A Crunchy Groove Thursday (Hour 4) 7/17/25

Matt and George give you a fun fact + Quick hits and your Dead & Alive Guy!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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you see me.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Feel?

Speaker 3 (00:09):
He's why you feel, He's why you deve.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Tim You Night, Smart Christ.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Show, Some Money AM five to seventy l A Sports
Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio at final hour, full four
hour show. Back to sort of our regular summer schedule tomorrow.
Dodgers Baseball back with the Brewers in town. Brewers, of course,
swept them in the penultimate series before the All Star Break,
taking three in Milwaukee, and they come into this series
having won seven in a row. Dodgers won two of

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three against San Francisco to kind of salvage what was
that seven game losing streak going into those final two wins.
That'll be a seven to ten PM first pitch, Dodgers
on deck at six. Let's quickly get you your final
hour Fun facts.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Fact, Yeah, we're three. Fun fun fact.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
George Reister here in for P'll be back tomorrow. Georgia.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Ever been to Asia? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Okay, have you ever had an orange in Asia?

Speaker 4 (01:07):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
The first oranges from Southeast Asia were actually green. In fact,
oranges in tropical regions to this day in Vietnam and
Thailand still stay green all the way through maturity, you
could have an orange that is actually green. And I
do believe we've done a fun fact in the past

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where the color orange was named after the fruit. The
fruit was not called an orange because it's orange. The
color orange is known as orange because that was the
name of the fruit. And yet these in Asia are green. Wow,
you follow that? Was that too much?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Was that kind of No?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
I don't know if that kind of got a little
too white.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
But I have had an Asian cantalope.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Though now those are supposed to be like people pay
like fifty bucks to ship those things over.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
I paid one hundred bucks for one hundred Asian market
because I'm a huge foodie and.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
And I had slious canope. So it's a candlelope. Wait
or is it a honeydew?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
It was a honey It's a honey yes, yes, and
so so, and it's got like a little handlebar at
the top. And I was just shocked. So so I'm
in the store and I had seen it a few
times prior. It was like a viral thing for a while. Yes, yes,
And then I said I'm not gonna do it. And
then the next time I was in there a few
months later, I was like, I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, I'm gonna do it. Oh yeah, I got that
NFL money, I'm gonna do it. I got a picchion,
how many years I played in the league, I got
a pension.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I'm gonna do it. I'm such a foodie that I
will try anything. So when I go to a new place,
I always overorder because I'm just gonna try it. Yeah,
I just want to try everything. So this thing was available,
and I put it in the.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Refrigerator, I was hit behind lock and key, like you
can't just go feel around the hound.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Can No, no, no, no, no, no, it's a it's
a protected in a box.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
But you can just lift it up, Yes and walk
into the cash. Yeah, you don't have to have them
unlock a thing or something.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
They trust you at the market.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
I guess. So how about that not at a CVS
or right you can't get right aid's out of business,
but it's unfortunately yeah, but CVS, Yes, And when I
finally ate it, so it comes with an instruction manual.
But the thing in the instruction manual is manual, like
it comes with a little pamphlet, and so about like

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telling you the history of it and and how it
has grown, and I'll tell you how to eat it correct.
And they don't tell you when it's ripe either, So
I'm just guessing. I left it in the refrigerator for
like a week. Turns out I should have left it
on the counter.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
I was going to say, normally, fruit, you'll leave on
the counter.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, But but I was nervous because I paid a
hundred bucks for it, and then I was going to
be gone for a couple of days, so I didn't
want it to go bad. So it was in there
for maybe five days. So I'm like, there's no way
it's not right now. But turns out it's like an avocado.
It's like putting an avocado in the refrigerator. It extends
its shelf life about like times five. So I pulled

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it out, cut it, and it wasn't right. I was
so upset, and so I didn't get a chance to
have the full experience. And neither have I bought another
one hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
No, I can't imagine, Like I I like melon, I'm
good with melon, and people swear by it. They say
just that it literally moderates into your mouth.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
And it's the sweetest I want. I wanted that.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
You know, I'm good every now, like I think for me,
I'm an orange guy. Not because of the fun fact,
but yeah, I don't know if you've ever had and boy,
we're getting super highbrow here. Talk about relatable to a
sports talk radio audience. One hundred dollars, honeydew, and I'm
telling you about the Cara Kara orange. Okay, you wrap
your lips around a Carra car, get a car. So

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this is the interesting thing about the carrakaras is they're
grown here central California, so it's, you know, California oranges
kind of thing. But the Asian market pays such a
premium for them that they just basically ship them all
over there. They're like, we can't set there, Like why
would we send to your local grocery because we won't
pay for it. Yeah, they're like, Americans aren't gonna pay

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twenty bucks for my bag of Cara cars, but over
in Japan they're gonna give me thirty bucks.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Are they worth?

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yes, they are the best.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
So I gotta get two separate things.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yes, Now you got to get the Cara cars. Okay,
all right, quick hits.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Some prems, quick hits, some make it quick y'all.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
First full day of team workouts, I was out at
the bolt doing my charger duties in El Segundo. Jim
Harbaugh met the media for about twenty five minutes. And
from the moment, and I know you've been around Harbaugh, George,
and you know when you can tell he's gonna go,
He's gonna get on one. It's like from the first
sixty seconds I looked over at a couple of the

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beat where I was like, Oh, yeah, we're going, We're
gonna be here for a while. Harbas's feeling it. He
went through and obviously the Trump stuff was a big deal,
and so I think it was probably something he thought about, like,
oh this might and he's like, I've met six presidents
and first ladies. It's something I've been blessed to do.
When we get the invite, the Harbaughs go as a family.
So we kind of detailed the stuff with Trump and

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how he was asking him about Herbert, are you gonna
get him? And all that kind of stuff. He then
added that and we played it a little bit earlier
that he remembers all twenty two foul balls. He caught
as a kid and detailed them well as you heard
when we played it earlier. He said, listen, you remember

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all he said, thirteen of them were when he and
John were at Tiger Stadium when no one was going
and they went to the upper deck and anytime a
foul ball went up there, that there were basically nobody
there at the time, so they would track down a
bunch of them. But he also pointed out that even
still today as a whatever, he is, sixty year old

(07:03):
guy and he had a glove.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
He brings his glove.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
He brings his glove.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
Of course he does the coaches in cleats. Yeah, he
coaches in cleats like he's getting ready to go up
just just in case they need me, right exactly, he
takes his glove. And then of course the big thing
that yeah, he's excited for football.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, of course I do have a question for you though. Yeah,
because the Mike Williams yeah retired.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
That felt out of the blue a little bit, right,
I mean, you can you know, like we were kind
of talking about it earlier and you can speak to it.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
I think.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Look, Mike is one of my favorite guys I've ever
been around. Anyone that's been around him will tell you
he's truly one of the nicest people you'll meet. And
he comes into the league neck injury two years later,
back injury. Two years later, boom blows out. You know,
Brandon Staley decides to make him a slot receiver. He's
a six foot three stork. You know what we're gonna

(07:58):
We're put you in the slot. Yeah, gets his new
is leg knocked off, and I think it's just like,
I'm not doing that. That is not doing it anymore.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
That makes sense because as a guy who got injured
a few times, there comes a point where you it's
not that you lose the love for football, it's that
you just don't want to be hurt anymore, and you
don't want to do everything that it takes to get
ready to play football. And you have to still have

(08:26):
that passion for the preparation because there's not enough money
in the world. And we see it with NBA NFL
players all the all the time, like some of the
guys who don't really want to do it, even though
that they like the like the Ben simmons Is of
the world. He loves being an NBA player, but he

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doesn't love playing basketball, and so everybody. Of course, if
you're gonna pick up millions of dollars in checks, you're
gonna show up. But sometimes there comes a point where
you don't want to do And probably if he could
pick up, you know, the six eight million dollars, however
much he was gonna gonna make and do it NBA

(09:08):
style because it was guaranteed and just kind of I
don't really feel like playing it right here, then maybe
he probably would have picked it up. But that's not Yeah,
it's not in football.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
It's a bummer, a heck of a player. Some of them,
you know, from this era of Charger football, some of
the most iconic catches particularly.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Change their their trajectory because yeah, I think the well
their wide receiver room is not exactly what happened. Yeah,
what time is it?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
It's like six so five, about four hours ago? Five
hours ago?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Bang, Trey Harris signed all the second of all of
a sudden, you're in Trey, how much guarantee money you want?

Speaker 1 (09:46):
You got it done? That was quick.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
So uh so Trey Harris who they drafted to be
an ex you know, and and uh we Sawkeandre Lambert
Smith out there, and you know, he's not a big guy,
but he's a fast guy. So he got the four
to three speed there that can maybe play outside. I
mean the thing that and again, you know, not to
get too deep into it because we already kind of
talked about it earlier. But if you miss it, like
the thing that I've noticed about Harbaugh and I think
the players appreciate, he is always going to opt for

(10:11):
an internal solution first. He's gonna give you a chance. Hey,
Mike's out, well, Jalen Rager, Trey Harris, KeAndre Lambert Smith,
show me something in the next week, next five training
camp practices and we're not going to go shopping. But
if you don't like last year with aj Finley, hey
you're an undrafted free agent, you want to get that
third safety spot, show me when he couldn't show them,

(10:32):
that's when they went out and got Elijah Mold. Yeah,
so I think that's probably how they'll work it. But
it was funny that that's signing. Trey Harris has been signed.
It's done, so it was done. But obviously they knew
last night about Mike, so my guess is they accelerated
that negotiation with Trey so that's what they'll do. Justin
Herbert was wearing red UV protection contact lenses. It practiced today,
said he tried using Advisor previously but did not like

(10:55):
to have to wipe it off repeatedly, so he is
trying these lenses that will protect his eyes and help
him out throwing the football. Seemed like it was all
right last year until that playoff game. And of course
big news. T J. Watt is now the highest paid
non QB and NFL history, surpassing the annual salary.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
It's like a second hundred million dollars.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah that Miles Garrett signed one hundred and twenty three
million dollars over three years, one hundred and eight of
it guaranteed, So forty one now tops Miles Garrett's lot.
Havem mur forty right, but premium position right quarterback, left tackle,
wide receiver and defensive end, YEP and corner. And that's

(11:41):
how you get paid. But to put a button on
the NFL. Here in quicckets George, two weeks we are
two weeks away from a football game and Campton the
Hall of Fame game.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
We had training camp, touted game. I cannot count that game. Well,
I have to have to be there. Oh well, I
won't disparaged again. I appreciate it is it is.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
It is an I sord I selfishly for me, it's great. Well, one,
I get paid per game, so selfishly.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
It's yeah, you're like, let's play twenty six.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
But two, as someone who you know talks about this
team NonStop through the stuff I do with the team,
the back like the the passion that fans have for
the back end of the roster and who's going to
be player fifty one, fifty two, and fifty three is hilarious.
And so this is a great game for that. It's
like very true starters aren't even gonna sniff it. Backups

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aren't gonna sniff it.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yes, that's what I'm saying. So that's that's my only
thing about it is that you may have maybe three
players playing in the game, maybe four that make the
roster right maybe.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
So I think the one thing for us here in
southern California, that's cool and I'm excited to see because
and I know you know him and you followed his career.
I think he is, you know, the best high school
quarterback I ever saw play. And that's Djungalilay and what
he was doing at Bosco and so you know he's
an undrafted free agent for the Chargers. He's looked really good. Yes, yes,
he's looked really really like I think he's looked better

(13:12):
than Trey Lance.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
So so in all honesty and transparency about DJ, I
believe that in seeing him because we all remember when
he went to Clemson and then the Notre Dame game,
like he didn't just get lucky. I think that he
had a good game, and then the next year when
he was going to become the starter, I think at

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some point in time he lost confidence. And at the
quarterback position, when you lose confidence, it's one of the
hardest things to get back. And I think that he
was trying, like he did everything in his power. He
changed his body, he was trying to be a great leader,
like all of those things he did really well. I
think it was the confidence in what he was doing.

(13:55):
And then he was trying to be too perfect after that,
and then the Florida State said suations fell apart and
it wasn't even his fall, the whole thing fell apart. Yeah,
So hopefully that this is an opportunity for him and
he takes advantage of it because because he's a good dude.
I like him, I like his brother, so I'm rooting

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for him.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Well, like you said it, George, if DJ needs confidence,
there is not a head coach on Earth that is
better at planting the seeds of confidence in his players
than Jim Harbaugh.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
That is a fact. The way he loved up Justin
Herbert last year, you would have thought he wanted him
to marry his daughter. Oh yeah, he does.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
I think he does.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
To the World of Golf.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
First round of the British Open in Ireland, and you've
got some interesting names at the top. Most recognizable is
Scottie Scheffler tied for sixth at three under, Ricky Fowler
at two under. So you got some of the old
guard Justin rose Lee Westwood, a lot of old dudes
at the top of the British Open out there at
Royal Port Rush as they will get the second round

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underway around eleven pm our time. Lakers Clippers summer league
teams both playing tonight in Las Vegas. But the big
NBA news George Damian Lillard with that sad moment to
end his season with the Bucks, ends his career with
the Bucks the torn Achilles on the Stretch provision. He
is headed back home. Kind of cool to see him

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go back to Portland. He signed a three year deal
to head up there to kind of be that old guard,
that old vet to usher in all these new young players.
A lot of people excited about the youth movement in
Portland's probably a pretty good dude to help them in.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
I mean, I mean, I guess he's gonna help help
coach this next season.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
He won't be playing, so maybe he can be a
good unk around the liner room. He can be you
Donnas Haslam or something. Oh. I mean, obviously the Portland
people were very sad that he left, but I also
think that Dame was like, obviously, you know, his family,
all his family had moved to Portland, right, and so

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he's like, I want to be back close close to
my family all of that stuff. And also I think
he's probably giving up hopes of that elusive championship that
he hoped for and it didn't materialize out there in Milwaukee.
And that's one of those things that is honestly hard

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in sports, because at some point in point in time,
every player has to realize oh, because when you when
you first go into the league, every player basketball, football, baseball,
all of this stuff. Of course, they want to make
the team, they want to be a starter, they want
to be all those things. But every kid from the
time that they're young thinks about going to the Hall

(16:41):
of Fame. And there comes a point in your career
where you're like, oh, damn, I'm not I'm not going
to the Hall of Fame, and you have to It's
something that you have to more that you have to
be like, okay, So Dame is probably at that point, Damn,
I'm not gonna win a championship, and you have to
be okay with that and be okay with the rest
of your career because that's something that in all the

(17:03):
other successes that you've had, that that's the one that
you can't work hard enough for. That you can't you know,
sacrifice enough for. It requires good teammates, a good organization,
it requires right, Yeah, it requires so many things to
break your way. And now he's probably saying, all right,

(17:23):
for my quality of life, and yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
And they overpaid to get him. I mean, you're not
playing this year?

Speaker 1 (17:29):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Adam three, forty forty two, three to forty two.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
So about fourteen million a year last year as a
player option. Oh and by the way, he's still getting
paid by the Bucks, So he's making seventy million this
year one hundred and forty over the next two years
because the Bucks used that stretch provision. I don't think
i've been used since the Lakers did with lu Al
Dang or Mo's got.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Or they're still paying them.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Well, they were doing that when they when they gave
them that one time exception where.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
They Alan know it all Houston amnesty, Yes, yeah, it
was a provision. Yeah, would stretch it over.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
And Houston got it. Gilbert Renas.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yeah, remember it was Mark Cuban calling out Kobe, this
should amnesty him, and there was the amnesty that sweet
from him after a big game against Dallas exactly.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, So this is the new amnesty provision basically stretched.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
These are the biggest buyouts that we've ever seen. The
Damian Lillard and then.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Bradley Beal got a million bucks from the Suns. Yeah. Yeah,
that's Dame Walks.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
So Bradley Beal could run with that stretch provision now.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, and then and then he signs for it with
the with with the Clippers.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
What two years, eleven game with a player option, hopefully
play something, But that's reason million dollars.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
That's really He's like, I can come here to play
for cheap. Yeah, because I'm getting I'm.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Still getting a hundred million dollars.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Oh man, it must be nice to get over like that. Boy.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
I will say, though, it was just I don't know
if anybody like really accentuated it enough. Like you lose
thirteen point nine million dollar, that's a lot of money.
It is, even if you're making a hundred million bucks.
You're like, you know what, keep your fourteen million bucks.
I'm good getting out of here. I'm gonna leave fourteen

(19:10):
million on the table to get Hell, he.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Could get it somewhere somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
If he plays well, he'll get it on the back
end here of the Uh. You know, if he plays
well with the Clippers, he can opt out of that
second year and maybe go out and get a fifteen
to twenty million dollars a year.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
I prefer to think it's about his commitment to winning
that he's willing to leave that on the table.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
He knows he's with the Clippers, man, Yeah, stop it
and it was funny when Bradley Bill was with the
Wizards and and you know, he was making All Star teams.
I remember saying to my best friend, I said, and
when when they're started to be talk about him getting
traded at the Phoenix, I was like, you know, one
one thing that we've never heard and unhappy Bradley Bill

(19:53):
because he's over with the Wizards. He was over with
the Wizards. They were terrible. Yeah, and there's no we
need to get some hell yeah, there's no rumblings. O. Good.
That means that you that's the player that you do
not want.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
He negated trades. Yeah, no trade cause I was like, Nope,
not going to Miami, not not doing it.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I don't want to go anywhere and win. I'm comfortable
here into that.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
You're the dummy that gave me the contract. I like
the district. I'm good with the Chili Bowl. I'm happy here.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Caitlin Clark not gonna do anything for the w NBA
All Star Weekend because she's got that groin injury. Dodgers
Angels off for the All Star Break. Five and a
half game lead for the Dodgers in the West, Angels
nine games back in the division, but just four of
the wild card in just two under five hundred. So
something to keep an eye on over the two weeks
as they get started here. If they can get off
to a hot start, maybe they aren't sellers. And we

(20:47):
talked to Dan Wolkin earlier. You're gonna hear that conversation
in the very next segment, so he'll get into the
whole NIL situation and Donald Trump, who wants to do
an executive order to try.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
To solve all the issues, and it's not going to
solve the issues. It's gonna still go to court. You
can sign whatever executive order is that you want to,
the court still have to solve it. And collective bargain.
I've been saying this for years. So I testified in
front of the Senate Judiciary Committee on NIL a few
years ago, and I'm like, we need collective bargaining. That

(21:23):
is the only way. Yes, But but that requires the SEC,
Big ten, Big twelve, and the ACC as the prominent
conferences to say, oh my gosh, our our commissioner Greg
Sankie petit all the right rest of them have to
give up power and there has to be one central organization.

(21:45):
It's going to happen. It's just gonna be by force.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
As far as those folks, Yeah, that's what I say.
It's gonna be about force. It ain't gonna be bout Troy.
We'll dig deeper into that when we return. Dan WOLKEINU
as we make our way towards seven PM. George Reister
and for Petros here on seventy LA Sports, Petro sand
Money Am five seventy LA Sports Live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. Dodger Baseball back tomorrow, a lot of football

(22:10):
talk today. Chargers open training camp out there earlier from
ten until noon for the training camp practice. A lot
of news surrounding that, obviously the retirement of Mike Williams,
Jim Harbaugh and his thirty minute presser about meeting Pope
Francis and seven presidents and twenty two foul balls and
all the stuff you've come to love and appreciate from

(22:30):
Coach Harbaugh, but also a lot happening as you fool,
as you know full well, George, as George Reister is
in for Petros in the world of college football, particularly
just kind of what's become a real ugly part of
the business side of college football, and no one better
to talk about it than USA Today's Dan Wolken. He
joins us now on the Petros and Money Show at

(22:52):
George Fillin in for P and Dan. I know you've
kind of been posting about it quite a bit, but
it seems like, well, you're frustrated. A lot of people
are frustrated, and people like me, well, we're just stupid
and confused about why this thing seemingly was figured out
and now it's not figured out anymore. With these collectives, well, you.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
Can get pretty deep in the weeds on all this stuff,
and there's a lot of legal mumbo jumbo that you
have to kind of sort through that you know, frankly,
I'm not qualified to completely understand or you know, maybe
I have to read it fifty times to figure it out.
But the bottom line to it is they created this
settlement and the idea behind it was that it was

(23:32):
going to bring nil back into what a lot of
these schools considered to be quote real nil. You know,
Caitlin Clark being in the state farm commercial or you
know the local pizza shop. You know, given a few
hundred bucks or a few thousand bucks for guys to

(23:53):
post you know, ads on Instagram or stuff like that, right,
and to do that, they were going to have to
rein in these collectives, these booster collectives. Well, now we're
seventeen days into the settlement and there's already a dispute
over whether or not the College Sports Commission, which is

(24:15):
the group that has been given the responsibility to enforce
all these rules, whether they can deny nil deals from
collectives or not. And I'm sitting here saying, you've been
negotiating this settlement for three years and you've agreed to
half a billion dollars or I'm sorry, two point eight

(24:36):
billion dollars in damages half a billion just to the
Jeffrey Kessler Law firm over the next ten years, and
you didn't have a very explicit agreement on the actual
key point in the entire settlement. I don't understand that
at all.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, And they it seems like that they have tried
to punt everything on Brian Seeley, the new CEO of
the College Sports Commission's desk, because he was the head
of enforcement for MLB for so long. Is he going
to be able to actually have any power? Because if
he doesn't have any power, then this whole thing was

(25:16):
a waste of time.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
Well, I don't really fault Brian Seely. I mean he
was hired by the Power Conferences. The Power Conferences set
up this Collegiate Sports Commission, and they are the ones
who have given it the responsibility of a thumbs up
or a thumbs down on all of these different NIL
deals and to ensure that schools are not using collectives

(25:44):
to go around the cap that was created by the settlement.
That's the entire job. That's what these schools and the
Power Conferences say they want to do. But you know,
you look at it and it's like, if you didn't
lock down the idea that you actually can deny these
collectives' ability to pay college athletes. Yeah, like, what was

(26:07):
all this for? What have you been doing over the
last three years, and why would you agree to the
settlement in the first place.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
You can follow them on Twitter at Dan Wolkin wl
k e N. That's wol k N. A lot happening
around college football in the offseason, and most of it
is financial. I like when people tell me how to think, Dan,
I don't want to think for myself. Am I to
think that NIL was good for parody? In college football

(26:36):
or bad for parody and college football. I'm trying to
figure out where we want this to go moving forward,
so we can see more of these competitive games that
we have and these upsets against the Alabamas and the
Michigans and the Ohio States of the world.

Speaker 6 (26:52):
Yeah, well, there's no doubt in my mind that NIL
and also the transfer portal and the significant movement of
players from year to year created a certain level of parody.
I don't think you see it all the way down
in college sports, but you know, at the top level,
you know, maybe the great teams weren't quite as great,

(27:13):
and certainly, you know, kind of that middle ten to
twenty range of team had the ability to get a
lot better quickly by getting a player in the transfer portal.
So in some ways that was good. But I also
understand like serious issues and frustrations with the idea that
players can move from school to school every single year,

(27:37):
you know, leverage schools against each other by you know,
sort of renegotiating their contracts every year. It's it's hard.
You can't really effectively manage a sport that way. And
that's why in you know, the NFL and the NBA
and Major League Baseball. You have collective bargaining agreements, which
is what college sports should have done many many years ago.

(28:01):
Is work toward a system where the NCAA or the
Power Conference schools are negotiating with an entity that represents
the players, that sets the rules of the road. And
the reason you want that is because it protects you
from lawsuits, loopholes, legal challenges. You've made the agreement, both

(28:22):
sides have had their say, they've been to the negotiating table,
and they both agree on what the rules are. And
that's just a much healthier way to operate a professional sport,
which is what this is now. And you know, yeah
it's college sports, but it's not amateur anymore. It's professional
and not treating the business of it in a professional

(28:46):
way is what leads to all of these issues. And
you know, if parody is the goal, and I think
paroity is a worthy goal in some ways, you can
create that through a collective bargaining agreement. Trying to do
it on this sort of ad hoc basis, you know, ultimately,
I think stresses the system in ways that have some

(29:06):
bad effects as.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well, Amen, Dan. But the other issue that is looming
around college football is the college football Playoff? And what's
gonna happen with that? The Big Ten in the SEC.
I gotta laugh, yes, because they are trying to negotiate
out in the media who ends up folding Dan. Will

(29:27):
it be Tony Pettiti up at the Big Ten or
will it be Greg Sanki in the SEC.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
Yeah, Well, for people who aren't quite clued in what's
going on, just briefly, the Big Ten wants a sixteen
team playoff where the SEC and the Big Ten get
four automatic bids to the playoffs each and then the
Big Twelve the a SEC get two, and then you
have one for your mid major teams and then you
have the rest are sort of at large selections. The

(29:53):
SEC and the Big Twelve have stated a preference for
five automatic bids for conference champ the high rank conference champions,
and then eleven at large slots, and it's sort of
the standoff, and the Big Ten, which hasn't which plays
nine conference games, says they don't want to agree to
the SEC's plan unless the SEC agrees to go from
eight conference games to nine conference games. So that's sort

(30:16):
of the state of play. I don't know who's gonna blink.
But to me, the funniest part about it is that
if they can't agree, then what will happen is just
a continuation of the twelve team playoff we had this
past year. And to that I say, hell, yeah, just
keep the twelve team playoff. I don't want sixteen. I
don't want fourteen. I really don't know anybody who wants

(30:37):
fourteen or sixteen. Twelve It should not. Honestly, if I
were reserve college sports, I would have stuck at eight.
Eight to me is the sweet spot. Like, there's nobody
who is an actual contender for a national championship in
college football that is ranked below number eight. It's just
not possible. Twelve it's fine. I live with it, But

(31:00):
sixteen to me is ridiculous. I don't think there's actually
any real public demand for it. And see the best
outcome for this entire process would be that they can't
agree and they just stick at twelve.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Uh, Dan, can you talk to me about what is
my biggest pain point with college football is the schedules,
Because you have Indiana taken Virginia off the schedule to
put Kennessas State on. Saw get after it now, Yeah, exactly.
In basketball, Ohio State won a national championship, would have
with a poor non conference schedule Michigan did the year before.

(31:36):
There are only three SEC teams last year and this
year that play ten Power five games. As a fan, Dan,
I'm like, when will this stop? When will the college
football playoffs say we have to schedule ten Power five games.
I don't care how you do it, just get to ten.

Speaker 6 (31:54):
Yeah, I mean that certainly would be fine. But the
sport of college football is all going to have unequal schedules.
It's just a fact. And even within these conferences, there
are going to be unequal schedules because the conferences have
gotten so big. Just look at last year in the
SEC and try to compare the schedule Georgia played, for instance,

(32:15):
with the scheduled Texas played two completely different levels of scheduling. Now, look,
I know Texas, you know, uh, you know, they had
you know, a good non conference game or whatever, and
that's all fine, But you're never going to have parody
on scheduling. It's it's just it's just not possible. And
that's why you need a committee to you know, be

(32:39):
the human input here independently saying yeah, we understand that
this team played harder schedule than that team, but we're
going to judge the season through that lens and try
to give some weight to the disparities scheduling. Are they
always going to get it right or get it perfect? No,
but there's no other way to do it. There's no
other way to do it unless you go to sort

(33:00):
of an NFL model with you know, thirty something teams
and divisions, and that's how you get in to the playoffs. Like,
as long as you have conferences all across the country
playing different, totally different levels of schedules, then you're gonna
have this as a sticking point. And I don't know

(33:21):
any other way to solve it. Even I think the
ten you know, the ten minimum is not going to
solve it because a lot of schools are gonna go
schedule Wake Forest and Bandy, you know, rather than you know,
try to challenge themselves by playing you know, I don't
know Michigan State or you know, Missouri or whoever. Like,
it's just it's just hard to do. And also you

(33:43):
don't know years in advance how good teams are gonna be.
Right when when a lot of these games get scheduled,
so there's just big obstacles to it. And I still
think you're gonna need a human element to look through
that data and interpret who belongs in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Do you have dan like an opinion on on basically
what is this this lynch pin of whether or not
they can find an agreement, because I think back to
last year in Indiana was the flashpoint, right, why is
Indiana in there? And that then I look at all
those SEC teams that got put into bulls and into
the playoff and none of them showed out. So it's
I don't know which way.

Speaker 6 (34:18):
You know.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
You can complain about all of it and be upset
about all of it, and the SEC is always going
to say our conference is so good and that's why
we have these losses, and then these teams go out
there and they don't win the game, or you played
a light schedule that's why you got the twelve wins,
and you go out and either you lose or you
play like, I don't know, do you have an idea
of what is the right way to try to pick

(34:40):
those twelve teams?

Speaker 6 (34:42):
Well, I mean to me, this should be a lot
easier with the twelve team playoffs. Okay, you're making a
decision between Indiana and you know, a really mediocre Alabama team, right, right,
that's a very low stakes decision because me one of
them have a chance in hell of winning a national championship, right, Like,

(35:04):
I mean, yes, I understand that it matters to the
people involved, and there's money on the line about who
gets picked. I understand all that, right, But we're not
splitting an atom here, Like, you make a decision. Some
years it's gonna go against you, some years it's gonna.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Go for you.

Speaker 6 (35:19):
Last year went against the SEC because everybody watched the
SEC and said, you know, these teams aren't really all
that great, Like they're good, they're fine, but this is
the SEC of yesteryear. Like this just happens to be
a pretty mediocre Alabama team and you know, they go
to Oklahoma and they get beat really bad, and so like,

(35:40):
let's put Indiana in. Like, I don't really see the
problem with that take, except for the fact that the
SEC freaked out about it, And now like there's this
whole debate in dispute.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Before we let you go.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
I see, you're into the open or as we like
to call it here, the British Open, not out of spite,
it's just what we grew up seeing it called. And
I guess we had a golf person on yesterday and
Dave Dusk who said that they call the Masters the
US Masters, so since they do that, we can do
the British Open thing. Uh, do you have someone if
you had a chance to pick anyone you want to

(36:11):
walk out of there with the claric jug Who do
you want to see when this thing?

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (36:14):
Yeah, and by the way, like we have to clarify
it because you wouldn't want to confuse our masters with
like the Scandinavian.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Masters exactly right, or I think they called.

Speaker 6 (36:24):
The Volvo Masters now or something like that. But I'm sorry,
I forgot your question.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Do you want to you get to pick the British
Open champ? Do you want Lefty to have his last?
What do you want?

Speaker 6 (36:35):
Well? And I don't know exactly how he finished today,
I need to look it up, but I would like
to see Justin rose win it. I thought he was
just incredibly classy, and he's always been classy his whole career.
But the way he handled, you know, losing the Masters
in the playoffs Tory, I mean he's just been you know,
he's been around so long and he's been such a

(36:57):
good player. He won a gold medal at the Olympics,
he's won a US Open. Like, I think it would
be really cool for him to sort of cap his
career here at age what is he forty four or
something like that, with with a a major in his uh,
you know, in his home home country and he's minus two,

(37:17):
so he's you know, he's right in the mix. Like
I think, I'm want to be rooting for Justin Rose.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Great stuff, man, We really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Dan.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Follow him on Twitter at Dan Wilkin w O l
k E N w O l k E N. Obviously
worth keeping an eye on every minute, every day as
the college football landscape changes seemingly by the hour.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Thanks Dan, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
When we return, You're dead and a live guy. Birthday
of the Day, and then at seven o'clock off day,
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P'll be back tomorrow. But heck of a four hour day,
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a lot of football conversation was the centerpiece of today,
but also big thank you Jose Mota talking some Dodger
baseball and Lorenzo O'Neil, one of the all time greats
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All right, George, here we go, last segment, Your dead
guy birthday of the day. It's not it's not an annual,
but i'd say probably once now that we're in our
nineteenth year doing this show, this is probably our third
or fourth time that we're doing Orville Clarence Reddenbacker.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Hello, I'm Orble Reddenbaker. Do my friends know what tops
my garmet? Poppincorn?

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Top your pop?

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Good?

Speaker 1 (39:10):
No way, it's the last.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
It's a vest that I can still top it with
crunchy ranola, buttery, caramel, are toasted sesame. They are my
new garmet.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Popcorn snacks, granola, crunch, coil crunch, sesame crunch, Red Bucker, you've.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Topped yourself.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Weird beatrice?

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, we well, Reddenbacker. Uh, my wife is a popcorn enthusiast,
me too, Yeah, are you?

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yes, popcorn is great. Yes, I am so into popcorn.
I refuse to eat microwave popcorn. Right, make it right
right on the maker or you make it on the stove. Yes,
oil in a pan. Yep. Look at you, oh school,
look at you? And do you know what the best
thing to put on top of it is? It is belted? Well?

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Well, well, that of course is that's a that's a
that's just a but.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Then after that, truffle sea salt.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Salt?

Speaker 1 (40:10):
What's what's a truffle sea salt costure? For a h
I buy it in a big bag of it from
like the San Francisco Air truffle I think expensive. Yeah,
oh oh oh, it's it's not expensive like that. It's
just pricier than than regular salt. Has got little, you know,
dehydrated truffle granules in it. And I'm the guy that

(40:31):
when I go to the movie theater, I bring my
truffle salt in my bag with me to put on
the popcorn. Yeah right, look at that. So this works
out great.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
See white trash, you know what we put on popcorn,
like a ranch salt or something like that. Something above that.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I'm not above that, not above that.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
The wife, though she's got the orvile Reddenbacker air popper,
she's got the we like the orvile Reddenbocker popcorn. That's
good now it's in that little red container. But she
also does the the Amish. The Amish make popcorn. Apparently
there's like a there's a outside in western Pennsylvania. They're
famous for their popping corn. So she gets that.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Shipped to her. See now right now, I gotta go
that one.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
This is your takeout order, you know, you gotta get
the now, I gotta.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Order it and see it because because as soon as
you try something and you figure out that it's better,
Like I love grits, right okay, and then once I
found these stone ground grits from this one particular company
and they take an hour to make, but it is
worth okay.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
See that's like the similar to the steel cut oatmeal. Yeah,
when you get the old school McCanns steel cut, it
takes about thirty minutes. But then you're like, yeah, this
is this that's why it's good. It test thirty minutes.
The grits are good because it takes an hour.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, it's yes.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
So you're oral Reddenbaker not just a pitch man, but
a popcorn man, and we're all better for it. The Brazil,
Indiana native father farmer. So he grew up on the farm.
He took advantage of the corn crop, sold popcorn from
the back of his car make money. While he was
in high school, smart kid top five in his class,
went to Purdue. You know about Purdue physical football team
at Purdue University and now you play on the defensive

(42:08):
side of the football and you're gonna be bringing that
hammer that Purdue Pete likes to swing.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, yeah, I think things have changed, yes, correct, you
know things have changed, Yeah, Robert. But they do have
a new head coach. They do, yes, yes, yes, they
do have a new head coach. So that means that
there's hope.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
My contention is, I do believe Purdue Pete is in
the conversation, it's the greatest mascot in all of college sports. Oh,
he definitely is. He wields a weapon that's a legitimate
sledgehammer that he carries around so he can bash somebody's
head in during a football game, and vacant gaze of
a serial killer. That's just that Purdue face.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
He definitely does him. Yes, he's one of them. So
is Brutus, the Buckeye the Yeah, the Oregon Duck is one.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
You know, I call Big Ten basketball every year. I
do the tournament every year. Yeah, and I was, uh,
I appreciate that perdu puts a larger individual in Depete.
Pete's a big dude. Yeah, so it's not He's not
a sting.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
I've never seen him in person. Brutus.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
I felt the same way. Yeh, little little maybe a
gymnast or something like that. Yeah, I was like little
like I was like, eh, you know, peace cleaning house
on all these guys.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
But but yes, so here we go. Where was I?

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Brazil, Indiana?

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I you the Hoosier Uh no mascot just uh a
dude in those candy stripe pants, which I can't decide
if I like those or not.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah, I think I'm with you in past all right,
So Purdue All American Marching band.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
He played the tuba.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
He was in the agricultural fraternity Alpha Gamma Row and
then and the student paper. He was the editor of
the Purdue Exponent. So you're like, okay, and then you
realize guy ran track as well at Purdue. So a
true renaissance man. Uh graduated at the top of his class.
He ends up working for the Vigo County Farm Bureau
Extension as an agent. He then works for Princeton Farms.

(43:57):
He sells fertilizer, but he wanted tom and he found
his opportunity when the corn seed plant in Boongrove, Indiana,
went up for sale. He bought it and instead of
just keeping on, keeping on. George Orville said, I'm going
to create the greatest strand of popcorn known to man.
And he said he probably went through two to three
thousand hybrid strains before he settled on the one that

(44:20):
we still eat today. What is considered kind of the
standard in popping corn, the Orville Reddenbacher. It was called
the red Bow, and a lot of people just used
the red Bow.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
I think a lot of people can probably relate to that,
where like they went through two or three thousand strands
of hybrids.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Exactly right, Get get the weak stuff out of here.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Right over there, there's some people smoking weed. Exactly right.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
He shopped at ARONI realized he had something. Before they
went to market, they hired an advertising agency and they
advised them to change the name of their company and
just us Orvil Redenbrocker's name and use him as the
pitch man. They're like, you're right, you're wearing the bow tie,
you got the glasses, you got the wild name. So
they went with it. They launched their popping Corn in
nineteen seventy. Within two years, it was already a national sensation.

(45:07):
One third of the popcorn market was theirs and Rettenbacher
was like, I'm out. I'm just gonna cash out, cashed
out after six years, made his millions, and then said
I'll be your pitch man. I'll do the commercials. And
he moved to Coronado Island. I mean he just hung
out in San Diego. Hope he kept some stock, right, well,
it seemed like he lived in Coronado the whole time,
so he was able to do that. And I'm guessing

(45:28):
he got paid a little bit of money on the
actor front for pitching the popcorn, but seemed like a
pretty happy guy. Married two daughters, twelve grandkids, ten grandkids,
lived to be eighty eight popcorns of healthy food. He's
got a statue in Valparaiso, Indiana, where they hold the
nation's annual popcorn festival. So maybe something to look forward
to in your future, A nice visit to Valparaiso, Indiana.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Pass pass fly, I'll fly right over Valdez, Yes you will.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
You will unless right over it on your waydover there?

Speaker 1 (45:57):
So do I drive past that when I'm when I'm
going to like, for instance, I've did this year. I've
been to sham Champagne already.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Do I not know Valpo, not pass Champagne.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Or from Indianapolis down to if you were to drive
from Chicago to Indy, yes you could, so I passed it.
When you could hit a little bit of Alcolia.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
You kind of you get on the sixty five there
to go south where you would drive past Purdue on
your way to Eyeu. You would just keep going straight
there on Route thirty and that would take you out
to Valpo maybe twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Oh so you can't just accidentally stumble upon Valpo.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Now you you have to be going, which is wild
that you know Scott Drew made that run at at
Valparaiso back in the day in the NCAA tournament, real off,
kind of off the beaten path.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
So there you go. You're dead guy. You have the
A live guy, be alive guy of the day is
David Michael Hasselhoff. Every time somebody brings up David Hasselhoff,
I learned something new about David Hasswoff. So he was
born in Baltimore, grew up living in Atlanta, a place
that I played, Jacksonville, Lagrange, Illinois, and then he went

(47:05):
to Oakland University. Now I didn't I had never I
had no idea till Oakland University was until tournament run
double a tournament with a losing record, and they won
the conference. Exactly, go to the go to the tournament.
So I'd never no idea where it was. Yeah and
so h. He studied theater and cow arts. So then

(47:28):
he moved out to Hollywood landed a role. So here's
the thing I did not know is that he was
on The Young and the Wrestless. So I must have
probably Oh wait, no, I didn't because I was born
in nineteen eighty one. So he was playing doctor Snapper
for seven years from nineteen seventy five to nineteen eighty one,
doctor Snapper. Wonder what he specialized in exactly? So I

(47:48):
because I used to watch Young and the Wrestless with
my grandmother. Religious sec right, Yes.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
You were young in the rest My grandma was as
the world turns. Oh yeah, that's there you go. That's
funny though, if Grahmma raises you, it turns out at
least mine. You know, mine raised me. My mom was
working overnights and my dad was never around, so I
was watching the soaps with grandma and that's the bonding.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
That's what she does. Yes, And I loved it, and
then why and are But the show that I first
remembered him from was night Rider with you know him
and the kids there it is Give it to me
eighty two to eighty six. It was. He was only
on for that long. How do I remember this that vividly?

Speaker 2 (48:23):
That transam dude. Everybody wanted it.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
I certainly wanted one, and one actually might get one
of him right now, that might be cool. And the
auto trader exactly. Then he got the job as La
County lifeguard Mitch Buchanan on the Baywatch series, which most
people remember him from. The most they remember him. They
remember Pamela Anderson vividly.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
They don't remember the flat chested lady with the with
the short hair.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
I don't. I don't even what I mean. I remember too,
Why that's this poor person?

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Why if there's like all of these bucksome blonde ladies
and then you put this athletic build, flat chested, short lady.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
It's not fair. There are three things I remember from
they watch, and two of them really aren't I mean,
and one of them really not even related. I remember
David Hashoff, I remember Pamela Ama Anderson and the rock
That's it. Exactly.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Our friend Don McClain was on an episode of bay Watch. Yes,
he did an episode as a basketball player.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
He was.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
That show got watched by over a billion people across
one hundred and forty countries. It was huge, and he
made more than one hundred million dollars. But that's not
even the most interesting thing about David Hasselhoff. Because when
I learned so, the show was long off and all
of this stuff, and I remember seeing him sing somewhere
and they were like, yo, he's a big, huge in Germany. Yeah, yeah,

(49:44):
huge superstar singer. I was like, Man, get the hell
out of here. Oh yeah. And turns out this man
has released fifteen studio albums that lets you know that
we are living in our own bubble, because this man
is a simulation, because fifteen studio albums in Europe. Looking

(50:05):
for Freedom reached number one in Germany and Switzerland, and
the man has earned gold and platinum awards. Man, So
happy seventy third birthday. Third to the man that they.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Call the haff Here it.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
Is man.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Freedom. Yeah, this is never gonna work.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
There no little Neil Diamond kind of eye to it.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
He has like it's like a karaoke deal diamond.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
He uh, yeah, I don't know what it is about
Germany Man, but sometimes it's been a while since I've
been there, but you get there. I don't know if
you've ever been.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Yeah, yeah, I've been there.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
It kind of feels like you're in a time wark,
especially in Berlin, like you've gone back thirty years.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
It's kind of like when you go over to Europe
and even Asias, they are very like they love the
American music, they love the dress, they love a lot
of those those things. And I believe that David Hasselhoff
was so popular on bay Watch and they watched it
in so many countries that you know, you know, it's

(51:13):
like j Low going from being a dancer to being
a musician being you know, it's a superstar. Yeah, yeah,
in every fascinating and I think that that's what David
Houseloff did.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, I did a semester abroad and bay Watch was
peak bay Watch when I lived in Italy, and it's
all anyone wanted to talk to us about when they
found out we were American.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Did they watch And.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
We're like, yeah, they watch the Watch.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
I don't watch.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
It's on it like four in the afternoon, there we are,
but exactly well. Jorge was great. Certainly appreciate you being in.
You made four hours go by in what seemed like
about four minutes. We'll be back tomorrow, Peel, be back
from the Mountain West meetings out there in Vegas, and
we will have Dodger baseball from the Galpin Motors Broadcast
Booth

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Los