording of Teddy Wilson sparked a lifelong addiction dedication
to jazz, she was hooked. And while playing over there
it was and the conversation is the greatest jazz pianist ever,

(29:56):
Oscar Peterson was like man. She was good, so he
helped arrange for her to record her first album in
the early nineteen fifties. That put her on the map,
and she had to work through the embassies in order
to gain admission to the States so she could study
at the Berkeley School of Music. It took her over

(30:16):
a year to be able to travel here to study
jazz at Berkeley. She was the school's first Japanese student
and got a reputation in a hurry. She was not
just an exceptional player, but obviously not a lot of
women playing jazz piano, and there were certainly zero Asian
women playing jazz piano, so everyone wanted her in their band.
Charles Mingus had her for a while. She married saxophone

(30:38):
player Charlie Mariano. They had a daughter, all while pioneering
a path that was pretty much unrecognizable to most of
the time. She became her own band leader, her own composer.
She would divorce Charlie and remarry in the early nineteen
seventies her second husband, tenor saxophonist Lutabakan, and they formed

(30:59):
the Toshiko Aki Yoshi lu to back in big band
right here in Los Angeles. I'm sure your pops probably
knows about it. It was the talk of the town.
They said, bold arrangements, cultural fusion, dynamic sound.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
I saw him at the Baked Potato on that.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
They said.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Her compositions were so unique because they integrated traditional Japanese
musical elements with the structure and energy of big band jazz,
Japanese folk, complex harmonies, rhythms. It got too big for La,
so she had to get back to New York. Earned
widespread acclaim, ton of awards nominations, reputation one of the
most original big bands of its time. She had multiple

(31:39):
Grammy nominations, won the NEA Jazz Master Award, the highest
recognition here in the States for jazz, and in December
of two thousand and three, here band played its file
concert at Birdland, where she had their residency, a Monday
Night gig four decades still plays live fiftieth anniversary in Japan.
I don't know if she still plays live now at
ninety six. She did put out her final release in

(32:02):
twenty nineteen, the Eternal duo So Happy ninety six to
so Shiko Okay Yoshi.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Well, do what you're supposed to do. After doing a
Japanese dead or alive guy, you have to say hello
to Sho hey Otani, Yoshi Yamamoto and Roki Sasaki. You
have to give them the high sign.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Pike.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Enjoy the Clipper game. Everybody Hei well, obviously they are
likely to lose. Enjoy it. We're coming back on tomorrow.
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