July 8, 2025 • 45 mins
David and Tim talk Lakers and Clippers Free-Agency and the 15 year anniversary of The Decision. NBA Insider Jovan Buha on the signing of Deandre Ayton and any futures moves. Former UCLA basketball coach Jim Harrick is a big Dodgers fan!
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David tim In for Petro some Money until three thirty
and Dodgers pregame Dodgers in Milwaukee. Dave Keeping his distance
from American Family Field in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Since what happened a couple years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Twenty twenty two, it was all a blur. Here I
am thanks to doctor Shin putting my wrist back together.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
He still have a scar, don't you.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Oh yeah, that's the scar where you put a plate
in my right wrist.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Oh look at that.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, see it.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Three.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
You've never seen that. I've never seen that before. Huh.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
I've seen you make that fist. Yeah, there's a T
shirt made out of it right sold out on road.
Awaar by the way, very nice. I'll never forget that night, David,
when you got hurt that day, I should say, and
we're like, man, is David gonna be okay? You're on
TV that night. Next thing you know, text message, good
to go working again. You're back working radio and TV.
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Back from the hospital.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I had responsibilities. I had responsibility these to you, to
sports ned La and uh, you know, my wife was
in Milwaukee when that all went down because my mother
in law is from Milwaukee and my wife's grandmother had
just passed away, so she was in Milwaukee for the
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funeral with my kids. And I go down the slide
break my ribs and wrist, and yeah, it did not
go over well at all. It did not. I was
on the rollaway bed that night, My wife and kids
were sleeping in the hotel bed, and yeah, that wasn't
that was the worst part of the whole situation.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Do you still have like PTSD thinking about it, and
that's maybe why you didn't want to go.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Back to Milwaukee. No, that's not it at all. That's
not it at all. In fact, the reason why I'm
staying back is getting a head start on the All
Star break coming up on Saturday. Yeah, all Star breaks
coming up. Yeah, are kind of coasting into that all
all right, right, No, stumbling in it with injuries is
what they are doing. They don't have senior itis. They
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don't have spring break on my mind. We went through
the lineup today, I mean, this is not a best
record in the National League type of lineup. Otani Betts, Freeman,
pahz is your cleanup hitter and right field Confortos and
left Kim's at second. No Tommy Edman in the lineup
for a third straight day. No Oskar Hernandez in the
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lineup for a third straight day. Dalton rushing catching outman
and center Rojas at third, And this is my point.
Just put Taoscar Hernandez on the il. Give him and
he's missed three days, why not just let him miss
the rest of the first half, get three or four
days of the break, come back strong when the Dodgers
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see who else the brewers at Dodger Stadium after the break.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Now that he's got three thousand strikeouts, and this is
something that somebody asked me yesterday, David, and I want
to bring it up with you. It will get into
Lakers and Clippers talk here in a second. Jovon Boujas
had to join us at the bottom of the hour.
Now that he's gotten three thousand strikeouts, you know Clayton
Kershaw very well, he's still hungry, right, He's still hungry
to go and win a championship this year because there's
some thought that, well he got his three thousand strikeouts,
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this could be his last year going to the All
Star Game. Now this is it. This is the final
Swong song. He got to what he wanted. He got
the championships, the cy Youngs. He can check this box
three thousand. That's good.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
He came back because I believe he would have had
a lot of fomo if the Dodgers won the World Series.
He saw how good this team is and understood they
had the best chance of any team in the last
twenty five years to repeat his champions in Major League Baseball.
That's the reason why he came back. It wasn't for
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three thousand strikeouts. It was, in my opinion, a strong
sense of fomo if he wasn't around the team this year.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Speaking of not being around the team, Joe Kelly not
around the team, But Joe Kelly will be out there
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Bobblehead night out at Loan Mark Field for the Rancho
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Cucamonga Quakes baseball game. We got tickets to the Quakes,
We got Dodgers tickets. We got a fifty five inch
TV from Westinghouse to give away at two Nights State
at MGM Resorts in Las Vegas to get away, but
we transitioned to a little NBA David today in Elson Gundo.
In about an hour from now, DeAndre Eighton will be
introduced to the media. He is now a Laker after
a buyout in Portland. The all the moves that the
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Lakers could have made this offseason. I didn't see DeAndre
eight and on my Bengo car. But now that he's
a Laker, I mean, he's twenty six, still got a
little gas in the tank. You'd like the hope fourteen
to ten he averaged a year ago. They needed a
rim protector, a guy who can actually be there around
the rim in the playoffs, where they didn't have against
Minnesota in that series is show. I mean you talk
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about a guy who fell into their love. DeAndre Ayden
could be a perfect fit for.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
This Lakers team.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Rob Polinka might not be the best GM out there,
but he certainly is very lucky. Luca fell into his
lap and here he is. DeAndre Ayton. Not a bad
consolation prize if you're the Lakers. But it does remind
me of guys like Kwame Brown. He's of that ilk
when you hear a guy that doesn't have a motor
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needs to be motivated. His best year actually was the
year the Suns went to the Finals and Chris Paul
was still Chris Paul. It was Chris Paul, who, by
the way, is a very edgy player. I know it
comes across in those commercials as a very happy, go lucky,
sweet type of guy. I've covered Chris Paul when he
was with the Lakers. He is the complete opposite. He's
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more on the spectrum Michael Jordan than he is of
a nice guy. As far as being your teammate, he
is going to be all over you. And my understanding
is when Ayton was with the Suns, Chris Paul was
all over him and got the best out of him
that year. Who's gonna be that guy for the Lakers?
Who is Lebron James really gonna motivate DeAndre wo Is
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he really gonna be that guy? I don't think so.
He's never really been in his career that motivator. Yeah,
we're talking about Lebron needing to motivate Luca. Is Luca
gonna be that guy for DeAndre Ayton? I don't think so.
Is JJ Reddick gonna be that guy?
Speaker 7 (07:28):
So?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I always question when you hear a player that's as
talented as DeAndre Ayton being available a this way, be
having to question whether or not he can stay motivated.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
I mean, one motivation might be him and Luca same
draft twenty eighteen. They share the same agent, both looking
for a championship. Maybe they motivate themselves, who knows. But
you're right, there's no Chris Paul. There's no vocal leader
on this team. That's sort of been the issue with
Lebron and the Lakers the last few years. It's sort
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of been Lebron and Anthony Davis and everybody else on
the team. And now it's Lebron and the rest of
the team with Luca now being the new face.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Is this still a thing where Chris Paul might join
the Lakers? Because if Chris Paul's on the Lakers as
a bench player, he'll command that type of respect and
certainly push DeAndre Ayton. So you know, if that's the case,
maybe that's Paul's role at this stage of his career.
But how many old guys are you gonna bring? Now?
There's rumors that the Utah Jazz are going to buy
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out Kevin Love, and Kevin Love may be signed by
the Lakers for a cheap price. You know, Kevin Love
and Lebron won a championship together in Cleveland, but both
players are well past their prime. It would be a
great full circle moment for Kevin Love because his father,
who passed away this year, Stan Love, played for the
Lakers in the mid seventies. So I would love to
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see Kevin Love come back to La finish his career
with the Lakers. But you can't have Kevin Love and
Chris Paul and Lebron James on the same team.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
We love Kevin Love, he's a UCLA guy, but I
don't see the five points a game that they necessarily
need from him off the bench. I mean, he didn't
play a lot in Miami last year.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
He can't move. All he could do was spot up
and shoot threes.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Can you rebound anymore?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I mean, he's fine if you want to put him
at the end of the bench like Miami did. But
when you have Kevin Love and you have Lebron James,
and you have Chris Paul, isn't that too many old
guys on the same team.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
That points to me being this is the year they're
going all in with these old guys in Luca. And
if it doesn't work this year, if they bring it
to Chris Paul to go with the Lebron James Arono,
next year cut bait. Lebron's a free agent, he leaves
and now is Luca's team and you got a ton
of cap space.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, I think the Lakers are counting down the days,
Like if you have alimony support. I knew a colleague
that was paying their expouse money and they had a
timer on their phone on the day that they're alimone
and he would expire. I wonder if the Lakers are
doing that with Lebron James. And look, I'm a big
Lebron James guy. I'm not a guy like everybody else
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that wants to shove him out the door. He's a
really he is the best player of this generation, one
of the top five players in NBA history. So I'm
not as eager as other people to get rid of Lebron,
But you know, I just don't. You got to build
around him in a better way and not let him
dictate who's coming in. Because Chris Paul was in his wedding,
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they were in each other's weddings. So all of a sudden,
you're bringing in Kevin Love and Chris Paul. That has
Lebron James written all over it. And speaking of Kevin Love,
the reason why he's now a Jazz and not a
Cavalier is because the Jazz, the Heat and the Clippers
made a trade yesterday that sent a very popular player
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with the Clippers, Norman Powell, to Miami for John Collins,
who averaged nineteen points last year with Utah to the Clippers.
Can John Collins play defense the way Norman Powell can play? Canny?
Norman Powell is maybe the most underappreciated player in the NBA.
I love Norman Powell. Yeah, he's He's a guy that
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can fit in anywhere and anytime Miami pat Riley Eric
Spolstra wants a player, it makes me suspicious. I found
the Clippers. I don't trade Norman Powell.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Well, I think for both teams, they realized two expiring
contracts after this year, both players probably not coming back
to the respective teams. It's probably a better fit to
have John Collins on this Clippers team.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
But with that, why is that? Because he can score.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Well, he's a different option than a Norman Powell. You're
gonna lose the defense, certainly, certainly, But who plays defense
in the NBA now apparently nobody?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, uh is John Collins. I don't know much about him.
Is he that good?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
He's a good player. But to me, it's it's a
switch John Collins Norman Powell. Point wise, you're basically just
it's a wash from one guy going to the other team.
You're losing defen with Norman Powell. With this all being said, David,
today's a big day. We alluded to it earlier. It's
July eighth, twenty twenty five, fifteen years ago. Today was
the decision. Now you look at the NBA and where
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it's at now, it's a player driven league. It's a
player empowerment era because of Lebron, the Big Three in
Miami leading to the Brooklyn Nets trying to get a
big three to the Lakers. Remember tried to Big three
at one point, bringing in Steve Nash and crew. That
didn't work out. They have tried to copy everything Lebron
has done. By the Big three and then the one
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plus one deals in Cleveland and with the Lakers. Oh,
what are you going to do it help surround my team,
who's going to be coaching my team. He empowered himself
and helped take over organization.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
But the teams and the organizations allowed him to do
solutely because he's Lebron. But they've allowed other players around
the NBA kad to a lesser extent to do it
as well, like a Kevin Durant of Paul George, a
Kawhi Leonard few years ago in free agency. Well, I'll
come to the Clippers, but you got to bring another
superstar with me to me get Paul George to me.
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Kawhi Leonard and what he did to the Clippers is
more scandalous than what Lebron James has done as far
as trying to leverage his power with the Lakers. Do
people realize that it was Kawhi Leonard that wanted Paul
George and told the Clippers you better get me Paul
George or I'm not signing with you. They were trying
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to do the Lebron James thing, like you said, and
in turn traded this year's NBA Finals MVP Shay Gilgris Alexander,
along with multiple first round picks to the Oklahoma City
Thunder and in turn have helped Sam Presty build this
dynasty in Oklahoma City. This could have been the Clippers.
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And you have Kawhi Leonard, who has barely played a
full season in three years. You can thank him for
the Clippers' future being mortgaged. You know, it's not always
what's right in front of you. You got to think
about what you had. And my understanding is Jerry West
did not want to make that trade, but was in
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favor of trying to find a way to bring in
Kawhi and Paul George at the time. But I mean,
how do you trade Shay Gilgris, Alexander and all those
picks to appease at that point in time a guy
that was not healthy and doesn't play and has a
reputation for really coasting and is the poster child for
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load management in Kawhi Leonard. The Clippers to me get
and as everything in LA, the Lakers always are at
the forefront. But to me, the Clippers are the ones
that should be kicking themselves every day for that trade
and for being held hostage by Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Coming up, we'll get into more NBA talk. You Havevon
Bouja I'm really athletic. Now you can check him out
on YouTube. He's got big things coming up in big
announcements as far as where he'll be this NBA season,
but he'll help us get into this Lakers situation. DeAndre
Ayton be introduced to the Lakers media. Coming up here
shortly in El Segunda. We'll hear from Jim Herrick coming
up at the back end of this hour, so we
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lead you up to Dodgers' pregame Dodgers in Milwaukee taking
on the Brewers this afternoon. Clayton Kershaw on the mount.
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Davin joining us now, one of the best NBA insiders,
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find it on Spotify, Apple Podcasts. He is Jovan Bouha
and he joins us now. On a busy day for
the Lakers, you'll want introducing DeAndre Ayton in Elson Gundo today.
We'll start right there DeAndre Ayton. Nice move for the Lakers,
nice pickup exactly kind of what they needed.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Right.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Yeah, I think it's a great move for the Lakers,
especially on in eight point one million dollar contract next season.
I think if it's DeAndre and on a thirty five
point six million dollar contract, which was the contract he
was bought out by Portland from, that's one story that
there's a certain expectation with that. But for eight point
one million dollars, you are not going to find a
guy who averages fifteen to ten for his career and
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is a mid to high fifties field goal percentage guy.
So I think if you look at the things that
the Lakers needed with their starting center going into next season,
he checks basically all the boxes. He's an elite lob threat.
It can roll finisher, he can post up, is a
good offensive rebounder and defensive rebounder, and I think is
a solid rim protector, can some mobility defensively. So I
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think he checks a lot of the boxes of what
the Lakers need. And again on that value contract of
almost half of the non taxpayer mid level exception, I
think it's a steal for the Lakers. So I don't
think it was Plan A for them. I think Plan A,
my understanding, was retaining Dorian and Finny Smith and coming
to some sort of agreement with him, but once that
fell through, they pivoted to Plan B. A. I think
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their Plan B is arguably even better landing Dorian, I mean,
excuse me, landing DeAndre Ayton and Jaco Arabia Jovan.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Everything you said is true about Ayton when he's motivated
to play. Is that a question on how you're going
to keep this guy motivated all season long? And who's
going to be that guy.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how that happened,
you know, just how they kind of navigate that. There
have been some concerns or issues in the past with
his motor and motivation, but from what I've been told,
he has a really good relationship with Luka Doncic, and
both top three picks in the twenty eighteen draft, both
share the same agent, so they've developed a friendship over
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the years, their families have met each other, and Luca
was a driving force in eight and coming to the Lakers.
So I think that relationship you'll see DeAndre really buy
into the role that the Lakers want from him. Also,
Scott Brooks, who's an assistant on the Lakers staff, was
an assistant with Portland for a year while DeAndre was
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there and they developed a strong rapport. So I think
those two guys, like those two relationships will be key.
But also DeAndre is kind of at a crossroads here
where if you know, this situation doesn't work out with
the Lakers, he could be looking at, you know, not
the type of long term money that he would want.
Like ideally, I think for him, he has a really
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good year with the Lakers, They're very successful, he is
thriving as their starting center, and then he opts out
next summer and signs a long term, multi year, you know,
double digit million contract with either the Lakers or another team.
So I think he's got a lot writing on this season.
The Lakers have a lot riding on this season and
need a lot from him. So I think there's a
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kind of a mutual desperation and understanding of what's at
stake on both sides. But I think Luca and Scott
Brooks are two key figures here who will help, I think,
get the best out of DeAndre.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Aiden Jovan Booja is our guest here on the Petros
and Money Show on a five seventy LA Sports Jovan.
How does Lebron James fit into all this? That's hard
to question considering he's one of the best players ever,
But how does he fit with the Lakers and does
he still fit?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I think he still fits, you know.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
I think you look at the close to last season,
and I mean, this was a group that won fifty
games with the number three seed. They had a bunch
of statement wins to close last season, wins against Denver
and New York and Boston and Golden State and the
Clippers and the Timbwolves, and like, they basically beat every
good team with the exception of Cleveland they played twice
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early in the season, So I think they showed a
certain ceiling and there was a reason why there's a
lot of optimism with this group going into the postseason.
Obviously flamed out in the first round in just five games,
But I think Lebron still fits. I think the bigger
question in my opinion is just like what does he
want and does he view this team as a championship
level team?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Is he satisfied with the.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Improvements that they've made and I'm sure they'll still be
active and in terms of clating up the back end
of the roster or potentially making a consolidation trade or something.
But if they don't make a big trade for another
like high level starting piece, is he okay with where
things are at, or does he want to potentially explore
a different avenue, you know, go to potentially a different
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team via buyout or trade. I think buyout's really unlikely
because that would require Lebron either giving up a bunch
of money or the Lakers accepting his salary just sitting
on their cap sheet, which really wouldn't make sense. So
I think Lebron is going to take that pay cut.
It would have made far more sense to just opt
out and sign a smaller term deal with a different team.
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So I really don't see a buy out happening. I
think the one thing that could potentially happen, though I
would put it very unlikely, would be a trade, but
that would have to require Lebron demanding out asking out.
He has no trade clause, so he can dictate which
team he goes to, and even if he likes the deal, right,
because I think the other thing is he's making fifty
three million dollars, So to match that salary, you've got
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to send out a lot. So I think Lebron would
also have to not only like want a certain team
or a certain list of teams, but also like their
roster post trade. So there's a lot of moving parts,
a lot of factors that go into this. So havingk
Lebron is going to remain a Laker going into next season,
I think that is the far most likely outcome here.
But obviously he has not been thrilled with the roster
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in general for the last few years, and he applies
pressure in different ways, and I think this latest those
statements were him kind of trying to do that in
his own way with him seeing the finish line of
only one to two more years left.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
He created this player in power era back in twenty
ten with the decision, which by the way, happened fifteen
years ago.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Today.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Does he still have that power Yovan?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
I think he does just in terms of because especially
with the no trade cause he's only one of two
players who have a real no trade cause. There's some
guys like Jackson Hayes actually just waived his no trade clause.
But with some guys, if you sign a one year
deal you've been off a team for multiple seasons, you
get an implicit veto right, which is basically a no
trade cause. But Lebron James and Bradley Beal, those are
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the two guys in the leagues who have no trade caluses,
So there's a certain power that comes with that. I
think with the Lakers, obviously the dynamic has changed where
they are now focused more on Luca and building the
best team around Luca for the foreseeable future, and even
if that comes at the expense of this upcoming season,
and more so about the following season or a couple
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of years from now, and like can they find that
next superstar to pair with Luca. So I think for
the first time in Lebron's career, he's not at the
center of the organization and like the most important person
or most important player in the organization. I think the
Lakers have made it clear they have shifted toward prioritizing Luca.
But Lebron is still Lebron. He's arguably the greatest of
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all time, and he, to your point, like invented the
player empowerment movement. So I think he'll always have a
certain level of power and juice, but obviously the dynamic
has changed with the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
We talked about this a little bit earlier, jovonn the
fact that today is the anniversary of the decision that
he made that back on July eighth, twenty ten. Here
we are in twenty twenty five. How do you look
at the NBA now and how much he has changed
the NBA from superpower teams to contracts to the one
and plus ones that he was so notorious for doing
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the last few years in Cleveland and with the Lakers
and the empowerment era of the players in the NBA.
Is the NBA better off now here fifteen years later
after Lebron sort of started this player empowerment era.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
It's a really good question.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
I I lean, yes, I understand there are a lot
of skeptics or a lot of critics with the way
that things have trended. But it's always been fascinating to
me that basically, in any other you know, form of work,
if you are a top I guess now it would
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be like an AI developer or coder or whatever. Like
when you come out of school, you have your pick
of you know, you could go to Apple or Google,
or whatever company you want, and you have a say
in this. And obviously you know sports that there's a
reason there's a draft, and there's a reason why the
cbas are the way that they are. But I think
for far too long it was just kind of about
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you get drafted to a certain situation, and maybe you
get traded at like the midway point in your career,
or you've flamed out a bunch of times and you
haven't had the success that you've wanted, and you get
like one shot to go to another team, and like,
you know, you don't really have a say in how
your career goes. But I think with lebron On he
flipped that on its head and said, like, no, we're
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the most valuable commodity in this organization. Like these are
multi billion dollar organizations that are built on our backs,
and we're the ones, you know, that are driving the
ticket sales and the merchandise and just the TV deals
and all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
And yet we get, you know.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Kind of treated like just little cogs in this machine
that you know, we are the machine. So I think
in some ways he kind of flipped it on its head.
And I do think from a player perspective, it makes
a lot more sense for them to have a lot
more power, a lot more control over No, I don't
want to play for this team and I have a
short ten to fifteen career, or I guess, in Lebron's case,
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a twenty five year career, where you know, I want
to dictate. I want to play for this team. I
want to play with these guys. I want to win
a championship. I want to go for it. So I think,
obviously not everyone has operated the way that Lebron operates,
but I do think overall has been more of a
net positive than a net negative for players and just
their freedom and their ability to dictate their very short
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pro athlete careers.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
NBA and Lakers in center Jobam Bouja with us here
on a five seventy LA Sports. Make sure you check
them out on Booja's Block podcast.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
All Right, we always want to know what's next. It's
great they got DeAndre Ayden. It's great Lebron James has
opted in. So what is next for the Lakers? Is
there another move to be made here? How do they
fill out this roster with an impact player?
Speaker 6 (27:27):
I think there should be. Now, will there be I
don't have clarity on that. I know the Lakers are
exploring a couple pats right now. I think a clear
need with this roster is perimter defense wing defense.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
If you look at it, it is.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Heavily concentrate, like the key players are heavily concentrated in
the front court, but primarily power forward types, guys like
Lebron Luca's a point guard offensively, but more of a
power forward defensively, Ruy Jake La Ravia, DeAndre Ayt, and
Jackson Hayes. So they got a lot of guys at
that four or five position, but not many guys who
can guard real threes and even some twos.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
So I think they need some sort of upgrade.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
It's probably gonna be tough to find that guy in
free agency, so it probably has to come in the
form of a trade.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
But I really think they need two guys.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
I think they need a starting level guy and another
key bench guy, but at least one of those positions,
if not both. But I've heard they are exploring the
wing market. It's a pretty tough wing market right now.
Asking prices are very high. There's also just limited supply.
Not many guys actually available to trade so that they
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have some limited resources in terms of their own assets.
They only have one first round pick to trade, one
attracted young player in Balton Connect, and then some expirings.
But like that doesn't really get you much in twenty
twenty five, so I think the other thing they're looking
at is a consolidation trade. So they got a non
guaranteed contract of shake Milton, can they flip him with
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a Gabe Vincent or with a Maxi Kliba, get off
some money, open up a couple of roster spots, and
then go sign someone with their five point one million
dollar bi annual exception or even just a that minimum
contract to bring the roster to fourteen. They like carrying
one empty roster spot going into the season, so I
wouldn't be surprised if they find some type of deal
where they could clear some salary and clear a couple
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roster spots and then sign somebody. But right now, I mean,
it's looking like they're probably going to have close to
this roster. Again, maybe they're able to strike some sort
of trade where where they're able to sign someone, but
it is for now looking like this is close to
the likely roster that they'll enter the season with and
then have some flexibility with could they trade some of
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these expirings or the pick at some point during the season.
But again, these things are a lot of moving parts.
It's very fluid, so that could change by a few
hours from now.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Great insign from one of the best NBA reporters, Lakers
insider Yo Vambuja, joined us year on a five seventy
LA Sports on this Tuesday afternoon on appreciate the timing man,
thanks a.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Lot, appreciate you for having me.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
All right, the NBA in twenty twenty five. The roster's
always changing, David.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, and I'm excited for the Lakers to see what
they can do a full year with Luca. Let's see
what they can do to build around them. Man, Look,
DeAndre Ayton could be a big piece if he's motivated.
But are they going to get him motivated? Ayton for
more than just a ten game stretch.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Might get a skinny Luca. He's seen the pitchers of
him working out.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
I've seen it. Ai is a crazy thing.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Oh, David Mass Tim Katson for Petros and Money on
this Tuesday afternoon coming up in three thirty, we got
Dodgers on deck before that, though, you're quick catch at
the top of the hour, What's happened in the world
of sports? But up next the only head coach to
win a national championship other than John Wooden at UCLA,
not Ben holland Jim Herrick next year On ALFI seventy
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Speaker 3 (31:57):
Tim, I am really we have this opportunity to bring
on a man that had a great coaching career from
Pepperdine to UCLA, to Rhode Island to Georgia, but here
in Los Angeles. He's a bruin two hundred and fifty
four career wins at Pauly Pavilion as the UCLA men's
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head basketball coach. Only UCLA basketball coach men's basketball coach
to win a national championship since the great John Wooden,
and I see him a lot at Dodger Stadium. He's
a big time Dodger fan, and it is our pleasure
to bring on the great Jim Herritt coach. Thanks a
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lot for taking the time out and great to hear
your voice.
Speaker 7 (32:43):
David. It's my pleasure nice to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Hey, coach, I know you're a big Dodger fan. You
just told me that you made a phone call to
the skipper this morning.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
Well, I got a call and a talk to Day
for just a minute, and I was killing I told
him before last year, I said, Hey, they've never listened
to the noise. I've been listening to you all day,
most of the day. And oh, I hear's noise out there,
noise And I got a PhD and dads and noise.
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So you can't let the noise affect you in any way.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
You know about expectations in that respect, you had the
highest of expectations at UCLA. You broke through and won
the championship in ninety five. How do you keep your
players focused and keep that noise out with the expectations
so high.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Well, you know, David, it's very I home people to know.
It's very, very, very difficult to go back to back
and some it seems like things happened, players get hurt,
and that's exactly what we're going through now. And the
only saving grace is this is before the All Star
Game and maybe just maybe we can get back on
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track after the All Star Game. But you know it,
and the thing that Dave told me today him, it's
such a grind, it's such a grind and it is,
and to stay focused all this time, it's very, very difficult.
These guys are professional athletes. They've got to get themselves
ready to play because that's their job to do that.
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And we just hope everything works out well. And if
we're now, if we're injury free, we got a great, great,
great baseball team. But a lot of factors, David, A
lot of factors.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
How back do you how far back do you go?
Coach with the Dodgers, and you're really interest with the.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
Blue Well, I I was a baseball coach at Morningside
High School and in the sixties, and Dodgers used to
give all the baseball coaches in southern California passed two
people in the third deck behind home plate Monday through Thursday,
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and I rarely missed the kofax start. Yeah, I go
back a long, long way. Uh I. In fact, David,
I'm gonna tell you, I went to the coliseum and
I know the moonshot and all of it. Yeah, and
the short short porch and I was in I was
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in the coliseum watching them, So, uh, I go back
a long way with him. And then I got to
know Tommy really well and and I left high school,
went to Utah State for four years, and I came
back the year Tommy became the manager, and we ran
into each other, and I just became a great, great
uh Dodger fan with Saint Russell, Lopes and Garby in
(35:48):
the infield and and uh and that bunch of guys,
and that's that's just uh. In fact, when I was
a young kid, my mother was born in Pittsburgh, and
I went to Pittsburgh and I went the game by myself.
You could do that, you know, they're about twelve years old.
And I watched Jackie Roberson and Campanell and Peewey Reevee
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and Hodges and small down.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Was that a crosley Field coach?
Speaker 7 (36:14):
Crosley Field and Cincinnati. No, in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Pittsburgh was the What was the field? It was Crosley
Field in Pittsburgh, right.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
Yes, No, Crosby Field was in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Where was it in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 7 (36:27):
Pittsfield? I think?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Okay, Hey, coach, speaking of all that, do you remember
after you won the ninety five National Championship, you and
your players were invited to Dodger Stadium to be part
of the pregame ceremonies. What was that like for you
after everything you just shared with us, to be on
the field, to be celebrated as a national championship team
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at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 7 (36:53):
Well, and add to that, I threw out the first
pitch and through a bullet. Tommy was so good, and
we went down there and all the players were great.
It was a wonderful, wonderful evening a Dodgers hosted us.
It was magnificent thing. We really really enjoyed that. I
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got a lot of pictures with Kaz and things. So
it was very, very very nice.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Legendary head coach Jim Herrick with us here on a
five seven y LA Sports. You're a Dodger historian as well,
it seems, going back to the days of the old Dodgers, Jim.
When you watch Clayton Kershaw what he did a week ago,
three thousand strikeouts, only twenty pitchers in the history of
the game of baseball have done it, and we may
never see it again in the history of baseball the
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way the game's played now. When you saw him with
the three thousand strikeouts last week, what did that mean
you for a fan like.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
You, Well, it's funny I kind of watch him all
the way through when he started. I think from like, O, wait,
and all the way now and he's just been he's
just been rock solid. And what a great Dodger, what
a great attribute to Los Angeles. He's met so much,
his leadership, his humanitarianism, his wife and family. I thought
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that was just a spectacular eating and he got it
on the last strike walking off the field on the
hundred pitch of that's just sixteen. They're just it was
almost seem like it was perfect. And then they came
off with the walk off and won the game, so
it ended up wise. I was really happy for Clayton.
I hope he pitches a couple more years.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Jim Herrick is our guest, the last UCLA had basketball
coach to win a national championship and coach, you know,
we can't have you on without talking about your days
coaching UCLA. And Don McClain comes in here and fills
in often. What was it like coaching him, because he's
a much different guy in some ways than he was
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when you recruited him out of Seami Valley.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
Well, he's the all time leading score in the history
of UCLA, in the history of the Pac twelve. Albeit
he went four years and Kareem went three, but yeah,
what a great what a great player he was for us.
I mean, he was just absolutely spectacor. In his fifth
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game at UCLA he got forty five. So he was
just a stalwart. He he just from the day one,
he was really good. Now, Don is Don's got a strong,
strong opinion guy, and he's very very you know, he'll
tell me what what he thinks of me, and what's
going on while you're doing that, and why do you
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do that? But I kind of like that. You know.
We went over to Arizona and they won seventy two
straight games, and we're getting that ready to go, right
on the floor after the huddle, and he just kind
of smacks me in the chance and says, get me
the ball because I said, okay, he got thirty seven, coach,
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And when someone wants the ball, they better do something
with it more he did. He got thirty seven. We
upset him and beat him over there, and and he
was a great, great Brewer, great brewer.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Jim, do you still enjoy watching college basketball the way
it is now? And certainly NIL and the transfer portal
have changed the complete landscape of college athletics, good or bad,
however you want to look at it. But do you
still enjoying the game the way it's played now?
Speaker 7 (40:28):
Well, they all better be careful because greed kills everything.
And that's whether that's what we're into right now, greed
of everybody. But yeah, I enjoy basketball. The advant thing is,
you know, you don't know the players and who they
play for and where they play. I gotta wait till
the seasons start to see where everybody landed, right, and
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there's just no there's no you know, you go to
public pavilion and the fans really don't know the players.
If they only get to have an association with them,
that that that's wrong because in our day, you know,
they were just uh they were, they were they became
really good, good people with our players, and they knew
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the players and they cheered for the players. And now
they go in there one year and they're gone or something,
and new guys come in and it's it's absolutely lucas,
I'm okay something. They got their hands full with this stuff.
I don't know any answers of of uh of n
I l or or the payoffs to players, but they
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got their hands full because it's it's a mess. It
is an absolute mess.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Jim Herrick, before we let you go, I've asked a
lot of Dodger fans this question, and since you are
a huge Dodger fan, I want to know where head
coach Jim Herrick was when Freddie Freeman hit his walk
off Grand Slam in the World Series last year.
Speaker 7 (42:00):
Was about the fifth row behind the first base, dugout, kidd.
It was one fortunate deal that my wife Allison and
I got to go to that game and see that
young man who fu the bat right at me. Really awesome?
What what? What? What a highlight of your of all
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time Dodger stuff with Gibson and him, and I mean
that was a magical, magical, magical moment for Freddie Freeman. Okay,
so happy for that guy.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Where were you and Gibson? It is home run? Were
you were at the game or where you were somewhere else?
Were you coaching at that time?
Speaker 7 (42:38):
I've been recruiting and I came home. I was really tired.
I was sitting in my chair watching and I said Tommy, Tommy,
come on, Tommy, and and I said, oh, there's nowhere
I was in my chair watching it was good. I
sat my day by when the Dodgers playing, I have
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to tape it. I tape it. But getting ready to
watch you guys tonight.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, they'll get you a win tonight. Coach Eric man
special stuff from a special man. I love hearing your stories.
And we could be with you all day. We're gonna
do this again, Coach Eric, and I can't wait to
see you. We got dinner plans after the season is over,
so we're gonna make that happen.
Speaker 7 (43:20):
All right, I'll be there. I'm gonna be right behind
a third base on the afternoon game on the in August,
and I'll be there again in September. I had a
couple of seats right there behind the third base. O
all yell last year.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
I love it. That's all the best. That's always the
best part of my day. When I hear this voice
that I recognize and it turned. I turn around and
there he is. Jim Herrick.
Speaker 7 (43:42):
No, you know, Dave, Dave and kaya Sedney and Edoben
and George ind and my son Glynn Harry played ninety
five together and they really was in the dorm with
Dave was in the dorm with my and I got
to know him a little bit, and so we've been great, great,
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great friends for a long long time. They've been great.
Talking to you, buddy. Thank you very much for calling me.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Hey, we love you, Coach Eric. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 7 (44:12):
Hi, buddy, thank you very much. Fine.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
There he goes the nineteen ninety five National Championship head
coach Jim Eric at UCLA. See, I told you he
was a big fan. He knows his stuff.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
Man, does he know his Dodger history. And to be
at the game last October, to go to those games
when he was coaching at Morningside High School amazing.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
This guy has a huge connection to the Dodgers. And
that's what people don't understand that are not from La La.
The Dodgers are part of this city. It's not just
another sports team. They are ingrained in the fabric of
this city. Guys from Jim Herrick to Tim Kats loves
the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
Coming up at the bottom of the hour, speaking of
the Dodgers, we got Dodgers on deck. First pitch four forty.
When we come back, Dave, one more second to go.
We'll get to the quick hits, What's happening in the
world of sports, David Veassi, Tim Kates and for Petro
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David tim In for Petro some Money until three thirty
and Dodgers pregame Dodgers in Milwaukee. Dave Keeping his distance
from American Family Field in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Since what happened a couple years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Twenty twenty two, it was all a blur. Here I
am thanks to doctor Shin putting my wrist back together.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
He still have a scar, don't you.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Oh yeah, that's the scar where you put a plate
in my right wrist.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Oh look at that.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, see it.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Three.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
You've never seen that. I've never seen that before. Huh.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
I've seen you make that fist. Yeah, there's a T
shirt made out of it right sold out on road.
Awaar by the way, very nice. I'll never forget that night, David,
when you got hurt that day, I should say, and
we're like, man, is David gonna be okay? You're on
TV that night. Next thing you know, text message, good
to go working again. You're back working radio and TV.
(01:56):
Back from the hospital.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I had responsibilities. I had responsibility these to you, to
sports ned La and uh, you know, my wife was
in Milwaukee when that all went down because my mother
in law is from Milwaukee and my wife's grandmother had
just passed away, so she was in Milwaukee for the
(02:19):
funeral with my kids. And I go down the slide
break my ribs and wrist, and yeah, it did not
go over well at all. It did not. I was
on the rollaway bed that night, My wife and kids
were sleeping in the hotel bed, and yeah, that wasn't
that was the worst part of the whole situation.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Do you still have like PTSD thinking about it, and
that's maybe why you didn't want to go.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Back to Milwaukee. No, that's not it at all. That's
not it at all. In fact, the reason why I'm
staying back is getting a head start on the All
Star break coming up on Saturday. Yeah, all Star breaks
coming up. Yeah, are kind of coasting into that all
all right, right, No, stumbling in it with injuries is
what they are doing. They don't have senior itis. They
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don't have spring break on my mind. We went through
the lineup today, I mean, this is not a best
record in the National League type of lineup. Otani Betts, Freeman,
pahz is your cleanup hitter and right field Confortos and
left Kim's at second. No Tommy Edman in the lineup
for a third straight day. No Oskar Hernandez in the
(03:28):
lineup for a third straight day. Dalton rushing catching outman
and center Rojas at third, And this is my point.
Just put Taoscar Hernandez on the il. Give him and
he's missed three days, why not just let him miss
the rest of the first half, get three or four
days of the break, come back strong when the Dodgers
(03:51):
see who else the brewers at Dodger Stadium after the break.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Now that he's got three thousand strikeouts, and this is
something that somebody asked me yesterday, David, and I want
to bring it up with you. It will get into
Lakers and Clippers talk here in a second. Jovon Boujas
had to join us at the bottom of the hour.
Now that he's gotten three thousand strikeouts, you know Clayton
Kershaw very well, he's still hungry, right, He's still hungry
to go and win a championship this year because there's
some thought that, well he got his three thousand strikeouts,
(04:16):
this could be his last year going to the All
Star Game. Now this is it. This is the final
Swong song. He got to what he wanted. He got
the championships, the cy Youngs. He can check this box
three thousand. That's good.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
He came back because I believe he would have had
a lot of fomo if the Dodgers won the World Series.
He saw how good this team is and understood they
had the best chance of any team in the last
twenty five years to repeat his champions in Major League Baseball.
That's the reason why he came back. It wasn't for
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three thousand strikeouts. It was, in my opinion, a strong
sense of fomo if he wasn't around the team this year.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Speaking of not being around the team, Joe Kelly not
around the team, But Joe Kelly will be out there
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three to three thirty that he's heading out to his
Bobblehead night out at Loan Mark Field for the Rancho
(05:16):
Cucamonga Quakes baseball game. We got tickets to the Quakes,
We got Dodgers tickets. We got a fifty five inch
TV from Westinghouse to give away at two Nights State
at MGM Resorts in Las Vegas to get away, but
we transitioned to a little NBA David today in Elson Gundo.
In about an hour from now, DeAndre Eighton will be
introduced to the media. He is now a Laker after
a buyout in Portland. The all the moves that the
(05:40):
Lakers could have made this offseason. I didn't see DeAndre
eight and on my Bengo car. But now that he's
a Laker, I mean, he's twenty six, still got a
little gas in the tank. You'd like the hope fourteen
to ten he averaged a year ago. They needed a
rim protector, a guy who can actually be there around
the rim in the playoffs, where they didn't have against
Minnesota in that series is show. I mean you talk
(06:01):
about a guy who fell into their love. DeAndre Ayden
could be a perfect fit for.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
This Lakers team.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Rob Polinka might not be the best GM out there,
but he certainly is very lucky. Luca fell into his
lap and here he is. DeAndre Ayton. Not a bad
consolation prize if you're the Lakers. But it does remind
me of guys like Kwame Brown. He's of that ilk
when you hear a guy that doesn't have a motor
(06:26):
needs to be motivated. His best year actually was the
year the Suns went to the Finals and Chris Paul
was still Chris Paul. It was Chris Paul, who, by
the way, is a very edgy player. I know it
comes across in those commercials as a very happy, go lucky,
sweet type of guy. I've covered Chris Paul when he
was with the Lakers. He is the complete opposite. He's
(06:49):
more on the spectrum Michael Jordan than he is of
a nice guy. As far as being your teammate, he
is going to be all over you. And my understanding
is when Ayton was with the Suns, Chris Paul was
all over him and got the best out of him
that year. Who's gonna be that guy for the Lakers?
Who is Lebron James really gonna motivate DeAndre wo Is
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he really gonna be that guy? I don't think so.
He's never really been in his career that motivator. Yeah,
we're talking about Lebron needing to motivate Luca. Is Luca
gonna be that guy for DeAndre Ayton? I don't think so.
Is JJ Reddick gonna be that guy?
Speaker 7 (07:28):
So?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I always question when you hear a player that's as
talented as DeAndre Ayton being available a this way, be
having to question whether or not he can stay motivated.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
I mean, one motivation might be him and Luca same
draft twenty eighteen. They share the same agent, both looking
for a championship. Maybe they motivate themselves, who knows. But
you're right, there's no Chris Paul. There's no vocal leader
on this team. That's sort of been the issue with
Lebron and the Lakers the last few years. It's sort
(08:02):
of been Lebron and Anthony Davis and everybody else on
the team. And now it's Lebron and the rest of
the team with Luca now being the new face.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Is this still a thing where Chris Paul might join
the Lakers? Because if Chris Paul's on the Lakers as
a bench player, he'll command that type of respect and
certainly push DeAndre Ayton. So you know, if that's the case,
maybe that's Paul's role at this stage of his career.
But how many old guys are you gonna bring? Now?
There's rumors that the Utah Jazz are going to buy
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out Kevin Love, and Kevin Love may be signed by
the Lakers for a cheap price. You know, Kevin Love
and Lebron won a championship together in Cleveland, but both
players are well past their prime. It would be a
great full circle moment for Kevin Love because his father,
who passed away this year, Stan Love, played for the
Lakers in the mid seventies. So I would love to
(08:54):
see Kevin Love come back to La finish his career
with the Lakers. But you can't have Kevin Love and
Chris Paul and Lebron James on the same team.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
We love Kevin Love, he's a UCLA guy, but I
don't see the five points a game that they necessarily
need from him off the bench. I mean, he didn't
play a lot in Miami last year.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
He can't move. All he could do was spot up
and shoot threes.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Can you rebound anymore?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I mean, he's fine if you want to put him
at the end of the bench like Miami did. But
when you have Kevin Love and you have Lebron James,
and you have Chris Paul, isn't that too many old
guys on the same team.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
That points to me being this is the year they're
going all in with these old guys in Luca. And
if it doesn't work this year, if they bring it
to Chris Paul to go with the Lebron James Arono,
next year cut bait. Lebron's a free agent, he leaves
and now is Luca's team and you got a ton
of cap space.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, I think the Lakers are counting down the days,
Like if you have alimony support. I knew a colleague
that was paying their expouse money and they had a
timer on their phone on the day that they're alimone
and he would expire. I wonder if the Lakers are
doing that with Lebron James. And look, I'm a big
Lebron James guy. I'm not a guy like everybody else
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that wants to shove him out the door. He's a
really he is the best player of this generation, one
of the top five players in NBA history. So I'm
not as eager as other people to get rid of Lebron,
But you know, I just don't. You got to build
around him in a better way and not let him
dictate who's coming in. Because Chris Paul was in his wedding,
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they were in each other's weddings. So all of a sudden,
you're bringing in Kevin Love and Chris Paul. That has
Lebron James written all over it. And speaking of Kevin Love,
the reason why he's now a Jazz and not a
Cavalier is because the Jazz, the Heat and the Clippers
made a trade yesterday that sent a very popular player
(10:51):
with the Clippers, Norman Powell, to Miami for John Collins,
who averaged nineteen points last year with Utah to the Clippers.
Can John Collins play defense the way Norman Powell can play? Canny?
Norman Powell is maybe the most underappreciated player in the NBA.
I love Norman Powell. Yeah, he's He's a guy that
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can fit in anywhere and anytime Miami pat Riley Eric
Spolstra wants a player, it makes me suspicious. I found
the Clippers. I don't trade Norman Powell.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Well, I think for both teams, they realized two expiring
contracts after this year, both players probably not coming back
to the respective teams. It's probably a better fit to
have John Collins on this Clippers team.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
But with that, why is that? Because he can score.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Well, he's a different option than a Norman Powell. You're
gonna lose the defense, certainly, certainly, But who plays defense
in the NBA now apparently nobody?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, uh is John Collins. I don't know much about him.
Is he that good?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
He's a good player. But to me, it's it's a
switch John Collins Norman Powell. Point wise, you're basically just
it's a wash from one guy going to the other team.
You're losing defen with Norman Powell. With this all being said, David,
today's a big day. We alluded to it earlier. It's
July eighth, twenty twenty five, fifteen years ago. Today was
the decision. Now you look at the NBA and where
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it's at now, it's a player driven league. It's a
player empowerment era because of Lebron, the Big Three in
Miami leading to the Brooklyn Nets trying to get a
big three to the Lakers. Remember tried to Big three
at one point, bringing in Steve Nash and crew. That
didn't work out. They have tried to copy everything Lebron
has done. By the Big three and then the one
(12:33):
plus one deals in Cleveland and with the Lakers. Oh,
what are you going to do it help surround my team,
who's going to be coaching my team. He empowered himself
and helped take over organization.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
But the teams and the organizations allowed him to do
solutely because he's Lebron. But they've allowed other players around
the NBA kad to a lesser extent to do it
as well, like a Kevin Durant of Paul George, a
Kawhi Leonard few years ago in free agency. Well, I'll
come to the Clippers, but you got to bring another
superstar with me to me get Paul George to me.
(13:07):
Kawhi Leonard and what he did to the Clippers is
more scandalous than what Lebron James has done as far
as trying to leverage his power with the Lakers. Do
people realize that it was Kawhi Leonard that wanted Paul
George and told the Clippers you better get me Paul
George or I'm not signing with you. They were trying
(13:29):
to do the Lebron James thing, like you said, and
in turn traded this year's NBA Finals MVP Shay Gilgris Alexander,
along with multiple first round picks to the Oklahoma City
Thunder and in turn have helped Sam Presty build this
dynasty in Oklahoma City. This could have been the Clippers.
(13:53):
And you have Kawhi Leonard, who has barely played a
full season in three years. You can thank him for
the Clippers' future being mortgaged. You know, it's not always
what's right in front of you. You got to think
about what you had. And my understanding is Jerry West
did not want to make that trade, but was in
(14:15):
favor of trying to find a way to bring in
Kawhi and Paul George at the time. But I mean,
how do you trade Shay Gilgris, Alexander and all those
picks to appease at that point in time a guy
that was not healthy and doesn't play and has a
reputation for really coasting and is the poster child for
(14:37):
load management in Kawhi Leonard. The Clippers to me get
and as everything in LA, the Lakers always are at
the forefront. But to me, the Clippers are the ones
that should be kicking themselves every day for that trade
and for being held hostage by Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
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Bouja I'm really athletic. Now you can check him out
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announcements as far as where he'll be this NBA season,
but he'll help us get into this Lakers situation. DeAndre
Ayton be introduced to the Lakers media. Coming up here
shortly in El Segunda. We'll hear from Jim Herrick coming
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Davin joining us now, one of the best NBA insiders,
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and he joins us now. On a busy day for
the Lakers, you'll want introducing DeAndre Ayton in Elson Gundo today.
We'll start right there DeAndre Ayton. Nice move for the Lakers,
nice pickup exactly kind of what they needed.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Right.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Yeah, I think it's a great move for the Lakers,
especially on in eight point one million dollar contract next season.
I think if it's DeAndre and on a thirty five
point six million dollar contract, which was the contract he
was bought out by Portland from, that's one story that
there's a certain expectation with that. But for eight point
one million dollars, you are not going to find a
guy who averages fifteen to ten for his career and
(17:34):
is a mid to high fifties field goal percentage guy.
So I think if you look at the things that
the Lakers needed with their starting center going into next season,
he checks basically all the boxes. He's an elite lob threat.
It can roll finisher, he can post up, is a
good offensive rebounder and defensive rebounder, and I think is
a solid rim protector, can some mobility defensively. So I
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think he checks a lot of the boxes of what
the Lakers need. And again on that value contract of
almost half of the non taxpayer mid level exception, I
think it's a steal for the Lakers. So I don't
think it was Plan A for them. I think Plan A,
my understanding, was retaining Dorian and Finny Smith and coming
to some sort of agreement with him, but once that
fell through, they pivoted to Plan B. A. I think
(18:19):
their Plan B is arguably even better landing Dorian, I mean,
excuse me, landing DeAndre Ayton and Jaco Arabia Jovan.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Everything you said is true about Ayton when he's motivated
to play. Is that a question on how you're going
to keep this guy motivated all season long? And who's
going to be that guy.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how that happened,
you know, just how they kind of navigate that. There
have been some concerns or issues in the past with
his motor and motivation, but from what I've been told,
he has a really good relationship with Luka Doncic, and
both top three picks in the twenty eighteen draft, both
share the same agent, so they've developed a friendship over
(19:01):
the years, their families have met each other, and Luca
was a driving force in eight and coming to the Lakers.
So I think that relationship you'll see DeAndre really buy
into the role that the Lakers want from him. Also,
Scott Brooks, who's an assistant on the Lakers staff, was
an assistant with Portland for a year while DeAndre was
(19:23):
there and they developed a strong rapport. So I think
those two guys, like those two relationships will be key.
But also DeAndre is kind of at a crossroads here
where if you know, this situation doesn't work out with
the Lakers, he could be looking at, you know, not
the type of long term money that he would want.
Like ideally, I think for him, he has a really
(19:45):
good year with the Lakers, They're very successful, he is
thriving as their starting center, and then he opts out
next summer and signs a long term, multi year, you know,
double digit million contract with either the Lakers or another team.
So I think he's got a lot writing on this season.
The Lakers have a lot riding on this season and
need a lot from him. So I think there's a
(20:07):
kind of a mutual desperation and understanding of what's at
stake on both sides. But I think Luca and Scott
Brooks are two key figures here who will help, I think,
get the best out of DeAndre.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Aiden Jovan Booja is our guest here on the Petros
and Money Show on a five seventy LA Sports Jovan.
How does Lebron James fit into all this? That's hard
to question considering he's one of the best players ever,
But how does he fit with the Lakers and does
he still fit?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I think he still fits, you know.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
I think you look at the close to last season,
and I mean, this was a group that won fifty
games with the number three seed. They had a bunch
of statement wins to close last season, wins against Denver
and New York and Boston and Golden State and the
Clippers and the Timbwolves, and like, they basically beat every
good team with the exception of Cleveland they played twice
(21:00):
early in the season, So I think they showed a
certain ceiling and there was a reason why there's a
lot of optimism with this group going into the postseason.
Obviously flamed out in the first round in just five games,
But I think Lebron still fits. I think the bigger
question in my opinion is just like what does he
want and does he view this team as a championship
level team?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Is he satisfied with the.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Improvements that they've made and I'm sure they'll still be
active and in terms of clating up the back end
of the roster or potentially making a consolidation trade or something.
But if they don't make a big trade for another
like high level starting piece, is he okay with where
things are at, or does he want to potentially explore
a different avenue, you know, go to potentially a different
(21:42):
team via buyout or trade. I think buyout's really unlikely
because that would require Lebron either giving up a bunch
of money or the Lakers accepting his salary just sitting
on their cap sheet, which really wouldn't make sense. So
I think Lebron is going to take that pay cut.
It would have made far more sense to just opt
out and sign a smaller term deal with a different team.
(22:02):
So I really don't see a buy out happening. I
think the one thing that could potentially happen, though I
would put it very unlikely, would be a trade, but
that would have to require Lebron demanding out asking out.
He has no trade clause, so he can dictate which
team he goes to, and even if he likes the deal, right,
because I think the other thing is he's making fifty
three million dollars, So to match that salary, you've got
(22:23):
to send out a lot. So I think Lebron would
also have to not only like want a certain team
or a certain list of teams, but also like their
roster post trade. So there's a lot of moving parts,
a lot of factors that go into this. So havingk
Lebron is going to remain a Laker going into next season,
I think that is the far most likely outcome here.
But obviously he has not been thrilled with the roster
(22:45):
in general for the last few years, and he applies
pressure in different ways, and I think this latest those
statements were him kind of trying to do that in
his own way with him seeing the finish line of
only one to two more years left.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
He created this player in power era back in twenty
ten with the decision, which by the way, happened fifteen
years ago.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Today.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Does he still have that power Yovan?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
I think he does just in terms of because especially
with the no trade cause he's only one of two
players who have a real no trade cause. There's some
guys like Jackson Hayes actually just waived his no trade clause.
But with some guys, if you sign a one year
deal you've been off a team for multiple seasons, you
get an implicit veto right, which is basically a no
trade cause. But Lebron James and Bradley Beal, those are
(23:31):
the two guys in the leagues who have no trade caluses,
So there's a certain power that comes with that. I
think with the Lakers, obviously the dynamic has changed where
they are now focused more on Luca and building the
best team around Luca for the foreseeable future, and even
if that comes at the expense of this upcoming season,
and more so about the following season or a couple
(23:52):
of years from now, and like can they find that
next superstar to pair with Luca. So I think for
the first time in Lebron's career, he's not at the
center of the organization and like the most important person
or most important player in the organization. I think the
Lakers have made it clear they have shifted toward prioritizing Luca.
But Lebron is still Lebron. He's arguably the greatest of
(24:12):
all time, and he, to your point, like invented the
player empowerment movement. So I think he'll always have a
certain level of power and juice, but obviously the dynamic
has changed with the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
We talked about this a little bit earlier, jovonn the
fact that today is the anniversary of the decision that
he made that back on July eighth, twenty ten. Here
we are in twenty twenty five. How do you look
at the NBA now and how much he has changed
the NBA from superpower teams to contracts to the one
and plus ones that he was so notorious for doing
(24:45):
the last few years in Cleveland and with the Lakers
and the empowerment era of the players in the NBA.
Is the NBA better off now here fifteen years later
after Lebron sort of started this player empowerment era.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
It's a really good question.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
I I lean, yes, I understand there are a lot
of skeptics or a lot of critics with the way
that things have trended. But it's always been fascinating to
me that basically, in any other you know, form of work,
if you are a top I guess now it would
(25:19):
be like an AI developer or coder or whatever. Like
when you come out of school, you have your pick
of you know, you could go to Apple or Google,
or whatever company you want, and you have a say
in this. And obviously you know sports that there's a
reason there's a draft, and there's a reason why the
cbas are the way that they are. But I think
for far too long it was just kind of about
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you get drafted to a certain situation, and maybe you
get traded at like the midway point in your career,
or you've flamed out a bunch of times and you
haven't had the success that you've wanted, and you get
like one shot to go to another team, and like,
you know, you don't really have a say in how
your career goes. But I think with lebron On he
flipped that on its head and said, like, no, we're
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the most valuable commodity in this organization. Like these are
multi billion dollar organizations that are built on our backs,
and we're the ones, you know, that are driving the
ticket sales and the merchandise and just the TV deals
and all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
And yet we get, you know.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Kind of treated like just little cogs in this machine
that you know, we are the machine. So I think
in some ways he kind of flipped it on its head.
And I do think from a player perspective, it makes
a lot more sense for them to have a lot
more power, a lot more control over No, I don't
want to play for this team and I have a
short ten to fifteen career, or I guess, in Lebron's case,
(26:40):
a twenty five year career, where you know, I want
to dictate. I want to play for this team. I
want to play with these guys. I want to win
a championship. I want to go for it. So I think,
obviously not everyone has operated the way that Lebron operates,
but I do think overall has been more of a
net positive than a net negative for players and just
their freedom and their ability to dictate their very short
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pro athlete careers.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
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Speaker 3 (27:13):
All Right, we always want to know what's next. It's
great they got DeAndre Ayden. It's great Lebron James has
opted in. So what is next for the Lakers? Is
there another move to be made here? How do they
fill out this roster with an impact player?
Speaker 6 (27:27):
I think there should be. Now, will there be I
don't have clarity on that. I know the Lakers are
exploring a couple pats right now. I think a clear
need with this roster is perimter defense wing defense.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
If you look at it, it is.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Heavily concentrate, like the key players are heavily concentrated in
the front court, but primarily power forward types, guys like
Lebron Luca's a point guard offensively, but more of a
power forward defensively, Ruy Jake La Ravia, DeAndre Ayt, and
Jackson Hayes. So they got a lot of guys at
that four or five position, but not many guys who
can guard real threes and even some twos.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
So I think they need some sort of upgrade.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
It's probably gonna be tough to find that guy in
free agency, so it probably has to come in the
form of a trade.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
But I really think they need two guys.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
I think they need a starting level guy and another
key bench guy, but at least one of those positions,
if not both. But I've heard they are exploring the
wing market. It's a pretty tough wing market right now.
Asking prices are very high. There's also just limited supply.
Not many guys actually available to trade so that they
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have some limited resources in terms of their own assets.
They only have one first round pick to trade, one
attracted young player in Balton Connect, and then some expirings.
But like that doesn't really get you much in twenty
twenty five, so I think the other thing they're looking
at is a consolidation trade. So they got a non
guaranteed contract of shake Milton, can they flip him with
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a Gabe Vincent or with a Maxi Kliba, get off
some money, open up a couple of roster spots, and
then go sign someone with their five point one million
dollar bi annual exception or even just a that minimum
contract to bring the roster to fourteen. They like carrying
one empty roster spot going into the season, so I
wouldn't be surprised if they find some type of deal
where they could clear some salary and clear a couple
(29:19):
roster spots and then sign somebody. But right now, I mean,
it's looking like they're probably going to have close to
this roster. Again, maybe they're able to strike some sort
of trade where where they're able to sign someone, but
it is for now looking like this is close to
the likely roster that they'll enter the season with and
then have some flexibility with could they trade some of
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these expirings or the pick at some point during the season.
But again, these things are a lot of moving parts.
It's very fluid, so that could change by a few
hours from now.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Great insign from one of the best NBA reporters, Lakers
insider Yo Vambuja, joined us year on a five seventy
LA Sports on this Tuesday afternoon on appreciate the timing man,
thanks a.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Lot, appreciate you for having me.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
All right, the NBA in twenty twenty five. The roster's
always changing, David.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, and I'm excited for the Lakers to see what
they can do a full year with Luca. Let's see
what they can do to build around them. Man, Look,
DeAndre Ayton could be a big piece if he's motivated.
But are they going to get him motivated? Ayton for
more than just a ten game stretch.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Might get a skinny Luca. He's seen the pitchers of
him working out.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
I've seen it. Ai is a crazy thing.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
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him before last year, I said, Hey, they've never listened
to the noise. I've been listening to you all day,
most of the day. And oh, I hear's noise out there,
noise And I got a PhD and dads and noise.
(33:16):
So you can't let the noise affect you in any way.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
You know about expectations in that respect, you had the
highest of expectations at UCLA. You broke through and won
the championship in ninety five. How do you keep your
players focused and keep that noise out with the expectations
so high.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Well, you know, David, it's very I home people to know.
It's very, very, very difficult to go back to back
and some it seems like things happened, players get hurt,
and that's exactly what we're going through now. And the
only saving grace is this is before the All Star
Game and maybe just maybe we can get back on
(34:02):
track after the All Star Game. But you know it,
and the thing that Dave told me today him, it's
such a grind, it's such a grind and it is,
and to stay focused all this time, it's very, very difficult.
These guys are professional athletes. They've got to get themselves
ready to play because that's their job to do that.
(34:23):
And we just hope everything works out well. And if
we're now, if we're injury free, we got a great, great,
great baseball team. But a lot of factors, David, A
lot of factors.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
How back do you how far back do you go?
Coach with the Dodgers, and you're really interest with the.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
Blue Well, I I was a baseball coach at Morningside
High School and in the sixties, and Dodgers used to
give all the baseball coaches in southern California passed two
people in the third deck behind home plate Monday through Thursday,
(35:02):
and I rarely missed the kofax start. Yeah, I go
back a long, long way. Uh I. In fact, David,
I'm gonna tell you, I went to the coliseum and
I know the moonshot and all of it. Yeah, and
the short short porch and I was in I was
(35:25):
in the coliseum watching them, So, uh, I go back
a long way with him. And then I got to
know Tommy really well and and I left high school,
went to Utah State for four years, and I came
back the year Tommy became the manager, and we ran
into each other, and I just became a great, great
uh Dodger fan with Saint Russell, Lopes and Garby in
(35:48):
the infield and and uh and that bunch of guys,
and that's that's just uh. In fact, when I was
a young kid, my mother was born in Pittsburgh, and
I went to Pittsburgh and I went the game by myself.
You could do that, you know, they're about twelve years old.
And I watched Jackie Roberson and Campanell and Peewey Reevee
(36:09):
and Hodges and small down.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Was that a crosley Field coach?
Speaker 7 (36:14):
Crosley Field and Cincinnati. No, in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Pittsburgh was the What was the field? It was Crosley
Field in Pittsburgh, right.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
Yes, No, Crosby Field was in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Where was it in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 7 (36:27):
Pittsfield? I think?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Okay, Hey, coach, speaking of all that, do you remember
after you won the ninety five National Championship, you and
your players were invited to Dodger Stadium to be part
of the pregame ceremonies. What was that like for you
after everything you just shared with us, to be on
the field, to be celebrated as a national championship team
(36:51):
at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 7 (36:53):
Well, and add to that, I threw out the first
pitch and through a bullet. Tommy was so good, and
we went down there and all the players were great.
It was a wonderful, wonderful evening a Dodgers hosted us.
It was magnificent thing. We really really enjoyed that. I
(37:15):
got a lot of pictures with Kaz and things. So
it was very, very very nice.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Legendary head coach Jim Herrick with us here on a
five seven y LA Sports. You're a Dodger historian as well,
it seems, going back to the days of the old Dodgers, Jim.
When you watch Clayton Kershaw what he did a week ago,
three thousand strikeouts, only twenty pitchers in the history of
the game of baseball have done it, and we may
never see it again in the history of baseball the
(37:41):
way the game's played now. When you saw him with
the three thousand strikeouts last week, what did that mean
you for a fan like.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
You, Well, it's funny I kind of watch him all
the way through when he started. I think from like, O, wait,
and all the way now and he's just been he's
just been rock solid. And what a great Dodger, what
a great attribute to Los Angeles. He's met so much,
his leadership, his humanitarianism, his wife and family. I thought
(38:11):
that was just a spectacular eating and he got it
on the last strike walking off the field on the
hundred pitch of that's just sixteen. They're just it was
almost seem like it was perfect. And then they came
off with the walk off and won the game, so
it ended up wise. I was really happy for Clayton.
I hope he pitches a couple more years.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Jim Herrick is our guest, the last UCLA had basketball
coach to win a national championship and coach, you know,
we can't have you on without talking about your days
coaching UCLA. And Don McClain comes in here and fills
in often. What was it like coaching him, because he's
a much different guy in some ways than he was
(38:54):
when you recruited him out of Seami Valley.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
Well, he's the all time leading score in the history
of UCLA, in the history of the Pac twelve. Albeit
he went four years and Kareem went three, but yeah,
what a great what a great player he was for us.
I mean, he was just absolutely spectacor. In his fifth
(39:19):
game at UCLA he got forty five. So he was
just a stalwart. He he just from the day one,
he was really good. Now, Don is Don's got a strong,
strong opinion guy, and he's very very you know, he'll
tell me what what he thinks of me, and what's
going on while you're doing that, and why do you
(39:40):
do that? But I kind of like that. You know.
We went over to Arizona and they won seventy two
straight games, and we're getting that ready to go, right
on the floor after the huddle, and he just kind
of smacks me in the chance and says, get me
the ball because I said, okay, he got thirty seven, coach,
(40:00):
And when someone wants the ball, they better do something
with it more he did. He got thirty seven. We
upset him and beat him over there, and and he
was a great, great Brewer, great brewer.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Jim, do you still enjoy watching college basketball the way
it is now? And certainly NIL and the transfer portal
have changed the complete landscape of college athletics, good or bad,
however you want to look at it. But do you
still enjoying the game the way it's played now?
Speaker 7 (40:28):
Well, they all better be careful because greed kills everything.
And that's whether that's what we're into right now, greed
of everybody. But yeah, I enjoy basketball. The advant thing is,
you know, you don't know the players and who they
play for and where they play. I gotta wait till
the seasons start to see where everybody landed, right, and
(40:49):
there's just no there's no you know, you go to
public pavilion and the fans really don't know the players.
If they only get to have an association with them,
that that that's wrong because in our day, you know,
they were just uh they were, they were they became
really good, good people with our players, and they knew
(41:12):
the players and they cheered for the players. And now
they go in there one year and they're gone or something,
and new guys come in and it's it's absolutely lucas,
I'm okay something. They got their hands full with this stuff.
I don't know any answers of of uh of n
I l or or the payoffs to players, but they
(41:35):
got their hands full because it's it's a mess. It
is an absolute mess.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Jim Herrick, before we let you go, I've asked a
lot of Dodger fans this question, and since you are
a huge Dodger fan, I want to know where head
coach Jim Herrick was when Freddie Freeman hit his walk
off Grand Slam in the World Series last year.
Speaker 7 (42:00):
Was about the fifth row behind the first base, dugout, kidd.
It was one fortunate deal that my wife Allison and
I got to go to that game and see that
young man who fu the bat right at me. Really awesome?
What what? What? What a highlight of your of all
(42:21):
time Dodger stuff with Gibson and him, and I mean
that was a magical, magical, magical moment for Freddie Freeman. Okay,
so happy for that guy.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Where were you and Gibson? It is home run? Were
you were at the game or where you were somewhere else?
Were you coaching at that time?
Speaker 7 (42:38):
I've been recruiting and I came home. I was really tired.
I was sitting in my chair watching and I said Tommy, Tommy,
come on, Tommy, and and I said, oh, there's nowhere
I was in my chair watching it was good. I
sat my day by when the Dodgers playing, I have
(42:58):
to tape it. I tape it. But getting ready to
watch you guys tonight.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, they'll get you a win tonight. Coach Eric man
special stuff from a special man. I love hearing your stories.
And we could be with you all day. We're gonna
do this again, Coach Eric, and I can't wait to
see you. We got dinner plans after the season is over,
so we're gonna make that happen.
Speaker 7 (43:20):
All right, I'll be there. I'm gonna be right behind
a third base on the afternoon game on the in August,
and I'll be there again in September. I had a
couple of seats right there behind the third base. O
all yell last year.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
I love it. That's all the best. That's always the
best part of my day. When I hear this voice
that I recognize and it turned. I turn around and
there he is. Jim Herrick.
Speaker 7 (43:42):
No, you know, Dave, Dave and kaya Sedney and Edoben
and George ind and my son Glynn Harry played ninety
five together and they really was in the dorm with
Dave was in the dorm with my and I got
to know him a little bit, and so we've been great, great,
(44:02):
great friends for a long long time. They've been great.
Talking to you, buddy. Thank you very much for calling me.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Hey, we love you, Coach Eric. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 7 (44:12):
Hi, buddy, thank you very much. Fine.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
There he goes the nineteen ninety five National Championship head
coach Jim Eric at UCLA. See, I told you he
was a big fan. He knows his stuff.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
Man, does he know his Dodger history. And to be
at the game last October, to go to those games
when he was coaching at Morningside High School amazing.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
This guy has a huge connection to the Dodgers. And
that's what people don't understand that are not from La La.
The Dodgers are part of this city. It's not just
another sports team. They are ingrained in the fabric of
this city. Guys from Jim Herrick to Tim Kats loves
the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
Coming up at the bottom of the hour, speaking of
the Dodgers, we got Dodgers on deck. First pitch four forty.
When we come back, Dave, one more second to go.
We'll get to the quick hits, What's happening in the
world of sports, David Veassi, Tim Kates and for Petro
some money on a to Hermano.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Tuesday here on FI seventy l A Sports
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