October 13, 2025 • 33 mins
Fred and Jonas Knox talk about the hauted hotel in Milwaukee that Mookie Betts refuses to stay in. In the wake of Lebron being out around 4 weeks with sciatica, Fred says he can stay away from the Lakers for as long as he wants.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
All right, we continue on Fred Rogan Jonas Nackson today
for Rodney on Ampop seventy LA Sports, like Snell goes
for the Dodgers tonight game one of the LCS against
the Bullpen.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah. Can I bitch about something I wish you would
the schedule during the Major League Baseball Playoffs?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Okay's here it all right?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, first of all, I don't know why the Dodgers
are playing three o'clock games at home. I don't get it.
I really I don't understand that doesn't it doesn't make
any sense to me. I don't know why they were
the early game and the Brewers Cubs game was the
later game. Like that just seems kind of strange to me,
when when they were rolling that out and then today
you've got both the ALCS, which is coming up in
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about an hour, and then after that you've got Dodgers Brewers.
Can't you just alternate days? Like can't you have one
one day and one the next? Like? What is the
what is this schedule? You're you're a big your big
TV ratings and format honk, Like, explain to me the
rationale behind what they're doing with the MLB playoffs.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well, First of all, tonight is game two of the ALCS. Yes, okay,
so they are a day ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, So but like you can't go every other.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Day, Well I guess you could. I'm sure there's a
reason they don't. If you went every other day, the
thing would go on even longer.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The Mariners just played a six hour game the other night, right,
Their pictures through like four hundred pitches in that game.
You roll them out two days later and then the
very next day, Like I just it doesn't make any sense.
Just space it out a little bit. Like the NLCS
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is today, the ALCS is tomorrow, and we just take turns.
The NBA does that, and the NBA playoffs suck out loud.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well, the NBA playoffs run through, you know, November ninth,
and that's during the regular season. They go so long,
and that thing is yeah, that's the worst one.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, easily. And I would argue this, and I don't
know if you feel the same. And I listen, I know,
like I know hockey. I listen. I love the the
NHL playoffs as much as everybody else. And I get
all that, and we got some hockey stuff. I get
all that. I would say over the past couple of years,
I have come to enjoy the MLB playoffs more than
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the NHL playoffs. Really yeah, I think baseball's playoffs is
the best in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Why is it?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Well, I think the shorter series early on help. I
think you like you're up against it right away in
the three game series. You lose one game and the
statistics show like a staggering number of teams are out,
like you're done. Like if you lose that, what that
first game? Like you're just putting a bind And all
it takes is one bad pitching outing, you know, one
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one air and by a middle infielder, like it could
like all these crazy things that happen with Major League Baseball.
There's so many variables out there. But the NHL playoffs
are great, and it's so back and forth and chaotic
and you're running like you feel like Alex Vesia watching
the NHL playoffs. But in Major League Baseball, they go
from hey, you know, listen, we're just getting ready for
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the postseason. Two they turn the lights on, and it's
like a casino on a cruise ship, like you're waiting
to hit international waters. They turn the lights on. It
all of a sudden it's like, whoa, this is a
whole nother game. It's managed completely different. You can see
the emotions then Kirkering, you saw in the middle of
that play for the Phillies. You saw him panic. You
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literally saw a guy panic in what should be a
routine play that he's made a thousand times in his
life and one hundred times probably this year. I just
think what Major League Baseball has done with their playoff formatting,
the shorter series before you get to the lcs's and
then the World Series. For my money, it's the best
of the bunch.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's a sense of urgency. That's what everybody wants to
watches sports, a sense of urgency. There are too many
games overall. Yeah, as many games as there are, there's
not that much urgency. That's why the playoffs mean more. Yeah,
and nobody wants to be in that best of three.
But it certainly makes a difference. Yeah, it ratches everything
up because as you point out one mistake and you're done.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
What like you could go even Look, everybody acknowledged the
worst team in the playoffs this year was the Reds.
Like everybody acknowledged that, Like the Reds are the team
you look at and go, yeah, they got in. It
probably should have been the Mets all that. Like, you
go back to that series with the Dodgers, there was
some bases loaded situations, there was traffic on the base paths,
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like there were things that, you know, one bad pitch,
one key hit, something like that, and all of a sudden,
maybe Cincinnati steals a game and then you're facing a
winner take all against the Reds in Game three like that,
Like that's the way they've done it. And look, the
NBA and the NHL are never going to go down
in games because of the revenue that comes along with it.
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I just hope, I hope for the sake of the
product that Major League Baseball stays where they're at because
I think it's phenomenal, phenomenal television.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oh then won't go back. Yeah, they'll stay where they're at.
They'll just turn it up even more if they can't.
Two Milwaukee notes. As you get ready for the game,
number one, the Fister Hotel considered by a minute to
be haunted. You were you flunk it on the program earlier? Say,
monkey won't even stay there? Is the Fister Hotel haunted?
You ask, well, it is known for numerous reports of
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supernatural activity and paranormal experiences from guests, especially major league players,
Electronics malfunctioning, dis embodied voices or footsteps, with legends often
involving the spirit of the hotel's phones or Charles Fister.
That's where they're staying in Milwaukee, the haunted Hotel.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
What a what a creeper that guy was? He dies,
and all these years later he wants to go be
a peeping tom to major League Baseball players? How horned
up was he growing up?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Okay, we don't know that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, I'm just I mean, he's the one haunting the hotel.
Like Mookie Bets is trying to brush his teeth in
the nude, and this guy's like peeping through the door, like,
oh what have we got in there? Like what's what's
everybody working with here? Just if you like that's that?
Feel like somebody should do something about that enough, like
change the name of the hotel, really get under his skin.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
The thing I have to ask you, with your dead ass,
how do you know Mookie brushes his teeth in the nude?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So I don't know. Listen, people do weird things that
There's some people that something. I'm sorry, No, No, there's
just there's some people that brush their teeth in the shower,
which is strange.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I would never do that.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Some people do it, and it's weird.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Why would you do that?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
What are you far?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, I don't know. Telling you man, people do weird stuff.
And at the Fister Hotel, you got some creeper, some corpse.
He might have been the dead body that Mac Jones
saw on Marina del Rey a week and a half ago.
Some you got some creeper who's peeping on ballplayers. Like
sorry that you weren't gifted, so to speak. When you
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are alive, that you've got to go like see what
everybody else has got? Mind your business, all right.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
The other thing about Milwaukee that you should keep in
mind is you watch the games, and I think this
individual will be there at the Games of Milwaukee. Have
you ever heard of front row Amy who hasn't? Okay,
front row Amy will be there. She's easy to spot.
For a period of time, she was just front row
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Amy and was easy to spot, and you'll spot her
without question. But then everybody said, well, you know she's
there just to be seen and her attributes discussed. So
now apparently she's keeping score during the game the scorebook.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Now, well, I mean, you know her and her friends
are there every game. Why wouldn't she Why woudn't they
keep themselves busy? You know?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, but that's not what the focus on.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Why No, Like you like, like all three of them
are sitting there, like you can see, like you know,
they're trying to enjoy the gamey as well keep score
while they're there. I mean, like.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It, she's like Marlin's Man with a different physique.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I mean that that ought to show you the difference
between organizations that love baseball and ones that are just
like whatever, we got a football team and a basketball team,
let's do it. Let's have a baseball team here, because
like the Breors have got front Rowe Amy and you know,
she's got her battleships out for the world to see.
And meanwhile the Marlins are like, oh, we got it.
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We're going to counter that. Here's a guy in glasses
and bright orange. We're gonna send the games. Boy. Hey, wait,
way to keep up with the times, wait to know
your audience.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I don't think the club is sending Marlin's Man.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Around okay, but but you're in Miami. You can't stroll
down South Beach, like you can't go down Ocean Avenue
and find somebody that could compete with with you know,
front row Amy. What are we doing here?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So what are you suggesting they go and find somebody
and plant them there?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I don't think the Brewers planted front row Amy there.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Okay. Didn't Pamela Anderson get noticed at a King's game
or was it a maple Leafs game? Like one of
the two Pam Anderson was like wearing like a Moulson
a Moulson ice shirt or something like that, and they
spotted her and we're like, hey, look at that.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I ever tell you about the time Pam Pam asked
me to go get her a drink.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
No, never told you this, No, No, you haven't told
me this one.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
All right. So there's a fight at at then Staples.
I can't remember who's fighting. But somehow my wife and
I we get tickets, like right in the front row.
I can't remember who's it's a round.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Accidentally, you guys ended up with front row tickets.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Oh, we got front row tickets and we went that's great.
So we had the two seats. There were two seats
and then our seats, so there were two seats on
the island next to us. So we're sitting there. We
get there, we're settling in, we're gonna watch the fight.
All of a sudden, there's a commotion in the crowd.
People are making sounds. You look, and here comes Pamela
Anderson down with her then boyfriend, who I think was
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underwear model. So they're coming down. They're walking down. We look,
we see because everybody's looking, and I'm wondering, where are
they gonna sit. Well, they sit right next to us.
They are right next to us. Now, I'm right next
to pam Anderson. Her boyfriend is on the aisle, and
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my wife is to my left. I am right next
to her. Okay, So she sits down and we're just
sitting there and people are making noise and yelling, and
she looks at me and she's gonna say something. And
I'm thinking, oh, you know, maybe she's watched Channel four.
You know, I've been here a long time. I don't know.
Maybe she knows somebody we know. I'm not sure. So
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she looks at me and I look at her, and
she goes, hey, can you go up to the concession
stand and get me a drink? True?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Pam Anderson, were you wearing the same outfit as a
concession worker.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I looked at her. I just looked at her. I went,
go get your own drink. Go? No you yes, I did,
go get your own drink.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Go.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
That's exactly what I did. What am I gonna do?
Oh my god, Pam. Yeah, I'll run all the way
back up there and get you a drink and bring
it down. No, you go, and if you go, you
can get me one. No, that was my Pam Anderson
story actually happened.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Okay, if your wife wasn't there, would the response have
been do.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Go get me one? Two?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
No, that would have been my response.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Response has been what do I get? No?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
No, tell tell your underwear model boyfriend to go get
you one? Why am I going up to get you one?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
By the way, how do you know the guy was
an underwear model? What do you the owner of the
Fister Hotel? What do you know all he was wearing
was underwear? Oh at the fight? Okay, that makes that
makes sense. Listen, that makes all the sense in the world.
But that is that is insulting, though that she thought,
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you know so little of you that like you look
like somebody who would serve drinks, Like, go give me one.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I don't have a problem getting to somebody a drink.
But no, no, not at all.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I mean I was wearing I was wearing a blue
shirt inside best Buy and somebody asked me where something was.
I thought that was a little demeaning, you know what
I mean, Like, no, no offense to best Buy, but
like I thought that was kind of insulting.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
You know what's so rude? And I've done this and
I hate to admit it, but I'll admit it, and
I admit it rude if you go up to somebody
in a store and ask for something but they don't
work there, and that has happened to me. That has
happened to me. Yeah, I've gone to saying, oh, can
you excuse me? Do you know where the or can
you get? You know, I don't work here, but they're
dressed like they might.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, So that listen, that's that's not our fault. And
I didn't hold it against that person who thought that
I was dressed up like a best Buy worker and
that's why they came to me with the question, like
it's not they were a fault. I know, it's like
we're something more like it was a long time ago,
like where the DVDs were or something like that. Like
it just just something ran and I was like, oh, yeah,
I don't work there. Oh my god, I saw you
had a blue shirt. Sorry you had a blue and
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it was almost like I didn't know if there were
being a wise ass, but yeah, that's unfortunate. Well, I mean, look,
you stood your ground. You didn't get Pamela Anderson a drink,
and and she probably thought you were rude. Like she
probably thought that was that was very rude because not
a lot of people have said no to Pamela Anderson.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
If you haven't heard, you know, she probably thought when
it was all said and done, absolutely nothing. You know
why she doesn't remember that moment. Think, I'm sure she
has no recollection.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
She think she was banged up. She was already banged
up when she walked in.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So saying I don't know what she was, but I'm
sure she has no recollection of that.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And by the way, by the way, you see she's
a she just stopped wearing makeup. She just said, I'm
not doing it.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Who's she dating now? Uh?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Liam Neeson?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Liam Neeson? Yeah right, Well she's going natural. That's good
for her.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I mean, look either way, stay out of the fist
or hotel, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Okay, special guest joins us when we come back, Fred
Rogan Jonas Knox on a five to seventy LA Sports
Jonas knoxon today for Rodney's we get ready for Game
one of the LCS. We were gonna have a special guest,
and I'm sure I think the special guest is busy.
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His name is Kelly Cheeseman. You go, who is that?
Kelly Cheeseman started by selling seasoned seats for the La
Kings like thirty years ago, very good salesperson. As a
matter of fact, got to know him because he was
our salesperson that we dealt with. Anyway, he moved up,
he became sales manager. Then he became president of business operations,
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so he was operating the entire s situation from a
business perspective. And I reached out to him last week
to ask him a question and he sent me this
article back. Kelly Cheeseman is now president of the UBS
Center in Brooklyn and the Islanders, or I should say
long Island. So, uh, congratulations, that's a huge job. I mean,
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he is now one of the governors of the National
Hockey League. It's a big deal. I wanted to bring
him on because he started selling tickets and uh, he
said he'd come on. But they have a game today,
so I don't know. Maybe he's still at the game.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
But anyway, it's still pretty I mean that the journey
from that to this is pretty impressive. Like you got
to you got to make an impact at so many
different levels to get that opportunity, starting from I don't
want to say the bottom, but starting at that level
to get to where he is now at the Islanders,
to be recruited to go to another place like that,
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all the way across the country because of the work
he did out here. I mean, you were you must
have been a great customer, Fred, I mean you must
have you know, must have run really helped along the way.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Well, what we did is we bought fourteen thousand season tickets,
so that helped him. We just bought all the season tickets.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I mean, so we thought, you know what, we like.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
This guy and it will help him. And that's what happened.
And because of us, he's now the man.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
So let me ask you this so you can fanboy
out about it a little bit, because I was mentioning
this too. I was filling in on PMS with Dave
damashek on Friday, and Dave's obviously a big hockey guy himself,
but I'm asking this and for people like, well, you
know what, why hockey? Okay, Eventually the Dodgers are going
to win another World Series, okay, and then it's Lakers
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Clippers all that. But there's a sneaky giant in town
in the La Kings that are a legitimate Stanley Cup contender,
like they're near the top when it comes to the
odds of winning the entire thing. So how you feeling, Fred?
Is this the year they get over the hump? Is
this the year the Kings look the Edmonton Oilers in
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the eyes and say no, no, no, no, no, it's
our turn now?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I feel the same way I feel every year they better,
because that's the only way I can feel they better.
They have a new general manager in Ken Holland, He's
made some moves and everybody's very frustrated with this. Everybody's
very frustrated. If you're a Kings fan, you get so
far and then you get knocked out. You get so far,
then you get knocked out. This is Copatar's last season.
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He's retiring. Boy, he can still play though, I'll tell
you that. And if there was a time for him
to get over the hump get out of the first round,
it's got to be now. They've got to do it now.
But we say that every single year. We say that
every single year. So, yeah, hockey's great to watch. Did
you see that story about Lebron The fans saw Wingiham.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, because he thought that Lebron was going to be
retiring or something like that.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah. He promoted it as his big decision, the decision too. Yeah,
and when he heard that, he went, oh my god,
I've got to see Lebron play. Okay, I've got to
see him in his final year. So I'm gonna rush
out and buy tickets. And I think he bought tickets
for the games against the Calves. I think then he
finds out that no, that wasn't his big decision, and
he was. His decision was about I don't know what
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I get.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
It, Hennessy. He was promoting a Hennessy, his Hennessy brand.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
So another guy says, I'm gonna sue you. I'm gonna
sue you because I took my money and I went
and bought tickets for that game. I can't go to
a lot of games, but I wasn't going to miss
that one. And I'm going to serve you and I'm
gonna sue you. First of all, okay, that guy gets
his fifteen minutes of fame. Nice job. Yeah, yeah, nobody cares.
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Nobody cares.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And secondly, get a life, okay, because you've read the
room wrong and you misread the motive behind Lebron James
making another decision. You should not be rewarded because you
went out and bought tickets. Go sell them to somebody,
like you know, if you like, go sell them to somebody.
Go stand on the corner and you know, see if
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see if anybody's willing to take them, Like if you're
that outraged by go take that approach. But don't bitch
and moan after the fact because you got it wrong.
Like he's not retiring, okay, and is it. Look if
you want to say this is his last year with
the Lakers, Okay, that makes some sense, all right. It
does feel like there's been a shift away from him
and they basically handed the reins to Luca. I get it,
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like that makes some sense, but this idea that I
should be rewarded. That's like when when people when Pakiao
and Mayweather finally fought, and they were charging one hundred
dollars for the fight, and then people afterwards were complaining
because the fight didn't live up to their expectations and
they were trying to get their money back, and then
they found out that, you know, Pakio had hurt his
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shoulder before the fight. It's like, well, he was compromised,
so we shouldn't be held accountable. Dude, do you think
any fighter going through a training camp comes into a
fight healthy? Like, do you think anybody like do you
think anybody in the NFL, even just six games into
the season, is one hundred percent healthy? No, you're getting
a diminished product every time you watch an NFL game.
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After about week one and about halfway through week one,
the idea that you can come back afterwards because you've
spent one hundred dollars and it didn't live up to
the hype and try and get some money back was ridiculous.
This guy's in the same boat.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Did you also see I think it was Rich Paul
had said it. You know, Lebron's going to be out
like four.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Weeks, right, yes, sciatica right.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah. In the past, you go, oh no, now it's fine,
take eight weeks off, It's fine. Yeah, gets back when
you get.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
It's just it's gone off for so long. And I'll
I'll make this comment and people will think I'm overstating
it because you know, we're talking on on Fox Sports Radio.
It's like, you know, there's there's a lot of there's
an audience listening nationally that maybe don't understand what what
their true feelings are here. And I say this, and
there's no embellishment, like look like the feeling Lakers fans
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have in town for Lebron. It's kind of like, yeah, whatever,
it's not like he was always a mercenary, Like it
was always like it brought back and you know, some
some life to the organization who had missed the playoffs
and it was in kind of a down trend. But
it's like this isn't He's not Kobe, he's not Shack,
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he's not pau Gasol. I would say, like, there's no
like those felt like Lakers Lebron just feels like some
guy who signed up with the Lakers because of everything
that the location of the team brought to him.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Honestly, I can't argue. I can't argue. I mean, I
fight with Rodney about it all the time, but I
can't argue. So I think Rich Paul said, look, let's
run out. He's going to be keeping an eye on things.
He's going to be watching to see how this team performs,
because you know, there's no guarantee. And Rich Paul didn't
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say this, but he said it without saying there's no guarantees.
He's gonna stay here. Yeah, he could go, he could go.
So he who's not going to be here for like
four to six weeks, Okay, no problem. That means we
don't hear from you for four to six weeks. Great,
let them play. But he's gonna keep an eye on things, Jonas,
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and if things don't look good, if things don't go
the way he thinks, well, I can't be responsible for
what he does.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
You have to understand, Yeah, this is like a couple
who breaks up one hundred times. By about time seventy eight,
you're like, whatever, let's she'll be back in two days,
Like this is just the way that it's just like dude,
like it's just run its course. I'm sorry, it's just
it's run its course. The organization made those moves, They
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went out and grabbed Luca. They had secret meetings and
dinners with Luca. They had roster construction conversations with Luca
that Lebron wasn't a part of. Like the writing is
on the wall. I mean, I'm fascinated to see how
he deals with the fact that he's no longer pulling
the strings with a team like he's done his entire career.
But just like the idea of like, oh, we're keeping
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an eye on how things are going, It's like cool,
you keep an eye on whatever you want. Oh you
have sciatica sweet like whatever you got to do. We
understand where we are, we understand what the future looks like,
and you're just not a part of it. Like that,
that's where things are at. And so they're trying whatever
they can to use whatever leverage they've got or they
think they have to try and get in the news
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when it comes to the organization.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I'm sorry, I think that's exactly what's going on. Exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, they've never been on this side before. They've always
been on the other side. They've been in the Lucas
shoes his entire career. Now they're not.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
And what they don't realize is given what they've done.
And I can't speak for every market, and I know
when he was in other markets, I was fascinated by
what he was doing in the other markets. I was
from a national perspective. I found it interesting. Once he
got here and I realized what this was, I went, oh, God, stop,
enough enough. But what they don't realize, and here's how
I think. I think they're misplaying the room. But on
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the other hand, he's still making a ton of money.
And at the end of the day, you know, whether
I think he's misplayed the room or not doesn't matter,
because he's got the money, he's got his businesses, and
he's been highly successful. I think what happened here, though,
at least from my prospective, I'm sure many fans too.
Once Luca got here, it was just Lebron burnout. We're
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burned out. Now it's enough, Yes, it's enough. It's not
about you. I'm going to keep an eye on things.
You can keep an eye on whatever you want. You
can keep an eye on traffic on Wilshire Boulevard, you
can keep an eye on how the Lakers are doing,
you can keep an eye on whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I'm watching you, Buster, Yeah, I'm paying real close attention
to what's going on. But think about it. His entire
career has all been about him pulling the strings. Like
I would say, probably about two three years into his career,
maybe another when it was evident that he was the
best player in basketball. The whole goal for him was
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how can I manipulate things to get it how I want?
Whether it was going different places and trying to get
coaches fired, whether it was bringing in his own guys
or players that he wanted to play with and guys
that he didn't want to play with. Look, man, the
story's been told a hundred times, but it needs to
be repeated. The only guy who stood up to him
up to this point in his career was pat Riley, right,
because he went to pat Riley about twelve games into
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the first year in Miami and he said, hey, listen,
this Eric Spolster guy is not working for me. And
pat Riley said, tough balls. You don't call the shots here.
This is a different place, and you go out and
play and he's going to coach. And that was the
only guy who ever said no to him. And now
the Lakers are doing that all these years later, and
it's almost like they don't know how to respond. So
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there's a Hennessy drop, there's a we're keeping an eye
on things, there's a sciatica. It's just like, that's the
part that is interesting to me. How do you respond
when it's evident the organization has turned on you, not
the other way around.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
You know what he should have done? Really the minute
Luca got you know, they acquired Luca, and then you
knew Luca was going to sign the extension. Here, can
we both agree to that?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, Well I don't know what he's gonna do. I
do he's staying right here, Yes, well he might go.
He's not going anywhere. So anybody with a brain realized
that was gonna happen. He was going to stay, and
I knew he was going to stay. I guess there
was oh, but maybe so you got it. We just
waited out. They knew he was going to stay, and
Lebron knew he was going to stay. Lebron should have said,
I went out. Lebron should have gone That's what should
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have happened.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, I mean, if if he was so blown away
by and so surprised by the Anthony Davis trade, he
should have like, yeah, he should have been Hey, I mean,
if they're they're trading him away to bring in Luca,
I got to get out of here.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
He should have told him I'm leaving. And by the way,
he you know, he's played a lot of games and
they don't need him early on. Anyway, he can have
sciatica as long as he needs to. He can't just
get treatment.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You'll be a nice guy for the guy. You know what,
have sciatica for a couple more weeks. You don't need
to be back and forth.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Now, just take your time. There's no rush, nothing is
dependent on you. Just take your time. But here's the
other side of it. You got a fifty million dollar
a year guy who's not going to play. What could
you do with that kind of money? You see what
I'm saying. So, yeah, he should not rush back.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Look, I think the Lakers look at it like, yes,
we're paying well, what is it like fifty three million
or something like that to be exact, so they're paying
him fifty three million. I think they look at it
like this, much like that guy went out and spent
the money he did on tickets because it might be
his final year. I think the Lakers look at it
like this, Hey, this isn't about competing for a championship
this year. This is about setting us up for the future.
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And if we can make a few bucks and get
some of that fifty three million back for people wanting
to see Lebron and potentially his final year or at
least his final year here in LA, That's how they
look at it. This is a business decision, much like
the Kobe contract was a business decision. They realize it's
not going to we're not competing for championships, But do
you know how much money they made on people who
wanted to see Kobe's last Like I swear to I
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think an NBA title is not even like they would
love to be competing for one. It would love to happen.
Lebron's still a great player, despite what anybody wants to
say about him. He's still probably a top ten player
in the NBA. He's fan like it was a second
team All NBA guy last year at his age, He's unbelievable.
I don't I think they look at this as a
business transaction, Honest to god. I think they're like, whatever
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we can get back this final year from Lebron. Cool,
but it's twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven and beyond
for us. That's the way I feel about it.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Well, And the thing is this, they kept him because
they wanted to put people in the scenes. I mean,
that's the reason he's seen her. Yes, that's the If
you go to a Laker game, if you've gone to
a Laker game in the past few years, you know,
when they were in playoff contention, when they were on
the bubble, whatever. The only thing I ever heard people
say is Lebron going to play tonight. Yeah, and I
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am not exaggerating, is Lebron going to play tonight, no
matter what he did off the court, no matter how
how much confusion he stirred up as Lebron playing. That's
what you heard walking through the concourse at Staples. He
put people in the seats. They could still charge that money,
so it was a win for them. So you put
up with it because the bottom line is the most
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important thing. So they just kept going. When Rob Polinka goes,
if I hear this one more time, I swear to
I'm gonna wretch. We still want Lebron to finish his
career here. Can't you just leave it alone?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Can't you just leave it alone? We want Lebron to
finish here? And why is that? Why do you want that? Right?
What is so special for you about that?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
You don't need to double down in the illusion like like,
we know everybody knows what's happening. Lebron knows, the fans know.
And yet to your point on the on the fact
that people want to come to see him. Look, despite
what anybody says about how he's handled himself in the
media or what he's done, he is at worst, the
third greatest player of all time, at worst, And so
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when you look at that and you go, this guy's
still a great players I mentioned you know, still you know,
an All NBA player, second team like still like a
quality top ten probably player in the NBA. And we're
talking how many years into his career the people are
going to want to come out to see that. Like
I went in July, Manny Pacquiao came back and fought
he fought this guy, Mario Barrios, and so I went
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out there and did some work for Fox Sports Radio
and cover the fight and all that, and I just
assumed that's gonna be, like, eh, whatever, we're gonna go
in if there's gonna be you know, some buzz and
you know it'll be a fun event and all that.
I was shocked at how many people wanted to have
one last opportunity, potentially to see one of the greatest
of all time to do it like the place was
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bananas and Paccio's No, we're close to where he was
in his prime, like Lebron is. That's what this is
for the Lakers, like, hey, one last time, like you
want it, like one last time, if not in his career,
at least here with the Lakers. And that's how they
view this whole thing from the jump.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
All right, we're back to wrapping up Fred Rogan, Jonas
Knxson for Rodney an a five to seventy LA Sports
Jonas Knaxon today for Rodney Jonas, thanks for hanging appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
No, it's fun talking about haunted hotels. You know, Dodgers
probably gonna take this in what five or six? I
think we're both in agreement on. Yeah, and that's on
the World Series. The wonky scheduling of the MLB Playoffs,
which I don't get with the Alcs starting in ten
minutes or whatever, it is just weird.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I thought it really odd the other night Seattle and Toronto. Yeah,
so Game one, here we go, first pitch, home run
Blue Jays. Yeah, all right, now this is you better
watch yourself out because these guys they're bringing the lumber.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
George Fast Yeah, your guy, George Springer. All right, that's
that's what that's looking like.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Another one of those guys. Anyway, what happens boom they lose,
Seattle wins. I gotta tell you what if Seattle beats Toronto,
Dodgers beating Milwaukee. I'm not gonna say it, but the
Dodgers could sweep the World Series.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah. Bob Nightingale was mentioning on Friday that the only
team remaining that could be a precarious situation for the
Dodgers would be the Blue Jays, because the Blue Jays
can slug like Vlad Guerrero Junior hits bombs last.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Time they played during the regular season. He where Dodgers Stadium.
I was there. Dodgers spanked them, right you listen.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Postseason's different, Fred. I don't know if anybody's told you
that postseason baseball is a different animal to a beast.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Where's my pen?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
What's wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Postseason is what I'm gonna write it down.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I remember three two one big difference between postseason baseball
and regular season Baseballfred, dot dot dot, The postseason is
a real beast.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Oh god, all right? Blake Snell both tonight against the.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Unknown bullpen man Snell Silk Milwaukee Snell Zilla.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Baby, he's going.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I'm telling you this, this this series is all about
David Vassa's revenge. You got Snell going, You got what
happened with the slide before. This is David Vassa's revenge series.
I'm telling you right now. All right.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I want to thank Katie. She sat in for Ronnie today. Katie,
would you like to say anything as we leave today?
Do you have anything to say? Built up? Okay?
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Bolt up? That's right? Red, bolt up or bolt down?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah? Well the bolts were up on Sunday. Kevin, thank you,
Jonas appreciated game one tonight. We'll talk to you tomorrow
All right, we continue on Fred Rogan Jonas Nackson today
for Rodney on Ampop seventy LA Sports, like Snell goes
for the Dodgers tonight game one of the LCS against
the Bullpen.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah. Can I bitch about something I wish you would
the schedule during the Major League Baseball Playoffs?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Okay's here it all right?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, first of all, I don't know why the Dodgers
are playing three o'clock games at home. I don't get it.
I really I don't understand that doesn't it doesn't make
any sense to me. I don't know why they were
the early game and the Brewers Cubs game was the
later game. Like that just seems kind of strange to me,
when when they were rolling that out and then today
you've got both the ALCS, which is coming up in
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about an hour, and then after that you've got Dodgers Brewers.
Can't you just alternate days? Like can't you have one
one day and one the next? Like? What is the
what is this schedule? You're you're a big your big
TV ratings and format honk, Like, explain to me the
rationale behind what they're doing with the MLB playoffs.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well, First of all, tonight is game two of the ALCS. Yes, okay,
so they are a day ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, So but like you can't go every other.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Day, Well I guess you could. I'm sure there's a
reason they don't. If you went every other day, the
thing would go on even longer.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The Mariners just played a six hour game the other night, right,
Their pictures through like four hundred pitches in that game.
You roll them out two days later and then the
very next day, Like I just it doesn't make any sense.
Just space it out a little bit. Like the NLCS
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is today, the ALCS is tomorrow, and we just take turns.
The NBA does that, and the NBA playoffs suck out loud.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well, the NBA playoffs run through, you know, November ninth,
and that's during the regular season. They go so long,
and that thing is yeah, that's the worst one.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, easily. And I would argue this, and I don't
know if you feel the same. And I listen, I know,
like I know hockey. I listen. I love the the
NHL playoffs as much as everybody else. And I get
all that, and we got some hockey stuff. I get
all that. I would say over the past couple of years,
I have come to enjoy the MLB playoffs more than
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the NHL playoffs. Really yeah, I think baseball's playoffs is
the best in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Why is it?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Well, I think the shorter series early on help. I
think you like you're up against it right away in
the three game series. You lose one game and the
statistics show like a staggering number of teams are out,
like you're done. Like if you lose that, what that
first game? Like you're just putting a bind And all
it takes is one bad pitching outing, you know, one
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one air and by a middle infielder, like it could
like all these crazy things that happen with Major League Baseball.
There's so many variables out there. But the NHL playoffs
are great, and it's so back and forth and chaotic
and you're running like you feel like Alex Vesia watching
the NHL playoffs. But in Major League Baseball, they go
from hey, you know, listen, we're just getting ready for
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the postseason. Two they turn the lights on, and it's
like a casino on a cruise ship, like you're waiting
to hit international waters. They turn the lights on. It
all of a sudden it's like, whoa, this is a
whole nother game. It's managed completely different. You can see
the emotions then Kirkering, you saw in the middle of
that play for the Phillies. You saw him panic. You
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literally saw a guy panic in what should be a
routine play that he's made a thousand times in his
life and one hundred times probably this year. I just
think what Major League Baseball has done with their playoff formatting,
the shorter series before you get to the lcs's and
then the World Series. For my money, it's the best
of the bunch.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's a sense of urgency. That's what everybody wants to
watches sports, a sense of urgency. There are too many
games overall. Yeah, as many games as there are, there's
not that much urgency. That's why the playoffs mean more. Yeah,
and nobody wants to be in that best of three.
But it certainly makes a difference. Yeah, it ratches everything
up because as you point out one mistake and you're done.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
What like you could go even Look, everybody acknowledged the
worst team in the playoffs this year was the Reds.
Like everybody acknowledged that, Like the Reds are the team
you look at and go, yeah, they got in. It
probably should have been the Mets all that. Like, you
go back to that series with the Dodgers, there was
some bases loaded situations, there was traffic on the base paths,
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like there were things that, you know, one bad pitch,
one key hit, something like that, and all of a sudden,
maybe Cincinnati steals a game and then you're facing a
winner take all against the Reds in Game three like that,
Like that's the way they've done it. And look, the
NBA and the NHL are never going to go down
in games because of the revenue that comes along with it.
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I just hope, I hope for the sake of the
product that Major League Baseball stays where they're at because
I think it's phenomenal, phenomenal television.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oh then won't go back. Yeah, they'll stay where they're at.
They'll just turn it up even more if they can't.
Two Milwaukee notes. As you get ready for the game,
number one, the Fister Hotel considered by a minute to
be haunted. You were you flunk it on the program earlier? Say,
monkey won't even stay there? Is the Fister Hotel haunted?
You ask, well, it is known for numerous reports of
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supernatural activity and paranormal experiences from guests, especially major league players,
Electronics malfunctioning, dis embodied voices or footsteps, with legends often
involving the spirit of the hotel's phones or Charles Fister.
That's where they're staying in Milwaukee, the haunted Hotel.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
What a what a creeper that guy was? He dies,
and all these years later he wants to go be
a peeping tom to major League Baseball players? How horned
up was he growing up?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Okay, we don't know that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, I'm just I mean, he's the one haunting the hotel.
Like Mookie Bets is trying to brush his teeth in
the nude, and this guy's like peeping through the door, like,
oh what have we got in there? Like what's what's
everybody working with here? Just if you like that's that?
Feel like somebody should do something about that enough, like
change the name of the hotel, really get under his skin.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
The thing I have to ask you, with your dead ass,
how do you know Mookie brushes his teeth in the nude?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So I don't know. Listen, people do weird things that
There's some people that something. I'm sorry, No, No, there's
just there's some people that brush their teeth in the shower,
which is strange.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I would never do that.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Some people do it, and it's weird.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Why would you do that?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
What are you far?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, I don't know. Telling you man, people do weird stuff.
And at the Fister Hotel, you got some creeper, some corpse.
He might have been the dead body that Mac Jones
saw on Marina del Rey a week and a half ago.
Some you got some creeper who's peeping on ballplayers. Like
sorry that you weren't gifted, so to speak. When you
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are alive, that you've got to go like see what
everybody else has got? Mind your business, all right.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
The other thing about Milwaukee that you should keep in
mind is you watch the games, and I think this
individual will be there at the Games of Milwaukee. Have
you ever heard of front row Amy who hasn't? Okay,
front row Amy will be there. She's easy to spot.
For a period of time, she was just front row
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Amy and was easy to spot, and you'll spot her
without question. But then everybody said, well, you know she's
there just to be seen and her attributes discussed. So
now apparently she's keeping score during the game the scorebook.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Now, well, I mean, you know her and her friends
are there every game. Why wouldn't she Why woudn't they
keep themselves busy? You know?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, but that's not what the focus on.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Why No, Like you like, like all three of them
are sitting there, like you can see, like you know,
they're trying to enjoy the gamey as well keep score
while they're there. I mean, like.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It, she's like Marlin's Man with a different physique.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I mean that that ought to show you the difference
between organizations that love baseball and ones that are just
like whatever, we got a football team and a basketball team,
let's do it. Let's have a baseball team here, because
like the Breors have got front Rowe Amy and you know,
she's got her battleships out for the world to see.
And meanwhile the Marlins are like, oh, we got it.
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We're going to counter that. Here's a guy in glasses
and bright orange. We're gonna send the games. Boy. Hey, wait,
way to keep up with the times, wait to know
your audience.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I don't think the club is sending Marlin's Man.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Around okay, but but you're in Miami. You can't stroll
down South Beach, like you can't go down Ocean Avenue
and find somebody that could compete with with you know,
front row Amy. What are we doing here?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So what are you suggesting they go and find somebody
and plant them there?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I don't think the Brewers planted front row Amy there.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Okay. Didn't Pamela Anderson get noticed at a King's game
or was it a maple Leafs game? Like one of
the two Pam Anderson was like wearing like a Moulson
a Moulson ice shirt or something like that, and they
spotted her and we're like, hey, look at that.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I ever tell you about the time Pam Pam asked
me to go get her a drink.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
No, never told you this, No, No, you haven't told
me this one.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
All right. So there's a fight at at then Staples.
I can't remember who's fighting. But somehow my wife and
I we get tickets, like right in the front row.
I can't remember who's it's a round.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Accidentally, you guys ended up with front row tickets.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Oh, we got front row tickets and we went that's great.
So we had the two seats. There were two seats
and then our seats, so there were two seats on
the island next to us. So we're sitting there. We
get there, we're settling in, we're gonna watch the fight.
All of a sudden, there's a commotion in the crowd.
People are making sounds. You look, and here comes Pamela
Anderson down with her then boyfriend, who I think was
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underwear model. So they're coming down. They're walking down. We look,
we see because everybody's looking, and I'm wondering, where are
they gonna sit. Well, they sit right next to us.
They are right next to us. Now, I'm right next
to pam Anderson. Her boyfriend is on the aisle, and
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my wife is to my left. I am right next
to her. Okay, So she sits down and we're just
sitting there and people are making noise and yelling, and
she looks at me and she's gonna say something. And
I'm thinking, oh, you know, maybe she's watched Channel four.
You know, I've been here a long time. I don't know.
Maybe she knows somebody we know. I'm not sure. So
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she looks at me and I look at her, and
she goes, hey, can you go up to the concession
stand and get me a drink? True?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Pam Anderson, were you wearing the same outfit as a
concession worker.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I looked at her. I just looked at her. I went,
go get your own drink. Go? No you yes, I did,
go get your own drink.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Go.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
That's exactly what I did. What am I gonna do?
Oh my god, Pam. Yeah, I'll run all the way
back up there and get you a drink and bring
it down. No, you go, and if you go, you
can get me one. No, that was my Pam Anderson
story actually happened.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Okay, if your wife wasn't there, would the response have
been do.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Go get me one? Two?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
No, that would have been my response.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Response has been what do I get? No?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
No, tell tell your underwear model boyfriend to go get
you one? Why am I going up to get you one?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
By the way, how do you know the guy was
an underwear model? What do you the owner of the
Fister Hotel? What do you know all he was wearing
was underwear? Oh at the fight? Okay, that makes that
makes sense. Listen, that makes all the sense in the world.
But that is that is insulting, though that she thought,
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you know so little of you that like you look
like somebody who would serve drinks, Like, go give me one.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I don't have a problem getting to somebody a drink.
But no, no, not at all.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I mean I was wearing I was wearing a blue
shirt inside best Buy and somebody asked me where something was.
I thought that was a little demeaning, you know what
I mean, Like, no, no offense to best Buy, but
like I thought that was kind of insulting.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
You know what's so rude? And I've done this and
I hate to admit it, but I'll admit it, and
I admit it rude if you go up to somebody
in a store and ask for something but they don't
work there, and that has happened to me. That has
happened to me. Yeah, I've gone to saying, oh, can
you excuse me? Do you know where the or can
you get? You know, I don't work here, but they're
dressed like they might.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, So that listen, that's that's not our fault. And
I didn't hold it against that person who thought that
I was dressed up like a best Buy worker and
that's why they came to me with the question, like
it's not they were a fault. I know, it's like
we're something more like it was a long time ago,
like where the DVDs were or something like that. Like
it just just something ran and I was like, oh, yeah,
I don't work there. Oh my god, I saw you
had a blue shirt. Sorry you had a blue and
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it was almost like I didn't know if there were
being a wise ass, but yeah, that's unfortunate. Well, I mean, look,
you stood your ground. You didn't get Pamela Anderson a drink,
and and she probably thought you were rude. Like she
probably thought that was that was very rude because not
a lot of people have said no to Pamela Anderson.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
If you haven't heard, you know, she probably thought when
it was all said and done, absolutely nothing. You know
why she doesn't remember that moment. Think, I'm sure she
has no recollection.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
She think she was banged up. She was already banged
up when she walked in.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So saying I don't know what she was, but I'm
sure she has no recollection of that.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And by the way, by the way, you see she's
a she just stopped wearing makeup. She just said, I'm
not doing it.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Who's she dating now? Uh?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Liam Neeson?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Liam Neeson? Yeah right, Well she's going natural. That's good
for her.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I mean, look either way, stay out of the fist
or hotel, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Okay, special guest joins us when we come back, Fred
Rogan Jonas Knox on a five to seventy LA Sports
Jonas knoxon today for Rodney's we get ready for Game
one of the LCS. We were gonna have a special guest,
and I'm sure I think the special guest is busy.
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His name is Kelly Cheeseman. You go, who is that?
Kelly Cheeseman started by selling seasoned seats for the La
Kings like thirty years ago, very good salesperson. As a
matter of fact, got to know him because he was
our salesperson that we dealt with. Anyway, he moved up,
he became sales manager. Then he became president of business operations,
(14:58):
so he was operating the entire s situation from a
business perspective. And I reached out to him last week
to ask him a question and he sent me this
article back. Kelly Cheeseman is now president of the UBS
Center in Brooklyn and the Islanders, or I should say
long Island. So, uh, congratulations, that's a huge job. I mean,
(15:18):
he is now one of the governors of the National
Hockey League. It's a big deal. I wanted to bring
him on because he started selling tickets and uh, he
said he'd come on. But they have a game today,
so I don't know. Maybe he's still at the game.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
But anyway, it's still pretty I mean that the journey
from that to this is pretty impressive. Like you got
to you got to make an impact at so many
different levels to get that opportunity, starting from I don't
want to say the bottom, but starting at that level
to get to where he is now at the Islanders,
to be recruited to go to another place like that,
(15:50):
all the way across the country because of the work
he did out here. I mean, you were you must
have been a great customer, Fred, I mean you must
have you know, must have run really helped along the way.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Well, what we did is we bought fourteen thousand season tickets,
so that helped him. We just bought all the season tickets.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I mean, so we thought, you know what, we like.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
This guy and it will help him. And that's what happened.
And because of us, he's now the man.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
So let me ask you this so you can fanboy
out about it a little bit, because I was mentioning
this too. I was filling in on PMS with Dave
damashek on Friday, and Dave's obviously a big hockey guy himself,
but I'm asking this and for people like, well, you
know what, why hockey? Okay, Eventually the Dodgers are going
to win another World Series, okay, and then it's Lakers
(16:41):
Clippers all that. But there's a sneaky giant in town
in the La Kings that are a legitimate Stanley Cup contender,
like they're near the top when it comes to the
odds of winning the entire thing. So how you feeling, Fred?
Is this the year they get over the hump? Is
this the year the Kings look the Edmonton Oilers in
(17:01):
the eyes and say no, no, no, no, no, it's
our turn now?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I feel the same way I feel every year they better,
because that's the only way I can feel they better.
They have a new general manager in Ken Holland, He's
made some moves and everybody's very frustrated with this. Everybody's
very frustrated. If you're a Kings fan, you get so
far and then you get knocked out. You get so far,
then you get knocked out. This is Copatar's last season.
(17:25):
He's retiring. Boy, he can still play though, I'll tell
you that. And if there was a time for him
to get over the hump get out of the first round,
it's got to be now. They've got to do it now.
But we say that every single year. We say that
every single year. So, yeah, hockey's great to watch. Did
you see that story about Lebron The fans saw Wingiham.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, because he thought that Lebron was going to be
retiring or something like that.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah. He promoted it as his big decision, the decision too. Yeah,
and when he heard that, he went, oh my god,
I've got to see Lebron play. Okay, I've got to
see him in his final year. So I'm gonna rush
out and buy tickets. And I think he bought tickets
for the games against the Calves. I think then he
finds out that no, that wasn't his big decision, and
he was. His decision was about I don't know what
(18:13):
I get.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
It, Hennessy. He was promoting a Hennessy, his Hennessy brand.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
So another guy says, I'm gonna sue you. I'm gonna
sue you because I took my money and I went
and bought tickets for that game. I can't go to
a lot of games, but I wasn't going to miss
that one. And I'm going to serve you and I'm
gonna sue you. First of all, okay, that guy gets
his fifteen minutes of fame. Nice job. Yeah, yeah, nobody cares.
(18:40):
Nobody cares.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And secondly, get a life, okay, because you've read the
room wrong and you misread the motive behind Lebron James
making another decision. You should not be rewarded because you
went out and bought tickets. Go sell them to somebody,
like you know, if you like, go sell them to somebody.
Go stand on the corner and you know, see if
(19:04):
see if anybody's willing to take them, Like if you're
that outraged by go take that approach. But don't bitch
and moan after the fact because you got it wrong.
Like he's not retiring, okay, and is it. Look if
you want to say this is his last year with
the Lakers, Okay, that makes some sense, all right. It
does feel like there's been a shift away from him
and they basically handed the reins to Luca. I get it,
(19:24):
like that makes some sense, but this idea that I
should be rewarded. That's like when when people when Pakiao
and Mayweather finally fought, and they were charging one hundred
dollars for the fight, and then people afterwards were complaining
because the fight didn't live up to their expectations and
they were trying to get their money back, and then
they found out that, you know, Pakio had hurt his
(19:45):
shoulder before the fight. It's like, well, he was compromised,
so we shouldn't be held accountable. Dude, do you think
any fighter going through a training camp comes into a
fight healthy? Like, do you think anybody like do you
think anybody in the NFL, even just six games into
the season, is one hundred percent healthy? No, you're getting
a diminished product every time you watch an NFL game.
(20:06):
After about week one and about halfway through week one,
the idea that you can come back afterwards because you've
spent one hundred dollars and it didn't live up to
the hype and try and get some money back was ridiculous.
This guy's in the same boat.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Did you also see I think it was Rich Paul
had said it. You know, Lebron's going to be out
like four.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Weeks, right, yes, sciatica right.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah. In the past, you go, oh no, now it's fine,
take eight weeks off, It's fine. Yeah, gets back when
you get.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
It's just it's gone off for so long. And I'll
I'll make this comment and people will think I'm overstating
it because you know, we're talking on on Fox Sports Radio.
It's like, you know, there's there's a lot of there's
an audience listening nationally that maybe don't understand what what
their true feelings are here. And I say this, and
there's no embellishment, like look like the feeling Lakers fans
(20:58):
have in town for Lebron. It's kind of like, yeah, whatever,
it's not like he was always a mercenary, Like it
was always like it brought back and you know, some
some life to the organization who had missed the playoffs
and it was in kind of a down trend. But
it's like this isn't He's not Kobe, he's not Shack,
(21:20):
he's not pau Gasol. I would say, like, there's no
like those felt like Lakers Lebron just feels like some
guy who signed up with the Lakers because of everything
that the location of the team brought to him.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Honestly, I can't argue. I can't argue. I mean, I
fight with Rodney about it all the time, but I
can't argue. So I think Rich Paul said, look, let's
run out. He's going to be keeping an eye on things.
He's going to be watching to see how this team performs,
because you know, there's no guarantee. And Rich Paul didn't
(21:54):
say this, but he said it without saying there's no guarantees.
He's gonna stay here. Yeah, he could go, he could go.
So he who's not going to be here for like
four to six weeks, Okay, no problem. That means we
don't hear from you for four to six weeks. Great,
let them play. But he's gonna keep an eye on things, Jonas,
(22:15):
and if things don't look good, if things don't go
the way he thinks, well, I can't be responsible for
what he does.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
You have to understand, Yeah, this is like a couple
who breaks up one hundred times. By about time seventy eight,
you're like, whatever, let's she'll be back in two days,
Like this is just the way that it's just like dude,
like it's just run its course. I'm sorry, it's just
it's run its course. The organization made those moves, They
(22:41):
went out and grabbed Luca. They had secret meetings and
dinners with Luca. They had roster construction conversations with Luca
that Lebron wasn't a part of. Like the writing is
on the wall. I mean, I'm fascinated to see how
he deals with the fact that he's no longer pulling
the strings with a team like he's done his entire career.
But just like the idea of like, oh, we're keeping
(23:03):
an eye on how things are going, It's like cool,
you keep an eye on whatever you want. Oh you
have sciatica sweet like whatever you got to do. We
understand where we are, we understand what the future looks like,
and you're just not a part of it. Like that,
that's where things are at. And so they're trying whatever
they can to use whatever leverage they've got or they
think they have to try and get in the news
(23:23):
when it comes to the organization.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I'm sorry, I think that's exactly what's going on. Exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, they've never been on this side before. They've always
been on the other side. They've been in the Lucas
shoes his entire career. Now they're not.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
And what they don't realize is given what they've done.
And I can't speak for every market, and I know
when he was in other markets, I was fascinated by
what he was doing in the other markets. I was
from a national perspective. I found it interesting. Once he
got here and I realized what this was, I went, oh, God, stop,
enough enough. But what they don't realize, and here's how
I think. I think they're misplaying the room. But on
(23:57):
the other hand, he's still making a ton of money.
And at the end of the day, you know, whether
I think he's misplayed the room or not doesn't matter,
because he's got the money, he's got his businesses, and
he's been highly successful. I think what happened here, though,
at least from my prospective, I'm sure many fans too.
Once Luca got here, it was just Lebron burnout. We're
(24:19):
burned out. Now it's enough, Yes, it's enough. It's not
about you. I'm going to keep an eye on things.
You can keep an eye on whatever you want. You
can keep an eye on traffic on Wilshire Boulevard, you
can keep an eye on how the Lakers are doing,
you can keep an eye on whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I'm watching you, Buster, Yeah, I'm paying real close attention
to what's going on. But think about it. His entire
career has all been about him pulling the strings. Like
I would say, probably about two three years into his career,
maybe another when it was evident that he was the
best player in basketball. The whole goal for him was
(24:58):
how can I manipulate things to get it how I want?
Whether it was going different places and trying to get
coaches fired, whether it was bringing in his own guys
or players that he wanted to play with and guys
that he didn't want to play with. Look, man, the
story's been told a hundred times, but it needs to
be repeated. The only guy who stood up to him
up to this point in his career was pat Riley, right,
because he went to pat Riley about twelve games into
(25:21):
the first year in Miami and he said, hey, listen,
this Eric Spolster guy is not working for me. And
pat Riley said, tough balls. You don't call the shots here.
This is a different place, and you go out and
play and he's going to coach. And that was the
only guy who ever said no to him. And now
the Lakers are doing that all these years later, and
it's almost like they don't know how to respond. So
(25:41):
there's a Hennessy drop, there's a we're keeping an eye
on things, there's a sciatica. It's just like, that's the
part that is interesting to me. How do you respond
when it's evident the organization has turned on you, not
the other way around.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
You know what he should have done? Really the minute
Luca got you know, they acquired Luca, and then you
knew Luca was going to sign the extension. Here, can
we both agree to that?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, Well I don't know what he's gonna do. I
do he's staying right here, Yes, well he might go.
He's not going anywhere. So anybody with a brain realized
that was gonna happen. He was going to stay, and
I knew he was going to stay. I guess there
was oh, but maybe so you got it. We just
waited out. They knew he was going to stay, and
Lebron knew he was going to stay. Lebron should have said,
I went out. Lebron should have gone That's what should
(26:28):
have happened.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, I mean, if if he was so blown away
by and so surprised by the Anthony Davis trade, he
should have like, yeah, he should have been Hey, I mean,
if they're they're trading him away to bring in Luca,
I got to get out of here.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
He should have told him I'm leaving. And by the way,
he you know, he's played a lot of games and
they don't need him early on. Anyway, he can have
sciatica as long as he needs to. He can't just
get treatment.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You'll be a nice guy for the guy. You know what,
have sciatica for a couple more weeks. You don't need
to be back and forth.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Now, just take your time. There's no rush, nothing is
dependent on you. Just take your time. But here's the
other side of it. You got a fifty million dollar
a year guy who's not going to play. What could
you do with that kind of money? You see what
I'm saying. So, yeah, he should not rush back.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Look, I think the Lakers look at it like, yes,
we're paying well, what is it like fifty three million
or something like that to be exact, so they're paying
him fifty three million. I think they look at it
like this, much like that guy went out and spent
the money he did on tickets because it might be
his final year. I think the Lakers look at it
like this, Hey, this isn't about competing for a championship
this year. This is about setting us up for the future.
(27:38):
And if we can make a few bucks and get
some of that fifty three million back for people wanting
to see Lebron and potentially his final year or at
least his final year here in LA, That's how they
look at it. This is a business decision, much like
the Kobe contract was a business decision. They realize it's
not going to we're not competing for championships, But do
you know how much money they made on people who
wanted to see Kobe's last Like I swear to I
(28:02):
think an NBA title is not even like they would
love to be competing for one. It would love to happen.
Lebron's still a great player, despite what anybody wants to
say about him. He's still probably a top ten player
in the NBA. He's fan like it was a second
team All NBA guy last year at his age, He's unbelievable.
I don't I think they look at this as a
business transaction, Honest to god. I think they're like, whatever
(28:23):
we can get back this final year from Lebron. Cool,
but it's twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven and beyond
for us. That's the way I feel about it.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Well, And the thing is this, they kept him because
they wanted to put people in the scenes. I mean,
that's the reason he's seen her. Yes, that's the If
you go to a Laker game, if you've gone to
a Laker game in the past few years, you know,
when they were in playoff contention, when they were on
the bubble, whatever. The only thing I ever heard people
say is Lebron going to play tonight. Yeah, and I
(28:53):
am not exaggerating, is Lebron going to play tonight, no
matter what he did off the court, no matter how
how much confusion he stirred up as Lebron playing. That's
what you heard walking through the concourse at Staples. He
put people in the seats. They could still charge that money,
so it was a win for them. So you put
up with it because the bottom line is the most
(29:16):
important thing. So they just kept going. When Rob Polinka goes,
if I hear this one more time, I swear to
I'm gonna wretch. We still want Lebron to finish his
career here. Can't you just leave it alone?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Can't you just leave it alone? We want Lebron to
finish here? And why is that? Why do you want that? Right?
What is so special for you about that?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
You don't need to double down in the illusion like like,
we know everybody knows what's happening. Lebron knows, the fans know.
And yet to your point on the on the fact
that people want to come to see him. Look, despite
what anybody says about how he's handled himself in the
media or what he's done, he is at worst, the
third greatest player of all time, at worst, And so
(30:08):
when you look at that and you go, this guy's
still a great players I mentioned you know, still you know,
an All NBA player, second team like still like a
quality top ten probably player in the NBA. And we're
talking how many years into his career the people are
going to want to come out to see that. Like
I went in July, Manny Pacquiao came back and fought
he fought this guy, Mario Barrios, and so I went
(30:29):
out there and did some work for Fox Sports Radio
and cover the fight and all that, and I just
assumed that's gonna be, like, eh, whatever, we're gonna go
in if there's gonna be you know, some buzz and
you know it'll be a fun event and all that.
I was shocked at how many people wanted to have
one last opportunity, potentially to see one of the greatest
of all time to do it like the place was
(30:51):
bananas and Paccio's No, we're close to where he was
in his prime, like Lebron is. That's what this is
for the Lakers, like, hey, one last time, like you
want it, like one last time, if not in his career,
at least here with the Lakers. And that's how they
view this whole thing from the jump.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
All right, we're back to wrapping up Fred Rogan, Jonas
Knxson for Rodney an a five to seventy LA Sports
Jonas Knaxon today for Rodney Jonas, thanks for hanging appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
No, it's fun talking about haunted hotels. You know, Dodgers
probably gonna take this in what five or six? I
think we're both in agreement on. Yeah, and that's on
the World Series. The wonky scheduling of the MLB Playoffs,
which I don't get with the Alcs starting in ten
minutes or whatever, it is just weird.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I thought it really odd the other night Seattle and Toronto. Yeah,
so Game one, here we go, first pitch, home run
Blue Jays. Yeah, all right, now this is you better
watch yourself out because these guys they're bringing the lumber.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
George Fast Yeah, your guy, George Springer. All right, that's
that's what that's looking like.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Another one of those guys. Anyway, what happens boom they lose,
Seattle wins. I gotta tell you what if Seattle beats Toronto,
Dodgers beating Milwaukee. I'm not gonna say it, but the
Dodgers could sweep the World Series.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah. Bob Nightingale was mentioning on Friday that the only
team remaining that could be a precarious situation for the
Dodgers would be the Blue Jays, because the Blue Jays
can slug like Vlad Guerrero Junior hits bombs last.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Time they played during the regular season. He where Dodgers Stadium.
I was there. Dodgers spanked them, right you listen.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Postseason's different, Fred. I don't know if anybody's told you
that postseason baseball is a different animal to a beast.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Where's my pen?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
What's wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Postseason is what I'm gonna write it down.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I remember three two one big difference between postseason baseball
and regular season Baseballfred, dot dot dot, The postseason is
a real beast.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Oh god, all right? Blake Snell both tonight against the.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Unknown bullpen man Snell Silk Milwaukee Snell Zilla.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Baby, he's going.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I'm telling you this, this this series is all about
David Vassa's revenge. You got Snell going, You got what
happened with the slide before. This is David Vassa's revenge series.
I'm telling you right now. All right.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I want to thank Katie. She sat in for Ronnie today. Katie,
would you like to say anything as we leave today?
Do you have anything to say? Built up? Okay?
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Bolt up? That's right? Red, bolt up or bolt down?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah? Well the bolts were up on Sunday. Kevin, thank you,
Jonas appreciated game one tonight. We'll talk to you tomorrow
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