October 14, 2025 • 35 mins
Jack Harris from the LA Times joins us from Milwaukee ahead of Game 2 of the NLCS. We discuss USC's big win over Michigan and UCLA's 2 game win streak.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And we continue on fred Rogan Rodney Pete on a
five seventy l A Sports. It is game two of
the LCS. It'll be Freddy Peralta for the Brewers, Yoshiyamamoto
for the Dodgers, and the Dodgers would like to like
to come home up to one with the opportunity to
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wrap things up here at the stadium. So Rodney, let's
go to Milwaukee and join from the LA Times. Jack
Harris and Jack thank you for jumping on here.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, guys, how are you doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
A lot to unpack about last night before we look forward,
I want to start with that play. Bases loaded ball, hit,
Freelick tries to make a play and then everybody lost
concentration and couldn't figure out what happened. You were sitting there,
what were you thinking?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, in the moment, and then Milwaukee the press box
for he was pretty good. So in the moment it
looked like a catch. And I think that's the important
part to remember. You know, it's a play where it
looks like he just goes up and he bobbles it
and then he catches it. I don't think, especially if
you're a base runner, you're not really thinking about, oh
did it like deflect off of the wall and still
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in play. You know, when you look at the play,
the big mistake with Payoscar Hernandez the way MLB's catch
rule is written for situations like this, even if it
had been a catch but on a Bobblekaoscar Hernandez is
allowed once he tags third to go for home the
minute it hits the outfielders glove. He could bobble it
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ten times, but if he ultimately catches it, he can
go the minute it hits the glove. And the Dodgers
had a play like that earlier this season against the Mets,
so you know, Dave Roberts acknowledged it. He should have
known there. He didn't know the rule there. He had
a brain fart. He goes back to retag third base,
and that leads to the big mistake, which is him
not scoring the rest of that play. You know, it's
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tricky because you have the umpire out in left field
who's making the call that it's not attach. Will Smith
obviously doesn't see him. Dino Evil, if they'd base coach,
obviously doesn't see him. Really, I think the only person
who who knew exactly what was going on in that
whole play was William Contreras to be able to get
the ball at the plate, he doesn't tag pay Oscar
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because he knows it's a force out and then goes
straight to third to get the double play. So to me,
you know, that's the play that epitomizes why the Brewers
are tough. You have a guy making a great defensive
play in center field to rob a grand Slam, you
have the rest of the guys on the field knowing
how to handle the situation, and you have the Dodgers
coming up empty in that inning. You know, that's the
kind of wacky little play that the Brewers are good
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at doing. But credit to the Dodgers for settling down
after that overcoming it. Obviously Blake Snell putting up a
bunch of zero's helped. But yeah, a really weird play
in the moment that even like for this breakdown, like,
I had to watch it twenty times in that inning,
and twenty more times once I got home to really
figure out like exactly what happened there.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Here's the thing that confused me though, And I know
I'm wrong because I brought it up to people and
I went no, you're wrong, but I'm not sure why
I'm wrong. So Freelick goes to make the play, the
ball kicks off his glove and it hits the yellow line.
The yellow line is a home run? Am I correct?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
No, it's got to be over the yellow line. Okay,
do you think about Yeah, if you think about like
Chase Field, you know how they have the yellow line
on that wall and center. If it just hits that
yellow line, it's not a home run. It has to
be over it. So it's like the opposite of an
end zone in football, where you break the plane. It's
got to be all the way over the line. But yeah,
just another complicated part of that play. Trying to figure
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out exactly what happened.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, yeah, I actually in college we had a few
plays like that, and I remember our Coade's telling us
it doesn't matter, like for Tioscar, whether he catches it
or not. Soon as it touches his glove. If you're
going back to tag up, soon as it touches his glove,
the first person's glove, you got your gut, you're good.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Go.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, But he went back, as Jack said, he went
back and retagged, which made him slow to the plate.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
But that is a crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Play, as you mentioned that that Milwaukee has been winning
with all season long. They've had all those things go
their way and they ended up winning the game and
even late in the game and they get the bases loaded.
Those are the kind of games that Milwaukee wins and
has won, which gave them the best record in baseball.
Losing a game like that where all season long they've
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won those type of games, what do you think it
does to them? If anything, haven't given the fact that
the Dodgers were able to pull out that win.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, I think it's just like what I was thinking
in at ninth inning last night was the twenty twenty
one NLCS that the Dodgers played against Atlanta Braves, where
they got, you know, a similar situation. They were the
better team, but the lower seed, and they had to
go on the road to open that series and they
got walked off the first two games on you know,
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games that they should have won that the Braves stole.
And what happened in that series was it just left
the Dodgers with no margin for air the rest of
the way and they ultimately got eliminated in six games.
Last night could have been that same game for the
Brewers where they get dominated by Blake Snell, but they
stick around, they steal it at the end. And suddenly,
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even if you would, you know, even if the Brewers
had won last night, I think he still would have
liked the Dodgers chances in the series. But then they
don't have any margin for air, right if a starting
pitcher struggles or if a lineup goes through a slump
or whatever like, Suddenly it becomes a much much tougher
series to win for the Dodgers. Now, you know, Now
you look at it, you got six games. The Brewers
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have to try to win four of them. The Dodgers
have their pitching lined up where you're gonna have Yamamoto
pitching in two games and Blake Snell pitching again and
show Haotani getting a start back in LA and it's
not an unwinnable series for Milwaukee because their pitching is
also good. But to have to use as many guys
as they did on the Mountain last night, to have
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a chance to steal a game late like that, and
to not do it like if the Brewers were gonna
win this series, that's the kind of game to me.
It felt like they needed to get and the fact
that they didn't I think already takes a series that
you know it was when you look at a seven
game set between these teams, I mean, the talent disparity
just is what it is. It was always going to
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be tough for Milwaukee to win four games and to
not be able to steal on there, I think just
makes it even more of an uphill climb for them
as you look at the final, you know, six games
of the CENTLCS.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Let me give you a suminal moment, and I think
if it had been the Dodgers, that the player could
have gone differently. You got the sacks full, You got
Trenton on the hill, Terraan at the plate trying and
throws the pitches inside. If Terrang gets hit, run scores
game tied, he jumps out of the way. I bet
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you if Max Mountsey was up there, somehow he would
have looked like he was getting out of the way
but got hitting.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I don't know. I don't know, Fred, I felt you
were going to say something like that. I don't know,
And in that moment, in that moment, it's tough, all.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Right, What do you think, Jack?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It is yeah, I saw you know they Bryce Terrain
got asked about this last night. Pat Murphy got asked
about it. I mean their answer is yeah, basically, like
you know, Bryce Ring's like I wish I hadn't gotten
out of the way, but it's just an instinctual thing.
You see the ball coming in, You're probably not you know,
I think the tricky parties you're probably not thinking about
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getting hit in that situation, especially you know in that matchup,
like a right on left match, You're not.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
You're just you're not really thinking about like, well.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I'm gonna get one inside of it. I need to
like stick in the box to take. You're thinking about
trying to get a hit to win the game, and
you see a pitch coming in and you duck out
of the way of it. You know, there are, like
I will say, there are some guys that might have
the the press too to realize in that moment, oh
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let me get hit. But I don't think that that's
a very long list. Maybe Max Munsey's on their fred,
but uh, you know, that's just that was a tough thing.
And then he chases the fastball up and out of
the zone on the next pitch and and there were
for for all those other things that the Bruis did
well last night, like the Dodgers, you know, there were
a lot of those little moments I think, especially when
they're facing Dodger pitching, that they just didn't make the
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best swing decisions, the best decision to stay in and
get hitting. And that's what's tough about facing the Dodgers too. So,
but yeah, that that ninth inning could have gone a
lot worse for Blake try and in a lot of
different ways, but he was able to survive with a
little bit of luck in a big pitch at the end.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, no, I and I played with some guys in
college and know some guys and obviously in the league
that that that's their remo is that they go to
that plate and they're gonna they're gonna fight you any
way they can to get on base. And it has
to be that particular guy like I think of a
guy like Harrison Bader from Philly, he would he would
have taken that pitch and warn it and been on base.
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And you know there's certain guys in the league that
have a knack for that. Otherwise it's it's it's really
all instincts, and your instinct is to.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Tell you to get out of the way. Jack.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
A lot of talk letting Blake Snell finish the game.
You know, he's cruising, He's had one hundred pitches and
he is not even getting touched. I mean, it is
as effortlessly as I've seen him go out and throw
a game, and through eight innings. I'm sitting there going,
I don't care if you got Sasaki back there warming up,
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and he's the new phenom and he's the new toy
and all those things. Why not why not save him
and not let the brewers get a look at him
and just let Blake go enter the ninth and see
what happens.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, this is This was probably Dave Roberts's toughest pitching
decision of October, of this October so far. You know,
I think the thought process there a little bit is
okay that at the end of that eighth inning he
had a slightly longer at bat, his command was a
degree worse than maybe it had been earlier in the night.
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But when you get a pitcher's who's getting up over
one hundred pitches and it's pitching deeper into a game
than he has all season, You're going to be very
sensitive to any sign that he might be wavering at all,
especially because you know, the one thing the Dodgers have
really prioritized when it comes to Roki Sasaki is trying
to give him clean innings to come into. So you know,
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if you're Dave Roberts in that situation, you're basically deciding, Okay,
do I think that Blake Snell can get through the
entire ninth inning without anything going wrong? Because if a
guy gets on base and suddenly I feel like I
need to pull him, I don't really want to bring
Roki Sasaki in to a situation where there's runners on base.
I don't want to bring Blake Trynan into a situation
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where there's runners on base if I can avoid it.
And I think that became the calculus they've They've developed
so much trust so quickly in Roki Sasaki. And also
you know, factoring in that Blake Snell is going to
turn around and pitch on four days rest for Game
five of this series, that you know, in the moment,
like it's a really tough call, and obviously, in hindsight,
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it probably would have been better to send Blake Snell
back out there for the ninth I at least saw
could could see the reasoning for why you do it.
And I think the big takeaway is that moving forward,
even when you're debating between a potentially fatiguing starter in
Roki Sasaki, you've probably got to stick with the starter.
You know, Roki Sasaki is a one guy in that
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bullpen that I think the Dodgers were trusting that, Okay,
this is going to be a better matchup for us
over you know, pushing a you know, our starting pitcher
into an extra inning. But now you know, if you
look at his postseason and totality, pasaki fastball has kind
of slowly been creeping back down. It was only averaging
ninety eight last night. Part of why Jake Bauers was
able to hit it for a double. Obviously his command
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was in a show, and you got to remember, like,
this is a guy who was out for five months
and it's come back and only made what six appearances
now seven outings out of the bullpen. So the range
of outcomes for him is probably a little bit wider
than the Dodgers were expecting it to be. So in
the moment last night, I understood but I think moving forward,
if you're in a similar situation again, you probably got
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to stick with the starter because you saw how dangerous
it can be if you if you put even a
little bit too much trust in the current bullpen.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
We'll talk about. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
So that being said, Yamamoto goes whomever goes, right, Yamamoto's
been there several times this year already, so you kind
of got to feel that he can go the distance
if need be, He's in there. Are you next time
letting him go?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I mean, it depends on the situation. So I think,
especially like going into tonight's game. You know, Dave Roberts
described the ninth inning pitching decision last night. It's fifty
to fifty and he went with the bullpen. I mean,
especially for tonight, when I imagine Kisosaki they would like
to stay away from. When Blake trining, you know, he'll
probably be online, but you know, now the Brewers have
down to look at him. If there's another fifty to
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fifty call to night going into the seventh or the eighth,
or maybe the ninth, I would imagine that the Dave
Roberts is going to be a little more willing to
ride his starter out, and to his credit, like every
game before last night's in this postseason, he has extended
the leash for the starter when there's ever been a doubt.
So I think that's going to be kind of what
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you see in the takeaway for him from what happened
last night.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
That being said, you talk about Yamamoto all right, not
as sharpest outing last time against the Phillies. How do
you think he fares against the Brewers? Jack?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, I mean, I think this is really for all
the Dodger pitchers. The big test of this series is
can you attack in the zone against the Milwaukee team
that doesn't chase very much and just kind of beat
them with your best stuff over the plate. That's what
Blake Snell did really well last night. He was getting
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ahead early in the count. He was throwing really really
good pitches in the zone that the Brewers couldn't do
anything with, and then when he got him to two strikes,
he did get him to expand and chase and got
the ten strikeouts. And that's going to be the plan
for everybody on the Dodger staff. I think Yamamoto in particular,
the one thing he has struggled with at times this year,
is getting a little too fine with his pitches, nibbling
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a little bit too much around the corners. If you
do that against this Brewers team, you could walk some batters.
They will take those pitches, they will drive your pitch
count up, and they can get you out of the
game early. So I think for him, like everybody else
in this Dodger rotation, you got to establish in the
zone at the start of the count. You got to
trust that your stuff is too good for a team
that does not have the talent of hitters that a
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team like the Philadelphia Phillies had is going to be
able to do damage on it. Yeah, they might string
together a few singles, but you got to trust that
you can get guys out over the plate with your stuff,
and then if you do get him to two strikes,
that's when you can expand the zone, try to get
some change, try to get some strikeouts. I think Blake
Snell provided the perfect template last night, and if you,
as you know, Yamamoto can follow it, I think it
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could be really another strong outing for this Dodger rotation.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, given the fact that we're, you know, now the
Dodger rotation and people have talked about this, but they
have kind of played it perfectly that now everybody's healthy.
Even Glass now was dominant his last doubting the fact
that the Dodgers won last night. How how much of
a must win is this for Milwaukee today?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, I mean it's big, and I think it's a
must win for them because they're going to have obviously
their best pitcher on the mound and Freddy Peralta. And
if you come out of these two home games and
you lost a bullpen game in which your relievers pitched
pretty well, and then you lose a game in which
your staff ace can't get a win, that's what you
really behind the eight ball. Going back to La So,
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I will say, like the Dodgers overall, especially some of
their left handed hitters, do have pretty good numbers against
Freddy Peralta. I think he's the kind of guy that,
you know, if the Dodgers can put a good game
plan together and execute it, you know, can do some
damage against But at the same time, he pitched pretty
well against them this year and obviously had a really
really good season all the way around when you look
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at his numbers, and was the National League wins leader
so this does feel kind of like I must win
for Milwaukee, and if you're the Dodgers, you know, it's
an opportunity to really take command of this series as
you go back to LA.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
All right, well, Jack, thanks for coming on as always,
thanks for the insight. We will chat again soon, all right,
thank you. Okay, you know what, I guess we need
to give you a chance to take a victory lamp.
So we'll do that next.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
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Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, two hours show for us today, quick sprint, as
we are in the midst of the thick of the
Major League Baseball playoffs, so we are at the mercy
of the games, and so till two hours today. I
think we got a full show tomorrow and then we're
short at a different time on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So we'll keep you posted. Brod keep Jonah said something
yesterday and we had not mentioned it, but it's a
valid point when it comes to the playoffs. Why are
they starting your game at three? I wait here. I
don't know. I never wanted that. I don't understand six
o'clock eastern on a Thursday. There's Thursday Night football that
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kicks at five twenty. Maybe they want to get a
jump on it, or eight twenty eastern. Maybe I want
to get a two hour jump on it. But I
think it's stupid now when you think about it. Why
are you playing at three in the afternoon in Los Ange?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, okay, so you don't want to go, you don't
want to I guess what, one hundred percent compete against
each other. But it's different times, different sports. You know,
started at a reasonable time. If you started at six
o'clock here on the West coast, it's still nine o'clock
on the East coast, people are still gonna watch at
nine o'clock. That's really prime time East Coast, right, So
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why are you starting at three in the afternoon where
there's you know, it's just, first of all, it's difficult
for the home team to get fans to get to
the ballpark because it's during rush hour and work time
and all that stuff. But then you know, from a
player's perspective, you don't want to play at three o'clock.
You want to You want it to be headed into
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the night time where the lights come on, and not
have to deal with all the shadows and all those
things that go on at three o'clock in the afternoon.
I don't care if it's Los Angeles or Kansas City.
It doesn't matter that three o'clock hour is not a
great time to play baseball. No, maybe we'll get some
sort of understanding on that down the road, because it's
just pretty stupid. We're gonna play three h eight on
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a Thursday afternoon, yeah, the League Championship Service, Yeah we're not.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
We had to make up a double header here.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
You got a chance for the sun, the shadows to play,
the elements to play a real factor in a ball game.
It just it doesn't make sense play it at the
optimum time for both teams to djust to it. And
you know, you could argue, if you're in Milwaukee, oh,
that's not good for us either, because we're coming out
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to the West Coast playing at three o'clock. Maybe the
Dodgers on you know, Dodgers obviously don't play a whole
lot of games at three, but in their mind, it's
like this is gonna be an advantage for the Dodgers
playing at three o'clock on the West Coast. They're used
to the time, they're used to the sun, they used
to where it is during the start of the game,
and so there's an advantage for the Dodgers to start
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this game at that particular time. So it doesn't work
for both teams. It doesn't work for the fans, it
doesn't work for the team, then one for the players.
It's just an odd time. And again, pushing it back
to three hours and starting at nine on the East
Coast is not going to kill anybody in New York
or Boston or anywhere else on the East Coast to
stay up for two hours, three hours to eleven thirty
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or twelve that watch the finish up a game.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, it makes zero sense. Okay, let's just do something
different here for a second. Go ahead and take your
victory lap fight on, go ahead, do it? Go ahead? Yeah? Ready?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah, what a great game, What a great atmosphere it did.
It was a throwback atmosphere at the Coliseum. I was
there at the game and to see it packed like
it was and people were ready for it. The tailgates
were what they were in the mid two thousands, and
everybody was excited and for USC to come out and
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play like they did.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Was extremely impressive. You know, they.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
You know and say what you want. There are people
make excuses about the Illinois game, and you know, the
early start basically nine o'clock start for the West Coast
teams even though you know it's eleven o'clock start there.
But they got off to a slow start, made a
game of it, had had it, you know, had to
lead with two minutes to go, end up losing.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
That game to Illinois.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And Illinois played well, but then have a week off
knowing that Michigan's coming to town, and Michigan is Michigan
four and one coming in here to the coliseum, started
playing well, had a you know, very exciting quarterback, and
they're what you call fred a physical Big ten team
coming to town. And how would USC match up. Well,
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let me tell you something. It was domination on both
sides of the ball for USC. That game was not
even close. It looked, you know close at one point,
but at the end of the day, US dominated on
both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
And if there's any doubt of whether.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Or not.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
USC or you know, the former Pac twelve can handle
or play physical football with the Big Ten. Please, let's
stop that narrative. The games have changed. This is not
nineteen seventy five where you're lining up running fifty times
a game and trying to run ball down people's throats.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
It is a you know, more of a finesse passing
game throughout college football. And yes, physicality matters, and it
does matter, especially defensively, in how you handle a certain team.
But the whole narrative that USC was not physical enough
to play in the Big Ten just it always baffled me. Well,
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what they did show, and they didn't have to show it,
but they did show it is that if you want
to play physical football with us, we can play physical
football because they manhandled Michigan in the trenches, ran the
ball down their throat and stop their run. So let's
stop with the narrative, Fred, that that USC can't handle
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physical football.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well, they sure could Saturday. They look like a different team.
They look like a different program, Rodney, can you at
least give me that. No, they look like a different program.
They don't look like a team, and I get it. Well,
they only lost by a couple of points. They're lost
this year. They don't look like a team hanging. They
look like a team that can win it. They look
like a different team.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
They are applying the pressure right as opposed to pressure
being on USC. They feel like a team that has
found their identity, and they are extremely balanced. They run
the football very well. And if you go back and
you look at the Lincoln Rally teams of Oklahoma and
even this first couple of years at USC, I know
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Caleb had a lot to do with that, but they
are a balanced team. Even though it looks like they're
you know, the past happy, you know, wide open offense
where he came from, and and throwing it all over
a lot. But when they're good, they're running the football
as well. And USC was extremely balanced and has been
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extremely balanced over the start of this season. And running
the football, I mean King Miller. Nobody even knew who
he was until Saturday night where he was forced to
go into the ballgame out of Calabasa's and he went crazy,
ran for you know, over one hundred and thirty yards
and just had a big night. I was so happy
for him. But yeah, they did. They looked like a
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team that could be in contention and they've got the
quarterback Fred that has got the demeanor and has got
the capability. If you need him to throw for four
hundred yards, he can do it. They've got the firepower
with the receivers that they can throw it all over
the lot and beat you that way. But they also
can line up and run the football as well, and
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that is the balance that you need, especially nowadays in
college football, to be able to be successful. But yeah,
I agree with you. They are definitely different than teams
of the past couple of years because they have talent
and they're effective running the football, throwing the football, and
more than anything, defensively they are much better. I think
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that is the glaring difference with USC this year is
that defensively they're able to stop teams when they're when
teams are trying to run the football and even throw
the football. But defensively they're much better than they've been
the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, a quick two minute shout out to UCLA. Well,
I'm probably wrong. Now they've won two games. They've won
two games. That was impressive.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
The Penn State one was really impressive that you thought
maybe that's you know, it's an anomaly. Penn State came
off the emotional loss to Oregon and they were not
ready to play.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
They thought it was going to be a cake walk
over Ucla.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
They got shelf shocked in the moment, got behind and
didn't know how to recover from it. And Penn State
maybe not the team that everybody thought they were to
start the season. I think coupled with UCLA being ready
to play in the transition from Deshaun Foster to Skipper,
Tim Skipper and new Huisville callon plays helped them propel
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them to win over Penn State. But then to go
back to Lancing East Lansing and beat Michigan State the
way they did, I mean not just beat them, but
beat them up. That was I got to give it
up too. That was extremely impressive for UCLA.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
What does that tell us Deshaun Foster couldn't coach. I mean,
they looked like a whole new program. With all due respect,
how did this happen? They were awful and you didn't
think they'd win a game. And now, look, I'm not
saying they're gonna win the rest. I'm not saying they're not,
but this is like an entirely different team now. In
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a span of two weeks.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yeah, it's it's uh, it's always unfortunate for the guy
that got fired when a team kind of finds itself
and starts to play well and play good football on
both sides of the ball. But they look like a
team in disarrayed, they didn't know what they were doing.
And now they look like a pretty good football team.
I mean that went over Penn State and then to
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go on the road like they did and dominate Michigan State.
It's impressed with UCLA at.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
You and they, I guess were one of the final
nails in the coffin for James Franklin. Mm hmm. That
was quick. That was fast. We're not putting up with that.
You're done. You can't lose to Ucla. Is that we
can't And then again you're finished. We can't even look
at you get out. I mean, that's kind of way.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
What fifty million dollar buyout, that's what That's what that
told us, that UCLA loss was we're willing to pay
fifty million dollars to let you go. Well, it was
also Northwestern back to back wings, twenty plus point favorite.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
That's really they probably would have lived with UCLA if
they would have run the table the rest of the way.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
But you can't lose to Northwestern. No, no, you can't.
That's tough. Tough for the program. Good for him, they
made fifty million dollars. No, he's gonna make it anyway, Fred, Yeah,
but no, he didn't have to do anything to get it.
Take a little time off, relax, settle in a bit.
Then if somebody wants off from a job at a
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off set is fifty million. See, it's a win win
for everybody here. If you're UCLA giving him a call?
Is UCLA giving him a call? Say?
Speaker 5 (28:51):
If you are UCLA, are you giving him a call?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
They get it the call and collect.
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Our weekly chat with a good friend, Jacob and Ronnie.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Jacob, how are you good afternoon?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
And gentlemen, how are you good?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Doing well? Jacob doing well? Doing well?
Speaker 3 (30:22):
After that nail Botterer last night with the Dodgers, man,
we're doing well.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
That was that was that was too close, you know,
loading up, you know, loading the bases. That was a
little too much. I don't know why they made it
so difficult, and so that was tough.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You know now, you're you're always you're You've been a
sports guy your whole life.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
You coach your kids.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I've had an opportunity to meet your kids and and
and your whole family. Man, and I love the fact
that you're you're heavily involved since you've been a partner
with the l a f C, the Lakers, is it
different when you watch games now as a partner as
opposed to where you were just a fan.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
You know, I think it's escalated for me, right because
you know as a fan, as you know Rodney, you know,
I'm a partner with the Lakers and you know the
Rams and la FC. But then you know, I see
you at the sc games and I'm a diehard fan,
I'm a I'm an alumni, I'm a you know, I'm
a Trojan for life. So for me, the whole sports
(31:34):
experience is very personal. I usually, you know, really get
involved with it, but now being a partner, I like
to go all in and now you feel like you
really literally and figuratively have a steake, Like right now,
you know, I just landed in Vegas. I'm here with
the Lakers for their preseason game, and you know, you
(31:56):
get to know everybody. You know Lawrence Tanner, you know
who's the announcer, you know at the stadium, you know
the executives, the people who work hard for all these teams.
You get a chance to get to know them and
really get to see what happens behind you know the scenes,
and then you get to enjoy what happens in front
even more because you realize how hard these guys work.
(32:17):
To put these teams together, and how hard it is
to be blessed enough to have these incredible teams. As
you know, LA sports fans, you know that we get
a chance to enjoy.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Hey, Jacob, I know tim is short for us today.
But with it raining, do you what should people do?
Do you have any tips for what to do in
a situation where it's raining.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Absolutely, I get gone through enough of them, and I've
had enough people call me and let me know why
they felt they were involved in an accident. And I
think the first thing I say during the rain do
not and a regular street, do not travel in the
lane's closest to the sidewalk. That's usually where all the
water piled up. There's a lot of inconsistencies on the road,
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a lot of you know, unsafe roads, and that's where
the water goes. And usually when you see somebody hydro
flexing in a regular street, it's because they hit a
bump or they hit an area that's full of water.
Same thing when you're on the freeway. What I tell
everybody is stay away from the lane that is closest
to the center divider that separates the two directions, because
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that's usually where a lot of the water gathers. Another
thing that's really important to be careful is you know
when you go into parking lots. I know a lot
of people don't talk about that, but a lot of
parking lots are very oily and when it gets wet,
it becomes super slippery, both for people who are walking.
I see a lot of people slipping and falling after
(33:46):
the rain in parking lots because of the oil, and
a lot of cars, you know, slippering and sliding around.
So those are important. And one of the things that
I really want people to know is that during the rain,
if you're keeping a two car distance with the car
in front of you, make it three. Make it three
car distance. And even more important than that, if you're
sitting at a light and the light turns and now
(34:09):
you have the green light, instead of immediately taking off,
count hit three and then take off. Because usually you know,
when it's not raining, if someone's trying to stop opposite
direction and they hit their brakes, usually the brakes will catch.
But when it's raining, they hit the brakes or they
try to go through it because they know if they
hit the brakes, they're probably gonna slide. They're going to
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try to run around of red lights, and I think
those red lights cause a lot of you know, accident.
So those are just some of the tips that I
hope our listeners can take from this conversation so that
they are safe, because we haven't had rain, guys in
a while, and we know what happens in LA when
it rains. We all forget how to drive. But these
extra things are things that I see happening every day.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Jacob, great advice, Enjoy Vegas.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Thank you and God.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Akers all right, go Lakers, Katie, thank you for filling
in for Ronnie today. Great work. Kevin appreciate it as well.
So we have Freddie Peralta and Yoshiyamamoto on the mound
Game two of the LC issue. We'll hear it here
on the radio station beginning at five. We're back tomorrow
in our regular time noon to three. Rodney, see you tomorrow.
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Absolutely
And we continue on fred Rogan Rodney Pete on a
five seventy l A Sports. It is game two of
the LCS. It'll be Freddy Peralta for the Brewers, Yoshiyamamoto
for the Dodgers, and the Dodgers would like to like
to come home up to one with the opportunity to
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wrap things up here at the stadium. So Rodney, let's
go to Milwaukee and join from the LA Times. Jack
Harris and Jack thank you for jumping on here.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, guys, how are you doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
A lot to unpack about last night before we look forward,
I want to start with that play. Bases loaded ball, hit,
Freelick tries to make a play and then everybody lost
concentration and couldn't figure out what happened. You were sitting there,
what were you thinking?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, in the moment, and then Milwaukee the press box
for he was pretty good. So in the moment it
looked like a catch. And I think that's the important
part to remember. You know, it's a play where it
looks like he just goes up and he bobbles it
and then he catches it. I don't think, especially if
you're a base runner, you're not really thinking about, oh
did it like deflect off of the wall and still
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in play. You know, when you look at the play,
the big mistake with Payoscar Hernandez the way MLB's catch
rule is written for situations like this, even if it
had been a catch but on a Bobblekaoscar Hernandez is
allowed once he tags third to go for home the
minute it hits the outfielders glove. He could bobble it
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ten times, but if he ultimately catches it, he can
go the minute it hits the glove. And the Dodgers
had a play like that earlier this season against the Mets,
so you know, Dave Roberts acknowledged it. He should have
known there. He didn't know the rule there. He had
a brain fart. He goes back to retag third base,
and that leads to the big mistake, which is him
not scoring the rest of that play. You know, it's
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tricky because you have the umpire out in left field
who's making the call that it's not attach. Will Smith
obviously doesn't see him. Dino Evil, if they'd base coach,
obviously doesn't see him. Really, I think the only person
who who knew exactly what was going on in that
whole play was William Contreras to be able to get
the ball at the plate, he doesn't tag pay Oscar
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because he knows it's a force out and then goes
straight to third to get the double play. So to me,
you know, that's the play that epitomizes why the Brewers
are tough. You have a guy making a great defensive
play in center field to rob a grand Slam, you
have the rest of the guys on the field knowing
how to handle the situation, and you have the Dodgers
coming up empty in that inning. You know, that's the
kind of wacky little play that the Brewers are good
(02:40):
at doing. But credit to the Dodgers for settling down
after that overcoming it. Obviously Blake Snell putting up a
bunch of zero's helped. But yeah, a really weird play
in the moment that even like for this breakdown, like,
I had to watch it twenty times in that inning,
and twenty more times once I got home to really
figure out like exactly what happened there.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Here's the thing that confused me though, And I know
I'm wrong because I brought it up to people and
I went no, you're wrong, but I'm not sure why
I'm wrong. So Freelick goes to make the play, the
ball kicks off his glove and it hits the yellow line.
The yellow line is a home run? Am I correct?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
No, it's got to be over the yellow line. Okay,
do you think about Yeah, if you think about like
Chase Field, you know how they have the yellow line
on that wall and center. If it just hits that
yellow line, it's not a home run. It has to
be over it. So it's like the opposite of an
end zone in football, where you break the plane. It's
got to be all the way over the line. But yeah,
just another complicated part of that play. Trying to figure
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out exactly what happened.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, yeah, I actually in college we had a few
plays like that, and I remember our Coade's telling us
it doesn't matter, like for Tioscar, whether he catches it
or not. Soon as it touches his glove. If you're
going back to tag up, soon as it touches his glove,
the first person's glove, you got your gut, you're good.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Go.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, But he went back, as Jack said, he went
back and retagged, which made him slow to the plate.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
But that is a crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Play, as you mentioned that that Milwaukee has been winning
with all season long. They've had all those things go
their way and they ended up winning the game and
even late in the game and they get the bases loaded.
Those are the kind of games that Milwaukee wins and
has won, which gave them the best record in baseball.
Losing a game like that where all season long they've
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won those type of games, what do you think it
does to them? If anything, haven't given the fact that
the Dodgers were able to pull out that win.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, I think it's just like what I was thinking
in at ninth inning last night was the twenty twenty
one NLCS that the Dodgers played against Atlanta Braves, where
they got, you know, a similar situation. They were the
better team, but the lower seed, and they had to
go on the road to open that series and they
got walked off the first two games on you know,
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games that they should have won that the Braves stole.
And what happened in that series was it just left
the Dodgers with no margin for air the rest of
the way and they ultimately got eliminated in six games.
Last night could have been that same game for the
Brewers where they get dominated by Blake Snell, but they
stick around, they steal it at the end. And suddenly,
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even if you would, you know, even if the Brewers
had won last night, I think he still would have
liked the Dodgers chances in the series. But then they
don't have any margin for air, right if a starting
pitcher struggles or if a lineup goes through a slump
or whatever like, Suddenly it becomes a much much tougher
series to win for the Dodgers. Now, you know, Now
you look at it, you got six games. The Brewers
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have to try to win four of them. The Dodgers
have their pitching lined up where you're gonna have Yamamoto
pitching in two games and Blake Snell pitching again and
show Haotani getting a start back in LA and it's
not an unwinnable series for Milwaukee because their pitching is
also good. But to have to use as many guys
as they did on the Mountain last night, to have
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a chance to steal a game late like that, and
to not do it like if the Brewers were gonna
win this series, that's the kind of game to me.
It felt like they needed to get and the fact
that they didn't I think already takes a series that
you know it was when you look at a seven
game set between these teams, I mean, the talent disparity
just is what it is. It was always going to
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be tough for Milwaukee to win four games and to
not be able to steal on there, I think just
makes it even more of an uphill climb for them
as you look at the final, you know, six games
of the CENTLCS.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Let me give you a suminal moment, and I think
if it had been the Dodgers, that the player could
have gone differently. You got the sacks full, You got
Trenton on the hill, Terraan at the plate trying and
throws the pitches inside. If Terrang gets hit, run scores
game tied, he jumps out of the way. I bet
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you if Max Mountsey was up there, somehow he would
have looked like he was getting out of the way
but got hitting.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I don't know. I don't know, Fred, I felt you
were going to say something like that. I don't know,
And in that moment, in that moment, it's tough, all.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Right, What do you think, Jack?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It is yeah, I saw you know they Bryce Terrain
got asked about this last night. Pat Murphy got asked
about it. I mean their answer is yeah, basically, like
you know, Bryce Ring's like I wish I hadn't gotten
out of the way, but it's just an instinctual thing.
You see the ball coming in, You're probably not you know,
I think the tricky parties you're probably not thinking about
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getting hit in that situation, especially you know in that matchup,
like a right on left match, You're not.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
You're just you're not really thinking about like, well.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I'm gonna get one inside of it. I need to
like stick in the box to take. You're thinking about
trying to get a hit to win the game, and
you see a pitch coming in and you duck out
of the way of it. You know, there are, like
I will say, there are some guys that might have
the the press too to realize in that moment, oh
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let me get hit. But I don't think that that's
a very long list. Maybe Max Munsey's on their fred,
but uh, you know, that's just that was a tough thing.
And then he chases the fastball up and out of
the zone on the next pitch and and there were
for for all those other things that the Bruis did
well last night, like the Dodgers, you know, there were
a lot of those little moments I think, especially when
they're facing Dodger pitching, that they just didn't make the
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best swing decisions, the best decision to stay in and
get hitting. And that's what's tough about facing the Dodgers too. So,
but yeah, that that ninth inning could have gone a
lot worse for Blake try and in a lot of
different ways, but he was able to survive with a
little bit of luck in a big pitch at the end.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, no, I and I played with some guys in
college and know some guys and obviously in the league
that that that's their remo is that they go to
that plate and they're gonna they're gonna fight you any
way they can to get on base. And it has
to be that particular guy like I think of a
guy like Harrison Bader from Philly, he would he would
have taken that pitch and warn it and been on base.
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And you know there's certain guys in the league that
have a knack for that. Otherwise it's it's it's really
all instincts, and your instinct is to.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Tell you to get out of the way. Jack.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
A lot of talk letting Blake Snell finish the game.
You know, he's cruising, He's had one hundred pitches and
he is not even getting touched. I mean, it is
as effortlessly as I've seen him go out and throw
a game, and through eight innings. I'm sitting there going,
I don't care if you got Sasaki back there warming up,
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and he's the new phenom and he's the new toy
and all those things. Why not why not save him
and not let the brewers get a look at him
and just let Blake go enter the ninth and see
what happens.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, this is This was probably Dave Roberts's toughest pitching
decision of October, of this October so far. You know,
I think the thought process there a little bit is
okay that at the end of that eighth inning he
had a slightly longer at bat, his command was a
degree worse than maybe it had been earlier in the night.
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But when you get a pitcher's who's getting up over
one hundred pitches and it's pitching deeper into a game
than he has all season, You're going to be very
sensitive to any sign that he might be wavering at all,
especially because you know, the one thing the Dodgers have
really prioritized when it comes to Roki Sasaki is trying
to give him clean innings to come into. So you know,
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if you're Dave Roberts in that situation, you're basically deciding, Okay,
do I think that Blake Snell can get through the
entire ninth inning without anything going wrong? Because if a
guy gets on base and suddenly I feel like I
need to pull him, I don't really want to bring
Roki Sasaki in to a situation where there's runners on base.
I don't want to bring Blake Trynan into a situation
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where there's runners on base if I can avoid it.
And I think that became the calculus they've They've developed
so much trust so quickly in Roki Sasaki. And also
you know, factoring in that Blake Snell is going to
turn around and pitch on four days rest for Game
five of this series, that you know, in the moment,
like it's a really tough call, and obviously, in hindsight,
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it probably would have been better to send Blake Snell
back out there for the ninth I at least saw
could could see the reasoning for why you do it.
And I think the big takeaway is that moving forward,
even when you're debating between a potentially fatiguing starter in
Roki Sasaki, you've probably got to stick with the starter.
You know, Roki Sasaki is a one guy in that
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bullpen that I think the Dodgers were trusting that, Okay,
this is going to be a better matchup for us
over you know, pushing a you know, our starting pitcher
into an extra inning. But now you know, if you
look at his postseason and totality, pasaki fastball has kind
of slowly been creeping back down. It was only averaging
ninety eight last night. Part of why Jake Bauers was
able to hit it for a double. Obviously his command
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was in a show, and you got to remember, like,
this is a guy who was out for five months
and it's come back and only made what six appearances
now seven outings out of the bullpen. So the range
of outcomes for him is probably a little bit wider
than the Dodgers were expecting it to be. So in
the moment last night, I understood but I think moving forward,
if you're in a similar situation again, you probably got
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to stick with the starter because you saw how dangerous
it can be if you if you put even a
little bit too much trust in the current bullpen.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
We'll talk about. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
So that being said, Yamamoto goes whomever goes, right, Yamamoto's
been there several times this year already, so you kind
of got to feel that he can go the distance
if need be, He's in there. Are you next time
letting him go?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I mean, it depends on the situation. So I think,
especially like going into tonight's game. You know, Dave Roberts
described the ninth inning pitching decision last night. It's fifty
to fifty and he went with the bullpen. I mean,
especially for tonight, when I imagine Kisosaki they would like
to stay away from. When Blake trining, you know, he'll
probably be online, but you know, now the Brewers have
down to look at him. If there's another fifty to
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fifty call to night going into the seventh or the eighth,
or maybe the ninth, I would imagine that the Dave
Roberts is going to be a little more willing to
ride his starter out, and to his credit, like every
game before last night's in this postseason, he has extended
the leash for the starter when there's ever been a doubt.
So I think that's going to be kind of what
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you see in the takeaway for him from what happened
last night.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
That being said, you talk about Yamamoto all right, not
as sharpest outing last time against the Phillies. How do
you think he fares against the Brewers? Jack?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, I mean, I think this is really for all
the Dodger pitchers. The big test of this series is
can you attack in the zone against the Milwaukee team
that doesn't chase very much and just kind of beat
them with your best stuff over the plate. That's what
Blake Snell did really well last night. He was getting
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ahead early in the count. He was throwing really really
good pitches in the zone that the Brewers couldn't do
anything with, and then when he got him to two strikes,
he did get him to expand and chase and got
the ten strikeouts. And that's going to be the plan
for everybody on the Dodger staff. I think Yamamoto in particular,
the one thing he has struggled with at times this year,
is getting a little too fine with his pitches, nibbling
(14:28):
a little bit too much around the corners. If you
do that against this Brewers team, you could walk some batters.
They will take those pitches, they will drive your pitch
count up, and they can get you out of the
game early. So I think for him, like everybody else
in this Dodger rotation, you got to establish in the
zone at the start of the count. You got to
trust that your stuff is too good for a team
that does not have the talent of hitters that a
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team like the Philadelphia Phillies had is going to be
able to do damage on it. Yeah, they might string
together a few singles, but you got to trust that
you can get guys out over the plate with your stuff,
and then if you do get him to two strikes,
that's when you can expand the zone, try to get
some change, try to get some strikeouts. I think Blake
Snell provided the perfect template last night, and if you,
as you know, Yamamoto can follow it, I think it
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could be really another strong outing for this Dodger rotation.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, given the fact that we're, you know, now the
Dodger rotation and people have talked about this, but they
have kind of played it perfectly that now everybody's healthy.
Even Glass now was dominant his last doubting the fact
that the Dodgers won last night. How how much of
a must win is this for Milwaukee today?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, I mean it's big, and I think it's a
must win for them because they're going to have obviously
their best pitcher on the mound and Freddy Peralta. And
if you come out of these two home games and
you lost a bullpen game in which your relievers pitched
pretty well, and then you lose a game in which
your staff ace can't get a win, that's what you
really behind the eight ball. Going back to La So,
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I will say, like the Dodgers overall, especially some of
their left handed hitters, do have pretty good numbers against
Freddy Peralta. I think he's the kind of guy that,
you know, if the Dodgers can put a good game
plan together and execute it, you know, can do some
damage against But at the same time, he pitched pretty
well against them this year and obviously had a really
really good season all the way around when you look
(16:19):
at his numbers, and was the National League wins leader
so this does feel kind of like I must win
for Milwaukee, and if you're the Dodgers, you know, it's
an opportunity to really take command of this series as
you go back to LA.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
All right, well, Jack, thanks for coming on as always,
thanks for the insight. We will chat again soon, all right,
thank you. Okay, you know what, I guess we need
to give you a chance to take a victory lamp.
So we'll do that next.
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Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, two hours show for us today, quick sprint, as
we are in the midst of the thick of the
Major League Baseball playoffs, so we are at the mercy
of the games, and so till two hours today. I
think we got a full show tomorrow and then we're
short at a different time on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So we'll keep you posted. Brod keep Jonah said something
yesterday and we had not mentioned it, but it's a
valid point when it comes to the playoffs. Why are
they starting your game at three? I wait here. I
don't know. I never wanted that. I don't understand six
o'clock eastern on a Thursday. There's Thursday Night football that
(17:56):
kicks at five twenty. Maybe they want to get a
jump on it, or eight twenty eastern. Maybe I want
to get a two hour jump on it. But I
think it's stupid now when you think about it. Why
are you playing at three in the afternoon in Los Ange?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, okay, so you don't want to go, you don't
want to I guess what, one hundred percent compete against
each other. But it's different times, different sports. You know,
started at a reasonable time. If you started at six
o'clock here on the West coast, it's still nine o'clock
on the East coast, people are still gonna watch at
nine o'clock. That's really prime time East Coast, right, So
(18:31):
why are you starting at three in the afternoon where
there's you know, it's just, first of all, it's difficult
for the home team to get fans to get to
the ballpark because it's during rush hour and work time
and all that stuff. But then you know, from a
player's perspective, you don't want to play at three o'clock.
You want to You want it to be headed into
(18:53):
the night time where the lights come on, and not
have to deal with all the shadows and all those
things that go on at three o'clock in the afternoon.
I don't care if it's Los Angeles or Kansas City.
It doesn't matter that three o'clock hour is not a
great time to play baseball. No, maybe we'll get some
sort of understanding on that down the road, because it's
just pretty stupid. We're gonna play three h eight on
(19:17):
a Thursday afternoon, yeah, the League Championship Service, Yeah we're not.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
We had to make up a double header here.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
You got a chance for the sun, the shadows to play,
the elements to play a real factor in a ball game.
It just it doesn't make sense play it at the
optimum time for both teams to djust to it. And
you know, you could argue, if you're in Milwaukee, oh,
that's not good for us either, because we're coming out
(19:46):
to the West Coast playing at three o'clock. Maybe the
Dodgers on you know, Dodgers obviously don't play a whole
lot of games at three, but in their mind, it's
like this is gonna be an advantage for the Dodgers
playing at three o'clock on the West Coast. They're used
to the time, they're used to the sun, they used
to where it is during the start of the game,
and so there's an advantage for the Dodgers to start
(20:08):
this game at that particular time. So it doesn't work
for both teams. It doesn't work for the fans, it
doesn't work for the team, then one for the players.
It's just an odd time. And again, pushing it back
to three hours and starting at nine on the East
Coast is not going to kill anybody in New York
or Boston or anywhere else on the East Coast to
stay up for two hours, three hours to eleven thirty
(20:30):
or twelve that watch the finish up a game.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, it makes zero sense. Okay, let's just do something
different here for a second. Go ahead and take your
victory lap fight on, go ahead, do it? Go ahead? Yeah? Ready?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah, what a great game, What a great atmosphere it did.
It was a throwback atmosphere at the Coliseum. I was
there at the game and to see it packed like
it was and people were ready for it. The tailgates
were what they were in the mid two thousands, and
everybody was excited and for USC to come out and
(21:06):
play like they did.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Was extremely impressive. You know, they.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
You know and say what you want. There are people
make excuses about the Illinois game, and you know, the
early start basically nine o'clock start for the West Coast
teams even though you know it's eleven o'clock start there.
But they got off to a slow start, made a
game of it, had had it, you know, had to
lead with two minutes to go, end up losing.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
That game to Illinois.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And Illinois played well, but then have a week off
knowing that Michigan's coming to town, and Michigan is Michigan
four and one coming in here to the coliseum, started
playing well, had a you know, very exciting quarterback, and
they're what you call fred a physical Big ten team
coming to town. And how would USC match up. Well,
(21:55):
let me tell you something. It was domination on both
sides of the ball for USC. That game was not
even close. It looked, you know close at one point,
but at the end of the day, US dominated on
both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
And if there's any doubt of whether.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Or not.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
USC or you know, the former Pac twelve can handle
or play physical football with the Big Ten. Please, let's
stop that narrative. The games have changed. This is not
nineteen seventy five where you're lining up running fifty times
a game and trying to run ball down people's throats.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
It is a you know, more of a finesse passing
game throughout college football. And yes, physicality matters, and it
does matter, especially defensively, in how you handle a certain team.
But the whole narrative that USC was not physical enough
to play in the Big Ten just it always baffled me. Well,
(22:52):
what they did show, and they didn't have to show it,
but they did show it is that if you want
to play physical football with us, we can play physical
football because they manhandled Michigan in the trenches, ran the
ball down their throat and stop their run. So let's
stop with the narrative, Fred, that that USC can't handle
(23:14):
physical football.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well, they sure could Saturday. They look like a different team.
They look like a different program, Rodney, can you at
least give me that. No, they look like a different program.
They don't look like a team, and I get it. Well,
they only lost by a couple of points. They're lost
this year. They don't look like a team hanging. They
look like a team that can win it. They look
like a different team.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
They are applying the pressure right as opposed to pressure
being on USC. They feel like a team that has
found their identity, and they are extremely balanced. They run
the football very well. And if you go back and
you look at the Lincoln Rally teams of Oklahoma and
even this first couple of years at USC, I know
(23:58):
Caleb had a lot to do with that, but they
are a balanced team. Even though it looks like they're
you know, the past happy, you know, wide open offense
where he came from, and and throwing it all over
a lot. But when they're good, they're running the football
as well. And USC was extremely balanced and has been
(24:18):
extremely balanced over the start of this season. And running
the football, I mean King Miller. Nobody even knew who
he was until Saturday night where he was forced to
go into the ballgame out of Calabasa's and he went crazy,
ran for you know, over one hundred and thirty yards
and just had a big night. I was so happy
for him. But yeah, they did. They looked like a
(24:42):
team that could be in contention and they've got the
quarterback Fred that has got the demeanor and has got
the capability. If you need him to throw for four
hundred yards, he can do it. They've got the firepower
with the receivers that they can throw it all over
the lot and beat you that way. But they also
can line up and run the football as well, and
(25:03):
that is the balance that you need, especially nowadays in
college football, to be able to be successful. But yeah,
I agree with you. They are definitely different than teams
of the past couple of years because they have talent
and they're effective running the football, throwing the football, and
more than anything, defensively they are much better. I think
(25:26):
that is the glaring difference with USC this year is
that defensively they're able to stop teams when they're when
teams are trying to run the football and even throw
the football. But defensively they're much better than they've been
the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, a quick two minute shout out to UCLA. Well,
I'm probably wrong. Now they've won two games. They've won
two games. That was impressive.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
The Penn State one was really impressive that you thought
maybe that's you know, it's an anomaly. Penn State came
off the emotional loss to Oregon and they were not
ready to play.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
They thought it was going to be a cake walk
over Ucla.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
They got shelf shocked in the moment, got behind and
didn't know how to recover from it. And Penn State
maybe not the team that everybody thought they were to
start the season. I think coupled with UCLA being ready
to play in the transition from Deshaun Foster to Skipper,
Tim Skipper and new Huisville callon plays helped them propel
(26:27):
them to win over Penn State. But then to go
back to Lancing East Lansing and beat Michigan State the
way they did, I mean not just beat them, but
beat them up. That was I got to give it
up too. That was extremely impressive for UCLA.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
What does that tell us Deshaun Foster couldn't coach. I mean,
they looked like a whole new program. With all due respect,
how did this happen? They were awful and you didn't
think they'd win a game. And now, look, I'm not
saying they're gonna win the rest. I'm not saying they're not,
but this is like an entirely different team now. In
(27:09):
a span of two weeks.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yeah, it's it's uh, it's always unfortunate for the guy
that got fired when a team kind of finds itself
and starts to play well and play good football on
both sides of the ball. But they look like a
team in disarrayed, they didn't know what they were doing.
And now they look like a pretty good football team.
I mean that went over Penn State and then to
(27:32):
go on the road like they did and dominate Michigan State.
It's impressed with UCLA at.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
You and they, I guess were one of the final
nails in the coffin for James Franklin. Mm hmm. That
was quick. That was fast. We're not putting up with that.
You're done. You can't lose to Ucla. Is that we
can't And then again you're finished. We can't even look
at you get out. I mean, that's kind of way.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
What fifty million dollar buyout, that's what That's what that
told us, that UCLA loss was we're willing to pay
fifty million dollars to let you go. Well, it was
also Northwestern back to back wings, twenty plus point favorite.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
That's really they probably would have lived with UCLA if
they would have run the table the rest of the way.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
But you can't lose to Northwestern. No, no, you can't.
That's tough. Tough for the program. Good for him, they
made fifty million dollars. No, he's gonna make it anyway, Fred, Yeah,
but no, he didn't have to do anything to get it.
Take a little time off, relax, settle in a bit.
Then if somebody wants off from a job at a
(28:39):
off set is fifty million. See, it's a win win
for everybody here. If you're UCLA giving him a call?
Is UCLA giving him a call? Say?
Speaker 5 (28:51):
If you are UCLA, are you giving him a call?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
They get it the call and collect.
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Speaker 1 (30:10):
Our weekly chat with a good friend, Jacob and Ronnie.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Jacob, how are you good afternoon?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
And gentlemen, how are you good?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Doing well? Jacob doing well? Doing well?
Speaker 3 (30:22):
After that nail Botterer last night with the Dodgers, man,
we're doing well.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
That was that was that was too close, you know,
loading up, you know, loading the bases. That was a
little too much. I don't know why they made it
so difficult, and so that was tough.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You know now, you're you're always you're You've been a
sports guy your whole life.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
You coach your kids.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I've had an opportunity to meet your kids and and
and your whole family. Man, and I love the fact
that you're you're heavily involved since you've been a partner
with the l a f C, the Lakers, is it
different when you watch games now as a partner as
opposed to where you were just a fan.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
You know, I think it's escalated for me, right because
you know as a fan, as you know Rodney, you know,
I'm a partner with the Lakers and you know the
Rams and la FC. But then you know, I see
you at the sc games and I'm a diehard fan,
I'm a I'm an alumni, I'm a you know, I'm
a Trojan for life. So for me, the whole sports
(31:34):
experience is very personal. I usually, you know, really get
involved with it, but now being a partner, I like
to go all in and now you feel like you
really literally and figuratively have a steake, Like right now,
you know, I just landed in Vegas. I'm here with
the Lakers for their preseason game, and you know, you
(31:56):
get to know everybody. You know Lawrence Tanner, you know
who's the announcer, you know at the stadium, you know
the executives, the people who work hard for all these teams.
You get a chance to get to know them and
really get to see what happens behind you know the scenes,
and then you get to enjoy what happens in front
even more because you realize how hard these guys work.
(32:17):
To put these teams together, and how hard it is
to be blessed enough to have these incredible teams. As
you know, LA sports fans, you know that we get
a chance to enjoy.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Hey, Jacob, I know tim is short for us today.
But with it raining, do you what should people do?
Do you have any tips for what to do in
a situation where it's raining.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Absolutely, I get gone through enough of them, and I've
had enough people call me and let me know why
they felt they were involved in an accident. And I
think the first thing I say during the rain do
not and a regular street, do not travel in the
lane's closest to the sidewalk. That's usually where all the
water piled up. There's a lot of inconsistencies on the road,
(33:00):
a lot of you know, unsafe roads, and that's where
the water goes. And usually when you see somebody hydro
flexing in a regular street, it's because they hit a
bump or they hit an area that's full of water.
Same thing when you're on the freeway. What I tell
everybody is stay away from the lane that is closest
to the center divider that separates the two directions, because
(33:25):
that's usually where a lot of the water gathers. Another
thing that's really important to be careful is you know
when you go into parking lots. I know a lot
of people don't talk about that, but a lot of
parking lots are very oily and when it gets wet,
it becomes super slippery, both for people who are walking.
I see a lot of people slipping and falling after
(33:46):
the rain in parking lots because of the oil, and
a lot of cars, you know, slippering and sliding around.
So those are important. And one of the things that
I really want people to know is that during the rain,
if you're keeping a two car distance with the car
in front of you, make it three. Make it three
car distance. And even more important than that, if you're
sitting at a light and the light turns and now
(34:09):
you have the green light, instead of immediately taking off,
count hit three and then take off. Because usually you know,
when it's not raining, if someone's trying to stop opposite
direction and they hit their brakes, usually the brakes will catch.
But when it's raining, they hit the brakes or they
try to go through it because they know if they
hit the brakes, they're probably gonna slide. They're going to
(34:31):
try to run around of red lights, and I think
those red lights cause a lot of you know, accident.
So those are just some of the tips that I
hope our listeners can take from this conversation so that
they are safe, because we haven't had rain, guys in
a while, and we know what happens in LA when
it rains. We all forget how to drive. But these
extra things are things that I see happening every day.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Jacob, great advice, Enjoy Vegas.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Thank you and God.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Akers all right, go Lakers, Katie, thank you for filling
in for Ronnie today. Great work. Kevin appreciate it as well.
So we have Freddie Peralta and Yoshiyamamoto on the mound
Game two of the LC issue. We'll hear it here
on the radio station beginning at five. We're back tomorrow
in our regular time noon to three. Rodney, see you tomorrow.
(35:17):
Absolutely
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