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Final Hour Fun Fact. Quick Hits. The Great Sonny Vaccaro on basketball, his retlationship with Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant and LeBron James and what is the best basketball sneaker ever made. Dead and Alive Guy Birthday of the Day
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Did you know.
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Anthony, New Mexico is the leap Year Capital of America
slash the world. Anytime there is a Feb twenty nine,
which there is not this year, they throw a party.
So every four years it is hosted by a pair
of Leap as they like to call themselves Leaplans, Marian
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Brown and Bertie Lewis, and they say it regularly draws
between five and ten thousand people for the Leap Year celebration. Wow,
that sounds like a weird party to roll to right.
My mother in law is a leap lean. Well, I
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wonder if I should take her one time? Get over there,
celebrate with Marylyn, find out what happened to Gene Hackman
while you're out While are you're out there? Seems like
something terrible quick hits everybody? Ms quickeits, I'll make.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
It quick, y'all.
Speaker 7 (03:41):
Oh yeah, Jimmy Sexton pulled our chains again.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And Matt Stafford is returning to the Rams.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
He's made a fool of me, all of us.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
The two sides met this morning and the team's announced
that he's back after restructuring his deal. Terms of the
deal were not disclosed.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Stafford has reportedly talked with the Raiders the Giants, but
then decided to come back to the Rams. Whether he
met the Raiders in.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
A chance meeting or in an appointed meeting in Montana
is still up.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
For grabs, And at least he didn't suffer that fate
and may have done like six stories on it, including
my eating up the crow a little bit earlier today,
but at least there was a verbal altercation littered with
f bombs and a call place to NFL security for
fear of assault. That we have to thank for his
dalliance with the Raiders and Tom Brady at a Montana
(04:32):
ski chalet.
Speaker 7 (04:33):
The Giants are reportedly now looking at Aaron Rodgers. It's
a possible solution for their quarterback problem. Currently, Tommy DeVito,
the Italian gentleman, is the only cuts under the contract
for the Giants. The Raiders are expected to investigate veteran
quarterback options and include Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, and Sam Darnold.
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And at the NFL combine, Travis Hunter got some wind in.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
His jaws, mister limited, that's Russell Wilson, Travis Hunter Limited.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
Hunter sees himself as even more than that. He talked
to the media today and he was asked him it's
harder to play both ways on the football field or
b sho Hal Tawny and Hunter said something stupid.
Speaker 8 (05:14):
Probably me what I do a football because it's a
lot on your body, you know. Tonny he's a great player.
But you gotta do a lot of in football.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It's regularly shided you got to do a lot of
in football. Yeah, you gotta do a lot in football.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Hitting a baseball is incredibly easy, especially off major league pitching.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
And oh and then being the major league pitcher.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yes, that has to strike out major league hitters. That's
also very easy.
Speaker 8 (05:40):
To probably me what I do a football because it's
a a lot on your body. You know, Tonny, he's
a great player, but you gotta do a lot of
in football.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
His name is not Tony. I like Tony. Tony. That's
a hell of a job.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Out He opened a great DEALI down in the street.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
He really did, Tony.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Listen, you play on the perimeter. I mean you're very good,
but geez, shut up.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Was he talking about Jack Tunny.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
It might have been because that's what Tony did to
the macho man.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Player.
Speaker 8 (06:10):
But you gotta do a lot of football.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You do have to do a lot of that. We
can all we can all agree on that part. Uh.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
The Dodgers taking on the Seraphs and camel back tonight
just today on the mound, that game just underway. We're
gonna carry the one tomorrow. We got Clippers Lakers tonight,
when the Dodgers take on the Giants.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
What do you mean the Dodger games at night? What
do you mean?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Sorry, Fred, you got three hours?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
What?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
No? Kevin? Kevin?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I need you get wiki.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Double up.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I saw the Dodgers Angels were playing and knew we'd
broadcast it.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
The MLB is in talks with Amazon Prime, Netflix, and
NBC about filling the ESPN Baseball TV pack gap. Also
being discussed as Fox Sports getting to the air the
Home Run Derby to go along with its All Star
game coverage, and they can't do worse than the ESPN.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
So I think we could do a good job on
the Home Run Derby.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
You and me?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, I think that would be of an event Taylor
made for us, because really it's completely uninteresting, and you
need folks to be able to fill and find distractions
around the stadium to share with the people on the
way out.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I'd have to hang up my headset and never work again.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Exactly right.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
The Lakers are winners of four in a row. They
host the Clippers tonight. It's going to be a hot one.
We've been talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It Genie w win it.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Yes, sure, I mean they won everything else. Jeanie with
a big Weenie, talked to some media before the Lakers
game last night to do a little bit of a
victory lap. She was asked about the Luca trade and
about JJ Reddick and how he was doing as a
first year head coach. He said, I was worried about
hiring a rookie coach under the team is so important
to this community, and to bring in a rookie coach
and has no experience before that was big lead. But
(08:00):
I knew that Reddick and Polinka would work well together
because they're both so doucheet.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Nope' both so attractive.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
There it is, and I love watching the progress that
they're making because they're both so attractive. Here's JJ after
the game last night talking about his relationship with Jeanie
and her big weenie, and in particular how smooth the
ad Luca trade was handled.
Speaker 9 (08:21):
She's been awesome. And the biggest thing is rob myself, Genie.
You know, in the interview process and in the very
early days this past summer, it was all about creating
alignment and you know, cohesiveness between those three, those two
people who We've done that, thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
When tarn Lu was not able to exit the Clippers
and they realized that that avenue would not take them
across the finish line, our conversations were incredible and I
really liked the direction they were going in.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
It's good.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
That's good translation. That's just like it's Oh my god,
it's a night game.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Can soup?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I can't wait to listen to what? Oh God, first
pitch at what?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
That's only five minutes? Can they cover?
Speaker 7 (09:15):
LeVar Ball had his foot amputated recently, sadly, and it's
made his first appearance since he popped on TikTok.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
For everyone asking how I'm feeling? I may not have
my foot anymore? But you know what I got now
that VERYFICX shutting.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Did y'all forget Lava?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
If I wanted to grow.
Speaker 10 (09:32):
It back, that's fantastic. He's got some special TikTok.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
Verification and he was flossing and he said he's gonna
grow back his foot like a lizard.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
For everyone asking how I'm feeling. I may not have
my foot anymore? But you know what I got now
that VERYFICX shutting, did y'all forget I'm lava if I
want to.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Grow it back? Am I that Conor wooa.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Eddie and another post even hinted the jell I might
have a new song coming out just on Prey's account.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I might swear like we got another new song. Two
guns on my hip because it feels like Lo and Noda?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Two guns on my hippick because it feels like Lawyer
in orda.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Two guns on my hip because it feels like Lo
and Noda.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Well, I would hope you have tell me it's like
law in Order?
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Two guns on my hip because it feels like and Noda.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Two guns on my hip because what you think the
twenty million or whatever that they gave him is, is
uh just.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
For more than one one song?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Two guns on my hip? Pick because I feel like law.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Or turns on my hip because it feels like Lo
and Noda.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
We just my foot.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
But I have a place in this world? Am I
that Conor Woo?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Whoa?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
We all have a place.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Let me get the two guns on my hip again?
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Two guns on my hip?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
There's like two guns on my hep beck does that
fiz like Law and Order?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Did y'all forget I'm lava? If I wanted to grow
it back. Amer in corn Woo.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Ucla is twenty and eight.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Overall eleven and six and the Big ten they are
at perdue now about to kip off.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Two guns on my hip. Beck goes off air law
and orders.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Like more than a couple of guns to take down
at steam Train and uh. Bill.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Belichick and North Carolina are reportedly considering a behind the
scenes look at the team as the focus of HBO's
off season Hard Knock Show. Belichick, who never took part
in the NFL one and despised it because of the
new girlfriend, is going to let her floss out on
freaking HBO.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Hey baby, you do me a favorite. You take that
jacket off and just kind of let it hang there
at your waist, keep the sleeves on, let it hanging
like the kids do while I walk three steps in
front of you at a brisk pace and a winter
jacket that zipped up to my chin.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Let it hang on your hips like two on your
hips because it feels like Law and orcres.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Like I'll grow back my foot. That's all I have to.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Get on Levaul, if I wanted to grow it back,
I don't think you can.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
And and wouldn't you want to Uh, okay, We'll be
back with Sonny Vacaro, the centerpiece of the show today
like on a big, beautiful dining table. Sonny Vacaro with
his memoir joining Matt and I not the Cannons, Matt
and Ice Honey.
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Matt joining us right now.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
A legendary figure around the game of basketball, Michael Jordan,
Kobe Bryant, Lebron James. He's been integral at all of
their stories, been a voice on this station going back
decades with the Loose Cannons, appointment based listening with Joe
McDonald and with us Petros and Money. We've only been
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on about twenty years. This new book is out, and
which is awesome that he's got a great memoir out
Legends and Souls, the memoir of an america An original,
and he certainly is that it's available on Amazon and
Barnes and Noble or any bookstore. One of the all
time greats and major players in the development of modern basketball,
(14:13):
Sonny Vacara, on your Southern California Toyota Dealer Celebrity Hotline,
joining us on a seventy LA Sports once again.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Sonny, welcome, How are you?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
I'm all pepped up now after an introduction like that,
I hope I can equal what you're going to ask,
and I'm trying. I'm very happy and I enjoyed a
good life and I'm still enjoying it.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
It's wonderful to hear your voice, and it's great that
you are endeavoring with the with the memoir, looking back
through the years or down the years, as they say,
how surprised are you that basketball revenue and shoe contracts
have have reached the level that they have, and we're
(14:57):
talking about billions of dollars and not hundreds of thousands.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Well, surprise is not the correct what impossible dream improbable?
You know that me being in you know, able to
live this sort of life and be involved with those
things you you said so well, so it's almost impossible
now that it has happened. And watching the progression of that.
I've been around for a long time, guys, as you know, Uh,
(15:23):
it's it's uh, it's it's very awarding. And I'll say
this at the top of the show. The best thing
I ever did of some of the things I was
involved in in my life was Yobanan case and and
and putting the game and the and the way that
you know, the athletes can benefit by as much as
the other people. So that's that's just real quick with you.
(15:45):
I couldn't be happy with my.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Life, Sonny. You write a memoir and and I would
assume there's there's a point or a story. Is there
something that you hope everybody takes away that that resonates
with them. Is there is there something a thread that
you carry through the memoir that you know, maybe inspired
you to write it and to publish it and to
put it out there.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
That's a great thank you. I'll tell you what, if
you follow my journey from the first words that you know,
when I was born in Pennsylvania in nineteen thirty nine
to where we are today, my journey is probably the
most improbable, you know, journey of a lot of people
that we all know, because there was nothing in my
(16:25):
future from my beginnings where growing up, the time of
the world that was Second World War, you know, immigrant parents,
the whole story, you know, the American story. Everybody has
part of where I lived it and I lived a
long time. But I was putting into a situation by
whatever happened to my life, by being involved with good
people and ideas, and that's how you know my life
(16:48):
will en up to my ideas. But to sit there
today and watch what's happened is, you know, the most
gratifying thing for me on the on the athlete part,
but also there were down parts of this improbable journey
and the probable journey that I've had, and that goes
with So to answer your question, if you believe, I
(17:08):
would say to your audience today, if you believe in yourself,
then you start. There are people you grew up with
and aren't your friends anymore. There are a business partners
you may have, or places of employment that you may
be are in part of that you don't you know
you don't associate with, or there are partners I'm bad.
But if believe in yourself, you don't have to do
(17:31):
what I did or what the guys are doing on
the radio today. Just do something the best of your
ability in believing yourself. I think I think my answer
to that question now that i'm you know, pretty much
at the end of my journey here is that was
one thing I always believed in was what I could do.
And mostly things that you'll lead in the book are
(17:54):
things that I didn't probably think of until just minutes
or days before I did them. There was something that,
you know that just happened. I was engaged in something.
But also, even though this is a shining you know,
it's a good way to end up professional life, this book.
But I'll tell you what, there was many tears along
(18:15):
the way, Mandy said, relationship and many sad stories. But
I did what I had to do, and God gave
me the strength to back into my family.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
I wrote this book, The Great Sonny Vacaro joining us
right now on the Petrosen Money Show, telling us it
can't all be wedding cake, even if you have a
legendary story, and it certainly is that. Speaking of having
self belief, you know, we talk about the greats and
the people that you were connected to, and it's constantly
(18:48):
the argument of greatest of all time and who's the goat,
and who's the best basketball player and who was the
most competitive guy in all this. It's hard to imagine, Sonny,
isn't the same from your active that anybody could be
more impactful ever than Michael Jordan was.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Well, no one will ever do what Michael did. Now
I'll go beyond basketball though, I'll go on what he
did in a world of you know, advertising, you know,
ability to sell yourself, you know, marketing. Michael did that.
I've never gotten involved with the generation of great players.
(19:27):
I mean, you know, you go from will you get
the same thing every time?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Right?
Speaker 5 (19:30):
We all have our generations, So I stay away in
that particularly. So there's no question that no one will
ever be able to duplicate what Michael did. Duplicate I mean, yes,
he didn't win more championships. Obviously the Balston Celtics want
more championships. But what he did in the other world
is show what an individual can do with a corporation
(19:53):
or any other business like and end up owning the
whole thing. Join to death. But competitiveness, I've seen them
all and I'm the closest. I was the closest to
for seven or eight years. But there was no one closer,
you know, and more impressive. You know that I would.
But then Kobe Bryant. I knew that he was going
(20:14):
to be a competitor when he came to the ABCD
camp as a junior and he made Remember now no
one knew him then he daddy was in Europe and
all that I knew his father because he played my game.
Made a long story short, Kobe makes the All Star
team freshman or the juniors against the seniors, and he
goes over to me and we give blay of wards
(20:35):
like the All camp. So he made the team and
he was going to his boys to me as fifteen
or sixteen years old that day. I never forgot mister Carroll,
I want to thank you for inviting me to this
wonderful camp, And I said, but I want to apology,
he said, I want to apologize. I said, Kobe, why
to make the All Star teams?
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Whatever? You know?
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And he said, no, next year, I'm coming back and
I'm going to be the most valuable player, he said,
A kid that didn't know most of the people he
was playing against. We understand that now. And you know, Audison,
though Cobe played in high school in Philadelphia, he was
still with jar and you know, make a name for himself.
Although he is talented, that word, and.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
There's six years.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
I was able to stand with him because we lived
in the same We lived on that Tellisafe Drive. Pam
and I lived half way up that thing and in
Joe's home and Kobe's home was on the top of that hill.
So I why I knew Joe and Pam. At least
once a week, Kobe used to call me from the
airplane from coming back from a triple you know, looking
(21:37):
here and and I'll never forget this now share it
with the LA thing. One particular game he come, you know,
he was coming back and he was driving his driver
picked him up, you know, in the way home the
airport to home and then to point in and he
had he had a bad game. You're shooting and and
I said, all right, what's up, young fellow, what do
(21:57):
you do? And he said, now, I want to just
say this and you can bleep it up. And he said,
I said, why did why did you shoot all their shots?
He said, hell, nobody else wanted to sit the goddamn bit.
And that's what he told me. And that was him.
He didn't care. He was eighteen years old. He didn't
(22:18):
care that, you know. All he wanted to make him,
but he certainly wasn't afraid to shoot him.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
I was het.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, got that.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
In many other stories. So Kobe to me. And it's
not because God, bless his soul, he's not here. And
I've said that before and I'll say it to I
die because I'm not going to be involved. He all
these guys were talking about were competitive. They're not a
great athlete unless you're competitive. So I don't want to
mean anyway, but on a personal level, you know, from
(22:45):
that first thing when he was sixteen years old and
he told me he was good and he wanted to
have MVP the next year.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, I'll tell you, Sonny. It's it's so compelling and interesting.
The stories on the court with the players, and I'll
be honest, I find just the shoe market and the
explosion of the athletic shoe market that people start wearing around.
It's not sneakers, it's not loafers, but people start wearing
basketball shoes to go out to dinner as as you know,
(23:12):
dress shoes for all intents and purposes with you know,
thousand dollars outfits, and that's a big part of your legacy.
I'd love to know, because I don't correct me if
you think I'm wrong. I don't think anything has ever
touched that Jordan one. There is just something about that red,
white and black high top that seemed to change everything
in terms of a legitimate basketball shoe that should be
(23:36):
worn on a court now being worn as a fashion accessory.
Kind of walk us through what went into that first
Air Jordan, that red white and black Air Jordan, and
just kind of how you came up with the concept
and if you knew immediately the second you laid your
eyes on it that this was going to be a
game changer.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Well, I'm going to go right to Peter Moore because
I wanted that you have seen in air. There wasn't
as dramatage what they put in there all. But I
was there with Lob and Peter and he shared. Peter
Moore and Rob and I were the first time he
talked about when he had to change it, because we
all agreed and Jill Night included that it couldn't be
an ordinary issue. So now we're doing the extreme and
(24:16):
we're going to make it red, and we're going to
do it we want to really get fined by the NBA.
At that time, they returned with Pete Odin. We actually
did the five Dog dollar five. But to sit there
the first day and watch it and telling you guys
all these years later that I knew what it was,
I didn't. But I'll tell you what I did know.
I did know that this company, Nike you were going
(24:37):
to back it. I did know that Peter Moore totally
bleed in it. Now he wanted to Peter Moore that
he ended up being, you know, favourite for the for
the logo. He was just beginning also with Nike. This
was his first but he he did have that the
red was so blatantly offensive to what they were doing.
(24:57):
It had it had to be margin one of the
monumental things in marketing because I believe I don't know,
especially in nineteen eighty four, what other newe company would
even have thought of that, but Moore did. We went
against the grain and that was the first, the first one.
I mean, that's why so original. There was never anything
(25:18):
like it. The red was like, you know, po on you,
I'm doing this and it looks great.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
That's a wonderful answer, Suddy. You're a great story teller,
teller and your own right. Did you did you like
the movie that was around the last time we talked
to you, when Air came out? What did you What
did you think about the job?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
They did?
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Well, they did a great job. It was a movie,
a lot of it. They took luxury work making a movie.
They left got some you know, good parts. But I
can say this. I was on the set and I
was involved with this movie. Mister Googer asked me to
do one thing. Make sure everything that I said that
Matt could talk about. Matt and I spent a lot
(26:02):
of you know, we did a lot of zooms. First
time they ever called me, we were off an hour
and a half. I spent a whole day on the set.
You know, and when they did the I mean I
was there. I can say this. There was more some embellishments,
but I can tell this audience that speech that Matt
did and to missus Jordan's I say a lot of
(26:22):
things and most of those words were spoken for me,
the Matt and he they were to put in there
more dramatically. Obviously it was you know, I haven't had
many thrills. I mean, I can't make this the most
obvious one. But the movie was was not alive. I mean,
there were they so you took their you know, movie
(26:46):
freedom to those people. But I can basically say that
put me over the top. I mean because I think
until the movie it was it was a little rougher
ride for me because a lot of people were saying,
did I just do certain things with certain things I did?
And I spelled that out well in the book. But
(27:06):
I think the movie just shut up everybody because why
Michael told Ben I have no problem with sonning through
the movie. He just wanted someone to play Viola, his
mother and Viola. You know, Nike never did anything about
the movie, which lots of words. There weren't too many things.
I guess the pammatory that might have been stretched. So
(27:29):
that's what the movie did for me, gentlemen. The movie
move towards my book, my memoir.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And the book is Legends and Souls sol e es
I little word play there, the memoir of an American original.
Last thing for me, Sonny, do you ensure there's been
a lot of talk. I don't know if you saw
the comments Lebron made about, you know, the perils of
being the face of the league. That's just so much
negativity because of the comparisons to Jordan and how no
(27:56):
one could ever possibly live up to it, and it's
such a hard thing to have to contend with. Do
you enjoy the game? Do you like where the game
is now?
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Well? I enjoy the players. I mean, the game has
changed since I've everyone scores ten thousand points a game
in three pointers or you know whatever. I mean, it's
still getting, it's still competitive. I think the reason we
don't enjoy it is because these kids and our men
you know, are pretty goddamn good too. They're pretty good.
(28:27):
I just think basketball hadn't been able to stand up
with the people we have now. Instead of having individuals
on one team like where they had Magic or this
guy or that guy. It took a year to get
another guy to go. Another guy got this year. You're
playing in the NBA and the first in that first
two groups. You're pretty god game good. So I don't
follow with that much. I root for people. I like
(28:49):
to get all my news at the end of the
light at night and see how who wins and lose it.
But the competitiveness and what Lebron said, Lebron probably right
now today forty something whatever, the most interesting person playing
basketball because of his age and his ability, also his
knowledge of the game. I don't think any other athlete
(29:11):
in this modern area is still playing. Can we'll leave
out the guys that I'm playing anymore that are playing,
will ever ever be able to do for the game
you know in the future that Lebron is doing for
the game right now. Basically he is the faith of
the NBA. And if the Anchors after this unbelievable trade
(29:32):
that they fell into, I guess I don't know what
else to say, but they're pretty good now. I don't
think they could win. This guy. If this kid could,
he only gonna be a kid to be when's this one,
there's gonna be some heat on to get over things
because he is interesting. I hope I didn't avoid your question.
You know, I'm not that involved anymore. But I do
(29:53):
love the game but best and I love the.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
Players well, always involved in our hearts and minds. And
of of course the memoir is out Legends and Souls, Uh,
the memoir of an American original.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Get it now.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
It's on Amazon and all the places you can get
books any bookstore. Sonny Vaccaro, God bless you Sonny and
your family and and Pam, and thank you for having us.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
We will absolutely.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
The best hero in the world of basketball and shoes
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Right.
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That's that's about a month away from going barefooty pretty
much like like one of.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Those chicks in high school. A toe ring and an ankle,
little hemp brace on the ankle.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
We'll be back with your den and a live guy
birthday and the.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
Thanks for listening, and thank you for a great week
and great sports talk everybody.
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Speaker 2 (31:28):
As we round out the week, we remind you doubleheader tonight,
not really doubleheader concurrently, Clippers Lakers seven pm tip. Actually no, yeah,
it should be right after the UCLA game against Prey finishes.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Happening right now, right now.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
That's happening at am eleven to fifty. Clippers Lakers pregame
coming up in a few minutes, tip off at seven.
Most importantly, though, as your home of the World Series
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Speaker 7 (32:05):
Let there be no confusion. This has been scheduled. Talk
on the Petroston Money Show. Time check, time, check schedel.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
All right, Matt, you got the dead guy birthday?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I do uh freaking stubbing dude, captain stoubing happy. It
would have been ninety fourth to Gavin McLoud. He was
the that was his screen name. He was born Alan
George C. Yes in Mount Kissco, New York. Mother worked
for Readers Digest. If you remember that kid's it was
(32:40):
a staple at your grandparents' house.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
Oh, there's a basket with like two exactly exactly right,
he's been there, right next to the every grandparents house
had a basket with a bunch of Readers Digests and
a candy dish with a bunch of bros butterscotch, maybe
as original ice werthers.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Maybe a blanket on top of the basket.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Uh, I had the books, Yeah, to cover their legsactly
before they grabbed for the redears.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Before they grabbed for the twelve page summary of the
four hundred page novel. For whatever reason, that's how they
enjoyed to read back then. Father, an electrician in Native
American Chippewa, grew up in Pleasantville, New York. Studied fine
arts at Ithaca College, graduated, enlisted in the United States
Air Force. When he got out, moved to the Big town.
(33:26):
Worked at Radio City Music Hall. While chasing his dream,
said he thought being alan Ce was getting in the
way of his success. He said the last name Sea
was too confusing, so he went Gavin Mclaw and Bank
starts working television debut in nineteen fifty seven, The Walter
Winchell File. Blake Edwards saw it, loved him, cast him
(33:48):
in his NBC series Peter Gunn. But it was his
role on Operation Petticoat, Oh, Peter Gunn, Kerry Grant, Tody
Curtis that really got him notice. December sixty one, he
landed a guest role on The Dick Van Dyke Show.
That was his first time working with Mary Tyler Moore.
You heard the theme a little bit earlier there. He
did Perry Mason, Andy Griffiths Show, Hogan's Heroes, Ironside, My
(34:08):
Favorite Martian, the first season of Hawaii five. Oh, he
made the TV rounds Man but Murray Slaughter Mary Tyler
Moore show. That was the big breakout won him lasting fame.
He earned two Golden Globe nominations. And then you hear
it in the background. Stubie broadcast in nineteen countries worldwide.
(34:35):
Love Boat ran from seventy seven to eighty six. That
is a freaking eternity.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Three.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
That would be no Captain Stabbing without Captain Stubie. He
should be grateful.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
That got him a gig after the show as an
ambassador for Princess Cruise Lines. He then joined the Gods Squad,
was given his own show on the Trinity Broadcast Network
TVN to Evangeli Eyes and spread the good word. Was
inducted or enshrined or cemented into the Palm Springs Walk
(35:09):
of Fame.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Oh nice, that's a good one.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
That is a good one, right next to Fred Rogan
and Lisa vander poppin Sonny Bone.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
And some people think that maybe that's what he was
hanging on for, because you know, he gets his star
on the Walk of Fame and like two weeks later
he's dead. Steuby's like finally, finally I've made it, and
then he was gone at ninety. But yes, Alan C,
(35:36):
Gavin McLeod Stubie.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Inspiration.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
What boat was great? I'm gonna say second only to Chips,
if not one A and one B to chicks with
big booble in boobs and no bras, Like we're gonna
wear a very thin fabric top with no bra and
some serious booble in going on in bridtime.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
It's very dark.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, sharp nipples, very sharp nipples beating.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
Out our hero James Worthy and a global basketball icon
like Sonny Vacaro We just had on James Worthy happy Birthday,
a great communicator in front of the show and beating
out Luka Doncic of Lucas Hookah. You know, Luka bought
parking for everybody.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
The other night in Los Angeles, we did an address
on the show, which is one more parking lot that
Lebron are still waiting for you at the Blaze Pizza Lebron,
you know what.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
We were distracted by the pun Houkah Doncic and the
socially conservative non La folks that looked down upon the hookah.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
Everybody loves a hookah bar in New York. Hit these
up beating out the lead singer from Train. Also, who's past.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Manaham?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Every year we do it. I never remember his last name.
I just remember his name's past. This guy's pretty weird.
Fifty five today. Daniel Handler, author, musician, screenwriter.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
That's him, by the way. Born in San Francisco. Father
was the dean of the San Francisco City College. That's
where Desmond Bishop did his thing.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's kind of cool, yeah, I like ju City College.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
Jewish upbringing a young poet and reader, Lowell High School
and then Wellesleyan and just like Lowell High Wesleyan is
the home of the Cardinals. He has written contemporary novels
and plays and stuff like that, but his best selling
series of thirteen novels, A Series of Unfortunate Events, were
(37:44):
written under the pseudonym Lemony Snicket.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
He is Lemony Snicket.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
The Lemony Snicket's about three orphans whose parents die of fire.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
It's very joyful.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
It's a good way to start it.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Now.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
They made a movie with Jim Carrey and a Netflix
series about it. He's written seven other works under the
Snicket pseudonym. For children. He plays the accordion. He is
the accordion player for the indie rock staple sixty nine
Love Songs by the Magnetic Field Pretty Cool, Yeah, and
(38:23):
several other Steven Merritt, who is the Magnetic Fields guy,
as you.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Know, projects.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Challenging individual.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
Well, he got me too, did a handler during the
me too for inappropriate comments.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I mean, I mean, and what he.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
Said, if you look through it is, I mean maybe offensive.
But if that's offensive, Matt, they're gonna be waiting for
you when you get out of the elevator.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
I can't believe I'm still here.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
For being honest, He apologized, uh for what he did.
One of the things he did was to make a
uniball joke when there was children in president.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, you're gonna want to stay away from that.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Well, I mean we just did it right now.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Well, yeah, but we stay away from the kids. The
parents don't know what the petros and money show production is.
That's on them. We've been doing this long enough for there.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
You know.
Speaker 7 (39:21):
Yeah, come on, better of his puzzibility kidding me. He's
married to another writer and illustrator named Lisa Brown, who
he met in college. She writes under the pseudonym Sarah
Pinky Bennett. He seems like an odd guy who is
(39:42):
uh ambivalent about his success and wealth.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
It's it's good accordion, right there, we are your acordian
show up.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
Well, come on, you get on the magnetic field this
even it's no lightweight accordion player. I bet this guy
could play the accordion all over Tanuda's faith Daniel Handler
All right, well, happy birthday to James Worthy most importantly,
and thank you for listening all week, and thank you
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Anthony, New Mexico is the leap Year Capital of America
slash the world. Anytime there is a Feb twenty nine,
which there is not this year, they throw a party.
So every four years it is hosted by a pair
of Leap as they like to call themselves Leaplans, Marian
(03:03):
Brown and Bertie Lewis, and they say it regularly draws
between five and ten thousand people for the Leap Year celebration. Wow,
that sounds like a weird party to roll to right.
My mother in law is a leap lean. Well, I
(03:24):
wonder if I should take her one time? Get over there,
celebrate with Marylyn, find out what happened to Gene Hackman
while you're out While are you're out there? Seems like
something terrible quick hits everybody? Ms quickeits, I'll make.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
It quick, y'all.
Speaker 7 (03:41):
Oh yeah, Jimmy Sexton pulled our chains again.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And Matt Stafford is returning to the Rams.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
He's made a fool of me, all of us.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
The two sides met this morning and the team's announced
that he's back after restructuring his deal. Terms of the
deal were not disclosed.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Stafford has reportedly talked with the Raiders the Giants, but
then decided to come back to the Rams. Whether he
met the Raiders in.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
A chance meeting or in an appointed meeting in Montana
is still up.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
For grabs, And at least he didn't suffer that fate
and may have done like six stories on it, including
my eating up the crow a little bit earlier today,
but at least there was a verbal altercation littered with
f bombs and a call place to NFL security for
fear of assault. That we have to thank for his
dalliance with the Raiders and Tom Brady at a Montana
(04:32):
ski chalet.
Speaker 7 (04:33):
The Giants are reportedly now looking at Aaron Rodgers. It's
a possible solution for their quarterback problem. Currently, Tommy DeVito,
the Italian gentleman, is the only cuts under the contract
for the Giants. The Raiders are expected to investigate veteran
quarterback options and include Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, and Sam Darnold.
(04:55):
And at the NFL combine, Travis Hunter got some wind in.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
His jaws, mister limited, that's Russell Wilson, Travis Hunter Limited.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
Hunter sees himself as even more than that. He talked
to the media today and he was asked him it's
harder to play both ways on the football field or
b sho Hal Tawny and Hunter said something stupid.
Speaker 8 (05:14):
Probably me what I do a football because it's a
lot on your body, you know. Tonny he's a great player.
But you gotta do a lot of in football.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It's regularly shided you got to do a lot of
in football. Yeah, you gotta do a lot in football.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Hitting a baseball is incredibly easy, especially off major league pitching.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
And oh and then being the major league pitcher.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yes, that has to strike out major league hitters. That's
also very easy.
Speaker 8 (05:40):
To probably me what I do a football because it's
a a lot on your body. You know, Tonny, he's
a great player, but you gotta do a lot of
in football.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
His name is not Tony. I like Tony. Tony. That's
a hell of a job.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Out He opened a great DEALI down in the street.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
He really did, Tony.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Listen, you play on the perimeter. I mean you're very good,
but geez, shut up.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Was he talking about Jack Tunny.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
It might have been because that's what Tony did to
the macho man.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Player.
Speaker 8 (06:10):
But you gotta do a lot of football.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You do have to do a lot of that. We
can all we can all agree on that part. Uh.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
The Dodgers taking on the Seraphs and camel back tonight
just today on the mound, that game just underway. We're
gonna carry the one tomorrow. We got Clippers Lakers tonight,
when the Dodgers take on the Giants.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
What do you mean the Dodger games at night? What
do you mean?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Sorry, Fred, you got three hours?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
What?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
No? Kevin? Kevin?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I need you get wiki.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Double up.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I saw the Dodgers Angels were playing and knew we'd
broadcast it.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
The MLB is in talks with Amazon Prime, Netflix, and
NBC about filling the ESPN Baseball TV pack gap. Also
being discussed as Fox Sports getting to the air the
Home Run Derby to go along with its All Star
game coverage, and they can't do worse than the ESPN.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
So I think we could do a good job on
the Home Run Derby.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
You and me?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, I think that would be of an event Taylor
made for us, because really it's completely uninteresting, and you
need folks to be able to fill and find distractions
around the stadium to share with the people on the
way out.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I'd have to hang up my headset and never work again.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Exactly right.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
The Lakers are winners of four in a row. They
host the Clippers tonight. It's going to be a hot one.
We've been talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It Genie w win it.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Yes, sure, I mean they won everything else. Jeanie with
a big Weenie, talked to some media before the Lakers
game last night to do a little bit of a
victory lap. She was asked about the Luca trade and
about JJ Reddick and how he was doing as a
first year head coach. He said, I was worried about
hiring a rookie coach under the team is so important
to this community, and to bring in a rookie coach
and has no experience before that was big lead. But
(08:00):
I knew that Reddick and Polinka would work well together
because they're both so doucheet.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Nope' both so attractive.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
There it is, and I love watching the progress that
they're making because they're both so attractive. Here's JJ after
the game last night talking about his relationship with Jeanie
and her big weenie, and in particular how smooth the
ad Luca trade was handled.
Speaker 9 (08:21):
She's been awesome. And the biggest thing is rob myself, Genie.
You know, in the interview process and in the very
early days this past summer, it was all about creating
alignment and you know, cohesiveness between those three, those two
people who We've done that, thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
When tarn Lu was not able to exit the Clippers
and they realized that that avenue would not take them
across the finish line, our conversations were incredible and I
really liked the direction they were going in.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
It's good.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
That's good translation. That's just like it's Oh my god,
it's a night game.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Can soup?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I can't wait to listen to what? Oh God, first
pitch at what?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
That's only five minutes? Can they cover?
Speaker 7 (09:15):
LeVar Ball had his foot amputated recently, sadly, and it's
made his first appearance since he popped on TikTok.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
For everyone asking how I'm feeling? I may not have
my foot anymore? But you know what I got now
that VERYFICX shutting.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Did y'all forget Lava?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
If I wanted to grow.
Speaker 10 (09:32):
It back, that's fantastic. He's got some special TikTok.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
Verification and he was flossing and he said he's gonna
grow back his foot like a lizard.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
For everyone asking how I'm feeling. I may not have
my foot anymore? But you know what I got now
that VERYFICX shutting, did y'all forget I'm lava if I
want to.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Grow it back? Am I that Conor wooa.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Eddie and another post even hinted the jell I might
have a new song coming out just on Prey's account.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I might swear like we got another new song. Two
guns on my hip because it feels like Lo and Noda?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Two guns on my hippick because it feels like Lawyer
in orda.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Two guns on my hip because it feels like Lo
and Noda.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Well, I would hope you have tell me it's like
law in Order?
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Two guns on my hip because it feels like and Noda.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Two guns on my hip because what you think the
twenty million or whatever that they gave him is, is
uh just.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
For more than one one song?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Two guns on my hip? Pick because I feel like law.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Or turns on my hip because it feels like Lo
and Noda.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
We just my foot.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
But I have a place in this world? Am I
that Conor Woo?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Whoa?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
We all have a place.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Let me get the two guns on my hip again?
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Two guns on my hip?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
There's like two guns on my hep beck does that
fiz like Law and Order?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Did y'all forget I'm lava? If I wanted to grow
it back. Amer in corn Woo.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Ucla is twenty and eight.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Overall eleven and six and the Big ten they are
at perdue now about to kip off.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Two guns on my hip. Beck goes off air law
and orders.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Like more than a couple of guns to take down
at steam Train and uh. Bill.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Belichick and North Carolina are reportedly considering a behind the
scenes look at the team as the focus of HBO's
off season Hard Knock Show. Belichick, who never took part
in the NFL one and despised it because of the
new girlfriend, is going to let her floss out on
freaking HBO.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Hey baby, you do me a favorite. You take that
jacket off and just kind of let it hang there
at your waist, keep the sleeves on, let it hanging
like the kids do while I walk three steps in
front of you at a brisk pace and a winter
jacket that zipped up to my chin.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Let it hang on your hips like two on your
hips because it feels like Law and orcres.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Like I'll grow back my foot. That's all I have to.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Get on Levaul, if I wanted to grow it back,
I don't think you can.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
And and wouldn't you want to Uh, okay, We'll be
back with Sonny Vacaro, the centerpiece of the show today
like on a big, beautiful dining table. Sonny Vacaro with
his memoir joining Matt and I not the Cannons, Matt
and Ice Honey.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
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Speaker 3 (13:26):
Matt joining us right now.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
A legendary figure around the game of basketball, Michael Jordan,
Kobe Bryant, Lebron James. He's been integral at all of
their stories, been a voice on this station going back
decades with the Loose Cannons, appointment based listening with Joe
McDonald and with us Petros and Money. We've only been
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on about twenty years. This new book is out, and
which is awesome that he's got a great memoir out
Legends and Souls, the memoir of an america An original,
and he certainly is that it's available on Amazon and
Barnes and Noble or any bookstore. One of the all
time greats and major players in the development of modern basketball,
(14:13):
Sonny Vacara, on your Southern California Toyota Dealer Celebrity Hotline,
joining us on a seventy LA Sports once again.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Sonny, welcome, How are you?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
I'm all pepped up now after an introduction like that,
I hope I can equal what you're going to ask,
and I'm trying. I'm very happy and I enjoyed a
good life and I'm still enjoying it.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
It's wonderful to hear your voice, and it's great that
you are endeavoring with the with the memoir, looking back
through the years or down the years, as they say,
how surprised are you that basketball revenue and shoe contracts
have have reached the level that they have, and we're
(14:57):
talking about billions of dollars and not hundreds of thousands.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Well, surprise is not the correct what impossible dream improbable?
You know that me being in you know, able to
live this sort of life and be involved with those
things you you said so well, so it's almost impossible
now that it has happened. And watching the progression of that.
I've been around for a long time, guys, as you know, Uh,
(15:23):
it's it's uh, it's it's very awarding. And I'll say
this at the top of the show. The best thing
I ever did of some of the things I was
involved in in my life was Yobanan case and and
and putting the game and the and the way that
you know, the athletes can benefit by as much as
the other people. So that's that's just real quick with you.
(15:45):
I couldn't be happy with my.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Life, Sonny. You write a memoir and and I would
assume there's there's a point or a story. Is there
something that you hope everybody takes away that that resonates
with them. Is there is there something a thread that
you carry through the memoir that you know, maybe inspired
you to write it and to publish it and to
put it out there.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
That's a great thank you. I'll tell you what, if
you follow my journey from the first words that you know,
when I was born in Pennsylvania in nineteen thirty nine
to where we are today, my journey is probably the
most improbable, you know, journey of a lot of people
that we all know, because there was nothing in my
(16:25):
future from my beginnings where growing up, the time of
the world that was Second World War, you know, immigrant parents,
the whole story, you know, the American story. Everybody has
part of where I lived it and I lived a
long time. But I was putting into a situation by
whatever happened to my life, by being involved with good
people and ideas, and that's how you know my life
(16:48):
will en up to my ideas. But to sit there
today and watch what's happened is, you know, the most
gratifying thing for me on the on the athlete part,
but also there were down parts of this improbable journey
and the probable journey that I've had, and that goes
with So to answer your question, if you believe, I
(17:08):
would say to your audience today, if you believe in yourself,
then you start. There are people you grew up with
and aren't your friends anymore. There are a business partners
you may have, or places of employment that you may
be are in part of that you don't you know
you don't associate with, or there are partners I'm bad.
But if believe in yourself, you don't have to do
(17:31):
what I did or what the guys are doing on
the radio today. Just do something the best of your
ability in believing yourself. I think I think my answer
to that question now that i'm you know, pretty much
at the end of my journey here is that was
one thing I always believed in was what I could do.
And mostly things that you'll lead in the book are
(17:54):
things that I didn't probably think of until just minutes
or days before I did them. There was something that,
you know that just happened. I was engaged in something.
But also, even though this is a shining you know,
it's a good way to end up professional life, this book.
But I'll tell you what, there was many tears along
(18:15):
the way, Mandy said, relationship and many sad stories. But
I did what I had to do, and God gave
me the strength to back into my family.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
I wrote this book, The Great Sonny Vacaro joining us
right now on the Petrosen Money Show, telling us it
can't all be wedding cake, even if you have a
legendary story, and it certainly is that. Speaking of having
self belief, you know, we talk about the greats and
the people that you were connected to, and it's constantly
(18:48):
the argument of greatest of all time and who's the goat,
and who's the best basketball player and who was the
most competitive guy in all this. It's hard to imagine, Sonny,
isn't the same from your active that anybody could be
more impactful ever than Michael Jordan was.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Well, no one will ever do what Michael did. Now
I'll go beyond basketball though, I'll go on what he
did in a world of you know, advertising, you know,
ability to sell yourself, you know, marketing. Michael did that.
I've never gotten involved with the generation of great players.
(19:27):
I mean, you know, you go from will you get
the same thing every time?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Right?
Speaker 5 (19:30):
We all have our generations, So I stay away in
that particularly. So there's no question that no one will
ever be able to duplicate what Michael did. Duplicate I mean, yes,
he didn't win more championships. Obviously the Balston Celtics want
more championships. But what he did in the other world
is show what an individual can do with a corporation
(19:53):
or any other business like and end up owning the
whole thing. Join to death. But competitiveness, I've seen them
all and I'm the closest. I was the closest to
for seven or eight years. But there was no one closer,
you know, and more impressive. You know that I would.
But then Kobe Bryant. I knew that he was going
(20:14):
to be a competitor when he came to the ABCD
camp as a junior and he made Remember now no
one knew him then he daddy was in Europe and
all that I knew his father because he played my game.
Made a long story short, Kobe makes the All Star
team freshman or the juniors against the seniors, and he
goes over to me and we give blay of wards
(20:35):
like the All camp. So he made the team and
he was going to his boys to me as fifteen
or sixteen years old that day. I never forgot mister Carroll,
I want to thank you for inviting me to this
wonderful camp, And I said, but I want to apology,
he said, I want to apologize. I said, Kobe, why
to make the All Star teams?
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Whatever? You know?
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And he said, no, next year, I'm coming back and
I'm going to be the most valuable player, he said,
A kid that didn't know most of the people he
was playing against. We understand that now. And you know, Audison,
though Cobe played in high school in Philadelphia, he was
still with jar and you know, make a name for himself.
Although he is talented, that word, and.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
There's six years.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
I was able to stand with him because we lived
in the same We lived on that Tellisafe Drive. Pam
and I lived half way up that thing and in
Joe's home and Kobe's home was on the top of that hill.
So I why I knew Joe and Pam. At least
once a week, Kobe used to call me from the
airplane from coming back from a triple you know, looking
(21:37):
here and and I'll never forget this now share it
with the LA thing. One particular game he come, you know,
he was coming back and he was driving his driver
picked him up, you know, in the way home the
airport to home and then to point in and he
had he had a bad game. You're shooting and and
I said, all right, what's up, young fellow, what do
(21:57):
you do? And he said, now, I want to just
say this and you can bleep it up. And he said,
I said, why did why did you shoot all their shots?
He said, hell, nobody else wanted to sit the goddamn bit.
And that's what he told me. And that was him.
He didn't care. He was eighteen years old. He didn't
(22:18):
care that, you know. All he wanted to make him,
but he certainly wasn't afraid to shoot him.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
I was het.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, got that.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
In many other stories. So Kobe to me. And it's
not because God, bless his soul, he's not here. And
I've said that before and I'll say it to I
die because I'm not going to be involved. He all
these guys were talking about were competitive. They're not a
great athlete unless you're competitive. So I don't want to
mean anyway, but on a personal level, you know, from
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that first thing when he was sixteen years old and
he told me he was good and he wanted to
have MVP the next year.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, I'll tell you, Sonny. It's it's so compelling and interesting.
The stories on the court with the players, and I'll
be honest, I find just the shoe market and the
explosion of the athletic shoe market that people start wearing around.
It's not sneakers, it's not loafers, but people start wearing
basketball shoes to go out to dinner as as you know,
(23:12):
dress shoes for all intents and purposes with you know,
thousand dollars outfits, and that's a big part of your legacy.
I'd love to know, because I don't correct me if
you think I'm wrong. I don't think anything has ever
touched that Jordan one. There is just something about that red,
white and black high top that seemed to change everything
in terms of a legitimate basketball shoe that should be
(23:36):
worn on a court now being worn as a fashion accessory.
Kind of walk us through what went into that first
Air Jordan, that red white and black Air Jordan, and
just kind of how you came up with the concept
and if you knew immediately the second you laid your
eyes on it that this was going to be a
game changer.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Well, I'm going to go right to Peter Moore because
I wanted that you have seen in air. There wasn't
as dramatage what they put in there all. But I
was there with Lob and Peter and he shared. Peter
Moore and Rob and I were the first time he
talked about when he had to change it, because we
all agreed and Jill Night included that it couldn't be
an ordinary issue. So now we're doing the extreme and
(24:16):
we're going to make it red, and we're going to
do it we want to really get fined by the NBA.
At that time, they returned with Pete Odin. We actually
did the five Dog dollar five. But to sit there
the first day and watch it and telling you guys
all these years later that I knew what it was,
I didn't. But I'll tell you what I did know.
I did know that this company, Nike you were going
(24:37):
to back it. I did know that Peter Moore totally
bleed in it. Now he wanted to Peter Moore that
he ended up being, you know, favourite for the for
the logo. He was just beginning also with Nike. This
was his first but he he did have that the
red was so blatantly offensive to what they were doing.
(24:57):
It had it had to be margin one of the
monumental things in marketing because I believe I don't know,
especially in nineteen eighty four, what other newe company would
even have thought of that, but Moore did. We went
against the grain and that was the first, the first one.
I mean, that's why so original. There was never anything
(25:18):
like it. The red was like, you know, po on you,
I'm doing this and it looks great.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
That's a wonderful answer, Suddy. You're a great story teller,
teller and your own right. Did you did you like
the movie that was around the last time we talked
to you, when Air came out? What did you What
did you think about the job?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
They did?
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Well, they did a great job. It was a movie,
a lot of it. They took luxury work making a movie.
They left got some you know, good parts. But I
can say this. I was on the set and I
was involved with this movie. Mister Googer asked me to
do one thing. Make sure everything that I said that
Matt could talk about. Matt and I spent a lot
(26:02):
of you know, we did a lot of zooms. First
time they ever called me, we were off an hour
and a half. I spent a whole day on the set.
You know, and when they did the I mean I
was there. I can say this. There was more some embellishments,
but I can tell this audience that speech that Matt
did and to missus Jordan's I say a lot of
(26:22):
things and most of those words were spoken for me,
the Matt and he they were to put in there
more dramatically. Obviously it was you know, I haven't had
many thrills. I mean, I can't make this the most
obvious one. But the movie was was not alive. I mean,
there were they so you took their you know, movie
(26:46):
freedom to those people. But I can basically say that
put me over the top. I mean because I think
until the movie it was it was a little rougher
ride for me because a lot of people were saying,
did I just do certain things with certain things I did?
And I spelled that out well in the book. But
(27:06):
I think the movie just shut up everybody because why
Michael told Ben I have no problem with sonning through
the movie. He just wanted someone to play Viola, his
mother and Viola. You know, Nike never did anything about
the movie, which lots of words. There weren't too many things.
I guess the pammatory that might have been stretched. So
(27:29):
that's what the movie did for me, gentlemen. The movie
move towards my book, my memoir.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And the book is Legends and Souls sol e es
I little word play there, the memoir of an American original.
Last thing for me, Sonny, do you ensure there's been
a lot of talk. I don't know if you saw
the comments Lebron made about, you know, the perils of
being the face of the league. That's just so much
negativity because of the comparisons to Jordan and how no
(27:56):
one could ever possibly live up to it, and it's
such a hard thing to have to contend with. Do
you enjoy the game? Do you like where the game
is now?
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Well? I enjoy the players. I mean, the game has
changed since I've everyone scores ten thousand points a game
in three pointers or you know whatever. I mean, it's
still getting, it's still competitive. I think the reason we
don't enjoy it is because these kids and our men
you know, are pretty goddamn good too. They're pretty good.
(28:27):
I just think basketball hadn't been able to stand up
with the people we have now. Instead of having individuals
on one team like where they had Magic or this
guy or that guy. It took a year to get
another guy to go. Another guy got this year. You're
playing in the NBA and the first in that first
two groups. You're pretty god game good. So I don't
follow with that much. I root for people. I like
(28:49):
to get all my news at the end of the
light at night and see how who wins and lose it.
But the competitiveness and what Lebron said, Lebron probably right
now today forty something whatever, the most interesting person playing
basketball because of his age and his ability, also his
knowledge of the game. I don't think any other athlete
(29:11):
in this modern area is still playing. Can we'll leave
out the guys that I'm playing anymore that are playing,
will ever ever be able to do for the game
you know in the future that Lebron is doing for
the game right now. Basically he is the faith of
the NBA. And if the Anchors after this unbelievable trade
(29:32):
that they fell into, I guess I don't know what
else to say, but they're pretty good now. I don't
think they could win. This guy. If this kid could,
he only gonna be a kid to be when's this one,
there's gonna be some heat on to get over things
because he is interesting. I hope I didn't avoid your question.
You know, I'm not that involved anymore. But I do
(29:53):
love the game but best and I love the.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
Players well, always involved in our hearts and minds. And
of of course the memoir is out Legends and Souls, Uh,
the memoir of an American original.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Get it now.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
It's on Amazon and all the places you can get
books any bookstore. Sonny Vaccaro, God bless you Sonny and
your family and and Pam, and thank you for having us.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
We will absolutely.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
The best hero in the world of basketball and shoes
and we'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
We are your shoe show of wrecks. Come on, look
at us.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
We're dead stock, mgloons and we're moccasins.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Well, that's.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
That's that's about a month away from going barefooty pretty
much like like one of.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Those chicks in high school. A toe ring and an ankle,
little hemp brace on the ankle.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
We'll be back with your den and a live guy
birthday and the.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
Thanks for listening, and thank you for a great week
and great sports talk everybody.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
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Speaker 2 (31:28):
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Speaker 3 (31:42):
Happening right now, right now.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
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Most importantly, though, as your home of the World Series
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First pitch just after high noon, twelve oh five pm.
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Speaker 7 (32:05):
Let there be no confusion. This has been scheduled. Talk
on the Petroston Money Show. Time check, time, check schedel.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
All right, Matt, you got the dead guy birthday?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I do uh freaking stubbing dude, captain stoubing happy. It
would have been ninety fourth to Gavin McLoud. He was
the that was his screen name. He was born Alan
George C. Yes in Mount Kissco, New York. Mother worked
for Readers Digest. If you remember that kid's it was
(32:40):
a staple at your grandparents' house.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
Oh, there's a basket with like two exactly exactly right,
he's been there, right next to the every grandparents house
had a basket with a bunch of Readers Digests and
a candy dish with a bunch of bros butterscotch, maybe
as original ice werthers.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Maybe a blanket on top of the basket.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Uh, I had the books, Yeah, to cover their legsactly
before they grabbed for the redears.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Before they grabbed for the twelve page summary of the
four hundred page novel. For whatever reason, that's how they
enjoyed to read back then. Father, an electrician in Native
American Chippewa, grew up in Pleasantville, New York. Studied fine
arts at Ithaca College, graduated, enlisted in the United States
Air Force. When he got out, moved to the Big town.
(33:26):
Worked at Radio City Music Hall. While chasing his dream,
said he thought being alan Ce was getting in the
way of his success. He said the last name Sea
was too confusing, so he went Gavin Mclaw and Bank
starts working television debut in nineteen fifty seven, The Walter
Winchell File. Blake Edwards saw it, loved him, cast him
(33:48):
in his NBC series Peter Gunn. But it was his
role on Operation Petticoat, Oh, Peter Gunn, Kerry Grant, Tody
Curtis that really got him notice. December sixty one, he
landed a guest role on The Dick Van Dyke Show.
That was his first time working with Mary Tyler Moore.
You heard the theme a little bit earlier there. He
did Perry Mason, Andy Griffiths Show, Hogan's Heroes, Ironside, My
(34:08):
Favorite Martian, the first season of Hawaii five. Oh, he
made the TV rounds Man but Murray Slaughter Mary Tyler
Moore show. That was the big breakout won him lasting fame.
He earned two Golden Globe nominations. And then you hear
it in the background. Stubie broadcast in nineteen countries worldwide.
(34:35):
Love Boat ran from seventy seven to eighty six. That
is a freaking eternity.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Three.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
That would be no Captain Stabbing without Captain Stubie. He
should be grateful.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
That got him a gig after the show as an
ambassador for Princess Cruise Lines. He then joined the Gods Squad,
was given his own show on the Trinity Broadcast Network
TVN to Evangeli Eyes and spread the good word. Was
inducted or enshrined or cemented into the Palm Springs Walk
(35:09):
of Fame.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Oh nice, that's a good one.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
That is a good one, right next to Fred Rogan
and Lisa vander poppin Sonny Bone.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
And some people think that maybe that's what he was
hanging on for, because you know, he gets his star
on the Walk of Fame and like two weeks later
he's dead. Steuby's like finally, finally I've made it, and
then he was gone at ninety. But yes, Alan C,
(35:36):
Gavin McLeod Stubie.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Inspiration.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
What boat was great? I'm gonna say second only to Chips,
if not one A and one B to chicks with
big booble in boobs and no bras, Like we're gonna
wear a very thin fabric top with no bra and
some serious booble in going on in bridtime.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
It's very dark.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, sharp nipples, very sharp nipples beating.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
Out our hero James Worthy and a global basketball icon
like Sonny Vacaro We just had on James Worthy happy Birthday,
a great communicator in front of the show and beating
out Luka Doncic of Lucas Hookah. You know, Luka bought
parking for everybody.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
The other night in Los Angeles, we did an address
on the show, which is one more parking lot that
Lebron are still waiting for you at the Blaze Pizza Lebron,
you know what.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
We were distracted by the pun Houkah Doncic and the
socially conservative non La folks that looked down upon the hookah.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
Everybody loves a hookah bar in New York. Hit these
up beating out the lead singer from Train. Also, who's past.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Manaham?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Every year we do it. I never remember his last name.
I just remember his name's past. This guy's pretty weird.
Fifty five today. Daniel Handler, author, musician, screenwriter.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
That's him, by the way. Born in San Francisco. Father
was the dean of the San Francisco City College. That's
where Desmond Bishop did his thing.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's kind of cool, yeah, I like ju City College.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
Jewish upbringing a young poet and reader, Lowell High School
and then Wellesleyan and just like Lowell High Wesleyan is
the home of the Cardinals. He has written contemporary novels
and plays and stuff like that, but his best selling
series of thirteen novels, A Series of Unfortunate Events, were
(37:44):
written under the pseudonym Lemony Snicket.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
He is Lemony Snicket.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
The Lemony Snicket's about three orphans whose parents die of fire.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
It's very joyful.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
It's a good way to start it.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Now.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
They made a movie with Jim Carrey and a Netflix
series about it. He's written seven other works under the
Snicket pseudonym. For children. He plays the accordion. He is
the accordion player for the indie rock staple sixty nine
Love Songs by the Magnetic Field Pretty Cool, Yeah, and
(38:23):
several other Steven Merritt, who is the Magnetic Fields guy,
as you.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Know, projects.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Challenging individual.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
Well, he got me too, did a handler during the
me too for inappropriate comments.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I mean, I mean, and what he.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
Said, if you look through it is, I mean maybe offensive.
But if that's offensive, Matt, they're gonna be waiting for
you when you get out of the elevator.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
I can't believe I'm still here.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
For being honest, He apologized, uh for what he did.
One of the things he did was to make a
uniball joke when there was children in president.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, you're gonna want to stay away from that.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Well, I mean we just did it right now.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Well, yeah, but we stay away from the kids. The
parents don't know what the petros and money show production is.
That's on them. We've been doing this long enough for there.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
You know.
Speaker 7 (39:21):
Yeah, come on, better of his puzzibility kidding me. He's
married to another writer and illustrator named Lisa Brown, who
he met in college. She writes under the pseudonym Sarah
Pinky Bennett. He seems like an odd guy who is
(39:42):
uh ambivalent about his success and wealth.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
It's it's good accordion, right there, we are your acordian
show up.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
Well, come on, you get on the magnetic field this
even it's no lightweight accordion player. I bet this guy
could play the accordion all over Tanuda's faith Daniel Handler
All right, well, happy birthday to James Worthy most importantly,
and thank you for listening all week, and thank you
for podcasting when we're not around and streaming live on
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the iHeartRadio app Enjoy the Lakers, Clippers tonight, what is
also known as a quarterly holiday for fully functional employee
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