October 1, 2025 • 33 mins
We are joined by LA Times columnist Dylan Hernandez live from Dodger Stadium as the Dodgers get set for Game 2 of their wildcard series against the Reds. The Angels fired Ron Washington and rumors are swirling that they could be looking at Albert Pujols as his replacement.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
And we continue on from Dodger Stadium. Fred Rogan Rodney
Pete on AM five seventy LA Sports. I gotta tell you,
Rodney's we sit out here. Brian Blackamo showed up.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Today, our guy Bla Blackamo. Blackamo runs the station. Yeah
he does, Yeah he does. If we could do this
every day, if we could do this too every day.
We told him, folks, we are so lucky to be here.
And I know there's not a lot going on in
the field, but to be here on a day where
the Dodgers are in the playoffs and they'll beat.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The Reds tonight. I told you that before the series
even started. It's just very cool.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I think you think that it's last night was really
the Reds only shot to kind of have a shot
at this series starting Hunter Green opening, you know, opening
the series Game one, and if they performed well, they
had a shot to win. If Hunter Green was on,
they got a shot to go, you know, keep it close.
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And it didn't happen. Everything that could go wrong for
the Reds went wrong last night. And now you think
it's it's it's over now Dodgers jump out to the
lead tonight it's over. They should just call the game
in the sixth sooner, so they don't have to go
to the late rules.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, right, so they don't have to go to the room. Yeah,
just call it. I'm telling you, Dodgers got ahead tonight.
It's done. There's no way. I mean, because Cincinnati had
their brains beaten last night and the only reason it
was close was really demoralized. Yeah they did. And even
though you get excited and you think, oh hey we
came back, we you know, we mounted a threat. You
didn't threaten anybody, not really, right. I mean tonight, Yamamota
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will pitch and what are you gonna bang out nine
runs off him? I don't think so eight runs off him?
I don't think so not gonna have six runs. No,
it's not gonna happen. And it's not because you know, look,
the Reds are just not the Dodgers. They're not the Dodgers.
They made the playoffs, but I mean, you know, they're
playing the monster here, and I think the Dodgers will
take care of business.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I said this last night in our string that that
the Dodgers just they put everybody on notice, and I
think everybody. It's what people feared the beginning of the
season when the Dodgers put together this roster that it's
just it is really a super team if healthy, with
the pitching staff and then the lineup that that they got.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Do you feel now people watching that game last night go.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh man, now they're healthy and they got everything going
for him.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
The only thing, the only chance we have is to
get us to the bullpen. I think people watching look
exactly like that. Now they go uh oh, but there's
an achilles. Yeah. If the bullpen was like last year's bullpen,
then no one would think the Dodgers could get beat.
Now they're healthy. Tommy Edman had a home run for god.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
He just came back. Yeah, like, oh god, they're all back.
Key k has been hot. Now he's back. And now
now where's the whole right, there's no home where? Yeah,
where's the weakness?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
The only problem is the bullpen, because if the bullpen
was as it was last year, I don't think anybody
anybody would think the Dodgers could get beat And correct
me if I'm wrong. Aren't the Phillies now the favorites? Yeah?
I think they are. Yeah, yeah, And I have to
tell you this, and I know that people are gonna
go Lie, you're a homer. I've said it long before
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we got to this point. I think the Phillies are
really good. I think there should be a lot of
concern about the Phillies. I think the Dodgers are going
to beat the Phillies, and I don't think that's the
World Series. Yeah, and I don't think it's a seven
game series. I don't think it's a seven game series.
I think they'll beat the Phillies. They'll beat the Phillies
because the last time they played the Phillies. Remember the key,
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the Dodgers hit their pitching. The Dodgers hit. Now the
Dodgers and they're missing. Phillies are missing their ace too. Yeah,
so they hit their better pitchers. They hit them, they
saw them, they hit them. So why are they not
going to hit him this time? Right now? They didn't
have Trey Turner. He's back, ball will be back, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And they played them without a full healthy pitching staff,
right well, right.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Why why won't they beat the Phillies.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
By the way, for it, I can guarantee you won't
go seven.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You know why? That's five?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I guarantee that too. You're right, it's five my dad.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
My dad, it won't even go five, right, it was?
So is it? Is it key?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Given that scenario and playing the Phillies in the five
game series? You know, uh important for the Dodgers to
close it tonight, yes, Jamoto? Yeah, so they don't have
to go to Otani or you know, Otani slated to
go tomorrow if if need be, or even Glass now
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if need be. So how important is it for the
Dodgers to close this out without having to use Otani?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Getting ready for the Philly series? Oh, it's it's very
important because we looked earlier, Kevin. It's Saturday Monday Division series, right.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Right, there's a game off between game one and game two.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
That's okay, So they won't play during the NFL. So
it's Saturday Monday in Philly. So you've got Otani to start,
and that's who will start Game one against Philly. Now
you play Monday. Snell pitched yesterday, So what is it Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
sixth game Monday, Yeah, six games? He can go Monday, yeah,
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oh Tani, Snell?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, even Yamamoto would have a five day, six day
rest because they have to fly. Yeah, and then they'll
be here for two like Wednesday Thursday, so Yamamoto can go.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, and you don't use glass now Kershaw will be
on on that roster.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So yeah for the Dodgers, as you know, he didn't
like this series, it is also important for them to
win tonight.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, just that gives everybody a little more breathing room here.
So because then if you look at the rotation, so
we know the first three are going to go, and
then it comes down to who goes games a curl,
you're saying, you're, you're you're you're saying.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Oh, if the Dodgers win to night, because Otani was
slated to go tomorrow night, if it's a Game three,
that if the Dodgers close it out tonight, Otani starts
Game one against Philly. Wouldn't you do that? I'm asking you.
You said that, you think you think that that's how
it goes.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, I would. What are you holding him for Saturday? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You give him an extra extra well, even have an
even pitch, so he's got all the rest.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And then Snell can go on nowdays you can go, Yeah,
he can go on Monday. You can go back to
the original rotation. You're back in Yamamoto and then Otani.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So you go, oh, well he wouldn't go in game four, well,
because he wouldn't have enough rest. Well, he would go Saturday,
and then he said it's Saturday Monday, and then so
Saturday and then Monday would be Snell. Okay, right, and
if it's I'm assuming it's Tuesday in Philly. No, no, no,
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Tuesday is a flight off day here. Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Wednesday Thursday, so Wednesday would be Yamamoto. And then you
go back to Tani or or Kershaw or Glass. You
haven't pitched Glass, now you haven't pitched she In. Yeah,
you haven't pitched.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Any of them. So it is important they win tonight
and close it out. Yeah, it's very important. So uh
so I do want to talk here Rodney for a
second about the Angels. Yes, oh, before that, Before that,
we'll get to the Angels. Let's do this real quick.
Boston can eliminate the Yankees tonight and in New York.
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In New York, so if you remember earlier in the year,
way early in the year, the Red Sox were like
sputtering and weren't playing well, and there were problems, and
they made a move and a lot of their fans thought,
what are you doing? How could you make a move
like this? I mean, you've just given away the franchise.
They traded Raphael Devers to the Giants.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Right, the big controversy with bringing in Bregman and Bregman
and Devs. If people don't remember, Devers was the third
baseman for Boston, right, So they signed Bregman to a
big deal to come to Boston and slated him to
play third base.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Right, and they whatever, what side do you ever?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You believe Devers was not aware of this and didn't
know that that's what the situation was. And they wanted
to try to work Devers in plan first base, maybe
just being the DH. He was not happy about that
and showed this from stration. Refused to play first base,
and they dealt him.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Right, He had an attitude problem, put it like that,
and he was The culture was ruined and everybody was fighting.
So they traded him. They traded their best player. They
made the playoffs. They traded their best player, their franchise player,
the guy they spent all this money for years, like
a monky deal. They traded him and they made the playoffs.
That talks about how important culture is. Culture chemistry, which
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the Dodgers, by the way, have mastered. But I just
found that really fascinating thinking about it last night. If
you go back, they thought they had just blown up
their fans thought they'd blown up the entire team. Yeah,
how do you do that? How can you do that?
You know, that'd be like in the minds of fans here.
They traded Otani and you go, how can you do that?
(09:48):
They made the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, Like Otani refused to play first base or right field.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Right, so we're going to trade him. Yeah, but they
then they still made the playoffs. It was really interesting.
All right, let's do Angels real quick. Ron Washington is
not coming back as manager. You know, he had a
bypass surgery last year and the team was playing okay
with him, but he had to go on medical league.
Somebody filled in for him, and the Angel decided it's
(10:15):
seventy four years old, he's not coming back. They were
quick to point out that it had nothing to do
with his health, and you go, oh, that was kind. No,
that was legal. There was nothing other than they covered themselves. Legally,
you can't fire somebody for a health problem. So they
made the decision. I think he meet like seven million
a year or something, and they get rid of them, which,
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of course, the Angels, by the way, one of the
worst teams in baseball, one of the worst teams in
the American League, with one of the worst farm systems.
Every year they say they're going to do something, they
do nothing. So now there's a report, there's a report.
This would be so typical that Andrew Albert Poolhols has
his personal services agreement with Ardi Moreno and he signed.
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He got that when he signed with the club, right,
so he signed and then he has his personal services
and it's kind of an ambassadory goes around, he talks
to people. If already needs him to speak at something,
he shows up. He's getting paid. There's a report that
they're considering him to be the manager. Pools pulls, well, hell,
(11:21):
we're already paid him. Why not. He's here. Albert get
in here. You understand how bad the Angels are.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
And Albert no offense, not like managed or coached or
did anything, not at like a minor league assistant or
anything like that at all.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Albert get in here. You manage the club. You know
what you're going on the road trips anyway, you might
as well just put on a uniform and sit in
there make some decisions. Do you, honest to God, have
any idea how awful the angels are? Can you appreciate
the absurdity of all of it? The answer is not
hiring Albert Poolholes. The answer is investing in an infrastructure
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so you can build a winning team. That's what the
answer to the question is. The answer is not, well,
we'll just put Albert in there. Who wants that job?
Who's going to take that job? Who wants to be
the manager of a team that does not invest in
the team? Who? And that's not saying we're not saying
that Albert can't.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Be successful, but it's hard for him to be successful
in that situation.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I'll put it like this. If the Dodger said they
wanted to make Albert pool Hols manager, I go, my god,
that's a brilliant idea. Everybody loves him, He's got a
lot of respect, he knows the game. If the Agers
want to make Albert Poolhols and manager, I go, what
the hell are you thinking? There is no way that
he could ever manage your club because he's putting a
no win situation. But just for them to even think
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that way. They had Joe Madden, which is by all
accounts the most likable guy ever, and they took him out,
and they took him out. Yeah, that was it for him.
I don't know how they do business. By the way,
one of the Reds is out here now and he
has no shirt on. He's just walking around barefeet, no
shirt talking. Who's that Dodger he's talking? Probably a former teammate,
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tat it up. That's all good. It's a little different
vibe than it was yesterday, Fred, it really is.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
There were a lot of folks out here at this
time yesterday for Game one.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Right now? Are you thinking that it's red? You're like,
this is the Swan song? This is it? Yeah, that's
what I told you guys.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I'll say now, my my Lacey is starting to feel
me in my older years here.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
But I think that might be Gavin looks.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
Actually, is that what?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I think? That's gay?
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Because Gavin looks, I know, has some ink. Oh, you're right, Kevin,
And he was. He was doing some stretches down here,
down the first place and the ground. Yeah, he was
kind of yelling at one of the groundskeepers for who was,
you know, just kind of spraying down some water. Now
I thought he was being serious. It seems like he
was more just in, you know, just lighthearted. So he
got up, walked over, and now he's talking to another Dodger.
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I don't know if that's a player or an official.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It looks like a player, you know, based on his
his look and his hoodie and and he's also got
no socks, no shoes on, and and and feeling the
ground and what we call it grounding, grounding, rounding. And
then we've got another red who's laying down sonning. He's sonning.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Okay, all right now let me right field, thanks for
pointing that out. Let me say this. Yesterday there was
a guy laying out there. Okay, fine, he's relaxing. This
guy's got a shirt off, you actually think short the beach.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Shorts, no shoes, no socks, shirt off. And he's yeah,
laying down on the grass on a on a bag
of gloves, balls whatever it may be, as his pillow
and his phone. He's looking at his phone. He's at
the beach, Yes, he is at the beach. Got his
bottom water right next to them. A lot of guys
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ready for the game tonight. Hey, Fred, listen, listen. Guys
get ready in different ways. So I'm not knocking anybody
how they get ready. And we're sitting here, what five
hours before the game? Four hours before the game. There's
a lot of things that happened before the game. There's
routines that guys go through. So whatever works for you
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works for you. Okay, that doesn't mean it's gonna be
great or not great. So I'm not knocking the guy.
You know, there's a lot of guys that meditate and
do different things before the game.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Okay, Well, we saw a couple of them laying out yesterday,
not without their shirt on, checking their phone, but we
saw a couple of them laying out yesterday, right, So
that's what they do to get ready. It didn't work.
It didn't work for them last night.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, But you don't change something because one game, Fred,
If that's your routine, you do your routine, and if
it didn't work last night, you don't just say, oh,
that didn't work last night, it changed my whole routine. No,
your routine is your roote team. You don't change it.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Okay, Well, he'll have a lot of time for his routine. Oh,
starting tomorrow. Wow, when we come back, Dylan Hernandez of
The Times is going to jump in here.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Our good buddy, he's right there where is Just swivel
your head to the left a little bit, and he's
sitting right there in the press box.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I think it's Jack Harris.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
He might be sitting next to Oh okay, so Dylan
knows to come down here.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yes, even though it looks like we might be interrupting
his lunch.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
But that's oh oh is he burt?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
This is only lunch number one for him and Bert
will be on number four by now.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You know what, He'll bring a box. It's like a restaurant.
He'll bring the box down here with a take home box.
Fred Rogan Rodney Pete Live from Dodger Stadium and five
seventy l a.
Speaker 7 (16:36):
Sports Great Birthday Donut.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Fred Rogan Rodney Pete were live from Dodger Stadium. Sure
there was a bit of confusion. Craig is celebrating his
birthday and somebody brought birthday donuts.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
In here, which was very nice. Yes, they did very nice,
very nice ballers and brute. I guess it's where it
came from.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
And then Matt mney Smith's just showed up. I have
to tell you the story. Yes, I heard'm getting on you, Fred.
What was that about? He says, do you mind if
I post a picture of your truck? And I went,
why would you do that? And then he took a picture.
I parked in like three parking places? What like? Like
you mean? I was like over over the line and stuff. Well,
I got here nine o'clock this morning, nobody was here.
(17:30):
What was that got doing anything? Because what you got
here early?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
What's that got to do with you parking in three
spots like over the line?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Well, here's that I have to do in anything? Here's
the problem. I shouldn't be allowed to drive a truck
that big. I shouldn't. So you know, when you live
out in the desert, that's how people park. They're old.
They take up three spots. They don't know, they can't
even see. So you're saying you're old. No, I'm saying
they're old. No, I'm saying they're old. And now I've
just kind of morphed into the way they park. I
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thought I'd got a hell of a job, to be
very honest with you. You thought you did. Yeah, I
didn't hit anything, so I thought I did great. Fred.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
You got here at nine o'clock. The game's at six.
There's nobody here. How do you even get get close
to anybody?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Well? I was concerned that there would be people there
when we left, and I'd run into somebody, all right,
thrilling her name? This is here, Hello, Dylan, How are
you good? How are you good?
Speaker 6 (18:24):
I don't know what I just walked in on.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
That sounded interesting, same thing, you know, Fred is Fred,
Fred's me and Fred Island.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
I wish I had known he park like that. I
would have, like, you know, they should have kind of
pinned him in on his door side there.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Right, box him in box and we can't get out,
all right, Dylan?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
So last night, you know, you wrote about it. This morning,
we've been talking about it for weeks. Aren't we to
a point now where there's no more bullpen? Aren't we
to a point now where let's say Snell starts, he
goes six, Shean comes in and just closes the game.
Aren't we there yet?
Speaker 8 (18:54):
I think so, you know, and right, and kind of
at the end of the column, I kind of spelled
out what I felt were their options. They're all starting pitchers,
right she And you know Dave Roberts said yesterday glassnown
will be in the bullpen today, you know, Roki Sasaki.
And then I think you got to look at guys
like Yamamoto and Snell, you know when right between their starts,
instead of their usual bullpen sessions, you maybe just have
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him thrown inning in relief.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
Yeah, we are at that point for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I mean this is scary, Yeah, it really is. Now
they're firing on all cylinders, starting pitching outstanding. They're hitting
the ball now, and you would think this team has
no achilles, but it has a major achilles. I just
don't know. And it's got to be a tough spot
for Dave Roberts. I don't know who you put in anymore.
You put any of those guys in, it could all
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go to hell.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
Yeah, it really can, because you know you're asking them
to do something that they've you know, maybe haven't done before,
or you know, in some cases haven't done it in
a very long time.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Right.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
I mean Tyler glassnow did start out his career as
a reliever, so he has some experience doing this. Yamamoto,
we needs a rookie and Japan pitched in relief. But
these other guys, you know, until you know, he came
out in pitching relief in triple A. Last time he
had pitchion relief was in middle school.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Right.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
You know, I'm guessing a lot of these other guys
haven't done it at all, And right now it's kind
of guesswork. You know, you talk to Emma she Han, Uh,
he seems very confident, right, And so I think Dave
Roberts kind of looks at that, and that's probably why
he's pretty bullish on that idea. You know, I asked
she and you know yesterday, Uh, you know, do you
ever close in college? And he tells me, oh, I
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was terrible in college. I had no idea where the
ball was going. They wouldn't have been closed, you know.
And so you can read that both ways. Right, on
one hand, he has a confidence to kind of make
fun of himself.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
On the other hand, he hasn't. He really hasn't done this.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
So yeah, so they get past this series, Dylan, and
does does Kershall become a part of that equation as
a guy coming out of the pen?
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (20:50):
I mean, you know, in the middle of that eighth inning,
that that unexpectedly scary eighth inning last night. Yeah, right,
the bases were loaded, and you're right, and they start
walking guys in. You start thinking, like, you know what,
Clayton Kershaw will look really good in the situation, right
because at least you know he's going to throw the
ball over the plate, you know. And Roberts has kind
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of talked about this for weeks.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Now about you know, maybe.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
A lot of these guys in the pen are just
kind of they've lost confidence, right, and now they're starting
to kind of nibble. And when you start to nibble,
you start missing. You know, you want somebody that's just
going to come in and just like attack, and you
know Kershaw will at least do that. Now, the problem
with Kershaw is that, you know, you look at his
you know, you look back on a season the first
inning was his worst inning, right, So I do think
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they're gonna be There will be some you know, reservations
of kind of throwing them in, you know, like say
like a ninth inning or something. Right, but given what
your alternatives are right now, it might not be the
worst choice.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Real quick, are you surprised that Benda's not on this
this opening wild card?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Roster.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
You know, I think there's going to be you know,
they obviously they you know, they they loved kind of
the lefty, righty stuff. You know, I think there's a chance,
for example, that you know, say, like a guy like Sasaki,
maybe he isn't on the roster like in the next round.
You know, Philly's got a lot of left handed hitters.
But yeah, I was a little bit surprised. But that said,
you know, I think you know, you look at say,
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let's take Vessia, right, who's probably like the most trustworthy.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
That they have. You know, he had a career high
untiar last night.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
You know, well I think you kind of started to
see it in the last week of the regular season,
right where it's kind of like, okay, he looks like
he might be running out of gas here, That's what
I think. Yeah, And that's the thing, right, He's he's
had a career high in appearances, and you know, Bonbas
pitched a ton this year, so you know, maybe giving
him a series off like this one, you know, isn't
the worst idea, especially given that it's let's be honest,
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it's the Reds, right, I mean, this were another team.
Maybe they don't have that eight run lead going into
that inning, and it's kind of a whole different story here.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
They kind of have a bit of a free pass
here in a way.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
I don't think, you know, again, the Reds didn't put
up that much resistance last night.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Do you does your heart jump into your throat as
a fan when they go to the bullpen now and
I don't care who comes out?
Speaker 8 (23:06):
Yeah, and I think you know, I mean, it was again,
it was very telling that. I mean, we didn't know, right,
Roberts didn't know that Bessio was going to kind of
go out there and lay an egg last night. But
the fact that he went to his most trusted guy
in the eighth inning with an eighth inning lead tells
you everything that you need to know about this bullpen.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Right.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
It's like, I'm not going to mess around with Tanner Scott.
We're going to go right to our most We've got
to make sure we close this thing out.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
He went to his most trusted guy.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
Then obviously when that kind of fails, yeah, now it's
kind of panic time, and I think, uh, you know,
we're at the point where, you know, a month ago again,
Roki Sasaki was nowhere near, you know, being on the
playoff roster radar, and the fact that now I'm looking
at him thinking, hey, you know what, he might be
their best late inning option again says a lot of
where this team is right now.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, you mentioned Tanner Scott, how is he even used
in the playoffs?
Speaker 8 (23:57):
I mean that's a that's a great question. I mean,
if you're losing by ten runs and you just need
somebody to burn innings, Because again, if you can't use
him in the situation last night where you're up by eight,
that says a lot, right, And yeah, I'm.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Really not sure.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I can't.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
I can't imagine them possibly going to him in any
kind of leverage type of situation, you know, I think.
I mean, in his defense, I do think, right, what
made him so good last year was the fact that
the Potters deployed him against left handed hitters, right, So
Tani came up, he came in right. I mean right,
all four at bats last year that they faced each other,
Scott got him out and then you know, you kind
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of have to pitch carefully to Bookie and then you
attack Freeman, right, And that's what got him this big contract,
you know, Unfortunately this year, I think, you know, coming
out of camp they didn't have an established closer. They
move him into this closer role. So now he's facing
both lefty and righty, gets starts getting hit around a
little bit. Now, all of a sudden, this kind of snowballs, right,
And I think that that's kind of the situation that
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a lot of these guys are in, even the guys
that were pitching well, you know, through some wretches of
the season, I do think they've gotten tired now, you know,
And it's yeah, it's a treading water type of situation again,
I think that there. It's again, it's very telling that,
you know, probably the guys that have the most trust
right now are like the starting pitchers that they might
be able to use in relief.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah. And last year they had to excuse me, last
year they had to reconstruct things. They had to use
bullpen games because they didn'tybody starters, all right, So just
change it up again this year. This year you used
starters as bullpen guys. I do want to see and
I wish we would have seen it last night. And
Rodney pointed this out earlier, and I'm surprised they didn't
do it. I do want to see Sazaki hopefully tonight.
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We've got to see what he can do in the situation.
Speaker 8 (25:38):
Yeah, I think so, because again, the stuff is just
so good, right, and the question is going to be
is more from like the mental standpoint, you know, Kenny
Kenny deal with kind of pitching in that high leverage
type of situation because if he can, I mean, he's
looked I think phenomenal. Right, I mean and even in
Seattle when he gave up that double two rose arena,
he had to get cal ralely right and he struck
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him out to get out of that jam.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:02):
From like a tough standpoint, From a talent standpoint, I mean,
this is a Rokie Sasaki. I think that we saw
in Japan. This was this was a guy that we
thought the Dodgers were getting. Obviously, you know, whatever it was,
the adjustment, the different baseball whatever. You know, obviously the
command wasn't there. But right now, when he's dotting like
the strikes on the way he is right now, I
think he's kind of got The biggest upside is being
like the you know, potentially the most consistent lady in
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the option they have.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, and I was I was hoping last night because
they did have the big lead, just let him come
in and let him, you know, eat in the last
couple of innings if need be. And that being said, tonight,
Yamamoto goes he's dealing like Blake Snell was dealing last night.
Are are they now going to shift to go the
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hell with it? We're gonna let him go? I mean
Snell was what under one hundred pitches, you know, and
when they pulled him out, And if Yamamoto is in
the same situation, do they let him go and just
go finish it?
Speaker 8 (26:58):
I think so, you know, I mean I I don't
think you want to. Well, it kind of depends how
big the leaders, right, I mean, if you're going in
to the ninth inning and you're up by ten runs,
I do think then okay, let Sasaki go, Let she
Hn go, you know. But one thing I think that's
also kind of very telling here by the way, you know,
speaking of Shehn, is the fact that like Roberts is
talking about him more as like a one inning type
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of guy, right instead of being like a multi inning guy.
And that tells you that he doesn't trust, you know,
the trying in the scot right right, and that basically
he's not looking, you know, because my idea with she
Hin was just haven't followed either Snell or Otani and
just finish that game exactly, okay, you know, pitch the
last three innings. But this tells you that they're thinking,
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you know what, he might have to pitch back to
back days. He might have to pitch three out of
four games, right, and they can't just use him as
like a one shot bullet type thing because they don't
have enough arms to cover all the innings, you know.
So again, I think that that's kind of a very
telling of just what their situation is right now. And
I don't I don't envy Dave roberts Man. He's earning
in his money this supposed season.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So you think Shan could ultimately turn out to be
the closer.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
Yeah, yeah, I think, you know, between she and uh Sasaki,
I mean, I think you even gotta throw Kershe on
there for the next round, right. I mean, I don't
think there's going to ever be kind of like a
one set guy, you know. I think when you're goin
to get to that seven, eight, nine inning part, it's
going to be the guy that you're throwing a guesst
like the best part of their lineup, right, and so
up to this point that guy has been Vessia, right,
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and you know, sometimes it's the eighth inning whatever that Okay,
these are when the guys are coming up. Let's let's
deploy him there. But again, Vessia is looking a little shaky,
you know. To me, it looks like it's going to
have to be either Sihan or Sasaki.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Well, thanks for coming over here and hanging man. We appreciated, Dylan. No,
thank you. And I hit the ballpark early, man, I
love it.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
Yeah, no, and I enjoyed hearing about all the parking stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, avoid that truck in the parking lot. Yeah for
taking up eight spaces. All right, thanks Dylan, No, thank you.
All right, Bred Rug and Rodney Pete. We're back to
wrap it up at the stadium on a five seventy
LA Sports.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Would let us do that?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, very solid work, very solid.
Speaker 9 (29:11):
We're back, solid solid, Fred solid, Oh live live, we
are live here at Dodger Stadium. Yes, they are trickling
out on the field, the Dodgers and the Reds for
Game two.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Of the Wild Card Series.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Uh A little less energetic Fred fro the Reds as
opposed to yesterday.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, not as many of them out.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, you know they know sunbathing well, Gavin Lutz out
here sun bathing a little bit.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Gavin Lutz was out here. Yeah, but they know what's coming.
I'm sure they're in the clubhouse just packing up, now,
are they? Yeah? I just need one, you know, just
give me my jersey. I'm good, just packing up. What
about the West Coast guys, do you think they're staying? Oh,
that would be it, right, Like when you played in
the NFL, we're out of it.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, you knew you made a West Coast trip at
the end of the season. You already had your bags back,
and you're like, I'm not getting on that plane going back.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I'm just gonna go home. Yeah, some guys could stay.
Why not, they're already here. Interesting, Yeah, beautiful Blue Heaven yep.
So Yamamoto goes tonight. And thanks to Dylan Hernandez for
hanging out. And you know, I think he did a
very good job of explaining where the Dodger pitching situation is,
where the bullpen is. I think everybody's in agreement with that.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, you know, there's no allusions as to do you
go to the bullpen in high leverage or now that
you've got Shean and Glass now and Kershaw probably the
next series available to be guys.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
That come out of the bullpen. You know that's where
it's gonna go. Because I mean, even in.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
The easiest of situations last night, when they're rolling and
it got scary, that's that's got to concern you. Right,
And then tonight, how long does Yamamoto go? They may
let him complete the game? Yeah, Well, and Dolan Hernandez
agreed with you on that. Now you just go you're
not coming out. No, if you're about to get knocked
(31:07):
out of the game, we'll come get you. But if not,
you're one hundred and fifteen picks. He's coming out of
the pen. It's gonna better than you.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Well, right, And the only answer which he had, which
Dave Roberts kind of alluded to, which if you think
about it, is kind of scary. We thought, let Amagen
go two three innings and just finish it. That's not
what they're thinking. What they're thinking is Emage Sheen will
come in for one inning. He could become the closer here. Yeah,
and look, and the setup guy for Shean could be Sazaki.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Look, there's a lot of ways to skin the cat, right.
They did it last year with the bullpen, and now
it's different because it's starting pitching is the strength of
this team. And now you've got some starting pitchers that
are going to come out of the pen, which is
why when we talked to Andrew Friedman yesterday, what they
did in the off season was strengthened the starting pitching.
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So this situation, this scenario allows them that flexibility. This
is great, all right, Craig, happy birthday, and thank you again.
Dave we twenty nine Internet. Matt is out here, Blackamo
is out here. Brian. Good to see Brian. I haven't
seen him in a while. I said, why are you
even here?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
It's good to see the execs.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Wait wait, Blackamo said, yeah, once you come into the
office and maybe you see him a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
You know, every time I come in, you're not there.
Every time I'm trying to get you back. Now you're
gonna come at me. The hell with you, blackamou Ronnie,
thank you back in the studio. Really appreciate it. Kevin,
thank you as well. All right, Dodgers can wrap it
up tonight. One. We're not sure exactly what time we'll
be on tomorrow, to be honest with you, if the
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Dodgers win, we're on noon de three. Just put it
like that. So soon we'll be on at noon tomorrow,
because there's no way I think they're gonna lose tonight,
so we're always on at noon. But if they if
they lost, there was a possibility to nine am. Oh yeah, yeah,
but as soon we'll be on our normal time. I
don't even know the time now. He sent out an
email with like nine hundred possibilities. But see, at least
we read your email. Yeah I did. I told me
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I didn't even I don't read I don't read Black
of Mo's email. You don't even have an email. You
wouldn't even know what was going on, all right, Pet Drew,
somebody your next
And we continue on from Dodger Stadium. Fred Rogan Rodney
Pete on AM five seventy LA Sports. I gotta tell you,
Rodney's we sit out here. Brian Blackamo showed up.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Today, our guy Bla Blackamo. Blackamo runs the station. Yeah
he does, Yeah he does. If we could do this
every day, if we could do this too every day.
We told him, folks, we are so lucky to be here.
And I know there's not a lot going on in
the field, but to be here on a day where
the Dodgers are in the playoffs and they'll beat.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The Reds tonight. I told you that before the series
even started. It's just very cool.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I think you think that it's last night was really
the Reds only shot to kind of have a shot
at this series starting Hunter Green opening, you know, opening
the series Game one, and if they performed well, they
had a shot to win. If Hunter Green was on,
they got a shot to go, you know, keep it close.
(01:00):
And it didn't happen. Everything that could go wrong for
the Reds went wrong last night. And now you think
it's it's it's over now Dodgers jump out to the
lead tonight it's over. They should just call the game
in the sixth sooner, so they don't have to go
to the late rules.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, right, so they don't have to go to the room. Yeah,
just call it. I'm telling you, Dodgers got ahead tonight.
It's done. There's no way. I mean, because Cincinnati had
their brains beaten last night and the only reason it
was close was really demoralized. Yeah they did. And even
though you get excited and you think, oh hey we
came back, we you know, we mounted a threat. You
didn't threaten anybody, not really, right. I mean tonight, Yamamota
(01:38):
will pitch and what are you gonna bang out nine
runs off him? I don't think so eight runs off him?
I don't think so not gonna have six runs. No,
it's not gonna happen. And it's not because you know, look,
the Reds are just not the Dodgers. They're not the Dodgers.
They made the playoffs, but I mean, you know, they're
playing the monster here, and I think the Dodgers will
take care of business.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I said this last night in our string that that
the Dodgers just they put everybody on notice, and I
think everybody. It's what people feared the beginning of the
season when the Dodgers put together this roster that it's
just it is really a super team if healthy, with
the pitching staff and then the lineup that that they got.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Do you feel now people watching that game last night go.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh man, now they're healthy and they got everything going
for him.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
The only thing, the only chance we have is to
get us to the bullpen. I think people watching look
exactly like that. Now they go uh oh, but there's
an achilles. Yeah. If the bullpen was like last year's bullpen,
then no one would think the Dodgers could get beat.
Now they're healthy. Tommy Edman had a home run for god.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
He just came back. Yeah, like, oh god, they're all back.
Key k has been hot. Now he's back. And now
now where's the whole right, there's no home where? Yeah,
where's the weakness?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
The only problem is the bullpen, because if the bullpen
was as it was last year, I don't think anybody
anybody would think the Dodgers could get beat And correct
me if I'm wrong. Aren't the Phillies now the favorites? Yeah?
I think they are. Yeah, yeah, And I have to
tell you this, and I know that people are gonna
go Lie, you're a homer. I've said it long before
(03:25):
we got to this point. I think the Phillies are
really good. I think there should be a lot of
concern about the Phillies. I think the Dodgers are going
to beat the Phillies, and I don't think that's the
World Series. Yeah, and I don't think it's a seven
game series. I don't think it's a seven game series.
I think they'll beat the Phillies. They'll beat the Phillies
because the last time they played the Phillies. Remember the key,
(03:47):
the Dodgers hit their pitching. The Dodgers hit. Now the
Dodgers and they're missing. Phillies are missing their ace too. Yeah,
so they hit their better pitchers. They hit them, they
saw them, they hit them. So why are they not
going to hit him this time? Right now? They didn't
have Trey Turner. He's back, ball will be back, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And they played them without a full healthy pitching staff,
right well, right.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Why why won't they beat the Phillies.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
By the way, for it, I can guarantee you won't
go seven.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You know why? That's five?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I guarantee that too. You're right, it's five my dad.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
My dad, it won't even go five, right, it was?
So is it? Is it key?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Given that scenario and playing the Phillies in the five
game series? You know, uh important for the Dodgers to
close it tonight, yes, Jamoto? Yeah, so they don't have
to go to Otani or you know, Otani slated to
go tomorrow if if need be, or even Glass now
(04:52):
if need be. So how important is it for the
Dodgers to close this out without having to use Otani?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Getting ready for the Philly series? Oh, it's it's very
important because we looked earlier, Kevin. It's Saturday Monday Division series, right.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Right, there's a game off between game one and game two.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
That's okay, So they won't play during the NFL. So
it's Saturday Monday in Philly. So you've got Otani to start,
and that's who will start Game one against Philly. Now
you play Monday. Snell pitched yesterday, So what is it Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
sixth game Monday, Yeah, six games? He can go Monday, yeah,
(05:31):
oh Tani, Snell?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, even Yamamoto would have a five day, six day
rest because they have to fly. Yeah, and then they'll
be here for two like Wednesday Thursday, so Yamamoto can go.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, and you don't use glass now Kershaw will be
on on that roster.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So yeah for the Dodgers, as you know, he didn't
like this series, it is also important for them to
win tonight.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, just that gives everybody a little more breathing room here.
So because then if you look at the rotation, so
we know the first three are going to go, and
then it comes down to who goes games a curl,
you're saying, you're, you're you're you're saying.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Oh, if the Dodgers win to night, because Otani was
slated to go tomorrow night, if it's a Game three,
that if the Dodgers close it out tonight, Otani starts
Game one against Philly. Wouldn't you do that? I'm asking you.
You said that, you think you think that that's how
it goes.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, I would. What are you holding him for Saturday? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You give him an extra extra well, even have an
even pitch, so he's got all the rest.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And then Snell can go on nowdays you can go, Yeah,
he can go on Monday. You can go back to
the original rotation. You're back in Yamamoto and then Otani.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So you go, oh, well he wouldn't go in game four, well,
because he wouldn't have enough rest. Well, he would go Saturday,
and then he said it's Saturday Monday, and then so
Saturday and then Monday would be Snell. Okay, right, and
if it's I'm assuming it's Tuesday in Philly. No, no, no,
(07:22):
Tuesday is a flight off day here. Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Wednesday Thursday, so Wednesday would be Yamamoto. And then you
go back to Tani or or Kershaw or Glass. You
haven't pitched Glass, now you haven't pitched she In. Yeah,
you haven't pitched.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Any of them. So it is important they win tonight
and close it out. Yeah, it's very important. So uh
so I do want to talk here Rodney for a
second about the Angels. Yes, oh, before that, Before that,
we'll get to the Angels. Let's do this real quick.
Boston can eliminate the Yankees tonight and in New York.
(08:01):
In New York, so if you remember earlier in the year,
way early in the year, the Red Sox were like
sputtering and weren't playing well, and there were problems, and
they made a move and a lot of their fans thought,
what are you doing? How could you make a move
like this? I mean, you've just given away the franchise.
They traded Raphael Devers to the Giants.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Right, the big controversy with bringing in Bregman and Bregman
and Devs. If people don't remember, Devers was the third
baseman for Boston, right, So they signed Bregman to a
big deal to come to Boston and slated him to
play third base.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Right, and they whatever, what side do you ever?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You believe Devers was not aware of this and didn't
know that that's what the situation was. And they wanted
to try to work Devers in plan first base, maybe
just being the DH. He was not happy about that
and showed this from stration. Refused to play first base,
and they dealt him.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Right, He had an attitude problem, put it like that,
and he was The culture was ruined and everybody was fighting.
So they traded him. They traded their best player. They
made the playoffs. They traded their best player, their franchise player,
the guy they spent all this money for years, like
a monky deal. They traded him and they made the playoffs.
That talks about how important culture is. Culture chemistry, which
(09:28):
the Dodgers, by the way, have mastered. But I just
found that really fascinating thinking about it last night. If
you go back, they thought they had just blown up
their fans thought they'd blown up the entire team. Yeah,
how do you do that? How can you do that?
You know, that'd be like in the minds of fans here.
They traded Otani and you go, how can you do that?
(09:48):
They made the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, Like Otani refused to play first base or right field.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Right, so we're going to trade him. Yeah, but they
then they still made the playoffs. It was really interesting.
All right, let's do Angels real quick. Ron Washington is
not coming back as manager. You know, he had a
bypass surgery last year and the team was playing okay
with him, but he had to go on medical league.
Somebody filled in for him, and the Angel decided it's
(10:15):
seventy four years old, he's not coming back. They were
quick to point out that it had nothing to do
with his health, and you go, oh, that was kind. No,
that was legal. There was nothing other than they covered themselves. Legally,
you can't fire somebody for a health problem. So they
made the decision. I think he meet like seven million
a year or something, and they get rid of them, which,
(10:37):
of course, the Angels, by the way, one of the
worst teams in baseball, one of the worst teams in
the American League, with one of the worst farm systems.
Every year they say they're going to do something, they
do nothing. So now there's a report, there's a report.
This would be so typical that Andrew Albert Poolhols has
his personal services agreement with Ardi Moreno and he signed.
(11:00):
He got that when he signed with the club, right,
so he signed and then he has his personal services
and it's kind of an ambassadory goes around, he talks
to people. If already needs him to speak at something,
he shows up. He's getting paid. There's a report that
they're considering him to be the manager. Pools pulls, well, hell,
(11:21):
we're already paid him. Why not. He's here. Albert get
in here. You understand how bad the Angels are.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
And Albert no offense, not like managed or coached or
did anything, not at like a minor league assistant or
anything like that at all.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Albert get in here. You manage the club. You know
what you're going on the road trips anyway, you might
as well just put on a uniform and sit in
there make some decisions. Do you, honest to God, have
any idea how awful the angels are? Can you appreciate
the absurdity of all of it? The answer is not
hiring Albert Poolholes. The answer is investing in an infrastructure
(12:06):
so you can build a winning team. That's what the
answer to the question is. The answer is not, well,
we'll just put Albert in there. Who wants that job?
Who's going to take that job? Who wants to be
the manager of a team that does not invest in
the team? Who? And that's not saying we're not saying
that Albert can't.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Be successful, but it's hard for him to be successful
in that situation.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I'll put it like this. If the Dodger said they
wanted to make Albert pool Hols manager, I go, my god,
that's a brilliant idea. Everybody loves him, He's got a
lot of respect, he knows the game. If the Agers
want to make Albert Poolhols and manager, I go, what
the hell are you thinking? There is no way that
he could ever manage your club because he's putting a
no win situation. But just for them to even think
(12:54):
that way. They had Joe Madden, which is by all
accounts the most likable guy ever, and they took him out,
and they took him out. Yeah, that was it for him.
I don't know how they do business. By the way,
one of the Reds is out here now and he
has no shirt on. He's just walking around barefeet, no
shirt talking. Who's that Dodger he's talking? Probably a former teammate,
(13:19):
tat it up. That's all good. It's a little different
vibe than it was yesterday, Fred, it really is.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
There were a lot of folks out here at this
time yesterday for Game one.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Right now? Are you thinking that it's red? You're like,
this is the Swan song? This is it? Yeah, that's
what I told you guys.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I'll say now, my my Lacey is starting to feel
me in my older years here.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
But I think that might be Gavin looks.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
Actually, is that what?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I think? That's gay?
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Because Gavin looks, I know, has some ink. Oh, you're right, Kevin,
And he was. He was doing some stretches down here,
down the first place and the ground. Yeah, he was
kind of yelling at one of the groundskeepers for who was,
you know, just kind of spraying down some water. Now
I thought he was being serious. It seems like he
was more just in, you know, just lighthearted. So he
got up, walked over, and now he's talking to another Dodger.
(14:05):
I don't know if that's a player or an official.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It looks like a player, you know, based on his
his look and his hoodie and and he's also got
no socks, no shoes on, and and and feeling the
ground and what we call it grounding, grounding, rounding. And
then we've got another red who's laying down sonning. He's sonning.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Okay, all right now let me right field, thanks for
pointing that out. Let me say this. Yesterday there was
a guy laying out there. Okay, fine, he's relaxing. This
guy's got a shirt off, you actually think short the beach.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Shorts, no shoes, no socks, shirt off. And he's yeah,
laying down on the grass on a on a bag
of gloves, balls whatever it may be, as his pillow
and his phone. He's looking at his phone. He's at
the beach, Yes, he is at the beach. Got his
bottom water right next to them. A lot of guys
(15:03):
ready for the game tonight. Hey, Fred, listen, listen. Guys
get ready in different ways. So I'm not knocking anybody
how they get ready. And we're sitting here, what five
hours before the game? Four hours before the game. There's
a lot of things that happened before the game. There's
routines that guys go through. So whatever works for you
(15:24):
works for you. Okay, that doesn't mean it's gonna be
great or not great. So I'm not knocking the guy.
You know, there's a lot of guys that meditate and
do different things before the game.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Okay, Well, we saw a couple of them laying out yesterday,
not without their shirt on, checking their phone, but we
saw a couple of them laying out yesterday, right, So
that's what they do to get ready. It didn't work.
It didn't work for them last night.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, But you don't change something because one game, Fred,
If that's your routine, you do your routine, and if
it didn't work last night, you don't just say, oh,
that didn't work last night, it changed my whole routine. No,
your routine is your roote team. You don't change it.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Okay, Well, he'll have a lot of time for his routine. Oh,
starting tomorrow. Wow, when we come back, Dylan Hernandez of
The Times is going to jump in here.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Our good buddy, he's right there where is Just swivel
your head to the left a little bit, and he's
sitting right there in the press box.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I think it's Jack Harris.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
He might be sitting next to Oh okay, so Dylan
knows to come down here.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yes, even though it looks like we might be interrupting
his lunch.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
But that's oh oh is he burt?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
This is only lunch number one for him and Bert
will be on number four by now.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You know what, He'll bring a box. It's like a restaurant.
He'll bring the box down here with a take home box.
Fred Rogan Rodney Pete Live from Dodger Stadium and five
seventy l a.
Speaker 7 (16:36):
Sports Great Birthday Donut.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Fred Rogan Rodney Pete were live from Dodger Stadium. Sure
there was a bit of confusion. Craig is celebrating his
birthday and somebody brought birthday donuts.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
In here, which was very nice. Yes, they did very nice,
very nice ballers and brute. I guess it's where it
came from.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
And then Matt mney Smith's just showed up. I have
to tell you the story. Yes, I heard'm getting on you, Fred.
What was that about? He says, do you mind if
I post a picture of your truck? And I went,
why would you do that? And then he took a picture.
I parked in like three parking places? What like? Like
you mean? I was like over over the line and stuff. Well,
I got here nine o'clock this morning, nobody was here.
(17:30):
What was that got doing anything? Because what you got
here early?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
What's that got to do with you parking in three
spots like over the line?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Well, here's that I have to do in anything? Here's
the problem. I shouldn't be allowed to drive a truck
that big. I shouldn't. So you know, when you live
out in the desert, that's how people park. They're old.
They take up three spots. They don't know, they can't
even see. So you're saying you're old. No, I'm saying
they're old. No, I'm saying they're old. And now I've
just kind of morphed into the way they park. I
(18:01):
thought I'd got a hell of a job, to be
very honest with you. You thought you did. Yeah, I
didn't hit anything, so I thought I did great. Fred.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
You got here at nine o'clock. The game's at six.
There's nobody here. How do you even get get close
to anybody?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Well? I was concerned that there would be people there
when we left, and I'd run into somebody, all right,
thrilling her name? This is here, Hello, Dylan, How are
you good? How are you good?
Speaker 6 (18:24):
I don't know what I just walked in on.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
That sounded interesting, same thing, you know, Fred is Fred,
Fred's me and Fred Island.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
I wish I had known he park like that. I
would have, like, you know, they should have kind of
pinned him in on his door side there.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Right, box him in box and we can't get out,
all right, Dylan?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
So last night, you know, you wrote about it. This morning,
we've been talking about it for weeks. Aren't we to
a point now where there's no more bullpen? Aren't we
to a point now where let's say Snell starts, he
goes six, Shean comes in and just closes the game.
Aren't we there yet?
Speaker 8 (18:54):
I think so, you know, and right, and kind of
at the end of the column, I kind of spelled
out what I felt were their options. They're all starting pitchers,
right she And you know Dave Roberts said yesterday glassnown
will be in the bullpen today, you know, Roki Sasaki.
And then I think you got to look at guys
like Yamamoto and Snell, you know when right between their starts,
instead of their usual bullpen sessions, you maybe just have
(19:15):
him thrown inning in relief.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
Yeah, we are at that point for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I mean this is scary, Yeah, it really is. Now
they're firing on all cylinders, starting pitching outstanding. They're hitting
the ball now, and you would think this team has
no achilles, but it has a major achilles. I just
don't know. And it's got to be a tough spot
for Dave Roberts. I don't know who you put in anymore.
You put any of those guys in, it could all
(19:40):
go to hell.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
Yeah, it really can, because you know you're asking them
to do something that they've you know, maybe haven't done before,
or you know, in some cases haven't done it in
a very long time.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Right.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
I mean Tyler glassnow did start out his career as
a reliever, so he has some experience doing this. Yamamoto,
we needs a rookie and Japan pitched in relief. But
these other guys, you know, until you know, he came
out in pitching relief in triple A. Last time he
had pitchion relief was in middle school.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Right.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
You know, I'm guessing a lot of these other guys
haven't done it at all, And right now it's kind
of guesswork. You know, you talk to Emma she Han, Uh,
he seems very confident, right, And so I think Dave
Roberts kind of looks at that, and that's probably why
he's pretty bullish on that idea. You know, I asked
she and you know yesterday, Uh, you know, do you
ever close in college? And he tells me, oh, I
(20:27):
was terrible in college. I had no idea where the
ball was going. They wouldn't have been closed, you know.
And so you can read that both ways. Right, on
one hand, he has a confidence to kind of make
fun of himself.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
On the other hand, he hasn't. He really hasn't done this.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
So yeah, so they get past this series, Dylan, and
does does Kershall become a part of that equation as
a guy coming out of the pen?
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (20:50):
I mean, you know, in the middle of that eighth inning,
that that unexpectedly scary eighth inning last night. Yeah, right,
the bases were loaded, and you're right, and they start
walking guys in. You start thinking, like, you know what,
Clayton Kershaw will look really good in the situation, right
because at least you know he's going to throw the
ball over the plate, you know. And Roberts has kind
(21:10):
of talked about this for weeks.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Now about you know, maybe.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
A lot of these guys in the pen are just
kind of they've lost confidence, right, and now they're starting
to kind of nibble. And when you start to nibble,
you start missing. You know, you want somebody that's just
going to come in and just like attack, and you
know Kershaw will at least do that. Now, the problem
with Kershaw is that, you know, you look at his
you know, you look back on a season the first
inning was his worst inning, right, So I do think
(21:35):
they're gonna be There will be some you know, reservations
of kind of throwing them in, you know, like say
like a ninth inning or something. Right, but given what
your alternatives are right now, it might not be the
worst choice.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Real quick, are you surprised that Benda's not on this
this opening wild card?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Roster.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
You know, I think there's going to be you know,
they obviously they you know, they they loved kind of
the lefty, righty stuff. You know, I think there's a chance,
for example, that you know, say, like a guy like Sasaki,
maybe he isn't on the roster like in the next round.
You know, Philly's got a lot of left handed hitters.
But yeah, I was a little bit surprised. But that said,
you know, I think you know, you look at say,
(22:17):
let's take Vessia, right, who's probably like the most trustworthy.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
That they have. You know, he had a career high
untiar last night.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
You know, well I think you kind of started to
see it in the last week of the regular season,
right where it's kind of like, okay, he looks like
he might be running out of gas here, That's what
I think. Yeah, And that's the thing, right, He's he's
had a career high in appearances, and you know, Bonbas
pitched a ton this year, so you know, maybe giving
him a series off like this one, you know, isn't
the worst idea, especially given that it's let's be honest,
(22:45):
it's the Reds, right, I mean, this were another team.
Maybe they don't have that eight run lead going into
that inning, and it's kind of a whole different story here.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
They kind of have a bit of a free pass
here in a way.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
I don't think, you know, again, the Reds didn't put
up that much resistance last night.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Do you does your heart jump into your throat as
a fan when they go to the bullpen now and
I don't care who comes out?
Speaker 8 (23:06):
Yeah, and I think you know, I mean, it was again,
it was very telling that. I mean, we didn't know, right,
Roberts didn't know that Bessio was going to kind of
go out there and lay an egg last night. But
the fact that he went to his most trusted guy
in the eighth inning with an eighth inning lead tells
you everything that you need to know about this bullpen.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Right.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
It's like, I'm not going to mess around with Tanner Scott.
We're going to go right to our most We've got
to make sure we close this thing out.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
He went to his most trusted guy.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
Then obviously when that kind of fails, yeah, now it's
kind of panic time, and I think, uh, you know,
we're at the point where, you know, a month ago again,
Roki Sasaki was nowhere near, you know, being on the
playoff roster radar, and the fact that now I'm looking
at him thinking, hey, you know what, he might be
their best late inning option again says a lot of
where this team is right now.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, you mentioned Tanner Scott, how is he even used
in the playoffs?
Speaker 8 (23:57):
I mean that's a that's a great question. I mean,
if you're losing by ten runs and you just need
somebody to burn innings, Because again, if you can't use
him in the situation last night where you're up by eight,
that says a lot, right, And yeah, I'm.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Really not sure.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I can't.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
I can't imagine them possibly going to him in any
kind of leverage type of situation, you know, I think.
I mean, in his defense, I do think, right, what
made him so good last year was the fact that
the Potters deployed him against left handed hitters, right, So
Tani came up, he came in right. I mean right,
all four at bats last year that they faced each other,
Scott got him out and then you know, you kind
(24:35):
of have to pitch carefully to Bookie and then you
attack Freeman, right, And that's what got him this big contract,
you know, Unfortunately this year, I think, you know, coming
out of camp they didn't have an established closer. They
move him into this closer role. So now he's facing
both lefty and righty, gets starts getting hit around a
little bit. Now, all of a sudden, this kind of snowballs, right,
And I think that that's kind of the situation that
(24:55):
a lot of these guys are in, even the guys
that were pitching well, you know, through some wretches of
the season, I do think they've gotten tired now, you know,
And it's yeah, it's a treading water type of situation again,
I think that there. It's again, it's very telling that,
you know, probably the guys that have the most trust
right now are like the starting pitchers that they might
be able to use in relief.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah. And last year they had to excuse me, last
year they had to reconstruct things. They had to use
bullpen games because they didn'tybody starters, all right, So just
change it up again this year. This year you used
starters as bullpen guys. I do want to see and
I wish we would have seen it last night. And
Rodney pointed this out earlier, and I'm surprised they didn't
do it. I do want to see Sazaki hopefully tonight.
(25:36):
We've got to see what he can do in the situation.
Speaker 8 (25:38):
Yeah, I think so, because again, the stuff is just
so good, right, and the question is going to be
is more from like the mental standpoint, you know, Kenny
Kenny deal with kind of pitching in that high leverage
type of situation because if he can, I mean, he's
looked I think phenomenal. Right, I mean and even in
Seattle when he gave up that double two rose arena,
he had to get cal ralely right and he struck
(25:59):
him out to get out of that jam.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:02):
From like a tough standpoint, From a talent standpoint, I mean,
this is a Rokie Sasaki. I think that we saw
in Japan. This was this was a guy that we
thought the Dodgers were getting. Obviously, you know, whatever it was,
the adjustment, the different baseball whatever. You know, obviously the
command wasn't there. But right now, when he's dotting like
the strikes on the way he is right now, I
think he's kind of got The biggest upside is being
like the you know, potentially the most consistent lady in
(26:23):
the option they have.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, and I was I was hoping last night because
they did have the big lead, just let him come
in and let him, you know, eat in the last
couple of innings if need be. And that being said, tonight,
Yamamoto goes he's dealing like Blake Snell was dealing last night.
Are are they now going to shift to go the
(26:47):
hell with it? We're gonna let him go? I mean
Snell was what under one hundred pitches, you know, and
when they pulled him out, And if Yamamoto is in
the same situation, do they let him go and just
go finish it?
Speaker 8 (26:58):
I think so, you know, I mean I I don't
think you want to. Well, it kind of depends how
big the leaders, right, I mean, if you're going in
to the ninth inning and you're up by ten runs,
I do think then okay, let Sasaki go, Let she
Hn go, you know. But one thing I think that's
also kind of very telling here by the way, you know,
speaking of Shehn, is the fact that like Roberts is
talking about him more as like a one inning type
(27:18):
of guy, right instead of being like a multi inning guy.
And that tells you that he doesn't trust, you know,
the trying in the scot right right, and that basically
he's not looking, you know, because my idea with she
Hin was just haven't followed either Snell or Otani and
just finish that game exactly, okay, you know, pitch the
last three innings. But this tells you that they're thinking,
(27:42):
you know what, he might have to pitch back to
back days. He might have to pitch three out of
four games, right, and they can't just use him as
like a one shot bullet type thing because they don't
have enough arms to cover all the innings, you know.
So again, I think that that's kind of a very
telling of just what their situation is right now. And
I don't I don't envy Dave roberts Man. He's earning
in his money this supposed season.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So you think Shan could ultimately turn out to be
the closer.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
Yeah, yeah, I think, you know, between she and uh Sasaki,
I mean, I think you even gotta throw Kershe on
there for the next round, right. I mean, I don't
think there's going to ever be kind of like a
one set guy, you know. I think when you're goin
to get to that seven, eight, nine inning part, it's
going to be the guy that you're throwing a guesst
like the best part of their lineup, right, and so
up to this point that guy has been Vessia, right,
(28:27):
and you know, sometimes it's the eighth inning whatever that Okay,
these are when the guys are coming up. Let's let's
deploy him there. But again, Vessia is looking a little shaky,
you know. To me, it looks like it's going to
have to be either Sihan or Sasaki.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Well, thanks for coming over here and hanging man. We appreciated, Dylan. No,
thank you. And I hit the ballpark early, man, I
love it.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
Yeah, no, and I enjoyed hearing about all the parking stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, avoid that truck in the parking lot. Yeah for
taking up eight spaces. All right, thanks Dylan, No, thank you.
All right, Bred Rug and Rodney Pete. We're back to
wrap it up at the stadium on a five seventy
LA Sports.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Would let us do that?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, very solid work, very solid.
Speaker 9 (29:11):
We're back, solid solid, Fred solid, Oh live live, we
are live here at Dodger Stadium. Yes, they are trickling
out on the field, the Dodgers and the Reds for
Game two.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Of the Wild Card Series.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Uh A little less energetic Fred fro the Reds as
opposed to yesterday.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, not as many of them out.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, you know they know sunbathing well, Gavin Lutz out
here sun bathing a little bit.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Gavin Lutz was out here. Yeah, but they know what's coming.
I'm sure they're in the clubhouse just packing up, now,
are they? Yeah? I just need one, you know, just
give me my jersey. I'm good, just packing up. What
about the West Coast guys, do you think they're staying? Oh,
that would be it, right, Like when you played in
the NFL, we're out of it.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, you knew you made a West Coast trip at
the end of the season. You already had your bags back,
and you're like, I'm not getting on that plane going back.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I'm just gonna go home. Yeah, some guys could stay.
Why not, they're already here. Interesting, Yeah, beautiful Blue Heaven yep.
So Yamamoto goes tonight. And thanks to Dylan Hernandez for
hanging out. And you know, I think he did a
very good job of explaining where the Dodger pitching situation is,
where the bullpen is. I think everybody's in agreement with that.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, you know, there's no allusions as to do you
go to the bullpen in high leverage or now that
you've got Shean and Glass now and Kershaw probably the
next series available to be guys.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
That come out of the bullpen. You know that's where
it's gonna go. Because I mean, even in.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
The easiest of situations last night, when they're rolling and
it got scary, that's that's got to concern you. Right,
And then tonight, how long does Yamamoto go? They may
let him complete the game? Yeah, Well, and Dolan Hernandez
agreed with you on that. Now you just go you're
not coming out. No, if you're about to get knocked
(31:07):
out of the game, we'll come get you. But if not,
you're one hundred and fifteen picks. He's coming out of
the pen. It's gonna better than you.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Well, right, And the only answer which he had, which
Dave Roberts kind of alluded to, which if you think
about it, is kind of scary. We thought, let Amagen
go two three innings and just finish it. That's not
what they're thinking. What they're thinking is Emage Sheen will
come in for one inning. He could become the closer here. Yeah,
and look, and the setup guy for Shean could be Sazaki.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Look, there's a lot of ways to skin the cat, right.
They did it last year with the bullpen, and now
it's different because it's starting pitching is the strength of
this team. And now you've got some starting pitchers that
are going to come out of the pen, which is
why when we talked to Andrew Friedman yesterday, what they
did in the off season was strengthened the starting pitching.
(31:56):
So this situation, this scenario allows them that flexibility. This
is great, all right, Craig, happy birthday, and thank you again.
Dave we twenty nine Internet. Matt is out here, Blackamo
is out here. Brian. Good to see Brian. I haven't
seen him in a while. I said, why are you
even here?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
It's good to see the execs.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Wait wait, Blackamo said, yeah, once you come into the
office and maybe you see him a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
You know, every time I come in, you're not there.
Every time I'm trying to get you back. Now you're
gonna come at me. The hell with you, blackamou Ronnie,
thank you back in the studio. Really appreciate it. Kevin,
thank you as well. All right, Dodgers can wrap it
up tonight. One. We're not sure exactly what time we'll
be on tomorrow, to be honest with you, if the
(32:44):
Dodgers win, we're on noon de three. Just put it
like that. So soon we'll be on at noon tomorrow,
because there's no way I think they're gonna lose tonight,
so we're always on at noon. But if they if
they lost, there was a possibility to nine am. Oh yeah, yeah,
but as soon we'll be on our normal time. I
don't even know the time now. He sent out an
email with like nine hundred possibilities. But see, at least
we read your email. Yeah I did. I told me
(33:07):
I didn't even I don't read I don't read Black
of Mo's email. You don't even have an email. You
wouldn't even know what was going on, all right, Pet Drew,
somebody your next
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