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Quick hits, Get quick y'all. Where Oh yeah, Dodgers twenty
one and ten on the season, first place atop the
NL West five in a row. They start a ten
game road trip tomorrow we will start to show it
one one o'clock. And they've added some arms to the bullpen.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Matt.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
They claimed the right handed pitcher JP Friarson off waivers
from the Arizona Diamondbacks, acquired right hand pitcher Ryan. Not latos.
It is not latos, no latos, Ryan, Lutos from the
Saint Louis Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Lutos no lutos.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Lutos no lutos for cash considerations. Didn't they get latos
from the Cardinals as well? Late from the Lutos?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
How about that? And he's proud.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
In order to make room on the forty man roster,
they transferred right handed pitchers Michael Kopek and Blake Trying into.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
The sixty day injured list. No Bueno Lakers are out
of the playoffs. What more, naxt and three things Thursday.
Timberwolves did a victory lap after the game last night,
a post directed at Lebron on social media, and then
Anthony Edwards walking from Crypto to the team hotel across
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the street, the rints yelling at fans, how.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Y'all gonna be? Hey?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
How you gonna doday? Weeks?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Hey man?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Thinking it by Hey, damn.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
We were about three.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
One to said leg to say go to hand and
n hey, good guy, do die? Just good guy?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
No die?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Mo hey nord test and I died?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And you mentioned Morris Chestnut Is are your favorite movie
boys in the hud?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
No, that ain't my favorite move my favorite movie? My
favorite movie with two until do you know?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I'm gonna have to check that out.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I've never seen it, are you true?
Speaker 5 (04:55):
I'm I need to go see it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Kind of cool even if he's rubbing it in, well know,
their fan walking out and he's looking at you.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
He's like they said Laggers in five, he's pretty. I mean,
he's great. A lot of us would never walk downtown
at that time. Those of us that used to live there,
that that would do it all the time, would no
longer do it. Matilda though. You think Matilda's really his
favorite movie?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
I do, I do.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
If you're of a certain age, I don't know why
you would like, you know, I don't know if you
say that you mean it. Lebron who's forty years old,
just finished his twenty second NBA season. Uh, this is
going to be a story because he's going to act
like he's not going to play of course, then he
is going to play because he's got a fifty two
million dollar player option next year. Yeah, how is who
we see you play? I don't know. I always just
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let's just not go through the motions.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Ah, my family, my wife, my family, and uh hey yeah,
group and kind of just talk through it and sure
it happens, and.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Then they just have a conversation with myself on how
to continue to play.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's like the whole I'm gonna sit down with my
face shut up.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
It's not how this goes. This is not how this works. Yeah,
you know what you're gonna do. You're just trying to
stay in the media cycle, and you and Aaron Rodgers.
I just can't take it. Well, let's just play hypothetical.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
What if Lebron says, I'm done, I'm forty, I'm out
waiting for Bryce to come.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I'm retiring. How fast is brawny? Then? Traded, traded, traded, released, Yeah, traded,
traded to Lithuania to play for Rhydis Kauzlauskis.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Oh, I love that guy. Clipper's selling meat at the
back of his cars.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Are down three games to two. Those are fine cuts
to the Denver Nuggets must win game six tonight. It's
a can't lose right here on seventy o'clock Tip and Matt.
Speaking of can't lose, Parker Lewis is playing.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
A nice Kings. The damn Oilers have done it again.
Kings are down three to two. They are in Edmonton.
They led to nothing. They've dropped three straight game six Kings.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Pumping the King's colo like an oil Derek at Hawn
Park on Librea Well, Los Siana goa.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That well is almost dry because it's now four straight years.
If they don't rally and overcome this, Oh, every year
they dipped their oil Derek first round Oilers Kings, and
it's again not fair. The Oilers were hurt all season,
didn't have dry sidle for like the last thirty games.
That's why they slide to the spot where they are
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and playing the Kings in the first place, and now
they're healthy.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
That's why I haven't talked hockey for a while because
a matter of fairness, well I don't see this is fair.
And also you're very concerned about the Utah Hockey Club,
and well you know they wouldn't confirm whether Mammoth was
their new name after it allegedly leaked on the team's
official YouTube channel. Tuesday night. Media noticed and so did
the fans, that the channel's handle was changed from at
Utah Hockey Club to at Utah.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Mammoth, which seemed to tell you exactly what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Channel was soon deactivated and remained so this morning, but
not before screenshots of the name change went viral.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
You have to who did it? This was supposed to
be our moment and you ruined it.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Jimmy Crockett's theme, Max, because it's popping off in Miami.
Miami Grand Prix is, Sunday is coming. Fans got a
little worried today when Max were stopping. Wasn't immediate day
in Miami. But don't worry. His bastard's just being born.
Got to be with my bastard. There's another bastard in
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his life, but it's not his Peks No, no, PK's wife.
The bastard is another driver right who they ran out
Half One that is the father to my other bastard.
I don't want him around. I'm an uncle toy Seed.
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Turns out the rating Half One Champ is expecting his
first best art with girlfriend Kenny p K.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And was with her.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Prease idiot, faster, faster, slow, it's too slow, it's faster.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
First stopping us. Expected to be back tomorrow for practice
session and the sprint quatting after the bastard. All right, Matt,
you're gonna talk some hoops next. Not thinking about it, Hey, Dodger,
some tech coming up tomorrow with tonight clips House Nuggets
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tap off at seven on a five seventy without further ado,
It's time for some NBA three things Thursday. Throw it
three thingsters.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
One game. One game separated these two teams. Two games
separated the Lakers from the eight seed Memphis Grizzlies. That
is how tight it was in the Western Conference. To
make it so to make this particular flame out, and
I setting this up for a reason, to make this
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sound like it is a flame out of unforeseen impossibilities,
and what a colossal failure for this particular group. Not fair,
not fair to point out, Hey, as a three, you
guys should have mopped the floor with the Timberwolves. What
I do hope it illustrates is that those in the
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Lebron friendly media that entered this postseason with a you know,
there's maybe three maybe. I mean, you know what, I'm
comfortable just saying three the Thunder, the Lakers, and the Celtics.
That's really the only those are the only teams that
can legitimately win a title. It was asinine. Guys like
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Don McClain, who joined US earlier James Worthy, who joined
US yesterday, repeatedly throughout the postseason said his is gonna
be tough. This is not going to be an easy
postseason because all of these teams are clumped together. They
all have their strengths, and a lot of it's gonna
come down to execution, to strategy, to how these players
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are playing in the final five minutes of games, like
so many of these games come down to. And the
Lakers were woeful, they were miserable, they were an abject
failure in those moments, and it's why they were humiliated.
And I'd say the big takeaway for me from this
game is they got lucky. They got absolutely lucky that
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they lost this game one hundred and three to ninety six.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Are you saying that they were dominated? They were dominated.
I mean they did take a lead in the fourth quarter.
JJ Reddick said it was about misshots. It was not
about Rudy Gobert just yelling at them.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And like, no, I completely agree with JJ. It was
about mishots. If the timber Wolves just make five more
of their wide ass open threes, and those threes were
wide open all night. I have never seen a team
miss more wide ass open threes than that. And the
threes were open, and then the guys underneath were also
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what they they got offensive rebounds. I believe half of
their baskets came off of offensive rebounds, half of all
offensive rebounds. They went seven for forty seven. I'm not
even gonna say double that to get up to whatever
that would be, I don't know, thirty whatever percent. If
you just give them five more to get to twelve
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for forty seven, that's operating at a twenty five percent
clip instead of fifteen percent clips, still very low. Talk
about a twenty point blowout, and that's what that game
looked like, and it looked like it and thin. And
I know that JJ Reddick can be super sad when
he's talking about the TNT coverage of this league and
why do they have to be so mean? And why
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why do they think the ratings are down when they're
being so mean they're being mean because they see it.
And that's the one thing that makes the TNT coverage
so good is if they see it, they don't hold back.
They talk about it at halftime when Charles said or
whichever one of them said, hey, man, I can tell
you right now when they came out of that tunnel,
that was straight up one two three can coon.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
There is no question about it. And you could see
it from the second that they were flat. The crowd
was flat, right, Laker Twitter was flat. It was over
before it started. Sh Shannon Shannon Sharps nowhere to be found.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Nowhere to be found. He's knee deep in legal papers.
You could see it from the start. So the fact
that they only lost this game by seven, my.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
TV career is barely alive. Lakers in five.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Has a ring to it. Shaysha can't wait to hear
the pod today.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Unk.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah, they were bullied, they were humiliated. They missed shots,
they couldn't execute, like they were choked by a big,
giant Hall of Fame tight end hand. Exactly right, Uh,
they essentially. I mean, I don't I hope this doesn't
sound too to I don't know, mean, I guess I
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could to say mean, they got what they deserved. This
team got what they deserved.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
It kind of just came all came around and everything
everybody said at the beginning. Yeah, I mean, look, I said,
I thought they were going to make the conference finals.
So I'm that Uh. But JJ Reddick inexperienced coach, he
was not good in this series, deeply exposed Lebron James Old,
deeply exposed Luka Doncic fat, and deeply exposed what happens
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to fat people. They get sick and they get their
back hurt. Trust me, I know I need to do
more asks.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Yeah, you know when that start with the offseason and
the work that's required in an offseason to be in
chimp in ship shape. And you know, we we have
a ways to go as a roster, and certainly there
are individuals that there's certainly other ones that better shape.
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That's where my mind goes immediately, is you know, we
have to get in championship shape.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Never a discussion when they were flying high at the
end of the regular season. Never once was that brought up.
Nobody said, you know, we got to be a little
worried about Luca's because Luca was cleaning house. I mean,
he was playing at an all NBA level. And that's
why everybody made them the third favorite the behind Oklahoma
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City and Boston to win the NBA Championship, because they
closed the season playing great basketball, and nobody talked about
it because and because it's no doubt, but you have Lebron,
James Luka, Doncic, Austin Reeves is being talked about as
the best number three piece of any of the contenders,
and they've got a legitimate big three and he played
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absolutely terrible. And as you said, you get Look, we
talked about it when the Chargers lost that game to
the Texans. It's like in the playoffs, whatever your faults are,
they get exposed because you're playing really good teams. And
what happened in that game they couldn't block up the middle,
and they didn't have any dynamic weapons on the outside,
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and they turned the ball over and they took a
bunch of sacks and they lost the game.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I'm stupid. So whenever I say something about basketball, you know,
I get.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You know, Rudy Gobert had a Wilt Chamberlain Knight. Nobody
but Wilt had ever done that in a playoff game.
Twenty seven points, twenty rebounds, and the Lakers had no answer.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So sad. Not since Val Jean dug that kid out
of the galleys has there been such a French victory.
Not since the the Count de Monte Cristo got out
of the Chateau d'ef and. And I mean that was
the revenge arc. Yeah, you know, because Luka Doncic was
Jah last year. I rooly three in face right, you know.
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And he was like saying in Slovenian, you dirty Frenchman. Yes,
you sick in me. You have butt worms, That's what
he said. And the Frenchman was like, you know, yeah
he came back.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I do have butt worms.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Oh he definitely got his revenge. Uh And and I
do think in part one of the reasons why is
and this is what we talked about with JJ when
he was hired. He's so condescending, he's so arrogant.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, all that stuff just came back. All that stuff
came back. The balloon really popped. It really did.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
To go into the game, to go into the game
and say, well, let's just go to his pre the
pregame press.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Let's set the tone, set the tone you're saying that
because I'm inexperienced, and that was an inexperienced decision that
I made. Do you think I don't talk to my
assistance about substitutions every single time out?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
No, I just think there's a lot of coaches lean
on their assistance in those situations as do every single time.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
That's a weird assumption, drop the mic and walk out,
And none of them said, Hey, we might want to
get Luca or Lebron or Austin Reeves a blow. We
might want to just you know, end of the third,
start of the fourth, what do you think about two
and a half minutes, four minutes, Maybe let's just get
him a blow because they look really heavy legged, because
one's old and one's fat, and they could And that's
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the other thing. If you're going to come out on
your exit interview and accuse Luca of being out of
shape and he's got to have a championship mindset to
get in shape for next year, I don't know. Don't
play him forty six minutes in Game four could have been.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
In better shape.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Don't play him forty minutes when he leaves the court
with a back ah and he still plays forty minutes.
Maybe if you know he's not in shape, you've got
to figure that out with your rotation.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
How surprised do you think that weirdo was that he
threw in the game in the flavor? Yeah me, Maxy,
get me MAXI Seriously, it's like freaking I've never even
practiced with you guys. It's like allie in and then
when he steps out of I mean he steps out
of bounds taking the corner three before he attacks, and
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JJ rolls his eyes. It's like, you don't get to
roll your eyes. And a guy that hasn't played in
forty five games and doesn't practice with you, Hey, T
and T directing genius every time go Beart was like
throwing it down. They went to Jackson Hayes on the
bets and.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
He was like, how are you gonna tell? How are
you going to tell the media before the game even
tips Jackson's not gonna play? Like what the hell does
that do for you? What type of message does it
send that we have not been able to control these
big guys I've got. You know, he's challenged, for sure.
The minutes have not looked good, but at least he's
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six or eleven and can rim run a little bit
and do what Luca likes to do offensively and give
some guys a break so Lebron doesn't have to guard
Julius Randall and get his chest punched off on nine
different possessions. I mean, yeah, Jackson will likely not be
available tonight, and freaking Maxie Kleeber comes off the bench.
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I mean it, it really put a magnified he did
on what an a hole and a stubborn c.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
This every single time. That's a weird assumption. Did he
say sorry?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
No, he said all right, all right, good, good for you,
ray Sean, all right, yeah, it's a fair question because
no one can believe you played the same five guys
for twenty four minutes only to watch him blow a
ten point lead.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
And that's the other thing. It's kind of like how
they had to talk Mike Leach down from having a
little person thrown over the line.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
And whoever did that should be ashamed of themselves.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Like there's a reason no one, there's a reason no
one's ever done.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
This because they're not as smart as me. They're not
as smart as me, Mike Leach, who's going to stop
hike what an a hole that would tell him we
can't do that. What a complete a hole for not
giving us that moment. It should have been shot. And
can you imagine if the little person was met at
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the peak of the pile and just swatted down like
Rudy Gobert was swatten shots all over the place out there.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
We've brought the center in from the team on the goal?
Was that the football?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
No, that was a little person, but that I think
to me watching it last night and seeing lebron is
typically inconsolable. He's a real a hole in these moments
when he can't add to his legacy and chase the ghost.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Well, he said that somebody painted on his garage. He
had the fake cast on his hand, right, did a
cliff dive there exactly? And what did he do last night?
Joking grabb an ass what about needing a center? Who
when ad said it, they shipped him out. So I
better not saying anything, right, Hey, Bronnie, I'll see you
next season. Have a good offseason. Because he knew, because
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he knew he was completely destroyed in that Game four
and that this series was over, that he had no
legs left. Because he's an old man and that Luca's
got nothing left because he's fat, and that their coach
completely sabotaged him by trying to run this I'm gonna
play my guys all twenty four minutes. And that's why
you saw him come out flat and not give a
rip and walk off the court with a big smile
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on his face like it wasn't that big of a deal.
I've never seen anybody coach I guess I see it
in football all the time because of the air raid
And I was shocked when it started, you know, when
the air raids started, like what are they doing? Like
this is not this is wrong. Everything they're doing is
is it kills your defense? It doesn't, you know, like
all the things that everybody talks about over the year.
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Defense is playing thirty five minutes a game? What do
we do it?
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Right?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Like?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
So you watch that and you just say, you know,
what is this? You know, and it's it's coaching arrogance,
it's coaching hubris, and you don't you you just usually
don't see that at this level with this type of athlete.
I mean, you've got Luka, Doncic and Lebron James out there.
I mean, you know, it's like an F one car
of athletics, and you're making decisions like that, You're right,
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I mean you're totally sabotaged down to the tread keep
going totally immature codes.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah yeah, and stubborn and like you said, Hubris arrogance, Like,
it's not just the inexperience, it's the it's the rigidity,
it's the unwillingness to accept that you don't have the answers.
Chris Finch is coaching circles around you right now. Rudy
Gobert has not had a good first four games, but
the second you're like, yeah, I'm gonna go small this
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whole game. Jackson Hayes ain't gonna plays like Rudy. I
think guys launch up as many threes as you want.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Play the Marseilles.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
We're gonna clean house on the offensive glass. We'll get
put backs. I'm fine with this.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Uh. Anthony Edwards was zero for eleven.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, I guess what five of those miss we got
offensive rebounds and put backs because he had Lebron at center,
who was getting the absolute ass kicked out of him
by all my bigs because he refused to bend and adjust.
So and you know, to JJ's credit, he's not a
dumb guy. The first thing he does is nobody's harder
on me than me. I'm here to take take. I
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absolutely take a lot of this blame. I'm a young
coach and I'm gonna learn and I'm gonna get better.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Believe you me. It's like he watched he had to
look at Twitter all night. Oh yeah, he's a smart guy.
But he's so smart that he's an idiot. That's where
the rigidity comes in, exactly. And so.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
It's I do think the team potentially could have been
good enough to make a run. It was mismanaged horribly
by Polinka. How you're gonna nix a Mark Williams trade,
which I firmly believe came off Twitter coming after him?
Oh my god, they gave up a one and connect
another one for this guy who's been beat up three
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of his four years.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
And do you think they just gave up on the trade? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I think they were like, uh this, Yeah, we don't
want if he busts his knee, this is a bad look.
Two ones and Connects playing really well already. And and
I think they just failed the physical because they could
get away with it and you look at Mark Williams
his final five games.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I don't know, just thirty minutes per game average fifteen
and ten shot sixty percent. Seems like that's a guy
that might have been able to help a little bit
instead of freaking out and overreacting to the reaction of
what decision you decided to make, Matt, what a run?
Five games? Five games and clubs? Oh well, it's not
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only closed, it's under investigation.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Atf you know it is. I gotta say, Matt, I
mean it's a that it's a real quick turnaround, like
everything was great, right and now we're just Cofferen's Finals.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
It's like it's like when go Bear's throw up and okay,
see you're like, all right, call it off, Call off
the whole world, Stop the whole world. Club Shaysha's closed.
Lebron's going now, Lebron will do something. It's coming weeks
to bring attention to himself. Yeah, it's coming, Love God,
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Birthday of the Day coming up next. We were right
this crunching groove Thursday mercifully coming to an and a
big thank you to Don McLean and Joe Hortiz. Everything
could be podcast on the iHeartRadio app for your smartphone,
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or streamed live in the moment today Matt beating out
one of the great writers. Catch twenty two is a
book everybody should read. Joseph Heller but born in West
Virginia one hundred and sixty one today. Today's birthday of
the day is Anna Jarvis. Yeah, Jarvis, turn it up.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Ninth of eleven children, and most of them died in
infancy or early childhood. Anne Jarvis's mother is pretty remarkable lady.
She was a social activist. Her name was Anne Marie Jarvis.
She was a Civil War community organizer, very active in
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the church. Oh turn it up? Do you want to
bang hands with me? I like the live Versionaire. This
is a legendary live version from the John Stewart Show
on MTV Beautiful. Oh hear it? Turn it up, Keith,
if you want to run help with me. Ann went
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to college at Mary Baldwin University, Home of the Flying Squirrels.
She had success in Philadelphia Flying squirrel cared for her
semi famous mother until she died. I mean we're talking
about you know, Civil War era, right, easy to die? Sure.
Anne was so inspired by her mother that. On May tenth,
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nineteen oh eight, three years after her mother died, Jarvis
wrote a big thing and sent a big thing of
carnations to a memorial ceremony to honor her mother and
all mothers at Methodist Episcopal Church in Grafton, West Virginia,
which is now the Mother's Day Shrine, a big landmark
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in Grafton, West Virginia. Yes, it was proclaimed nationally that
there would be a Mother's Day, and Anne Jarvis is
the woman behind it. She tried to keep it sentimental.
She used the carnations because the carnations stay tight and
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hold on to their bud until they die. They don't
fall off like a mother. They hang on till death.
The white carnation was for the dead mothers, the red
for those still living. The floral owned industry Matt took
it and ran. By the nineteen twenties, carnations would sell out.
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She made no profit off Mother's Day and resented the commercialism.
Hated printed cards, calling people lazy and saying you bring
your mother candy, but you eat most of it. You go, Oh,
you know, that's an accurate statement for a lot of folks.
She was never married, She had no children. It is
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said that floral companies paid for her funeral costs.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Oh thank you, you've made us a considerable sum and
we didn't give you a s.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
She struggled against the candy greeting card industry and the flowers.
Anna Jarvis, Happy Mother's Day.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
You're a Live Guy, incredibly underrated here at home, but
wildly celebrated in the UK. I could have done British News,
but our subject today was from an Irish family and
had to deal with the slings and arrows that come
of being an irishman. In nineteen seventy Swayede super overshadowed
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by Pulp, Blur, The Verve and all the bands that
came after them.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I love Swade, We're Swede, but Pulp kicked our as.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yes, here in the US they had to be called
the London Swede because I'm a freaking torch singer sued him.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
BS. Torch songs are important to Matt.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Huge deal in the UK, number one album on their debut,
Are a Live Guy is a big reason for their
success and a big reason for their demise. Happy fifty fifth.
Bernard Butler, child prodigy on the guitart sort of considered
one of the all time greats had busting out licks
and rifts and chords, So we mentioned Irish, North London,
not the easiest of upbringings. When he was eight he
started to learn how to play the violin. He said
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that would get him beaten up and spat out on
the bus, along with his being Irish. But then he
heard his older brother's copy of Hand in Glove and
his older brother didn't have the commitment for his electric guitar,
so our man Bernie grabbed it and would sit every
night listen to every note, not on cassette on vinyl.
He had to figure this out, how is Johnny Marr
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doing this? And that's how he became proficient without ever
having a formal guitar. Lesson Mar was his guide. He
was his own teacher. The London Swede started out as
a Smith's David Bowie Cure cover band until Brett Anderson
and Justine Frishman decided to take a shot right.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Start that way over there. Yet I was looking for
a job and then I found a job. They were
at University College London. It's going okay.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
They realized, though, in their new Adventure of Originals, that
they could not play the guitar, so they put an
advert in NMMY and what do you know, nineteen year
old Bernard Butler sees it, shows up auditions. They're floored.
They settle on the name Swede. They get a following
from playing NonStop around Camden Town, London. This one animal
night rate top ten in the UK. They played the
brit Awards. It was a unique sound for the time.
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They were labeled as the next Smith's. The height was ridiculous.
They hadn't even released an album yet, just three singles,
and the music press was all over him the hottest
band in the UK. When their self titled debut came out,
swayed It entered the British charts at number one. One
hundred thousand copies sold in the first week, the most
since Frankie Goes to Hollywood's Welcome to the Pleasure Tell.
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The press called it the most eagerly awaited debut since
never Mind the Bollocks. They toured, they were all over
Europe's MTV, trying to conquer America, and while they were here, unfortunately,
Bernie's father passed the band, not understanding when he wanted
to take some time off, and the riff was built
he was just twenty three. Uh, there was a vacuum,
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so Blur and Oasis and Paul filled the hole. Suede
was bummed, Butler was just happy to be away from him.
His message to Anderson on his way out, you're a
F and C like Joe Myers and Bill McDonald.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Me right.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
He did a bunch of stuff after that, some solo
works with you know, a bunch of bands like Amy
Mann and Libertines, Pretenders, Black Kids, all that sort of
tricky pet shop boys. Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
He is now a radio presenter, Cool Cools nerds man.
It's all my side, Cools Nerds, your side, my side man,
it's all bully man. It's just tough enough to be yourself,
isn't it, though, Tim Kats doesn't have to be himself tonight. No,
it's breathing oudam Oslems, breathing up a.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Storm, trying to inspire the Clippers live Game six at
the end of a dome tip off at seven right
here on AM five seven and Englewood is alive with
vague hope.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Going tomorrow one o'clock. Your hope is vague mhm