September 24, 2025 • 41 mins
Former MLB closer Rob Dibble on the Dodgers bullpen struggles and the mental makeup you need to be a reliever in the Big Leagues. Top Story of the Day on the Dodgers. Dead and Alive Guy Birthday fo the Day.
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magic number P is now two. The Brewers have knocked
off the padres today, so a Dodger win tonight will
bring that down to one. Blake Snell on the mound,
Dodgers trying to shake off these back to back losses
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courtesy of Blake Trying and Tanner Scott and that bullpen.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well Matt joining us right now speaking of bullpens on
your Toyota Dealers Celebrity Hotline. Is Rob Debble, friend of
the show, a real and he's right now in Cincinnati
where they're honoring him tonight, where he played his five
years and was a World Series champ and the NLCSMVP
(01:51):
and two time All Star. Of course a media star
as well. The first time I met him was on
the best damn sports show period period. We've got a
long history and a lot of respect for him, and
Hunter Green and Skimes are pitching against each other tonight period.
He's there in Cincinnati and he's taking some time to
talk to us. We don't deserve it. What's cracking, Rob?
(02:12):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (02:13):
I'm doing great. I'm actually sitting behind the bullpen in
center field watching schemes right now, pumping in there about
one hundred and ten miles an hour, one hundred Greens
throwing about one hundred and five and I'm feeling really
old right now.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Guys, those are starters, dibbs. The Dodgers have no problems
with starters, you know, Tani last night as Fastball was
clocking in over one hundred and one miles an hour.
But man, this bullpen is an issue, and we needed
to bring you on to kind of share with us.
How quickly can they get this thing turned around? If
they can get this thing turned around.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Well, it's hard, Matt, because you're having to use the
bullpen for nine or twelve hours every night, even show. Hey,
I was looking at show Hayess numbers the other day.
What is it like five of his last six starts
or maybe five of his last seven starts. The Dodgers
lost because they got to come in and get the
final twelve out of the game. It's not easy, you know,
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those endings that up the warm ups at up and
your arm is killing you about this time of year
and you kind of want to or you have clinched
your playoffsplot spot clinched a point where you can rest
these guys a little bit and have some guys who
September call ups come up and have those guys go
out there and finish the season for you. And that's
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not happening, so you're still using your bullpen and meaningful games.
A lot of these teams are dragging God. I cover
the Yankees, Red Sox, and Mets every day on the
East Coast, and they're all dying, all their bullpens, all
their closers are dying. So pitch pitching is at a
premium right now. And if the Dodgers don't have guys
going seven innings, the bullpens the team, the part of
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the team that's got to finish those games. We're just
talking about this. Norm Charlton's here with me, Randy Myers
is here with me, and and you know, we were
just talking about this. Back in our day. You got
five guys in the bullpen. Thirty years later, now you've
got eight guys in the bullpen. So it's really it's
such a turnaround. I mean, you remember where the Dodgers
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was the first five man rotation. They went from four
to five. Now you almost have six guys in a
rotation because you're just too much. It's depending on guys
only going fifteen or eighteen outs. They've got to do
something turn it around.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Oh great stuff. A great perspective that we would not
have if we weren't disturbing Rob Dibble in the middle
of a baseball game with his teammates and having fun,
but we sure appreciate him joining us. We have to
say when it feels like everything that will go wrong
or could go wrong does when it comes to the
bullpen in the last few weeks, and I know it
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feels like that for a lot of different teams. Did
somebody find the confidence to turn it around? Or is
it a freak thing that happens like a bird crap's
on somebody or something and it turns it around, or
is there no parting it around?
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Listen, let's just take the Yankees. They traded for Devin Williams.
Devin Williams basically he crapped the beds early in the
year and lost his job. So you have to go
out there, you trade for Daval and you trade for Bednar.
Bednar's now your closer. So there's no magic to it
that tros. It's it's more about who's healthy, who's confident,
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who's going to come in and throw strikes. The problem is,
in my day, eight out of ten pitches were fastballs,
four scene two scene moving it in and out. Now
six seven pitches are breaking balls are change ups. These
these guys love to help the bottom of the order
with this off speed trap. It's it's hard. It's hard
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to reverse that mentality of attacking, attacking, attacking. So yes,
I know one hundred green or schemes. They love to
attack with their best fastballs, but they still love to
throw sixty percent breaking balls, fifty five percent breaking balls.
They still mentally don't trust their best stuff. Where I
always i'm if I'm in a jam and I got
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Let's just say we're just talking about the Giants lineup.
Back when I played, you had Will Clark, Brett Butler,
Kevin Mitchell, Matt Williams. You get guys like that in
the lineup, you had to attack them. You could not
hang a breaking ball or a changeup, or you get
burned for three run home run. So these guys the
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pitch in reverse. So it's very difficult for me to
look at how do you fix that when these guys
don't want to fix themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
So, Dibbs, what does it tell you when Tanner Scott
goes out there last night throws twenty pitches in eighteen
of them are sliders, and that guy can cook at
ninety eight on his fastball, What is like, is there
something to take away from that?
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Well?
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Ill coached seventeen and eighteen. You travel money, and these
guys one time if they're ninety five or ninety and
these guys that I'm coaching or throwing in the load
of mid eighties, somebody turns that eighty five around, they
don't want to throw it again. They're petrified. Oh my god,
that guy just told my fastball. And it's like one guy, dude,
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you got eight more guys. Why are you worried about
one fastball that somebody lit up? You got to you
gotta keep pounding, pounding, pounding, and and don't show any respect.
That's that was the different mentality. When I was eight,
I didn't think you could hit me. When I was twelve,
I didn't think you could hit me. So when I
got to the major leagues, I still didn't. You know,
somebody asked a question today of us, Uh, you know
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who's the toughest out? A. They're all tough. B. I
never thought anybody could hit me. So when I'm watching
these guys today, I watched Lucas shi Alito last night
against Toronto. That dude to ninety eight pitches and went
four innings, actually four and a third. I apologize he
got ninety eight pitches. But there it's I don't want
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to say they're scared. It's when they give up a
hit on their best pitch. They go to two and
three And I was always taught don't get beat with
your second or third best pitch. These guys go to
those pitches and really get burned and they're pulled out
of the game.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
These guys are whitnies.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
We're talking around dublasses, but I don't want to say
that on the air.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
We can.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
We're worried that the Dodgers are fat cats, DIBs. Are
they fat cats?
Speaker 6 (08:19):
No? No, because guys don't think like that. Here's the thing.
They have very low self esteem. They their confidence gets
shredded or listen, you're it's a losing situation. It's the
one sport where it's built on failure. And you've got
seven guys I think hitting three hundred in all of
baseball seven you got like fifteen teams are hitting below
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to forty five as a team. So the you know,
showing up for work every day knowing I could go
over four, I could fail again. I mean I think
that I was watching the game with the Yankees and
Stanton had like two hits in forty eight at bats
or some crap. Just think of that guy going home.
He's miserable. He's miserable with the wife or girlfriend. He
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comes back, he's miserable at the ballpark. So, uh, you
know that that's why the sport has so many guys
that get down on themselves. Just look at them. They're
not happy. We were always happy, we were always going out.
Here's another thing, guys, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you
a real secret. Yeah, they're more worried about their brand
and how people view them on Instagram than going out
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and having a beard. They can't do that. Like if
they had cameras when I played, my career would have
lasted like two minutes. So you know, the thing is
you you can't sneak around. You can't go out and
play and release a lot of anks because you know
someone's gonna catch you. So these guys they go home
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and they dwell on negative negative, negative, negative, and it's
hard to it's hard to growl out of that hole.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I want to let you get back to your your
team and the game. But real quick, dibbs, is it
feels like you know, it's crazy to say this with
a four hundred million dollar pay and Snell and Otani,
But it does feel like the Phillies are maybe a
bit of kryptonite for this Dodger team. Does it? Does
it feel like that or do you still feel like
when you look at it, the Dodgers are the class
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of the NL.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
No, the Dodgers are the class of the NL. Don't
don't sleep on the Brewers. They have much better pitching
than people think. But the Phillies are a bunch of
blue collar dudes. They they want to fight. They are
going to battle you too, the nail. So you've got
you've got very different teams. Padres, Padres. I think they're
like a sushi eating team. Those those are some guys
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that you know they're they're like, oh, hey man, look
at us. We won a playoff spot Who cared dude
win win a championship? Would you?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
So?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
No, I think the Dodgers are going to be fine.
And you know, I don't like the Dodgers. For me
to say that I love them. I love the Freddie Freemans,
the rookie Betts Is, Dave Roberts couldn't be a nicer guy. Hey,
sometimes you gotta go out there maybe fight somebody. So
that's the problem. They don't go to bars and get
in fights anymore.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, well don't do that tonight though, Dibbs. You know
they got cameras.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
We love you man, Thanks.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
For joining us years old. I'm the only day I'm
fighting is my pillow.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Quite all of us. What a stud junior night in Cincinnati. Again,
It's God blessed yourpreciate you guys. Take care. What a wow.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Right from the ballpark, the Great American Ballpark, Red she's
got Skeens Green hanging out with Norm Charlton and he's
chatting with us.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Wow, what a guy. Just speaks to how cool we are.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I mean, come on, just want to talk to us
about baseball?
Speaker 8 (11:39):
Hunter Green working on a no no right now?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Isn't it like the second inning case the third?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
But hey, that only guy? The other guy only went
three and a third. Yeah all right, well we'll be
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Speaker 2 (11:56):
He might be alright with it, but that doesn't mean
we have to be alright with it. That's all I'm saying.
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Mass story of Oh so, this is gonna be talking
out of two sides of my mouth. Which I do regularly. Paralysis.
I've never heard such paralysis by analysis. That's where we start.
Just leave the guy out there, man, and I'm gonna
say that out of one side of my mouth, and
then I'm going to say something else out of the
other in a minute, at the first sign of trouble
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or when you get to the third time through the line, like,
enough of that, bs it, it's it's not working. I
get that. Show he had to come out of the
game ninety one pitches, the most they've let him throw
this season, six innings the most they've let him throw
this season at two Tommy John's I get it. His
next start will be in the postseason. But Emmachian did
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not have to come out of the game, And yesterday
David Vasse joined us and suggested it was probably out
of precaution for the postseason. Why put him out there
for the eighth inning and eighty four pitches when he
could get to one hundred and there's something much bigger.
I don't know. I don't know why put him out
there for the eighth because what the hell are we doing?
That's why? Because Okay, he gets to one hundred pitches,
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it's not one hundred and eighty or something. It's let
him stay out there. You know what his last inning
was in that in that loss that should have been
a win, that he allowed one hit in a three
to one line. It was a five pitch strikeout, a
one pitch weak ass groundout, and a two pitch weak
ass groundout. His fastball was at ninety six, his slider
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was unhittable, and the two changeups that he threw led
to the two groundouts. That means you're dominating. There is
no slippage. His arm is not tired, his body is
not fatigued. The seventh inning looked exactly like the sixth inning,
which looked like the fifth inning, which looked like the
first thing. The only ball in play was a week
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flyout on a change up in the six. That is
back to back innings of nothing. Leave him out there. Instead,
they go to Blake Trin and for what for a
freaking tire fire, for abject failure, for a guy who
has got seven losses and three blown saves in a
one zero game with a magic number of three? Like again,
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what are we doing last night? Like what?
Speaker 7 (15:53):
Like? How?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Why is this so hard?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
This isn't like you know. I mean, it's it's why
is it so hard? It's mid to late September now.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
To the playoffs stand in six days.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, and you're throwing up your hands asking the question
what are we doing? And I could tell your frustration
is real.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It is.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
And I don't know. I don't know what to I
don't know what to tell you, Matt. You know they've
they've paid a lot of money for those relievers.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
It's my fault.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, it is your fault.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And they run them out there, get lost and the
one game it's fault. It's like they have Christmas lights
strapped to their chest.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
You want you fix it? Don't show up to the ballpark,
just be like, well they got to do on the
way man, Rogan and Rodney come to work every day. No,
they didn't. Well you know what I mean? What you mean?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
What do you mean they do? They go on air
every day?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Do they?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Even though they are like the Dodger relievers.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Just happen.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
It sucks and it's going to end tonight and.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
SMS New Day Tomorrow is not a new day. Today
is the same day as yesterday, which was the same
day as the day before last night. It was Jack.
Last night it was Tanner Scott. The night before it
was Blake. It's the same day everyone.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
At least they're not destroying beautiful quality starts.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I mean, look, last night, Otani comes out. Jack Dryer
comes in. First pitch, soft line out, The short gives
up a single descenter, but it's a two strike count.
Miss with a fastball. Next hitter on a two zero count,
three straight swinging strikes, two outs. Next guy, eh, you
miss slider rocket double the center, one run scores whatever,
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He's fine, it's one run. It is four to one.
Tory Leavello brings in some dude named Lawlor. I don't
know if he's like, I don't I don't know if
he's related to Bingo or not. I don't know. But
they bring him in to pinch hit. So it's lefty
versus righty. And what does Dave do. He pulls them
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for a matchup. He pulls Dryer, and then I look
into it, I'm like, who is this Lawler guy? Oh,
he's hitting one sixty seven and he's twenty three years
old and he's hitting one six and he has faced
the Dodgers eight times and he has yet to have
a single hit in all eight a bats that he
has faced the Dodgers. On August thirty first, he went
zero for four with two strikeouts and two popouts. And
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oh what do you know? Jack Dryer faced this lawler
gentlemen on August twenty ninth. Three pitches, popfly. I gotta
go get Dryer. I can't possibly let him stay in there.
This thing could really get away from him. He's already
got two outs and they put a guy in the
in the on deck circle that's hitting one sixty seven.
I better go get Enriquez.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Are you saying that not only were the Dodger pitchers
pitching scared, but perhaps the manager was managing in such
a fashion.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Instead, they bring it in Riquez, who's not gonna inherit.
Love it Inheritor Runner in the last ten years of
my Ralph in here, it's a guy at second they
bring in a different pidgitter that it's a fire drill.
It's a bad deal. It's a bad deal for Dryer.
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Let him get out of it. He's not struggling. His
stuff was fine.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You give you a like they are a wild eyed
gambler at Marongo, chasing their money in the line at the.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Atm Yes, they are running up to the roulette table
with one hundred dollars bill saying money plays, and they're
throwing it down on number eighteen and Riquez could have
had a cleaninging in the eighth. Vesia pitches the ninth.
Tanner Scott is in sniffing the field in a one
run game which he has no business throwing in zero
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none like ever should have won the game. It's my fault,
it is. You're right, it's the same thing you said
a week ago. It's the worst year of my life.
We should have won that game. Shut him down. I've
said this before. Shut him down for the year. It
is over. There is nothing left to see. Don't put
Clayton Kershaw out in the bullpen. If all he's gonna
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do is go when the gate opens, and Tanner Scott's
running out and a one one day in the ninth
and he's like, there's no way first happen. It sucks
and it's gotta end tonight and tomorrow's a new day.
Tomorrow's a new day because you'll never pitch again the
rest of the year.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
But to the point on Dryer, he's got two competitive
at bats. He wins. You pull him, but Tanner freaking Scott.
Tanner Scott comes out in the ninth has nothing from jump.
You can already see, Oh yeah, this is a loss.
This is going to end horribly. After he hits the
first batter with zero control of any of his pitches.
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Next at bat walk four pitches. I hit the first
guy and walk the second guy. Yeah, but you had
to face one more Tanner and all he wanted to
do is lay down a bunt, and you're trying to
take his freaking Adams Apple off because you still can't
find the strike zone for a guy that wants to sacrifice, which, hey, toy,
tell your guy to pull the bat back. He's probably
gonna walk on four pitches or get drilled, and you're
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gonna have bases loaded, no outs, So don't even bother
with the sacrifice. But listen with Tanner Scott taking the
ball in the ninth, in and then and then pee,
he leaves him in there. Yes, he pulls Jack Dryer,
Yet he leaves Tanner Scott after three completely non competitive
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at bats. You know what, didn't have the feeling for Jack,
but I got the feeling here that Tanner's gonna be
able to get out of this one with one out
and guys on second and third, even though he has
yet to throw a strike. Well, I hit the first
guy and walk the side and guy.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
That puts yourself in a pretty tough spot to get
out of, and we didn't. You didn't get out of it.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
You know what I would have done. If I were
Dave Roberts, I would have held up four fingers for
the next three hitters and just said, f it, man,
let's just lose this way so I don't have to
watch Tanner Scott throw another ball.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I am.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
If you were Dave Roberts, you would not have done it.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I would have intentionally walked you next three hitters. You
lose the game, and let's go home so I don't
have to listen to this press conference.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
You would lose your team's for confidence and you would
be fired if you were to do that.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
It's better than watching him melt down for the tenth
time ten times.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
You should have heard it on the Arizona side, You
know that really annoying. What's his name Berthume? That guy
or whatever, the guy that does the Diamondbacks play by
play right, ooh, he was fired up.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I can imagine. I bet he was fired up the
second Tanner Scott came out of the bullpen. He was
probably pull show up Roger Clyde and the peacemakers. This
is gonna be great. He has lost a game. The
Dodgers had a lead in the top of the ninth
ten times. They could be ninety eight and fifty nine
right now, the one seed chasing one hundred wins without
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Tanner Scott taking the ball. And then I don't care
if Dave Roberts has to put lipstick on this pig
that Andrew Friedman signed. It's not that big of a
d ill. Everybody loved the signing. It was a big
swing on a reliever, just like Kirby Yates, something they
never do, and everyone's like, this is awesome. Dodgers are
spending money on the bullpen and it blew up on
their face. So what you got four million asses in
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seats this year, And I would imagine if we got
a peek at the books, they sell seventeen million bucks
in merch in a single home series. So write it
off man.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
They do make a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Matt money is not the concern. It's better to send
him home. It would have been better for him to
have been injured the entire season. And that's the way
the seventeen million dollars was spent. And let me say
this for the nerds out there that point to analytics
and the advanced analytics here it is I am never
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on this show ever going to quote the war statistic
again wins above replacement. Why because there is not a
chance in hell that that that statistic is accurate. When
Tanner Scott's war wins above replacement is negative point eight,
that somehow he has only cost the Dodgers point eight losses.
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He has literally lost ten games when he has been
handed the ball with the lead in the bottom of
the ninth inning or the top of a ninth inning
to end a game. Literally he has lost ten games,
and yet his win above replacement is negative point it. No,
it should be negative ten, because that's the exact stat
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that he had. He has blown ten games.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
He took credit for the loss. You heard him in
his interview postgame, and that's one should have won the game.
It's my fault, right So that's not even point eight.
That's one right there.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Right there, That's one I don't want to hear about
wins above replacement.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Ever, again, I'm not a numbers guy that should have
won the game.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yes, my fault point eight.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yesterday Dave sa told us Will Klein was a warm body,
a filling guy, someone to hold a spot until someone
else gets out.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I think Roger Klein had a pretty good career.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
He in his In will Klein's twelve and two thirds
innings in twelve appearances, he is allowed and earned run
three times, not one in high leverage situations. In his
last two He's allowed one hit and struck out three.
In September, Tanner Scott's last twelve outings not even twelve innings,
nine innings. He short three innings on his last twelve outings,
and he has allowed three on three separate occasions two
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or more runs. He has allowed eleven hits. He has
allowed nine runs in his last twelve.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
There's a lot to be desired for somebody that's making
that much money.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Now Here is here is the flip side. Here is
because look, I said this was unthinkable about a week ago.
I was like, look, Dodgers would have to go four
and five, Padres would have to go eight and two
in order for them to win the division. Oh, it's
no longer unthinkable. It is now very possible. And at
this point I would I would rather let's can you
(26:02):
get like one more win, maybe two, and let's just
get that four seat. Let's get out of the three
because the Cubs have lost five in a row, their
closer is gone for the season, Sucker is out.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Just reminded me this is the time of the year
where you really start to lose your mind.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yes, I'm on board with Matt.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I know where you're going about, like playoff positioning and
where's Rick.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I'm gonna get that. Let's paddle into that wave, because
you know what, I want nothing to do with those
freaking musclehead roid freaks in Philadelphia in October, in that
bandbox of a stadium where the bullpen that's given up
the most home runs in all of baseball is gonna
roll in and you're gonna face freaking A Ball Schwarber
and d ball Harp. No, I want nothing to do
(26:47):
with that. Just lose, lose them. And I would much
rather have Otani and Blake Snell face the Cubs, who
suck right now, in the first round and the Brewers
in the division round instead of having to go through
the freaking Phillies in a five game series with the
way this Bullpennis pitching, that is a zero chance you
(27:10):
get out of that series with a win, Absolutely zero.
So you know what, bring Tanner in. I talk about
a serf dude with an attitude. I thought, yesterday you attitude,
but today, bring him in. Man, blow the rest of
them and let's just freaking get to the four. Don't
even care anymore. Let the Padres win the division for
(27:32):
the first time in thirty years, lose the division for
the second time in thirteen years, and figure it out
after the postseason starts on Tuesday.
Speaker 9 (27:41):
It was funny, Matt, for an organization that loves analytics
and a sport that loves analytics and numbers, wouldn't you
look at the analytics that's in front of you, the
playoffs in front of you, the tournament in front of you,
and say, which is the easiest path and better path
for our team stats wise, analytically for US still win
a championship through Philly.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
And maybe they have Kates And maybe that's why Tanner
got the call, and maybe that's why Dave is calling
them scared wow, And maybe that's what they're doing. Oh,
Dodgers are playing chess. They're playing chess.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Just the wild accusations and allegations that happen on this show,
just the rabbit hole of just absolutely confusing yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
You have a Cubs team that has lost five games
in a row, a Brewer team that lost their all
star closer McGill is gone for the year.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
Brandon Woodrift just went on the IL.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
They can't score runs to save their life. You know what, Padres,
I ain't got a feeling this may hey, let's go goose.
This may be your year. This may be your year
to secure the NL West and get yourself a divisional
series after the wild card with the Philadelphia Phillies.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
The Dodgers take pride and winning the division.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Based on what I've seen in the last month, Pee,
I don't think there's much pride at all. Oh wow,
I don't think there's much of anything out there on
the board. Starters are playing great, the batters are starting
to you know, the the the hitters are starting to
come around. His season around. It's the It is a
bullpen unlike any bullpen we have ever seen, like any other.
Speaker 9 (29:21):
I can see where you doubt Matt a little bit.
But remember what Andrew Freeman said. He likes Matt, he
likes way he thinks.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
That's right. So that's right, Matt, go for this analytical department.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That was quite some time.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
It was a couple of years ago, but we're going
to hold on to it. You know, let's get let's
book Freedman, Hey Friedman, seventeen mil not your fault, man.
Everybody loved the signing. It's okay, but let's get that
four seed. Send Tanner home and uh and march your
way to a world series. And boy, you want to
talk about a celebration.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
You book Friedman, and I'm leading with two lane football.
All right, we'll be back with the Dead and the
Life Guy. Birthday of the Day.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
How about that green wave?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Matt's Matt about Tanner Scott, but he also wants Dodge Flute.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's right, so they have a better path, That's right.
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Yeah, but we all know six forty is fine. It's
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Speaker 5 (31:14):
Either scared or you're pitching too careful.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, he just called you skurred. I mean wow, he
just straight up said your skirt.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Either scared or you're pitching too careful.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Dave I believe the kids say scur.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I don't think they do.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Either scared or you're pitching too careful.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I'm gonna go scared. I'm gonna I'm gonna go scared
on that Wait.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
What happened is skured podcast? The show on the iHeart
Radio app.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
That's just the facts.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
That's right there. I'm waiting for you. What kind of
training have you, gentlemen been doing. Blah blah blah, me training, sir.
We are very happy to be on the iHeartRadio app
streaming live or you could podcast it later. And as
the young people say, and by young people we mean
maybe people six years younger than us, right, don't.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Be scurred, don't be scurred.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Matt your dead guy, Birthday of the day, A real
twentieth century slinger, Matt like Jackson dart Herb Jeffries, one
hundred and twelve years old, born a bastard.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Oh bastard, show of record with a bastard for the
dead guy.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Love it Irish and Moorish and French, Canadian roots, got
it all. He's a month well, you know, that's a
little bit of the story from Detroit. He proclaimed himself
to be thirty one percent Negro and proud of his heritage.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I assume that's a direct quote.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yes, in a time in the thirties when a mixed
race performer may shy away from that identity. In fact,
Herb Jeffries used makeup to darken his skit so he
would look more black when he played with all black bands.
(33:20):
Interesting story. He dropped out of high school during the
Wall Street Crash and became a full time singer. Louis
Armstrong gave him a note of recommendation at the Savoy
Ballroom in Chicago, and Lewis actually helped him with various clubs,
and then he worked with Duke Ellington. Like you, Matt.
(33:41):
He had a deep baritone voice, so everybody believed him
whatever he said. Whatever he said, it didn't Matt. He
tell people he's black, they believed him. The I'm not okay,
I guess you're not, he said. He actually identified as
as white later in life for economic and highly personal reasons.
(34:06):
And then he said, my father is Portuguese, Spanish, American,
Indian and Negro. How the hell can I identify with
one race or another? Which is which is a fair point?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Fair point?
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I said, fair point?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Her real Mutt.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
It was actually Billy Strayhorn who got Jeffries to sing baritone,
and his career took off from there. He performed as
Duke Ellington singer and with Strayhorn for years in the forties.
That's how he really made his names.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
To bet he couldn't hitch on with people that were
more popular. You're right.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
He was also in movies matt musical westerns and what
they called black westerns in the time. A few titles
for you, Harlem on the Prairie.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Well that'd be interesting.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Look Harlem, Rides of the Range.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Ah, get a sense of a theme here.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
And my favorite Bronze Bukaroo since some action movies in
the seventies. Herb Jeffries was married to Tempest Storm, the
queen of Exotic dancers, huge barrel chested woman, and he
(35:27):
was also married to three other chicks, had five kids.
He died. No, no, they were all with wives.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
OK.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Though he was he was a bastard. Yeah, he died
in He died in twenty fourteen at the age of
one hundred. Wow. Yeah, Herb Jeffries, run, you're a live
guy like my Gunda. Yes, hell of a run in Stillwater.
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Speaker 3 (36:36):
Well done.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I saw the title Jacques Valet and I'm like, is
it uphologist? Is it eupologist?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Is it fat? Is it fat?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
And then I clicked in and I was like, Oh,
it's ufologists. Oh French News, University of Paris, masters in astrophysics.
This is not Middle America. I saw UFO between my
packs and mall Borough Reds, and they probe a backside
kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
That's what they always do, Matt. They always want to
see what's in your butthole?
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Right. He is, however, a winner of the Jules Vern
Prize for his science fiction novel Lay sub Space in
nineteen sixty one. He got to the States in sixty two,
U t Austin Lands a gig at NASA. He maps
Mars fuck up that sort of thing. Moves to Chicago
(37:31):
in sixty three, works at Northwestern as a system's analyst,
connects with the share of the astronomy department, and he
is Wildcat, the first tub well not this weekend, one
of the first guys we love Skiffer don't know, one
of the first guys to work on AI artificial intelligence.
Nineteen sixty seven, he earns his PhD in industrial engineering.
(37:51):
While working there, gets the call from Royal Debt Shell,
then RCA, then Stanford says, we're on the cutting edge
of this computer thing. Get out here. He starts working
with plasma and of course networking, the precursor to the Internet.
He gets into money, venture gets into money, I should
say venture capital. It makes a bunch of money. He
seeds companies that are acquired by lucent, Intel and AOL
(38:13):
and Cisco, and the whole time he's into UFOs. According
to Vallet, he cited, here's the whole time.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Guess what I've been doing. You know what I've been in.
I've been in my basement.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Said he saw UFO in nineteen fifty five above his house.
And he said after he landed a gig on staff
at the French Space Committee. He witnessed the destruction of
tracking tapes of an unknown object orbiting Earth in retrograde.
Said it was a satellite go in the opposite direction
of Earth's rotation. Said, not possible with the rocket technology
(38:46):
of the time, and he saw him destroy the tape.
He says his foundation of his theory of extraterrestrials those
sons of bitches, that there are ended that are multi dimensional,
that they operate beyond space time. Thus they could coexist
(39:06):
with humans yet remain completely undetected. He believes in a
solar dance. He says that's what the miracle at Fatima was,
that it was a UFO. He had a relationship with
the CIA. He was tight with analyst Kit Green, and
Kit got him a temporary security clearance in nineteen seventy four,
so he looked through everything. He was intermittently consulted on
(39:28):
remote viewing research, including the Stargate through the seventies and eighties.
He has been associated with Robert Bigelow as a consultant
to the National Institute of Discovery Science and Bigelow Airspace
and Valet is the real life model for Spielberg's character
Lacombe in Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Married to Kids.
(39:50):
A bunch of books best sellers, including Messengers of Deception,
UFO Contacts and Cults, Dimensions, Casebook of Alien Contact Confrontations,
A Scientists Search for Alien Contact Revelations, Alien Contact and
Human Deception, and Wonders in the Sky. Unexplained aerial objects
(40:16):
from antiquity to modern times.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I thought the last one was gonna be Bronze Bukkarooth.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Bronze Bukaroo Bonzig. Jacques Valet, Happy birthday, you French freak.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Well go lucky for all of us. Matt. I know
Tim Skipper, and I think everything's gonna.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Be all right. Every little thing it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
I think against the Northwestern Wildcats, it's gonna be something
to cheer about. I feel. Coming up, we have the
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magic number P is now two. The Brewers have knocked
off the padres today, so a Dodger win tonight will
bring that down to one. Blake Snell on the mound,
Dodgers trying to shake off these back to back losses
(01:24):
courtesy of Blake Trying and Tanner Scott and that bullpen.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well Matt joining us right now speaking of bullpens on
your Toyota Dealers Celebrity Hotline. Is Rob Debble, friend of
the show, a real and he's right now in Cincinnati
where they're honoring him tonight, where he played his five
years and was a World Series champ and the NLCSMVP
(01:51):
and two time All Star. Of course a media star
as well. The first time I met him was on
the best damn sports show period period. We've got a
long history and a lot of respect for him, and
Hunter Green and Skimes are pitching against each other tonight period.
He's there in Cincinnati and he's taking some time to
talk to us. We don't deserve it. What's cracking, Rob?
(02:12):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (02:13):
I'm doing great. I'm actually sitting behind the bullpen in
center field watching schemes right now, pumping in there about
one hundred and ten miles an hour, one hundred Greens
throwing about one hundred and five and I'm feeling really
old right now.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Guys, those are starters, dibbs. The Dodgers have no problems
with starters, you know, Tani last night as Fastball was
clocking in over one hundred and one miles an hour.
But man, this bullpen is an issue, and we needed
to bring you on to kind of share with us.
How quickly can they get this thing turned around? If
they can get this thing turned around.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Well, it's hard, Matt, because you're having to use the
bullpen for nine or twelve hours every night, even show. Hey,
I was looking at show Hayess numbers the other day.
What is it like five of his last six starts
or maybe five of his last seven starts. The Dodgers
lost because they got to come in and get the
final twelve out of the game. It's not easy, you know,
(03:06):
those endings that up the warm ups at up and
your arm is killing you about this time of year
and you kind of want to or you have clinched
your playoffsplot spot clinched a point where you can rest
these guys a little bit and have some guys who
September call ups come up and have those guys go
out there and finish the season for you. And that's
(03:27):
not happening, so you're still using your bullpen and meaningful games.
A lot of these teams are dragging God. I cover
the Yankees, Red Sox, and Mets every day on the
East Coast, and they're all dying, all their bullpens, all
their closers are dying. So pitch pitching is at a
premium right now. And if the Dodgers don't have guys
going seven innings, the bullpens the team, the part of
(03:49):
the team that's got to finish those games. We're just
talking about this. Norm Charlton's here with me, Randy Myers
is here with me, and and you know, we were
just talking about this. Back in our day. You got
five guys in the bullpen. Thirty years later, now you've
got eight guys in the bullpen. So it's really it's
such a turnaround. I mean, you remember where the Dodgers
(04:11):
was the first five man rotation. They went from four
to five. Now you almost have six guys in a
rotation because you're just too much. It's depending on guys
only going fifteen or eighteen outs. They've got to do
something turn it around.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Oh great stuff. A great perspective that we would not
have if we weren't disturbing Rob Dibble in the middle
of a baseball game with his teammates and having fun,
but we sure appreciate him joining us. We have to
say when it feels like everything that will go wrong
or could go wrong does when it comes to the
bullpen in the last few weeks, and I know it
(04:47):
feels like that for a lot of different teams. Did
somebody find the confidence to turn it around? Or is
it a freak thing that happens like a bird crap's
on somebody or something and it turns it around, or
is there no parting it around?
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Listen, let's just take the Yankees. They traded for Devin Williams.
Devin Williams basically he crapped the beds early in the
year and lost his job. So you have to go
out there, you trade for Daval and you trade for Bednar.
Bednar's now your closer. So there's no magic to it
that tros. It's it's more about who's healthy, who's confident,
(05:23):
who's going to come in and throw strikes. The problem is,
in my day, eight out of ten pitches were fastballs,
four scene two scene moving it in and out. Now
six seven pitches are breaking balls are change ups. These
these guys love to help the bottom of the order
with this off speed trap. It's it's hard. It's hard
(05:44):
to reverse that mentality of attacking, attacking, attacking. So yes,
I know one hundred green or schemes. They love to
attack with their best fastballs, but they still love to
throw sixty percent breaking balls, fifty five percent breaking balls.
They still mentally don't trust their best stuff. Where I
always i'm if I'm in a jam and I got
(06:05):
Let's just say we're just talking about the Giants lineup.
Back when I played, you had Will Clark, Brett Butler,
Kevin Mitchell, Matt Williams. You get guys like that in
the lineup, you had to attack them. You could not
hang a breaking ball or a changeup, or you get
burned for three run home run. So these guys the
(06:27):
pitch in reverse. So it's very difficult for me to
look at how do you fix that when these guys
don't want to fix themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
So, Dibbs, what does it tell you when Tanner Scott
goes out there last night throws twenty pitches in eighteen
of them are sliders, and that guy can cook at
ninety eight on his fastball, What is like, is there
something to take away from that?
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Well?
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Ill coached seventeen and eighteen. You travel money, and these
guys one time if they're ninety five or ninety and
these guys that I'm coaching or throwing in the load
of mid eighties, somebody turns that eighty five around, they
don't want to throw it again. They're petrified. Oh my god,
that guy just told my fastball. And it's like one guy, dude,
(07:07):
you got eight more guys. Why are you worried about
one fastball that somebody lit up? You got to you
gotta keep pounding, pounding, pounding, and and don't show any respect.
That's that was the different mentality. When I was eight,
I didn't think you could hit me. When I was twelve,
I didn't think you could hit me. So when I
got to the major leagues, I still didn't. You know,
somebody asked a question today of us, Uh, you know
(07:29):
who's the toughest out? A. They're all tough. B. I
never thought anybody could hit me. So when I'm watching
these guys today, I watched Lucas shi Alito last night
against Toronto. That dude to ninety eight pitches and went
four innings, actually four and a third. I apologize he
got ninety eight pitches. But there it's I don't want
(07:50):
to say they're scared. It's when they give up a
hit on their best pitch. They go to two and
three And I was always taught don't get beat with
your second or third best pitch. These guys go to
those pitches and really get burned and they're pulled out
of the game.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
These guys are whitnies.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
We're talking around dublasses, but I don't want to say
that on the air.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
We can.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
We're worried that the Dodgers are fat cats, DIBs. Are
they fat cats?
Speaker 6 (08:19):
No? No, because guys don't think like that. Here's the thing.
They have very low self esteem. They their confidence gets
shredded or listen, you're it's a losing situation. It's the
one sport where it's built on failure. And you've got
seven guys I think hitting three hundred in all of
baseball seven you got like fifteen teams are hitting below
(08:44):
to forty five as a team. So the you know,
showing up for work every day knowing I could go
over four, I could fail again. I mean I think
that I was watching the game with the Yankees and
Stanton had like two hits in forty eight at bats
or some crap. Just think of that guy going home.
He's miserable. He's miserable with the wife or girlfriend. He
(09:04):
comes back, he's miserable at the ballpark. So, uh, you
know that that's why the sport has so many guys
that get down on themselves. Just look at them. They're
not happy. We were always happy, we were always going out.
Here's another thing, guys, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you
a real secret. Yeah, they're more worried about their brand
and how people view them on Instagram than going out
(09:25):
and having a beard. They can't do that. Like if
they had cameras when I played, my career would have
lasted like two minutes. So you know, the thing is
you you can't sneak around. You can't go out and
play and release a lot of anks because you know
someone's gonna catch you. So these guys they go home
(09:45):
and they dwell on negative negative, negative, negative, and it's
hard to it's hard to growl out of that hole.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I want to let you get back to your your
team and the game. But real quick, dibbs, is it
feels like you know, it's crazy to say this with
a four hundred million dollar pay and Snell and Otani,
But it does feel like the Phillies are maybe a
bit of kryptonite for this Dodger team. Does it? Does
it feel like that or do you still feel like
when you look at it, the Dodgers are the class
(10:12):
of the NL.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
No, the Dodgers are the class of the NL. Don't
don't sleep on the Brewers. They have much better pitching
than people think. But the Phillies are a bunch of
blue collar dudes. They they want to fight. They are
going to battle you too, the nail. So you've got
you've got very different teams. Padres, Padres. I think they're
like a sushi eating team. Those those are some guys
(10:35):
that you know they're they're like, oh, hey man, look
at us. We won a playoff spot Who cared dude
win win a championship? Would you?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
So?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
No, I think the Dodgers are going to be fine.
And you know, I don't like the Dodgers. For me
to say that I love them. I love the Freddie Freemans,
the rookie Betts Is, Dave Roberts couldn't be a nicer guy. Hey,
sometimes you gotta go out there maybe fight somebody. So
that's the problem. They don't go to bars and get
in fights anymore.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, well don't do that tonight though, Dibbs. You know
they got cameras.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
We love you man, Thanks.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
For joining us years old. I'm the only day I'm
fighting is my pillow.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Quite all of us. What a stud junior night in Cincinnati. Again,
It's God blessed yourpreciate you guys. Take care. What a wow.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Right from the ballpark, the Great American Ballpark, Red she's
got Skeens Green hanging out with Norm Charlton and he's
chatting with us.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Wow, what a guy. Just speaks to how cool we are.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I mean, come on, just want to talk to us
about baseball?
Speaker 8 (11:39):
Hunter Green working on a no no right now?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Isn't it like the second inning case the third?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
But hey, that only guy? The other guy only went
three and a third. Yeah all right, well we'll be
right back with the top story that. I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
He might be alright with it, but that doesn't mean
we have to be alright with it. That's all I'm saying.
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Speaker 2 (13:37):
Mass story of Oh so, this is gonna be talking
out of two sides of my mouth. Which I do regularly. Paralysis.
I've never heard such paralysis by analysis. That's where we start.
Just leave the guy out there, man, and I'm gonna
say that out of one side of my mouth, and
then I'm going to say something else out of the
other in a minute, at the first sign of trouble
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or when you get to the third time through the line, like,
enough of that, bs it, it's it's not working. I
get that. Show he had to come out of the
game ninety one pitches, the most they've let him throw
this season, six innings the most they've let him throw
this season at two Tommy John's I get it. His
next start will be in the postseason. But Emmachian did
(14:18):
not have to come out of the game, And yesterday
David Vasse joined us and suggested it was probably out
of precaution for the postseason. Why put him out there
for the eighth inning and eighty four pitches when he
could get to one hundred and there's something much bigger.
I don't know. I don't know why put him out
there for the eighth because what the hell are we doing?
That's why? Because Okay, he gets to one hundred pitches,
(14:40):
it's not one hundred and eighty or something. It's let
him stay out there. You know what his last inning
was in that in that loss that should have been
a win, that he allowed one hit in a three
to one line. It was a five pitch strikeout, a
one pitch weak ass groundout, and a two pitch weak
ass groundout. His fastball was at ninety six, his slider
(15:03):
was unhittable, and the two changeups that he threw led
to the two groundouts. That means you're dominating. There is
no slippage. His arm is not tired, his body is
not fatigued. The seventh inning looked exactly like the sixth inning,
which looked like the fifth inning, which looked like the
first thing. The only ball in play was a week
(15:24):
flyout on a change up in the six. That is
back to back innings of nothing. Leave him out there. Instead,
they go to Blake Trin and for what for a
freaking tire fire, for abject failure, for a guy who
has got seven losses and three blown saves in a
one zero game with a magic number of three? Like again,
(15:49):
what are we doing last night? Like what?
Speaker 7 (15:53):
Like? How?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Why is this so hard?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
This isn't like you know. I mean, it's it's why
is it so hard? It's mid to late September now.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
To the playoffs stand in six days.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, and you're throwing up your hands asking the question
what are we doing? And I could tell your frustration
is real.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It is.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
And I don't know. I don't know what to I
don't know what to tell you, Matt. You know they've
they've paid a lot of money for those relievers.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
It's my fault.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, it is your fault.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And they run them out there, get lost and the
one game it's fault. It's like they have Christmas lights
strapped to their chest.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
You want you fix it? Don't show up to the ballpark,
just be like, well they got to do on the
way man, Rogan and Rodney come to work every day. No,
they didn't. Well you know what I mean? What you mean?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
What do you mean they do? They go on air
every day?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Do they?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Even though they are like the Dodger relievers.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Just happen.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
It sucks and it's going to end tonight and.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
SMS New Day Tomorrow is not a new day. Today
is the same day as yesterday, which was the same
day as the day before last night. It was Jack.
Last night it was Tanner Scott. The night before it
was Blake. It's the same day everyone.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
At least they're not destroying beautiful quality starts.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I mean, look, last night, Otani comes out. Jack Dryer
comes in. First pitch, soft line out, The short gives
up a single descenter, but it's a two strike count.
Miss with a fastball. Next hitter on a two zero count,
three straight swinging strikes, two outs. Next guy, eh, you
miss slider rocket double the center, one run scores whatever,
(17:28):
He's fine, it's one run. It is four to one.
Tory Leavello brings in some dude named Lawlor. I don't
know if he's like, I don't I don't know if
he's related to Bingo or not. I don't know. But
they bring him in to pinch hit. So it's lefty
versus righty. And what does Dave do. He pulls them
(17:49):
for a matchup. He pulls Dryer, and then I look
into it, I'm like, who is this Lawler guy? Oh,
he's hitting one sixty seven and he's twenty three years
old and he's hitting one six and he has faced
the Dodgers eight times and he has yet to have
a single hit in all eight a bats that he
has faced the Dodgers. On August thirty first, he went
zero for four with two strikeouts and two popouts. And
(18:12):
oh what do you know? Jack Dryer faced this lawler
gentlemen on August twenty ninth. Three pitches, popfly. I gotta
go get Dryer. I can't possibly let him stay in there.
This thing could really get away from him. He's already
got two outs and they put a guy in the
in the on deck circle that's hitting one sixty seven.
I better go get Enriquez.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Are you saying that not only were the Dodger pitchers
pitching scared, but perhaps the manager was managing in such
a fashion.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Instead, they bring it in Riquez, who's not gonna inherit.
Love it Inheritor Runner in the last ten years of
my Ralph in here, it's a guy at second they
bring in a different pidgitter that it's a fire drill.
It's a bad deal. It's a bad deal for Dryer.
(19:12):
Let him get out of it. He's not struggling. His
stuff was fine.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You give you a like they are a wild eyed
gambler at Marongo, chasing their money in the line at the.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Atm Yes, they are running up to the roulette table
with one hundred dollars bill saying money plays, and they're
throwing it down on number eighteen and Riquez could have
had a cleaninging in the eighth. Vesia pitches the ninth.
Tanner Scott is in sniffing the field in a one
run game which he has no business throwing in zero
(19:42):
none like ever should have won the game. It's my fault,
it is. You're right, it's the same thing you said
a week ago. It's the worst year of my life.
We should have won that game. Shut him down. I've
said this before. Shut him down for the year. It
is over. There is nothing left to see. Don't put
Clayton Kershaw out in the bullpen. If all he's gonna
(20:03):
do is go when the gate opens, and Tanner Scott's
running out and a one one day in the ninth
and he's like, there's no way first happen. It sucks
and it's gotta end tonight and tomorrow's a new day.
Tomorrow's a new day because you'll never pitch again the
rest of the year.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
But to the point on Dryer, he's got two competitive
at bats. He wins. You pull him, but Tanner freaking Scott.
Tanner Scott comes out in the ninth has nothing from jump.
You can already see, Oh yeah, this is a loss.
This is going to end horribly. After he hits the
first batter with zero control of any of his pitches.
(20:39):
Next at bat walk four pitches. I hit the first
guy and walk the second guy. Yeah, but you had
to face one more Tanner and all he wanted to
do is lay down a bunt, and you're trying to
take his freaking Adams Apple off because you still can't
find the strike zone for a guy that wants to sacrifice, which, hey, toy,
tell your guy to pull the bat back. He's probably
gonna walk on four pitches or get drilled, and you're
(21:02):
gonna have bases loaded, no outs, So don't even bother
with the sacrifice. But listen with Tanner Scott taking the
ball in the ninth, in and then and then pee,
he leaves him in there. Yes, he pulls Jack Dryer,
Yet he leaves Tanner Scott after three completely non competitive
(21:25):
at bats. You know what, didn't have the feeling for Jack,
but I got the feeling here that Tanner's gonna be
able to get out of this one with one out
and guys on second and third, even though he has
yet to throw a strike. Well, I hit the first
guy and walk the side and guy.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
That puts yourself in a pretty tough spot to get
out of, and we didn't. You didn't get out of it.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
You know what I would have done. If I were
Dave Roberts, I would have held up four fingers for
the next three hitters and just said, f it, man,
let's just lose this way so I don't have to
watch Tanner Scott throw another ball.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I am.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
If you were Dave Roberts, you would not have done it.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I would have intentionally walked you next three hitters. You
lose the game, and let's go home so I don't
have to listen to this press conference.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
You would lose your team's for confidence and you would
be fired if you were to do that.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
It's better than watching him melt down for the tenth
time ten times.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
You should have heard it on the Arizona side, You
know that really annoying. What's his name Berthume? That guy
or whatever, the guy that does the Diamondbacks play by
play right, ooh, he was fired up.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I can imagine. I bet he was fired up the
second Tanner Scott came out of the bullpen. He was
probably pull show up Roger Clyde and the peacemakers. This
is gonna be great. He has lost a game. The
Dodgers had a lead in the top of the ninth
ten times. They could be ninety eight and fifty nine
right now, the one seed chasing one hundred wins without
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Tanner Scott taking the ball. And then I don't care
if Dave Roberts has to put lipstick on this pig
that Andrew Friedman signed. It's not that big of a
d ill. Everybody loved the signing. It was a big
swing on a reliever, just like Kirby Yates, something they
never do, and everyone's like, this is awesome. Dodgers are
spending money on the bullpen and it blew up on
their face. So what you got four million asses in
(23:14):
seats this year, And I would imagine if we got
a peek at the books, they sell seventeen million bucks
in merch in a single home series. So write it
off man.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
They do make a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Matt money is not the concern. It's better to send
him home. It would have been better for him to
have been injured the entire season. And that's the way
the seventeen million dollars was spent. And let me say
this for the nerds out there that point to analytics
and the advanced analytics here it is I am never
(23:48):
on this show ever going to quote the war statistic
again wins above replacement. Why because there is not a
chance in hell that that that statistic is accurate. When
Tanner Scott's war wins above replacement is negative point eight,
that somehow he has only cost the Dodgers point eight losses.
(24:13):
He has literally lost ten games when he has been
handed the ball with the lead in the bottom of
the ninth inning or the top of a ninth inning
to end a game. Literally he has lost ten games,
and yet his win above replacement is negative point it. No,
it should be negative ten, because that's the exact stat
(24:33):
that he had. He has blown ten games.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
He took credit for the loss. You heard him in
his interview postgame, and that's one should have won the game.
It's my fault, right So that's not even point eight.
That's one right there.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Right there, That's one I don't want to hear about
wins above replacement.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Ever, again, I'm not a numbers guy that should have
won the game.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yes, my fault point eight.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yesterday Dave sa told us Will Klein was a warm body,
a filling guy, someone to hold a spot until someone
else gets out.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I think Roger Klein had a pretty good career.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
He in his In will Klein's twelve and two thirds
innings in twelve appearances, he is allowed and earned run
three times, not one in high leverage situations. In his
last two He's allowed one hit and struck out three.
In September, Tanner Scott's last twelve outings not even twelve innings,
nine innings. He short three innings on his last twelve outings,
and he has allowed three on three separate occasions two
(25:28):
or more runs. He has allowed eleven hits. He has
allowed nine runs in his last twelve.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
There's a lot to be desired for somebody that's making
that much money.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Now Here is here is the flip side. Here is
because look, I said this was unthinkable about a week ago.
I was like, look, Dodgers would have to go four
and five, Padres would have to go eight and two
in order for them to win the division. Oh, it's
no longer unthinkable. It is now very possible. And at
this point I would I would rather let's can you
(26:02):
get like one more win, maybe two, and let's just
get that four seat. Let's get out of the three
because the Cubs have lost five in a row, their
closer is gone for the season, Sucker is out.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Just reminded me this is the time of the year
where you really start to lose your mind.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yes, I'm on board with Matt.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I know where you're going about, like playoff positioning and
where's Rick.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I'm gonna get that. Let's paddle into that wave, because
you know what, I want nothing to do with those
freaking musclehead roid freaks in Philadelphia in October, in that
bandbox of a stadium where the bullpen that's given up
the most home runs in all of baseball is gonna
roll in and you're gonna face freaking A Ball Schwarber
and d ball Harp. No, I want nothing to do
(26:47):
with that. Just lose, lose them. And I would much
rather have Otani and Blake Snell face the Cubs, who
suck right now, in the first round and the Brewers
in the division round instead of having to go through
the freaking Phillies in a five game series with the
way this Bullpennis pitching, that is a zero chance you
(27:10):
get out of that series with a win, Absolutely zero.
So you know what, bring Tanner in. I talk about
a serf dude with an attitude. I thought, yesterday you attitude,
but today, bring him in. Man, blow the rest of
them and let's just freaking get to the four. Don't
even care anymore. Let the Padres win the division for
(27:32):
the first time in thirty years, lose the division for
the second time in thirteen years, and figure it out
after the postseason starts on Tuesday.
Speaker 9 (27:41):
It was funny, Matt, for an organization that loves analytics
and a sport that loves analytics and numbers, wouldn't you
look at the analytics that's in front of you, the
playoffs in front of you, the tournament in front of you,
and say, which is the easiest path and better path
for our team stats wise, analytically for US still win
a championship through Philly.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
And maybe they have Kates And maybe that's why Tanner
got the call, and maybe that's why Dave is calling
them scared wow, And maybe that's what they're doing. Oh,
Dodgers are playing chess. They're playing chess.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Just the wild accusations and allegations that happen on this show,
just the rabbit hole of just absolutely confusing yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
You have a Cubs team that has lost five games
in a row, a Brewer team that lost their all
star closer McGill is gone for the year.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
Brandon Woodrift just went on the IL.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
They can't score runs to save their life. You know what, Padres,
I ain't got a feeling this may hey, let's go goose.
This may be your year. This may be your year
to secure the NL West and get yourself a divisional
series after the wild card with the Philadelphia Phillies.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
The Dodgers take pride and winning the division.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Based on what I've seen in the last month, Pee,
I don't think there's much pride at all. Oh wow,
I don't think there's much of anything out there on
the board. Starters are playing great, the batters are starting
to you know, the the the hitters are starting to
come around. His season around. It's the It is a
bullpen unlike any bullpen we have ever seen, like any other.
Speaker 9 (29:21):
I can see where you doubt Matt a little bit.
But remember what Andrew Freeman said. He likes Matt, he
likes way he thinks.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
That's right. So that's right, Matt, go for this analytical department.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That was quite some time.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
It was a couple of years ago, but we're going
to hold on to it. You know, let's get let's
book Freedman, Hey Friedman, seventeen mil not your fault, man.
Everybody loved the signing. It's okay, but let's get that
four seed. Send Tanner home and uh and march your
way to a world series. And boy, you want to
talk about a celebration.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
You book Friedman, and I'm leading with two lane football.
All right, we'll be back with the Dead and the
Life Guy. Birthday of the Day.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
How about that green wave?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Matt's Matt about Tanner Scott, but he also wants Dodge Flute.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's right, so they have a better path, That's right.
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We just won't be defeated. Wednesday, the Dodgers taking on
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pitch at six forty.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, but we all know six forty is fine. It's
right around eight thirty ish that we got to get
a little nervous.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Sure, it's a long list of grievances.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
It's right there on eight twenty and.
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Statements made here on the Petros and Money Show. Shave
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Even if your face is fat, you can't escape. And
we're also your home of the World Series champion Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Either scared or you're pitching too careful.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, he just called you skurred. I mean wow, he
just straight up said your skirt.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Either scared or you're pitching too careful.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Dave I believe the kids say scur.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I don't think they do.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Either scared or you're pitching too careful.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I'm gonna go scared. I'm gonna I'm gonna go scared
on that Wait.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
What happened is skured podcast? The show on the iHeart
Radio app.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
That's just the facts.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
That's right there. I'm waiting for you. What kind of
training have you, gentlemen been doing. Blah blah blah, me training, sir.
We are very happy to be on the iHeartRadio app
streaming live or you could podcast it later. And as
the young people say, and by young people we mean
maybe people six years younger than us, right, don't.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Be scurred, don't be scurred.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Matt your dead guy, Birthday of the day, A real
twentieth century slinger, Matt like Jackson dart Herb Jeffries, one
hundred and twelve years old, born a bastard.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Oh bastard, show of record with a bastard for the
dead guy.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Love it Irish and Moorish and French, Canadian roots, got
it all. He's a month well, you know, that's a
little bit of the story from Detroit. He proclaimed himself
to be thirty one percent Negro and proud of his heritage.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I assume that's a direct quote.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yes, in a time in the thirties when a mixed
race performer may shy away from that identity. In fact,
Herb Jeffries used makeup to darken his skit so he
would look more black when he played with all black bands.
(33:20):
Interesting story. He dropped out of high school during the
Wall Street Crash and became a full time singer. Louis
Armstrong gave him a note of recommendation at the Savoy
Ballroom in Chicago, and Lewis actually helped him with various clubs,
and then he worked with Duke Ellington. Like you, Matt.
(33:41):
He had a deep baritone voice, so everybody believed him
whatever he said. Whatever he said, it didn't Matt. He
tell people he's black, they believed him. The I'm not okay,
I guess you're not, he said. He actually identified as
as white later in life for economic and highly personal reasons.
(34:06):
And then he said, my father is Portuguese, Spanish, American,
Indian and Negro. How the hell can I identify with
one race or another? Which is which is a fair point?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Fair point?
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I said, fair point?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Her real Mutt.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
It was actually Billy Strayhorn who got Jeffries to sing baritone,
and his career took off from there. He performed as
Duke Ellington singer and with Strayhorn for years in the forties.
That's how he really made his names.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
To bet he couldn't hitch on with people that were
more popular. You're right.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
He was also in movies matt musical westerns and what
they called black westerns in the time. A few titles
for you, Harlem on the Prairie.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Well that'd be interesting.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Look Harlem, Rides of the Range.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Ah, get a sense of a theme here.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
And my favorite Bronze Bukaroo since some action movies in
the seventies. Herb Jeffries was married to Tempest Storm, the
queen of Exotic dancers, huge barrel chested woman, and he
(35:27):
was also married to three other chicks, had five kids.
He died. No, no, they were all with wives.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
OK.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Though he was he was a bastard. Yeah, he died
in He died in twenty fourteen at the age of
one hundred. Wow. Yeah, Herb Jeffries, run, you're a live
guy like my Gunda. Yes, hell of a run in Stillwater.
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Speaker 2 (36:38):
I saw the title Jacques Valet and I'm like, is
it uphologist? Is it eupologist?
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Is it fat? Is it fat?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
And then I clicked in and I was like, Oh,
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This is not Middle America. I saw UFO between my
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of the first guys we love Skiffer don't know, one
of the first guys to work on AI artificial intelligence.
Nineteen sixty seven, he earns his PhD in industrial engineering.
(37:51):
While working there, gets the call from Royal Debt Shell,
then RCA, then Stanford says, we're on the cutting edge
of this computer thing. Get out here. He starts working
with plasma and of course networking, the precursor to the Internet.
He gets into money, venture gets into money, I should
say venture capital. It makes a bunch of money. He
seeds companies that are acquired by lucent, Intel and AOL
(38:13):
and Cisco, and the whole time he's into UFOs. According
to Vallet, he cited, here's the whole time.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Guess what I've been doing. You know what I've been in.
I've been in my basement.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Said he saw UFO in nineteen fifty five above his house.
And he said after he landed a gig on staff
at the French Space Committee. He witnessed the destruction of
tracking tapes of an unknown object orbiting Earth in retrograde.
Said it was a satellite go in the opposite direction
of Earth's rotation. Said, not possible with the rocket technology
(38:46):
of the time, and he saw him destroy the tape.
He says his foundation of his theory of extraterrestrials those
sons of bitches, that there are ended that are multi dimensional,
that they operate beyond space time. Thus they could coexist
(39:06):
with humans yet remain completely undetected. He believes in a
solar dance. He says that's what the miracle at Fatima was,
that it was a UFO. He had a relationship with
the CIA. He was tight with analyst Kit Green, and
Kit got him a temporary security clearance in nineteen seventy four,
so he looked through everything. He was intermittently consulted on
(39:28):
remote viewing research, including the Stargate through the seventies and eighties.
He has been associated with Robert Bigelow as a consultant
to the National Institute of Discovery Science and Bigelow Airspace
and Valet is the real life model for Spielberg's character
Lacombe in Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Married to Kids.
(39:50):
A bunch of books best sellers, including Messengers of Deception,
UFO Contacts and Cults, Dimensions, Casebook of Alien Contact Confrontations,
A Scientists Search for Alien Contact Revelations, Alien Contact and
Human Deception, and Wonders in the Sky. Unexplained aerial objects
(40:16):
from antiquity to modern times.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I thought the last one was gonna be Bronze Bukkarooth.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Bronze Bukaroo Bonzig. Jacques Valet, Happy birthday, you French freak.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Well go lucky for all of us. Matt. I know
Tim Skipper, and I think everything's gonna.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Be all right. Every little thing it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
I think against the Northwestern Wildcats, it's gonna be something
to cheer about. I feel. Coming up, we have the
final hour, fun fact and quick hits, and then we
will say good night and enjoy Dodgers versus Diamondbacks. Nothing
to worry about late in the game. Trust us, everything's great,
Everything's fine.
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