October 14, 2025 • 41 mins
We talk about the big storylines coming out of Game 1 of the NLCS, including Blake Snell tossing 8 shutout innings (and the debate about whether he should have stayed in), Saski's struggles, Treinen's big confidence boost and the bases loaded fiasco in the 4th inning that resulted in an unconventional double play.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here we go, Fred Rogan Rodney Pete at five to
seventy LA Sports two hour program for us today as
the Dodgers try to make it two straight in Milwaukee
against the Brewers last night. So much to get into
about last night, and then we will obviously focus ahead.
By the way, Jack Harris of The Times will join
us at one o'clock. So we'll start with Blake Snell.
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What a magnificent performance. What an incredible outing by Blake Snell.
I mean, it probably was I think the best performance
of the year in Major League baseball. He was dominant,
he was dealing, he was owning them. He was in
complete command. And now, if you wonder why did they
sign Blake Snell aside in the fact Rodney said they should,
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last night was the perfect example of why he dominated.
He did his job. Not only did he give the
Dodgers a chance to win, but he was in the
game when they were ahead. So he was magnificent. And
you wonder to yourself as we get ready for the
ninth inning last night, he's over one hundred pitches. We
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know that. We also know years ago guys would throw
one twenty no problem. So we get into the ninth
inn and he looks spectacular, and you're wondering to yourself,
all right, we're gonna let him go. Let's just let
him finish this out. Let's get out of here. Sure,
anything could happen. There are no guarantees, but give him
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the way he's pitching rotten, You're thinking to yourself, let's
just send him out there and finish this up. I was.
I was certainly thinking let him go.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Just let him go, and if he happens to you know,
he happens to struggle, or he happens you start to
see signs of him, you know, maybe getting fatigued or whatever,
then you go get him in the ninth because he
was so dominant. And yeah, we you know, we the
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one hundred pitches, a threshold that a lot of managers
in club think about, Okay, how far do we let
him go over one hundred pitches? If they get to
one hundred pitches and we're gonna pull them. He was
right at one hundred, you know, before that ninth they ain't.
And man, just from the eye test alone, I'm letting
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him go go out for the ninth. I am letting
him go out for the ninth and there's a couple
of reasons, Fred and I yes, Roki Sazaki, and I
can understand the thought process because he has been lights out.
He's been unhittable coming out of the pen since he's
come back, and they've utilized him out of the bullpen
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as the closer and he's been basically named the official
closer of this team. He has been dominant, and he
has been unhittable as well. But in this series, if
you've got a chance to kind of save him and
not let the Brewers see him, if you don't have to,
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I think I might have would have wanted to save
him and let Blake Snell go finish it out. And
then the first time you see Sazaki is in game
two if you're winning, so you don't get to see
him multiple nights, you don't get to see him back
to back, or you don't get to see him in
that first game, and you're wondering what it's going to
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be like to see him firsthand. And yet we got
a wig, and to me, psychologically, we got away with
not having to go to Suzaki and win this ballgame.
So all those things kind of come into play, and
we're in my mind say, let Blake Snell finish it out.
You save Sazaki. They don't see him, and the first
time they get a chance to see him maybe is
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game two or even game three, depending on how it goes,
so you don't have to use him. So yeah, I
would have trotted Blake Snell out there.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Again. Fred Song comes down to this. If you're Dave Robertson,
you're sitting there and after the game, by the way,
he said, it was a fifty to fifty call fifty,
we keep him in, we take him out if you
trot him back out there. The positive fifty says he
closes it out. The concerning fifty says, oh, now he's
in trouble. Maybe not as Chris, maybe not as sharp,
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although from the naked eye watching he looked pretty sharp.
And Chris, yeah, maybe they look at it differently. So
now you have to wonder to yourself, Okay, just in
that moment, at that time, By the way, I err
on the side of what you said, Rodney, I would
let him go. He was going back out there. I
couldn't believe it when they took the shot of him
and he's looking through the notebook and went, oh God, no,
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it's not time to look through the notebook and sit
there because you should be getting ready to go back out.
But the other side of it is already goes out there.
Now he gets in trouble. So you're thinking, now we
got Sazaki, but maybe more so, did you even want
him to get in trouble given the game he had?
And he was masterful, he was magnificent. So I get it.
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I get it was a tough call. You and I say,
we would have stuck with him the phone lines. In
a bit, we'll ask people what you think that being said,
we go to the bullpen and here comes Suzaki. I
gotta be honest with you. I thought three pitches and
he didn't have it. I felt that, Yeah, is that weird?
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I felt he's going to be off tonight. It's been
too good.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's almost been like the law of averages, right, he's
been too good. The last three outings against the Phillies.
He was unhittable. They didn't know what they didn't know
what to expect, and they didn't know what hit him
when Sazaki came out of that pin, and he just
felt that at some point love averages was going to
catch up and love averages is going to get you.
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And I felt the same way that first hitter. I
was like, ooh, and then the second one, it just
it was he.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
He was missing. And it wasn't just missing, you know,
granted I there was.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
It's been questionable umpiring in both of these series, and
the ALCS and the NLCS.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
He got squeezed on a ninety eight mile an hour fastball. Yeah,
right on, right on the right on the letter box.
Yeah he got squeezed. Yes he did, Yes he did.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And so with that and then also you know, him
missing some I just thought, and this is a team
that grinds you. They're much like the Dodgers read when
it comes to passing a baton and getting to the
next guy and making a picture work and working the count.
They're much like the Dodgers in that way that they
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will grind you, grind you, grind you. They're not going
to chase, although it's ironic that the game ended on
a chase, but that's not a team that does that
very often. And so they were very disciplined. When Sazaki
came in, and maybe that was the scouting report that
he nibbles around the edges and and he certainly didn't
get any calls, and they certainly made him work.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Felt the same thing. It's like, ooh, he's not as sharp,
he doesn't have what he has. And also he was
not hitting a hundred either. He was ninety seven ninety eight.
He was not hitting one hundred along the way, so
it was different.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
So then you know we got a problem here. Right.
So I'm thinking, all right, there's one answer to this question.
One alex Vesia. He's up throwing now, righted, he's throwing,
and so is Trying. But I'm thinking this is it
time to go to Vessia. So here comes like tryning. Okay,
so here he comes now, and you're thinking, oh no, no, no, no,
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no no. He really doesn't help matters much until he
gets rang to strike out. I thought that was pivotal,
maybe for the confidence of trying, maybe the decision Dave
Roberts made. But the thing is this, as you watch
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that game, I'll think about this. Milwaukee's got the bases loaded.
One run to tie, you only need one. You can
do anything to get that run across, anything anything to
get that run across and tie it up. So here's
the thing. Trying comes inside left headed hitting Terrang, here's
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Tryning's pitch. Oh no, it's headed, it's headed for his leg,
it's low, and Terrang does what almost anybody would do
in that situation, get out of the way. Accept, Accept,
And I ask you this if you're thinking about it.
In that situation, the bases are loaded, one run to tie,
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you're in the bottom of the ninth. Here comes the pitch. Yes,
you'll give the impression you're trying to get out of
the way. Of course you're not just gonna stand there,
but there are ways to get out of the way
and then get right into the pitch to hit with it.
If he got hit with that ball, the game is tied.
Do you think in a similar situation, Rodney, the Dodgers
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would have figured out a way to get hit in
that situation and have the time.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Run score depends on who's up at the plate, to
be honest with you, If at the plate, no, he's
getting out of the way. If Mooki's at the plate,
he's getting out of the way. Freddy's at the plate,
he's getting out of the way. You think, guys, I
think Freddy gets out of the way, because I've seen
Freddy get out of the way. And I've seen obviously
we've seen Freddy get hit. But you know, I think
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maybe Munsey is a guy that is so savvy at
the plate that he sees it early enough that he
allows it to hit him. I think Kei k A
is a guy that's savvy at the plate that will
allow it to hit him. Tioskar's swinging away or Tioskar's
getting out of the way, he's not letting it hit him. Uh,
there's a number. Tommy Edmonds maybe a guy that lets
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it hit him.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
What Will Smith let it hit him? He's uh, he
might know. I think I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I think Will Smith is a guy that mentality wise,
I'm I'm gonna get the base hit to win it.
And that's the difference. You know, you got guys going
up to the plate thinking bases loaded, a base hit
wins the game. I'm looking for a base hit to
win the game. I'm not looking to tie this thing
up or get hit by a pitch. So I'm looking
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for a specific pitch in the zone. And that's where
my mindset is not to go up there to walk
and if a guy goes up there, look I'm going
to I'm gonna stretch this picture out. I'm gonna make
him make every single pitch, and I'm gonna take until
I got two strikes, and if it's close, i'm gonna get.
I'm gonna let it hit me. Then that's a different guy.
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But most guys will go up there and go, this
is my opportunity to get a base hit and win
this game. And I am not. I'm not going to
just let a pitch hit me, and instinctial it's difficult.
Blake trying Let's not forget Blake trying to throws whiffle balls.
So it's not like you can say, ooh, an inside
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pitch is gonna come, keep coming inside. Blake Tryning has
more movement on his pitches than anybody in baseball, so
anything that looks like it's inside may end up over
the plate. And it's a hard judgment in a split
second to say, oh, this is coming inside, it's gonna
stay inside. I'm gonna stay in there and get and
take the hit. You can't make that decision. It's very
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difficult to make that decision. So I don't fault him
at all for not taking that pitch on the thigh
or anywhere else he could got hit.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
All right, just talk about the play with the Dodgers
at the bases loaded, and then for certainly the most
bizarre double play of the year, at least for the Dodgers.
Maybe in baseball fly ball deep center Felick goes back,
jumps up the balls in his glove, it pops out,
it hits the wall. He catches the ball off the wall.
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Then the fun begins. It turns into a double play.
Imagine if that ball had been hitting the gap, Dodgers
could have scored three they had the bases loaded one
out instead, the inning is over, Rodney, what were you
thinking when you saw that? I, first of all, I
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thought it was out. I thought it was a home
run in Grand Slam.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I thought Max got it because the way he looked
when he left the box, it was like I got it,
and he kind of jogged out of the box. And
then when I saw it, I was okay, at the
very least, we score a run, and now it's first
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and third or second and third with two outs. Never
did I think it was going to be a full
on double play. And at the very least I thought
the runner on third. First of all, the ball hits
to the wall in center field, the runner on third,
which was Taoskar r Nandez. There is absolutely no way
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in the world where you shouldn't score in that situation,
regardless of what happens. No matter what happens, you gotta score.
You gotta score. So a ball hit that far, if
it's caught cleanly, you tag up and you score. A
ball hit that far and he drops it, or it
bounces off the wall, you gotta score. No matter what happens.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
You gotta score. So a ball like that, you're taught
to go back to third base, stay on the bag.
If it's if he drops it, or if it hits
off the wall, you're gonna score easily anyway. If he
catches it, you're gonna tag and score easily anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Get back to the bag, Stay on the bag. As
soon as it touches his glove, you go. What happened
was it bounced off his glove, off the wall. He
caught it again. Ta Oscar thought he had to go
back to third base, and he did, which made him late,
and he threw the ball home and got a force
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out at the plate because basically loaded, so he misjudged
it and in that moment I get it. It's a
little bit confusing because you don't know if it's in
that moment you're thinking, oh, he caught it, So I
got to go back and tag again. But the reality
of the rule is as soon as it touches somebody's glove,
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then a runner whoever's tagging up, can go.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Even you don't have to have possession.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You don't have to have possession. As soon as it
touches his glove. It could bounce off his gloves twenty
times and you can go the moment it touches his
glove the first time, and that was something out I
don't think ta Oskar was aware of. So he went
back the tag, which made him late to go to home.
They got the force. Will Smith did not see exactly
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what happened either thought he couldn't get the third base,
so he didn't go. And Contrera's the catcher, was the
only one I think that had the wherewithal and knew
exactly what was going on, and he ran to third
base to get the double play. And I thought at
that moment, fred I thought, well, usually the umpires are
the ones you blame because they don't they don't make
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a decision. They let it happen, and you're you're relying
on the umpire to make a decision and to determine
whether or not you go. It's a catch, it's a
ow Is it safe? Is it a hit?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Well, they showed the replay and the left field umpire
in that moment was signaling safe, safe, safe, like it's
a hit. Soon as it hit the wall, it's a hit. Right,
he didn't bounce, it didn't bounce up in the air,
and he caught it again it hit the wall, so
once it hits the wall, it's it's actually a hit,
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so it's not an out. So he's signaling safe right away,
and I I was ready to blame him, but then
I saw the replay and he was signaling safe right away.
So if you're watching him and seeing him say safe,
then you understand. And Will Smith wasn't watching him either.
He's watching the play. It's which is difficult to watch
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two things at the same time because it was a
bizarre play. But he's signaling safe, which means that in
every every runner on base can go. Now you should
be able to go.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Dave Roberts came out and talked to him afterwards, and
he was asked, what were you talking about? Where he complaining.
He goes, no, I just wanted to know what happened.
I couldn't tell what happened. It was very and then
I was confused, quite honestly, because I thought if when
you looked at the replay, Friedler goes up to make
the play, it kicks off his glove and it hit
the yellow line, So then I'm thinking that's a whole
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run if it hits the yellow line. Yeah, But I
think it has to go over the yellow line. Yeah.
I thought the yellow line is the marker. Is the marker.
It's like the top of the wall, they basically, and
if it goes above that, then it's a home run.
But if it hits that, then I guess it's still
in play. Yeah. I never understood why, you know these
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have that.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
It used to be very prevalent in what the seventies
and early eighties. Then new ballparks were constructed and most
of them don't have that yellow line anymore. There are
a few still that have it. I never liked the
yellow line because it's so hard to determine, especially during
the regular season where you don't have six umpires, you
only have really four, and that umpire who's umpire in
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second base or first base, has to run down the
line to see if it hit above the line or
below the line. I just never liked it build the
stadium where a home run is it going over the fence?
Over the fence is a home run, not hitting a line?
So I always hated that. But yeah, you're right, you
know there was questions of that too. But if you
look at the umpire, he said safe, safe, safe, which
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means that it's not a catch, it's.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
A hit, all right. So that takes care of Game one.
Back at it tonight, Game two. Freddie peroalto talk about
Blake SNeW Can we talk about him? Don't do a
little more on Blakes now snow? Hold on, hold on,
hold on, let's go to break. Come on, Yeah, you
want a little more Blakes now? I do right, let's
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do when we come back, Flowers.
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Speaker 1 (18:47):
Oh yeah, working my way back to you, baby. Rodney P.
Fred Rogan on a beautiful, glorious, rainy, rainy.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Tuesday in southern California. Is it a rare rainy day?
And is it really raining hard? It rained all morning,
just slowed down right now, but it started raining early
this morning and it's been raining up until about a
half hour ago. It slowed down a little bit, but
it's still sprinkling, but yeah, raining hard. The heavens opened
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up fit.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
There was some concern I know, if the Dodgers had
opened against the Cobs. Ted Sobol touched me last week
and said, well, if that Tuesday game is in LA,
it could be a problem because of rain. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, I don't know if they play it because they're
supposed to continue raining most of the day and you know,
the tarps would have been out, so we'll see, but
they Yeah. Concerns are obviously in the Palisades Malibu area too.
I think things are shut down because of the mud slides.
As we normally get here when the rain comes. But yeah,
I've been raining hard all day.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
All right, I will over the phone lines. If you
want to participate in this, you can eight of six
ninety seven, two five seventy. Rodnie's gonna have some thoughts
on Blake's snout. And the question is, if you're Dave Roberts,
do you let him finish the game? Last night? Dave
said it was fifty to fifty. He aired on the
side of taking Let me let me guess what the
calls are going to be. Half of them are going
to be right, get rid of Dave Roberts. What the
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hell is he thinking about? Why would you? Why would
you never? Why would you take him out? I don't understand.
He should be fired bringing Sazaki in. He should be
fired for bringing trying in. Should he be fired for
getting on the plane and going to Milwaukee? You should
be fired for putting that uniform.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Lot that son of a Yes, he should be fired
for all of those things. All right, seventy would you
want him?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Go ahead? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
No, I just wanted to say real quick, I know
we're going to get to the calls. I I just
got to got to he when when you look up
and you go back to the off season, and the
regular season was up and down. It was nail biting,
and you wondered if the Dodgers are going to be
ready for the postseason because of all the injuries, especially
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to their starting pitching staff. But when Andrew Friedman, Dave Roberts,
and the whole staff decided what they were going to
do their approach to the offseason, they knew that they
could not get away with what they got away with
last year when they won the World Series and having
the multiple bullpen games that they did. The bullpen was incredible.
Don't get me wrong, the bullpen won the World Series
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form last year, they were phenomenal. But you can't have
a steady diet of that. If you don't have started
pitching pitching that is going to get you through sixth
inning or seven inning of games throughout the regular season,
you're going to be in trouble because you can't rely
on a bullpen to be that you successful and consistent
and sustainable throughout the entire season. And the Dodgers were
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able to get away with that last year in the playoffs.
So they went out and they got already pitching and
they made sure they secured their starting pitching. One of
the guys obviously they got. Which I was pushing for
before he went to San Diego, before he went to
San Francisco, was go get Blake Snell. I just thought
that in a Dodger uniform, with a Dodger offensive lineup,
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with the culture of the Dodgers, Blake Snell would thrive
in this environment. He he is that guy. Fred We've
talked about this over years that the Dodgers go about
their business business like. They've got a number of guys
on that team that you know, show up to work,
bring their lunch, paal, they don't. They keep their head down.
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There's not it's not flash. It's just the way they do.
It's very very business like. Blake Snell is a little
bit different than that. Blake Snell has got attitude all
up and down his body off the field. He is
that dog that I keep talking about that you got
to have on every team, that that outlier, that guy
that in a in a back room fight, in an
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alley fight, you want him on your side. And every
time he trots out there, especially in the postseason, it's
almost like he's built for the postseason, Like he's like, Okay,
I'm gonna show you a little glimpse of it during
the regular season, but when we get to the postseason,
you're gonna find out who I really am. And he
has got attitude up and down his body. I love
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everything about him, the way he approaches it, the way
he wants to step on your throat when he pitches,
down to the point where he calls his own pitches.
I don't know people were aware of this until last
night when they really overstated it. But he's calling his
own pitches. He's not allowing Will Smith to call it.
Most of the time, the catchers are calling the pitches
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for the pitcher and calling the game for the pitcher.
Blake Snell is calling his own game. He is spending
the time studying the hitters. He is spending time studying
the swings. He's spending time looking at his card in
between pitches, in between batters, and he is the one
that is telling Will Smith this is what I'm throwing here.
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I thought that was remarkable to put all that burden
on him and still be as effective as he is.
And yes, I wanted him to go finish that game
one hundred percent because I think that they were so
intimidated by him and had no chance of hitting him.
Let him finish it out. And I think I think
if he's in a similar situation going forward, and whether
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it be the rest of these NLCS or the World Series,
I think Dave Roberts lets him go Fred.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I think he lets him finish it out. No, I
think he'll give him the shot to after what we
saw last Yeah, sure sure. By the way, I liked
it that he's calling his own pictures. I'm the guy
throwing them. Yeah, I'm throwing them. I know what it
feels like. Yeah, let me let me tell you what
I'm throwing here. I guess Will Smith could disagree. It'd
be the first time the catcher ever shook off the picture.
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But yeah, I'm throwing them. So I know what I
want to throw, and I know how I feel, and
I've done the homework and I've done the preparation. And
they probably talked before the game, the two of them,
what should we think about here? What should we think
about there? And then he throws what he's comfortable with.
Doesn't know Tony calls on pitches too.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
That's a good question. I don't know if he does.
I don't know that for a fact. I know he's
got the thing on it. I know he's got the thing. Yeah,
and they all have the things Blake's got buttons. Yeah, yeah,
I'm not shaking off. I think Otani maybe shakes off.
I don't know if he's got the button. I don't
see him pushing the button like Blake was pushing the button.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You don't see that. I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I haven't seen that from otime at least, maybe I
haven't noticed it. But maybe he does, maybe doesn't, but
it's very noticeable that Blake was because you know, as
a pitcher, Okay, I'm watching that guy swing at my
change up and he's nowhere close. Why Why am I
going fastball here? Why am I going curveball here where
he can't hit my change up? And I'm gonna throw
it until he can hit it, and I feel good
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about it. I'm throwing it better than I'm throwing my curveball.
I know, maybe this situation calls for a curveball, will
and you call it, But for me, I'm telling you
my changeup is unhittable right now, and I'm throwing it
extremely well, that's what I want to throw in this
moment and I think a pitcher knows that better than
the catcher, even though the catcher calls the game.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
All right, would you have left him in? Should he
have gone all? Nine? Eight, six, six, nine, eighty seven
two five seventy we'll get started here, Danny in Pacoima,
thank you for holding? And what would you have done?
Taken him out or left him in?
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I would have left him in? I mean, why, why
why he was dealing? He's like in mid season four him.
Didn't he miss the half of the season. I mean
he's he was in great shape, great sheap, no stress,
no no stress, no no no stress on the any
any he was cruising.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Well.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I think a lot of people are n thanks for
the call. Yeah, yeah, until until he does get that stress.
And I think the thought process too, is that, do
you want him to get stressed in the ninth inning?
Maybe because he's gone eight, Let's let's throw them something
different in this moment. You know, there's there's all those
things that go into it. But yeah, I'm with I'm
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with I'm with Danny to call her man if he's
not showing any stress, he's only at one hundred pitches,
He's not at a one hundred and twenty. Let him,
let him go taste the first batter. If he gets
the first batter out or he struggles with that first batter,
then okay, then maybe you got to pull him.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Let me ask you something I don't think was it too?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Was it two one or two oh started that ninth inning?
I'm sorry, Fred, what with it did did the Brewers
get a run before that? The bottom of the ninth
did they get a run or was it two oh
going into the bottom of the night.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I think it's two old going into the knife. Yes,
two old going into night.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
So yeah, that on top of that, maybe I would
have let him go because you got room for him
to taste the first batter. The batter if he walks
him or it's a base it you bring in Sazaki,
you're trying. But I also get the fact that they
wanted Sazaki to come in with a clean inning too,
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if they were ever going to bring him in, not
come in with a runner on base or in the
middle of in any which he hadn't done before.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I'm sure this is different for every individual, but since
you played, maybe you know at what point in today's
world where you say you put too much stress on
the arm. Since everything is now pitch count one hundred pitches,
that's where you should be. You'll be able to recover
in time for your next start. All the study show
and our analytics prove it. Okay, we got that, but
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what's see top of the range here? How far can
you go before you're not going to be ready for
the next one or you threw too many pitches? And
I don't have that number. I mean, one hundred is
kind of the standard. Could you go one hundred and
thirty pitches and be fine?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, I don't think there's an exact science to it.
I really don't. I don't think they have an exact
science to say this is the number, because remember, the
body is still human and there's still you know, we're
still studying it and still learning it. So to say
that one hundred pitches you're all right, and one hundred
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and five pitches, oh my god, you can't pitch for
three days four days now, I don't think we ever
find that out. And it all depends because every individual
is different as well, So I don't think you ever
find that out. And it really is the makeup of
that individual's body of how they respond to things.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Okay, let's go to Wittier. It is lying three ed.
Would you keep him in or take him out?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Like Doc said, thanks Rogan Rodney for taking my call.
Like Dog said, it's a hard decision. I liked taking
him out, though I liked to bringing in Roki. I mean,
Roki had proven in this postseason that he's the guy,
he's our closer. Yeah, he ran into some issues, but
then also too, you know, Roki hasn't been there where
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guys on base, so it was maybe even a good
little taste for Roki to to battle through. Yeah, you
had to bring in Trying and who ended up getting
it done, But you weren't dealing with the bottom of
the lineup right there. I think it was seven eight nine,
and then you know, that's when Trying started coming in.
After that, I do like it, you know, but now
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was dealing without a doubt regardless a huge win, a
win we needed for sure. Hopefully they get him tonight.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Appreciate the call. I like that.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
You know what he said was maybe at the end
of the day, this was a good thing for Sazaki
to taste a little bit of pressure, you know, as
we go forward, because up until then when they brought
him in in those closing situations. He's been nothing but
lights out right. He's been really unhittable and really hasn't
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faced any kind of adversity, and maybe him facing that
a little bit with the Brewers can be very helpful
going forward.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Let's go to line nine. Jim is in Jackson, how wyoming?
Listening on the app? How you doing, Jim? What would
you do?
Speaker 6 (31:34):
I'm doing good today, Guys. I would have left him
in because of everything else. Everybody else is saying he
was dealing, He's nasty, he deserved it. But you know what,
that's Dave's decision. And I agree with the previous caller,
Sasaki needed to come in and maybe sail a little
and get a taste of that. You know, he's been
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on just a straight trajectory up and now he needed
to mellow out a little and maybe that'll benefit him
moving forward. And Roberts also showed his trust in trying
and by bringing him in in that situation, And I
think tryinga needed that for his confidence, because you're gonna
need trying in this series. These are now seven game
series and not best three out of five.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Hey, how's the weather? In Jackson Hole.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
By the way, it's like forty eight degrees and a
little rain showers off and on today.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
But the are you yet? Are you skiing yet?
Speaker 7 (32:29):
No?
Speaker 6 (32:30):
No, no, no, not yet. About another month before that happens.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, all right, I'm coming up again. I'm coming up.
Speaker 8 (32:37):
Hey.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
And one other thing, Rodney fight on. That was a
great win by our Trojans the other year.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, fight on. Goodness see yeah, good
to see that.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
We can play big ten Smat's mouth because football, right, and.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
We're gonna We're gonna do it again in South Dump
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Damn right, all right, Jim, all right, you know what
we'll do. We've still got people on hold Gino's are
stevens Felix is there? Paul is there? Yeah, let's take
him for it. Take them out or leave him in.
We'll finish the calls up when we come back.
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Speaker 1 (34:27):
All right, let's get to the rest of the calls
here as we wrap up the first hour, Jack harrins
at the time, so join us from Milwaukee at the
top of the one o'clock hour. Here's your question, Blake
Snow we believe that he should have stayed in the
game and gone nine. Does anyone agree with Dave Roberts
who said I was fifty to fifty on it, but
when all shook out, I decided we were going to
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the bullpen? All right, let's go to Paul. Paul, thanks
for holding What do you think.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
I would have left him?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Man?
Speaker 9 (34:55):
He was legendary. Beyond legendarya is historic. Only one other
picture has done what he did. Twenty four up, twenty
four down and against a lineup like that. Let's not
forget and the other picture. Don Larson, Hey, you kids
out there, take a look at how many Hall of
Famers that Rodgers had when he perfect gained them for
what had been till a couple of years ago, the
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only no hitter in the playoffs. I would have left
him in. But okay, he took him out and he
stuck by what we as fans understood the plan to
be go to Roki. Okay, So, and do I agree
with him taking out Roki in that situation after he
gave up a run and there was second and third, Yes,
But what I don't agree with and what I think
all fans of the Dodgers who watched every game like
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most of us did, why would he put in trying?
Speaker 6 (35:41):
And trying in is a zero?
Speaker 9 (35:43):
We would have home field advantage if it wasn't for trying,
and in this series we have the most blown saves
out of any team.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
You cannot go with trying.
Speaker 9 (35:53):
You can go with oh Tani, you can go.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
With all right, Paul, we got you, we got you,
we got you, we got you. The question is that
you kept Otani. If you're Game three or four starter,
you're not gonna go with Otani in that situation. I mean,
the question is would you keep smelling.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah, and and and I get it, but at some
point you you actually really are and if you've you
know it's hard. It is when a guy has delivered
for you in the past, and the guy has been
blights out for you when you've needed him most, and
you know that it's still in there. That's the I mean,
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that is the character in the mark of why the players,
anybody that's been around him and played for him love
Dave Roberts is that he's not just gonna give up
on you. And I know fans hate it, and I
know he struggled all year long, but as we we,
we are not going to win another.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
World Series without utilizing Blake trying to.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
It's just a fact. Blake Trying is going to be
on the roster. He's going to be in moments, and
they are not gonna get through this postseason without high
leverage situations that Blake Trying is gonna be in. That's
just a fact. He is a guy. They're not going
to Tanner Scott, They're not going to Kirby Yates, alex Vesia,
Blake Trinan Banda maybe, and obviously Suzaki, but just get
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ready for it. Tryning will be in the mix. Fred,
he is not going anywhere at this point. No, I
understand you gotta. I mean Tanner Scott now that's a
different story.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
But Trying's gonna sit there, and I guess he figured
he might as well give him a shot. Steven, thanks
for holding. What would you do? Okay? Sorry, Felix and
san Diego, what would you do?
Speaker 8 (37:49):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Gentlemen?
Speaker 8 (37:50):
Fight on Rodney, fight on fight on.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Right quick, guys.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
So yeah, the the prize is to bring not game
one of the NLCS need Snell for Game five, So
I'm all for pulling him. Now, without that loan hit,
he would have been pacing a perfect game. Then absolutely,
you keep him in. You let him finish the job.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, how about that and the loan hit. He ended
up picking the guy off and so he faced the
minimum through eight innings, which is really incredible, and that
the last caller said that that Don Larson was the
only guy and you know in the in the postseason
that that faced the minimum through eight plus innings and
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Blake Snell did that. I would have loved again. Look,
and you know my love for Dave Roberts. I would
have left Blake Snell in and allowed him to at
least face one batter to see where he is coming
out for the ninth. That didn't happen, and they chose otherwise.
And as Dave said, it was fifty to fifty on it.
So I would have been okay either way.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
All right, let's go over and gino. What would you
have done?
Speaker 7 (39:03):
Hey, gentlemen, Hi Dan, I know it's raining down there. Anyways,
beautiful day out here.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
I would have kept him in.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
I was saying, one fifteen at the most. Okay, I
got two things? Is that okay, gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, quick, go quick, okay.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
Yeah. I would have left them in.
Speaker 7 (39:21):
And then when Suzaki came in, got that out. That
was cool, and they showed him that twice. But he
was sweating on the second. Look when he looked at him,
he looked confused. After he walked the second the first guy,
and then when he walked the second guy, Robbers came
out and he's like he was baffled. And on the
first inning that was a Josekseko kind of playing and
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Kaoskar screwed it up twice. He should have scored it
from that single on second base. But it's okay. He
got to third, but he hesitated at third to go home.
But he was actually safe if it was in a
forest out.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
All right, Thanks, you know, appreciate that.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
Guys, have a good one.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
You take it easy. Last two? Uh, New Jersey.
Speaker 7 (40:07):
Here he comes, Hello, Mitch, how's it gonna fight on?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Ronnie?
Speaker 7 (40:14):
How you do?
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Ronnie?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Ronnie?
Speaker 7 (40:19):
I would have kicked you man.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
I wonder if he was pitching a.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
Perfect game, no hit or no hit it I wonder
Robins would have taken him out the Hello faith again?
Speaker 6 (40:28):
Five days rest. They pitch every five.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
Games, so the heck with the pitch count.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
And one more thing.
Speaker 7 (40:35):
I hope the hockey is gonna.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
Be staw next year because he's got good stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
All right, Thanks Mitch. Gotta wrap it up with a
voice of reason. When this person speaks, everybody listens clear
concise until the point. Our final call is Isabelle, Go ahead, Isabelle.
Speaker 10 (40:51):
Hey, guys, how are I do fine? Anyway? That's good?
Speaker 8 (40:56):
Anyway?
Speaker 10 (40:56):
This and I'll keep I'll be honest. I have no problems.
They rob me jigging mouth because what happened. You never
know what happened in nineteennings, and people don't you from
one thing, I got, get this. I'll try to helped
us last year, so stop rapping on try them sick
and tired of it, so I'm sorry. Okay, Well, have
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a good day, guys.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Isabelle, you do the same, Okay, all right, as we continue,
let's go to Milwaukee. We'll join Jack Harris at the
Times
Here we go, Fred Rogan Rodney Pete at five to
seventy LA Sports two hour program for us today as
the Dodgers try to make it two straight in Milwaukee
against the Brewers last night. So much to get into
about last night, and then we will obviously focus ahead.
By the way, Jack Harris of The Times will join
us at one o'clock. So we'll start with Blake Snell.
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What a magnificent performance. What an incredible outing by Blake Snell.
I mean, it probably was I think the best performance
of the year in Major League baseball. He was dominant,
he was dealing, he was owning them. He was in
complete command. And now, if you wonder why did they
sign Blake Snell aside in the fact Rodney said they should,
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last night was the perfect example of why he dominated.
He did his job. Not only did he give the
Dodgers a chance to win, but he was in the
game when they were ahead. So he was magnificent. And
you wonder to yourself as we get ready for the
ninth inning last night, he's over one hundred pitches. We
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know that. We also know years ago guys would throw
one twenty no problem. So we get into the ninth
inn and he looks spectacular, and you're wondering to yourself,
all right, we're gonna let him go. Let's just let
him finish this out. Let's get out of here. Sure,
anything could happen. There are no guarantees, but give him
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the way he's pitching rotten, You're thinking to yourself, let's
just send him out there and finish this up. I was.
I was certainly thinking let him go.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Just let him go, and if he happens to you know,
he happens to struggle, or he happens you start to
see signs of him, you know, maybe getting fatigued or whatever,
then you go get him in the ninth because he
was so dominant. And yeah, we you know, we the
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one hundred pitches, a threshold that a lot of managers
in club think about, Okay, how far do we let
him go over one hundred pitches? If they get to
one hundred pitches and we're gonna pull them. He was
right at one hundred, you know, before that ninth they ain't.
And man, just from the eye test alone, I'm letting
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him go go out for the ninth. I am letting
him go out for the ninth and there's a couple
of reasons, Fred and I yes, Roki Sazaki, and I
can understand the thought process because he has been lights out.
He's been unhittable coming out of the pen since he's
come back, and they've utilized him out of the bullpen
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as the closer and he's been basically named the official
closer of this team. He has been dominant, and he
has been unhittable as well. But in this series, if
you've got a chance to kind of save him and
not let the Brewers see him, if you don't have to,
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I think I might have would have wanted to save
him and let Blake Snell go finish it out. And
then the first time you see Sazaki is in game
two if you're winning, so you don't get to see
him multiple nights, you don't get to see him back
to back, or you don't get to see him in
that first game, and you're wondering what it's going to
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be like to see him firsthand. And yet we got
a wig, and to me, psychologically, we got away with
not having to go to Suzaki and win this ballgame.
So all those things kind of come into play, and
we're in my mind say, let Blake Snell finish it out.
You save Sazaki. They don't see him, and the first
time they get a chance to see him maybe is
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game two or even game three, depending on how it goes,
so you don't have to use him. So yeah, I
would have trotted Blake Snell out there.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Again. Fred Song comes down to this. If you're Dave Robertson,
you're sitting there and after the game, by the way,
he said, it was a fifty to fifty call fifty,
we keep him in, we take him out if you
trot him back out there. The positive fifty says he
closes it out. The concerning fifty says, oh, now he's
in trouble. Maybe not as Chris, maybe not as sharp,
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although from the naked eye watching he looked pretty sharp.
And Chris, yeah, maybe they look at it differently. So
now you have to wonder to yourself, Okay, just in
that moment, at that time, By the way, I err
on the side of what you said, Rodney, I would
let him go. He was going back out there. I
couldn't believe it when they took the shot of him
and he's looking through the notebook and went, oh God, no,
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it's not time to look through the notebook and sit
there because you should be getting ready to go back out.
But the other side of it is already goes out there.
Now he gets in trouble. So you're thinking, now we
got Sazaki, but maybe more so, did you even want
him to get in trouble given the game he had?
And he was masterful, he was magnificent. So I get it.
(04:54):
I get it was a tough call. You and I say,
we would have stuck with him the phone lines. In
a bit, we'll ask people what you think that being said,
we go to the bullpen and here comes Suzaki. I
gotta be honest with you. I thought three pitches and
he didn't have it. I felt that, Yeah, is that weird?
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I felt he's going to be off tonight. It's been
too good.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's almost been like the law of averages, right, he's
been too good. The last three outings against the Phillies.
He was unhittable. They didn't know what they didn't know
what to expect, and they didn't know what hit him
when Sazaki came out of that pin, and he just
felt that at some point love averages was going to
catch up and love averages is going to get you.
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And I felt the same way that first hitter. I
was like, ooh, and then the second one, it just
it was he.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
He was missing. And it wasn't just missing, you know,
granted I there was.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
It's been questionable umpiring in both of these series, and
the ALCS and the NLCS.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
He got squeezed on a ninety eight mile an hour fastball. Yeah,
right on, right on the right on the letter box.
Yeah he got squeezed. Yes he did, Yes he did.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And so with that and then also you know, him
missing some I just thought, and this is a team
that grinds you. They're much like the Dodgers read when
it comes to passing a baton and getting to the
next guy and making a picture work and working the count.
They're much like the Dodgers in that way that they
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will grind you, grind you, grind you. They're not going
to chase, although it's ironic that the game ended on
a chase, but that's not a team that does that
very often. And so they were very disciplined. When Sazaki
came in, and maybe that was the scouting report that
he nibbles around the edges and and he certainly didn't
get any calls, and they certainly made him work.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Felt the same thing. It's like, ooh, he's not as sharp,
he doesn't have what he has. And also he was
not hitting a hundred either. He was ninety seven ninety eight.
He was not hitting one hundred along the way, so
it was different.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
So then you know we got a problem here. Right.
So I'm thinking, all right, there's one answer to this question.
One alex Vesia. He's up throwing now, righted, he's throwing,
and so is Trying. But I'm thinking this is it
time to go to Vessia. So here comes like tryning. Okay,
so here he comes now, and you're thinking, oh no, no, no, no,
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no no. He really doesn't help matters much until he
gets rang to strike out. I thought that was pivotal,
maybe for the confidence of trying, maybe the decision Dave
Roberts made. But the thing is this, as you watch
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that game, I'll think about this. Milwaukee's got the bases loaded.
One run to tie, you only need one. You can
do anything to get that run across, anything anything to
get that run across and tie it up. So here's
the thing. Trying comes inside left headed hitting Terrang, here's
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Tryning's pitch. Oh no, it's headed, it's headed for his leg,
it's low, and Terrang does what almost anybody would do
in that situation, get out of the way. Accept, Accept,
And I ask you this if you're thinking about it.
In that situation, the bases are loaded, one run to tie,
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you're in the bottom of the ninth. Here comes the pitch. Yes,
you'll give the impression you're trying to get out of
the way. Of course you're not just gonna stand there,
but there are ways to get out of the way
and then get right into the pitch to hit with it.
If he got hit with that ball, the game is tied.
Do you think in a similar situation, Rodney, the Dodgers
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would have figured out a way to get hit in
that situation and have the time.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Run score depends on who's up at the plate, to
be honest with you, If at the plate, no, he's
getting out of the way. If Mooki's at the plate,
he's getting out of the way. Freddy's at the plate,
he's getting out of the way. You think, guys, I
think Freddy gets out of the way, because I've seen
Freddy get out of the way. And I've seen obviously
we've seen Freddy get hit. But you know, I think
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maybe Munsey is a guy that is so savvy at
the plate that he sees it early enough that he
allows it to hit him. I think Kei k A
is a guy that's savvy at the plate that will
allow it to hit him. Tioskar's swinging away or Tioskar's
getting out of the way, he's not letting it hit him. Uh,
there's a number. Tommy Edmonds maybe a guy that lets
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it hit him.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
What Will Smith let it hit him? He's uh, he
might know. I think I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I think Will Smith is a guy that mentality wise,
I'm I'm gonna get the base hit to win it.
And that's the difference. You know, you got guys going
up to the plate thinking bases loaded, a base hit
wins the game. I'm looking for a base hit to
win the game. I'm not looking to tie this thing
up or get hit by a pitch. So I'm looking
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for a specific pitch in the zone. And that's where
my mindset is not to go up there to walk
and if a guy goes up there, look I'm going
to I'm gonna stretch this picture out. I'm gonna make
him make every single pitch, and I'm gonna take until
I got two strikes, and if it's close, i'm gonna get.
I'm gonna let it hit me. Then that's a different guy.
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But most guys will go up there and go, this
is my opportunity to get a base hit and win
this game. And I am not. I'm not going to
just let a pitch hit me, and instinctial it's difficult.
Blake trying Let's not forget Blake trying to throws whiffle balls.
So it's not like you can say, ooh, an inside
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pitch is gonna come, keep coming inside. Blake Tryning has
more movement on his pitches than anybody in baseball, so
anything that looks like it's inside may end up over
the plate. And it's a hard judgment in a split
second to say, oh, this is coming inside, it's gonna
stay inside. I'm gonna stay in there and get and
take the hit. You can't make that decision. It's very
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difficult to make that decision. So I don't fault him
at all for not taking that pitch on the thigh
or anywhere else he could got hit.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
All right, just talk about the play with the Dodgers
at the bases loaded, and then for certainly the most
bizarre double play of the year, at least for the Dodgers.
Maybe in baseball fly ball deep center Felick goes back,
jumps up the balls in his glove, it pops out,
it hits the wall. He catches the ball off the wall.
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Then the fun begins. It turns into a double play.
Imagine if that ball had been hitting the gap, Dodgers
could have scored three they had the bases loaded one
out instead, the inning is over, Rodney, what were you
thinking when you saw that? I, first of all, I
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thought it was out. I thought it was a home
run in Grand Slam.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I thought Max got it because the way he looked
when he left the box, it was like I got it,
and he kind of jogged out of the box. And
then when I saw it, I was okay, at the
very least, we score a run, and now it's first
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and third or second and third with two outs. Never
did I think it was going to be a full
on double play. And at the very least I thought
the runner on third. First of all, the ball hits
to the wall in center field, the runner on third,
which was Taoskar r Nandez. There is absolutely no way
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in the world where you shouldn't score in that situation,
regardless of what happens. No matter what happens, you gotta score.
You gotta score. So a ball hit that far, if
it's caught cleanly, you tag up and you score. A
ball hit that far and he drops it, or it
bounces off the wall, you gotta score. No matter what happens.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
You gotta score. So a ball like that, you're taught
to go back to third base, stay on the bag.
If it's if he drops it, or if it hits
off the wall, you're gonna score easily anyway. If he
catches it, you're gonna tag and score easily anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Get back to the bag, Stay on the bag. As
soon as it touches his glove, you go. What happened
was it bounced off his glove, off the wall. He
caught it again. Ta Oscar thought he had to go
back to third base, and he did, which made him late,
and he threw the ball home and got a force
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out at the plate because basically loaded, so he misjudged
it and in that moment I get it. It's a
little bit confusing because you don't know if it's in
that moment you're thinking, oh, he caught it, So I
got to go back and tag again. But the reality
of the rule is as soon as it touches somebody's glove,
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then a runner whoever's tagging up, can go.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Even you don't have to have possession.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You don't have to have possession. As soon as it
touches his glove. It could bounce off his gloves twenty
times and you can go the moment it touches his
glove the first time, and that was something out I
don't think ta Oskar was aware of. So he went
back the tag, which made him late to go to home.
They got the force. Will Smith did not see exactly
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what happened either thought he couldn't get the third base,
so he didn't go. And Contrera's the catcher, was the
only one I think that had the wherewithal and knew
exactly what was going on, and he ran to third
base to get the double play. And I thought at
that moment, fred I thought, well, usually the umpires are
the ones you blame because they don't they don't make
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a decision. They let it happen, and you're you're relying
on the umpire to make a decision and to determine
whether or not you go. It's a catch, it's a
ow Is it safe? Is it a hit?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Well, they showed the replay and the left field umpire
in that moment was signaling safe, safe, safe, like it's
a hit. Soon as it hit the wall, it's a hit. Right,
he didn't bounce, it didn't bounce up in the air,
and he caught it again it hit the wall, so
once it hits the wall, it's it's actually a hit,
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so it's not an out. So he's signaling safe right away,
and I I was ready to blame him, but then
I saw the replay and he was signaling safe right away.
So if you're watching him and seeing him say safe,
then you understand. And Will Smith wasn't watching him either.
He's watching the play. It's which is difficult to watch
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two things at the same time because it was a
bizarre play. But he's signaling safe, which means that in
every every runner on base can go. Now you should
be able to go.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Dave Roberts came out and talked to him afterwards, and
he was asked, what were you talking about? Where he complaining.
He goes, no, I just wanted to know what happened.
I couldn't tell what happened. It was very and then
I was confused, quite honestly, because I thought if when
you looked at the replay, Friedler goes up to make
the play, it kicks off his glove and it hit
the yellow line, So then I'm thinking that's a whole
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run if it hits the yellow line. Yeah, But I
think it has to go over the yellow line. Yeah.
I thought the yellow line is the marker. Is the marker.
It's like the top of the wall, they basically, and
if it goes above that, then it's a home run.
But if it hits that, then I guess it's still
in play. Yeah. I never understood why, you know these
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have that.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
It used to be very prevalent in what the seventies
and early eighties. Then new ballparks were constructed and most
of them don't have that yellow line anymore. There are
a few still that have it. I never liked the
yellow line because it's so hard to determine, especially during
the regular season where you don't have six umpires, you
only have really four, and that umpire who's umpire in
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second base or first base, has to run down the
line to see if it hit above the line or
below the line. I just never liked it build the
stadium where a home run is it going over the fence?
Over the fence is a home run, not hitting a line?
So I always hated that. But yeah, you're right, you
know there was questions of that too. But if you
look at the umpire, he said safe, safe, safe, which
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means that it's not a catch, it's.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
A hit, all right. So that takes care of Game one.
Back at it tonight, Game two. Freddie peroalto talk about
Blake SNeW Can we talk about him? Don't do a
little more on Blakes now snow? Hold on, hold on,
hold on, let's go to break. Come on, Yeah, you
want a little more Blakes now? I do right, let's
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do when we come back, Flowers.
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Speaker 1 (18:47):
Oh yeah, working my way back to you, baby. Rodney P.
Fred Rogan on a beautiful, glorious, rainy, rainy.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Tuesday in southern California. Is it a rare rainy day?
And is it really raining hard? It rained all morning,
just slowed down right now, but it started raining early
this morning and it's been raining up until about a
half hour ago. It slowed down a little bit, but
it's still sprinkling, but yeah, raining hard. The heavens opened
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up fit.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
There was some concern I know, if the Dodgers had
opened against the Cobs. Ted Sobol touched me last week
and said, well, if that Tuesday game is in LA,
it could be a problem because of rain. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, I don't know if they play it because they're
supposed to continue raining most of the day and you know,
the tarps would have been out, so we'll see, but
they Yeah. Concerns are obviously in the Palisades Malibu area too.
I think things are shut down because of the mud slides.
As we normally get here when the rain comes. But yeah,
I've been raining hard all day.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
All right, I will over the phone lines. If you
want to participate in this, you can eight of six
ninety seven, two five seventy. Rodnie's gonna have some thoughts
on Blake's snout. And the question is, if you're Dave Roberts,
do you let him finish the game? Last night? Dave
said it was fifty to fifty. He aired on the
side of taking Let me let me guess what the
calls are going to be. Half of them are going
to be right, get rid of Dave Roberts. What the
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hell is he thinking about? Why would you? Why would
you never? Why would you take him out? I don't understand.
He should be fired bringing Sazaki in. He should be
fired for bringing trying in. Should he be fired for
getting on the plane and going to Milwaukee? You should
be fired for putting that uniform.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Lot that son of a Yes, he should be fired
for all of those things. All right, seventy would you
want him?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Go ahead? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
No, I just wanted to say real quick, I know
we're going to get to the calls. I I just
got to got to he when when you look up
and you go back to the off season, and the
regular season was up and down. It was nail biting,
and you wondered if the Dodgers are going to be
ready for the postseason because of all the injuries, especially
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to their starting pitching staff. But when Andrew Friedman, Dave Roberts,
and the whole staff decided what they were going to
do their approach to the offseason, they knew that they
could not get away with what they got away with
last year when they won the World Series and having
the multiple bullpen games that they did. The bullpen was incredible.
Don't get me wrong, the bullpen won the World Series
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form last year, they were phenomenal. But you can't have
a steady diet of that. If you don't have started
pitching pitching that is going to get you through sixth
inning or seven inning of games throughout the regular season,
you're going to be in trouble because you can't rely
on a bullpen to be that you successful and consistent
and sustainable throughout the entire season. And the Dodgers were
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able to get away with that last year in the playoffs.
So they went out and they got already pitching and
they made sure they secured their starting pitching. One of
the guys obviously they got. Which I was pushing for
before he went to San Diego, before he went to
San Francisco, was go get Blake Snell. I just thought
that in a Dodger uniform, with a Dodger offensive lineup,
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with the culture of the Dodgers, Blake Snell would thrive
in this environment. He he is that guy. Fred We've
talked about this over years that the Dodgers go about
their business business like. They've got a number of guys
on that team that you know, show up to work,
bring their lunch, paal, they don't. They keep their head down.
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There's not it's not flash. It's just the way they do.
It's very very business like. Blake Snell is a little
bit different than that. Blake Snell has got attitude all
up and down his body off the field. He is
that dog that I keep talking about that you got
to have on every team, that that outlier, that guy
that in a in a back room fight, in an
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alley fight, you want him on your side. And every
time he trots out there, especially in the postseason, it's
almost like he's built for the postseason, Like he's like, Okay,
I'm gonna show you a little glimpse of it during
the regular season, but when we get to the postseason,
you're gonna find out who I really am. And he
has got attitude up and down his body. I love
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everything about him, the way he approaches it, the way
he wants to step on your throat when he pitches,
down to the point where he calls his own pitches.
I don't know people were aware of this until last
night when they really overstated it. But he's calling his
own pitches. He's not allowing Will Smith to call it.
Most of the time, the catchers are calling the pitches
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for the pitcher and calling the game for the pitcher.
Blake Snell is calling his own game. He is spending
the time studying the hitters. He is spending time studying
the swings. He's spending time looking at his card in
between pitches, in between batters, and he is the one
that is telling Will Smith this is what I'm throwing here.
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I thought that was remarkable to put all that burden
on him and still be as effective as he is.
And yes, I wanted him to go finish that game
one hundred percent because I think that they were so
intimidated by him and had no chance of hitting him.
Let him finish it out. And I think I think
if he's in a similar situation going forward, and whether
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it be the rest of these NLCS or the World Series,
I think Dave Roberts lets him go Fred.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I think he lets him finish it out. No, I
think he'll give him the shot to after what we
saw last Yeah, sure sure. By the way, I liked
it that he's calling his own pictures. I'm the guy
throwing them. Yeah, I'm throwing them. I know what it
feels like. Yeah, let me let me tell you what
I'm throwing here. I guess Will Smith could disagree. It'd
be the first time the catcher ever shook off the picture.
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But yeah, I'm throwing them. So I know what I
want to throw, and I know how I feel, and
I've done the homework and I've done the preparation. And
they probably talked before the game, the two of them,
what should we think about here? What should we think
about there? And then he throws what he's comfortable with.
Doesn't know Tony calls on pitches too.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
That's a good question. I don't know if he does.
I don't know that for a fact. I know he's
got the thing on it. I know he's got the thing. Yeah,
and they all have the things Blake's got buttons. Yeah, yeah,
I'm not shaking off. I think Otani maybe shakes off.
I don't know if he's got the button. I don't
see him pushing the button like Blake was pushing the button.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You don't see that. I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I haven't seen that from otime at least, maybe I
haven't noticed it. But maybe he does, maybe doesn't, but
it's very noticeable that Blake was because you know, as
a pitcher, Okay, I'm watching that guy swing at my
change up and he's nowhere close. Why Why am I
going fastball here? Why am I going curveball here where
he can't hit my change up? And I'm gonna throw
it until he can hit it, and I feel good
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about it. I'm throwing it better than I'm throwing my curveball.
I know, maybe this situation calls for a curveball, will
and you call it, But for me, I'm telling you
my changeup is unhittable right now, and I'm throwing it
extremely well, that's what I want to throw in this
moment and I think a pitcher knows that better than
the catcher, even though the catcher calls the game.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
All right, would you have left him in? Should he
have gone all? Nine? Eight, six, six, nine, eighty seven
two five seventy we'll get started here, Danny in Pacoima,
thank you for holding? And what would you have done?
Taken him out or left him in?
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I would have left him in? I mean, why, why
why he was dealing? He's like in mid season four him.
Didn't he miss the half of the season. I mean
he's he was in great shape, great sheap, no stress,
no no stress, no no no stress on the any
any he was cruising.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Well.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I think a lot of people are n thanks for
the call. Yeah, yeah, until until he does get that stress.
And I think the thought process too, is that, do
you want him to get stressed in the ninth inning?
Maybe because he's gone eight, Let's let's throw them something
different in this moment. You know, there's there's all those
things that go into it. But yeah, I'm with I'm
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with I'm with Danny to call her man if he's
not showing any stress, he's only at one hundred pitches,
He's not at a one hundred and twenty. Let him,
let him go taste the first batter. If he gets
the first batter out or he struggles with that first batter,
then okay, then maybe you got to pull him.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Let me ask you something I don't think was it too?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Was it two one or two oh started that ninth inning?
I'm sorry, Fred, what with it did did the Brewers
get a run before that? The bottom of the ninth
did they get a run or was it two oh
going into the bottom of the night.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I think it's two old going into the knife. Yes,
two old going into night.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
So yeah, that on top of that, maybe I would
have let him go because you got room for him
to taste the first batter. The batter if he walks
him or it's a base it you bring in Sazaki,
you're trying. But I also get the fact that they
wanted Sazaki to come in with a clean inning too,
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if they were ever going to bring him in, not
come in with a runner on base or in the
middle of in any which he hadn't done before.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I'm sure this is different for every individual, but since
you played, maybe you know at what point in today's
world where you say you put too much stress on
the arm. Since everything is now pitch count one hundred pitches,
that's where you should be. You'll be able to recover
in time for your next start. All the study show
and our analytics prove it. Okay, we got that, but
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what's see top of the range here? How far can
you go before you're not going to be ready for
the next one or you threw too many pitches? And
I don't have that number. I mean, one hundred is
kind of the standard. Could you go one hundred and
thirty pitches and be fine?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, I don't think there's an exact science to it.
I really don't. I don't think they have an exact
science to say this is the number, because remember, the
body is still human and there's still you know, we're
still studying it and still learning it. So to say
that one hundred pitches you're all right, and one hundred
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and five pitches, oh my god, you can't pitch for
three days four days now, I don't think we ever
find that out. And it all depends because every individual
is different as well, So I don't think you ever
find that out. And it really is the makeup of
that individual's body of how they respond to things.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Okay, let's go to Wittier. It is lying three ed.
Would you keep him in or take him out?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Like Doc said, thanks Rogan Rodney for taking my call.
Like Dog said, it's a hard decision. I liked taking
him out, though I liked to bringing in Roki. I mean,
Roki had proven in this postseason that he's the guy,
he's our closer. Yeah, he ran into some issues, but
then also too, you know, Roki hasn't been there where
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guys on base, so it was maybe even a good
little taste for Roki to to battle through. Yeah, you
had to bring in Trying and who ended up getting
it done, But you weren't dealing with the bottom of
the lineup right there. I think it was seven eight nine,
and then you know, that's when Trying started coming in.
After that, I do like it, you know, but now
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was dealing without a doubt regardless a huge win, a
win we needed for sure. Hopefully they get him tonight.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Appreciate the call. I like that.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
You know what he said was maybe at the end
of the day, this was a good thing for Sazaki
to taste a little bit of pressure, you know, as
we go forward, because up until then when they brought
him in in those closing situations. He's been nothing but
lights out right. He's been really unhittable and really hasn't
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faced any kind of adversity, and maybe him facing that
a little bit with the Brewers can be very helpful
going forward.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Let's go to line nine. Jim is in Jackson, how wyoming?
Listening on the app? How you doing, Jim? What would
you do?
Speaker 6 (31:34):
I'm doing good today, Guys. I would have left him
in because of everything else. Everybody else is saying he
was dealing, He's nasty, he deserved it. But you know what,
that's Dave's decision. And I agree with the previous caller,
Sasaki needed to come in and maybe sail a little
and get a taste of that. You know, he's been
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on just a straight trajectory up and now he needed
to mellow out a little and maybe that'll benefit him
moving forward. And Roberts also showed his trust in trying
and by bringing him in in that situation, And I
think tryinga needed that for his confidence, because you're gonna
need trying in this series. These are now seven game
series and not best three out of five.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Hey, how's the weather? In Jackson Hole.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
By the way, it's like forty eight degrees and a
little rain showers off and on today.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
But the are you yet? Are you skiing yet?
Speaker 7 (32:29):
No?
Speaker 6 (32:30):
No, no, no, not yet. About another month before that happens.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, all right, I'm coming up again. I'm coming up.
Speaker 8 (32:37):
Hey.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
And one other thing, Rodney fight on. That was a
great win by our Trojans the other year.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, fight on. Goodness see yeah, good
to see that.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
We can play big ten Smat's mouth because football, right, and.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
We're gonna We're gonna do it again in South Dump
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Damn right, all right, Jim, all right, you know what
we'll do. We've still got people on hold Gino's are
stevens Felix is there? Paul is there? Yeah, let's take
him for it. Take them out or leave him in.
We'll finish the calls up when we come back.
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Speaker 1 (34:27):
All right, let's get to the rest of the calls
here as we wrap up the first hour, Jack harrins
at the time, so join us from Milwaukee at the
top of the one o'clock hour. Here's your question, Blake
Snow we believe that he should have stayed in the
game and gone nine. Does anyone agree with Dave Roberts
who said I was fifty to fifty on it, but
when all shook out, I decided we were going to
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the bullpen? All right, let's go to Paul. Paul, thanks
for holding What do you think.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
I would have left him?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Man?
Speaker 9 (34:55):
He was legendary. Beyond legendarya is historic. Only one other
picture has done what he did. Twenty four up, twenty
four down and against a lineup like that. Let's not
forget and the other picture. Don Larson, Hey, you kids
out there, take a look at how many Hall of
Famers that Rodgers had when he perfect gained them for
what had been till a couple of years ago, the
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only no hitter in the playoffs. I would have left
him in. But okay, he took him out and he
stuck by what we as fans understood the plan to
be go to Roki. Okay, So, and do I agree
with him taking out Roki in that situation after he
gave up a run and there was second and third, Yes,
But what I don't agree with and what I think
all fans of the Dodgers who watched every game like
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most of us did, why would he put in trying?
Speaker 6 (35:41):
And trying in is a zero?
Speaker 9 (35:43):
We would have home field advantage if it wasn't for trying,
and in this series we have the most blown saves
out of any team.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
You cannot go with trying.
Speaker 9 (35:53):
You can go with oh Tani, you can go.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
With all right, Paul, we got you, we got you,
we got you, we got you. The question is that
you kept Otani. If you're Game three or four starter,
you're not gonna go with Otani in that situation. I mean,
the question is would you keep smelling.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah, and and and I get it, but at some
point you you actually really are and if you've you
know it's hard. It is when a guy has delivered
for you in the past, and the guy has been
blights out for you when you've needed him most, and
you know that it's still in there. That's the I mean,
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that is the character in the mark of why the players,
anybody that's been around him and played for him love
Dave Roberts is that he's not just gonna give up
on you. And I know fans hate it, and I
know he struggled all year long, but as we we,
we are not going to win another.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
World Series without utilizing Blake trying to.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
It's just a fact. Blake Trying is going to be
on the roster. He's going to be in moments, and
they are not gonna get through this postseason without high
leverage situations that Blake Trying is gonna be in. That's
just a fact. He is a guy. They're not going
to Tanner Scott, They're not going to Kirby Yates, alex Vesia,
Blake Trinan Banda maybe, and obviously Suzaki, but just get
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ready for it. Tryning will be in the mix. Fred,
he is not going anywhere at this point. No, I
understand you gotta. I mean Tanner Scott now that's a
different story.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
But Trying's gonna sit there, and I guess he figured
he might as well give him a shot. Steven, thanks
for holding. What would you do? Okay? Sorry, Felix and
san Diego, what would you do?
Speaker 8 (37:49):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Gentlemen?
Speaker 8 (37:50):
Fight on Rodney, fight on fight on.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Right quick, guys.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
So yeah, the the prize is to bring not game
one of the NLCS need Snell for Game five, So
I'm all for pulling him. Now, without that loan hit,
he would have been pacing a perfect game. Then absolutely,
you keep him in. You let him finish the job.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, how about that and the loan hit. He ended
up picking the guy off and so he faced the
minimum through eight innings, which is really incredible, and that
the last caller said that that Don Larson was the
only guy and you know in the in the postseason
that that faced the minimum through eight plus innings and
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Blake Snell did that. I would have loved again. Look,
and you know my love for Dave Roberts. I would
have left Blake Snell in and allowed him to at
least face one batter to see where he is coming
out for the ninth. That didn't happen, and they chose otherwise.
And as Dave said, it was fifty to fifty on it.
So I would have been okay either way.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
All right, let's go over and gino. What would you
have done?
Speaker 7 (39:03):
Hey, gentlemen, Hi Dan, I know it's raining down there. Anyways,
beautiful day out here.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
I would have kept him in.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
I was saying, one fifteen at the most. Okay, I
got two things? Is that okay, gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, quick, go quick, okay.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
Yeah. I would have left them in.
Speaker 7 (39:21):
And then when Suzaki came in, got that out. That
was cool, and they showed him that twice. But he
was sweating on the second. Look when he looked at him,
he looked confused. After he walked the second the first guy,
and then when he walked the second guy, Robbers came
out and he's like he was baffled. And on the
first inning that was a Josekseko kind of playing and
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Kaoskar screwed it up twice. He should have scored it
from that single on second base. But it's okay. He
got to third, but he hesitated at third to go home.
But he was actually safe if it was in a
forest out.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
All right, Thanks, you know, appreciate that.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
Guys, have a good one.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
You take it easy. Last two? Uh, New Jersey.
Speaker 7 (40:07):
Here he comes, Hello, Mitch, how's it gonna fight on?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Ronnie?
Speaker 7 (40:14):
How you do?
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Ronnie?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Ronnie?
Speaker 7 (40:19):
I would have kicked you man.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
I wonder if he was pitching a.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
Perfect game, no hit or no hit it I wonder
Robins would have taken him out the Hello faith again?
Speaker 6 (40:28):
Five days rest. They pitch every five.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
Games, so the heck with the pitch count.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
And one more thing.
Speaker 7 (40:35):
I hope the hockey is gonna.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
Be staw next year because he's got good stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
All right, Thanks Mitch. Gotta wrap it up with a
voice of reason. When this person speaks, everybody listens clear
concise until the point. Our final call is Isabelle, Go ahead, Isabelle.
Speaker 10 (40:51):
Hey, guys, how are I do fine? Anyway? That's good?
Speaker 8 (40:56):
Anyway?
Speaker 10 (40:56):
This and I'll keep I'll be honest. I have no problems.
They rob me jigging mouth because what happened. You never
know what happened in nineteennings, and people don't you from
one thing, I got, get this. I'll try to helped
us last year, so stop rapping on try them sick
and tired of it, so I'm sorry. Okay, Well, have
(41:19):
a good day, guys.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Isabelle, you do the same, Okay, all right, as we continue,
let's go to Milwaukee. We'll join Jack Harris at the
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